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Subject: Rotoguru Gurupies

Posted by: wiggs - Sustainer [04991311] Tue, Apr 22, 2008, 22:34

we have a team. I will start sending out contracts now.

RebelFan
Sustainer
ID: 014833716
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 06:06

Ok so I found some of the numbers pertaining to our stadium and did some rough, uneducated calculations. Now I have never played this prior to now, so I don't know how reliable these figures to be, and I am by no means trying to attack anyone or make anyone feel stupid, just passing on some information I compiled.

Everything I have read, granted all non admins or moderators, so I am not sure how reliable the info is, has said that the 492,000 that we start with is just seed money. We will also pick up money through season ticket sales, and game day sales and concessions. Here are some numbers
Season tickets sold
100 % $2,515,200.00 Not bloody likely.
40% $1,006,080. Little more realistic.
25% of our regular seats and 15% higher end seats $592,320. Probably fairly attainable.

So that would leave us with possible game day ticket sale revenue
(first number season tickets sold second dollars per game third number season total)
100% $0 $0
40% $235,800 $1,886,400
25/15 split $300,450 $2,403,600

Since I not convinced we will sell out every game lets just ball park we sell 60% of all remaining tickets.
(first number season tickets sold second dollars per game third number season total)
100 0 $0
40% 141,480 $1,131,840
25/15 180,270 $1,442,160

So that brings us to a lower end expected ticket income of
100 $2,515,200.00
40% $2,137,920.00
25/15 $2,034,480.00

I also cruched some guesses as to hypothetical concession sales. Numbers based on an overall attandance of 70% at home games with guesses as to how many people would buy what per game. For sake of ease I just averaged the two beer prices to one. If anyone is curious I will give you the numbers I used, this post is longer than I origanally thought so I just skipped the numbers this time. So I came up with a total home game concession revenue of $109,488.75 per game. Over the course of the regular season that brings in $875,910, and brings our total season revenue to

100% $3,391,110.00
40% $3,013,830.00
25/15 $2,910,390.00

I have no idea what the other costs are, and I don't have numbers for them yet. All of these numbers could be for naught because I never got an offical answer from someone if the 492000 we have is seed money or season ticket money. Provided it isn't I think an overall salary of low to mid 30's would be doable. Obviously if that money is season ticket money then we could be in for a bit of a problem. Hopefully we can resolve this peacefully and get on to winnin some games.

Tree
ID: 59333234
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 06:38

letting the offers come in over night, they are all over the map, with the one for this team being on the low end, and others topping off at about 40,000 with a 10,000 signing bonus.

i just boosted to level 4, so i'm anxious to see what comes in now. i think NOT taking the first offers that come our way is beneficial to learning this game, although there was a nice one on the table last night with a decent team and an experienced owner that is apparently not there anymore.

i think someone on the other thread discussed the fine line, and that's obviously there. some of the offers you see are absurd, and you don't want to sign with a team where you will completely ride the pine, or one that will bankrupt it self, becase you'll end up in the free agent pool again.

Tree
ID: 59333234
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 06:44

in the 2 minutes since i pumped my post in the "players wanting teams" thread, i got 3 offers at my new level. the lowest is for 44,000 with a bonus of 2000, and the highest is for 48,000 with a bonus of 5000.

it is tempting to take one of those offers to see how other teams operate, as one of them is a 1-year deal. in a way, it's like acting as a spy, and i wonder if that should be part of our strategy of any of us can get decent 1 year contracts and try to be starters and boost our players even more to make the rotoguru team even stronger.

thoughts?

Cobwebs
Sustainer
ID: 058358241
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 07:25

I got 3 different offers for my level 4 CB, all the same, 21,520 with a bonus of 6,130, must be a standard offer. Also got a PM from an owner who was interested in signing my player, offering me a starting position and at the same time warning me for signing with teams offering high contracts who has to quit halfway through the season because they are going broke.

ferl
ID: 33352235
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 07:52

Hi Ppl,

just finished creating my DT Mean Machine. Do you have a place free for him in your roster?

Thanks
ferl

The Pearl

youngroman
ID: 2934823
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 08:44

ferl is a friend of mine, whom I told about this game and he found it fascinating.

I just did a quick analysis what one of my players (my WR, currently level 1 with 500 XP) would need in case to survive the next 2 years.

assumptions:
- on average I train one day Relaxed, one day Normal
- XP/day = 101-level on training days, (101-level)*2.5 on game days
- I don't boost my player, nor do I buy custom equipment

after season 1 my player will be at level 8. I need $7430 for training
after season 2 my player will be at level 14. I need $25940 for training (incl. season 1)

add to that that I will need some equipment and level it up at level 8. so I need some more cash:
5 * $500 to buy it
5 * $2000 (how much is the price?) to boost at level 8

for me:
$7430 + $2500 for a 1-season-contract = $10k (minimum)
$25940 + $2500 + $10000 for a 2-season-contract = $38.5k (minimum)

with boosting 3 levels each season:
$12380 + $2500 + $10000 for 1 season = $25k
$40635 + $2500 + $10000 + $40000 for 2 seasons = $93k

have I missed some expenses?

if we have a mix of 50% type A and 50% type B players we will need
20*10k + 20*25k = 700k in season 1
20*30k + 20*75k = 2100k in season 2

season 2 looks still ok for our team, but the tendency in season 3 looks like more than the 3 mil we may make a season.

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 08:50

One thing you all need to remember is you only train every other day. You dont pay for game days and you will still get paid for it.

I offered a signing bonus to pay for any equipment you might need- 4 pieces 500 dollars each piece.

you will have plenty of money and we can restructure deals if we are raking in money. Everything I have read told me to offer smaller contracts and use the rest of the money to buy more sections of the stadium so we could sell more tickets.

I will offer alittle more money in contracts, but there is no way we could possibly offer what you guys are asking. We would be bankrupt and out of the league within a year.

Just from a couple of you-

Doug 1000 a day and 5K signing bonus- 45000 a year
Tree-45,000 with 2k signing bonus- 47,000 a year
Barilko 1300 a day= 52000 and 15K signing bonus= 67K
Weykool- 1250 a day= 50,000 and 2K SB = 52,000
TB= 28,000 base and 20K signing bonus= 48K
DPR= 1200 a day= 48K +7K SB= 55K

That is 6 guys and over 300K we still need atleast 24 more players including
Myself at level 6 now
and a ton of level 4 guys

There is absolutely no way we will be able to keep a team together.

I just dont know what options we have.

barilko6
ID: 45320236
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 08:56

I gave into the temptation that Tree alluded to in Post 3 and took that offer. I actually feel pretty guilty about it! But...I think am going to create a second RB, which will be willing to accept a smaller offer.

There were many issues here, none of us know what we are doing, and as Tree said, being on a team for a year will give us each a lot of insight as to what needs to be done.

Also, the name of our team was a concern that I had also brought up a couple of times without reply.

The team I joined is an established AAA team who made the playoffs last year, and was financially sound enough to give me a very generous offer. I hope to learn a lot.

But as I said, I am open to creating a second RB with an almost identical skill set.

Cobwebs
Sustainer
ID: 058358241
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 09:00

The owner that offered me a starting position just got back to me with an offer, a 1 year contract, 46000 and a 7000 bonus on a BBB team. Sounds pretty good, but I told him that I had another offer and would decide today what I'll do, still waiting for an offer from Rotoguru Gurupies.

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 09:00

Ok, if one of you other guys that have bought a team want to run this thing please do so. I will trade you the players that have already signed with me and then I will sell this team.

If I dont hear from anyone within a couple hours I will just sell.

Good luck to everyone.

leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 09:08

I just joined the Gurupie team and bumped up my training to normal since it only depletes 1/2 my income per day. I also have enough flex points to boost 4 times (I know I can only boost 3 times in a season) and would like to know others' thoughts on when I should use these boosts (I can't yet, but when the season starts I am sure I can).

Tree
ID: 3533298
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 09:09

Wiggs -

don't give up so easily man. this is a learning experience for all of us.

one thing i think you are forgetting is that the money you start with is not the end of your money - as an owner, you make money over the course of the season through ticket sales, concession sales, and who knows what else.

barilko6
ID: 45320236
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 09:14

Agreed. Reading the forums, the season ticket money comes the first day of the season. It is not the starting seed money that you have already.

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 09:15

I just signed.
I'd really hate to see this thing fall apart.
Thought the idea was a gurupie team.

I'm kind of going into a holding pattern for now.
Don't have more time than to check and do what the Owner / GM want done.

Would really like to see us hold this together.

And I think we need to sort out how to control where we are from a level side with the players.

Just my $.02 from what I can see.

Cliff

Frick
ID: 23117516
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 09:26

Can deals be restructured? If so I don't think Wiggs offer is awful. Who do you trust more, a random manager who could have you at an extremely cheap salary by contract end, or a fellow Gurupie that has indicated the he will redo deals as we learn the game.

I would like to see us stick together if possible. I don't have any plans on paying to improve my player right now, but I can understand why people who do would need a higher salary to support their player.

