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Subject: Lost Season 2

Posted by: Tree - Sustainer [599393013] Thu, Sep 15, 2005, 17:52

starts in less than a week!

anyone watching the DVDs?

ksoze
Leader
ID: 04619323
Thu, Sep 15, 2005, 18:00

Yep, watched the episode I missed and the extras. Apparently episode 3 of season 2 will have some serious "what's in the hatch" answers.

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Thu, Sep 22, 2005, 11:24

Yep, worked through the DVDs before last night.

Now...who was that dude in the hatch?

ChicagoTRS
ID: 54819168
Thu, Sep 22, 2005, 13:29

he was the dude the doc met while running the stairs in the stadium years earlier...at the time said he was headed on a trip around the world...not much clue to what he is doing on the island in the underground..."quarantine" on the door to the underground...as is standard with this show, a whole lot more unanswered questions.

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Thu, Sep 22, 2005, 14:15

OK, thats what I thought too. The whole "I'll see you in another life" thing too that the guy said on the stairs plays in with Jack and John's comments of "we get a new life on this island".

beastiemiked
Sustainer
ID: 03531815
Thu, Sep 22, 2005, 14:25

Probably the best episode yet. Since all the characters have something in common I guesssing that everyone of them has met Desmond at one point or another.

The "quarantine" was written on the inside of the hatch. Presumably to warn people on the inside not to open the hatch.

Tree
Sustainer
ID: 599393013
Thu, Sep 22, 2005, 14:47

how about some of these...

1. a. Desmond basically told Jack not to lose faith in regards to his paralyzed patient Sara regaining the ability to walk. Jack said it would take a "miracle".

b. Locke told Walt a "miracle" happened on the island, presumably, him regaining the ability to walk. the same island, where Desmond lives. could he somehow be involved in both Locke and Sara regaining their ability to walk?

2. Sara would go on to become Jack's wife (and ex-wife). in earlier episodes, we saw their wedding, and she toasted Jack for "Fixing her" and for letting her be able to "dance at (her) own wedding..."

3. the man who died in the car accident Sara was in? his last name was Rutherford. Shannon's last name is Rutherford, and in earlier episodes, we learned that her father died...in a car accident...before her mother went on to marry Boone's dad.

so, we've got some close degrees of seperation from the survivors before the plane even crashed:

Sawyer had drinks with Jack's dad; Jack saved one patient, but was not able to save Shannon's dad; and Boone and Sawyer bumped into each other in a police station.

beastiemiked
Sustainer
ID: 03531815
Thu, Sep 22, 2005, 15:15

During Hurley's episode, they mentioned he invested in a box company, Locke worked at a box company.

C1-NRB
ID: 24050310
Thu, Sep 22, 2005, 16:03

I started watching this summer and I had heard some rumors about what *might* be happening.

Some fansites/ message boards are saying they all died and just don't know it. They're in a sort of Purgatory. When one of them dies on the show, they cross over to the next plane. In order for that to happen they have to come to grips with their life and/or some sort of epiphany.

Makes as much sense as anything else...

beastiemiked
Sustainer
ID: 03531815
Thu, Sep 22, 2005, 16:36

Pretty sure the shows creators have confirmed that they are not dead. They've also said what is happening is real, it's not a dream or a hallucination by any of them.

C1-NRB
ID: 24050310
Thu, Sep 22, 2005, 17:50

Deny everything...

I'd like it to be "real." Just passing on what I heard.

It's way early to be anticipating the end, but I hope they bring everything to a satisfactory conclusion. Before they jump the shark. It will only ruin it if they drag it out too long.

Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Fri, Sep 23, 2005, 00:06

Didn't watch last year....just started with the "review" episode and now last night's. Perhaps I'll rent the DVD's. I'm certainly intrigued.

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Fri, Sep 23, 2005, 01:10

Species, you definitely need to watch more than that quickie recap to get all the plot mixings and feelings.

And I really, really hope they don't "Dallas" this thing. That would be truely disappointing.

angryCHAIR
Donor
ID: 98192416
Fri, Sep 23, 2005, 12:10

As I stated in the other thread...I hope they don't "Twin
Peaks" Lost. There are so many loose ends...I fear
even the best writers will become confused themselves.

I thought the comment from Desmond was way too
obvious......I knew we'd see him again.

Also, the computer, record player, etc in the hatch
seemed so archiac. It seemed like he was stuck in
time. The song playing was from what year? What was
it's title too? Was he injecting himself with vitamins or
what?

tastethewaste
ID: 251043226
Fri, Sep 23, 2005, 12:50

Make your own kind of music

Mama Cass

1969

I thought it was steroids, the bottle had the #s on it.

Tree
Sustainer
ID: 599393013
Fri, Sep 23, 2005, 13:30

well, Mama Cass just sung the song (as did the Carpenters, for that matter)... she didn't write it.. ;o)

tastethewaste
ID: 251043226
Fri, Sep 23, 2005, 13:35

I didnt say she wrote it

Tree
ID: 208482817
Wed, Sep 28, 2005, 22:44

episode 2 - who watched?

ChicagoTRS
ID: 21431823
Wed, Sep 28, 2005, 23:44

i watched...did not offer too much new...mostly filled in blanks in places where they skipped ahead last week. was definitely an interesting ending though.

Razor
ID: 128461621
Wed, Sep 28, 2005, 23:59

First time watching tonight...I'm not hooked yet. If the whole show is just one weird surprise after another, I'm not sure if that qualifies as great drama. I mostly reserve judgement until I've seen a couple, though. As a Sopranos man, though, I must admit that I'm skeptical how good drama on network TV can be.

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 01:21

As a follow up to last week, I'm disappointed. Seemed to waste about 1/4 of the time replaying scenes we've already seen.

Definitely blows up any thoughts I had for Desmond. So...basically he has to enter the numbers every 108 minutes...or else??? Makes for one hell of a sleep patern.

Tree
ID: 2286295
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 07:14

Razor - without watching previous episodes, this episode wouldn't have made a lot of sense to you.

actually, there were almost NO surprises in this show, until the very end.

anyone notice that the logo on Desmond's jumper and the food supply was also on...the shark?

tommyd
ID: 46928248
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 07:17

On the shark, I missed that. Thought the episode was a bit fo a throw away except for the ending but I've only watched last years finale and the two shows this season.

Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 18:39

I missed the shark. Noticed the logo on his shirt as being identical to a logo Locke sees on what looks like a power box/breaker box down there.

I'm glad to see others comment on how weak this episode was. Outside of the Michael/Walt background there wasn't jack squat, and if that was the norm I would've been really surprised at the show's popularity. Obviously with "The Others" showing themselves/attacking Jin/Michael/Sawyer, perhaps that will open a new can of worms.

beastiemiked
ID: 262411016
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 19:49

The Michael/Walt background was boring. We already knew he gave up Walt so there was basically nothing new there. Not sure why but I'm not a big fan of Michael, perhaps it's because I want him to be Augustus(his character on Oz).

It was fairly predictable that this episode was going to be a filler episode. Just like it's fairly predictable that the next episode will be awesome. I can't wait to get another hot female, Michelle Rodriguez, on the island.

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 21:42

I just watched it again. It might be my crappy VCR recording, but I couldn't discern any logo on the shark. Until I see a photo or something, I'm a little questionable of that idea.

Uptown Bombers
ID: 35616416
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 21:49

Try this link. There seems to be a certain marking on the shark.

http://www.krakke.com/lost_logo.png

beastiemiked
ID: 262411016
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 21:57

http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=logoonshark8no.jpg

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 21:57

Damn...time for a new DVD VCR...and large screen TV!

angryCHAIR
Donor
ID: 98192416
Thu, Oct 06, 2005, 15:50

Not a bad episode. THings seem a bit SCi-FI more
than ever though. We had another image of the Polar
Bears, it seems Locke may have found his destiny
(saving the world every 108 minutes/), the "others" are
tribal and have commandeered at least one plane
wreck survivor,
Desmond took off to who knows where(heck, he's just
glad to get away from the computer).

Funniest part was when Sawyer called the tribal man
"Shaft". classic!~

In all, episode 3 was mediocre.

tastethewaste
ID: 53954619
Thu, Oct 06, 2005, 21:59

i got the impression the "others" that knocked around Sawyer, Michael and Jin were actually all from the plane and not the same "others" who took Walt. I guess I could be wrong.

Tree
ID: 5096617
Thu, Oct 06, 2005, 22:05

episode 3 was fantastic.

i agree with taste. "the others" that took the Shipwreck Trio were other survivors of the plane, and very different from "the others" who kidnapped Walt.

but the best part of the episode was the very last scene of next week's coming attractions...

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Thu, Oct 06, 2005, 22:09

Jin speaking English...so many plot implications there.

Razor
ID: 9919418
Thu, Oct 06, 2005, 22:19

They shouldn't have shown that in the preview.

Tree
ID: 5096617
Thu, Oct 06, 2005, 23:03

of course they should have. because it gave a total "Holy S#it!" moment to FORCE us to watch next week...

Razor
ID: 9919418
Thu, Oct 06, 2005, 23:12

Lost viewers are mostly repeat viewers anyway. As a two-time Lost viewer, I'd have preferred to see it in the show rather than in a preview.

ksoze
Leader
ID: 04619323
Fri, Oct 07, 2005, 06:26

I'm betting that it's not quite as simple as "Jin can speak English too but kept this a secret longer then his wife did."

C1-NRB
ID: 17348117
Sun, Oct 09, 2005, 22:45

I dunno, ksoze. With this show you never can tell. As much as everyone has to hide, I wouldn't be too terribly surprised that he can.

The biggest surprise would be after all they've been through, what could possibly happen that would make him "come out of non-English speaking the closet?"

If you go back and look, there are some times when you see a glimmer of understanding sneak through.

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Sun, Oct 09, 2005, 23:45

Anyone watch the rerun show last night? They had an even more extended preview at the end. Showing that there were 26 other survivors...and that some where not with them anymore (didn't say dead or kidnapped.) Looked to be heading into a mineshaft.

Tree
ID: 9929104
Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 06:43

according to the official (now out of business) Oceanic Air website, there 106 seats in the tail section. that only a portion of those survived, is logical...

Trip
Sustainer
ID: 13961611
Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 10:40

Also check outThe Hanso Foundation's site .

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 11:17

Using the link in post 39 (at the seating chart)-

Click on the 42F listed under "Economy Class". When Seat 42F turns green, click on that seat ... and see what possibly happened to the rear section of the plane.

and ... by clicking on the seat row numbers in order (4 - 8 - 15 - 16 - 23 - 42), you'll see a teaser video.

Other Easter Eggs / hints are also hidden within the seat numbers, but it takes time to find them all.

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Mon, Oct 10, 2005, 11:52

From post 39:

Notices on the right hand side of the screen, some additional letters. Highlight and pasted them into notepad:

If anyone should find this message, please get word I'm alive and stranded on an island somewhere in the South Pacific. Please send help soon. Things are bad. And they're getting worse...

Sally

Cool site.

Tree
Sustainer
ID: 599393013
Wed, Oct 12, 2005, 15:32

this photo montage may be one of the best things sent to me regarding Lost, and potentially starts to solve one of the biggest puzzles in Lost.

it's not a spoiler, but it could be a huge clue.

it involves the DeGroots, from the Hanso Foundation orientation video..

tastethewaste
ID: 251043226
Wed, Oct 12, 2005, 16:50

hmmm, it feels like a spoiler

Tree
Sustainer
ID: 599393013
Wed, Oct 12, 2005, 17:51

it's not a spoiler. a spoiler tells you something that hasn't happened before.

the linked image contains photos and such that have already been shown, but it presents them in a montage that may put 2 and 2 together, and explain quite a bit about The Others.

or, it may be way off.

angryCHAIR
Donor
ID: 98192416
Thu, Oct 13, 2005, 10:41

I love that my own prejudices assumed that, I believe
her name is Rose??, husband was also African
American .......but he was Anglo. That should be a great
storyline.

Tree
ID: 50946136
Thu, Oct 13, 2005, 11:11

yea, i think MANY people were taken in with that. just assumed her husband was also african-american, to the point of speculating that the muscular, young guy was her husband...

angryCHAIR
Donor
ID: 98192416
Thu, Oct 13, 2005, 12:04

As did I.

That man seems very friendly and caring.

ChicagoTRS
Leader
ID: 566152116
Thu, Oct 13, 2005, 17:11

anyone catch this little nugget...

http://lost.cubit.net/pics/waltMissing.jpg

C1-NRB
ID: 17348117
Fri, Oct 14, 2005, 00:34

OK. I was way off on my Jin speculation.

Next up: The answer to the question, "What happened to the other survivors from the tail section?" is...

Cannibalism. Michael and Sawyer sure seemed to think so by the looks on their faces.

angryCHAIR
Donor
ID: 98192416
Fri, Oct 14, 2005, 09:51

Chi:

Is that a true clip?

I know that was a dream sequence, but if the writers truly put that in there.....well, very cool idea!

C1-NRB: Exactly!

Balrog
Dude
ID: 02856618
Fri, Oct 14, 2005, 10:22

Have you guys seen this site. The title is Morse code for "Sometimes a polar bear is just a polar bear"

The red spot that appears when the bears merge has the text "2FEN06" hidden in it. It's pretty obvious the website is connected to Lost, but noone I know has figured out the significance of 2FEN06. Any ideas?

angryCHAIR
Donor
ID: 98192416
Fri, Oct 14, 2005, 10:57

Could it actually be 2 FEB 06

As in a date?

Balrog
Dude
ID: 02856618
Fri, Oct 14, 2005, 11:20

That's what we were thinking, but it's definitely FEN. We looked for a language that abbreviated February as FEN but came up empty.

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Oct 14, 2005, 16:57

So groundhogs day 2006?

angryCHAIR
Donor
ID: 98192416
Fri, Oct 14, 2005, 21:59

#41

Thanks..very cool info

Balrog
Dude
ID: 02856618
Sat, Oct 15, 2005, 00:07

RE: #43

More coincidences. Both Locke and Hurley's bosses were named Randy. As was reported on FARK, they're both played by the same actor

angryCHAIR
Donor
ID: 98192416
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 11:53

I thought this was a great episode. Seeing only the feet
of the "others" was eerie and insightful since we saw
Walt's feet and the bear hew had. The others seemed
tribal, if not ragged.

The large man, i forget his name said two interesting
things about the "others":
1) That they do not leave footprints; and
2) They aill be found when they want to be found.

The second observation leads directly to Locke's
comment to Sun re garding her "lost" ring: You find
things when you are not looking for them." (so true)

Maybe Walt is part of the "others"? I cannot seem to
figure out where he fits into everything.

I also enjoyed more info on Jin and Sun. Again, very
well done.

No hatch info in this episode.

On anther note: Do we know who Ethan was yet? was
he an "other"? On the Oceanic site it says he
"preboarded" but he was not on the flight manifesto?

So, no LOST for 3 weeks? Is that correct? If so, that
bites.

Tree
Sustainer
ID: 599393013
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 12:06

no Lost for 3 weeks, correct.

I thought this was a great episode. Seeing only the feet of the "others" was eerie and insightful since we saw Walt's feet and the bear hew had. The others seemed tribal, if not ragged.

what is your reason to believe that was Walt? it didn't seem to me to be Walt.

my guess is that the person hauling around the Teddy Bear is Danielle's now-16-year-old child, who was kidnapped by The Others as an infant, and is now a teenager.

i was weirded out how The Others made NO noise. even bare feet, on twigs and brush, make sound when walking.

i believe Ethan was an Other, or perhaps he was Desmond's partner in the hatch, but only time will tell.

angryCHAIR
Donor
ID: 98192416
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 12:15

Tree:

true, it being walt is only an inference. the child looked
young to me not a teenager as you assume. also it
looked male. wasn't danielle's child female?

i do not think ethan was desmond's partner. didn't he
say he died? also why would ethan be so evil if he was
desmond's partner? desmond did not posses those
qualities.

