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- Sherpa [031811922] Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 15:11
The top 12 has been announced and here they are:
Males-
Blake Lewis
Chris Sligh
Chris Richardson
Brandon Rogers
Phil Stacey
Sanjaya Malakar
Females-
Melinda Doolittle
Stephanie Edwards
Lakisha Jones
Jordin Sparks
Gina Glocksen
Haley Scarnato
Recently cut:
Sabrina Sloan
Sundance Head
Jared Cotter
Antonella Barba
Previously cut:
AJ Tabaldo
Leslie Hunt
Nick Pedro
Alaina Alexander
Paul Kim
Amy Krebs
Nicole Tranquillo
Rudy Cardenas
The last thread has wandered a bit off topic for those who want to primarily discuss this season of idol. Hopefully we can continue our other discussion in that thread and keep this one talking about this year's group.
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Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 15:29
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"Vote for the worst" has already designated Sanjaya as their new target. I'll bet he survives a few more weeks.
Haley, Phil, and Brandon would seem to be the most vulnerable. But if the top women siphon off too many votes, then just about anything could happen at the bottom.
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Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 17:03
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Sanjaya should have been their pick from the beginning. The kid is a good singer, but is a bit young, too timid, and has turned in some terrible idol performances. I can see him sneaking into the top 8 at best, because he has a young fanbase already, but no further.
I peek at the VFTW forums at times too. They are calling it a victory that "they" got Sundance this far...lol. I think this week proves that their vote doesn't play a role in the results. Sundance had a lot of fans and even with the VFTW crowd, they couldn't raise enough votes. I don't want to keep ranting about that site, but they are like misguided children. A bunch of individuals who refuse to be sheep in today's society, so they become sheep for that site? Reminds me of the whole Goth attraction. They try so hard to be different, they end up being like all the other "different" people.
I keep my eye on the dialidol results as well, but they haven't been a lot of help this year. I do think we will see 3 of the 4 bottom males (from my list above) gone in the next four weeks.
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Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 00:07
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Jared Cotter reminded me of the Carlton Banks character on Fresh Prince of Bel Air. I kept waiting to see him to the Carlton dance.
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Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 00:12
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Sanjaya: remember the Hawaiian girl a couple years ago who stayed longer than she should have? With Sanjaya's Hawaiian roots, that might help him too. Just can't believe that tiny little state can make much of a difference. Obviously he's also getting the chick votes and the state of Washington vote and probably others who identify with his racial status, etc. I really like the guy, but he should have been gone already because he is outclassed. That goes a long way to his short-comings when only four guys should even be in the top 12.
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Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 00:13
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Simon Cowell has gone on record to state that if Sanjaya wins American Idol, he'll quit the show! Wonder how that'll draw in the mass callers. LOL
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Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 01:27
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Jared Cotter reminded me of the Carlton Banks character on Fresh Prince of Bel Air. I kept waiting to see him to the Carlton dance.
I read that somewhere else and kept cracking up while he was singing this week. Same thing happened last year with the Bucky air-guitar stuff.
Simon Cowell has gone on record to state that if Sanjaya wins American Idol, he'll quit the show! Wonder how that'll draw in the mass callers.
I will google for it, but toss in a link if you got it. The show wouldn't be nearly as good as it is without Simon. Sometimes he is overly rude, but for the most part I agree with what he's telling these kids.
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Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 11:08
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LOL TB!!! You actually read that somewhere?!?! That's hilarious. My wife and I thought it was just us seeing it in him. We didn't know his name so we just referred to him as Carlton and guys like beat-boxer and male backup singer, etc. Now we are starting to know the names.
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Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 11:40
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My musical taste is like nobody else's. I watched for the first time last week and liked Jared and Blake among the men and Stephanie and Melinda among the women. I would agree with the genral consensus that the top 8 women are at least as good as the top 4 men.
Note: I love anyone who reminds me even vaguely of Aretha Franklin, who can belt out gospel and pop.
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Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 12:31
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Sanjaya's success is almost exclusively a function of the voting format. When you can only vote for a constestant and not against one, then you get unusual results when the field is still large. Anyone who stands out for any reason - good, bad, or quirky, - will tend to outpace the ones in the middle of the pack who aren't good enough to get the "true" votes nor bad enough to get the other votes. It's happened every year.
So I'd expect Sanjaya to continue to advance for a few more weeks, while other less remarkable contestants disappear. At some point, it'll take a larger proportion of the total votes to move on, and that's when he'll drop out. But for the time being, it probably only requires getting 5-6% of the total votes to survive, and that's not a stiff hurdle for someone with his growing notoriety.
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Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 12:32
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Let's face it: American Idol without Simon is nothing. Paula grows on you; she's getting willing to be more critical in a polite way; she handled herself well on the Degeneres show. Randy is Mr Moderate, the guy in the middle, but always reminding you that he has connections to the business.
Seems like a perfect team. Anyone have any ideas for a 4th character/panelist?
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Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 12:51
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I really have little interest in this type of music, but I find the show pretty interesting. I was suprised to see Sanjaya make it through. He has very little talent, and I suspect millions of young girls flooded the phone lines for him based on his looks.
On the other hand if Sundance gets a break I can certainly see him fronting a pretty good blues band. It might be a good idea for him to learn the guitar. He has loads of potential.
Overall unless disaster strikes Melinda will win this competition in a close call over Lakisha. Both are very good.
No question about it Simon is the show. The only thing Randy ever offer is, "It's a bit pitchy dog" & Paula is a complete twit, who must be envious of every contestant on the show becasue they are better than she ever was.
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Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 13:22
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Other Randy criticisms:
"I dunno Dude, that didn't do it for me, ya know what I'm sayin?"
"You gotta gotta bring it every week, dog/dude"
"Wow,... that was kinda wierd for me..."
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ID: 52621719
Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 13:36
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An overused Simonism in two variations:
"I listened to you [boo]...and, I have to say, it is no better than what I would hear from a lounge/hotel/motel singer."[booooo]
"I listened to you [boo]...and, I have to say, it is no better than what I would hear in a karaoke bar."[booooo]
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Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 13:40
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Other Randisms...
"Now that was HOT!"
"it doesn't have the YO factor"
"You've officially joined the Dawg Pound"
He also likes to try and copy many things Simon has said like, "sounded like a hotel act" or one of the other Simonisms.
Paula almost always tries to find the good in things even when she has said a couple more critical things this year (one of her criticisms).
One of Randy's big criticisms is that no one knows him so he's always talking about being the bass player from Journey or who he knows or that he produces and name drops.
Simon is a narcisistic boob, but he's probably dead-on 80% of the time. Once in awhile I'll think he totally missed the mark on that one or he'll dampen down a very good performance saying it was ok. He really tries to influence the outcome so the voters will vote along with his line of thinking.
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Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 13:46
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if Sanjaya wins, Simon won't be the only one to quit the show. it would literally expose the show's biggest faults, and really go a long way toward that whole "best singer didn't win" thing.
he's not even close to the best singer. of course, nearly every year the best singer has some bumps in the road - going all the way back the first season when Tamarya Grey got bumped off.
but as long as good singer wins, you can enjoy the show. but, if a singer that's probably not even in the top 10 singers, quality-wise, wins, then you have a serious fly in the ointment.
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Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 14:10
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Sanjaya has no chance to win because he can't sing. But if he had a decent voice but wasn't one of the top 3, then, sure, he'd have a chance to win. In the end, it's not just a singing contest, but a popularity contest. You have to stand out and be different so you get your votes while the others get their similar votes split. Kind of like the Abraham Lincoln effect. But in the end, it's still mano a mano and as we all know that vote will be close no matter who's in it.
My favorite Idol ever is Kelley Clarkson. Worst is Fantasia by a mile. I always liked Carrie Underwood and would have to say she's my second favorite. I think Ruben and Taylor were deserving but wouldn't have beaten either Clarkson or Underwood if they went head to head. Heck Latoya London, Tamyra Gray, Jennifer Hudson and Chris Daughtry should even be thrown into the mix IMM, but oh well. When they can't even make it to the Finals, then what can you do?
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ID: 342281012
Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 14:23
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Jennifer Hudson and Chris Daughtry
these two have shown how to use AI to your advantage, even if you don't win. the bottom line is getting on the radar, then proving you belong there. between the Oscars and the #1 albums, these two have clearly proven to be among the best AI Alums ever.
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Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 14:24
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My worst Idol is Fantasia by a mile.
Wow Ref, we agree on something. That IMO, was the worst year of AI. The good people were getting voted off, and the judges were getting pissed. They trashed everyone but Fantasia, and that had an impact on the voting. It was more the Simon, Randy and Paula Idol than American Idol.
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ID: 342281012
Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 14:33
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the thing about Fantasia, is, that to this day, she still has the greatest single performance ever on American Idol, when she did "Summertime". that one performance probably won the season for her.
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Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 15:35
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Yeah and she sang it 2 or 3 times LOL. Much like McPhee sang Over the Rainbow and Cherry Tree or whatever that song is a couple times each.
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Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 16:04
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I would love to see a smilar show featuring bands instead of individuals. Blues, Rock, Metal, Alternative, Country, Jazz, Funk, Hip Hop, R & B....All types. I guess it would be a talent show of sorts. It could be very interesting.
The logistics would be difficut but it could be done.
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Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 17:36
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He really tries to influence the outcome so the voters will vote along with his line of thinking.
Isnt that the whole purpose of having judges?
I usually state my opinion to my wife before the judges speak and I am ususally in agreement with Simon 90% of the time.
He gives props when it is deserved and rips them when they need to be.
"That was a complete and utter mess".
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Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 18:37
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I am with you Weykool, 90% sounds about right. Sometimes he's a lot harsher than I would be, but at least he doesn't tell everyone it's pitchy.
"I dunno Dude, that didn't do it for me, ya know what I'm sayin?" No, Randy I don't know what you are saying. I thought I did at first, but then you kept babbling on and now I am confused. Can you break it down a little more for me?
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Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 02:00
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LMAO!!!
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ID: 38522293
Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 17:18
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Ref (re: 4),
Comparing Jasmine Trias' success to Sanjaya's success on the show is far stretch. First of all, Jasmine was obviously more talented. And second, living in Hawaii, i can tell you the entire state was behind Jasmine in season 3...it was almost sick how popular she was. As far as Sanjaya's roots in Hawaii, barely anyone knows/cares about it. Hawaii has nothing to do with Sanjaya staying in.
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Sun, Mar 11, 2007, 21:11
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R, I was behind Jasmine too!!! She can sing.
Sanjaya has mentioned on the show about him living in Hawaii and even did the hula thing that was shown a couple times this week. Can't hurt him anyhow. Thanks for the local feedbck though, I would have thought he was more popular than that--esp with his large vote totals he's getting with little talent.
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Tue, Mar 13, 2007, 23:10
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I thought the judges were a little harsher tonight than was necessary. I didn't agree with them on several performances. One week they say to make a song your own and this week they killed Sligh and roughed-up Blake for doing it. The only really horrible performance was Brandon Rogers. Sanjaya Malakar was bad, but it was his best week yet and he actually sang a few notes without whispering.