I personally would rather be on a team where I know the manager might listen to me, versus a complete stranger who might tell me to go sit in a corner and bench my player.

leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 09:29

I agree with the last couple posts. In all honesty, I don't mind taking a lower offer than what I may make somewhere else, as I'd prefer to be on this team. $650/day seemed fair to me when I signed, as I can train on normal/intense interchangeably, and still end up in the +, particularly if what wiggs says is true about not costing money to train on game days.

Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 09:37

I accepted an offer from another team.
I have created another player for the same position.
I think we can still make this thing work.

This game is probably no different than any other game.
We have to find the right balance between several competing factors and a limited amount of resources.
If we skimp on salaries to build a great staduim it wont matter if we can only sell a limited number of tickets.
If we put too much money into players and we dont have a big enough staduim the team could be bankrupt in a short amount of time.
Perhaps the offers from Wiggs are too low.
However, it is very probable that some of the offers we have recieved are too high and we would be signing onto a sinking ship.
We need to put our collective heads to gether and come up with a plan.

Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 09:39

Buck Naked

Here is my new player.
Send me an offer.

Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 09:43

#8
What is the concern with the name?
Is it that we didnt get permission from Guru to use it?
Someone should contact Guru to officially get permission to use the Guru name.
However, I highly doubt he would have a problem with it.
This thread has been one of the most active threads on the entire forum and I would be shocked if he hasnt at least read a good portion of what is going on.

leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 09:56

I think the name concern is that if we have the name "rotoguru," opponents could come to this site to "spygate." I think it's a valid concern, but I am not overly worried about it.

Tree
ID: 3533298
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:02

i like WeyKool's idea.

i am going to create a second player - one for this team, and one to play around with other teams.

are we still looking for another WR?

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:04

i have resent out contracts to a bunch of you. I went with the formula of level * 200 and 1 year deals. Then we can try to do another contract next season. See what you think of that?

Seattle Zen
ID: 29241823
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:04

Don't abandon us, Wiggs. I joined because I liked the idea of having you run the team.

I don't understand y'all who are trying to get more $$ out of wiggs. Who cares how much cash we are paid, what matters is playing time and leveling up. If we need more $$ to buy equipment at some point, wiggs will renegotiate because it is in all of our interest. Let's play for cheap so we can create a great team.

barilko6 - post 8

I really don't think there is any sort of information that other teams could garner from these threads that would affect an outcome of a game. That's why your concerns met no response.

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:09

I will definately renegotiate if thats what we need to do. I just want to make sure we have enough money to keep the team

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:11

Kyle, email me when you get a shot.

Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:13

If someone really has the time to wade through all of the forums at the site and then come here to see what a AAA or BBB team is doing then more power to them.
In fact...offer them a huge contract we could use someone who is that into it.
I could see it if we make it to the pro league but I dont really see a concern about a lower level team like ours.

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:13

Don't worry wiggs your fearless GM is here to crunch numbers. I'll figure out how much we'll need to charge in ticket sales to break even and then how much we can afford based on our stadium size. Since it's the offseason the only $$ the team is spending is on signing bonuses. So I think we can still make this work.

Tree
ID: 3533298
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:14

SZ - it's not holding wiggs over a barrel. it's making sure you're paid enough to train at your level, so you can continue to improve.

Wiggs - not sure if this got posted, but there is now a FAQ on Finances for team owners...

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:16

It is going to cost about us to bring my player over too.

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:16

Is it true that there's a game every other day?

barilko6
ID: 3732117
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:16

re: 23

If you read over the forums on the Goallline site, there is a lot of talk about learning the defensive and offensive strategies of teams, and managers are using that to get a leg up on game times.

You have to understand that a lot of these managers are sadly investing 3-4 hours or more per day analyzing, setting stratgies and bird dogging their competition.

If they know their competition is going to be setting up a run first offense, they can swtich their defense to optimal counter attack to that.

I am not paranoid, but I do like to win.

C1-NRB
ID: 5932328
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:17

I'm cheap!

blue hen
ID: 30311814
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:18

I have 3 offers for around 10K a year. I assume my Gurupie offer will be better... if it ever comes.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:18

Exactly, if we are not paid enough, the team will stink because we will be outmatched every game.

From what I read, pricing of things is huge. If you overprice your tickets, you are sunk. Also, if your team stinks, you won't sell game day tickets.

barilko6
ID: 3732117
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:21

re: 26

We already have guys like Kyle, RebelFan, DPR, Tree, Me, etc, etc, etc, who are pouring over the forums getting info and hints and tips. I think we would be just as zealous when it comes to trying to get a win each game.

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:21

tree, good post, i hadnt seen that. I think my offers are pretty close to what they are suggesting on there. For example yours

level 4 +4= 8 *100= 800---- I offered you 800 exactly the same.

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:24

wiggs e-mail sent regarding contracts and how much cash we are spending.
What i forgot to add is since it's the offseason we arn't paying salaries until day 1 of the season. If we get $$ from ticket sales before we start paying salaries we are still in good shape.

youngroman
ID: 2934823
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:25

Michael Dawson (WR) just signed
Hugo "Hurley" Reyes (OT) is waiting for a similiar contract.

if we only need to train every other day these are the updated numbers. assuming we train Relaxed every other day until day 33, don't reach the playoffs and train Normal until day 40 (=17 days Relaxed, 7 days Normal)

1 season:
no boost: $4370 + equip + boost level 8
boost: $6530 + equip + boost level 8

2 season (incl season 1):
no boost: $13180 + equip + boost level 8
boost: $19365 + equip + boost level 8+16

3 season (incl season 1+2):
no boost: $26105 + equip + boost level 8+16
boost: $38095 + equip + boost level 8+16+24

this leaves me with the following salaries:
no boost: 2 years with $15k/year or 3 years with $29k/year
boost: 2 years with $35k/year or 3 years with up to $100k per year (depends on equipment boosting at level 24)

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:27

Also, there HAS to be more revenue out there. A lot of high offers I am getting are from GMs who ran a team last year. Why would they be paying so much to a lvl 3 if they couldn't cover it? I've rejected every offer under like 40K and still have 24 offers on my desk. Many are now saying PM me if you don't like the contract but we need you. I know I have my attributes public, but do they say this to everyone? Also, one of my rejected contract have come back to almost double his original offer.

Obviously, the whole reason to get into this is to have a gurupie team and represent the boards in this worldwide game. I'm also wondering though if I shouldn't make another player and learn from one of these other teams??? I don't want to but we really just stuck. I'm going to try to spend some more time on the forums learning.

Tree
ID: 3533298
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:28

Wiggs - i just got a nice offer from a GM/Owner who is very experienced, and has won some trophies. i am going to take it, in an effort to learn.

what positions do we still need? i will create a player now specifically for this team and that position.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:35

One owner just PMed me with this:

You want to focus on physical attributes first, and specail abilitieis last. and you want to focus on 1 tree first, not both. your play won't play up to his skill level for a while.

If you are willing to work with us building him up, I'm happy to make you an offer. You will get lots of PT, but you need to be active and work with us on allocation of the skill points. You will get enough $ to fully train and equip, and we will renegotiate you salary if you need more at any time. Let me know if interested. It is a new team, but alrady active and I'm not a new owner.

So here is what I think...Rather than the team going broke and we are all stuck on a team that goes under and dead for the rest of the season, what if we get reasonable salaries and at anytime we need more we get a boost. I mean there is nothing else to use your money but on training and equipment.

Some GMs are telling me to set my training to intense and offering me huge bonuses. I didn't know that I should have put all my points into attributes first. But these PMs are actually helping me a lot.

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:36

I am going to take over for wiggs as owner. We are going to trade players and cash to the "Indianapolis Blue Jays" which is my team that has yet to be renamed. If you are offered a contract from the Guru team accept it and you will be traded to the Indy team.

barilko6
ID: 3732117
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:41

I am agreeing with Ref and Tree. I am on a AAA team that made the playoffs last year, and through this I hope to learn a ton of stuff about how this game works.

I will also create a player for the Gurupie team and sign on the cheap, but seeing as how none of us really know what we are doing, I think gleaning information from successful teams and managers is pretty valuable.

Frick
ID: 23117516
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:45

Reading through the GM FAQ, it appears that in the past (only 1 season correct?) there was alot of leeway on teams that went into the red. I wonder how many of the owners that are making large offers were owners previously (given the demand for teams this year I don't think it is many.)

Another board that I frequent had some people that played last year, I didn't realize it was the same game until recently. Some of the threads that I read were people getting benched, or being grossly under paid and the owner not willing to renegotiate.

I'm in for the gurupie team, provided we make them 1 year contracts, I think we have enough dedicated people here to make this work, but we need to decide what our goals are, and what type of team we want to build. As long as the initial contract is enough for current equipment and max training, do we need to demand more, until we learn about the economics of the game?

Tree
ID: 3533298
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:45

Kyle - let me know what positions we need to fill, and i'll create a player.

i'm going to take my FB, Roderick Summers, to an experienced team to learn, but i definitely want to play on a gurupie team.

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:48

Sign 1 year contracts, right now Wiggs and TB are on other teams with 1 year remaining on thier contract. If you guys are still interested in joining this team though let me know. I am going to try and get offers out before 10:30 CST

Tree
ID: 3533298
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:50

i am signing a 1 year deal with this other squad.

like i said, i've got the flex pts to create a level 2 or 3 guy at another position (higher, depending on the position), so let me know what we still need on our gurupie team.