Tree
Sustainer
ID: 599393013
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 12:49

true, it being walt is only an inference. the child looked young to me not a teenager as you assume. also it looked male. wasn't danielle's child female?

Danielle's child was named Alex. i dont think we've learned if it was male or female.

i do not think ethan was desmond's partner. didn't he say he died? also why would ethan be so evil if he was desmond's partner? desmond did not posses those qualities.

i think it's very unlikely, but it's possible. to me, he was evil because he snapped, and went insane. that simple.

beastiemiked
Sustainer
ID: 03531815
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 15:11

Mary Neubauer, spokeswoman for the Iowa Lottery, said hundreds of ticket buyers had played a set of numbers from the ABC drama “Lost,” which featured a character who won $156 million by playing a string of digits obtained from a patient in a mental institution: 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42.

Idiots. Not only would they have had to split their winnings amongst hundreds of others but they would've been cursed with bad luck.

angryCHAIR
Donor
ID: 98192416
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 16:28

Dude! (a la Hurley)

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 17:34

My wife was telling me last night that she saw something on entertainment tonight (or some show like that) that said the Swan Logo was on the section of plane wreckage. Thinks she said it was in episode 3. Going to look into that tonight on the DVDs.

angryCHAIR
Donor
ID: 98192416
Fri, Oct 21, 2005, 09:55

RSF: Let us know what you find.

beastiemiked
Sustainer
ID: 03531815
Fri, Oct 21, 2005, 09:58

I saw pictures of them. There were 2 scenes they were in but both images were pretty vague.

ChicagoTRS
ID: 51828221
Fri, Oct 21, 2005, 11:17

"Lost" drinking game

Drink....

- Anytime all the numbers (4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42) are mentioned, either in a row or in combination, take a shot

- Whenever Locke makes a speech about destiny, fate or faith, take a shot

- Whenever Scott or Steve are referenced or mixed up, shot

- Anytime there is a Polar bear reference or it appears, shot

- Whenever Jack cries, take two shots, youre guaranteed to be drunk by the end of the night

- Whenever one character appears in another characters flashback, shot

- Whenever the "Others" are mentioned or referenced, shot

- Anytime Charlie mentions Driveshaft and no one cares, take a shot

- Anytime the "hatch" is mentioned, shot

- Whenever Hurley mentions he is bad luck or the numbers are bad luck, shot

- Whenever Sawyer calls Kate "freckles", shot

- Anytime someone pulls out a gun, shot

- When Sayid makes or fixes a gadget, like making a radio out of a coconut, shot

- Whenever Shannon is tanning, take a shot

- Anytime the "monster" appears, is mentioned or heard, shot

- Whenever Sayid is wearing an undershirt or Sawyer is topless

- Whenever we hear whispering in the jungle, shot

- When Sawyer gives someone a new nickname, shot

- Whenever Hurley says "dude", shot

- Finally, whenever something is left unexplained finish off the bottle, and throw it at the tv exclaiming, "I hate TV!"

Tree
Sustainer
ID: 599393013
Fri, Oct 21, 2005, 11:30

There were 2 scenes they were in but both images were pretty vague.

i agree. i didn't see them on the DVD, but the online images looked photoshopped.

angryCHAIR
Donor
ID: 98192416
Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 16:17

After 3 weeks away fro Lost, I had to reread this thread
to get caught up.

ksoze
Leader
ID: 04619323
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 17:12

I'm pretty sure that was Jack ducking by Shannon and her stepmom in the hospital when the doctor was talking to them about Shannon's father dying in the wreck. Didn't an older man die in the wreck that Jack's future wife was in?

beastiemiked
Sustainer
ID: 03531815
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 17:25

Yeah, it was Jack. He chose to save his future wife over Shannon's dad.

I personally don't see why they killed off Shannon. Her and Boone's backstory wasn't complete and it would've been pretty cool to see her find out that Jack worked at the same hospital that her dad died.

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 17:50

I'm not sure she's dead yet.

Went over to the inlaws and DVD recorded it on the big screen. Pretty sweet. Going to try and hack the commercials out tonight.

Boxman
ID: 148111710
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 09:03

That was Jack. I wonder how they shoot those scenes. Do they just use the actor for five minutes or was that all filmed previously when they did more backstory of Jack in the hospital? Perhaps they CGI'd him in.

I thought the Shannon character was kinda useless after Boone died. She was Sayed's love interest, but still.

I deleted it from my TiVo already so I can't go back to check something out.

Did they specifically mention that Shannon's dad was in the same wreck as Jack's wife or was it implied?

Also, have they ever hinted as to what caused Jack to get divorced or leave his wife?

I can't wait for the first ten minutes of the episode that picks up the Sayed/Shannon storyline. I've got to imagine he snaps and cracks Michelle Rodriguez's head open like a coconut.

Next week should be interesting to see "how the other half lived" on the island.

beastiemiked
Sustainer
ID: 03531815
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 09:22

Did they specifically mention that Shannon's dad was in the same wreck as Jack's wife or was it implied?

I'm pretty sure they said Shannon dad's name(whatever it was) in the ER scene.

Also, have they ever hinted as to what caused Jack to get divorced or leave his wife?

No, I'm not sure they have ever said he divorced or left her. Do we know that she is still alive?

ksoze
Leader
ID: 04619323
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 17:02

RE: Jack's wife... I don't believe they've completed that backstory yet, we don't know why he's no longer with her nor do we know if she's alive. Maybe another episode about that is coming this season...

Boxman
ID: 148111710
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 19:45

To the best of my knowledge they have not even gotten past Jack's wedding in terms of his backstory as it relates to his wife.

Did Jack out his father as an alcoholic before or after getting married?

I'm guessing after, which means that over my long Veteran's Day Weekend, I'll be combing thru Season One on DVD to see if Jack has a wedding ring on during any of the times with his father after and while he outs him as an alcoholic.

Beastie: I do not know for certain if Jack's wife is alive, but I'm under the assumption (dangerous word, we all know what assuming does) that she is alive. I think Jack is the kind of character (He is the hero.) that would wear a ring even though his wife was dead.

I think the producers/writers of Lost are sitting on that nugget of info about Jack and Carol Vescey (I don't know her name, but that was her character's name on Ed another show I really liked.) intentionally as a season or even series finale.

jimmy
Dude
ID: 349182621
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 07:58

Danielle appears to be the culprit in the shooting of Shannon after all?
link

angryCHAIR
Donor
ID: 98192416
Sun, Nov 13, 2005, 10:51

Any images of Jack in the background at the hospital scene?

Thanks for the gun image.

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Sun, Nov 13, 2005, 17:29

One theory out there is that Shannon was stabbed, and Ana Lucia shot someone else.

Here is a screenshot of Jack in the hospital.

angryCHAIR
Donor
ID: 98192416
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 13:43

TOSH: Thanks!

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Tue, Nov 15, 2005, 21:17

Probably a little late, but got around to it yesterday.

LOST - Nov 9, 2005.ISO

Its a commercial free DVD ISO. You could download it and use DVDDecrypter to burn it.

Alternatively, you could just download it and use WinXP_Virtual_CD to trick XP into thinking the ISO file is a CD/DVD drive. You can then play it. (My preferred method)

Don't think the download speeds will be worth it, but thought I'd throw it out there. I need to ask Perm Dude if this is breaking any permission/copyright issues. If it is, I'll pull it.

jimmy
ID: 41021616
Wed, Nov 16, 2005, 22:27

It was obvious that Anna was the shooter, a bit of a reach on Danielle.

Though "48 days" moved much too fast, interesting that their run-ins with the Others came very early after crashing, like within 10 minutes (Goodwin).

Tree
ID: 271036175
Thu, Nov 17, 2005, 06:40

no doubt now that ana lucia was the shooter.

we did learn about the Others.

1. they came for "good" people.
2. they're certainly not drooling zombies.
3. at least one has a U.S. military issue knife.
4. they are silent, but they are also very beatable. Mr. Eko took out two of them. Ana Lucia took out two of them.

Boxman
ID: 148111710
Thu, Nov 17, 2005, 17:01

They went for the children first. Perhaps "good" is defined as young and fit?

The Teddy Bear in the earlier episode now makes sense. It belongs to the other boy.

I thought this was a great episode. Ana Lucia was a little too much for me at first, but this episode put some weight behind her personality and made you understand the why behind her logic.

I heard this was going to be an extended episode, but it went only 5 minutes longer. Don't break the bank ABC, wouldn't want you to go belly up with the #1 or #2 show on all of television. :)

angryCHAIR
Donor
ID: 98192416
Thu, Nov 17, 2005, 18:14

I was fooled on the "Ethan" (bad guy) and possibly
"Nathan" as another bad guy. I theorized that maybe
the "others" all had similar names. (Lame, i know).

This episode was excellent. Great reintroduction to the
new cast(away) member, Anna is a great strong
character, a lot like Jack with the other survivors.

The "others" do not seem like "drooling zombies" but
they do seem very strong when they grabbed the
survivors. They did seem to move quickly.

What is the whispering for? Has it been broken down
by any web sites out there? What are they saying?

Also, where's Desmond?

Again, great, insightful episode.

Tree
ID: 34103186
Fri, Nov 18, 2005, 07:21

my girlfriend theorizes there are two groups of Others...

one are the subjects - the silent, strong ones, who do the kidnapping and such.

the other, are the researchers - the doctors, etc, who do the experimentation on the silent, strong ones. the guy that Ana Lucia killed was one of those.

and perhaps, Desmond was also - after all, if The Others were aware of the tail end survivors so quickly, it seems quite likely they were aware of the front end survivors as well. and thusly, instead of the "quick" experimentation like they did on the tailies, it was a slower, more gradual process - and Desmond was just in there, waiting, and waiting, knowing they'd find the Dharma Swan base eventually...

Boxman
ID: 5810221810
Fri, Nov 18, 2005, 11:29

Good theory. I love concocting and reading crackpot theories about shows like this. It makes work bearable. :)

Two groups of "others" working in concert trying out different techniques to study human behavior?

I would say that the characters of Lost are a rather diverse (good thing of course) sort of people. If you're studying human nature which the "others" could be doing, it would be ideal to do it with a diverse group.

That would answer a lot. It would even explain a polar bear on a jungle island. They probably put it there to gauge the reaction.

I was hoping the tail group would have some insight about the ins and outs of the hatch. I think the cannibal theory about the tail group can be shelved for now too.

Tree
ID: 3510401818
Fri, Nov 18, 2005, 20:30

probably waaaay too complex a theory for a TV show, but it's well thought out and well researched, and i like it.

Boxman
ID: 148111710
Sat, Nov 19, 2005, 14:11

That's a very impressive theory and I have to go with that one until a better one comes along.

I do question why would the scientists place their safety in the unknowing hands of the survivors? I understand the need for a constant repetitive task to help pass the time, but that is a rather important one considering that the survivors don't even know what it does.

I still believe the computer is some form of sociological study and that nothing of substance would happen if the numbers weren't entered.

Very well thought out and backed up though. Impressive.

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Mon, Nov 28, 2005, 14:10

A few new things have appeared at the Hanso Foundation website.

When clicking on 'active projects' then the "Life Extension" project ... there is a press release about about a successful experiment of an orangutan who is now 105 years old.

There is a hidden link under the seven active projects which shows you the orientation video.

When going to this page ... enter "Copenhagen" to gain access to a possible clue about the quarantine signs have seen inside the hatch.

Tree
ID: 210143021
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 22:14

tonights episode = oh. my. god.

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 23:03

Dude...not yet...I still have 57 minutes!

DMAN
ID: 92582611
Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 03:00

Anyone else catch Sayid on the television when Kate went to see her Dad?

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 04:29

Link to Sayid on TV

Something new at the Hanso Foundation today. Click on the photo, and this pops up, followed by a new document.

Hello
:> Hello
Who is this?
M O L E.

RSF - I can't believe that you would even open this thread before 10 PM!

Tree
ID: 6112315
Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 06:25

yea, come on RSF. you gotta presume this is going to be a spoiler thread! LOL

katietx
ID: 1310312916
Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 10:39

No!!! I didn't see Sayid on the TV. Dang! The link won't work for me...what was the context of the pic?

hmmm M O L E?

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 12:06

Come on...I say no, but you know I mean yes.

Again...my TV/VCR combo sucks. I went back to catch the Sayid thing and can barely make it out. Tosh's link is working for me. Nice clean shot. Must have been from HDTV or something.

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 12:41

Apparently, there are several little nuggets per episode that get missed if you don't have a widescreen TV.

101

angryCHAIR
Donor
ID: 98192416
Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 12:09

HONOLULU (Reuters) - Two stars of the hit ABC
television drama "Lost" have been arrested on
suspicion of drunken driving on the Hawaiian island of
Oahu, where the castaway thriller is filmed, police said
on Friday.
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Michelle Rodriguez, 27, who portrays Ana Lucia on the
show, and Cynthia Watros, 37, who plays Libby, were
stopped in separate incidents by police early Thursday
morning.

The women were driving in separate vehicles in the
town of Kailua and they both failed field sobriety tests,
police said.

The two actresses were booked at the main Honolulu
police station on suspicion of driving under the
influence of an intoxicant and were released after each
woman posted $500 bail.

Rodriguez is best known to TV audiences as Ana Lucia
Cortez, the edgy cop who accidentally shoots a fellow
castaway to death on the mysterious island where a
group of plane crash survivors are marooned.

Her credits include a big-screen turn as a female boxer
in the acclaimed independent film "Girlfight" and roles
in such movies as "Resident Evil," "Blue Crush" and
"The Fast and the Furious."

Her "Lost" co-star Watros plays Libby, a therapist who
along with Ana Lucia was part of the smaller group of
survivors from the plane's tail section. Watros
previously co-starred on "The Drew Carey Show" as
Drew's love interest.

An ABC spokesman said the network had no comment
on the arrests. Representatives for the two actresses
were not immediately available for comment.

102

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Thu, Dec 08, 2005, 12:36

FYI - Next new episode of 'Lost' will be on January 11.

103

angryCHAIR
Donor
ID: 98192416
Thu, Dec 08, 2005, 13:17

Amazing...that sucks @$$

104

Tree
Sustainer
ID: 599393013
Thu, Dec 08, 2005, 16:29

very rarely is there new programming in december...

february, may, and november are sweeps months, so those months are heavy with new releases. as are late sept and most of Oct.

right there, that takes up about 18 of the 23 to 24 episodes a weekly show has, leaving repeats for most of december, march, and april...

105

angryCHAIR
Donor
ID: 98192416
Fri, Dec 09, 2005, 11:45

BUT there has only been 6 or 7 new episodes!

Not the best way to keep viewers!

106

katietx
ID: 361132147
Fri, Dec 23, 2005, 14:24

Lost cast entertainers of the year

107

deraynman
ID: 5411853
Fri, Dec 23, 2005, 14:36

FYI, There have been 9 episodes this year so far. The 10th is a Mr. Eko flashback. 11th Jack. 12th Charlie. Locke and Sawyer are tentatively scheduled for 13th and 14th, respectively.

108

Boxman
ID: 540541210
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 12:39

Has anyone made heads or tails about last nights episode yet?

- How was that small plane able to fly from Nigeria to wherever the airliner crashed?

The Oceanic flight was from Australia to LA correct? I would guess that means an east trajectory which is completely away from Nigeria. I don't recall a destination of the Nigerian plane mentioned yesterday, but I don't see how it had the fuel for a trip that far. Even if it refueled on the far eastern African border, it couldn't make it.

- Just what is the black smoke?

Did anyone else catch the flashing black & white images in there or did I work too hard yesterday :)? I couldn't make out anything from those images.

I just knew that Charlie had a heroin stash somewhere.

Another great episode on a great show.