For me this is how they were:
Very Good - Lakisha Jones, Jordin Sparks, Melinda Doolittle, and Phil Stacey
Good - Stephanie Edwards, Gina Glocksen, and Chris Sligh (Vocals were very good, song was okay)
Okay - Blake Lewis (like what he did with the song, but vocals were weak), Haley Scarnato, and Chris Richardson
Not Good - Sanjaya Malakar & Brandon Rogers
If I was a betting man, I would place money on Brandon leaving. I was a little disappointed that Stephanie didn't do something great and the judges nailed it in their critique of her. Jordin has silently become one of my favorites. I still have the last couple of weeks female performances recorded and she hasn't sang a song that I didn't love hearing her sing. I like what Gina is doing as well. Melinda and Lakisha are still going to be tough to beat, though because neither has yet had a bad performance and I really don't see it happening. I was glad to see the judges say something nice to Haley even though I expected them to kill her. I thought her knees were going to buckle.
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Tue, Mar 13, 2007, 23:52
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Havent heard all the singers yet but Sanjaya is easily #12 for me.
How can you take a great song like that and butcher it?
Just aweful.
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Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 00:22
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Forget his singing; Sanjaya's hair tonight was just bizarre. The fact that 2 judges complimented his hair just shows how little good there is to say about this kid. I get the feeling he wishes he'd be voted off so he could stop living this nightmare. Clearly he is destined to join the Professional Hula Tour, not to be a singer.
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Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 09:34
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Asking anyone to cover a Dianna Ross tune makes things difficult, espically for the guys. In my opinion none of them did it very well. Some were just worse than others.
To me it sounded like Blake covered the Vinalla Fudge rendition of "You keep me hangin on". I actually liked it.
I agree Sanjaya is the worst of the lot. It's a joke that he's still there.
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Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 11:25
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Kiki is an absolute standout IMO...I do like Melinda as well.
Please, please let Sanjaya go...please! I just can't stand to watch or hear him anymore!
Blake & Chris R are the best of the guys. Hated Phil last night.
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Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 20:48
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Why do I get this bad feeling that Sanjaya has at least two more songs to sing?
Maybe we will get lucky and he will Hula for one of them and not try to sing.
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Wed, Mar 14, 2007, 23:29
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I think next week will be very interesting because the producers will do anything they can to get Sanjaya booted, even if it means "unfortunate mic malfunction". If he survives next week, he'll be in the top 10 and therefore will be on the Idol tour.
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Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 00:22
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The guys are gonna drop like flies...just hope Sanjaya is next week. I think he was pretty surprised that he didn't go this week.
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Thu, Mar 15, 2007, 00:32
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At least Sanjaya was bottom 3.
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Tue, Mar 20, 2007, 22:10
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I had a flashback to Ace singing We Will Rock You when Sanjaya was singing tonight. Not comparing them vocally, just a spazzed out performance that had me shaking my head. Gina and Stephanie weren't so great tonight, but neither was Haley. Lakisha was okay. Jordin and Melinda were both very good. Other than Sanjaya, I thought all the males did a pretty good job. Really enjoyed Blake and Sligh, while Stacey and Richardson were okay.
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Tue, Mar 20, 2007, 22:15
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As an intermittent viewer, I was really glad I watched tonight because the theme, The British Invasion, were of the period I like a lot. Some good songs attempted tonight, with mixed results..
The best performer was...Lulu, known to me mostly for the oldie classic To Sir With Love. She looks great and her songs coaching were those of someone who realizes that songs are the musical expression of words and thoughts.
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the best performance -- 9+ -- was by Jordan Sparks, who chose one of the toughest songs for range, I Who Have Nothing, and sang it brilliantly. Simon showed one of his weaknesses as a judge when he remarked that while the song was well sung, it made him "feel like jumping off a bridge" and was "gloomy". Some lyrics are dark, and meant to be sung that way. Not all songs are written to be sung while jumping spastically around the stage or strutting, a la Haley Scarnato, like a hooker seeking a client. Jordan's stage presence, demeanour and movements were appropriate to the song, which usually isn't the case with certain types of lyrics on AI.
The second best performance -- 9 -- was by LaKisha with Diamonds Are Forever. Not a great song choice in that it's irretrievably associated with the past, with the Bond movie, and the performance was sure to be criticized as not contemporary. But it was superbly sung; at times, her singing gave me chills. Simon found it and Lakisha's dress too old-fashioned, and that's one of the things about the show, it's not looking for a good performance but someone who can sell music today. I guess Chris Slye was, well below the top 2, but the next best, even though his facial expressions, demeanour, and movement were completely incompatible with the lyrics of She's Not There. He looked like he was having a good time. The lyrics are the expressions of a person who is not having a good time, but is anguished, and strutting through the audience bearing an idiotic grin while singing that song makes no sense . Chris actually realized that, saying to Simon, "The song is dark" -- but he didn't sing it that way. The demands of the format, I guess -- but you have to recognize them when choosing a song. Melinda was next best I guess.
Sanjaya seemed to have no singing talent. 5-. However, the worst performance was not by Sanjaya, but Gina's Paint It Black. Lulu should have physically stopped her from attempting to sing it. The lyrics of the songs are one of the Stones' best, a great musical embodiment of raw black depression. Her style of singing and movement were completely incompatible with the lyrics. You can't sing that song while running and jumping happily around the stage in a standard way. Even worse than a person who has no voice singing is a person who doesn't seem to understand the song being sung. As Simon said, "There were complete moments of torture in that performance..." Phil Stacey's rice-pudding like Tobacco Road was the next worst.
Stephanie, Melinda, Haley, Blake, and Chris R. gave indistinguishable, OK performances.
Toral
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Tue, Mar 20, 2007, 23:26
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Nice review, Toral. I certainly agree with everything from your first two paragraphs and most of your final paragraph. Gina was bad, Phil was weird, and Sanjaya was horrible. I am not at home and can't watch it again to confirm my initial thoughts, but all I can recall is him jumping around screaming out the same two notes and missing on the third note of a simple song. Would love to read your recaps weekly, btw.
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Tue, Mar 20, 2007, 23:55
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Agreed with most of your thoughts, Toral. When I first saw Haley, my first thought was..."coming to a streetcorner near you"...;) She wasn't too bad tonight. We've definitely seen her do worse. But if she wants to continue to flaunt it, I'll watch it. ;)
Meanwhile, I thought this was certainly Stephanie's worst performance. She didn't sound confident and frankly I thought she might have been under the weather. Her usual solid high notes were missing but I tell you what...even when she gets slammed by the judges, it looks as if she shrugs it off well.
Unlike Gina....ugh! Apparently she lives and breathes Simon's comments. Her singing was not believable tonight and I think she may slip into the bottom three. But then again this IS a popularity contest not just a singing contest, so who knows.
Frankly, we all know who should go home; but will he? I doubt it.
Overall, I thought the show was all-around pretty good. Didn't think LaKisha was all that great but she doesn't have to be at this point. The future Idol, Miss Dolittle was solid but I was really pleased to hear Chris Sligh raising his game. 'Bout time.
Jordin is impressing me more week by week so I suspect it'll probably come down to a Melinda-LaKisha-Jordin trifecta. The boys (outside of Sanjaya and Phil) were pretty good but none of them have a chance at winning this competition.
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Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 01:22
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What is going on here?
No love from James Bond for a Bond song?
I also thought Lakesha was "middle of the road".
But that may work to her advantage as sometimes you cant measure how good someone
is unless you can compare it to a "bad" performance.
There are no peaks without valleys.
Of course bad for Lakesha is the same as good for the other contestants.
When I was listening to Sanjaya the only thing I could think of was that he was tired
of all the criticizm and decided to tank it so he would get voted off.
That was just pathetic.
Certainly his worst performance (a difficult task to accomplish) and quite possibly
the worst perfomance ever from a top 12 contestant.
The only way he could have done worse would have been for him to perform hula motions
to the Monkey's "Theme from The Monkees".
I Like Glocksen but tonight was not very good at all.
Bottom 3 should be:
Sanjaya/Gina/Phil
With Sanjaya going home to keep him off the tour.
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Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 01:25
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My top 3 was Melinda, Jordin and Blake. My worst three was Sanjaya, Stephanie and Gina. Phil could replace one of them in the bottom three but I liked him better than those this week. No one is even remotely close to being as bad as Sanjaya. Hopefully he will get voted off so the other three have another chance as I think all of them have potential of staying 3 or 4 more weeks.
Haley was hot. And she actually sang well too. It was a pretty good show all in all. I htink Haley is doing the right thing. She had better get the sex-appeal vote and flirt as her voice can't match what the top 3 women can do.
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Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 10:23
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For the record I think Sanjaya sucks. He will not be voted off this week.
Did anyone see the emotion pouring out of that young girl last night? Remind you of anything? Elvis, The Beatles, Micheal Jackson perhaps. Granted Sanjaya can't sing a lick, but he has millions of young teeny bopper, jr high girls voting for him. It's almost a mini version of the Ole "Kiss Army". Could Kiss actually sing or play insturments? Not really, but they looked cool and captivated a certain type of fan.
He's a great (anti fan) draw. Many will tune in tonight just to see him get the boot. It's become a little sub story within the show, and if Idol can keep this bit of suspense going a little longer it means higher ratings.
IMHO Sanjaya was not the worst singer last night. Phil was off the chart horrilbe. His appearance, vocals, lack of voice range, and excitement generated was not worthy of landing him a job with a good bar band.
Gina was almost as bad and compeltely butchered "Paint It Black". Horrible absolutely horrible.
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Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 12:38
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Gina...agreed horrid as was Phil. Sanjaya - it goes without saying.
My favs from last night were Jordan (what a voice for 17 yrs old!) and Blake. Just gotta love him - so different and very marketable.
Does anyone else think the crying girl needs to get some therapy? There's a kid that's going to grow up with some big self esteem problems.
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ID: 402581719
Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 12:54
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I watched the show with my Mom last night. It was her first time watching. She asked me if the girl was from the Make a Wish Foundation or something similar and I didn't know. Maybe I will google to find out. If so, I imagine the show meant quite a bit for her.
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ID: 132162015
Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 13:31
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Evidently you guys have never seen film from years ago when Elvis and The Beatles preformed. Crying, screaming, girls actually fainting...ect. How's this any different?
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Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 15:42
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I was also crying when Sanjaya sang, for different reasons obiviously.
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Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 19:33
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RE: 46 - um, yes, I am of that era actually. Went to several concerts (none of the Beatles unfortunately) and don't remember ever shedding a single tear or fainting.
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Wed, Mar 21, 2007, 19:57
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Re: 47 LMAO!!!
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ID: 3810431417
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 20:27
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Oh Sweet Bleeding Jesus...somebody please vote Sanjaya off.
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ID: 132162015
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 20:39
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So far 0-2 with the Sting songs tonight.
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ID: 372412215
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 22:24
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Am I crazy, or was Jordin Sparks terrible?
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Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Tue, Mar 27, 2007, 23:26
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You're crazy. =)
I want to say that the band wasn't overpowering her voice like it does with many of the other singers, but the mix wasn't the best and it sounded like her mic was having problems. It wasn't her best vocal (now I sound like Randy), but I enjoyed her performance. She has shown versatility every single week and she is one of my two favorites. I like that she is having fun and mixing it up. She could play it safe like Melinda and Lakisha and just belt out the same songs every week.
This isn't going to be popular, but I am very bored with Lakisha and Melinda. They sound the same to me every single week. Not that they sound similar, but that both of them sing the same way every week. Melinda had one week where she sang the valentine song, but other than that it is the same stuff over and over again. Sure, Melinda has the most talented voice, but I wouldn't buy an album from any singer that has 10 similar songs on it.
