Forum: hock
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Subject: Kafenatid.net Hockey Tools/Schedules


  Posted by: KrazyKoalaBears - Donor [266182910] Sun, Sep 08, 2002, 12:34

First off, for those who didn't happen to follow the baseball season, Gleem.net has now moved to Kafenatid.net. It's a long story, but the short story is that a friend owns Gleem.net and when problems arose, I was powerless to get them fixed. I fully own, host, and manage Kafenatid.net, so it is in my complete control; the way I like it.

I plan on using this one thread for all Kafenatid.net tools and schedules updates, feedback, and general discussion, so if you have anything to say about them, say it here.

The first tool/schedule released is the 2002 NHL Schedule. One of the new additions you'll see to the 7 and 28-day schedules is some background color highlighting. As the explanation at the bottom of the page notes, this highlighting shows:

Green: Team plays 4 or more games over the next 7 days starting with the highlighted game date.

Red: Team plays 2 or fewer games over the next 7 days starting with the highlighted game date.

NOTE: These highlights only appear on the days a team actually plays a game. In a lot of instances, a team will actually qualify for one of the highlights on a non-game day, but the schedule becomes too crowded looking with all the highlighting shown and that highlighting isn't as important as the game day highlighting.

As you may have been able to figure out, if a team plays 3 games over the next 7 days, there's no highlighting.

Stay tuned for more updates.

 
1KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Sun, Sep 08, 2002, 12:39
Just FYI, it's my plan to have the following Hockey Games this year:

Pick'ems: Same as previous year's pick'ems. Pick the scores of the games and pray.

MadBall: MadPucks? Same thing as the Baseball version. The scoring will likely be points based just like the NHL.

TeamWork: Just like the Football version. Pick teams for offense and defense and rack up points based on team performance. Unlimited moves.

 
2Rogue's Strikers
      ID: 1284775
      Sun, Sep 08, 2002, 20:04
Great stuff KKB, now I can start picking my teams. Thanks again! :)
 
3Puckprophet
      ID: 54371812
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 19:04
how come we can't print the 28 day sched , ;) ?
 
4KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 20:10
File > Print doesn't work? Should work.
 
5Cuz
      ID: 555242718
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 20:24
KKB, that schedule is a very useful tool to have, thanks for the effort you put into it.

As far as the games you will be putting up, are they open to anyone who wants to sign up? I saw some of the results posted last year and they look like fun.
 
6KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Mon, Sep 09, 2002, 21:09
Cuz, anyone and everyone. The more the merrier! Just sign up for your Kafenatid.net Games account (top of the menu items on the left side) and you're good to go! I'll post info here as soon as the hockey games are available for signup.
 
7Puckprophet
      ID: 54371812
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 18:41
nope,not with netscape, the print and print preview buttons are greyed out...
 
8Matt S
      Donor
      ID: 22752811
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 21:07
Simple solution:

stop using that netscape garbage

:)
Matt S
 
9KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Tue, Sep 10, 2002, 22:10
Shows up fine in NetScrape 4.7 and NetScrape 6.1 on my computer. Maybe you need an upgrade or something.

BTW, just in case it ever comes up, I WILL NOT support NetScrape 7 until they release a stable version. It is typical that the first release of a new version of NetScrape is never stable, which is why we always have NS 4.7, 4.75, 4.8, 6.1, 6.2, etc. So until they do that, I will not design, nor alter code, for it.

 
10The Left Wings
      ID: 1668298
      Wed, Sep 11, 2002, 05:04
You see, the problem is that there's no IE for Linux machines.
 
11KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Fri, Oct 04, 2002, 21:21
UPDATE

The games should be ready for signups sometime this weekend. Here's the status of each game:

Pick'ems: Ready to go. Will open registration this weekend.

6-Pack: Fomerly "TeamWork". Same thing, new name. Finalizing scoring formula and upload of last years stats for research. Will open registration this weekend.

MadPucks: Hockey version of MadBall. Still working on this one. Have a few issues to work out about pricing and scoring. Will open registration late this weekend or early in the week.

Lastly, I'm going to try and get the Offense/Defense schedules up this weekend, so we'll see how that goes also.

So there you have it.

 
12philflyboy
      Leader
      ID: 407561421
      Fri, Oct 04, 2002, 21:37
thanks KKB, You Rock!!
 