109

allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 50902421
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 12:58

Wow... I finally just caught up to you guys on watching the show... Left to my own devices I'd have viewed the entire first season DVD set in the first day (with time taken for potty breaks and what not), but my wife would have killed me if I'd have watched any shows without her. Via Tivo we've finally caught up on season two after about 2 months. (We missed season 2, episodes 1 and 3 unfortunately because we hadn't really become rabid fans yet.)

Gonna go back and check out the two Lost threads here, and finally be ready to roll! ;)

110

angryCHAIR
Donor
ID: 98192416
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 13:13

Excellent, seamless episode. Mr Ecco's (sp?) character
is excellent. The writers tied in his 40 days of silence,
his biblical writings on his staff, and his many religous
comments perfectly to his past as a drug runner, etc.

His mix of good ( his childhood) vs. evil ( post the
shooting of the man) to the now "man seeking"
redemption makes for an excellent character. I feel he
may be the best on Lost at this time.

The black smoke? Well, I have no clue.

111

allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 50902421
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 16:31

Completely in agreement on the Ecco/Echo character. Fantastic backstory, complex character, excellent acting.

Reading back through the two threads, I noticed that there's not much mention of Walt. I hadn't thought about this myself, by my wife pointed out that perhaps Walt's "thing" is that he can imagine thing up... During an early backstory segment, Walt's stepdad is reading a bit about a bird, and shortly thereafter a small bird flies into the window. On the island, Walt is reading the comic book with the polar bear, and then the polar bear shows up... I'll need to go back and check these items out, any other corroborating examples? Too far-fetched? Or has this already been covered?

113

Uptown Bombers
ID: 35616416
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 16:58

A great episode last night.

Some screencaps of the images in the black smoke.
pics

114

katietx
ID: 361132147
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 17:55

Thanks uptownB - great site for more info.

115

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 19:30

I loved the line:

"You gonna beat me with your Jesus stick?".

Oh man, that was a real LOL moment.

116

ksoze
Leader
ID: 04619323
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 20:51

AA,
A 6 pack of Mackesson says it's "Eko." ;-)

That was the best episode of Lost in... 6 weeks. Actually, probably the best episode this season. Finally, a good backstory that ties in well to current events.

117

deraynman
ID: 329342011
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 21:15

Remember in a previous episode how Locke saw the monster and said it was beautiful? And how he wanted to it to take him? I wonder what he saw, most likely some kind of pictures in the smoke.

118

allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 50902421
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 21:18

And a bottle of the sweet stout to you as well, my friend! "Eko" it is! :)

So... we know about Station 3, and I presume (perhaps incorrectly) that the back section survivors ran into one of the other sections... what about the missing station?

Also, does anyone know off hand how many "others" walked by when Jin and Eko were hiding in the bush? Is it strange to anyone that what I assume was the boy from the back section (with the teddy bear) was the last in line? If these people were captives, it doesn't mesh that the kid wouldn't be under close watch. Or is there some mind control/brainwashing going on... docile captives? Or are they all friends now? Or... how sure are we that those were actually "others"? outside of Eko's naming them as such? Perhaps they were the people that were kidnapped from the beach? Hmmm...

119

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 21:46

Here's a new website that just started up recently. Lots of interesting reading in issue 1.1

The Society for the Study of Lost

120

jimmy
Dude
ID: 349182621
Sat, Jan 14, 2006, 22:57

Interesting, the whole good vs. bad issue that is said to be important. The Black & White Backgammon pieces, Black & White stones found on the two dead skeletons in the cave. Now with this seasons introduction of Mr. Eko, which seemly equates closely to Locke's character, now add into the mix that these two have now had an up close and personal encounter with the so-called monster, only reveals that a division or sides may eventual come about?

Mr. Eko (Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje) is by far is the most intriguing character, great job by the actor.

121

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Wed, Jan 18, 2006, 17:42

I love Wednesdays.

122

allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 50902421
Wed, Jan 18, 2006, 22:08

After watching Season 1 on DVD, I can't stand to watch the episodes with commercials... luckily, we're lucky enough to have Tivo... waiting patiently while the middle one falls asleep so the wife and I can watch the latest...

123

Tree
ID: 410221819
Wed, Jan 18, 2006, 22:17

you and me ain't done, Zeke...

124

Boxman
ID: 6027195
Thu, Jan 19, 2006, 06:29

Tree: Could you hear the music from the Sergio Leone westerns in your head when he said that? I did. I half expected some tumbleweed to come rolling out of the jungle in between them.

"You were a cop, right? How long would it take to train an army?"

The best show is getting better.

125

Tree
ID: 15053196
Thu, Jan 19, 2006, 07:54

odd though, he asks the cop about training an army, and not the soldier...(sayid)....

126

katietx
ID: 541052519
Thu, Jan 19, 2006, 13:15

Did anyone notice the resemblance between the guy that died after Jack did surgery (can't remember his name) and Desmond?

127

Tree
ID: 1411442914
Thu, Jan 19, 2006, 14:00

Katie - i've seen that pointed out on other boards, but it couldnt have been more than a passing resemblance, could it?

128

Boxman
ID: 290501913
Thu, Jan 19, 2006, 14:50

Tree: Jack has been spending "beach time" with Anna Lucia anyway. I wouldn't read much into it except for that. Anna Lucia was a cop and I believe Sayed was an inteligence officer(?). She'd be better for weapons training I think.

Wouldn't you rather have Michelle Rodriguez give you personal lessons anyway? :)

I can't wait to find out who Jack's wife left him for. Everyone on that show is connected somehow. That's got to be revealed.

I envision a couple character study episodes while Anna Lucia trains the "army" and then war time.

129

angryCHAIR
Donor
ID: 98192416
Mon, Jan 23, 2006, 13:22

Boxman: I. too, was immediately wondering who she
left Jack for. Desmond?

Katie: I wondered the same thing about the man.

130

allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 50902421
Mon, Jan 23, 2006, 14:15

katiex,

I think that guy looked more like Salvador Dali... :)

131

Boxman
ID: 35019238
Mon, Jan 23, 2006, 14:33

AngryChair: Desmond would be good. You just know it's got to be somebody that's connected to the show.

Did Michael ever remarry after Walt's mom left him?

Katie: You're right. That guy did look like Desmond. It could explain why he would even have the money to attempt a "Race Around The World". Obviously that guy was well off and I'm sure he would've left Desmond something.

132

deraynman
ID: 1114711
Wed, Jan 25, 2006, 22:38

I almost fell asleep during this week's episode. Either this episode was boring, or I've been watching way too much 24 (or both).

133

Uptown Bombers
ID: 35616416
Thu, Jan 26, 2006, 00:05

Not my favorite episode either, though Charlie is not my favorite character so maybe that has something to do with it. Also his flashbacks tonight seemed redundant.

134

katietx
ID: 361132147
Thu, Jan 26, 2006, 00:10

Agree. The only interesting part is that Eko keeps telling people he's a priest, and he's not.
Also, why did Locke keep the statues and hide the guns?

135

deraynman
ID: 1114711
Thu, Jan 26, 2006, 01:12

136

ksoze
Leader
ID: 04619323
Thu, Jan 26, 2006, 04:26

No new Lost next week, back to reruns.

137

Tree
ID: 48036264
Thu, Jan 26, 2006, 05:46

One interesting part. Hurley said that he thought he recognized Libby. Libby said that Hurley stepped on her foot getting on the plane, that he was the last one on. The thing is, Libby was sitting on the back of the plane, Hurley on the front. Something fishy about that, I think Hurley knew her from somewhere else.

i don't think it's an accident that the repeat episode next week is "Numbers", the episode where Hurley won the lottery and spent time in a mental hospital.

didn't Libby say previously she was a Therapist or psychologist of some sort?

as for Locke hiding the guns and drugs, he's up to something...

138

allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 50902421
Thu, Jan 26, 2006, 07:54

Perhaps Locke is still working on his halucinogens... He tried some out on Boone... perhaps he's "refined" the formula and is testing them on Charlie. In fact, that time he cracked Boone on the head (before putting the paste on his head) is the only other time I can think of where Locke used physical violence against another survivor.

139

Boxman
ID: 22049267
Thu, Jan 26, 2006, 09:07

Katietx: I agree with you that this wasn't the best episode either. In fact, it was probably the worst.

"The only interesting part is that Eko keeps telling people he's a priest, and he's not."

The backstory of him, that we know of, ends with him impersonating a priest in front of the Nigerian Army when the plane took off. I would imagine that he continues the act (If for no better reason than to avoid execution.) and maybe fully converts. Not sure.

"Also, why did Locke keep the statues and hide the guns?"

I would keep the drugs too. Those can be bartered with or used against the "others". Next time Zeke gets lippy, shoot him with a heroin tipped dart?

I thought the best part of last night's show was Anna Lucia asking Jack is he's "hitting it" with Kate. Looks like Anna Lucia has an itch that only Jack can scratch?

Lastly, I would love to know what verses or Bible references Eko has on his club. Anyone know?

140

angryCHAIR
Donor
ID: 98192416
Thu, Jan 26, 2006, 09:18

I agree about the episode....

I came away feeling very differently about Locke. He seemed a lot more violent, full of hate...unlike his normal "spiritual" self.

Sidenote from last week: I saw last night that when Zeek called to the "others" (while surrounding Jack, etc) he said "Alex", the French Woman's child's name. That storyline has reappered now. I have often wondered where the heck she is this season.

Too bad about next week being a rerun.

141

Uptown Bombers@work
ID: 377403010
Thu, Jan 26, 2006, 09:27

Didn't Eko's brother get forced into signing the priest papers, thus making Eko's an actual priest? That's they way I remember it anyway.

I also agree that Libby is suspicious. She talked about the stepping on the foot thing and then changed the subject by flirting with him and changing clothes. Weird.

Agree that the "you hittin that" line was hysterical, as was Sawyer messing with Hurley about Libby.

142

Tree
ID: 1411442914
Thu, Jan 26, 2006, 10:32

"You hittin' that?" was not nearly as hysterical as Sawyer's "droppin' a load on her" line...

other thoughts:
Locke isn't spiritual as much as philosophical. it'll be interesting to see how Locke's Philosophy plays against Eko's Religion and Jack's Science.

just some real interesting potential there. Science vs. Religion vs. Philosophy.

and we definitely need an extended scene of Ana-Lucia "hittin'" it with someone, anyone!

143

Boxman
ID: 22049267
Thu, Jan 26, 2006, 12:48

I second the motion for the Anna Lucia "Hitting It" scene. Too bad Shannon is dead. What about Kate? Now that's a pair.

With the Science vs. Religion vs. Philosophy, it's good to see them covering a wide base like that. If it was just science, science, science and discounting religion, it would turn me off. Same thing for ramming religion and philosophy.

My understanding is Eko's brother signed those papers to get the flight out of Nigeria. I could be wrong.

144

Uptown Bombers@work
ID: 190341910
Thu, Jan 26, 2006, 13:21

I've looked up the transcipt. I read the following to mean the papers are for ordination.

YEMI: Flying drugs under the cover of the church? How is that something I could ever reconsider? [He sees one of Eko's men handling the candles on the altar] Look, hey, don't touch those!

EKO: I'm going to make this easy for you. You will make us priests and we will fly the drugs out ourselves.

YEMI: Make you priests?

EKO: Just sign these ordination documents and I will give you the money for the vaccines.

YEMI: Leave this church now, Eko. Go. Now.

EKO: Yemi, I understand that you live in a world where righteousness and evil seem very far apart, but that is not the real world. I am your brother and I would never do anything to hurt you, but my friends -- if you do not do what I ask -- they will burn this church to the ground. Is that worth less than the price of your name on a piece of paper? Think of the lives you will save.

[After a long stare down, Yemi snatches the paper out of Eko's hand and makes to sign the ordination documents.]

YEMI: My signature does not make you a priest, Eko. You could never be a priest.

EKO: How many of the statues do you have left? The Virgin Mary statues, how many?

YEMI: I don't know -- 300.

EKO: I will take all of them.

[Eko offers a pile of money to his brother who doesn't take it. Eko sets it down on the bible next to him.]

EKO: I guess we are both sinners now.

YEMI: Perhaps we are but God will forgive me, Eko.

The 23rd Psalm

145

Challenger
Donor
ID: 481126818
Sat, Jan 28, 2006, 18:42

146

beastiemiked
ID: 481116721
Sat, Jan 28, 2006, 19:09

Not sure, somebody needs to check the episode where Hurley was running to get on the plane. Though I really doubt Libby will be on it.

147

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Sat, Jan 28, 2006, 21:20

Charlie needed to kick Locke in the nads when he was down on the ground.

148

allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 50902421
Sun, Jan 29, 2006, 00:14

Anyone know which episode that Hurley scene (re: post 145) was in?

149

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Sun, Jan 29, 2006, 01:05

Is it "Numbers" from season 1 (episode 18, per this list)?

150

ksoze
Leader
ID: 04619323
Sun, Jan 29, 2006, 06:13

If so, that's the episode that's being rerun this week.

151

katietx
ID: 361132147
Sun, Jan 29, 2006, 14:53

Perhaps its being re-run for that very reason? ;-)

152

allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 50902421
Sun, Jan 29, 2006, 16:20

According to the recap I just read, the Hurley stuff isn't from that show... In numbers, Hurley buys the ticket, gets identified in the Hummer at the convenient store, meets the guy in the home re: the numbers... I think the plane scene is from a later show, but I can't think of where...

153

Uptown Bombers
ID: 35616416
Sun, Jan 29, 2006, 21:34

Hurley getting on the plane was last season's finale.

154

Boxman
ID: 53141115
Thu, Feb 02, 2006, 09:40

I watched last night's episode and did anyone else notice or think that the picture Sayed picked up towards the end (with Jack and Charlie) was of Libby?

It looked like it was torn out of a magazine as opposed to a regular photo.

155

Tree
ID: 1411442914
Thu, Feb 02, 2006, 10:13

nope. that was his old girlfriend from Iraq. previous episodes established that.

last night's episode was a repeat from Season One.

156

Boxman
ID: 53141115
Thu, Feb 02, 2006, 10:31

Ahhhhhhhhh.

157

angryCHAIR
Donor
ID: 98192416
Thu, Feb 02, 2006, 14:41

I have always expected Sayed's ex to show up!

158

katietx
ID: 361132147
Thu, Feb 02, 2006, 15:07

I thought she was killed.

159

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Thu, Feb 02, 2006, 15:18

I thought "they" had her in Los Angeles, which was the reason he was on that flight.

160

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Thu, Feb 02, 2006, 17:54

To reuse post 43's text

This photo montage may be one of the best things sent to me regarding Lost, and potentially starts to solve one of the biggest puzzles in Lost.

It's not a spoiler, but it could be a huge clue.

It involves Michael and his son, which might give us a clearer picture of the time frame of the show...

161

katietx
ID: 361132147
Fri, Feb 03, 2006, 18:50

RE: 159 - yep, you're right. Sometimes its a bit hard to keep it all straight! ;-)

162

allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 50902421
Thu, Feb 09, 2006, 00:07

Watching this episode I couldn't get David Mamet's House of Games movie out of my mind. Has anyone else seen this excellent movie about the con?

Was that Kate's mom in the diner? Nice to see Charley little victory of the will, however short-lived the excitement... And what was that Bad Twin manuscript? Product placement?

163

katietx
ID: 5615158
Thu, Feb 09, 2006, 01:08

Did anyone else hear the reference to the USO when Sayid was "tuning" the shortwave - just prior to the music?

164

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Thu, Feb 09, 2006, 01:39

I thought it sounded like he says, "Up next on WXO__ the Glenn Miller orchestra...". But nothing is clear except for the music.

That was Kate's Mom (Diane Jansen in real life) in the diner. This isn't the same diner that Kate visits her mom in - the setting, outfit, and nametag are all different.