Little M
ID: 381111416
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:54

Kyle, make sure that the trade is relatively even. Some teams have been fined for making one-sided trades, especially when money is moving between the teams.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 10:56

I will create another player if needed. BUt I only started playing here because I wanted to play with the gurupies. If I need to join another team and recreate another player for a gurupie team, I will. I'll even create another CB. If my team isn't set up optimally yet, I'm going to need that extra cash to make it that way. I definitely want to be on a gurupie team though.

barilko6
ID: 3732117
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 11:01

I have just created another RB, Quick Williams, who will sign on the very cheap, and will be boosted up if the owner wishes.

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 11:02

Little M I am going to make it as even as we can. If we trade Level 4 players for players from our team and add an extra player for cash there shouldn't be any qualms about that.

Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 11:13

Before I go get on another team should I assume that we are only going with 1 kicker and Twarpy has the gig?

(not offended at all, just want to hop on another team).

If it matters I still have 15SP plus plenty of cash.

barilko6
ID: 3732117
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 11:13

Alright, I used all my referral FP to boost my RB up to level 4. I am assuming this boost still counts under season 1, because they wouldn't let me do my season 2 boost on my original guy yet.

I will probably drop a couple bucks to buy some flex points to boost my original guy, to keep my promise to my other owner.

But Quick Williams is now looking even better than my original Bill Barilko and is ready to take the rock to the house!

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 11:16

To my knowledge you have games every other day, and train EACH day. I'm not sure where you got that you do every other day Wiggs. In the playoff game I was in we played at 9am, we had trained at 2am that morning, and then trained at 2am the next morning.

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 11:20

If Twarp agrees to a contract then he has the gig. I'll get that one sent out right now. I have sent out a few. Accept them if you get them please?

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 11:20

Tree
ID: 3533298
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 11:24

come on Kyle, i'm itching to make a new player! LOL

what position do we need to fill?

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 11:26

Honestly, the offer I got for the Guru team was the lowest i've gotten from anyone.

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 11:26

Let me figure out what we have right now, we lost I think 4 or 5 players so...

Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 11:27

I can probably make a new player if we need a backup somewhere.

barilko6
ID: 3732117
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 11:28

I have already crafted a new RB who is ready to sign Kyle. (see post 50 for link)

Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 11:29

Ok, wow.

I posted in the forum to get the ball rolling incase I need a new team. I got 9 offers in under 1 minutes. LITERALLY.

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 11:31

Farn don't accept anything in case Twarpy doesn't sign.

weykool
ID: 2842717
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 11:32

Kyle send me an offer.

barilko6
ID: 3732117
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 11:32

Yeah, you leave a posting and you have a decent player you get tons of replies. I posted at a really early time when everyone should be sleeping and got mass offers.

Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 11:32

Yeah I'm waiting. I got 1 lowball offer and a few really good ones.

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 11:41

Ok i'm 50-50 on which way I want to go. The Guru offer i've got is 40-50% of 9 offers i've gotten, most of which are for 1 year themselves. Now I can create another player and boost to 4 right now also and help out Guru. Just kind of feel tied more to my other guy since he's been around longer and what not.

barilko6
ID: 3732117
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 11:51

Looking at the team rosters, we can keep some of the really cheap better CPU players as depth backups. Their contracts are dirt cheap.

Jack Hammers
Donor
ID: 236482918
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 11:53

I posted late last night and had 50 offers 50 messages within 15 minutes. Ronnie Boozer my Level 4 LB that drinks too much seems to be in great demand, Although it does look as if evryone who posts a player is in great demand.

I see alot desperation from the teams whining about no signings in those forums. All but a handful have told me I will start, many want to build their defense around this guy (new teams). Experienced team have offered to help me build him into a lunatic and give him alot of playing time.

Kyle I got your offer and my inclination is to sign here because I don't think anyone is going to work harder than the guys here at learning this.

I'm going to watch these offers for a while because I'm getting some helpful info from the messages attached. May re-pimp in a little while too. But my plan is to sign here,
if there's a starting LB spot available.

Is it just one team now or is their two, Indy and Rotoguru?

C1-NRB
ID: 5932328
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 11:56

I accepted the Indy BJ's (what?!) offer.

I'll expect a larger offer for next season, though, after I lead the team in tackles for loss and forced fumbles this year. :)

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 12:03

I just got the offer. It's actually the 2nd lowest offer out of the 60+ I've gotten. But again, as long as we can renegotiate as we gain. The problem is that at 650/day and the low bonus, we have to traind relaxed not to run out of cash. I'm also going to add this lvl if I can get one of these referrals to either log on or I can get one more.

barilko6
ID: 3732117
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 12:19

Quick question. Why are guys at the same level signing for different dollar amounts?

I see everywhere from $24,000 to $36,000 for a Level 4 guy.

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 12:28

Right now can I really turn down 62K for 1 year and a 5K bonus?

barilko6
ID: 3732117
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 12:30

Punk...just make sure its from a solid team. The offer I took was from an existing team that played through the year last year. I am guessing that a lot of these new teams are going to tank.

JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 12:32

I signed my other 2 players kyle. I dont care about the money I know it will work out.

weykool
ID: 2842717
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 12:34

I signed with team BJ.
I do hope that a name change is in the works.

Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 12:34

Whats the downside of taking an offer from a team that stinks? You still get the money right?

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 12:34

That's why i'm only looking at 1 year contracts, but can I really sign for 30K when i've got offers from 60-75K for one year? I mean making all that money sets you up for future seasons.

barilko6
ID: 3732117
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 12:39

I think if a team goes bankrupt you might not get monies owing, and you miss out on getting XP.

Not totally sure on that though.

Donkey Hunter
Leader
ID: 916288962
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 12:40

Basketball sim that is like this one but not as in depth.

First 9 people to join the team get on I guess.

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 12:40

Well you get the Bonus and all the money you've made to that date.

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 12:46

I offered minimum contracts for now. If you sign we can renegotiate the contracts once we see what we've got as far as a team, ticket sales, and all that jazz. I just want to get you guys some money for training, I know Kyle Nelson and Big Nelly are running low on funds.

Doug
ID: 321302615
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 13:14

I got an offer from Slackjawed Yokel team which I recognize as a Gurupie name... is that the one I should be accepting?

Doug
ID: 321302615
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 13:17

Yes, there's a game every other day in 40 day season (16 week reg season x game every other day = 32 days + 8 days for playoffs)

I don't think it's true that you don't train on game days, however. I know people talk on forums (who played season one) about training relaxed to regain 30 energy between games to get back up to 100 energy. You only get +15 for relaxed, so they must be training every day.

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 13:18

The Indy BJ's (kinda like the sound of that :-P) Are looking for:
A Name
An Offensive Coordinator
A Defensive Coordinator
A Fullback
A Defensive End
A Cornerback

Little M
ID: 381111416
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 13:18

Kyle's team is the Indianapolis Blue Jays.

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 13:20

Doug I sent you an offer from the Indy Blue Jay's. That's the one that we are forming.

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 13:24

Accepted your 1 yr cojntract Kyle, then levelled. So you just got a lvl 4 WR at a bargain. lol *shrug* Oh well, we're all learning here.

barilko6
ID: 180102816
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 13:31

Kyle, why is there such a huge salary difference ($10,000) in the amount that the level 4 guys are getting?

Tree
ID: 3533298
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 13:37

Kyle - i'm going to build a Cornerback for the squad. i'm heading to the gym in a few minutes, but i'll create him tonight, if that's cool.

RebelFan
Sustainer
ID: 014833716
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 13:39

Once you get signed to the team I would suggest changing your stat viewing to team members only. If we leave it on everyone it will just make it way too easy to scout our team

C1-NRB
ID: 5932328
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 13:41

Good idea. I just changed mine.

barilko6
ID: 180102816
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 13:42

re: 90: Come on, as if we believe you go to the gym.

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 13:42

I should be level 4 at any time. I'm getting big offers now. Wonder what another level will do??? The highest offer though has a bunch of CPU players on his team and I doubt I take it. Still 1400 a day and a big signing bonus looks nice. Make sure you delete your inbox as it maxes out at 50!!!!

Tree
ID: 3533298
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 13:43

Come on, as if we believe you go to the gym.

i didn't drop 35 pounds in the last 3 months by sitting on my ass eating Fritos like you.

barilko6
ID: 180102816
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 13:45

you can't even get Fritos up here in Canada, can you?

Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 13:45

I got an offer from a real good pro team for 1500/day and a 10k signing bonus. I really am tempted to take the 1 year deal.

Frick
ID: 23117516
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 13:46

People must be running scripts that look for new posts in the Players wanting Team area. I was curious what kind of offers I would get and I received 3 offers within 20 seconds.

Wait, let me update that, before I could finish typing my post I had more offers. The first offer came in at 11:31:21. By 11:33:53 I received 20 offers. Half of them state I am a guaranteed starter. Most of the money is fairly close to what I was offered by Team Guru, with Team Guru being on the low end, but not the lowest.

What was surprising was the offers included A, AA, AAA and BBB. Which is the top league and which is the bottom?