I thought Phil Stacey was the best (vocally) of the night. TF says 0-2 for Police songs, but he sounded pretty good as a Sting impersonator with Every Breath You Take. I am really liking Gina too. Neither will win this thing, but she my other favorite.
I like Chris Sligh, but am not connecting with him when he sings. Wonder if it's nerves? His vocals weren't great and once again he is told by the judges that he is off the beat with the band.
Blake was boring and sang a safe song that didn't expose his lack of range. Don't get me wrong, I liked the song and most weeks find him entertaining. Even last week I was entertained and he couldn't hit a high note.
Richardson and Haley were boring too. I think my theme for this week will be zero versatility because I can say the same things about these two. They sound the same to me each week. Richardson is also weak vocally and has one sound AND it comes out his nose. Haley has the same look on her face every week. I love the song True Colors and she sang it like she memorized a speach.
Sanjaya forgot his words, mumbled through others, and like every other time he's sang, his voice waivers from weak to strong and his pitch is off. He also looked goofy. They are going to rethink who they let through hollywood next season because I refuse to go see the concert tour knowing he will be in it.
I don't even care who goes home as long as it isn't Jordin or Gina. I know it won't be Blake or Melinda. Lakisha is going to end up going home sooner than expected at some point, but probably not this week. Stacey should be safe.
I'll say Haley and Sanjaya bottom two and keep my fingers crossed that this is Sanjaya's last week.
LOL at this website: Style Sanjaya's Hair
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Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 00:37
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TB:
Excellent recap.
Normally I agree with you about 90% but this week it is up to about 95%.
Jordin did well but the song is difficult to make it sound good.
It was good but not spectacular.
Liked Gina....nice rebound after tanking the stones song.
I think Melinda did very well.....I would not criticiz her for going with her strengths every week.
WHEN....she gets the record deal she can change it up and make the album interesting.
Lakesha, Big Chris, Little Chris, Phil, Blake, and Haley were all decent but nowhere close to spectacular.
Then then there is our favorite.....I guess someone told him that the guys had no chance at winning so he thought he would get in touch with his femine side.
These people who are voting for him have no heart.
He is just a teenager and week after week he is required to embarrass himself in front of millions of veiwers.
This is going to ruin the rest of his life...have some pitty on the lad and dont make him sing another week.
I made the comment in another forum that each week they get an allowance to buy new clothes for the next show.
Lakesha looks like she is shopping at the Goodwill and secretly pocketing the rest.
This week it looked like she let Melinda in on her little secret.
Both of the looked aweful.
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Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 06:36
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I think Melinda did very well.....I would not criticiz her for going with her strengths every week.
WHEN....she gets the record deal she can change it up and make the album interesting.
not the first album.
depending on where she finishes, she's committed to her contract with the producers of AI, and traditions has shown that they stick with the formula that made the singers' shine on the show.
Kelly Clarkson declined to do a second album with the same team, and her star power really shone through. he first album was ok, but nothing out of the ordinary. her second album - which she had a much larger hand in creating - was a huge success, selling twice as many records, and musically, being much better.
that's why i think the second album is so important to those who do well on AI.
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ID: 01584348
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 10:56
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This CNN article claims Sanjaya has a strong local fan base.
Nothing against the kid, but I hope this is it for him. I also hope that the 'top 10 Idols' tour that my wife and I take our daughter to every year has Stephanie replacing Sanjaya.
I like Gina and hope she keeps in her zone with rock numbers. I was glad Blake did not do his trademark 'beat box' stuff this week. I was a Chris fan early on, but have not been too impressed with his last few outings.
This years group has alot of talented performers, with Melinda one of the frontrunners, but there is no one from this group that to me really seems to have that potential star quality.
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ID: 372412215
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 11:32
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From post 54
This isn't going to be popular, but I am very bored with Lakisha and Melinda. They sound the same to me every single week.
I totally agree with you. One of these two will not make it past week 6. Every year, someone who is favored gets the boot around that week, and I think it is pretty much for the reason you stated. They don't stand out, they just do the same thing for weeks, and it gets boring.
If you want to win this thing, now is the time to start rising. Call me crazy, but Phil Stacey, could he be bringing it? Simon said that it was the first week he seemed to be trying. He did very well. I like Blake, I hope he wins. But he has got to change it up. Last night he sang a Cure song, covered by 311. He could get boring too if he doesn't watch it. I hate to say it, but I think Sanjaya is in for a while. Last night, he wasn't bad. Haley or Side show Bob is gone tonight.
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ID: 3810431417
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 13:11
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The consensus at the gym this morning (I hate to say it), is that Sanjaya just might make it to the final 3 or 2 because of the "little girl" vote. There were a few that said he would win. :shuddering:
If this comes to pass I think the show will slide into obscurity.
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ID: 29082512
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 14:18
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i've been saying that if he's made it this far, Sanjaya could make the final 3.
last year, little Chris (was that his name?) was a good example of going further than you should have. Sanjaya may be taking it to a whole new level...
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ID: 01584348
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 14:43
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I guess we'll know how the votes for Sanjaya stack up to the others when they are down to 9 next week. AI will do their traditional results show move where they beak them into 3 groups - and then later on tell us which one was top3 middle3 and bottom3.
For the record, SJ is not getting all the 'litle girl vote'. My 8 year old daughter did not call in and vote for Sanjaya last night. She called for Blake, Melinda, and Lakisah. (But then again, what does she know: The night before on Dancing with the Stars she called in 5 times for Billy Rae Cyrus aka Hannah Montana's dad who was totally out classed by the rest of the field)
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ID: 25102616
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 16:59
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VFTW & Howard Stern
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ID: 132162015
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 21:31
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Good bye Chris. Well that was no big suprise.
Sanjaya stays and continues to make the show a complete farce.
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ID: 59943416
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 23:05
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i wasn't able to watch this week, but Chris S being eliminated is a total shocker to me. was he that awful? i really thought he was one of the top males.
and yea, at this point, Sanjaya being in the contest is really hurting the credability of the show.
maybe he's a plant, and all along he was put there to see just how far someone awful could go, with the right amount of sympathy.
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ID: 132162015
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 23:48
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I did'nt think Chris was the worst but he did deserve to be in the bottom 3.
I thought the faux rock chick, Gina might get cut loose this week.
IMHO there is no real standout this season. They all seem to be just pretty good. I would just love to see Lakesha come out and cover a balsy bules tune. Something along the lines of Ko Ko Taylor's rendition of Wang Dang Doodle. She could just rock the house.
Mabye somebody will pump up the volume next week?
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ID: 031811922
Wed, Mar 28, 2007, 23:51
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I didn't think Chris was awful, but his last three performances all had mistakes and in this one he stood on stage after the judges comments and admitted he goofed up. That's a big no-no.
Well, my original top 8 is shot to hell. First Sabrina Sloan doesn't even make the top twelve, then Stephanie Edwards is cut last week and now Chris Sligh is gone. I didn't expect Haley, Phil, and Sanjaya to make it this far. I didn't have Sligh or Sabrina in my top 6, but am still a bit annoyed that I'm listening to Haley sing (and Sanjaya) while Stephanie is gone.
Each week as Sanjaya stays and someone's favorite goes home, I think we see more people voting for other contestants somehow blaming him for their favorite going home. For the most part, he is only the reason they are going home one week earlier than they should. I said earlier that he doesn't make the top 8 and realize that I am probably wrong. There is no way he makes top 5 and he never signs a recording contract.
My son watched last night's show with me tonight. When Phil sang (I'll be watching you) I heard him mutter under his breathe, "Of course you will with those big eyes." Then he went on to compare Blake with Barney aka Neil Harris from How I Met Your Mother. He likes Blake but thinks there are some similarities. He was also reminded of the Halloween episode from How I Met Your Mother, where Alyson Hannigan dressed up like a parrot, when he saw Sanjaya's haircut.
Rewatching Jordan I realized that it was during the chorus of the song where the band disappeared and made her performance seem awkward. I also like Blake more than I thought I did and Richardson wasn't as bad as I originally thought. When he puts it out there he sounds okay.
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ID: 539581218
Thu, Mar 29, 2007, 16:03
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I like Blake, but didn't care for the song too well this week. Loved last week's song.
Haley hurt me to listen to it. Chris has a decnt voice but you need more than vocals. If you cna't find the beat, well I guess that means you're a beat off? Ok anyhow, it should have been sanjaya, haley and Chris in the bottom three. Obvioulsy, S should hae went home. But knowing full-well that he wasn't, I have no issue with Chris going home. Haley has to show her stuff to make it longer. The voice alone is just not enough. Well I guess it WAS JUST enough this week.
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ID: 031811922
Wed, Apr 04, 2007, 01:09
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Wanna know how much I enjoyed tonight's show? I deleted it immediately after watching it and I forgot to come in here and post about it until this very minute. I am not a big fan of this genre of music and it was like taking 10 steps back after the previous weeks. Tony Bennett seemed grumpy when anyone would want to change any of the songs. I am not even going to watch most of tomorrow's result's show. Just fast forward to the final 5 minutes and see who goes home.
Everyone sounded okay to me (nobody was great)except for these two:
2) Phil Stacey. He seemed to be gaining momentum the last couple of weeks so maybe he has a stronger fan base, but I was tempted to cover my ears during most of his performance.
1) Sanjaya. He actually said that he wanted to prove tonight that he could sing. We were all left waiting. Simon shouldn't have been so obvious during his comments. He should have just said great things, while pointing out his flaws and then proclaimed he would be the next champ. Usually that's the perfect combo to getting someone booted.
Going home? Even though Lakisha sang last and that usually seems like a safe spot, I kept thinking she sounded quite average. She's my bet to leave earlier than initially projected so it's as good a guess as anyone for this week.
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ID: 41750315
Wed, Apr 04, 2007, 08:52
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Melinda was good.
Sanjaya was horrible.
Everyone else was forgetabble.
My guess is Sanjaya makes it to #7 or #6 and then gets voted off when the votes get consolidated.
His problem is....the more he tries.....the fewer votes he will get from Stern/VFTW.com
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ID: 3810431417
Wed, Apr 04, 2007, 16:30
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I love Tony Bennett and thoroughly enjoyed last night (well except for a few).
Blake and Chris were fantastic. Both did exactly what the song required and they nailed it.
Lakisha was great as usual; Melinda super.
My pick for bottom three:
Phil
Haley
Sanjaya (please!)
I think its a pretty good bet that Haley will go home this week.
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ID: 539581218
Wed, Apr 04, 2007, 17:29
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Sanjaya isn't going anywhere yet. I think Haley is history. Gina may be in the bottom three as well.
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ID: 132162015
Wed, Apr 04, 2007, 18:12
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bottom three:
Phil
Haley
Gina
Out this week: Haley. She's the only one of the group that actually looks like a "Star".
IMHO Lakisha has sunk to #3 behind, Jordin and Melina in that order. The only guy with any kind of shot is Blake and that would be a MAJOR upset.
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ID: 539581218
Wed, Apr 04, 2007, 23:23
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Gina did not deserve to go out this week. There were AT LEAST two worse and probably more.
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ID: 031811922
Thu, Apr 05, 2007, 00:03
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I was a little bummed to see her go. I think we all knew she wasn't one of the better female singers, but I liked her personality and looked forward to hearing her sing each week.
Seems screwed up that Haley, Phil, and Sanjaya are still in the competition while Gina, Chris Sligh, and Stephanie are all already gone.
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ID: 132162015
Thu, Apr 05, 2007, 08:59
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It reminds me why fans should'nt vote for all star teams.