Re: The book Bad Twin (from the Amazon site.)
About the Author
Bad Twin is the highly-anticipated new novel by acclaimed mystery writer Gary Troup. Bad Twin was delivered to Hyperion just days before Troup boarded Oceanic Flight 815, which was lost in flight from Sydney, Australia to Los Angeles in September 2004. He remains missing and is presumed dead.

165

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Thu, Feb 09, 2006, 01:56

Locke is seen holding a book titled "An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge". This is a short story by Ambrose Bierce that was later made into a 'Twilight Zone' episode.

"An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge" is the story of a man who is sentenced to death by hanging at the Owl Creek Bridge. When he is hanged the rope breaks and the main character falls into the water, from which he begins a journey back to his home. During his journey, he starts to feel some strange physiological events that ultimately end with a searing pain in his neck. It turns out that the man never escaped; he imagined the entire thing during the time between being pushed off the bridge and the noose finally breaking his neck.

Possible spoiler?

Wikipedia has already updated the page about the story with tonight's Lost reference.

166

Tree
ID: 1411442914
Thu, Feb 09, 2006, 10:19

Re: The book Bad Twin (from the Amazon site.)

heck, what about the synopsis:
Paul Artisan, P.I. is a new version of an old breed -- a righter of wrongs, someone driven to get to the bottom of things. Too bad his usual cases are of the boring malpractice and fraud variety. Until now.

His new gig turns on the disappearance of one of a pair of twins, adult scions of a rich but tragedy-prone family. The missing twin -- a charismatic poster-boy for irresponsibility -- has spent his life daring people to hate him, punishing himself endlessly for his screw-ups and misdeeds. The other twin -- Artisan's client -- is dutiful and resentful in equal measure, bewildered that his "other half" could have turned out so badly, and wracked by guilt at his inability to reform him. He has a more practical reason, as well, for wanting his brother found: their crazy father, in failing health and with guilty secrets of his own, will not divide the family fortune until both siblings are accounted for.

damned if that missing twin doesn't sound like Sawyer...

167

Boxman
ID: 4314897
Thu, Feb 09, 2006, 12:04

From Comcast's website...

On the tail of a clue
Tue Feb 7, 6:13 PM

Among potential hints (or red herrings) spotted so far on Lost:

Feb, 1

The Jan. 25 episode of Lost (the last original one to air) focused on a baby's baptism. But most readers responding to our ongoing request for clues to the island mystery focused on the budding romance between Hurley and "tailie" Libby — and to Hurley's comments that he felt he knew her from somewhere. (Related item: Send us your clues after the show Wednesday)

More than one viewer noted that since Libby was in the tail section while Hurley was seated up front, there would have been no way for him to have stepped on her foot as he boarded the plane, which was her explanation.

What's her game? Could Libby, a psychologist, have worked at the mental hospital where Hurley had been treated? Is she part of the Dharma Initiative "experiment," studying reactions from the inside? And, as Libby observed, the washer-dryer in the hatch is much newer than the rest of the furnishings, which sharp-eyed viewers also had noticed. So is there a way that items (and people) continue to move to and from the island?

Jan. 25

So let's recap: Two weeks ago, Lost viewers saw the mysterious, monstrous cloud close-up. And last week, we chatted with one of The Others as Jack, Locke and Sawyer chased after the unhinged Michael. Will revelations never cease?

In that chat, perhaps, was another hidden revelation: As "Zeke" was challenged by Jack, he yelled, "Bring 'er out, Alex," and showed Jack that they were holding Kate hostage.

Who is Alex? Could it be the Frenchwoman's daughter, who was kidnapped 16 years ago? Is she one of The Others? In fact, viewers ask, is there more than one group of Others?

Jan. 9

The big reveal of the island's "monster" as an amorphous black cloud spurred lots of chatter. Those who examined the smoke more carefully, in stop-motion on their DVRs, noticed images in the mist (and indeed, some indistinct but human shapes seem to flash by): Eko's priest brother, the old man Eko shot, perhaps the woman who was selling the statues of the Virgin Mary in his village? Is it some scientific force reading his memories, or is there a more sacred significance?

Several viewers came away from the heavily religious-themed episode believing more strongly that the island represents purgatory, and its inhabitants — nearly all turning out to have killed or in some way caused the deaths of others — await judgment. In the meantime, judge for yourself: The episode repeats tonight at 8 ET/PT, before a new episode.

Dec. 7

Last week's "aha!" moment on ABC's Lost was spotted by more than a few viewers, though it appeared for no more than a moment on the edge of the screen, and even then may have depended on the clarity of the TV set and the acuity of the viewer's vision.

As Kate visits her adoptive father in an Army recruiting station, Sayid appears on a TV screen; some say he looks like a military prisoner. This type of sighting is reminiscent of the Season 1 episode in which Hurley appeared on Korean TV during Jin's flashback.

Coincidences? We think not.

Then there's the restored film clip; what was the earlier "incident" mentioned in it? And why did Mr. Eko go on about Josiah, the biblical king who restored the Temple? Another literary reference?

Nov. 30

The preview for this week's episode shows the crosses for three graves. Is someone else about to die?

Does fugitive Kate have a link with cop Ana Lucia?

Is Libby, the psychologist, really Karen DeGroot, one of the originators of the Dharma Initiative mentioned in the training film? Or could she be one of "The Others" — maybe even Alex, Rousseau's daughter?

Nov. 23

Two episodes ago, Ana Lucia, fearful of The Others, mistakenly killed Shannon, squashing the budding romance between her and Sayid. And what to make of her Rambo-esque survival skills? "Ana Lucia's ability to defend herself and take charge when necessary may indicate some sort of military or covert operational background," says Lost fan Susie Kruise of Altoona, Pa. But can Ana Lucia's skills match those of Sayid, a former member of Iraq's notorious Republican Guard?

As for the kidnapped survivors who have Ana Lucia on edge, Jin and Mr. Eko's teddy bear sightings may be a sign that some are still alive. But where are they?

Nov. 16

Last week, a wet Walt appeared again on Lost. Before Shannon was shot, he spoke unintelligibly to her. But when Walt's words are played backwards, is he saying: "They're coming, and they're close"?

Also last week, in the hospital where Shannon's dad died, you see Jack hurrying by in his scrubs. Was Jack's future wife — who was in the hospital after an auto accident — the driver of the SUV that killed him?

We probably won't get answers Wednesday in the extended episode (9-10:05 ET/PT) that focuses on the tail-section survivors.

Incidentally, more than 15,000 readers voted online last week: 21% felt the producers had picked the right character to kill; 34% said they would have preferred Ana-Lucia (Michelle Rodriguez) to die.

Nov. 9

• It's the number of stitches on a major-league baseball. (This ties into the Yankees' retired-number theories covered earlier.)

• It's a sacred number in Buddhism; a prayer strand traditionally has 108 beads. (This ties into the name of the mysterious island project, the Dharma Initiative.)

• It's approximately the number of minutes some satellites take to circle Earth.

Then there is the overriding theme of fatherhood, with close examinations of the complex and troubled relationships of Jack, Sawyer, Jin and Sun, and Locke with their respective fathers — and, of course, Michael's rebuilding of his relationship with Walt.

October 27

•The teddy bear. What's the significance of one of the Others carrying a tattered stuffed toy as he or she walked by Eko and Jin, hidden in the brush? It could be a literary reference to the Lost Boys of Peter Pan. That person could be Alex, Danielle's child, who was taken as a baby 16 years ago. Or it could be the same teddy bear that was on Desmond's bunk in the hatch. (Lost and Found)

•Those digits. The magic numbers — 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42 — have all been retired by the New York Yankees, worn by Lou Gehrig, Yogi Berra/Bill Dickey, Thurman Munson, Whitey Ford, Don Mattingly and Jackie Robinson, respectively. (Of course, that doesn't account for 3, 5, 37 and 44 — Babe Ruth, Joe DiMaggio, Casey Stengel and Reggie Jackson — among others.)

•That swan.One of last week's clues was in error: The shark and the wall in the other survivors' bunker did have Dharma Initiative logos, but they weren't the "swan" logos found in the hatch. They were similarly shaped, but — as viewed quickly and in dim light — had different symbols. (Everybody Hates Hugo)

October 19

• The shark that chased Sawyer and Michael on the raft had a Dharma Initiative mark on its fin. Another apparent Dharma logo was at the compound where the new group of survivors was found. (Adrift)

• The actor who played Hurley's boss, Randy (Billy Ray Gallion), played Locke's boss, too — also named Randy. (Everybody Hates Hugo)

• The numbers 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42 total 108, which is the number of minutes the computer operator has to reset the counter. (Man of Science, Man of Faith)

168

angryCHAIR
Donor
ID: 98192416
Thu, Feb 09, 2006, 14:35

#165

I saw the film based on the book. I noticed that too last
night (you beat me to it)

A great short film.

169

katietx
ID: 5615158
Thu, Feb 16, 2006, 19:32

So was everyone just bored with last night's episode?

I'll admit it wasn't one of the best, but it did give some interesting background to Sayid, at least how he came to be a "torturer."

170

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Thu, Feb 16, 2006, 20:01

A couple notes from last night ...

Kate's father initially caught Sayid, and was holding Kate's photo enroute to Sayid's release.
Kate

When the counter reached zero, it started flipping to some red and black egyptian hieroglyphs ... those hieroglyphs translate to "Cause to Die".
hieroglyphs

The name of the prisoner is Henry Gale. Henry Gale is the name of Dorothy's uncle in The Wonderful Wizard of Oz. He claims to have arrived on the Lost island by balloon. In the Oz stories, the Wizard arrived at Oz from America in a balloon.

Next week is a repeat of the 2-hour pilot (episodes 1.01 and 1.02) from Season 1. A new episode titled "Maternity Leave" (episode 2.15) will air on March 1.

171

Tree
ID: 121271618
Thu, Feb 16, 2006, 21:42

man, i LOVED last night's episode. i thought it was one of the stronger ones...

172

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Thu, Feb 16, 2006, 21:49

I thought both the last two episodes were top shelf. Well anything following that crappy Charlie episode had to be good...

Going to watch them back to back later tonight. Slow night on TV.

173

allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 50902421
Thu, Feb 16, 2006, 21:51

At the end of the show I was thinking... Wow - I did forget about that stuff. The look on Charley's face made me think he was thinking the same thing.

Also, how to interpret the expression on Henry's face after Jack busts in... It really made me think of Gollum, for some reason...

Also interesting how unlikeable a lot of the characters are becoming... I mean, think of that poor frog! ;)

174

Davis
ID: 8041210
Fri, Feb 17, 2006, 06:57

that frog segment seemed like an excuse to get sawyer on the screen. After all he has been named some sort of tv's hottest new star or something...

but otherwise the episode was amazing... and henry gale's look said it all i think...

175

Tree
ID: 1411442914
Fri, Feb 17, 2006, 09:12

i dunno.

i have a feeling that something that seems small now - like the crushing of the frog - will play a bigger role later - some sort of "upsetting the balance" deal, or maybe, thinking back to the speech Zeke made, about coming into someone else's house, and not messing with it...

176

katietx
ID: 5615158
Fri, Feb 17, 2006, 09:47

Okay, now I'm rethinking the episode.

Yes, the look on Gale's face was a "Gollum" look. All we needed was a smile. *shudder*

I was going to mention the frog segment-at first I thought it was showing a softer side of Sawyer, boy was I wrong.

Honestly, it gets confusing to me to track back and forth and remember somebody's father/brother/sister/wife/husband from previous shows. lol

As a side note, there is a company I've purchased silk from...dharma trading...hmmm might have to search their site a bit more carefully.

177

beastiemiked
Leader
ID: 03531815
Fri, Feb 17, 2006, 09:51

They've been setting Sawyer up to be the unlikely savior for awhile. They've shown his selfish side but haven't let us forget that deep down he regrets most of his actions. Eventually, he's going to end up sacrificing himself for the sake of another castaway. I just can't see in any other path for him especially since he's one of the audience's favorites.

178

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Fri, Feb 17, 2006, 11:08

When the timer hit zero, right before Locke reset it ... there was a scraping/grinding sound. Like metal on metal, or cement. Perhaps another part of the hatch has opened up.

In case you haven't seen these, here are a couple Lost-related sites.
Mega Lotto Jackpot

Tribute Page for Charlie from his band (Driveshaft)

179

gibby88
Donor
ID: 98192416
Fri, Feb 17, 2006, 22:23

Tosh: Thanks for the cubits!

AA: I feel the same way. The characters are becoming darker and darker.

Sorry. "Gollum?" What do you mean?

180

katietx
ID: 5615158
Fri, Feb 17, 2006, 23:04

Gollum - from Lord of the Rings!!!!!!

181

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Sat, Feb 18, 2006, 00:59

Wow. Hackers have taken down Lost-Media.com and Lost-forum.com. The incidents may not be related as different guys are taking credit for each hack. Lost-tv.com is moving really slow. Maybe it's going down too.

Don't visit them unless your firewall is up ... just in case.

The Hanso Foundation website hasn't worked for a couple weeks, but I'm certain this is unrelated.

182

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Sun, Feb 19, 2006, 19:01

Something my brother linked to me today: Kate running from her mother. Don't know if it was photoshopped or not, but found it funny and disturbing at the same time.

183

allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 50902421
Sun, Feb 19, 2006, 19:35

What am I missing here?

184

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Sun, Feb 19, 2006, 19:47

Read the sign closely.

185

allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 50902421
Sun, Feb 19, 2006, 20:03

Excellent! Looked at it three times before I saw it...

186

Tree
ID: 211391917
Sun, Feb 19, 2006, 21:27

hmmm...i must still be missing it...

187

DMAN
ID: 291081815
Sun, Feb 19, 2006, 22:57

look closely at the "I" word

188

blackjackis21
ID: 2813990
Mon, Feb 20, 2006, 00:05

Can someone give a 2-sec recap on the next episode's preview? My wife (and admittedly, me) would appreciate it as the DVR cut off a minute too early. I couldn't find it anywhere on google.

I did find some interesting speculation re: the frog - shouldn't be too hard to google for anyone curious.

Thanks.

189

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Mon, Feb 20, 2006, 01:15

Look under 'Next on Lost' for the video.
Lost Links.net

190

Tree
ID: 14157206
Mon, Feb 20, 2006, 08:06

ah..FINALLLY got it...lol...

191

katietx
ID: 5615158
Wed, Feb 22, 2006, 22:22

Ok, I know the olympics are on and rating will likely be wayyy down - but as usual I'm thinking in more sinister terms about the Pilot episode tonite.

Sarge (who never watches) even commented that maybe they will tell us what the *thing* in the woods was/is?

I know there's gotta be a reason other than showing Kate in her undies. ;-)

192

allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 50902421
Thu, Feb 23, 2006, 09:26

Reason enough! ;)

193

Tree
ID: 1411442914
Thu, Feb 23, 2006, 09:32

kate in her undies is more than enough reason to repeat the show.

it's not just the olympics, i'm sure, but American Idol.

194

ChicagoTRS
Leader
ID: 566152116
Thu, Feb 23, 2006, 13:23

As far as ratings I think it is probably the other way around...Lost and American Idol negatively effect the Olympics ratings far more than the other way.

195

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Thu, Feb 23, 2006, 20:02

Going back to post 89, the "Ultimate Theory" was revised and expanded recently. A good read for sure.
Ultimate Theory

196

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Thu, Mar 02, 2006, 02:01

Great episode tonight and lots to think about. A clean shaven Zeke. A mobile of Oceanic planes in the Dharma building. Mr. Eko acting strange again. And still no insight about this Henry Gale character.

Upcoming Episodes -
Wednesday, March 8 -- "Whatever the Case May Be" -- Episode 1.12
Wednesday, March 15 -- "House of the Rising Sun" -- Episode 1.6
Wednesday, March 22 -- "The Whole Truth" -- Episode 2.16 -- TENTATIVE -- POST PRODUCTION
Wednesday, March 29 -- "Lockdown" -- Episode 2.17 -- TENTATIVE -- FILMING

197

beastiemiked
Leader
ID: 03531815
Thu, Mar 02, 2006, 09:20

Ugh, another repeat next week. Really wish Lost was like 24 and just hold off on starting the season so all the episodes will be non repeats.