I did get an offer from a team in A that has 2M in cash. Granted they also have a level 8 and 7 OT, so I'm thinking I'll be riding the bench most of the season.

RebelFan
Sustainer
ID: 014833716
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 13:53

And if we are concerned about people scouting us over here because of our name, we are given a private team forum at GLB that can only be accessed by team members

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Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 14:10

RE 89: I don't see where you get the $10,000 disparity in contracts. Sarge's WR got offered his contract when he was level 1. Among the level 4 people I offered contracts to I offered between $700 and $800 a day. That's $4000 difference for the season, but as I said that is just a starting point. If you want to negotiate your contract now, before we figure out the amount of revenue we will earn from ticket sales, then sent me an e-mail and we can try to work something out. Once everyone signs thier contracts and everyone is happy with what they are going to get I will disclose the salaries of everyone. For now I will let you know that if you are a level 4 your salary was offered somewhere between $700 and $800 a day.
Feel free to shoot me an e-mail and we can discuss contract negotiations. I am also willing to take out a loan to try to get contracts settled, but that will be a last resort.

"I don't discuss contracts through the media" :-P

102

Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 14:12

come on Twarpy. I want to know if I should take my big offer or should I stay with my Gurupie mates. :)

103

barilko6
ID: 180102816
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 14:13

No, I am fine with my contract. Just was confused when I saw some LvL 4 guys making $26,000 and others making $36,000, with my offer being in the middle. (Not including Sarge's deal)

104

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 14:16

Ok I ended up taking a 1 year contract that would end up being 77K with the bonus. BUT!!! I will make a player and boost right now if you just let me know what position we need. That wy I can have someone on the guru team and someone on the outside.

105

Seward Norse
ID: 58082219
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 14:20

Coach/GM/Owner - If you ever want anything different out of me, just let me know. I'm just here to help win some ballgames, and I don't really care what I get paid (That may hurt me in renegotiations! :)

106

blue hen
ID: 30311814
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 14:26

I accepted a deal for Kyle's team. Looks like I am behind a CPU guy on the depth chart.

107

blue hen
ID: 30311814
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 14:27

I'm going to play hard nose, old fashioned football. I'm going to take things one day at a time, and the good lord willing, we can win a few ballgames. I'm just happy to be here and am excited to have teammates who share my passion.

108

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 14:31

RE 104: See post 85, it addresses team needs. We now also need a SS since Mr. Scotch took his skills elsewhere. We only have one SS.

RE 105: That's the kind of hometown discount player I like to have. If we have extra money left over you may see a nice little year end bonus.

RE 106: Baloo Henn will have to battle with Seward Norse and Krish Krish (if he accepts) but I am sure he will see plenty of playing time. That CPU TE won't be on the roster after today.

Just an FYI: we are still looking for Team Names, O-coaches and D-coaches. If you have a good name send it my way and if you want to be a coach just give me your (fake) resume. Super Bowl rings don't impress me, but onion rings do.

109

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 14:34

RE 107: I like the attitude this team is bringing. Now if we can sign Ronnie Boozer, the alcoholic, steriod using monster, this team might be good.

110

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 14:42

I just thought of this. If you are happy with your salary and want a bigger bonus we'll sign you to the Rotoguru Gurupie team and then trade you to the Indy BJ's. Please offer up a team name :)

111

Frick
ID: 23117516
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 14:51

107 wins the thread. Good job.

I accepted my contract. My hold out will begin tomorrow for a better contract.

112

JackHammers@work
ID: 44122616
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 14:58

Re 109 Ronnie Boozer has now been offered starting middle linebacker, 50k, 5k signing bonus and a 30 pack by the Oakland Plunderers, (figures), Ronnies young and stupid snd likes it, but I'm still holding out for this team.

Is there a starting LB spot available or are they gone?

113

leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 14:59

I am still on the Rotoguru Gurupies team. It says trade pending, so, I assume it will go through tonight???

114

dpr
ID: 1733917
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:06

if we have flex points to boost should we do so at the beginning or the end of the season? For me personally i think beginning makes sense as I believe I am the only WR to have boosted and having a level 7 could be very helpful. Also the way i am currently built I am likely lacking stamina and with the need for me to be on the field a lot I would like training points to put them in here.

Let me know what you think i should do. If I stay at level 4 then my current contract should be adequate for at least a good portion of the season. However if i boost i am going to need 10k within a week and I will only have 2k-3k. My daily salary also wouldnt cover normal training starting in a like 2 weeks. So if you want me to boost early I feel a larger contract would be best to get my player to perform best for the team mainly in the form of a bigger signing bonus

115

blue hen
ID: 30311814
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:07

That's a great idea. Sign to the Gurupie team and get a big bonus and then get traded to the real team. Brilliant. How do we do it.

116

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:14

I'll make a DE if that's what we need for the team. Let me know Kyle!

117

Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:14

On Kyle's advice I just took an absurdly high offer from a pro team that already has a stud kicker. I'm thinking I will get cut pretty soon and I'll have stolen a huge signing bonus.

If Twarpy decides to pass on the Gurupie offer I'll ask for a release and be ready to sign.

118

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:15

RE 112: Tell Ronny that he'll be a star in Indy, and he can finally say I play for the BJs with out getting arrested. Also he can hang out with the Jamal Tinsley if he comes to Indy. Tell him to check his offers again too. There may be an under the table deal with Indy.

RE 113: You are in the process of coming over in an 11 player deal. There are 2 11 player deals in the works by the BJ's.

RE 114: If you want to boost now go ahead, but it will cost you more to train and you will gain less EXP. I am holding onto my boost for certain part of the years, the final one being the playoffs.

RE 115: I have to release you. MWHAHAHAHA!
Honestly I only want to do that with unsigned people. What I want to do is trade CPU people for CPU people and cash for the Guru team.

119

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:16

Yeah Farn I had to go for the Bonus too, it was huge and is all up front. So even if i'm released after a week I would have made more.

120

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:16

Since we have 1 DE create away Punk!

121

Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:18

Yeah, I was thinking I'd be cut. I'm now noticing this top notch kicker has been inactive for 2 weeks. What's funny is my salary is much higher than his.

122

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:18

111 line 2...stole the thread from 107.

123

Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:21

Wow, the salaries on my new team are nuts. I am the 6th highest paid player on my team and many are multiple levels above me.

124

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:22

Just for fun what's your salary Farn?

Or what won't you be making for the Guru team?

125

Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:24

1500/day and a 10k signing bonus

126

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:25

Pendergast

Here is the DE I made Kyle.

127

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:25

That is rediculous. That's the minimum for a level 11 player.

128

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:26

Are we doing that Bonus thing with Wiggs team so we can buy equp?

129

Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:27

Yeah, I can't imagine he can afford to pay me that so hopefully I get cut and then the reduced pay from the Gurupies will be offset.

130

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:32

We'll renegotiate later with money we recieve from the Guru named team.

131

leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:33

Maybe I am not getting the salary thing as well as you guys, because I don't see the salaries being offered by the Guru team as restrictive.

My guy has signed for $650/day at level 4, with a $2k signing bonus. I can train on normal for $300/day (level * $75). So, I still make $350 per day, post training, based on this.

Now, from what I understand, you do not train on game days, so, on those days I make the full $650. but still get the benefit of playing and increasing stats, correct? If that's true, I can interchange between normal and intense training pretty easily, and still end up in the +, moneywise. Even if I boost three more levels this season, my Normal training cost should only be $525/day, which is still higher than my daily salary. It's not like I can boost 6-7 levels in one season, so, really, I am not able to go into the red, correct?

Am I missing something about how important the money seems to be cosidering the others who have jumped ship?

132

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:34

No you do train each day Legg.

133

barilko6
ID: 180102816
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:35

I just got offered a huge contract AND the starting GM job. It must be a huge player's market out there...lol

134

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:35

This is the money thing, each time you lvl up the cost of training goes up. Plus you have to buy equip for your player, which at lvl8 becomes $2500 to upgrade each piece. Also besides boosting the 3 lvls you gain EXP during the training and the games each season, so you could boost 3+say 5-7 lvl gains. So if you sign as a lvl 4 based on training you would be a lvl 10 at the end of the season and be loosing money on training.

135

barilko6
ID: 180102816
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:40

What the heck? You can also have a no trade clause included in an offer!

136

dpr
ID: 1733917
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:40

131- i think you can go 6-7 levels in a season if you get good palying time. I think there are players in the double digits after the first season so it is possible.

137

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:41

I believe i've seen a lvl 12 as the highest after season 1.

138

C1-NRB
ID: 5932328
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:46

The way I'm understanding it: You can BOOST yourself only 3 times per season. You can LEVEL UP with 1000 XP as many times as you reach 1000 XP.

Does that sound right?

139

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:49

Yes that is correct, and when you boost you don't loose your exp. So alot of people that were created around day 30 in season 1 will be gaining a level right at the begining of season 2.

140

Tree
ID: 3533298
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:51

i probably shouldn't build my guy at work, but what the hell...

Kyle - we still need a CB, right?

141

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:54

OK, see where I have been traded to IBJ.

Kyle,
Just let me know what you need me to do.