It's actually a popularity contest, not a singing competition.
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Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Thu, Apr 05, 2007, 09:07
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What TF said.
We actually had the discussion about stopping watching the show.
They are going to need to do something to fix it in the future.
Or, maybe they don't care where the fan base comes from, as long as they have a fan base.
Cliff
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ID: 372412215
Thu, Apr 05, 2007, 10:06
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GL, you have it exactly right. They just want a fan base. Look, we are talking about the show, and that is what they want, the buzz. But, I get the feeling that the only good thing about the show is getting tired, Simon. I don't know about the rest of you, but I couldn't care less about what Paula and Randy have to say, the show is Simon. If the show continues the way it is going, he might just leave.
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ID: 01584348
Thu, Apr 05, 2007, 10:19
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[76] [77] Agreed. It is all about identifying the biggest fan base, not necessarily finding the best singer. Remember, the ultimate goal of American Idol is to sell records for those artists that the producers sign after the series concludes. (they must sign the winner, but have options of first refusal on everyone else). What better way to determine that than by seeing 'what the people want' through fan voting. The public phone vote is a better way to determine what CD's are going to sell and what songs will be purchased for download than some panel of experts or going to a grading system for eliminations.
The judges job was to identify the top 12 male and female performers that make it to the performance part of the competition, after that all they can do is their tv schtick and make comments after performances.
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ID: 539581218
Thu, Apr 05, 2007, 15:32
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JeffG that is precisely it.
However, as I posted here, the judges didn't get the top 24 right. Antonella didn't belong and neither did Sanjaya or Sundance. When Sanjaya auditioned, I liked him. But when he went to Hollywood, he wasn't very good and was surprised to see him make the show. So the judges have to understand that whoever they put in the top 24, its now out of their hands and the best may not win and the worst could conceivably win.
The problem is with the VFTW and Stern telling their constituents to vote for this guy, it's underminding the fan base. How many records would Sanjaya sell!? There is no way AI wants him to win. They were so glad to get rid of Antonella that I thought to myself. "I wondered if they rigged it to get her out?"
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ID: 02856618
Fri, Apr 06, 2007, 11:22
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I would say it's a fair bet that Sanjaya will sell as many records as anyone on Idol this year. Remember, the top selling album of 2006 was the High School Musical soundtrack. Several other Disney teeny-boppers also had top five albums. That is exactly the market Sanjaya appeals to. That being said, he is definitely the worst singer ever in the top 10.
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ID: 031811922
Fri, Apr 06, 2007, 17:22
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I can't disagree with you, Balrog. Depending on what Jordan and Melinda put out, I expect those two to be the better sellers, but maybe nobody even goes platinum from this bunch.
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ID: 132162015
Fri, Apr 06, 2007, 19:45
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Many of the top selling "Teen Idols" could'nt sing a lick. Personally, I'm not fond of the whole AI genre, and I espically dislike vocalists with only one name;).
I'm a blues, jazz, r & b, metal, and band type of guy.
I watch AI because I find the whole process, and the judges interesting. You don't have good but you have to be interesting.
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Leader
ID: 41750315
Sat, Apr 07, 2007, 13:33
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There is no way that Sanjaya wins AI.
Right now we cant vote against him.
As the votes get consolidated the 80% who dislike him will overcome the 20% who are keeping him in the competition.
Right now the 80% is getting spread out over too many contestants.
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ID: 539581218
Wed, Apr 11, 2007, 00:15
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As a whole they were a lot better this week.
Blake was the best, but I also really enjoyed Jordin and even Phil. He can sing in that high register. Melinda was much better than she got credit for.
Compared to how Sanjaya had been singing all season, he was great, but still not close to staying out of the top three based purely on talent. Really, the only one I hated was Haley. Simon said the same thing I hav ebeen sayng about her showing skin. She looked cheap and didn't even show enough in order to stay. She flirted a little--but not enough. She really does have to play that card. She should be going home this week, assuming Sanjaya keeps getting the sympathy vote. She was even worse than Sanjaya this week.
I personally didn't like Chris. The judges liked it for the most part, but I didn't. In fact, I'd have him in the bottom 3, though he should be going home this week. Lakesha wasn't bad, just not great. Esp. if Sanjaya isn't in the bottom three, she is very suspect. Make no mistake though. haley or Sanjaya should be going home. My guess...Haley.
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ID: 73471014
Wed, Apr 11, 2007, 08:37
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According to the scores at DialIdol don't be surprised to see Lakisha Jones in the bottom 3 tonight - for the past two weeks she hasn't been getting the love from the voters. Melinda looks to be the favorite, Sanjaya won't be going anywhere anytime soon, Phil Stacey for some reason is getting a lot of support, Blake looks to be the only guaranteed safe bet for tonight, Jordin also hasn't been getting the votes lately, but Haley is definitely at the bottom overall, although she's received unusual support this week.
My pick for bottom 3 - Lakisha, Jordin, and Haley with Jordin being shown the door.
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Leader
ID: 41750315
Wed, Apr 11, 2007, 09:49
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Bottom 3.
Haley/Phil/Chris.
Haley going home.
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ID: 539581218
Wed, Apr 11, 2007, 11:30
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If Jordin goes home, there will be hell to pay. She is one of the best singers in the competition. She is not in position to win yet, but who knows how things will shake out once they get down to the final 3 or 4 if she's still there. Melinda is still the odds on favorite to win it all. I don't bet. But if I did, she'd be the one to go with. The final four needs to be Melinda, Jordin and Lakesha for the women and Blake for the men.
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ID: 372412215
Wed, Apr 11, 2007, 13:03
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The boys were better than the girls last night. Sanjaya won't be in the botton 3, he had all the little girls swooning, and maybe even some of the older ones.
Every year there is one singer that even though they may have talent, I just don't like for some reason, Fantasia, Jennifer Hudson for example. This year, Jordin. I can't pinpoint it, maybe the diva factor. Maybe that is why some people think she will be out. Haley should be out, but I thought that last week. I think the Lakisha train is running out of steam, she peaked too early.
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ID: 539581218
Wed, Apr 11, 2007, 13:11
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DialIdol has Lekesha leving this week with Jordin and Chris joining her in the bottom three. Though with their +/- % they seem to think only Blake is absolutely safe from finishing in 8th and leaving. Wonder why Zaba isn't tracking them this year. They were always 100% accurate. Maybe AI figured out how to stop them. Not srue hw they were getting their info anyhow, but they were able to measure the votes. Cingular Wireless maybe?
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ID: 3810431417
Wed, Apr 11, 2007, 16:13
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I thought Chris was great. Smooth is one of my all-time favorites and I was pretty nervous for him when they announced what he was singing.
Blake was great, Jordan as well.
Phil/Haley/Sanjaya aren't on my radar at all.
Best scenario for me would be Blake/Chris/Jordan in the final three.
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ID: 031811922
Wed, Apr 11, 2007, 20:11
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I enjoyed Blake, Jordin, Phil, and Melinda. I agree that this was probably Sanjaya's best performance, but it still didn't make me jump out of my seat. I am tired of seeing him. Lakisha sounded okay, but I'm tired of her too. Chris was horrible. He took a really good song and made it sound weak and awful. Haley was bad too. No matter the song, she has the same expression on her face and belts the same high note. She will not sign a record deal when this is over.
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ID: 41750315
Wed, Apr 18, 2007, 01:52
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Counrty Week:
Ranked in order:
Melinda - Excellent perfomance as usual.
Jordin - The vocals were great....but she looked a little too stiff.
Phil - By far his best performance....too littl too late though...will be bottom 3.
Blake - Another solid performance, but not in the same league as Melinda.
Lakisha - Not a great performance. Butchered the song.
Chris - Only Sanjaya could save him from the worst performance. If he doesnt go home this week Stern and VFTW might think of dropping Sanjaya for Chris.
Sanjaya - A+ for guts.....F- for talent.
Bottome 3:
Phil, Chris, Lakisha.
Chris going home.
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Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Wed, Apr 18, 2007, 09:25
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I had it Jordin, Phil, and then Melinda. Jordin and Phil were fantastic with no flaws. Melinda and Blake were both good, but I barely heard the country in their songs. Chris and Sanjaya were a coin flip for me on who was the worst. I have to agree that Chris will be going home.
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ID: 3810431417
Wed, Apr 18, 2007, 11:57
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Although I agree, I really hate to see Chris go. I guess Simon doesn't like Rascal Flats either, since they are pretty "nasal."
Still don't like Phil, even tho he had his best performance yet. Jordan, Blake & Melinda were the best.
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ID: 539581218
Wed, Apr 18, 2007, 15:05
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I have them ranked the same as weykool. Sanjaya was just bad. This would be a perfect time for him to go, but if he stays, Chris is gone. I agree with Simon about Lakisha.
I still say Melinda will win, Jordin 2nd and Blake 3rd.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Apr 18, 2007, 22:00
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Thank God!!!
The Reign of Terror is over!!!
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Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Wed, Apr 18, 2007, 23:13
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No doubt, Ref.
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Donor
ID: 04352469
Thu, Apr 19, 2007, 00:50
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It's about time!!!! Guess Simon can keep his job after all. ;)
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ID: 031811922
Thu, Apr 19, 2007, 01:39
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I just looked at Dial Idol to see how they were ranked for the week and it looks like this is the first week where it was accurate. Phil, Jordin, and Chris Top 3. Melinda in 4th. Lakisha, Blake, and Sanjaya in the bottom three with Sanjaya in last.
I want to go talk smack at the VFTW website, but am sure I will just be banned within moments.
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ID: 132162015
Thu, Apr 19, 2007, 09:07
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Ya know, all in all Sanjaya is just a kid, and he did add a little somethin, somethin to an otherwise non descript cast of medoicre talent.
I know he could'nt sing a lick but in a wierd sort of way he will be missed.
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ID: 539581218
Fri, Apr 20, 2007, 10:55
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I keep waiting for TF to post a follow up and say JUST KIDDING!!!
I won't miss him at all. He was craving for the attention and really thought he could sing and deserved to be there. He even said, I am going to show you I can sing, etc. VFTW...well that about says it all. Youw ere backed by a site and a DJ (Stern) as a joke...because you are the worst.
Man my earaches and upset stomachs may miss him, but that's about it!!!
I think Phil got a big bump because he did well but also because Simon said that he didn't know if his performance was enough to keep him. Those kinds of words are enough to skew the voting. That's how guys like Daughtry et al can be eliminated early. Melina 4th and Blake in 5th is a crime, but it really doesn't matter as long as they aren't eliminated. In fact, Blake may be the top vote getter this week if he does well because of that.
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ID: 133492316
Tue, Apr 24, 2007, 23:30
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Could AI be won by a 17 year old???? Jordin was absolutely outstanding again tonight and is gaining some serious ground on Melinda IMHO.
For whatever reason, LaKisha has regressed over the past few weeks and doesn't have the "it" factor that the Dawg likes to see.
Melinda, I think, is still the consistently best one of any this year and probably should be rewarded with the title but if she has to face Jordin in the finals....look out!
Meanwhile, I didn't really care for any of the guys tonight and wouldn't be surprised to see any of them go. Having said that, I think LaKisha and Chris are the most vulnerable.
Looking forward to tommorrow night's 2 hour show. It was nice to see Simon have a little compassion in his heart for once whether it be for the children in Africa or those here in this country.
