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| Posted by: Canadian Strikers
- [183102923] Thu, May 02, 2002, 23:46
Not sure if anyone saw the end of the Raptors game, on TSN (TBS), but I just have to make a comment. Thought I'd do it here because I think most of us are Canadians, and the Basketball forum is more than likely full of obnoxious Americans who would just find a way to put me down.
Anyway, with 2 or 4 minutes left in the game there were 2 plays that essentially decided the outcome of this game. 1) Keon Clark called for a foul on the all ball steal (Confirmed by TBS on replay). Outcome: 2 points for Detroit on free throws. 2) Chris Childs called for the out of bounds. Did he ACTUALLY step out of bounds? I only saw the reply once, but it was VERY close and I honestly don't think the back of his heel touched the line... His heel may have been OVER the line, but I swear that I saw space between his heal and the line. Outcome: Toronto loses a valuable possesion, with ~35 seconds to go!!!
Both the NHL and NFL have realised that officials make mistakes, and should NOT be relied on to make important calls. The NHL and NFL both use video replays to ensure that the game is decided in a fair manner. The outcome of the game will not be affected by a misjudged call. Why has the NBA not looked into using the video replay, especially when games can be decieded by the smallest of margins. I'm not a crazy "Torontonian", I actually live on the East Coast, but I like following the Canadian teams and seeing the Raptors go down and out because of a couple of questionable calls is just not right.
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| | | 1 | Chris
ID: 24910517
Thu, May 02, 2002, 23:51
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What do "obnoxious Americans" have to do with this? Your point seems to be that the NBA needs instant replay(which I disagree with btw, I would like to see the NBA keeps it's faced pace action, and not slow down like the NFL and NHL tend to do...although hockey has less TV timeouts, which helps). I'm not sure why nationality would have anything to do with that notion.
Are you also saying there's a bias against Canada??
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| | | 2 | ¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
ID: 284830
Fri, May 03, 2002, 00:08
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Barney got run over.
:-Þ
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| | | 3 | Canadian Strikers
ID: 183102923
Fri, May 03, 2002, 00:42
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The TBS announcers were very biased, favouring the Pistons and picking at every single Toronto mistake.
I brought the whole Canada/America thing in because I thought that any American's might immediately favour the Pistons, and disregard any of the points I was trying to make.
As for the replays... I would rather slow the game down a fraction and get a fair result. A team that wins 12 of their last 14 games to make the playoffs, after losing something like 17 of 18 games earlier in the season, deserves a fair shot at advancing. My suggestion would be to sit two people down at courtside with a tv monitor, and to have them signal the officials if there was ever a situation where a replay was warranted.
Barney will be back next year, with his pal Vince:)
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| | | 4 | Chris
ID: 24910517
Fri, May 03, 2002, 00:56
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With all due respect, I think it would slow down the game more than a fraction, because there are several questionable calls made throughout any game, such is the nature of basketball. Every single foul is debatable, and it's really hard to reverse a judgement call.
I do agree that replay should be used to determine whether or not a shot should count or not(buzzer beaters), but I'm not sure if the NBA would benefit from having every questionable call reviewed.
Just my personal opinion. Congrats to your Raptors, they showed a lot of heart this season.
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| | | 5 | sosa
ID: 13383014
Fri, May 03, 2002, 01:03
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The referees didn't let Corliss Williamson get wide open for a layup in the final minute with 2 seconds available to shoot. The referees weren't the ones that lost track of the clock (?) and launched a ridiculous looking shot at the end. And so on.
Hey I'll give the Raptors some credit, they took care of business at home in the series and other than that egg they laid in Game 1, they had their chances in Games 2 and 5 but the bottom line is that they couldn't get it done at The Palace. Maybe if they win 50 games next year like the Pistons they'll have home court advantage in the deciding game.
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| | | 6 | kev
ID: 15357192
Fri, May 03, 2002, 08:06
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Im Canadian, and I dont get how people being from the US would mean they favour the Pistons...