13C.SuperFreaks
      ID: 228152922
      Fri, Oct 04, 2002, 21:52
KKB, very well done. Last year's id even works, beauty eh!
 
14KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Fri, Oct 04, 2002, 21:59
pfb, I try. :)

C.SuperFreaks, fortunately, the current database setup has worked out very well, so it's allowed me to maintain the site registrations as they were. All you will have to do is register a team for the game and you're set. Also, make sure your email is up to date using the "Edit Account" link in case you want to email your pick confirmation to yourself (recommended).

 
15KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Sun, Oct 06, 2002, 14:26
GAME ON!

Make sure you read the rules for each individual game so that you fully understand the game play and rules for each one.

 
16 Taxman
      Leader
      ID: 23852713
      Sun, Oct 06, 2002, 19:32
I'm not sure I "fully" understand the rules, but the fun available for the dollar spent ranks all of your games at the top of the scale KKB.

Thanks for the continued efforts:>)

Taxman
 
17KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 327481911
      Mon, Oct 07, 2002, 14:57
Just a reminder that the deadline for your rosters to be set for the first week of the season for Hockey 6-Pack is 12pm 10/09. If you do not have a roster set by that time, you'll miss out on the entire first week's worth of points.

In other words, get your lineup set soon!

 
18GolfFreak
      ID: 488423021
      Tue, Oct 08, 2002, 13:34
WOW!!! Great tool! Thanks for sharing!

 
19Rolodecks
      ID: 376351415
      Wed, Oct 09, 2002, 16:59
First of all, I love the site. Second of all, could you have it show the current day in the schedule as well? Today it's showing the 10th as the first day without an option to move it back to the 9th. I saw the schedule breakdown option, but it doesn't show it in the same format(ie. green/blue/matchups).
Just a suggestion that would have made my last minute changes easier today, thanks,
Rolo
 
20philflyboy
      Leader
      ID: 407561421
      Wed, Oct 09, 2002, 17:04
rolodecks-by now all of tsn games would normally be frozen so it would be working off of tomorrows trades.
 
21Rolodecks
      ID: 376351415
      Wed, Oct 09, 2002, 17:11
philfyboy: ah, I see. That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for clearing it up. :)
Rolo
 
22KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 327481911
      Thu, Oct 10, 2002, 09:38
FYI: The hockey game stats won't be updated until tonight. Sorry.
 
23KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 327481911
      Thu, Oct 10, 2002, 09:48
Also, I forgot to mention that the stats update delay will mean that tomorrow's MadPucks picks will not be available for picking until tonight, after the stats update occurs. Today's picks are still available until the normal deadline time.
 
24KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Thu, Oct 10, 2002, 21:28
Ok, stats and prices are up for both Pick'ems and MadPucks. I will have the Rotoguru Standings versions up later (possibly not until tomorrow).
 
25The Left Wings
      ID: 1668298
      Thu, Oct 10, 2002, 21:28
Woohoo
King of a Day in Pick'ems. That makes my season.
=)
 
26KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Thu, Oct 10, 2002, 21:38
Some good picking there TLW. The tie pick definitely helped.
 
27The Left Wings
      ID: 1668298
      Thu, Oct 10, 2002, 22:30
Hehehe
When in doubt, pick a tie. =)
 
28The Left Wings
      ID: 1668298
      Thu, Oct 10, 2002, 22:40
Well, forget about the season... In the 6 games that's finished, I'm 0-6 for 0 points. So there.
If Prospal didn't score in the OT, I would have been 45 points richer...
 
29C.SuperFreaks
      ID: 228152922
      Thu, Oct 10, 2002, 23:03
TLW, not much better either, I'll be lucky to scratch out 5. But, it's only night #2.

Once again KKB great job on the coding to get this all up and running for the start of the season. The site looks great. I love the no clutter look of a web site.

question: How in the hell to find time to get this all done? It just blows me away how you, Doom, and a few others can code so well.

Good to see everyone back again!
 
30simbot
      ID: 428141021
      Fri, Oct 11, 2002, 10:25
Looks like there's a problem with the full season schedule, for October 11th it seems like it has the games played on October 9th.
 
31KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 327481911
      Fri, Oct 11, 2002, 11:04
Thanks for the head's up simbot. Technically, the problem is that the dates are wrong, but it really doesn't make much sense to show games for days that have already passed, so I'll work on that part of it to fix it.
 