Homelessness, poverty and the lack of food is really overlooked here in the USA and I applaud Idol and their sponsers on their efforts to make a small but significant difference in making some lives better.
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Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Wed, Apr 25, 2007, 01:55
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I am with you 100% on your entire post. Melinda and Jordin were my two favorites of the night and out of the guys I liked Phil the best. With that said, 4 hours to vote means the ones with the largest fan bases aren't going anywhere. I think that means this is the week Lakisha goes home, but wouldn't be shocked if Phil or Chris went instead. I wouldn't say anyone was bad tonight, but I just barely rate Blake over Lakisha for the bottom two. He didn't do a great job singing Imagine and didn't hit any of the right notes on that song.
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Leader
ID: 41750315
Wed, Apr 25, 2007, 09:16
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I agree.
Nobody was bad last night.
Jordin and Melinda knocked it out of the park.
With the "S" contestant gone it could be any of the guys or Kisha going home.
Two weeks in a row doing another idol's song and not pulling it off.
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ID: 293141514
Wed, Apr 25, 2007, 16:33
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Blake was bad last night. Since the Top 24 was announced he's impressed me with originality and occasionally good singing, so it's not like I'm a Blake hater. (Although I was miffed when he completely stole 311's arangement of The Cure's "Lovesong" and everyone was heaping praises upon him for making that song his own ...) He's been a lot better than I thought he'd be, but he's probably longer on performance than he is on voice. Which is OK by me in general, except that it's been extremely evident these past two weeks, first with the Tim McGraw song for country week and last night with "Imagine." Man was that bad. Both weeks, he's got this hang-dog look on his face, draws out his syllables too long, and sort of moans his way through vocals when called upon to croon as opposed to jump his way through a song. He really entertains with jazzy, upbeat or modern stuff; he murders the ones where his voice has to stand on its own.
Having said that I think it's time for LaKisha to go. In the beginning everyone loved her booming voice, but I think (1) Simon's dead on when he says she's shouting her way along now, and (2) Melinda and Jordin are simply doing that vocal style better than she is now. IMHO there won't be enough critical mass to carry the votes for all 3 of them, and she's running a distant 3rd in that race.
Chris was excellent last night IMHO. The best he's ever been, and I never really liked his whiny/nasally voice to begin with. I think he could front a Rascal Flatts cover band right now, and I'd be more interested in his style of country music than ...
Phil Stacy, who I personally think has zero talent. People seem to like him (Simon??) but to me he comes off as a complete phony. There's something disingenuous about him and it irks me. He was OK last night, and chose a great song for himself, but if and when he leaves, I'll be happy.
To me, Melinda and Jordin are the clear frontrunners (gasp!), but could be derailed by the "market" issue I mentioned earlier (like when teammates take writers' MVP votes away from each other). If that happens, I think Blake has the best shot at sneaking into the final group. Jordin led off last night's song a little scared I thought, but built to a great vocal. I think Melinda could sing on any Gladys Knight album right now and no one would know the difference.
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ID: 539581218
Wed, Apr 25, 2007, 22:53
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I was so pissed when Jordin was the last one standing when everyone else was safe. Probably what happened is that was the vote and AI said screw that, they are all staying and the votes will be added together next week and teh bottom two go home. I found out that, AI is has an entertainment license (Like WWE), not a game show license so they would not be in trouble for "rigging" anything. Not saying they do, but it's possible. Of course they could have had this planned all along too. But that's not right what they did to Jordin if that's the case. Dial Idol had her as the best last night.
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ID: 249542719
Wed, Apr 25, 2007, 23:20
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Maybe a way to remind people to vote vote vote for their fav/the best and not to vote for someone they just like that may be vulnerable.
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Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Thu, Apr 26, 2007, 01:11
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I was tripping when Ryan told Chris he was safe. Didn't lob out any f-bombs, but they were on the way. Crappy thing to do to her when she has to get up and sing with jumbled emtions.
chode, I am down with most of your post, but have to disagree with Phil. Early on, I didn't have him as top 12 material. 4 out of the last 6 weeks he's been the best male vocal. He definitely has the biggest voice out of all of them and he hits the loud notes just right. Chris and Blake both have zero power and are very limited on how they can sing songs. I also don't think he's a phony or disingenuous. He's been up front at least three times in the bottom three and was trashed weekly by Simon and Randy early on. I think he's kinda just put that stress aside and just coming out each week to do his best. If nothing else, the smile on his wife's face when she is watching him makes me feel like he is a genuine guy.
I could be wrong, but I get those impressions much more from Blake and Melinda. I am sure both are wonderful people, but they both have a different look when the camera flashes to them. Just like last year's winner Hicks. When the camera wasn't on him he seemed to be looking for the camera. 1/2 a second after it hits him we get a louder note or more energy/painful, soulful expressing like he was pouring out his soul. Everything about him seemed phony. I'm talking about when they are doing the group singing.
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Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Thu, Apr 26, 2007, 01:18
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Meant to mention that I had no doubt that Jordin was the top vote getter last night right up until they pulled that stunt. She got the all the praises, sang very well, and went last. Those always seem to be good combos for sticking around. I'm sure I voted for her over 200 times. Don't bust my nuts about it. It was for a good cause and I was able to watch the Unit and NCIS while doing it just by clicking flash and redial. I'm sure that if I was even more serious about it and if the lines weren't so busy the first couple of hours, I could have gotten twice the votes in.
I've tried off and on for hours tonight to get through and make a donation, but the line is busy. I think I will try from the website. Tonight's show was very moving for me. I'd love to see many of the world's problems solved during my lifetime. Very worthy cause.
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ID: 133492316
Thu, Apr 26, 2007, 01:29
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Idol Gives Back was some telethon, huh? ;) Let's see, they can raise $30M (as Ryan alluded to) in one night or so and yet it takes ALL YEAR LONG for Jerry Lewis' Muscular Dystrophy Telethon to raise just over $50M each year. Guess that's the power behind Idol nowadays. ;) As long as ALL of Idol's take goes to the charities mentioned, I'm ok with that.
The show itself seemed scattershot from the beginning. What was up with Ryan editing himself? LOL Anybody else get freaked out to see Elvis up there with Celine Dion. I don't know how they did it but it was something I may never want to see again. Too creepy for my taste.
But this just in......."Elvis, you da bomb dude. You really brought your A-game dawg. I can see you having a hit record with that. Did I ever tell you I used to work with Journey?"....
Ok, thank you Randy, now back to our regularly scheduled rant....
Paula's bosoms.......ok, nuff said! ;)
I too was surprised that Jordin was (almost) eliminated. Can't say that was too nice of Idol to do that to her. (Idol producers before the show scrambling on how they should do it: "Ok, let's get the crowd fired up from the beginning and tell them that this results show has the biggest surprise of them all. Then, at the end, let's fool the most emotionally invested and sensitive of all the Idols and really see if we can make her cry like a baby before 30+ million people!") Idiots!!!
Meanwhile, we are led to believe that this week's PLUS next week's results will be added together and the bottom two eliminated??? Ugh, can we get 70 million votes next week too. Otherwise, just go ahead and throw Chris and LaKisha off the show and let's move on....;)
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Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Thu, Apr 26, 2007, 02:12
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Dude, great post. All the same thoughts went through my mind. Ryan editing himself at the begining was funny, because I am thinking he thought they just restarted...lol. Paula's boobs...well, I still like them. A huge chunk of that 30 million was probably corporate and star donations. The phone lines are still busy, so hopefully they are getting tons of donations. It took me about a minute to kick a 100 bucks in online. I already feel guilty knowing I could do more, but that isn't the only place I contribute to either.
I thought Elvis being on stage was cool. I am not into most of the music Celine puts out, but she can sing. Yep, I am thinking cya to Chris and Lakisha next week, but I do think it's cool that they didn't boot anyone this week. 70 million votes makes me think Jordin and Melinda have a huge lead already, but after this weeks stunt, Jordin will be getting lots of votes next week.
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ID: 323472012
Thu, Apr 26, 2007, 07:01
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The show itself seemed scattershot from the beginning. What was up with Ryan editing himself? LOL Anybody else get freaked out to see Elvis up there with Celine Dion. I don't know how they did it but it was something I may never want to see again. Too creepy for my taste.
Creepy for many reasons. Celine creeps me out - had to walk away from it during that portion.
I really don't want to see Chris go, but I have to agree that he likely will.
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ID: 539581218
Thu, Apr 26, 2007, 13:52
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I really like Melinda, but her surprised look at first seemed very humbling, but then it struck me as fake. Lakisha is gone. I thought at first she was in the top 2 or 3, but lately, she has just been ok at best.
I really like Chris for perhaps the first time. I hated him the couple previous weeks even when the judges liked him durin Latin week.
Melinda and Jordin still rise above the rest, but Phil has been great and I find him very genuine. I have been a Blake fan since early on, but was very unimpressed with him this week. His voice and no fullness to it at all. I don't think Phil is the complete package, but if he can get the right songs and style, he can do some major damage. Blake is going to have to bring in some of his beat-boxing effects back I think as that is his niche.
With all that said, unless, Blake or Phil have a bad week, then Chris and Lakisha are history next week. Phil is still suspect, but like TB said, they had 70M votes last week and even though the lines will be opne for 4 hrs this week as well, they are still looking at about 60% or so this week. That really knocks Lakisha out right there IMM. Phil is more suspect than Blake normally, but Phil outsang Blake last week and with more votes, Blake could be suspect with another bad week.
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| | | 114 | Texas Flood
ID: 132162015
Thu, Apr 26, 2007, 17:23
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While watching AI last night I was flipping channels. When I clicked back on the Elvis Celine duet I was thinking to myslef, "This Elvis impersonator is really good". I had no clue as to what was actually happening.
Just thought you guys might get a chuckle out of that one!
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Donor
ID: 04352469
Wed, May 02, 2007, 00:12
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Simon and LaKisha sitting in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G! ;)
Tonight's Idol was pretty good. All six remaining performed Bon Jovi songs and, with the exception of Jordin, did a pretty nice job IMHO. Here's one person's recap:
I was pretty impressed that Blake decided to bring back his beat-boxing ways to "You Give Love A Bad Name". I think it could have definitely backfired on him but to his credit he really made it his own.
Welcome back LaKisha....the girl just needs to continue to bring that sassy-like attitude she showed tonight....that's what America loves about her. Don't be singing us these pretty little ballads and previous Idols hand-me-downs; bring us the 'tude and we'll keep you on the show.
Jordin.........Puh---leeze. After last week's unforgivable embarrassment of a results show that seemingly eliminated her before bringing her back, she was the one that provided the embarrassment tonight. Nevertheless, we know that with two weeks of votes counting, she'll be a cinch to sing next week.
Chris......pack your bags buddy; it's time to go. Thought you sang alright but ain't no way...NO WAY!....you deserve to be in the top four. Now, get off my TV!
Phil.......I thought LaKisha was in trouble but certainly she's more worthy than you to go to the Final Four; thus it's your turn to be eliminated. Phil, take your doofus looking bald head and begone.
Melinda.......Ah, my Idol can sing anythang! Anythang!!!! Ballads? No problem. Big gusto soul performances? No problem? Country? No problem. Rock? No problem. The phone book? No probl...well, you get the picture.
IMHO, I think Chris is certain to go home tommorrow. Phil is in danger; so is LaKisha and now maybe, just maybe Jordin. We do know only Melinda and Blake are safe. So, after considering the body of work for the whole season thus far, here's hoping Chris and Phil bite the dust.