198

gibby88
Donor
ID: 98192416
Thu, Mar 02, 2006, 09:27

where the heck was Sayed this episode? with all his concern about the "prisoner"?

199

Tree
ID: 52028
Thu, Mar 02, 2006, 09:46

Zeke, appears to have been clean shaven all along. his beard, based on kate's finding, was false, as were a lot of the clothes the others wear on the island to make them seem a bit more rough around the edges.

henry gale (aka the wizard of oz) is using psychology to poison locke's mind.

i like that we finally saw Rousseau's daughter, and to a certain extent, is a traitor in the outsider's midst...

200

katietx
ID: 5615158
Thu, Mar 02, 2006, 15:07

Anyone want to venture the symbology of Eko cutting of the little squiggles (sorry, don't know what else to call them) from his beard?

Atonement? Threat?

201

gibby88
Donor
ID: 98192416
Thu, Mar 02, 2006, 22:06

a cleansing? he expressed (cofessed) his sins...

202

Tree
ID: 412835
Fri, Mar 03, 2006, 06:16

while i know Eko is not a rasta, there is a rasta traditional that cutting one's dredlocks is symbolic of starting over, a renewal, if you will.

i think in the Old Testament (Leviticus maybe?) there is a part about shaving one's beard as an act of mourning or purification.

i would not be stunned to find other religions that have cutting a lock to be symbolic of the same.

203

allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 50902421
Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 18:01

So... what IS the deal with those little plastic airplanes, anyway?

204

ksoze in Hawaii
ID: 31253108
Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 23:39

AA,
I don't know but for a Mackesson I'll ask Matthew Fox when I see him running by the house. He's renting his home just around the corner from my parent's house here, about a two minute walk away, right on the beach.

205

allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 50902421
Sat, Mar 11, 2006, 00:35

Better yet, if you see Evangeline running by the house, give her the Mackesson, compliments of me!

Ah Hawaii... sounds fantastic!

206

ksoze in Hawaii
ID: 32501118
Sat, Mar 11, 2006, 19:52

Oh I'm looking out for her, my brother in law says there are cast parties there all the time. I might have to do something about that little hobbit she hangs around with though...

207

allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 50902421
Sat, Mar 11, 2006, 21:33

No prob. Just pack him a little of that Longbottom Leaf and that should distract him for a good long while.

Pass the Old Toby on the left hand side! ;)

208

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 14:42

Funny link from my brother:

You and me ain't done yet Zeke...

Notice the name on the bus and who standing to the left of it. Hopefully this is an "insider" set joke.

209

katietx
ID: 31238219
Thu, Mar 30, 2006, 19:19

Anyone have a link to a screen shot of the "grid" on the door?

210

DMAN
ID: 291081815
Thu, Mar 30, 2006, 19:36

Here's one, link

211

katietx
ID: 31238219
Thu, Mar 30, 2006, 23:44

Thanks!

212

katietx
ID: 31238219
Thu, Mar 30, 2006, 23:45

ooppsss - nothing there. :=(

213

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Thu, Mar 30, 2006, 23:52

A number of map images are having bandwidth issues today. Here is one off hi-def with most of the writing enhanced. link

The Latin on the map translates as -
Aegrescit medendo - The disease worsens with the treatment. The remedy is worse than the disease
Sursum corda - Lift up your hearts (to God)
Credo nos in fluctu eodem esse - I think we're on the same wavelength
Malum consilium quod mutari non potest - It's a bad plan that can't be changed.
Cogito ergo doleo - I think therefore I am depressed
Ut sit magna, tamen certe lenta ira deorum est - The wrath of the gods may be great, but it certainly is slow
Hic sunt dracones - Here be dragons
Nil actum credens dum quid superesset agendum - Don't consider that anything has been done if anything is left to be done
Liberate te ex inferis - Save yourself from hell
Mus uni non fidit antro - A mouse does not rely on just one hole

214

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Fri, Apr 07, 2006, 21:00

Upcoming Episodes -
Wednesday, April 12 -- 9:00-10:04 - "S.O.S." -- Episode 2.19
Wednesday, April 19 -- No LOST -- Alias returns with a 2 hour season premier.
Wednesday, April 26 -- 9:00-10:01 - "Lost: Reckoning" An hour-long special
Wednesday, May 3 -- 9:00 - "Two for the Road" -- Episode 2.20 --TENTATIVE -- POST PRODUCTION
Wednesday, May 10 -- 9:00 --"?" -- Episode 2.21 -- TENTATIVE -- FILMING
Wednesday, May 17 -- 9:00 --"Three Minutes" -- Episode 2.22 -- TENTATIVE -- PRE PRODUCTION
Wednesday, May 24 -- 9:00-11:00 --"" --Episode 2.23 -- SEASON FINALE -- CONFIRMED -- RELEASED

Only 5 new episodes left, and lots to explain!

215

Tree
ID: 4034885
Sat, Apr 08, 2006, 07:52

as much as i love Lost, the repeated and such are getting really frustrating.

the producers approached ABC about this, and asked to go to a schedule similar to 24, basically starting in January and running through to May, with no repeats.

the network balked.

the producers counter proposal was essentially three story "arcs", where they run 7 to 9 episodes, then hit a slew of repeats, then repeat that process twice more.

i could deal with that.

216

Tree
ID: 4034885
Sat, Apr 08, 2006, 07:52

also - Tosh - thanks for the translations!

217

Boxman
ID: 582442813
Mon, Apr 10, 2006, 13:44

Interesting article on Naveen Andrews...

'Lost' star finds love, home in L.A.

218

Perm Dude
Dude
ID: 030792616
Mon, Apr 10, 2006, 13:50

Just read that ABC will release Lost episodes for free, on the web.

219

katietx
ID: 13311015
Mon, Apr 10, 2006, 17:36

re: 217 - a little May/December? But, good for him!

220

katietx
ID: 13311015
Thu, Apr 13, 2006, 14:23

I thought last night was pretty ho-hum. Other than the "healing" info, it was pretty boring.

221

gibby88
ID: 63471218
Sat, Apr 15, 2006, 20:52

Must agree. The last two have been average. I must admit "Henry Gale" is convincing in his role. Creepy, creepy, creepy.

I feel, maybe, we might start seeing the Locke of old again. The more self-reliant confident Locke, rather that the depressed, moody, insecure one we've seen most of this iseason.

He seemed to turn the tide in his efforts to understand the images he saw when the button was "alledgedly" not pushed. I miss the confident Locke. In no way should Gale make him weak.

I also thought Kate and Jack's adventure was a bit lame. Yes, seeing Michael finially is nice (a direction that will be nice to see played out regarding Walt) I wonder, though, if this year's fianle will center on Walt again?

Sorry to ramble.

Was Anna-Lucia in the cop show "Third Watch"?

222

katietx
ID: 13311015
Sat, Apr 15, 2006, 21:39

Was Anna-Lucia in the cop show "Third Watch"?

Nope...not unless she was a guest on a single episode. Are you thinking about the gal who played a sgt from the drug task force (?).

223

katietx
ID: 13311015
Sat, Apr 15, 2006, 21:42

Here's the link to Third Watch

Acress who played Cruz

Her real name is Tia Texada

224

Tree
ID: 143231519
Sun, Apr 16, 2006, 00:03

Ana Lucia is played by Michelle Rodriguez, who made her debut in the phenomenal "Girl Fight"...

i liked the reveal of the healing power of the island, and the fact that Rose knows Locke's "secret"...

i also think the Locke of old is coming back. i always looked at the numbers in the hatch is a metaphor for his wheelchair - much like he was trapped in that chair, he was trapped by those numbers...

225

gibby88
ID: 63471218
Sun, Apr 16, 2006, 10:08

katie:

they do look alike.

thanks.

226

angryChair
Donor
ID: 98192416
Mon, Apr 24, 2006, 14:32

TOSH:

So this week's episode is another "catch-everyone-up"
episode?

227

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Mon, Apr 24, 2006, 15:34

Correct. Although I have read there is a fair amount of new material.

Wednesday, April 26: 9:00--10:01 ~ Episode Special: "Lost: Reckoning"
Wednesday, May 3: 9:00--10:01 ~ Episode 2.20: "Two for the Road"
Wednesday, May 10: 9:00 ~ Episode 2.21: "?"
Wednesday, May 17: 9:00 ~ Episode 2.22: "Three Minutes"
Wednesday, May 24: 9:00--11:00 ~ Episodes 2.23, 2.24: "Live Together, Die Alone

There is a little information out about the upcoming "Lost" interactive game.

In what's being hailed as the largest interactive challenge based on a TV series, ABC and 19 other networks stretching across five continents are introducing "Lost Experience" — an Internet game that will feature a parallel story line that will give insight into the top-rated show.

The first clue will air on a May 3 episode, but network executives aren't saying how the game will launch or whether the critical clue will come during the broadcast or as part of a commercial break.

No further information for "Lost Experience" is being released, and network executives say future clues could pop up in any part of the world and on any medium. Fans from different countries will have to reach out to each other and trade information if they want to start sleuthing.

I hope I have to go to Fiji to look for a clue!

228

angryChair
Donor
ID: 98192416
Mon, Apr 24, 2006, 16:35

I need a job with LOST ...they work about as much as
Mr. Bush does. :)

229

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Thu, Apr 27, 2006, 12:37

Did I miss the new material in that recrap episode? Oh well, there's always next week.

230

angryChair
Donor
ID: 98192416
Thu, Apr 27, 2006, 13:18

I fell asleep

231

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Thu, Apr 27, 2006, 16:32

I think the only new stuff was the guy's voiceover. Boring!

There is a new set of mystery jigsaw puzzles coming out in early June. Based on the the hit ABC TV series, LOST, a set of four jigsaw puzzles each features a collage of images that relates to the specific theme of that puzzle. Once each puzzle is constructed and the collage is revealed, the builder will be treated to a secret to solving the mystery of the island. Each puzzle provides a specific and different clue, and best of all, there is a huge secret tie-in clue that can only discovered after building all four puzzles!

The puzzles were developed with direct input from the LOST writers and contain information that is not available anywhere else! Careful consideration has been used to reveal the type of information that fans will want to have, but not so much that it will ruin the viewing experience of the show. The puzzles are also designed so that the secret clues cannot be copied or scanned onto the web. The actual puzzle art does not appear anywhere on the boxes or in the images here on our site.
puzzles

232

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Wed, May 03, 2006, 21:05

The new game, "Lost Experience" begins tonight. Apparently there is going to an 800 number revealed, which reveals a password.

Use this password at the newly re-worked and re-activated Hanso Foundation website. That's all I know for now.

The website has been down for several months, and it's pretty trippy looking now. I'm sure there are all sorts of Easter eggs hidden in there.

233

Tree
ID: 247317
Wed, May 03, 2006, 22:20

holy crap.

now THAT was an ending...

234

beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Wed, May 03, 2006, 23:12

Pretty crazy. Wonder if them both getting shot had anything to do with them both getting DUI's recently. Loved the thumbs up by Jin.

235

allhair allstars
ID: 483422219
Thu, May 04, 2006, 00:00

I was thinking the same as Tree and bmd... that was crazy!

Did everyone catch the Hanso commercial during one of the breaks?

236

katietx
ID: 16437314
Thu, May 04, 2006, 02:12

Yep, caught the commercial.

Was totally taken off guard by the ending. Seems like Michael may have been "turned" by the others. Also, figure that he let Henry go.

237

Boxman
ID: 142144
Thu, May 04, 2006, 06:30

WOW! What an episode.

I wonder what happened first. Libby and Ana Lucia found out their characters were getting clipped so they went on a bender or the other way around?

I was hoping the Hurley/Libby storyline would have a point to it, but unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the case now and it'll be hard for Hurley to find out that she was in the psych ward with him.

Now I also don't see how Jack will find out about what his dad was doing in Australia. When Jack's dad was being dragged from that house by Ana Lucia, did he yell, "I want to see my daughter." I don't remember Jack mentioning a sister or even half-sister.

Michael is so driven to getting Walt back that I think he'll do anything. He's either brainwashed or he made a deal to get Walt back.

Also, I'm trying to come up with the way that Locke was paralyzed. Did anyone notice if Locke had the scar over his eye before he can put in a wheelchair?

238

Tree
ID: 284944
Thu, May 04, 2006, 07:29

Also, figure that he let Henry go.

nah. i figure that he shot and killed Henry. i'm thinking that it's less that he "turned", and more that he is so obsessed with getting Walt back, he will do anything to rally the troops - including shooting and killing two people he didn't really know that well, then making it look like he got shot by an "escaping" and dangerous Other.

Libby and Ana Lucia found out their characters were getting clipped so they went on a bender or the other way around?

I was hoping the Hurley/Libby storyline would have a point to it, but unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the case now and it'll be hard for Hurley to find out that she was in the psych ward with him.

again, i disagree. i'm not sure both are dead. i think Ana Lucia is, but i bet Libby hangs on for at least awhile, so we learn more about her back story. i do, however, think she dies by the end of the season, since the actress who plays her will be starring in a sitcom next season..

When Jack's dad was being dragged from that house by Ana Lucia, did he yell, "I want to see my daughter." I don't remember Jack mentioning a sister or even half-sister.

Jack may not know. but, man, didn't that woman look like Claire. Maybe it was her mom. Maybe Claire is Jack's half-sister?

Did anyone notice if Locke had the scar over his eye before he can put in a wheelchair?

happened in the plane crash.

also, i loved Sawyer's cameo in the scene with Jack's dad and Ana-Lucia. "I'm trying to WALK here!"

239

Boxman
ID: 142144
Thu, May 04, 2006, 08:15

Sawyer is a walking classic. That's a character that ten years from now, people will be talking about.

"nah. i figure that he shot and killed Henry."

Interesting. We are led to believe that Michael shot himself in the shoulder. Perhaps as a fake attack from Henry to rally the others like you say. Oh wouldn't Boldwin and Nerveclinic love the parallels with various 9/11 conspiracies. I wonder if they watch this show?

To me, the Henry Gale character is a treasure trove of information. I would hope Michael didn't kill him. They must be clearing all these characters off the slate for a reason.

"i think Ana Lucia is, but i bet Libby hangs on for at least awhile"

Ana Lucia is dead. On the preview for next week they show her laid out on a table with them folding her arms across her chest. Libby needs to be around so Hurley can find out who she is. My Comcast flared up just at the right time towards the end where they show Mr. Eko saying something. That guy is great. I hope he plays a major role in the episodes before the season ends.

"Jack may not know. but, man, didn't that woman look like Claire. Maybe it was her mom. Maybe Claire is Jack's half-sister?"

Hmmmmm. Jack's dad did say he wanted to see his daughter. It would be worth a trip to Australia to go see your pregnant daughter right before she gave birth. Especially since we are led to believe that this would be his first grandchild.

Did they ever say how Jack's dad died?

240

Tree
ID: 1411442914
Thu, May 04, 2006, 09:04

Libby needs to be around so Hurley can find out who she is.

another reason about Libby not being dead yet is that her character never came to grips with her inner demons, whatever they may be. the other characters who have died (including Ana Lucia) all struggled with personal issues, finally seemed to be coming to grips with them, and then died.

241

katietx
ID: 16437314
Thu, May 04, 2006, 11:22

RE: Ann Lucia, on GM America this am the actress said her death was planned from the beginning - she knew when she signed the contract. She did intimate that Libby is also dead, but who knows?

242

angryChair
Donor
ID: 98192416
Thu, May 04, 2006, 12:35

Sawyer:

"Geuss that rules out snuggle time?"

Classic.

243

Mat Cauthon
ID: 551142198
Thu, May 04, 2006, 14:29

I believe it was:

"Guess that rules out cuddlin'?"