The Keon Clark call was iffy, but in that situation, they make the call. Calls like that go both ways many times a game. Childs did step out of bounds.
If we are gonna talk about the need for instant replay, lets talk about the Reggie Miller 3 that counted in the 4th after time had run out...
The Raps played great ball. But the better team did win.
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| | | 7 | perk9600
ID: 12310312
Fri, May 03, 2002, 12:57
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I think people are more likely to be biased based on what team they like then what country the team plays in. I didn't see the game you are reffering to and if I did I'd give you my unbiased opinion since I can care less who wins or where they play.
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| | | 8 | kootro
ID: 82222617
Fri, May 03, 2002, 15:29
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the last five minutes of a close basketball game already take half of hour of real time. I think that factors into the reasons why the NBA might not see instant (<-- not an accurate word) replay as viable.
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| | | 9 | Puckprophet
ID: 54371812
Fri, May 03, 2002, 22:38
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if you lowered the hoop to 8 feet , you could attract a whole new demograhic of losers/lowlife..
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| | | 10 | The Grim Reaper
ID: 45344413
Sat, May 04, 2002, 12:33
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If any sport needs instant replay, it's baseball. I see more blown calls in baseball than in any other sport. Especially at 1st base and home plate to determine whether a player is safe or out. Baseball needs replay BIG TIME.
I currently live in the U.S. and I despise the Lakers. Always have, always will. If the Lakers were playing the Raptors in the finals I would root for the Raptors all the way.
Why do Canadians think American's hate them? I certainly think Canadians in general are pretty cool people and classy too.
Anyway, instant replay would not hurt the NBA on a possesion call. Fouls in the NBA like balls & strikes in MLB and penalties in the NHL & NFL are purely judgement calls. I say bring replay in & give each team 1 challenge per half which won't slow the game down all that much.
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| | | 11 | Dan
Sustainer
ID: 0229323
Sat, May 04, 2002, 16:22
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BASEBALL!?? Heck no, if one game isn't already slow enough its baseball. We do not need Instant replay there, heck no.
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| | | 12 | KGH
Donor
ID: 51443418
Sat, May 04, 2002, 18:56
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Get over it. For 5 games the "Junk Yard Fraud" Jerome Williams got away with fouls at every point of the game. There were some instances where Williams committed 2 or 3 fouls one possesion and nothing was called. Only in the NBA can a player get called for a Technical Foul for wanting to tie his shoe. Besides tell you fellow Canadian countrymen not to run on the floor and cause a disturbance in a game. I will say the 5 security guys sure made him pay for his stupidity.
KGH
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| | | 13 | Canadian Strikers
ID: 183102923
Sun, May 05, 2002, 18:16
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I think most people would agree that a majority of Americans think they are better than us Canadians. Anyone seen the latest Canadian ad with the American who asks the Canadian where his pet beaver is? I'm very patriotic msyelf. I'm a die hard pengiuns fan, but if they're not playing then I always root for the Canadian team. I guess I just assumed that most people where the same way.
With the Raptors out I probably won't watch much, if any, of the NBA Playoffs. Well, maybe a Mavericks game or two... you know why though? Steve Nash...
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| | | 14 | Sterdeus
ID: 3344866
Mon, May 06, 2002, 06:57
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One thing I hate about Basketball. The final 2 minutes of a game that is very close and the teams resort to fouling each other in the hopes that the players will miss the free throws. To me, that is extremely cheap. Why cant they just play out the time like every other sport does. If other sports follow suit, we'll be seeing hockey teams attempting to injure Yzerman and Iginla in the final minutes and take a foul(penalty) for the team.
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| | | 15 | Chris
ID: 24910517
Mon, May 06, 2002, 07:12
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Basketball is a possession game, whereas hockey is not.
Consider it similar to a football team calling timeout while the offensive team tries to run out the clock.
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| | | 16 | andyman
ID: 12314116
Mon, May 06, 2002, 09:03
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Like a friend of mine once said - give each team 100 pts and 2 minutes on the clock. The way every game should be played.....
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