Of course this is the time where the Tamyra's, the LaToya's and the Chris' of the past have gotten knocked earlier than what was probably warranted, so really, who knows??? As long as they keep Melinda, I'm happy.
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ID: 539581218
Wed, May 02, 2007, 00:22
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Ya know, Jordin wsan't that good, but she wasn't awful either. Surely she could have found another song.
Most impressive was Blake. He took a song that everyone knows, kept the same chorus but put his personality and strength into it. He doesn't have a big voice, so I was most worried about him this week as faras people I want to move on.
I also was very impressed with Phil, Melinda and Lakisha. It's the best Lakisha has been in a long time but is it too little too late? Phil nailed it. He has really come on lately. Apparently Jordin had the lowest vote total last week and with tonights subpar performance, it would be a shame if she went as she was absolutely sensational last week. I should have voted for her a few times. My guess is that she is the top vote getter for that reason and she stays.
I really wasn't impressed with Chris. I mean he wasn't bad but he wasn't great either. He just doesn't have the big voice for that kind of song. The nasally doesn't work in a rock song...sorry. He was already in the bottom three and I don't see any way he makes the top 4.
With that being said, I'm predicting that Chris and Lakisha goes bye-bye. If Lakisha had been good last week, then it's a different story. Hell, she had been bad for so long after that great start, that she is just too late to save herself IMM.
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| | | 117 | weykool
ID: 34350285
Wed, May 02, 2007, 09:12
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Gotta agree with Ref.
Chris and Lakisha going home.
Did they actualy say who was top and who was bottom last week?
I didnt recall that they said who was bottom 3.
At any rate I voted a few times for Jordin last night.
I think people need to factor in that it wasnt her best song style and keep in mind that she can sing.
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ID: 293141514
Wed, May 02, 2007, 10:19
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After last night, there are so many ways this could go. The only travesty would be if Melinda somehow gets shown the door. At the risk of repeating Randy Jackson (perhaps one of the least articulate people on prime time TV), she brings a professional performance every night.
Jordin was bad last night - her worst yet, and certainly not befitting of clear-cut #2/untouchable status. I still like her a lot and recognize this week's theme was rough for her, but her vocals were choppy, and she brought no originality. Still my #2, but wow did she come back to earth.
I'm very torn on Blake's performance last night, and no one else seems to be. On the one hand, it's certainly ballsy to go out and do the unexpected, make a song your own, fly in the face of the guy who wrote it and made it famous, and risk America hating it at this stage of the competition. So kudos for all that.
On the other hand, what's "courageous" about doing exactly what your style is (beat boxing and sound effects?), regardless of genre of the song? If there was a "hip hop" contestant on the show, I wouldn't be impressed that he just rapped his way through country week. I'd call it a bail out and proof of his one-dimensional talent. I'm not saying Blake did the equivalent, and he obviously did sing a bit. But the vocals weren't that good, and to me, the end product still sucked. Yes it was diverse, yes it was original, yes it was "outside the box" (pardon the pun). But I think part of the diversity of the competition is to show your range, and get outside your comfort zone, which is the exact opposite of what Blake did. Melinda's no rocker, but she rocked last night. Jordin's no rocker, and she flopped last night ... but isn't it much more "courageous" to get out there and try to respect the genre (like Jordin did) instead of taking the song and turning it into a Michael Winslow sketch? All told, I do think it was ballsy from a competition standpoint, and I think he'll stick around this week. But it wasn't courageous from a style standpoint, and when it comes down to it, based on his subpar vocals (IMHO) from the prior 2 weeks, Blake bailed on rocking out because his voice doesn't cut it.
Phil was good - fortunate for him the rock/country weeks have lined up nicely in the schedule. His theatrics left a lot to be desired though, as Simon pointed out.
Chris was not good - he's not selling anyone on a rock song with that squeaky voice. But if he'd had boy band week to work with, he'd be staying and Phil would be out ... them's the breaks. LaKisha was decent, not great. I was a bit nauseated though at the amount of lipstick she must have been wearing to have left so much on Simon after that short peck. [shiver]
The interesting thing to me will be if LaKisha's and Jordin's performances this week make people forget about the past, say, 6 weeks, when Jordin was dominating LaKisha's vocals. Hopefully the market will vote with a little memory. I say Chris and LaKisha go home.
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Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Wed, May 02, 2007, 12:12
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Agreed with what has been said so far.
I really think it is time for Chris and Lakisha to go.
But, that said, it could be Chris and Phil, but hopefully the votes from the combination of the two weeks are enough to keep Phil around.
Also think Jordin could be at risk, but she shouldn't be.
Only time will tell.
Cliff
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, May 02, 2007, 16:15
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chode, you have to play to your strengths and make songs your own within what's given. I mean they are looking for artists to release records. Who in the world would buy a re-release of a song that sounded exactly like the original?
The big risk for Blake was that everyone in the world knows that song. You generally don't mess with success. He hasn't had the opportunity lately to get his personality in the competition that he was able to do before. He doesn't have the best voice so he must do what sets him apart. Kind of like Haley and the "sex appeal" etc., he is good at what he does and needs to have it in there. I think Haley may have stuck around until this week if she continues to show skin and flirt more. I think she cut back on it and it hurt her. Her voice wasn't enough to carry her. She should have been out long before.
I think Blake's outside the box thinking was much like the Run DMC and Aerosmith in Walk This Way. Run DMC brought rockes and rap music (pre hip hop) together. Of course rockers wouldn't admit it at first. But they took a rock song and made it modern and made a lot of money for both of them. I always kinda liked Walk This Way before, but never loved it. That all changed with that newer version.
Kudos to Blake. He's performing his way into a record deal--whether he wins or even finshes top 2 or 3. And lets be honest, he CAN sing. In fact, all six can sing. I just don't enjoy Chris, but I think he could make it in some genre--maybe in a boy band group like Chode suggested.
As far as last week, we were left to assume that the bottom three were Chris, Lakisha and Jordin would have been voted out had it counted. Don't think they ever said these were the three lowest vote totals but that's how I interpreted it. Also the info at Dial Idol had that same scenario. Inf act, I forgot to check Dial Idol before now and they have the order like this (with about a 1.3% margin of error based on busy signals--remember two numbers means less busy signals which means lower MoE):
Jordin 20.53
Blake 18.24
Phil 16.16
Melinda 15.85
Lakisha 14.7
Chris 14.19
Remember though that they are combining last weeks' 70M votes with this weeks maybe 35-40M votes in the same 4 hours. Melinda hasn't been getting the top vote totals as people are voting to save people in trouble. Still I don't think Melinda will be low enough to be in trouble. If these numbers are close, I think Jordin may get enough votes this week to save her and my prediction will hold up of Chirs and Lakisha gone.
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ID: 353452713
Wed, May 02, 2007, 19:07
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I think what they all found out was that it is much harder to front a rock band than almost any other genre.
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| | | 122 | Bond, James Bond
ID: 37422221
Wed, May 02, 2007, 23:38
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Chris and Phil have departed! Ah, that was nice. ;)
The Final Four of Melinda, Jordin, LaKisha and Blake now battle it out. I think American finally got one right! Woohoo!
Right off hand it seems to me that only Melinda will be safe enough to go to the final three but I reckon that next week's show will be HUGE in terms of who is a contender and who is the pretender. Both Blake and LaKisha will have to have the performances of their lives if they want to move on.
Can Melinda win it all? Absolutely. I think she can even afford a little slippage next week and still be safe.
Can Jordin win it all? Yes. But only if she performs to the level that we're accustomed to seeing AND with some less than stellar performances by Melinda.
Can LaKisha win it all? Hmmmm. Doubtful. Too many chinks in the armor; not enough full roundedness (outside of the obvious); too much to overcome to win.
Can Blake win it all? No. He's up against three powerhouse ladies; he has a singing rendtion/style that drives some people crazy; is the only guy left of a majorly disappointing season for the males. A woman deserves to win it this year.
My predictions on how it all will pan out:
1. MELINDA
2. Jordin
3. Blake
4. LaKisha
I think all four will have stellar careers ahead of them and I wish them well. Let's hope the next few weeks brings out the best in all four of these worthy competitors.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, May 08, 2007, 21:07
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Jordin and Melinda should be safe. I think I like Blake over Lakisha though neitehr did well today. In fact the show wasn't the greatest.
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ID: 52621719
Tue, May 08, 2007, 21:23
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Jordin good.
Blake bad, goodbye.
Toral
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ID: 11430613
Tue, May 08, 2007, 22:09
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shoot, I forgot to watch tonight. ugh. got busy chatting with a friend.
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ID: 4454718
Tue, May 08, 2007, 23:41
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Not pleased with tonight's performances at all! You'd think that with the four best singers of this year, each would step up their respective game and bring it. Sadly, none did. None!
If I had to choose, Jordin would have won the night by default. She was better than average but far less than what we're used to. Of course, the Bee Gees were only 683 years ago, so who could blame her for not connecting fully. ;)
Melinda did not do her usual masterpiece performance with either song. Sbe was very good in spots but just average overall. Still, I'd give her second for the night.
Blake had a couple of interesting performances that he tried to make his own. As much as I like him as an entertainer, his lack of vocal range really hurts him whenever his beat-boxing skiils are so much better than his singing. But I do believe that America does appreciate his style and although he'll be in the bottom two tommorrow, he'll end up being safe because of the lack of urgency felt from...........
............LaKisha. What is it with this girl? She performed so well the first few weeks we saw her and then all of a sudden, el zippo!!! Ok, she did redeem herself a little last week but whatever momentum she gained from that, she quickly threw away. Neither one of her performances were that good and she will now end up being fourth for this year IMHO. Just wished she would have been more consistent throughout the season. She had me at "And I'm Telling You". Sadly, let me tell you something LaKisha: Bye-bye!
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Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Tue, May 08, 2007, 23:49
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Dude, the Bee Gees rock. So many great songs to choose from. I'm very surprised at the ones selected.
Jordin needed to have a great week and she did. I loved both her songs. Melinda wasn't great this week, but that is being relative to what she's done in the past. She sounded good even though both songs are very similar to most of her other performances. I think most contestants wish they did as well as she does on just her average weeks. Both should be safe.
I kinda like what Blake did, but it was nothing new from him. IMO, his appeal is that no previous contestants has done what he does. I hear contemporary thrown around a lot when he is described. With that said, his vocals were pretty weak and I have to believe it's become obvious to most watchers. Lakisha was okay, but I have to agree with you and believe this is her week to go.
I don't think the top 12 were eliminated in the correct order, but I do think we have the correct top four. I would have liked to see Stephanie and Gina hang out a bit longer and am surprised how much Phil grew on me. Barry Gibb said some pretty big things about Jordin tonight. I wouldn't be surprised to see that she is the biggest eventual album seller out of this season's crop regardless of who wins.
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ID: 4454718
Wed, May 09, 2007, 00:22
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TB....Sorry if you think I dissed the Bee Gees; that was NOT my intention. I absolutely loved the Bee Gees but my point was that Jordin wasn't even born until what?...1989! The Brother Gibbs were far, far removed from their peak by then.
I am in agreement with pretty much of the rest of your assessment. Song selection, as we know, is so vital and yet none of them really played to their respective strengths IMHO.
Gibbs' liking of Jordin was somewhat surprising but I do think she probably does have the best potential/talent, etc. to become the best seller out of anybody we've seen in Season 6.