Cliff

142

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:54

Kyle how easy is it to restructure contracts, or give bonuses and stuff like that?

143

youngroman
ID: 3751268
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:55

this is what I have. Kyle, how many open offers are out there at the different positions?

open starting positions and possible Gurupie-owned players:
HB: Bill Barilko
FB: Roderick Summers
G:
CB: Digger Barnes, Speedy McPickster, Jon Stagnoski
SS: Larot Pintir
K: Franz Beckenbauer

additional depth needed:
QB?: Bigtime Passer
HB:
FB?:
WR:
G:
DE: Dr. Van Nostrand, Arthur Pendergast
DT: Bubba Extreme, Ferl "The Pearl" Toothless
LB: Ronnie Boozer
CB: Digger Barnes, Speedy McPickster, Jon Stagnoski
SS?: Larot Pintir

more available talent:
TE: Krish Krish
P: Lance Blankenship

144

JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:58

Tree from what I see I am the only Human CB on the Indy team right now.

On the rotoguru team there isn't any human cb, so I would assume yes we need a CB.

Kyle is going to be gone till around 6 he said. I have the ability to offer you a contract. Let me know when you create your CB tree and I will send the offer.

145

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 15:59

my LB was just traded to the team, he is level 5 but will be 9 after the 2nd day

146

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 16:00

Smash Mouth Jones (LB) was traded from RotoGurupies to IBJs.
Expect I will show up tomorrow.

Cliff

147

JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 16:00

actually tree I just checked and there are offers out there for 2 cbs.

Jon Stagnowski
Speedy McPickster

they both have not accepted yet though.

148

Doug
ID: 321302615
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 16:01

I'm just a little concerned about the salary/bonus... if I hit level 8 when I expect I'll be well short of the cash that I need (assuming I train as expected as well).

Can I get a commitment that I'll get like an additional $5k or so bonus when I hit level 8 so I can afford to upgrade my equipment?

149

JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 16:02

These are the offers that are currently out there right now, but have not been accpeted..

Jumbo Zaikov G
Touchdown Catcher WR
Ronnie Boozer LB
Bubba Extreme DT
Franz Beckenbauer K
Speedy Mcpickster CB
Bigtime Passer QB
Krish Krish TE
John Stagnowski CB
Larot Pintir SS
Arthur Pendergast DE
Quick Williams HB

150

Tree
ID: 3533298
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 16:03

it appears there is also only one human WR. i'd love to try one of the glamour positions, so if that's open, i would take that over a CB.

Serb - when you sort it out, let me know. i will create whatever is needed, although, i'd prefer not to be an offensive lineman or a FB...

151

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 16:06

If it's easy to give bonus's what if we had little milestone or game bonuses.

152

JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 16:08

For WR from what I can see.

Currently on team
Jimmy Jax WR

Offered Sent
Touchdown Catcher WR

Will be on team tomorrow after trade is processed
Michael Dawson WR

153

Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 16:12

Well I may have misjudged. He cut that other kicker so I'm the only one on that roster. I may not be getting cut.

154

Tree
ID: 3533298
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 16:13

so do we go with a three WR set? lol i don't mind being WR3

155

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 16:16

Well you are still going to roll in the dough for a season at least Farn.

156

JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 16:26

This is what I have

This is not a depth chart just listed who is at what position

Compiled from

Who is currently On the Kyles Team
Who is going to be traded to kyles team
Who Kyle sent contract out to.

So if all that goes through..

Offense
QB Joe Roto
QB Bigtime Passer
RB Quick Williams
RB
FB
WR Michael Dawson
WR Jimmy Jax
WR Touchdown Catcher
WR
TE Seward Norse
TE Baloo Henn
TE Krish Krish
T Big Nelly
T Gavin Alvesa
T Hugo Hurley Reyes
C Joe Jevdosic
C ID Mann
G Toussaint Louverture
G Jumbo Zaikov

Defense
DE Matt Legge
DE Buck Naked
DE Arthur Pendergast
DT Haya Griva
DT Joe McSack
DT Bubba Extreme
LB Wiggs
LB Smash Mouth Jones
LB Concho Renegade
LB Joe Punk
LB Ronnie Boozer
CB Joe Shutdown
CB Speedy Mcpickster
CB John Stagnowski
FS Kyle Nelson
FS David Shea
SS Larot Pintir

Special Teams
K Franz BeckenBauer
P Tucker Valentine

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PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 16:27

Signed up and in, more of a run stopping DE.

158

JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 16:29

There is a player I made that is a LB on kyle team named Joe Urlacher, but he was created so we could get wiggs on our team. He will be traded tomorrow.

159

barilko6
ID: 180102816
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 16:31

Hey, does anyone know when we do our boosts for season 2?

160

JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 16:32

when the season starts.. couple days im guessing

161

Tree
ID: 3533298
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 16:37

ok. i'm going to create a WR and take that last slot. may the position battles begin! LOL

162

Frick
ID: 23117516
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 16:40

From what I have seen if you boost early in the season you don't level as much in total. If you want to boost until later in the season you gain levels faster (more exp per game played) and save the boosting for right before the play-offs. I'm not sure which is the better bet overall.

I would like to see people take reduced salaries now. Assess the economics of our stadium and team, and then restructure everyone's contracts as needed. I don't want to see anyone losing money on training, or not have the funds to buy equipment upgrades, but there also isn't any sense in bankrupting our team before the season starts.

Looking at some of the offers I received, if they offered similar contracts to all of their players they were going to have some major cash crunches, unless they were selling out their stadiums and make it deep into the play-offs with home field advantage. But I could be wrong, without knowing how the economics work it is all guess work.

It appears that our owner/GM are taking a conservative approach to contracts. Hopefully we make money as a team and can spread that money around to the players so we can continue to train.

163

JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 16:43

That's exactly the plan Frick.

164

leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 16:46

Thanks to everyone for responding to my salary questions. I am now holding out...jk, but it does make more sense to me.

165

JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 16:47

Need to know from the following player if you are going to sign or not so we can plan accordingly.

Quick Williams
Jon Stagnowski
Larot Pintir
Krish Krish
Big Time Passer
Franz Beckenbauer
Speedy McPickster
Ronnie Boozer
Bubba Extreme
Touchdown Catcher

166

Little M
ID: 381111416
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 16:49

Minimum roster size is 40, so we can add 2 positions to the list in post 156.

167

weykool
ID: 2842717
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 16:54

In one of the threads I was reading they were talking about requiring teams to have a minimum # of human players.
I think the discussion was something like 40-46 but was not set.

168

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 16:59

Got out of the boss's office early and to school before class so I am able to get on at school (I love being able to get my Guru ID where ever I go so you know it's me :D)

JTSerb: Thanks for running the show while I am gone. E-mail me any contracts you offer so I can throw them in my spreadsheet.

RE 162: Thank you Frick for understanding what I am trying to do. If I bankrupt the team after day 1 I'll be very sad and will disappoint my mentors Mr. Jim Irsay and Mr. Bill Pollian. I echo everything that came out of Frick's post to a T. I can only hope that everyone gets on board for that plan.
That said I am obviously not following the Colts model since we have 5 LBs, 4 who are level 4 or higher. I am making an executive desicion and saying we are running a 3-4 if possible. We have 3 DTs and 5 LBs, it only makes sense I think. Tell me if I am wrong.

Barilko, I am sending you a message back. Tree, glad to see another skill position is being added.

FYI we only have 1 RB and 0 FBs. I am not opposed to not having a starting FB, but we should have one if we want to run a power set at some point. If we don't have 1 FB, I say someone creates a RB who is bigger in build for a backup. I know that the size doesn't matter, but keep creating until you get one, it won't cost you anything until you boost him.

169

Little M
ID: 381111416
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 17:00

I will get my friend to accept the offer for Bigtime Passer tonight.

I have been holding off on accepting the Bubba Extreme offer, because he has received quite a few offers for almost double the IBJ offer. I have the same concerns as Doug in post 148 about not having enough cash when I reach level 8 to upgrade the equipment. If some commitment was received about receiving a bonus on reaching level 8, it would help.

170

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 17:03

I am Jon Stagnoski.

I've been PMing with a guy who had a winning team last year. Been asking a bunch of questions etc. He said that my offer isn't enough to make a competitive player at my level. He talked about how I need to add and where and how much cash I am going to need for DAILY training and to buy equipment with added attribute gains. Also, at each level training and equipment is more expensive. In fact many of the things that has been said in this thread. Also since I trained some abilities before I maxed my attributes out, he is telling me what I need to do to get those attribs up and that's going to cost some cash--but I'll be far better than others at my lvl because I already have the abilities.

I didn't create a team to take the highest offer, I made the team and helped recruit others to play with the gurupies. Just want to make sure we're not going to shoot ourselves in the foot by not having enough cash to create a nice team.

171

JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 17:03

Kyle, there is no 3-4 option right now im pretty sure :(

They said they are looking to implement it soon though.

172

Tree
ID: 3533298
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 17:04

Kyle - i'm preferring not to be a FB, because the other guy i created is one, and i'd like a variety.

that being said, should i hold off until tonight to create someone, and if there is no FB, i won't do a WR and will instead do a FB?

or do we need that WR anyway?