But yes, this was classic. So was the thumbs-up and subsequent giggle given by Jun and Hurley, respectively. That had me laughing out loud.

244

Uptown Bombers@work
ID: 190341910
Thu, May 04, 2006, 14:53

A great ending last night. I'm anxious to see how it plays out for thru the finale. I also do not think that Libby is dead yet. I think she will die soon, but not until we get her full backstory and she, as Tree puts it, "comes to grips with her demons".

Also, I suspect that Jack's "sister" is on the island, but that we have not yet met her. Perhaps another of the losties. I think I read somewhere that the producers had said another female character with connections to the main characters will be introduced by the end of the season, in the same way that the science teacher who got blown up by dynamite was introduced in the finale. I'll speculate for the sake of speculating that she is Jack's sister.

245

Mat Cauthon
ID: 551142198
Thu, May 04, 2006, 15:05

Does anyone think Eko is going to get killed off in the finale? The preview from last night seemed to imply him flying off a cliff or something after pushing what looked like a plane fuselage.

For the record, I think it's awesome that the writers of this show have the good sense/guts (take your pick) to kill off well-liked or impactful characters. And often times characters who are being played by well-known actors. It's a credit to actors like Michelle Rodriguez to sign on to a show for a few episodes, knowing that their character gets killed off before the end of the season. Another example of this is what I read on the Wikipedia 'Lost' entry, in which it says that Jack's character was originally supposed to be a much smaller part and get killed off relatively quickly. And be played by Michael Keaton. That would have ruled.

246

Tree
ID: 1411442914
Thu, May 04, 2006, 15:57

t's a credit to actors like Michelle Rodriguez to sign on to a show for a few episodes, knowing that their character gets killed off before the end of the season.

FWIW, that's the *only* way she would sign on. i read an interview where she described herself as a "lone wolf" and didn't want to be a long term regular...i suppose, that's a writer's wet dream in a series like this...

247

gibby88
ID: 63471218
Sat, May 06, 2006, 12:07

I will miss Ana-Lucia! She is gorgeous!

248

Mat Cauthon
ID: 551142198
Wed, May 10, 2006, 10:15

Any suppositions on what happens tonight? Or anyone want to hazard a guess as to how Michael now is the "one man who controls them all"?

Also, the preview synopsis last night says Mr. Eko enlists Locke's help to find a secret location he believes houses all the keys to the island's mysteries. This sounds promising. Is it under the Beechcraft plane or something? They appear to be pushing an old plane in the preview...

249

Boxman
ID: 2630259
Wed, May 10, 2006, 13:28

I wouldn't call Ana Lucia gorgeous, but she is hot in the bad girl way.

Ana Lucia is dead. Obviously. Libby is either dead right away or within the first 10 minutes. From the previews it looks like Eko falls off a cliff so I'm not sure about his status although I doubt he'll die because they haven't really finished his backstory yet. We need to know how his brother's plane got to that island.

One of the things I'm waiting for is Sawyer's Weekly One Liner.

250

Mat Cauthon
ID: 551142198
Wed, May 10, 2006, 14:21

Anyone want some hints as to what happens over the next episode or two? I'm new to this board, so I'm not sure what the general policy is on spoilers.

251

Mat Cauthon
ID: 551142198
Wed, May 10, 2006, 14:24

And while I'm at it, what is everyone's opinion on the relevancy of the Hanso Foundation website? There are lots of "current projects" on the site which could figure in to our survivors' story. Magnetic fields, genome research towards extending human life, population study and control, etc.

252

beastiemiked
ID: 18301915
Wed, May 10, 2006, 14:29

Keep them to yourself. If we wanted to know spoilers we could go visit the appropriate sites.

253

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Wed, May 10, 2006, 14:39

Posting spoilers is taboo. IMO.

The Hasno Foundation website is the current base source for the game "Lost Experience". It has already changed four to five times in the last week as passwords are revealed (it started with the Hanso commercial last week and the password 'breaking strain' used via the newsletter link).

This ad appeared in many major newspapers across the country yesterday. Remember 'Bad Twin' back in posts 162-166?
Hanso newspaper ad

254

Mat Cauthon
ID: 551142198
Wed, May 10, 2006, 14:39

Gotcha. What sites offer spoilers, by the way?

255

Boxman
ID: 2630259
Wed, May 10, 2006, 14:57

Just post them, remember the 1st Amendment. I would suggest you put the appropriate alert on the post though.

256

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Wed, May 10, 2006, 15:04

Re: Spoilers ~ Check out the forums here (you need to register for Wednesday night access) or here.

257

katietx
ID: 10415920
Wed, May 10, 2006, 15:08

Please no spoilers. Someone (can't remember) already did that w/American Idol.

258

katietx
ID: 10415920
Wed, May 10, 2006, 15:08

My bad in post 257 - it was Survivor spoiler - not AI

260

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Wed, May 10, 2006, 15:33

Saw this and find it annoying...

Author of Bad Twin is "Gary Troup". Rearrange "Gary Troup" and you can get "Purgatory". I'm telling you we'll see Bobby Ewing on this island soon enough...no wait...that the Hurley dream sequence thats already (unsatisfactorily) addressed...

261

Mat Cauthon
ID: 551142198
Wed, May 10, 2006, 15:57

RSF,

I think that theory's already been discredited, hasn't it? At least, Wikipedia lists it under their "Discredited Theories" category:

Discredited Theories

P.S. Love the stat tracker for Smallworld hoops that you debuted this year. In my opinion, it's one of the bigger developments that wasn't mentioned on this season's wrap-up thread.

262

ksoze
Leader
ID: 04619323
Wed, May 10, 2006, 16:03

In this article from USA Today the producers debunk certain theories about the show including the purgatory one.

263

katietx
ID: 10415920
Wed, May 10, 2006, 17:44

hmmm, I missed this clue (from the article above):

A baggage claim ticket for survivor Jack Shephard (Matthew Fox) appears to be dated Sept. 21, 2009.

264

Uptown Bombers
ID: 35616416
Wed, May 10, 2006, 17:57

re: the timeline

The info from this website says differently.

Gary Troup

Bad Twin is the highly-anticipated new novel by acclaimed mystery writer Gary Troup. Bad Twin was delivered to Hyperion just days before Troup boarded Oceanic Flight 815, which was lost in flight from Sydney, Australia to Los Angeles in September 2004. He remains missing and is presumed dead.

265

Mat Cauthon
ID: 551142198
Wed, May 10, 2006, 18:06

I'm so confused. I couldn't find that baggage claim ticket (but I'm a work, so couldn't do much digging). And that Hyperion website appears legit, but Gary Troup is a fictitious person. What the hell is happening? My imaginary life is corrupting my real life!

266

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Wed, May 10, 2006, 18:17

Here's a link to a screen save of Jack's baggage claim ticket.
ticket

267

Mat Cauthon
ID: 551142198
Wed, May 10, 2006, 18:35

Crazy. And cool. But I don't think I'm buying into the whole time-warp theory that some people have posited. Nor the collective consciousness idea that seems to be popular now, but that's mostly just wishful thinking.

268

Boxman
ID: 3942095
Wed, May 10, 2006, 19:32

Forgive me. I do not fly unless there is a substantial ocean between me and my destination. What am I looking for on the baggage claim ticket?

269

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Wed, May 10, 2006, 19:42

Boxman - The Date '09SEP21' is the date in question.

Going back to the Hanso newspaper ad I linked to in post 253 earlier today ... Gary Troup is fighting back!
www.garytroupbooks.com/

A NOTE FROM THE PUBLISHER:
We have received many calls and e-mails asking about the recent advertising campaign done by the Hanso Foundation about our recent publication of BAD TWIN. While we can't respond to you individually on this matter, please know that this issue is of great concern to us, and we are investigating what actions we should or shouldn't take in relation to this complaint. Meanwhile, thank you for your attention and consideration.

270

katietx
ID: 10415920
Wed, May 10, 2006, 20:28

Box...look in the lower edge of the ticket just to the right center.

271

Mat Cauthon
ID: 551142198
Thu, May 11, 2006, 09:29

Another great episode, and even more questions. Does anyone else think that the Pearl Station is just another Skinner box?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinner_box

Also, has anyone tried calling the phone number given during the Hanso Foundation commercial? And what was the website? I neglected to write it down and now I'm at work fuming because I can't remember what it was...

272

Mat Cauthon
ID: 551142198
Thu, May 11, 2006, 10:46

Re: #253,

Tosh, where does one enter the weekly passwords on the Hanso Foundation website? Or is there a different Lost Experience website where those are entered?

274

Mat Cauthon
ID: 551142198
Thu, May 11, 2006, 11:59

Just repeating what I heard on the 'Survivor' thread, but I'll delete it here if it will make you feel better.

275

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Thu, May 11, 2006, 16:41

Mat - The first password was entered when signing up for a 'newsletter', and sending a 'message to Joop' at the Hanso site. More passwords have been revealed since the first Hanso commercial, that are entered in the 'Bios' section. I'm sure that more websites will be added to the game in time.

If you don't want to figure out all the clues on your own, you can follow along here, here, or here (all in standard bottom-to-top blog format).

276

Mat Cauthon
ID: 551142198
Thu, May 11, 2006, 18:09

Thanks, Tosh. Yeah, I found the latest place where you can enter the password on the Executive Bios page, but for some reason when I put the password in nothing happens. Thankfully The Lost Experience webpage shows what happens anyways. Weird stuff.

277

rockafellerskank
ID: 49136120
Thu, May 11, 2006, 21:08

I'm dumb. I still dont see anything on Jack's ticket?

278

ksoze
Leader
ID: 04619323
Thu, May 11, 2006, 22:05

Bottom left corner "09Sep21."

279

Tree
ID: 474381521
Mon, May 15, 2006, 22:44

is not September the 9th month, and could the 9 be indicative of the month?

as for my theory.

i'm going to call it the Truman Theory, after the movie starring Jim Carrey. everything - is a set piece.

from the moment those people walked through the jetway and on to the plane, they were part of an experiment to see how people would adapt in a Lord of the Flies type of situation.

it's a gigantic set, underneath the Hanso Foundation building. every last thing that happens on that island is part of a control.

280

C1-NRB
ID: 17348117
Tue, May 16, 2006, 00:16

"Gigantic" would be an understatement.
I do think it's all just a big experiment, though.

281

C1-NRB
ID: 17348117
Tue, May 16, 2006, 00:18

After I hit "Post Now!" I thought of another similar movie- "Cube"

282

angryChair
ID: 63471218
Tue, May 16, 2006, 23:30

Tree: That seems to obvious. I hope the writer's can do better than that.

283

Mat Cauthon
ID: 19424168
Wed, May 17, 2006, 08:58

I'm with Chair. I think that some sort of social experiment or experimentS are part of it, but not the whole ball of wax. There's something more to the way all the characters are connected, too. Anyone ever read a kid's book called 'The Westing Game'? Lost reminds me a lot of that. A puzzle where no one is who they say they are, and everyone is linked some way or another.

284

Tree
ID: 1411442914
Wed, May 17, 2006, 13:05

maybe a much larger experiment? engineered from before birth?

285

Mat Cauthon
ID: 19424168
Wed, May 17, 2006, 13:10

Oooh, I like that idea. Maybe even with some 'Othello'-like familial relationships between some of the survivors (like Claire and Jack being siblings).

286

beastiemiked
ID: 18301915
Wed, May 17, 2006, 15:03

maybe a much larger experiment? engineered from before birth?

Hmm, that could be interesting. Like at the very end of the show you see Jack's dad and Hurley's imaginary friend come tell them it was just some elaborate experiment.

287

Mat Cauthon
ID: 19424168
Wed, May 17, 2006, 16:17

Yeah, like in that movie 'The Game,' with Michael Douglas:

http://imdb.com/title/tt0119174/

288

ChicagoTRS
ID: 15426514
Wed, May 17, 2006, 17:14

I like that theory...big experiment that started long before they set foot on the island...seems plausible. Makes a lot of things make sense like the sequence of numbers...and how all of the characters are connected in different ways...etc...

289

DMAN
ID: 291081815
Wed, May 17, 2006, 17:17

Good news re: Season 3, '"Lost" returns in late January or early February to finish off an all first-run third season.' No more freakin' reruns in between new episodes. :) link

290

Tree
ID: 1411442914
Wed, May 17, 2006, 17:29

bah. to me, that's AWFUL news.

seven episodes, then like 12 weeks with no Lost. 3 whole months?!?!?!

i'd much rather them do an 8 on, 4 off, format.

12 weeks with no lost? i think they tried a similar format with 24 a few years ago, and it was a disaster. blech.

291

DMAN
ID: 291081815
Wed, May 17, 2006, 17:53

No, I think they're waiting until January/February to start the new season, like Fox does with 24.

292

ksoze
Leader
ID: 04619323
Wed, May 17, 2006, 18:02

"After airing seven fall episodes, "Lost" takes a break while ABC tries out the new drama series "Day Break." And then "Lost" returns in late January or early February to finish off an all first-run third season."

A month and a half's worth of shows to start the season and then nothing for months.

293

DMAN
ID: 291081815
Wed, May 17, 2006, 18:05

OK, I'm an ID10T

294

angryCHAIR
ID: 63471218
Wed, May 17, 2006, 19:26

Hmmm? Not sure about that either. But I must admit, the many weeks off were a drag.

295

beastiemiked
ID: 18301915
Thu, May 18, 2006, 11:00

Another great episode. I thought for sure Michael had been brainwashed but it appears he's still making his own choices. Of course he did get that shot so maybe that did something to him. Also, did he really need to kill Ana and Libby to free Henry? Did none of them question how Henry got a gun or why Ana was sitting down when shot?

It was good to see some of the characters revert back to old. Locke away from the hatch is definitely a good thing for his character. Looks like Charlie is back on Locke's and Claire's good side. Sayid sniffing out Michael was great and reminded me of Sayid from early in season 1.

"Other" Alex is starting to be in the mix. I think she'll be a heavy focus either next episode or in next season. She's definitely not a true "other".

Can't wait for next week. Seems Locke thinks everything isn't real which if I were him would be what I would be thinking as well. I'm sure more questions will arise and I'll be PO'ed having to wait way too long for season 3.

296

Mat Cauthon
ID: 19424168
Thu, May 18, 2006, 11:17

I can't wait for next week either. This whole, wait 7 days for the next episode is killing me. No idea what I'll do when the season ends, although I might get sucked into The Lost Experience and start playing around with the websites advertised on those Hanso Foundation commercials. I have a feeling that that side game will continue even between 'Lost' seasons, which might be enough to tide me over.

I feel like Locke must be really confused and feeling conflicted now. On the one hand, he's just been shown what he believes to be proof that the island is a joke or a hoax, when he visited the Pearl Station with Mr. Eko. But on the other hand, the island was fundamental in restoring his "faith" in nature and survivalism, and also miraculously restored his health at least twice. Once with the wheelchair, and now with his fractured leg--the scene last night where he cuts off his splint made me excited. Jack predicted 4-6 weeks for his leg to heal. It's been, what, like a week at most? And he's walking on it? If Locke needed any more evidence than that for him to hold strong to his own version of "faith," then I don't know what else will do it.

Anyone have any ideas what the survivors will find on that boat? Looked pretty new and sleek (like the washing machines in the hatch, perhaps?). I don't want to get too excited about that ship, though. Somehow I think it will be a disappointment, both for them and for me. And will undoubtedly create more questions and open four, no eight, no no fifteen more cans of worms to resolve.

297

beastiemiked
ID: 18301915
Thu, May 18, 2006, 11:27

The boat is presumably for Michael when he delivers Hurley, Sawyer, Kate, and Jack to the others. When they gave Michael the list of characters I was hoping there was some random, aka sacrificial lamb for the producers.

298

ksoze
Leader
ID: 04619323
Thu, May 18, 2006, 12:32

Wasn't Desmond on a trip or race around the world in a boat?