By the way, I hadn't heard Barry Gibb speak in a long, long time. Seems to me his voice has changed or maybe he's wearing dentures now or something. Not sure what was going on there...
Also, for those that may not know it, I think Barry Gibb was the owner of what used to be Johnny Cash's house...before it burned down a few weeks back. :(
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Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Wed, May 09, 2007, 00:41
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Hey bro, I was teasing but I do have some Bee Gees greatest hits on my ipod. Yeah, I don't know what was wrong with Barry but his mouth didn't seem to be working correctly. Almost like he's had a mild stroke.
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ID: 34350285
Wed, May 09, 2007, 09:21
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So next week will just be a formality until the Melinda/Jordin finals.
Speaking of song choice.
When the show opened and they were playing "Staying Alive" the thought crossed my mind right then that one of the contestants would make the blunder of choosing that song and it would be a disaster.
Sure enough......Lakisha fell for it and fell flat with it.
There are certain songs that work because of who sang it.
Staying Alive worked for the BeeGees and they are probably the only group that could pull it off.
The song is not that melodic and it is difficult to do something with a chorus that basically has the one phrase of "Staying Alive".
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, May 09, 2007, 12:18
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DialIdol predicts that Melinda and Lakisha will be on the bottom two and it is very close to who is leaving. Lakisha is JUST behind Melinda but with the Margin of Error so high, they predict Melinda could go. I knew Blake would get a big bump based on the judges comments. It BETTER not come at the expense of Melinda. Lakisha is the obvious choice to leave and as I do agree that next week SHOULD be a formality. I enjoy Blake but he is not in the same league with Melinda and Jordin. Lakisha needs some formal training. She has the voice but needs to learn how to harness it.
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ID: 4454718
Wed, May 09, 2007, 23:47
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LaKisha.........see you later !!!! ;)
Not disappointed with tonight's results at all. Now no matter what happens in their performances next week, I think Jordin has assured herself a spot in the Finals IMHO.
I do think that Melinda does have a little to be concerned about next week. She's quite a bit older than either Blake or Jordin and if the "young generation" shows up in their voting next week, we just may see a Jordin-Blake finale. I hope not.
Two questions about tonight's show:
1. Did Pink actually perform there in the studio where Ryan and the judges were? When I played back the performance, the cameras didn't catch any of the Idols, nor Ryan nor any of the judges. Thought it was strange. I could be wrong though.
2. What happened to the talent that was Barry Gibb? He was a shell of his former self out there tonight. Not good.
Looking forward to the semi-finals.
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Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Thu, May 10, 2007, 00:12
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Dude is almost 61 years old, but you are correct in that he is a shell of what he once was. He does look great for his age, though.
Pink was in the studio, but she was being drowned out by her back-up singers. When the foursome started their medley, Melinda's mic was jacked up so I am guessing they were having some sound issues.
Blake's lack of vocals has never more apparent than tonight when his tiny voice was lost during group singing. I swear it seemed like the girls were all holding back just to try and make it appear like he was contributing. I think Melinda, Lakisha, and Jordin could rock a song together and when they did their solo bits it sounded good, but they really had to take it down a few notches to include him.
I hope it turns out to be a Melinda-Jordin finals.
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ID: 353452713
Thu, May 10, 2007, 07:07
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I'm still shaking my head over the whole Bee Gee night concept. What's next Gwar!
Anyone else excited over the new band concept announced last night. I've always been a much bigger fan of groups than solo artists.
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ID: 052347519
Thu, May 10, 2007, 20:02
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TF - good one, Melinda really had me convinced that she was a death metal god during her guttural rendition of 'maggots... maggots... maggots are falling like rain'.
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ID: 539581218
Fri, May 11, 2007, 00:43
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Zabasearch has once again begun to post the graph prediction several hours before it occurred. It has apparently always been right. This past week it had the same as DialIdol with Blake having the most votes, followed by Jordin and Melinda 3rd.
Blake has a huge fan base out there, but with Lakisha going, that should give the other two ladies a boost. Still, the ladies are splitting the votes that may allow Blake into the Finals.
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ID: 353452713
Fri, May 11, 2007, 13:41
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Melinda has to go, she has no neck!
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ID: 11430613
Fri, May 11, 2007, 16:07
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lol TF...that's a comment i've made since the beginning. ;-)
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ID: 52621719
Tue, May 15, 2007, 20:56
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Simon is chickening out. He has done so with his comments.
Seacrest asked him to name a winner; he refused to do so.
Conclusion: Simon is not even trying to be a real judge. but just a preliminary-round a****le.
It's one thing to make fun of people, dump on obvious losers, ; another thing to make distinctions among 3 or 4 contestants -- One of whom might be the American Idol.
That's why I think Simon is a sh8t judge. Knowingly so; also why he now makes $10M+ per year.
OK next: Lakisha: "I Who Have Nothing". A favourite song.
Pretty good. 8 1/2. Sounded like she understood the meanings of the lyrics. SIMON is the IDIOT complaining that a "17-year-old is singing a 60-YEAR-OLD-SONG".
Hey, fire Simon, is my O. I appreciate that he is blunt, his style in the respect of bluntness is exactly right; but his musical tastes are just the opposite of mine. He just praised a weak performance by Blake because it "sounded new". We could just kill Simon. But better -- where to find the Anti-Simon, the Simon of Supermans' "Bizarro World?"
(I'd rather have Seacrest tell it was was up with his dating Teri Hatcher".)
Toral
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ID: 52621719
Tue, May 15, 2007, 20:59
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Despite the nice comments by the judges...Melinda is soul/Gospel. No-one is going to go to her concerts. It was a pleasure to listen to a truly great artist though.
Toral
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ID: 539581218
Wed, May 16, 2007, 00:09
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Toral, you mean Jordin, not Lakisha ;)
I thought all three did good to great on all three songs. I agree with you on the too young for a 60 year old song. Hogwash.
I think Melinda can sing in whatever genre she wants to, including pop. In fact, I like all three. I think I would be most upset if Melinda was kicked out this week. Of the three, the weakest vocalist is Blake. He's not bad. In fact, I liked Roxanne from him. He's not trying to be Sting. One week you tell him to sing it straight and the next week, it was a copycat performance. Oh please. He could have done a lot more with his last two songs. In fact, his final song was good (not great like even Simon said), it was a tough song, but I figured he'd do something to really he get in his unique style. I was disappointed by him basically staying away from it. I felt he needed another 16 measure beatbox type thing.
I think heading into the finals it should be Melinda #1 and Jordin #2. Blake needs to be ousted, but not forgotten. I really enjoyed most of his performances.
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ID: 031811922
Wed, May 16, 2007, 00:28
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I don't get why they decided to have each contestant sing three songs, when each one of them sang a song we've seen before. I did think all three did better with their songs this time. Melinda goobed up the words early, but she would get my vote for best of the three tonight. Jordin was very good. Blake was just okay for me. I am bored with him at this point. I like nice vocals and he doesn't have them. My guess is that he makes the finals, though. I think Jordin is the odd one out. Regardless of who makes it, it will be a better finals than last year.
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ID: 34350285
Wed, May 16, 2007, 03:24
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The final 3 have always done 3 songs.
Next week the final 2 will do 4 songs.
Still looking for a Melinda-Jordin finals.
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ID: 031811922
Wed, May 16, 2007, 19:58
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Yeah, I remember that from last season, but I would rather see two complete songs than a third song I've already seen before. Maybe they do it that way because it's hard for them to learn three new songs for the week. Maybe all the contestants should be told to learn a new song for the semi-finals in case they make it there.
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ID: 539581218
Wed, May 16, 2007, 20:37
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Zaba has Melinda leaving tonight. I've never seen zababe wrong. They jsut started up a couple weeks ago after predicting correctly all last year.
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ID: 031811922
Wed, May 16, 2007, 22:30
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Just like last season, the best vocalist goes home the week before the finals. Yeah, I was a Daughtry fan last year, but Elliot had the best pipes. Speaking of Elliot, good to see him tonight. I see he's had some stage presence coaching. No more funky little dance steps while he sings and instead of the wide-eye look, we got the closed eyes look. I've heard him sing that song already, but enjoyed it again tonight.
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ID: 353452713
Thu, May 17, 2007, 07:34
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It was clear the anti Simon and grily factors played into last nights decision. I had Jordan going home, and was quite suprised to see Melinda voted out. In the end it was Melinda's humility, and lack of personality that did her in.
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ID: 34350285
Thu, May 17, 2007, 10:07
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I think it was a simple case of Melinda and Jordin splitting votes.
I have to think that Jordin will win easily next week as the anti-Blake vote should be huge.
Win or lose I think Jordin will sell more records than either Blake or Melinda.
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Dude
ID: 204401122
Thu, May 17, 2007, 11:27
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You know for sure next year that a gimmick like Blake doesn't make it out of Hollywood.
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ID: 01584348
Thu, May 17, 2007, 11:32
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I'm sorry to see Melinda go. I know Blake has a following, and he may have more commercial value right now than Jordin, but I'd be surprised if it was not a landslide win for Jordin next week.
As for the thing about Melinda and Jordin splitting votes, I guess that is true If the majority of people vote for only one contestant.
To avoid the whole splitting votes issue I usually have my daughter give me two people to vote for (and we normally call just once for each). Last night, we called in and voted 5 times each for Melinda and Jordin just in case. Sometimes, early in the season I have her pick 3 or 4 to vote for. Of course if 60 million votes are cast, those who vote dozens of times have more of a voice than those who vote very few.
The finale will be the only time each season we vote for 1 contestant.
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ID: 539581218
Thu, May 17, 2007, 15:52
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weykool agrees with me completely.
Melinda shoudl be in the finals. I told my wife that Blake would do an Abraham Lincoln and get into the finals because Jordin and Melinda would split the votes while the people who like Blake's style would obviously vote for him in force. I am going to watch the finale before deciding, but I can't see a way IMM that Blake is better than Jordin. I don't think it's a gimmick whatsoever, but Jordin clearly has better vocals. Blake's vocals are above average, but not superior like an AI winner should have. Blake is a performaer and an entertainer and I think his album will do really well, but I think Jordin and perhaps Melinda could be a superstar. In fact, though I have like Melinda overall and she has been consistently great, Jordin probably even has more potential than her. Remember she's 17 and hasn't really had formal training like Melinda has apparently had.
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ID: 73332719
Thu, May 17, 2007, 16:28
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I think I discovered why I don't like Jordin, she is insincere. Basically, fake. When Melinda got kick off, she put on a fake wiping of the tears for the camera. She is 17, and it seems to be going straight to her head.
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ID: 031811922
Thu, May 17, 2007, 17:25
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I saw real tears, but what does it matter? The whole point is to win the competition and at some point every friend on the show has to leave for you to win. I believe this group is pretty tight this year and they've shown it each week as each person left.
Melinda's departure didn't seem as emotional as others have been. She's been one of my favorites all season, but I've always felt she was a little fake herself. That big-eyed look on her face every week like it was a shock the judges complimented her. The judges even got tired enough of it that they had her stop doing it. She milked that about as long as she could.
Jordin has been a little annoying the last two weeks as well. When the judges talk she wants to babble. I know Simon hates to be interupted when he is talking. You can see it on his face. Maybe it's her nerves. I haven't cut her any slack because of her age, but she hasn't fully matured. She is still a kid. I thought she was very overwhelmed at her homecoming.