173

JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 17:05

I cannot speak for Kyle as he is the owner of the team, but as a GM/Head Coach I can tell you that we will work with each and everyone of you to ensure that you do not run out of money to train or buy equipment.

174

JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 17:09

Tree it would be fine if you created a WR. 2 that we have are a level 4. the other one is a level one.

I assume you would be boosting so I am guessing you would be at a min of #3 wr.

Do you agree Kyle?

175

C1-NRB
ID: 5932328
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 17:12

I'll do a self-referral tonight when I get home to create a FB from another computer. I'll post his info here when I do.

177

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 17:14

There will be a performance based bonus at level 8. We can renegotiate contracts as soon as tickets are being sold so we know what to expect in income, but there will be no bonus offered to the increase in salary. The bonuses at level 8 will only be cash bonuses and not a salary increase, unless it is absolutely deemed a necessity. I will work with you throughout the season if you need money for training, but if you are training on intense everyday and coming to me once a week saying I blew through the money, and I didn't have enough energy to play a whole game, then you are out of luck.

I don't want to seem like a hard ass or anything, it's just what I feel will be best for the team.

178

C1-NRB
ID: 5932328
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 17:16

For housekeeping purposes, our next thread should probably be in the "Simulated Sports Forum" where the basketball team thread is.

179

Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 17:18

JTSERB--

I think that is the perfect answer. The most important thing is having a good team and not running out of money before the season ends. We definitely don't want to have a ton of cash left on the team and suck. It's amazing how many offers are still streaming in.

180

Donkey Hunter
Leader
ID: 916288962
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 17:21

Join the Rotoguru Gurupies basketball team

Password is randro

Games start tonight! Only two players on the team right now. We need to fill all 10 spots to be competitive. Training takes a little bit of time in the gym so get there early!

Had to correct the link

181

youngroman
ID: 3751268
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 17:29

I see 2 players not yet offered contracts:
DT Ferl "The Pearl" Toothless (Level 2)
P Lance Blankenship (Level 4)

not sure if we need a 2nd punter, but depth in the defense line is always good, as long as we need to start 4 of them. I also think that we should at least have 3 RBs or 2 FBs to get some running game going and not end up one-dimensional.

182

C1-NRB
ID: 5932328
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 17:36

We aren't going to have a run-and-shoot (yourself in the foot) offense?

183

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 17:38

I'll send a message to Blankenship that we don't need him but if he wanted to create a backup RB or FB he's welcome to join the team.
Where is Ferl the Pearl? I love his name, and the depth he adds.

184

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 17:40

I've got enough Flex Points to create a FB when I get home tonite if we still need one.
Just let me know.

Cliff

185

Tree
ID: 3533298
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 17:41

"Sweet 'n' Sour" Jimmy Briscoe is ready to accept a contract offer.

the 6'4 LVL 3 possession receiver will have a photo up tonight...

186

Twarpy
Leader
ID: 386242821
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 17:41

So $750 a day for a kicker is the norm? Just curious as thats what your offer to me was and making sure this is the one I should be accepting.

187

Twarpy
Leader
ID: 386242821
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 17:42

I was planning on leveling up three levels too if this has any basis in the salary, have been real busy at work lately and haven't been able to keep up with the threads, but I seem to have a lower salary than most.

188

blue hen
ID: 30311814
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 17:44

I told Blankenship he didn't make the cut. He cried for hours. He also said he was going to sign with another team and stuff it down our throats. He also said you guys are asses, but we already knew we're asses.

189

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 17:44

Twarp, what I offered will be negotiable once we find out how much we are making in terms of ticket sales. I am just trying to get players on the team right now and then we'll find out soon what we get in tickets.

190

youngroman
ID: 3751268
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 17:47

Ferl is a friend of mine. He is a big fella with his 6'6" at 340lbs. Ferl is training to be a first-class run-stopper and kick some serious ass. I am sure he is currently stopping by at a local Hooters to get some burgers and more.

191

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 17:51

Wow my CB's team has set up a 20 slot Ventrillo for talks on the team.

192

blue hen
ID: 30311814
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 17:52

What the hell does that mean?

193

Little M
ID: 381111416
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 17:58

Kyle, why don't you give Ferl the Bubba Extreme spot in the roster and I will accept one of my other offers. If you plan on running a 3-4 when it is available, it will impact on my playing time, since we already have 2 DE. Signing with another team will give Bubba more cash and more experience. I already have one player on IBJ, so I still feel part of the team and can see the tactics that a different owner/GM use. I would only sign a one year contract, so could sign with IBJ next year, if you want me.

I will wait a few minutes, in case you have any comments.

194

JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 17:58

Offer sent tree

195

Donkey Hunter
ID: 4341818
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 17:58

I think it means that none of his teammates have girlfriends.

196

Little M
ID: 381111416
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 17:59

That should be DT, not DE.

197

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 18:11

Ventrillo is an online Voice Chat program. I cracked up that they had set one up for it to "Hash out the game play".

198

Twarpy
Leader
ID: 386242821
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 18:57

So what was the consensus of levelling up now that I am locked into a contract?

I am all for training on relaxed and with my referral points could level up 3 levels but am looking for instruction here. I understand the argument that it will be cheaper and more efficient to upgrade later in the season, but what is the team goal to win now (level up before our first game)? Win in years down the line (wait till end of year to level up)?

199

dpr
ID: 1733917
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 19:21

I am going to accept the offer I have but I also plan to boost early in the season to fix some holes in my build (and secure my spot on the depth chart) since I will be boosting I will hit level 8 early and will likely need 6k+ to buy equipment. Can I get some comment that i should receive this?

Also in terms of training relaxed versus normal does anyone know a thread that talks about at what energy we need to go to relaxed and at what point we can maintain normal? or does someone just know? obviously I would prefer to train normal as much as I could and hope my salary can be adjusted if that can't be met (significantly down the line)

200

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 19:40

Well it's +15 Relaxed or +9 Normal. So you could gain 30, 18, or a mix of 24 points en between games depending on how you trained.

201

dpr
ID: 1733917
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 19:42

well how much do you go down? what do you want to start each game at? How big is the loss if you start lower then ideal?

Does anyone else find it annoying how many clicks it take to get to your players page?

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JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 19:58

RE 198 Wait on that Twarpy, haven't decided which direction yet. Until the rosters are filled for us and the rest of the league it is hard to gauge on how well we think we will perform.

203

leggestand
ID: 41312318
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 20:01

DH 195 - Hahahaha, I seriously don't laugh much when I read posts, but that was perfect.

204

Twarpy
Leader
ID: 386242821
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 20:09

Nashville looks like they could be dangerous in our conference

205

Jimmy Briscoe
ID: 143482317
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 20:10

signed and sealed, Sweet 'n' Sour says give me the damned ball!

206

Tree
ID: 143482317
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 20:11

pardon him, he's a receiver with a mop top and a big mouth.

i'm going to take him shopping for equipment now.

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Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 21:24

Tree: check you PM's

208

JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 21:30

Kyle if you are around sign onto gmail...

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JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 21:33

We are still looking for a Offense/Defense cordinator.

Also would like to add a scout.

These are possibly the most important positions for us.

210

JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 21:39

Anyone any good at graphics?

I think it would be pretty cool if we could get out team colors and have someone make a jersey so we each can have one with our name on their uploaded in our picture

211

dpr
ID: 1733917
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 21:43

I could maybe do one (likely offense as that is what I play) but could i get an overview of what needs to be done and time needed per day week watever

212

C1-NRB
ID: 551212915
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 22:29

Here's my Fullback.

Toulousse LeMoose

He spent some time in the CFL.

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Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 22:34

dpr can I get a commitment from you to be the offensive coordinator? And someone else to be defensive coordinator? And we could use a scout to help out the coordinators and JTSerb (the head coach) I will try to help scout teams that are coming up, but really I'll be focused on the money situation.

The job of the coordinators would basically look at the opposing team, figure out where their strengths and weaknesses are and then game plan and let the head coach know what the game plan against the opposing team should be. It could take 30 minutes a game day to 4 or 5 hours however in depth you want to get. Scout would do the same as the coordinators, but do it for both sides of the ball. Scout and coordinators would need to at least exchange thoughts via e-mail during game day.

Shouldn't be too hard but would need someone to spend at least 30 minutes a game (15 minutes a day) looking at the opposing team for that day/next day.

214

dpr
ID: 1733917
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 22:39

yea i guess i can do it tho i am not exactly sure what I am getting myself into but I should have the time. Like if I am out of town is it easy to substitute someone into my place?

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JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 22:41

Yea, should be no prob if out of town DPR.

All members of the staff will pick up the slack.

216

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 22:42

dpr I'll name you a GM but give you offensive abilities only.

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JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 22:42

It shouldn't be much though. You would just scout our opponet's weakness and strengths.

IE: You see our opponets D is really weak against the run, and can be exploited up the middle etc etc. You would gather that info and send it to me.

218

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 22:45

I could do the be the Defensive Coordinator if needed. But i've gotta get to bed right now for an early morning.

219

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 22:45

I really doubt that I'd have the time to do the Defensive Coordinator job, but I'd be willing to help out when I am available.