299

angryChair
Donor
ID: 98192416
Thu, May 18, 2006, 12:33

Should we read into the "OTHERS" name?

Wasn't it Dr. Clue? Hmmm?

300

Mat Cauthon
ID: 19424168
Thu, May 18, 2006, 13:14

Yeah, I think the boat is more likely related to Desmond than Michael. For one thing, it's too soon for the Others to provide a boat for Michael--he hasn't lived up to his end of the bargain yet.

For another thing, Michael specifically requested "the boat," which I took to mean the little fishing craft on which Zeke and the other Others appeared to nab Walt, since this is the only boat that Michael knows they have.

Either way though, that boat is sure to have something or someone on it that will make me shout "NO WAY!" again at the TV screen, like I did last night.

301

Tree
ID: 1411442914
Thu, May 18, 2006, 13:24

I thought for sure Michael had been brainwashed but it appears he's still making his own choices. Of course he did get that shot so maybe that did something to him.

they drew blood. it was not an injection.

Also, did he really need to kill Ana and Libby to free Henry? Did none of them question how Henry got a gun or why Ana was sitting down when shot?

he had to kill Ana to free Henry. she was there at the time, and he had a job to do. Libby just was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

the second question is a good one, but i think it's easy enough for Michael to say that he went to kill Henry, and Henry surprised him and took the gun.

"Other" Alex is starting to be in the mix. I think she'll be a heavy focus either next episode or in next season. She's definitely not a true "other"

she's Rousseau's daughter. of course she's not a true Other.

Jack predicted 4-6 weeks for his leg to heal. It's been, what, like a week at most?

the island definitely seems to be able to "heal" non-fatal injuries/defects. We've seen it with Locke, and we've seen in with Jin.

302

Mat Cauthon
ID: 19424168
Thu, May 18, 2006, 14:30

...and Rose's cancer. She even implied to Locke on the beach that he should know not to expect to take forever to heal, alluding to his loss of his wheelchair. As far as I can tell, Rose and Locke are the only ones who know about the island's mysterious healing ability.

303

Tree
ID: 1411442914
Thu, May 18, 2006, 14:44

right. i knew there was a third one i was forgetting, and it's one of the biggest ones...doh!

304

Mat Cauthon
ID: 19424168
Thu, May 18, 2006, 14:57

Do you think the Others know about this aspect of the island?

305

katietx
ID: 10415920
Fri, May 19, 2006, 17:30

Just finished watching Wed. episode. Found it quite interesting when Dr. Clue asked Michael if Walt "appeared in places where he wasn't supposed to be." So they know Walt can transport himself - or appear to be transported.

Also, Eko's cross seemingly pulled by some magnetic force in the hatch.

306

Mat Cauthon
ID: 19424168
Fri, May 19, 2006, 18:12

I thought that was cool too, the magnetism in the hatch. Didn't we see that once before, with Jack and a gun or something?

Also, what's the deal with the dripping water coming from the hatch ceiling? Is there something ominous we should take from this?

307

katietx
ID: 10415920
Fri, May 19, 2006, 18:25

I noticed that too, Mat...but I think EVERYTHING is ominous. ;-)

308

jimmy
Dude
ID: 349182621
Fri, May 19, 2006, 22:20

Miss Clue = Miss Klugh

Finally! Desmond returns next week, though his character was brief, was one of my favorites.

DESMOND: Kelvin -- he comes running out of the jungle -- hurry, hurry, come with me. He brings me down here. The first thing he does -- because there's beeping already -- he types in the code, he pushes the button, and it stops. What was all that about, I say. Just saving the world, he says.

JACK: Saving the world?

DESMOND: His words, not mine. So I started pushing the button, too. And we saved the world together for awhile, and that was lovely. Then Kelvin died, and now here I am all alone. The end.

309

angryCHAIR
ID: 63471218
Sat, May 20, 2006, 10:51

Miss Clue = Miss Klugh..

Either way the writers are messing with us.

I agree about Desmond. I look FWD to see what more he will bring to the show. I would like to learn more about Kelvin too. How he died? WHere he was from? Etc.?

310

Mat Cauthon
ID: 19424168
Mon, May 22, 2006, 09:30

I watched (and re-watched) the preview for this week's finale when it was on during basketball this weekend. There's a scene shown of Jack (and Kate and Michael) standing next to a big pile of white and blue objects. Took me a couple viewings, but finally realized that those objects are the cannisters for the pneumatic air delivery system from the Pearl station. And each one had a journal in it. Crazy! That means that someone was there recording what the people in the Swan hatch were doing, and was doing so for a while. There looked to be thousands of those cannisters in that shot. What the hell were they doing just stacked out in the middle of nowhere like that? Is it just another Skinner box joke station? Do the cannisters just shoot out into the middle of the jungle somewhere to land in a big pile? Wish it were Wednesday.

311

katietx
ID: 554352217
Tue, May 23, 2006, 12:49

oopss she did it again

312

Tree
ID: 2848245
Wed, May 24, 2006, 06:16

well, she left jail the first time saying it was "cool", so i'm sure she's looking forward to going back.

313

beastiemiked
ID: 18301915
Wed, May 24, 2006, 14:52

What's the start time tonight?

314

ksoze
Leader
ID: 04619323
Wed, May 24, 2006, 15:10

The main show is 9 - 11pm EST, there's what looks to be a retrospective "catch up" episode from 8 - 9.

315

katietx
ID: 554352217
Thu, May 25, 2006, 09:12

So many questions!

1. Who exactly is Penny and why was she searching magnetic anomolies? Why did she think that would help her find Desmond?

2. I missed the 1st five minutes, but how did Desmond end up back on the island?

3. Why was Desmond in jail?

4. Why did Charlie seemed so unconcerned (at the end) about Eko not returning from the hatch?

5. What was that "look and nod" between Jack and Kate at the end?

6. How did the plane veer off course inititally? It must have or would have been on radar when it crashed.

Those are my first set of questions. I'm sure when I watch it again, I'll have more.

316

Tree
ID: 1411442914
Thu, May 25, 2006, 09:28

1. Who exactly is Penny and why was she searching magnetic anomolies? Why did she think that would help her find Desmond?

2. I missed the 1st five minutes, but how did Desmond end up back on the island?

3. Why was Desmond in jail?

4. Why did Charlie seemed so unconcerned (at the end) about Eko not returning from the hatch?

5. What was that "look and nod" between Jack and Kate at the end?

6. How did the plane veer off course inititally? It must have or would have been on radar when it crashed.

Those are my first set of questions. I'm sure when I watch it again, I'll have more.

1. Penny was Desmond's girlfriend. she was the woman in the photo with him that we've seen a few times since last season. he wrote her repeatedly from prison, but apparently her extremely wealthy father intercepted all the letters, and she never got them.

as a side note, while i don't remember her father's name, he apparently is the head of Whitmore Corporation, a company heavily involved with the Hanso Foundation.

she probably knew about the magnetic stuff because of her father's company.

2. he was in the boat that appeared at the end of last episode. Drunk as a skunk, because he kept trying to escape the island, but he couldn't. borderline insane at the start of the show.

3. we don't know. but it was a military brig, and his courage was called into quesiton a few times, so i'm wondering if it's some sort of cowardice/failure to follow orders.

4. another mystery.

5. another mystery, but part of me wonders if at some point after the fearsome foursome let Michael know they knew what was up, they formulated a plan with him.

Michael is Lando Calrissian, and he's coming to the rescue, and will redeem himself, before, probably, dying.

6. who knows. strong magnetic pull?

317

beastiemiked
ID: 18301915
Thu, May 25, 2006, 09:40

Was Desmond calling Locke "box man"? I probably just forgot but did Locke tell him he worked at a box company?

318

katietx
ID: 554352217
Thu, May 25, 2006, 09:46

It appears that Henry formulated the plan to get Kate, Jack & Sawyer to "their" camp from the beginning. Otherwise, as the apparent leader, he wouldn't have allowed himself to be captured.

And by telling Hurley to tell the others not to ever come "here" again, he is in fact setting up a senario where they WILL come looking, especially for Jack.

Also, if Henry knows where rescue is...why doesn't he lead his group to rescue?

Geez...this drives me crazy! ;-)

319

Mat Cauthon
ID: 19424168
Thu, May 25, 2006, 09:53

What a great episode! I HATE that we're going to have to wait 3 months for the next new stuff. But at least I'll have some time to catch up on the few episodes of season 1 that I missed.

Here are my thoughts on your questions, katietx:

1. Penny is Desmond's (ex-)girlfriend (obviously). And also the daughter of some high-powered exec who appears to have links to the Hanso Foundation, who in turn have a great vested interest in electromagnetic fields and their generation (going by the Hanso Foundation website). I'm not sure we're expected to think that she's looking for electromagnetic anomalies just to find Desmond, since that was never explicitly stated, but it's my only guess too.

Also--and I may get yelled at for mentioning this here--but a shadowy female figure named Penelope figures prominently in The Lost Experience website puzzles (given during the Hanso Foundation commercials during the show). In each one she casts some suspicion on the executives of the Hanso Foundation, and suggests that none of them are who or as compassionately good as they say they are.

2. Desmond ended up back on the island because no matter how hard he tried to navigate away from it, something always guided him back. My guess is that the electromagnetic nature of whatever's on the island made his ship compass go wonky, and he was unable to get a true bearing away from the island because of this. Guess he doesn't know how to navigate by the stars. Or else there's something even more sinister at work here.

3. I'm not sure why Desmond was in jail. Clearly something to do with improper behavior while in the military. Anyone else remember something that we're forgetting?

4. I dunno about this one either. Charlie started to creep me out again in this episode, after seeming like he was headed for redemption before now. I personally don't think we've fully seen the end of Charlie's less-than-good behavior. Or maybe he was just dazed from all the craziness that's been happening. Or by being kissed by Claire (who looked especially stunning in this episode). I know I would be knocked back on my heels a little too.

5. Was it just me, or did Jack look a little wild/crazy/slightly evil during this exchange? Even Kate looked like she might have insider information on the Others at this point. I think this show is making me paranoid. I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one who saw "a look" between these too, though. As if their capture wasn't entirely unexpected. Very exciting, that.

6. My thinking about this is that if the electromagnetic pulse was actually what brought the plane down, that it would probably also have been big enough to screw up radar in the surrounding area as well. But I've heard it said fairly frequently that the crash of the plane wasn't an accident. That there was some reason for these people being brought down here (although how they could engineer a "safe" plane crash and guarantee survivors, I don't know). And I'll buy into this, because I like the idea of all the Survivors being linked outside the island.

And how about these questions:

7. What the heck was that green bird? And why did it sound like Libby's voice?

8. What's Libby's connection with Desmond's storyline--her hair was very different in that flashback--and who's Dan (who she mentioned as her husband)?

9. What's the timeline between Kelvin (a classic That Guy, for Sports Guy fans) and Said's arrival on the island? I mean, Kelvin was the "spook" (CIA operative) in Iraq who made Said torture his own commanding officer. But then he's on the island for approximately three years before Said's arrival? Seems like the timeline here might be important.

10. And what about where Michael and Walt are being sent? What's the heading 325-degrees all about? Where does that end up? And did anyone else think that Walt seemed a little weird in his own right as he was leaving? Like the camera stayed on him on the boat a little long?

11. And what about Henry Gale actually being in a leadership position? And being angry with Mr. Friendly/Zeke for taking off his beard?

More to come, I'm sure. I'm getting more confused by the minute here.

320

Addicted
Dude
ID: 4611592518
Thu, May 25, 2006, 10:00

but a shadowy female figure named Penelope
I think the LostExperience character is Persephone.

But I thought the same thing last night until I double checked...

--Addicted--

321

Mat Cauthon
ID: 19424168
Thu, May 25, 2006, 10:06

Re: #320,

Crap, you're right.

Another question: what the heck is the deal with that creepy four-toed foot statue? Said's question is a good one. What's more disturbing--the fact that the rest of the statue is gone, or that it only has four toes?!?

Here's a random thought about that: a lot of people suggest that the pinky toe is gradually evolving off the human anatomy, since it's not longer really being used (although I really like mine). Could the Hanso Foundation have been doing some experimental gene acceleration thing that created a whole bunch of four-toed, extra-evolved people? This is a majorly crackpot idea. Forget I mentioned it.

322

katietx
ID: 554352217
Thu, May 25, 2006, 10:12

9. What's the timeline between Kelvin (a classic That Guy, for Sports Guy fans) and Said's arrival on the island? I mean, Kelvin was the "spook" (CIA operative) in Iraq who made Said torture his own commanding officer. But then he's on the island for approximately three years before Said's arrival? Seems like the timeline here might be important.

OMG! I totally missed that.

10. And what about where Michael and Walt are being sent? What's the heading 325-degrees all about? Where does that end up? And did anyone else think that Walt seemed a little weird in his own right as he was leaving? Like the camera stayed on him on the boat a little long?

Yes...that creeped me out a bit too. But I do think Michael will come back. His look back seemed to closely coincide with Jack & Kate's look.

How the heck would Penny know that Desmond ended up on the island? While she may be aware of her father's involvement in the Hanso Foundation stuff, what would lead her to think that Desmond just happened to crash his boat on that very island.

323

Tree
ID: 1411442914
Thu, May 25, 2006, 11:54

7. What the heck was that green bird? And why did it sound like Libby's voice?

8. What's Libby's connection with Desmond's storyline--her hair was very different in that flashback--and who's Dan (who she mentioned as her husband)?

9. What's the timeline between Kelvin (a classic That Guy, for Sports Guy fans) and Said's arrival on the island? I mean, Kelvin was the "spook" (CIA operative) in Iraq who made Said torture his own commanding officer. But then he's on the island for approximately three years before Said's arrival? Seems like the timeline here might be important.

10. And what about where Michael and Walt are being sent? What's the heading 325-degrees all about? Where does that end up? And did anyone else think that Walt seemed a little weird in his own right as he was leaving? Like the camera stayed on him on the boat a little long?

11. And what about Henry Gale actually being in a leadership position? And being angry with Mr. Friendly/Zeke for taking off his beard?

Another question: what the heck is the deal with that creepy four-toed foot statue? Said's question is a good one. What's more disturbing--the fact that the rest of the statue is gone, or that it only has four toes?!?

7. was it Libby's voice? really? whoa. i didn't notice that.

8. Desmond was buying coffee at an airport in the U.S., but didn't have any american cash on him. Libby was behind him, and gave him the money.

they got to talking. turns out Libby's husband bought a boat (The "Elizabeth" - named after Libby) to sail to the medateranean (never been able to spell it, never will) sea because he was dying, but he died before he could sail it. 12 months earlier.

she wanted Desmond to use the boat for his around-the-world trip.

i wonder if her husband's death led her to the mental hospital where Hurley was.

9. timeline - i'll have to look back into it. interesting.

10. Walt just looks weird because he had a growth spurt. he doesn't look 10 years old anymore. lol.

11. gale being the leader tripped me out. i still don't think his capture was intentional though.

12. four toes - it's homer simpson, obviously.

324

katietx
ID: 554352217
Thu, May 25, 2006, 12:02

12. - ROFL - wouldn't that be a kick in the head?

325

angryCHAIR
ID: 63471218
Thu, May 25, 2006, 22:09

What did the man say to Penny at the end?

"We found him." (?)

Statue reminded me of the Planet of the Apes a bit when the found the Statue of Liberty.

I, too, noticed th exchange between Jack and Kate...and Charlie's lack of "concern".

Locke admitting he was "wrong" to Eko was a powerful scene.

326

jimmy
Dude
ID: 349182621
Thu, May 25, 2006, 22:12

At the time, I wouldn't of thought that a man was down in that hatch, and when Locke was pleaded at the hatch window and the light appeared, I couldn't for the life of me understand what had just happened. But as time went by, with the discovery of a man (Desmond) below, which at the time seemed highly unlikely, I was glad that last night's final explained what had happened that brought about the light. When the light appeared to Locke, I felt it was a sign for him, but after last night, the issue of the light was more meaningful than I would have ever thought. I think Desmond was wrong about fate.