32Cool Canuck
      ID: 219281111
      Fri, Oct 11, 2002, 11:33
From what I can see, some of the best two-week schedules are Vancouver, NYR and Toronto.

Do people see any others ?
 
33Sampson
      ID: 111002213
      Fri, Oct 11, 2002, 12:25
KKB

Remember me??
 
34KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 327481911
      Fri, Oct 11, 2002, 12:46
Didn't we have some "good" debates last year? :)
 
35Sampson
      ID: 111002213
      Fri, Oct 11, 2002, 13:32
Exactly.. some of those "good" debates turned pretty ugly. hahaha.. u know.. contacting the school i went to and stuff.. that was just classic.

anyways.. nice job on the scheduling system you have up. kudos! ill try be less of a pain in the ass this year. i am only playing the basic game. are u doing ultimate only?
 
36KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 327481911
      Fri, Oct 11, 2002, 13:44
haha. Nah, I'm just playing Yahoo and will likely continue that for a while.
 
37KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 327481911
      Fri, Oct 11, 2002, 16:48
Pick'ems Standings are up. I should have MadPucks Standings done later tonight. After that, the standings will be posted each morning, like normal.
 
38KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 327481911
      Fri, Oct 11, 2002, 16:52
Offense/Defense (Goalie) Schedules are up. Be sure to read the intro page so that you understand how the new version works. I will be working later tonight to make the Home and Away games more distinct for the opponent name (I can't use "@" for away games because of space considerations).
 
39KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Fri, Oct 11, 2002, 21:59
MadPucks Standings are now up. As mentioned above, both Pick'ems and MadPucks Standings will now be posted every morning in the Hockey Standings Forum.
 
40KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Fri, Oct 11, 2002, 23:16
UPDATE

The Offense/Defense (Goalie) Schedule now bolds any home game opponents name to differentiate from the away game opponents. Should be a bit easier to read now.

 
41Dr. Doom
      ID: 16142182
      Sat, Oct 12, 2002, 12:24
KKB,

I wanted to change my e-mail addy on your site, problem is I don't have a valid zip code (Canadian eh), so I had to make one up. Picked Denver, kinda like Calgary. ;~)

Later
 
42KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Sat, Oct 12, 2002, 12:28
Doom, that's fine. I don't use it right now anyhow. I'll have to change it to allow for different zips if I ever do. ;)
 
43KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Sat, Oct 12, 2002, 13:31
UPDATE

TSNP Calculator is here. If you find any errors, be sure to let me know. Everything should be ok though. Note the new games layout that shows the game score and the current Period/Time of the game.

NHL Standings are up. These are the actual NHL standings. I have the info in the databases, so I figured, "why not?"

 
44 C.SuperFreaks
      ID: 228152922
      Sat, Oct 12, 2002, 13:33
KKB, I am unable to see my teams for all 3 fantasy hockey games from my home pc. It's as if they have disappeared. Last time I was able to pick them was at work.

Any ideas?
 
45KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Sat, Oct 12, 2002, 13:34
Is your home computer setup to accept cookies? Try logging out and logging back in to see if that does anything.
 
46C.SuperFreaks
      ID: 549471213
      Sat, Oct 12, 2002, 13:54
thx, back in business. I had recently upgraded to ie 6 and it may have done something to my pc.
 
47KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Sun, Oct 13, 2002, 11:31
UPDATE

I fixed some of the naming "issues" with the TSNP Calculator. For instance, Martin St. Louis of TAM was being listed both as "St. Louis, M" and "St, M".

Also, work on the Sortables has slowed a bit. It seems that Yahoo isn't updating their Fantasy Stats download, so I'm having to convert the TSNP Calculator over to a stats download system. Work is proceeding somewhat slowly on this. Keep hope alive though. If I can get this worked out, then we should have Sortables pretty quick as the price update stuff is nearly complete.

 
48J
      Leader
      ID: 49346417
      Sun, Oct 13, 2002, 11:41
KKB - thanks for all your work, really looking forward to the sartibles!

New Offense/Defense (Goalie) Schedule is real fancy lookin, perhaps a little too much, IMO, any chance of a way to look at all teams at once? Like you've had in the past (ie-baseball, where you had pitching schedules based on Runs per game)
 
49KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Sun, Oct 13, 2002, 11:45
J, I've been thinking about that. It works for football because of the way I had setup the football offense/defense schedules in the past, but it's not as easy to use for hockey (and basketball and baseball). I'm looking into alternatives, so be on the lookout for something new.
 