Cliff

220

dpr
ID: 1733917
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 22:50

Ok that doesnt sound too bad. have to look to see how I learn all that information but I guess is easty to learn. Also how customizable are our tactics? Do I or someone else deal with depth charts and our use of the bench? Im sure in a few days all these questions will be simple answers

221

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 23:04

DPR to answer your questions:
1. The game plan is VERY customizable. I don't even want to put how much we could change. Let's just say it's A LOT.
2. JTSerb (head coach) and I have control over depth chart. Wiggs (GM) can if he wants, but he should probably consult JTSerb before changing something.

Cliff, if you want to scout other teams talk with dpr and JTSerb. I'll let them handle scouts and how they want to deal with scouting reports.

Punk, great! Thanks for offering to be D-Coordinator. Hopefully tomorrow you'll be able to let us know yes or no. If not we'll happily take you as a scout

222

C1-NRB
ID: 551212915
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 23:07

I might be able to scout. Pencil me in for now.

223

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 23:21

Also a very important note:

We currently have only 1 backup D-linemen. We also only have 2 backup DBs (If Doug and Toral sign, and not counting JTSerb, a KRer) and 2 backup O-linemen. We could use 3 or 4 more people.

224

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 23:50

Also according to the numbers I've crunched I believe we are going to be in good shape for the year and next year monetarily. It all depends on ticket sales. My numbers are based on averaging 85% ticket sales per game. I don't know if that's too lofty. Hopefully we have something like 25% season tickets.

If someone knows what to expect in terms of ticket sales please let me know. I am done for the night though. Hopefully Doug, Toral and Jackhammers check their players and sign their contract offers. If you have their e-mails or IMs let them know they have contract offers. Thank you for your enthusiasm guys!

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Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Apr 23, 2008, 23:58

I'll prob make a backup DLineman. Going to study what I would need to work on before I make him.

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GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 00:05

When we get a good feel for where we are at player-wise, figure out what we need and let me know and I can make what we still need.

Cliff

227

dpr
ID: 1733917
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 00:06

I looked at the tactics options that i now have. Are these the only things that i have to consider?

Also I am not sure what factors to use to decide on some of them. For example short pass medium pass long pass I assume we use our team the factors are QB accuracy (short) Strength (long) and then our TE and backs vs WR for short vs long maybe? Also would possession receivers mean short and fast ones mean long? Also in analyzing the defense do i assume that weak corners and safeties means go long and weak LB means go short? That jsut one setting there are others too I am not sure I get the details on. Are there answers here or is it just feel?

228

Doug
ID: 321302615
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 00:26

Was out all day but I appreciate posts 173/177... kinda like Ref said, don't want to shoot ourselves in the foot by spending ourselves to death, but don't want to shoot ourselves in the foot by short-changing our training. The assurance that we can get assisted on level 8 equipment when that time comes is helpful... and makes sense cash-flow wise for the good of the team. I don't need the cash "now", I just need to know it'll be available (within reason) when the time comes, and this seems to be a fair middle ground reached for us all.

229

Doug
ID: 321302615
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 00:51

Offer accepted, player upgraded. 30 speed now... go Speedy go!!!!

230

Doug
ID: 321302615
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 01:14

Several teams in our league look like they'll be non-CPU level 4-ish squads, although a lot of them have at least one player in the level 5-7 range at a key position like QB/HB/WR/MLB. I think I saw one level 8 QB as well.

231

RebelFan
Sustainer
ID: 014833716
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 04:03

Willing to help the team out however I can. I haven't seen a schedule yet, so that makes scouting a little difficult, but I am sure it will be posted up shortly. Quick questions for the coach, or D coordinator. What direction would you like Joe Punk to devolop. Pass rusher, Cover LB, or equally balanced. Just let me know so I can focus future points in those directions

232

youngroman
ID: 2934823
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 08:05

if we are still in need of a DL, Ferl "The Pearl" Toothless is still unsigned. he would battle Joe McSack for heaviest player on the team and would team up with him to stop all opposing runs for a loss of yardage. opponents will be forced to run outside.

our team chemistry is a bit low today. our players better start some team-building events. where is Ronnie Boozer when you need him?

233

barilko6
ID: 29345246
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 08:57

Quick Williams just bought everyone on the offensive line a Rolex to celebrate his joining the team because that is what Quick Williams does.

Quick Williams also wants to let the O-Line know that he appreciates all the blocks they plan to give for Quick Williams and Quick doesn't want that to go unnoticed.

Quick also plans to take the whole team bowling to boost that chemistry, Quick Williams style.

234

Great One
ID: 233541511
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 08:59

Chris Hero is a hot TE prospect I hear.

235

GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 09:17

I think Ronnie Boozer and Smash Mouth were out on the town the better part of the nite.
At least they avoided the local cops.

Smash Mouth is ready to buy equipment and boost as required.
Just let him know what you want.

A real team player that guy.

Cliff

236

Frick
ID: 23117516
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 09:21

I have to admit that without ever playing a game I've gotten great enjoyment out of this entire game. Posts like 233 and 235 are great.

Are we going to put a pool together to see which player can father the most children? Or is that not part of the game?

237

Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 09:30

*****Attention*******

Tree and I have decided we are going to try to fill the team that I was able to purchase.
The purpose of this team will act as a farm team to the main Guru team.
If you have an extra player and need the playing time anyone who signs up will be guaranteed to start.
Our focus will be more on getting players who are level 1 and 2 trained and less on winning.
Im not sure if there will be requirements for minimum players on the main team but if we have players who are not at the top of the depth chart it might be better in the long term to have them get more experience on another team.
The team name is RGB (Rotoguru B team) Berzerk.
Post a link to your player here and we will offer you a contract that will be sufficient to get your player to whatever level you will need to be at.
Keep in mind this team will be in place to complement the A team not to compete.

238

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 09:37

Good idea! Me and Twarpy made complementary Wide Receivers...

No One (J)

Some One (Twarpy)

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Tree
ID: 3533298
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 09:48

I have to admit that without ever playing a game I've gotten great enjoyment out of this entire game. Posts like 233 and 235 are great.

no respect for 205?!?! daaymn. Sweet 'n' Sour may have something to say about that!

Chris Hero is a hot TE prospect I hear.

does he have a link. if he's a free agent, RGB Berzerk might be looking to sign him.

240

Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 09:49

Kyle/JT I need you guys to let us know what your player requirements will be.
Tree and I will hold off on sending any offers until tonight so you guys can look over your roster to make sure you dont need the players we will be signing.

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Jumbo Zaikov
Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 09:55

man dis here roll-ex looks perty friggin sweet rite here on mine arm. Yeee hawwwwwww. Thanks thar quick!

242

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 09:59

Good idea Weykool. Just a heads up if Ferl the Pearl signs we still have only 2 backup D-linemen. Currently we also have only 3 Corners. I like running a 3-4 or 4-3 as much as the next guy, but we still need to be able to run dime coverage.

Toral and Jackhammers, please accept your contracts. I realize that Ronny Boozer may have taken Larot Pintor out on the town, but they still need to sign.

In regards to our low moral, I think it has to do with 2- 11 player deals last night. The Gurupies and the BJs were busy trading yesturday.

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barilko6
ID: 3732117
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 10:00

Jumbo, Quick Williams gave you that watch so you know that Quick Williams always has time for you. And if things get busy, Quick Williams will make time, Quick Williams style.

244

Little M
ID: 381111416
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 10:01

Just be very carefull about this farm team idea. It is something that is a very hot topic at GLB. I wouldn't want us to lose our team, because we got too creative. These are some warnings that have been posted on the forums:

"If you perform a series of trades with the express purpose of depleting one team to build up another, your team could be fined or taken away."

"I will be adding an update to trading that will no longer allow you to trade cash between two teams that you own. It will only allow players to be transferred. This will affect GM's as well - they will not be able to trade cash between two teams if the teams are both owned by the same individual. Yes, there are still ways around it by colluding with other players, but you will run the risk of losing your teams."

245

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 10:02

Just about to make a 2nd player Kyle. What position would you prefer him to be? (Sounds like DB, or maybe DL...but let me know and I'll build a "specialist"..ie pass-rusher or run-stuffer as desired as a DL or if the DB then either an INT specialist or a Ronnie Lott hard-hitter type.)

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J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 10:04

Little M - I don't think we'd need to worry about trading between the farm team. We just all get 1 yr contracts for the minor league team, and get promoted in the future if necessary.

247

Frick
ID: 23117516
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 10:04

I apologize to post 205 and all of the myriad of others in the 800ish posts that have been made in the last week.

Do we have a direction that we are heading in regards to offensive style? I'm not planning on adding to my special talents right any time soon, but it doesn't make sense if half of the line is run specialized and the other half if pass speciallized. Unless we swap out the entire line to capitalize on an opponents weakness. Would a team have enough rosters slots to use that type of strategy?

248

Big Nelly
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 10:07

All you boys need to come on down to our farm this weekend for some strength training and team bonding. We can bail hay and just have a rootin' tootin' good time. Did I mention I have 7 sisters? No Ronny, you can't marry all of them.