No sooner does Desmond reappear, like a flash he's gone again. :(

327

Tree
ID: 31434265
Fri, May 26, 2006, 06:42

agreed. the scene where Locke admitted he was wrong was amazing.

it was the first time on the island where he stopped "believing". instead of the being the man of faith he had been through the first 40 or so episodes, his faith eroded, and he suddenly trusted science over faith.

oops.

328

Mat Cauthon
ID: 19424168
Fri, May 26, 2006, 09:11

Re: #326,

I really liked that scene too. Like the personal survival and renewal of the respective "faiths" of both Desmond and Locke were accidentally (or fatefully) dependent on one another. Very gratifying.

As for question #12 (four-toed statue), I read somewhere that it's a literary reference:

From "Headlong Hall" by Thomas Love Peacock:

"'The place is quite a wilderness,' said Squire Headlong: 'for, during the latter part of my father's life, while I was finishing my education, he troubled himself about nothing but the cellar, and suffered everything else to go to rack and ruin. A mere wilderness, as you see, even now in December; but in summer a complete nursery of briars, a forest of thistles, a plantation of nettles, without any livestock but goats, that have eaten up all the bark of the trees. Here you see is the pedestal of a statue, with only half a leg and four toes remaining: there were many here once.'"

329

Mat Cauthon
ID: 19424168
Fri, May 26, 2006, 09:12

Although that could just be complete malarkey. That reference makes it sound like there were just four toes remaining on a once five-toed statue. And the statue we saw on Wednesday night was definitely designed with four toes.

Huh. Four toes. Creepy.

330

angryChair
Donor
ID: 98192416
Fri, May 26, 2006, 14:29

re: 325
What did the man say to Penny at the
end?
"We found him." (?)

Is that what was said? Thanks!

331

beastiemiked
ID: 18301915
Fri, May 26, 2006, 14:34

Can anybody answer my question in post 317?

332

Mat Cauthon
ID: 19424168
Fri, May 26, 2006, 14:36

I thought it was:

"we found it!"

If it was "him," then it would lend a lot more credence to the idea that they're looking for Desmond. But I heard "it," and assumed they were just looking for electromagnetic anomalies. Which in turn I thought could mean either Pen works for her Dad's parent company (Hanso), or that she's doing her own independent research, presumably because she thinks there's a link between the EMP's (go Matrix!) and Desmond's location/disappearance.

But I've heard various versions of both. I need to watch the whole thing again to check up on that and other things I missed.

333

Mat Cauthon
ID: 19424168
Fri, May 26, 2006, 14:42

One of the 'Lost' producers recently said:

"If you think you're still watching a show about people who crashed on an island, you're watching another show."

334

katietx
ID: 554352217
Fri, May 26, 2006, 16:32

They (the producers) are running us in circles! I know its a conspiracy! Liars!

I just watched the end again and I heard "we found him" - but I'm watching on my computer - not TIVO - and the sounds isn't so great.

335

Mat Cauthon
ID: 19424168
Fri, May 26, 2006, 16:47

I'm starting to lean towards "him." Mostly because if it wasn't "him," it'd be harder to explain and would just open (yet) another can of worms.

336

angryChair
Donor
ID: 98192416
Fri, May 26, 2006, 17:13

thanks.

now, if i could only figure all that out.

the "key" must be more than implied.

337

Mat Cauthon
ID: 19424168
Fri, May 26, 2006, 17:28

a'Chair,

Are you referring to my post #335 above? If so, I was trying to explain my position on the Portuguese Polar Researchers' last words:

"We found it/him!"

Their reasons for being there and doing that research for Penelope could vary a lot depending on what they say.

Does that help?

338

katietx
ID: 554352217
Fri, May 26, 2006, 17:30

I suppose my biggest question would be why the "others" didn't get off the island if they (according to Henry) know how to get rescued. How much fun can it be to live in huts on the rocks, wear grungy dirty clothes and eat fish all the time?

Oh yeah, and why (WHY!) did they want Sawyer, Kate and Jack. Ack - anyone have a valium?

339

Mat Cauthon
ID: 19424168
Fri, May 26, 2006, 17:48

Weird. For anyone who's been curious (like me) about show-related websites and such, the website for Oceanic Airlines has now changed to something strange:

http://www.oceanicairlines.com/

This used to be a semi-realistic looking travel site, with little show-related Easter eggs hidden in various places. Now it's a site entitled: "Possibility." And the only image is a weird blurry thing (with a file name of "W"). It looks like text to me. I'm going to futz around with Photoshop and try to clarify it.

340

angryChair
Donor
ID: 98192416
Fri, May 26, 2006, 17:58

Thanks Mat.

I meant "figure all that out" as in the new mysteries the
show has developed...not your post.

341

katietx
ID: 554352217
Fri, May 26, 2006, 18:14

re:341 - if you stand WAY back from it you can almost read it. grrrrr

342

Uptown Bombers
ID: 35616416
Fri, May 26, 2006, 18:44

I heard "We found it."

The link is to an article that supports that "it" claim. Its author titles it as "spoiler" since it deals with information about Season 3, but it is a good read with an interview of the producers.

Spoilerish Article

343

jimmy
Dude
ID: 349182621
Fri, May 26, 2006, 19:14

As for Kelvin Inman (Clancy Brown)...I got the feeling he wasn't quite at all like Joe Inman (Clancy Brown). So are they twins as suggested? I mean, Joe came across a whole lot different with Sayid, you wouldn't think he'd end up down in the ground pushing a button. Kelvin's personality was different than Joe, if you know what I mean.

344

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Fri, May 26, 2006, 20:35

Mat - I believe the site you linked to is a non-official fansite. If you add a dash to the link ... it takes you to the official site (which hasn't been changed in ages).
http://www.oceanic-airlines.com/

345

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Fri, May 26, 2006, 23:05

beastiemiked (317/331) - From episode 2.02 Adrift ...

LOCKE: Wait. Wait, wait -- you're tying up the wrong person.
DESMOND: How's that, brother?
LOCKE: It's pointless to tie me up, I'm not dangerous. But her, she's a fugitive.
DESMOND: So, what does that make you then, brother?
LOCKE: I'm a regional collections manager for a cardboard manufacturer -- boxes primarily.
DESMOND: All right then, box man, tie her up.

346

C1-NRB
ID: 17348117
Fri, May 26, 2006, 23:54

re 333: I will be severely pissed if they end this with it all having taken place in Walt's head like the series finale of "St. Elsewhere"

I don't even care about the circumstances of how/why Walt is imagining it (a Hanso experiment on children, he's autistic, etc.), it just won't work to cop out like that.

347

beastiemiked
ID: 36428317
Sat, May 27, 2006, 00:32

Thanks, Tosh.

re 333: I will be severely pissed if they end this with it all having taken place in Walt's head like the series finale of "St. Elsewhere"

I'm with you. I hope like nothing else that the producers know how it's going to end up rather than just making up everything as they go along. However, after knowing that Jack was supposed to die in the pilot and the fact that we haven't seen the "monster" at all this season makes me think we will be eventually be disappointed. Of course, it's really tough to tell right now, and besides anything on HBO it's been one of the greatest series I've ever watched.

348

angryCHAIR
ID: 63471218
Sat, May 27, 2006, 10:46

346-347:

Agreed. That would be a shame!

349

Tree, out of town
ID: 19492910
Mon, May 29, 2006, 11:18

re 333: I will be severely pissed if they end this with it all having taken place in Walt's head like the series finale of "St. Elsewhere"

definitely not happening.

the producers have already said that this is not a snowglobe situation, and even acknowledged it tongue-firmly-in-cheek, on air, with Desmond's comments about being in a snow globe...

350

C1-NRB, at in-laws
ID: 14112911
Mon, May 29, 2006, 12:11

I can't believe I missed the "snow globe" reference. These guys are good.

351

Mat Cauthon
ID: 19424168
Tue, May 30, 2006, 09:22

Re: #346-347, et al,

Yeah, this would suck, but thankfully the producers have discredited this idea as mentioned by Tree in #349. I posted a link in #261 to a list of theories that have been discredited by the producers, which is relieving to read.

Re: #344,

I'm an idiot. Thanks for pointing that out, Tosh. There's a serendipity of non-official sites out there. It's hard to keep track of which ones are show-supported and which ones aren't.

352

skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Thu, Jun 01, 2006, 08:54

#325/335:

Definitely said, "We found IT". Watched that scene several times, and then watched the whole finale again last night.

353

Mat Cauthon
ID: 19424168
Thu, Jun 01, 2006, 09:14

Re: #352,

Yeah, I see that's been confirmed elsewhere too.

Also, I read on Wikipedia that when the green bird flies out of the jungle, the closed-caption subtitles say, "Hurley!" Which confirms that the bird did indeed say his name.

And one question that I can't remember if anyone asked or answered--did we ever hear the correct answer to the "snowman" riddle that Kelvin Inman asked Desmond upon Des's arrival on the island? I know that Desmond answered "smells like carrots, doesn't it," but I'm not sure that's the right answer. Kelvin seemed to be looking for more.

354

Mat Cauthon
ID: 19424168
Thu, Jun 01, 2006, 10:51

Also, who is Radzinsky--the guy that Kelvin Inman claims was in the hatch before him, and who he says started the "map mural" of all the different hatch locations?

And what are we supposed to infer from the fact that the number that appeared on the Brazilian polar outpost guys' computer, 7418880, is the result of multiplying all of The Numbers together? And didn't those guys say something about having "missed it again," before they call Penelope to say that they had "found it"?

And finally, as far as timelines go, if it's daylight somewhere in one of the two global poles (assuming that's where the polar outpost is), and it's apparently nighttime wherever Penelope is, can we make an educated guess as to their respective locations?

355

angryCHAIR
ID: 63471218
Mon, Jun 12, 2006, 09:01

Man indicted in robbery of 'Lost' star
From United Press International
June 12, 2006 7:17 AM EDT
HONOLULU, Jun 10, 2006 (UPI via COMTEX) -- Bail was set at $1 million in Honolulu for the man suspected in six robberies, including that of "Lost" star Josh Holloway.

Ruben Royce, 21, was a neighbor of Holloway's in the Hawaii Kai neighborhood of Honolulu, KITV-TV, Honolulu reported.

Holloway, who portrays Sawyer in the ABC series, and his wife were robbed of their credit cards and car by a masked man who entered their home as they slept in October. Prosecutors claim the incident was part of a three-week crime spree masterminded by Royce.

In addition to the robberies, Royce will face attempted murder charges for allegedly firing a gun during a break-in near the University of Hawaii and injuring an elderly woman when he allegedly forced her door open, prosecutors said.

"Cooperating witnesses" helped authorities tie the string of robberies together, officials said.

Royce's attorney said his client would enter innocent pleas to all 30 felony counts handed down Thursday by an Oahu grand jury.

URL: www.upi.com

356

jimmy
ID: 387471216
Sun, Aug 13, 2006, 00:02

Now we have the meaning

DHARMA Initiative

Department of Heuristics And Research on Material Applications Initiative

Little is known what the actual explanation behind the name is, although a heuristic is a particular technique of directing one's attention in learning, discovery, or problem-solving Heuristic Also, in the Sri Lanka Video, Alvar Hanso (standing in front of the DHARMA acronym) says "it also stands for the one true way".

357

jimmy
ID: 387471216
Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 16:38

Season 3 preview, nice to know Desmond will be back. Season 3

358

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 17:06

Season Three Starts October 4!
The much-awaited third season of Lost will continue to air on its Wednesday 9e/8c timeslot starting on October 4. The show will air all original episodes for six or seven weeks in a row, then will be replaced by midseason replacement Day Break (starring Taye Diggs) for 13 weeks. The show will return sometime in the first quarter of 2007 (likely February) and will run all original episodes (no repeats!) until season's end in May.

359

Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 17:22

As of now, this is the schedule.

October 4 - November 8: 3.1 - 3.6
November 15 - January 31: Hiatus
February 7 - May 30: 3.7 - 3.23

Wednesday, October 4: 9:00-10:00
Episode 3.1: "A Tale of Two Cities"
Kate-Centric Season 3 Premier - Directed by Jack Bender.
TENTATIVE -- POST PRODUCTION

Wednesday, October 11: 9:00-10:00
Episode 3.2: "Further Instructions"
Claire-Centric
TENTATIVE -- PRODUCTION

Wednesday, October 18: 9:00-10:00
Episode 3.3: "The Glass Ballerina"
Sun-Centric - Written by Jeff Pinkner and Drew Goddard. Directed by Paul Edwards.
Filming dates: 8/29-9/12
TENTATIVE -- PRE PRODUCTION

Wednesday, October 25: 9:00-10:00
Episode 3.4: "Every Man for Himself"
Desmond-Centric
TENTATIVE -- PRODUCTION

360

angryCHAIR
ID: 157142520
Fri, Aug 25, 2006, 21:45

For Season 3 PROMOS go to

www.youtube.com

361

Rendle
ID: 9826411
Fri, Sep 15, 2006, 12:19

Just watched the whole 2nd season in 2 days. It's interesting but also frustrating how they just keep adding more questions than answers. I agree with the general sentiment that the writers better have this planned out well so we don't get some cliche' ending. New season starts in 2 1/2 weeks. Lost and 24 will be the only 2 shows I watch on TV.

362

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Fri, Sep 15, 2006, 14:08

I've been working through "a disk a day". I'm on Disk 5 now.

If only these people would talk to each other...

363

angryCHAIR
ID: 157142520
Sun, Oct 01, 2006, 14:54

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpqYe6beNwU

364

Addicted
ID: 238272315
Sun, Oct 01, 2006, 16:50

Full Dharma Video

365

jimmy
ID: 88482314
Sun, Oct 01, 2006, 20:03

Alvar Hanso's confession

366

Rendle
ID: 9826411
Wed, Oct 04, 2006, 10:49

Anyone else excited for tonight? There are a ton of unanswered questions. The writers/producers could really mess this up so I'm kinda skeptical as to how everything turns out.

I didn't really like the ending to the first season but I loved the beginning of the 2nd season so tonight should be interesting.

367

jimmy
ID: 1292320
Wed, Oct 04, 2006, 16:17

The song "Downtown" will start off the show tonight.

Kate gets treated to a shower, a new dress, and breakfast on the beach, complements of fake Henry.

We get to see what fake Henry and Others were doing on the 815 crash day.

I've been ready for new episodes.

When will someone start a Season 3 thread?

368

katietx
ID: 357543117
Wed, Oct 04, 2006, 19:11

Guess you could start it jimmy. lol

369

Tree
ID: 46946420
Thu, Oct 05, 2006, 00:00

HOWEVER.

Jimmy - PLEASE don't post things about the show in this thread before they have happened.

it's one thing after the show has aired, but before hand, it's a spoiler, and they're not welcome.

i LOVED the beginning of the show. for a minute, i thought i was watching desperate housewives.

370

Rendle
ID: 9826411
Thu, Oct 05, 2006, 00:39

I'll agree with Tree that I loved the first 5 minutes, the rest of the episode was nothing to write home about. One think you can usually count on is the ending to contain some kind of twist/revelation. Finding out Gale's name was lame. It seemed like the only thing that happened after the first scene was the the Jack's dad teaser which turned out to be false. Guess they're just slowly building up to the end of the 7 episode run.

371

tommyd
ID: 36858254
Thu, Oct 05, 2006, 06:57

Re post 369 had the saem feeling as well about watching Desperate Housewives. Not that I watch it or anything..........

372

jonn2
ID: 399402415
Sun, Oct 24, 2010, 16:40

comment5,

373

jonn1
ID: 549532415
Sun, Oct 24, 2010, 16:53

comment4,

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