50C.SuperFreaks
      ID: 549471213
      Sun, Oct 13, 2002, 13:23
aaahhh, I've had my warm pot of fantasy news for the day. I'm now highly caffeinated.
 
51rinkwide
      ID: 159351313
      Sun, Oct 13, 2002, 15:35
KKB,

Thanks for all your hard work. Do you have a PayPal account? I'd like to send you *voice of Carl Spackler* "a little something for the effort"
 
52KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Sun, Oct 13, 2002, 16:39
rinkwide, I appreciate the offer. I have an account for another side-business I run, but I'll look into setting up something for kafenatid.net.
 
53Puckprophet
      ID: 54371812
      Sun, Oct 13, 2002, 21:53
perhaps you could get Guru to update the link to your site, [i can only get to it thru the baseball link...]
 
54KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Sun, Oct 13, 2002, 22:03
Puckprophet, I'm waiting until I get everything set (including Sortables) so that he only needs to do one update. Should be within the week.
 
55KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Sun, Oct 13, 2002, 23:08
UPDATE

I have a working version of the Sortables! Rejoice!

However (and you knew there had to be a "however" involved), I'm going to wait 2-3 days before posting a "live" version of the Sortables so that I can make sure my stats source and pricing updates run smoothly, as expected. I've gotten all the data (both TSNP and pricing) for the season to date into the database, so if things keep going as smooth as they have over the last 3-4 hours, then we'll have Sortables in 2-3 days.

Keep hope alive! :)

 
56KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 327481911
      Mon, Oct 14, 2002, 09:23
I'm looking for someone who:
  1. Wakes up early (or lives in Europe) and has 10-15 minutes to spare each morning.
  2. Has a fast internet connection (Cable or DSL preferred).
  3. Is able to access NHL.com (i.e. - you're not behind a firewall that blocks the site).
  4. Understands "copy-and-paste".
  5. Will "work" for peanuts (or free Kafenatid game registrations ;).

The basics of it are that I have the Sortables point admin area working (worked like a dream this morning!), but the earliest I would be able to update the stats each day is around 8-9am ET. I figure if there's someone who can do the stats update before that, then I'll give you a username and password to that area of Kafenatid and give you the instructions on what would need to be done. It's pretty simple to do, so I'm looking more for someone who can do the stats update early, compared to someone who understands the inner workings of it.

Just let me know if you fit the bill and what time you would generally be able to do the stats update.

 
57Teddybears
      Donor
      ID: 30416143
      Mon, Oct 14, 2002, 10:24
KKB,

I live in Sweden, and get to work just before 3am ET, where I have a good connection. Can't promise that I'll be able to do the stats update everyday due to sickness, trips, or other factors.
But I can give it a try, and if it's simple I'll work for free:)

Teddybears

 
58 KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Mon, Oct 14, 2002, 20:27
Teddybears, shoot me an email when you get a chance (or wake up ;)
 
59Synergy
      ID: 34761420
      Mon, Oct 14, 2002, 22:17
KKB, does your TSNP calculator account for gwg/gtg and pp goal bonuses?
cuz it doesn't seem to do so at the moment..
 
60KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Mon, Oct 14, 2002, 22:22
It should, though it may be on the fritz (i.e. - my stats source changed things for some unknown reason). I'll check into it.
 
61KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Mon, Oct 14, 2002, 22:28
Actually, now that I look at it, I think it's miscalculating Shots by using the 2nd period shots. This would account for Lemieux's missing 10 TSNP (since his 5 shots would be a 0) and Morozov's missing 4 TSNP (since his 3 shots would be a 1). I had this problem working with the TSNP update for the Sortables, but thought it was just the different files I was working with. Looks like I'll just need to update that in the TSNP Calculator also.
 
62KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Mon, Oct 14, 2002, 23:18
Looks like the Shots were what was messing everything up. Should be ok now.

Thanks for the head's up Synergy.

 
63Synergy
      ID: 34761420
      Tue, Oct 15, 2002, 00:04
Ok, cool, thanks KKB...
The totals look right for mario now :)
I'm sure Aleksey will be heavily bought very very soon.. given that they play atlanta and tampa next. And mario has had a history of dominating those teams.. including 5 points against tampa in one game last year.