249

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 10:13

RE 240: Thanks for holding off. What I am thinking that we need is a backups on the defensive side of the ball. All 3 locations could use some more, but clearly we need DBs. 2 more (SS and CB) would be ideal. Also a back up RB. We only have 1 HB on the roster, but that can be fixed by getting a CPU guy on the RotoGuru team to come over.

RE 247: JTSerb and I were talking about this. We have somewhat of a run block line. I'll let our Offensive Coordinator and Head Coach decide those things with Quick and the O-line.

250

Jack Hammers
Donor
ID: 236482918
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 10:14

Ronnie Boozer was arrested in Oakland Wednesday night along with a small group of the Oakland Plunderers after stealing a car tearing up a strip club near the airport.

He has since been bailed out by Smash Mouth and Ronnie's Mom (Mrs Boozer) who swatted him in the back of the head and put a pen in his hand.

Early this morning it is rumored he turned down all offers from the Oakland Plunderers and signed with one the teams from the Rotoguru franchise

251

Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 10:16

We are not going to trade any players to the main team.
We will sign them to 1 year deals and then they can sign to Guru as FA.
The important thing will be that they get PT and can level up quicker.

252

barilko6
ID: 3732117
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 10:17

Re 248:

Did Quick Williams hear "bail" and "bonding" in the same breath? Quick Williams has gotta go...

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Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 10:18

Ronnie, I will trade for you only if you get into a mentoring program with one of our O-linemen. I recomend either Toussaint Louverture or I D Mann.

Wiggs, I sent you an e-mail.

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GoallineBlitz News
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 10:28

Breaking News: Hearing of Mr. Boozer's arrest last night the RotoGuru Gurupies have cut the troubled linebacker. When asked for comment the GM of the Gurupies said that he didn't want any funny business on his squad and wanted a robotic like team.

Word is that Mr. Boozer has been offered a contract to play for the Indianapolis Blue Jays. The Blue Jays are a team full of characters and are poised to make a run at the USA A #8 League championship.

In other news the Blue Jays are looking for a NEW TEAM NAME. The Name-that-team competition has yet to recieve any entries.

255

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 10:35

I don't know about team names, but I think the Black "R" with the Yellow background in rotoguru needs to be our logo.

256

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 10:35

Out of "U Can Do It JUCO", introducing Bubba Watson, DT. 6'4" and 320 lbs of run stuffing Nose Tackle.

Bubba Watson

Bubba dont read so good, but he likes to hit things. (Preferably things with a football in their hands)

along with is team-mate U R Myne, a developing Cover Corner standing 6' 2" and 200 lbs.

U R Myne

257

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 10:46

OMG! Offersd are POPURING in for those 2 Defenders I just buiilt. Posted on the "Players looking for teams" forum, and when I hit post and then "Home", inbox has 6 in it...lol

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Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 10:47

DPR, how much you like the Guru Team? I just got a trade offer for Touchdown Catcher

From Cincinnati Convicts on 2008-04-23 17:21:29
My Players
Touchdown Catcher
Lv. 4 WR

For Their Players
Francis McDonough (CPU)
Lv. 3 WR
+ $30000 in cash considerations

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Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 10:48

Sarge one of those are mine.

260

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 10:52

Logo Complete. If only we had a good team name...

261

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 10:52

good gawd...make it 26 offers. roflamo

High bid so far, for both:

$725/day with an 8k signing bonus for a 1 yr contract.

Think I might take that offer (same team offering the same for each player) Would give them some "money in the bank" and a yr to develop via practice-playtime.

Thoughts???

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J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 10:59

Alternative jersey logo - the rotoguru light bulb :)

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Frick
ID: 23117516
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 11:00

Re: 261

I'm probably going to create a 2nd player in a couple of days for RotoGuru JV team. My plan is to not boost until the end of the season. Since I should be able to get plenty of playing time, I will level fairly quickly during the season and maximize the value of my boosts at the end of the season. If you sign with another team, are your guaranteed to get playing time if you don't boost immediately?

264

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 11:01

Sarge we do need your corner for this year. You'd be the nickle back so you'd see play time. We have 3 backup D-linemen if we play a 3-4, 2 if we play 4-3, so we could survive if he signs elsewhere, but if you are going to sign with a team sign with the developmental Guru team.

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Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 11:02

RE 262: I can do that for the Guru JV squad. I think I am going to make a QB for the JV squad.

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J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 11:05

Dumb question...do we need Guru's permission to use these things?

267

barilko6
ID: 3732117
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 11:08

As for a name suggestion...I would still move away from referring to RotoGuru within our primary team name.

What about the Canadian Canuckleheads! We are all from Canada here right? haha

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sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 11:09

re 264...Kyle, I had EVERY intention of signing with your squad when I built the guy. But cripes...I cant see declining and extra several hundred/day and 7k in signing bonus. The 2 defenders would both be FAs next year, and be at LEAST lvl 6 I'd think. (Earn 3 or 4 via play/practice and then boost 3 with Flex Points). With the apparent cost of gear at higher levels, I'm not sure I can "afford" to not "show me my money" when the difference is that much.

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Tree
ID: 3533298
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 11:12

since it's the A team...

RG A-Team
RG A-holes
RG Apes
RG Abba Hey Gabba Hey!
RG ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYandZ

err, yea.

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Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 11:16

Sarge: E-mail sent. Check your inbox

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Frick
ID: 23117516
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 11:22

Re: 268

Does it make sense to take the extra money and using it to train hard. What is the worst that can happen, the team goes bankrupt and you become a FA?

Would the Rotoguru B team be willing to take you on mid-season? I assume so, but if they aren't fielding a competitive team will the team be making enough money to offer a high enough salary to cover your training costs?

272

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 11:22

Re 269: Back to the drawing board...

Still waiting to hear back from JackHammers and Toral regarding their contract offers, once they sign I will post our roster on here so we can see really easy what we have in terms of people, not CPUs

273

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 11:25

Also I sent an e-mail to Guru just to make sure we could use the R. He's been quick to respond in the past regarding RIFC, so hopefully he is as quick in this trivial matter.

274

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 11:25

sorry guys, but I took the offer from New Orleans for both. 755/day and an 8k signing bonus for a 1 yr contract followed by FA, is just TOO much to decline as a lvl 1. It puts money in the bank for CERTAIN, to cover future training costs.

275

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 11:27

Sarge, train on hard so you get the most out of that contract.

276

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 11:34

I was just thinking the same thing Kyle. :)

277

Little M
ID: 381111416
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 11:44

RE posts 199 and 201.

They have changed the formula for energy for this season, so no one knows exactly how it will work. You start the season with energy of 100. The maximum energy that you can lose in a game is 40. The maximum you can regain between games is 30, so if you lose 40 in the first game and train on relaxed to regain 30, you will sart the second game at 90. Obviously, if you keep losing more during the games than you are recovering between games, you will keep starting at a lower energy level. The amount that you lose during the game, depends on your stamina and the amount that you play during the game. I think there are also small changes made depending upon what you do on the play (eg: a WR will lose more energy if he runs a deep route and less if he stands there watching a running play).

The key is for the coach to set the roster depth and the sub-out/sub-in perameters to a level where you are not losing more than 30 energy points per game. From what I have read, a ratio of 60/80 worked well last year for teams with a lot of depth and players with decent stamina, but as I said earlier, the formula has changed for season 2. This year will take some guess work at the start and probably some tinkering during the early part of the year to get the ratio right.

278

Little M
ID: 381111416
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 11:46

Admin announcement: Season 2 games will most likely start on Saturday.

I can try to help out on scouting and covering for people when they are busy if needed.

279

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 11:56

Currently I have the energy to sub in and out at 75-90. I want to get everyone as much EXP and playing time as possible. Hopefully that'll keep everyone from losing 40 energy points and we are in the hole after week 1.

280

weykool
ID: 2842717
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 11:57

To Sarge and anyone else signing with another team for the money.
If you dont get the playing time it will be harder for you to level up.
The JV team will be offering minimum contracts to take care of any of the training you need AND we are guaranteeing all Guru players the starting gig.
If you focus on your stamina you will see more playing time.
You can use your experience to level up.
Taking a big contract may not be in our/your best interest if you dont play.

281

barilko6
ID: 3732117
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 11:59

I can also help with the scouting. Do we know who we play first?

282

dpr
ID: 1733917
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 12:06

they say that the schedule should be announced tonight. With alot of people wanting to help we should probably form a place where this can all be talked over

283

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 12:09

re 280...thats understood. For now, the owner "promised" playing time. Just have to see if they honor it. In the meantime, I can afford to train "HARD", and get some extra training benefit from that. As a 1st level, they'll get 100 XP/day of training. SO 10 days, even w/o play time, they'll be 2nd level.

284

Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 12:09

I'll move the discussion over to the simulated sports forum, the coaches can talk on the GoalLine Blitz Team forum. If you have g-mail you can talk to me directly on G-mail chat.

285

dpr
ID: 1733917
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 12:15

sagre btw wen building these players I wouldnt recommend putting as many points into special abilities as you did your WR. And if you you should focus on one tree only.

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Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 12:17

NEW THREAD!!

287

sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 12:20

agreed dpr...something I noticed and I altered that approach with both of these last two. I noticed a definite difference in the "scouting report" bars that way.

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