Anyone else notice that Blake didn't sound good at all when he sang the National Anthem and when he was in front of the crowd in his hometown? Marginal studio voice at best. I still think he is going to win it based on his popularity. Just like Hicks last year. He seems to be the guy this year that realizes he has to make fans happy. They complain about his darker hair color on the message board so he colors his tips. He also seemed a bit disingenuous as we followed him back to his home. Maybe it was just nerves for him as well.
I hate to sound like I am picking at these guys. I love this show and appreciate what each contestant has to do each week. It's been a fun season and I wish them all success.
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ID: 353452713
Thu, May 17, 2007, 17:26
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As for selling albums, I've never bought an album released by an American Idol. Has anyone here actually purchased an AI album?
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Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Thu, May 17, 2007, 17:27
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I have both of Clarkson's and Daughtry's. I've downloaded a few songs from other idols as well. Most of the songs I downloaded were during the American Idol gives back. I thought it was a cool way to donate. I get some songs and the money goes to charity.
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ID: 11430613
Thu, May 17, 2007, 18:07
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I've downloaded some of Daughtry's, but not bought any CD's
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ID: 34350285
Thu, May 17, 2007, 21:05
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Some pretty harsh words there TB.
I think the emotions were sincere.
In interviews thay have all talked about "being in this bubble" and just being caught up in the "whirlwind" of events.
The 3 of them were on the Leno show and were asked how many times they have voted for themselves.
The answer was none.
When leno followed up that they never voted they all talked about voting for other contestants.
I dont think they can help but feel emotions for each other when you consider for they have been "locked" up together for the last 3 months.
In essence they have all gone through the same ups and downs together and the shared experiences have created a very strong bond between them.
I think the look of surprise was genuine for Melinda.
For years she had been a backup singer and now she was stepping to the front and it was probably a little overwhelming for her considering all the praise the judges were heaping on her.
When Simon told her to stop she did and you could see a significant increase in confidence.
As far as buying albums...I bought Underwood's first album and I am looking forward to buying the next one.
I normally only buy greatest hits albums so the the fact that I bought one that wasnt a GH is pretty significant for me.
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ID: 11430613
Thu, May 17, 2007, 21:28
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yeah, forgot about Underwood's CD. I have it and its ok...nothing special though. I'm not really into country like I used to be, somewhat more mainstream pop now I guess. Of course Santana has always been a favorite too.
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ID: 424431915
Sat, May 19, 2007, 16:43
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1.Melinda Doolittle
2.Jordin Sparks
3.Blake Lewis
4.Lakisha Jones
5.Phil stacey
6.Chris Richardson
7.Sanjaya Malakar
8.Haley Scarnato
9.Gina Glocksen
10.Chris Sligh
11.Stephanie Edwards
12.Brandon Rogers
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ID: 031811922
Sat, May 19, 2007, 20:25
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1. Jordin Sparks
2. Melinda Doolittle
3. Gina Glocksen
4. Stephanie Edwards
5. Lakisha Jones
6. Chris Sligh
7. Phil Stacey
8. Sabrina Sloan
9. Blake Lewis
10. Sundance Head
11. Leslie Hunt
12. Chris Richardson
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ID: 353452713
Tue, May 22, 2007, 18:44
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Blake gets the "Chick" vote and wins in a romp. Wait Jordan gets the "She's only 17" vote and she becomes the new American Idol. Hell, I have no clue. IMHO the real Idol as cut loose last week. Melinda was head and shoulders above everyone all season long. I think she lost due to some wierd "Anti-Simon" vote.
For my money Simon is the only person on the entire show that has a clue.
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Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Tue, May 22, 2007, 18:55
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Vegas odds are predicting Jordin.
Jordin -430
Blake +265
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ID: 4454718
Tue, May 22, 2007, 19:09
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Looking forward to seeing Paula tonight. Supposedly, she broke her nose this weekend and I imagine Ryan/Simon will tease her endlessly.
Here's hoping that Jordin does well tonight.
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Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Tue, May 22, 2007, 23:17
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I thought Blakes first song was okay, but not quite as good as the first time he performed it. His vocals were good on the 2nd song and the 3rd song was a disaster all the way around. IMO, he just isn't a very rounded singer and is only going to sound good doing certain songs.
Jordin did okay with her first song and did really well with her last two songs. I'm rooting for her to win.
It was cool to see Daughtry close out tonight's show. Looked like he had eye liner on, though. Creepy.
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ID: 52621719
Tue, May 22, 2007, 23:32
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I'm a Jordin partisan (more of an anti-Blake partisan) so I think she won big.
Simon made some sense tonight. Can't blame him for massaging Paula's upper back/neck early -- a very effective move, quite often. "Stop that!" probably wasn't his desired response.
Blake had this elaborate set for one of his songs, he was trying to look very "cool" pressed right against the back and to the corner of the set. I couldn't help but think, "You know, if that set suddenly opened up, Blake might disappear forever!" -- and we all would be better off!
Go Jordin.
Toral
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ID: 539581218
Wed, May 23, 2007, 17:18
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We all know that ultimately, it's the performance and hype that sells records. There are a lot of people who cna sing yet there are a lot of people who can't sing that make huge money and get all the hype. I could be here all day naming them so I won't get into the Ashley Simpson's of the world and say that Blake could have a nice future ahead of him. I mean, let' sbe real. He will get songs that fit him and he has a good enough voice to pull them off. I mean the boy can sing, he just isn't in the same class as Jordin when it comes to vocals. I really like Jordin's voice and have been rooting for her and Melinda, but I've been more entertained by Blake. He's had a couple songs that I've actually wanted to go back and watch a few times. The Bon Jovi song that he reprised last night was one of them.
I was put off by Randy's obvious agenda for Jordin. Screw the Singing competition crap. We know it's all about appeal. Sanjaya can testify for that. I thght Simon was pretty accurate on some of his comments. Paula--just shut up already. She needed a taxi last week and this week supposedly had a broken nose when there was no bruising or puffiness--oh please. Get out already.
My take: Blake won the first round big time. Not because Jordin wasn't very good but because he just was very good. I thought his vocals were good so shut up Randy. I know you've worked with 17 billion artists but you're high on crack with your not-so-hidden agenda. I think he's a Simon Wanna-be. It's like he needs approval or backing for every comment and tries to copy some of Simon's analogies. I've never been more turned off by him than I was last night.
2nd song: Again I thought Blake did a nice job. I really did. He did better than I expected and proved to me that he can sing. Jordin was sensational. I mean I don't have words to describe it. No professional training. That is God-gifted talent. Jordin wins this round. Not because Blake did poorly but because she was simply sensational.
So going into round three, I was not sure how I felt about it. I mean I was so sure Jordin would dominate. I think Jordin would have the edge simply because she was so good. I don't believe it was a tie. Again, no knock on Blake. If they were rated on a scale of 1-10, Jordin was a probably 8.5 and 10 and Blake was a 9.5 and 8.5.
Third round: Not even close. Blake though wsa sandbagged because that is not what he'd be singing. Nowhere close to his true vocal range and it was too big for him. He doesn't have the big voice with the great range. He is a good singer, but not diva-esque like Jordin. Blake needed to hit a home run to win the competition and he all but struck out. While Jordin crushed it.
I didn't vote, but I clearly think Jordin won. I am basing that on everything, not just vocals.
Now for the results...
JORDIN SPARKS WINS!
ZabaSearch has now accurately predicted the voting outcome of 11 out of the last 11
American Idol voting shows it has forecast.
That includes the last six shows of the 2006 season and the most recent five shows of the 2007 season.
Blake is an amazing talent and is sure to enjoy a huge career, but after LaKisha and Melinda were voted off, Jordin picked up the majority of their support. This explains why Jordin was trailing behind Blake for weeks, but surged at the end.
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ID: 353452713
Wed, May 23, 2007, 17:37
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I learned from the guys in the black helicopters that the last song was actually written for Jordan;). I mean it was totally a "Shrieking Chick" song. It was cheese to the max.
It's obvious to me that Jordan is the best vocalist,but I actually can't stand that type of music. If I want shrieking I'll take Axl Rose, Steven Tyler, or Sebastian Bach.
Blake did a great job with "You Gave Love a Bad Name". IMHO its hitbound,and a top 40 winner if you like that kind of music.
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ID: 34350285
Wed, May 23, 2007, 22:48
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Unbelievable.
Where was my spoiler alert?
West coaster here.
We are watching the red carpet for AI and they go to commercial and I flip over to ESPN to catch up on some baseball scores and the moron...John Kruk announces the winner of AI.
The show hasnt even started and we already know the ending.
What a Dufus.
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Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Wed, May 23, 2007, 23:37
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If you are recording it, add an extra 15 minutes at the end of the timer. I was watching it live when I saw my timer light go off. The show didn't end until 10 after.
Pretty good finale. I enjoyed most of it more than last seasons, but there were parts to both that I liked more.
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ID: 539581218
Thu, May 24, 2007, 00:17
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I told you who had won. Zaba has never been wrong. Fantasia was the only former winner not to appear. Can you imagine how it would have been if all the Idol winners appeared in the same year? I dunno about you but Kelly and Carrie are head and shoulders above the other winners. Though Jordin might be a distant third IMM.
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ID: 031811922
Thu, May 24, 2007, 02:01
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I like Kelly Clarkson, but she isn't the best live singer. Her first song sounded a bit rough, but I like the edge to the song. I love that song from Carrie and I'm not really a country music fan. I thought Ruben sounded really good with Jordin and if he was on the show this year he would have been the best male easily. I thought Taylor sounded great tonight. I wasn't a very big fan of his last year, but he did well.
At the beginning of the show when the females came out in white dresses, I was wondering who told Gina she looked okay in that dress? She looked like a hospital patient. Jordin's dress wasn't very flattering either. Stephanie and Haley, on the other hand, looked great. Sanjaya sounded good when he got the lead at the beginning, but why-oh-why did they have him sing that song again.
I fast-forwarded through most of Tony Bennett and Bette Midler along with the dumb awards they give out...Uggh.
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ID: 189142212
Thu, May 24, 2007, 20:37
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Yeah, kind of sucks about running over if you have TIVO. Normally, I would have been asleep by that time, but fortunately I stayed up last night...
The best part for me was the picture of the real bush baby, hilarious...
It seems to me Kelly Clarkson is putting back on the weight she had lost. BTW, that song she sang sucked. Only Alanis Morrisette should attepmt something like that...
Somehow I missed Bette(thank God), but Smokey still sounds great after all these years, though he has had TONS of work done...
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ID: 34350285
Fri, May 25, 2007, 03:28
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For those who didnt see the last 8 mins of AI.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWCoWiYUBuc
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, May 25, 2007, 17:06
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Clarkson's not fat, but her arms have always been unimpressive. She worked on things a little bit but her arms are worse now than ever. For someone working on their image and showing that all the time, you'd think she'd work on that. Doesn't take a lot of time. I mean she's not fat, but that takes away from her appearance I suppose. The new edgy sound by Clarkson is not my cup of tea. heard it on the radio yesterday and althoguh it's not my favorite song, it's a lot better recorded than live as TB suggested.
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ID: 194432518
Fri, May 25, 2007, 23:24
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kelly clarkson is a goddess. if she puts on a few more pounds, she's a complete and total goddess of all goddesses.
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ID: 11430613
Fri, May 25, 2007, 23:59
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wow...a man who doesn't like uber-skinny women. wow.
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