Unfortunately, I'm playing a different game.. the one offered by NHL.com, but it uses the exact same point system as TSN, so I figured I'd check here to get the quick scores. Anyway, thanks for providing the cool interface, KKB, especially the off/def schedule. It was that thing that made me go mario instead of sundin. :)
 
64KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Tue, Oct 15, 2002, 18:55
UPDATE

The Schedule Breakdown has been updated to sort in a "friendly" manner. The sort order is as follows:

  1. Total Games: Descending
  2. Home Games: Descending
  3. First Game: Ascending (first game first)
  4. Last Game: Ascending (last game last)
  5. B2B: Descending
  6. Team Name: Ascending
 
65Greenbelt
      ID: 2393158
      Tue, Oct 15, 2002, 19:00
Hey Brother, now that's a friendly format! ;-} I really like seeing the 0s in bold!
 
66KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Wed, Oct 16, 2002, 18:23
You know them. You love them. You've missed them.

Well, they're baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack...

SORTABLES!

 
67KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Wed, Oct 16, 2002, 18:27
A couple of notes about the Sortables.
  1. The player names currently do not link to a player page that gives a full breakdown of the stats. I'm still working on that.
  2. While Teddybears and I (how appropriate that the two "bears" are working together) are getting the stats update situation figured out, stat updates may not occur first thing in the morning. I'll try to have them updated by 9am ET at the latest, but there are no guarantees, so no complaints.
  3. Prices should be updated between 12pm and 1pm each day.
  4. If you find an error, please email me with the problem to prevent cluttering up this thread. Also, provide as much specifics as you know. If it's a difference of TSNP, don't just say, "The TSNP are wrong." Please give me what the TSNP should be so that I can fix the problem in a timely manner.
  5. Currently, the Sortables only show the top 100 players. I will be adding in the ability to see more players later.
  6. Enjoy!
 
68Arclight
      ID: 29911113
      Wed, Oct 16, 2002, 18:40
Excellent. Thank you.
 
69Rogue's Strikers
      ID: 18923158
      Wed, Oct 16, 2002, 19:26
Yeeeehaw! :)

Thanks KKB, its purrfect.
 
70Puckprophet
      ID: 54371812
      Wed, Oct 16, 2002, 20:52
only the top 100? ;) ...kudo's
 
71KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Wed, Oct 16, 2002, 21:03
Well, there are 998 players available to show, so yes, only the top 100. :)
 
72ukula
      ID: 383222
      Wed, Oct 16, 2002, 22:07
KKB - You da Man!!!
 
73J
      Leader
      ID: 49346417
      Wed, Oct 16, 2002, 22:57
I love you.
 
74J
      Leader
      ID: 49346417
      Wed, Oct 16, 2002, 22:57
woah, sorry, got a little carried away there, you're great, but we're just friends.
 
75Twarpy
      Leader
      ID: 249412
      Thu, Oct 17, 2002, 00:23
J your Teddybear isnt doing enough for you in bed, so you're switching to koalas?;)
 
76smallwhirled
      Donor
      ID: 17152614
      Thu, Oct 17, 2002, 00:25
LMAO
 
77KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Thu, Oct 17, 2002, 07:39
Ummm, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. I think I'll be taking the Sortables down now. ;)
 
78walk
      Leader
      ID: 214581016
      Thu, Oct 17, 2002, 10:53
KKB rules the earth! Thanks!

- walk
 
79J
      Leader
      ID: 49346417
      Thu, Oct 17, 2002, 11:35
walk is so much better with words than me! :(
 
80rinkwide
      ID: 399341714
      Thu, Oct 17, 2002, 16:34
Now how about that PayPal button so we can really thank you.
 
81Osos Locos del Koala
      ID: 327481911
      Thu, Oct 17, 2002, 16:45
rinkwide, I'll set it up tonight. (I finally have some time!) :)
 
82KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 327481911
      Thu, Oct 17, 2002, 16:46
Oops. Forgot to change my name back from the Spanish thread.
 
83Greenbelt
      ID: 23939177
      Thu, Oct 17, 2002, 16:48
Why not C2it insead of "Preypal" and not get screwed out of so many extra ( eBay ) fees??
 
84KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 327481911
      Thu, Oct 17, 2002, 17:01
I already have another account set up with PayPal that I can just "tag along" with, plus most people are comfortable with PayPal and/or already have accounts. It's a minimal fee anyhow. :)
 
85KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Thu, Oct 17, 2002, 19:10
Donations Welcome!
 
86J
      Leader
      ID: 49346417
      Thu, Oct 17, 2002, 21:41
obviously this is just me being picky, but on the points calculator, for OT games, the time clocks backwards from 20:00 instead of 5:00. Probably more of an issue with the stats feed, but just thought I'd pass it along.
 
87KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Thu, Oct 17, 2002, 21:55
It's stats feed. The stats come from NHL.com and their scoreboard had the NYI/PHI game as 15:00 in OT on the scoreboard page when it became final.
 
88KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Sat, Oct 19, 2002, 21:48
UPDATE

Player names are now linked to the Player Page in the Sortables. The Player Page lists the last 30 days worth of games, the next 21 days schedule, and other info.

Enjoy!

 
89KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Sun, Oct 20, 2002, 11:59
UPDATE

The Offense/Defense Schedule has now been seperated into the Offense Schedule and the Defense Schedule for easier use and more information.

Both the Offense and Defense Schedule's "Favorable" and "Unfavorable" determinations are based on the current NHL goal scoring average. You can find the current info used for these determinations at the bottom of each of the schedules.

 
90Synergy
      ID: 34761420
      Mon, Oct 21, 2002, 13:30
KKB, can you still keep the graphical format of the off/def schedule? it's occasionally nice to see the individual games themselves as a guage of how well a team might do.
 
91KrazyKoalaBears
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      ID: 327481911
      Mon, Oct 21, 2002, 13:42
Synergy, I think I can put it back up, but I'll post a direct link here. I don't want people to get too used to it because this will likely be the last one. ;)
 
92Synergy
      ID: 34761420
      Mon, Oct 21, 2002, 14:11
oh alright, I see. ;)
 
93Puckprophet
      ID: 54371812
      Mon, Oct 21, 2002, 15:33
i noticed jason allison listed as a defenseman..
 
94KrazyKoalaBears
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      Mon, Oct 21, 2002, 15:41
Blasted! I updated Allison in one table, but not the other. Grrrrrr. I'll take care of it tonight. Sorry about that.
 
95KrazyKoalaBears
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      Mon, Oct 21, 2002, 18:21
UPDATE

Flash Offense/Defense Schedule is back up. No link will be added to the left-side menu, so you may want to bookmark it if you use it.

Jason Allison is finally a C!

 
96KrazyKoalaBears
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      ID: 266182910
      Mon, Oct 21, 2002, 19:15
UPDATE

I made a few updates to the Sortables...

  1. You can now specify a number of players to display using "Max Players." The default is 100, though displaying more doesn't seem to affect download speed on my cable modem, so you should be ok with whatever number you want. FYI: Only those players who have played at least 1 game will show up in the Sortables, no matter how many players you want to see. The current total number of players that have played at least 1 game is 654, with Miikka Kiprusoff being the worst in terms of TSNP at -98 for the season.
  2. The font for the main display has been reduced by 1 point for multiple reasons, including print out size, etc. If this is too small, deal with it. ;) Seriously though, if it's too small, just let me know
  3. The player page has been updated with a few minor changes. The distinction between a game date and a non-game date has been decreased a little to make the stats for non-game days easier to read. Let me know if this was decreased too much.
  4. A few other minor things were updated/changed that you probably won't notice much, if at all.
 
97J
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      ID: 49346417
      Mon, Oct 21, 2002, 21:17
thanks KKB! I like being able to see every player in the sarts because I use it to make my own team spreadsheet.

Any chance of getting a schedule tacked on (ie - 1.3.56.8.) to the sartibles and then some projection options?
 
98rinkwide
      ID: 409332119
      Mon, Oct 21, 2002, 21:33
I second J's motion.
 
99KrazyKoalaBears
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      Mon, Oct 21, 2002, 21:53
I'll have to look into those two. If I don't have an update on something like that in a week or two, give me a reminder. :)
 
100KrazyKoalaBears
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      Tue, Oct 22, 2002, 21:04
UPDATE

For all you TagTeam'ers, you'll like the new addition to the Sortables: You can now choose a "Conference" for the players you want listed. So we should never have problems with people picking up players from the wrong conference, right? ;)

 
101KrazyKoalaBears
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      Tue, Oct 22, 2002, 22:38
J, your schedule wish could be granted as soon as tomorrow if everything goes right. I think I'm going to steer clear of the projections for now, mostly because I'm happy with what I have for the Offense/Defense Schedules and that's about as specific as I like to get with projections. I may change my mind later, but that's where I'm at right now.
 
102rinkwide
      ID: 569112221
      Tue, Oct 22, 2002, 23:11
KKB

If you add the projections I'll make it worth your while ;-)
 
103J
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      ID: 49346417
      Tue, Oct 22, 2002, 23:26
ewwww sick dude :)

Thanks KKB! Looking forward to it!
 
104KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Tue, Oct 22, 2002, 23:29
Blackmail?

I like your style. ;)

 
105rinkwide
      ID: 569392221
      Tue, Oct 22, 2002, 23:39
Who me?

Let's just say my friend Mr. Jackson is very fond of those projections.
 
106Puckprophet
      ID: 54371812
      Wed, Oct 23, 2002, 09:22
thanks for adding the 'days ago' column...
 
107KrazyKoalaBears
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      Wed, Oct 23, 2002, 09:24
Puckprophet, you need more coffee. The "Days Ago" has been there from the start. :)
 
108KrazyKoalaBears
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      Wed, Oct 23, 2002, 11:16
Quick question about projections. What do you all want? My initial thought is a 21-day straight projection based on number of games and TSNP/Gm year-to-date.

In other words, Mr. Mario is currently averaging 84 TSNP/Gm. Over the next 21 days, he has 8 games, so it would be projected to 672 TSNP. Does that sound like a reasonable way for the projections to be determined? If not, suggestions?

My initial idea is also to put "21-day Projected" under the "Point Period" drop down so that it would take full advantage of the "Total TSNP", "GP", "TSNP/GP", and "TSNP/GP/$M". Thoughts?

 
109Puckprophet
      ID: 54371812
      Wed, Oct 23, 2002, 11:36
i swear it wasn't there a couple days ago...
 
110J
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      ID: 49346417
      Wed, Oct 23, 2002, 11:54
KKB - instead of using YTD, I'd use last 30 days, if possible.

also, this may be a little trickier, but, for goalies...can you do something like Guru does for pitchers, instead of games played, use eligible games? As it stands now, using those projections would get you a bunch of backup goalies towards the top of the list (Divis is #1, Storr #3, Legace #9, Tugnutt #10)

Other than that, sounds perfect!!
 
111KrazyKoalaBears
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      Wed, Oct 23, 2002, 12:15
J, I could, but unlike pitchers, most #1 goalies are going to play a very large majority of their teams games. If you get too many backup goalies at the top, you can just increase the "Min. Games" category to get rid of the scrubs.

BTW, I think you're right about using 30-day TSNP/Gm. Probably a lot better representation.

 
112J
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      ID: 49346417
      Wed, Oct 23, 2002, 12:46
It would also help give a better idea of how often the #1 guy plays.

ie - Manny has an 81 average, but has played in 4 of their ?6? games. If he doesn't play, that should count as a 0, because if I'm gonna buy him, I'd like to also project based on how often the guy will typically sit out. Either way, its not a perfect science of course.

Another idea - the point period and Col B avg are both defaulted to YTD, perhaps change the defualt on one of em? Obviously at the beginning of the season it doesn't matter, but I'd make one of em 30 days or 15.
 
113KrazyKoalaBears
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      Wed, Oct 23, 2002, 13:01
Gotcha, gotcha. Basically, I can take into account the percentage of games played by the player, then apply that percentage to the number of games over the next 21 days and then apply that to the 30-day TSNP average and that should give a fairly accurate projection.

Also, thanks for the head's up on the Col. B. Hadn't really looked at that, but I'll default it to 15-day.

 
114rinkwide
      ID: 24982311
      Wed, Oct 23, 2002, 13:08
I used to rely on the 15 (and sometimes even 7) day ppg histories to calculate projections. This, of course, allowed you to key in on the hotter players more easily. The 30 day numbers seemed to mask those players and require you to pay attention to multiple outside information sources. Guess I'm lazy but I'd rather cheat and see it all in one glance. Sorting for 30, 15 and 7 would be very helpful in my opinion.

After that's done please modify the totals with a strength of opponent multiplier, a home bonus, an ice-time index, an injury probability factor, a jet-lag function...
 
115KrazyKoalaBears
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      ID: 327481911
      Wed, Oct 23, 2002, 14:42
Ok, here's a good one. The Col. B. already defaults to "15-day TSNP/Gm", it's just not displaying correctly in the top form set. If you check the stats and the bottom form set, you'll see that it's 15-day. I'll fix that form and it should be good to go.

rinkwide, what I'll likely do is set up a Projection-YTD, Projection-30, Projection-15, and Projection-7 within the "Point Period" form field and just have the difference be the TSNP/Gm average used to calculate each one. At that point, you could choose whichever one you want.

J (and others), looks like the 21-day schedule addition will be going live tonight. Just FYI.

 
116rinkwide
      ID: 329112313
      Wed, Oct 23, 2002, 15:11
KKB,

Mr. Jackson just said "thank you".
 
117Caper
      ID: 48735169
      Wed, Oct 23, 2002, 15:56
Thanks KKB. This is excellent!
 
118J
      Leader
      ID: 49346417
      Wed, Oct 23, 2002, 15:59
You are the best Auburn fan, EVER!

Thanks man!
 
119Jevon Kearse
      ID: 17837414
      Wed, Oct 23, 2002, 16:29
KKB,

Awesome, awesome job with the sartibles! Everything looks great man. Uhhhhh, so I've found a bug :-) I'm not able to sort by pts/game over the last 7 days. Thanks again KKB, great job.
 
120KrazyKoalaBears
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      ID: 327481911
      Wed, Oct 23, 2002, 16:36
Actually, it will sort, but for some reason it's including anyone with 0 games and putting them ahead of all the "regular" players, so I'll look into that tonight. It's putting those players at the top because it's division by 0, which is infinity (according to the database and programming), which is greater than any of the other TSNP/GP totals.
 
121Taxman
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      ID: 23852713
      Wed, Oct 23, 2002, 16:46
KKB

I haven't figured out how to sort by teams for more than 100 players. I have a fuzzy memory that
philliephan had a similar problem but was able to change the 100 limitation to show all players.

This product will be a huge help to those that don't follow hockey closely but still want to get involved with the TSN hockey games.

Thanx again!!
 
122KrazyKoalaBears
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      ID: 327481911
      Wed, Oct 23, 2002, 16:56
Taxman, just do a sort by "Team" (or any other sort) and set the "Max Players" field, to the right and above the "Get Stats" button to 9999 and you'll see them all. There are currently only 658 players that are "active", but 9999 makes sure you always get all of them.
 
123Taxman
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      ID: 23852713
      Wed, Oct 23, 2002, 17:01
Doh!

Thanks KKB.
 
124KrazyKoalaBears
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      Wed, Oct 23, 2002, 18:17
UPDATE
  1. 21-day Schedule has now been added to the main Sortables page.
  2. 7-day TSNP/GP fixed, as well as a few others that were having the same error.
  3. Projections are in the works. I'll post more info about when to expect them later tonight.
 
125KrazyKoalaBears
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      ID: 266182910
      Wed, Oct 23, 2002, 19:29
Things are looking good for the projections.

FYI, I'm going to base the games played percentage for all projections on the YTD games played. I'm doing this because if a player misses one game, then the 7-day projections are going to be grossly inaccurate.

For instance, if a player has played 29 out of 30 games, that's a 97% games played percentage. If that player has 10 games over the next 21 days, then it's likely that they'll play all 10. If I use the 7-day games played (we'll say the team played 3 games) for the 7-day TSNP/GP Projection ("Projection-7"), then that player will only be projected to play 7 games. For a player like Lemieux, that's a difference in projection of about 250 TSNP.

Now you may wonder about an injured player. If a player is injured, then they'll slowly move down the charts because every game their team plays without them, their games played percentage will take a hit (minimum of 1.2% for each game missed). I think the negatives of this slow movement down is far better than the inaccuracy pointed out above, sooooooooo...

The different projections will be based on TSNP/GP for the period selected, but the projected games played will be based on the YTD percentage.

 
126KrazyKoalaBears
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      Wed, Oct 23, 2002, 20:26
UPDATE

I should have the Projections available tomorrow night. Just have some final testing to do tonight and then have to make sure the update runs smoothly tomorrow before I take it live.

 
127Puckprophet
      ID: 54371812
      Wed, Oct 23, 2002, 20:52
the east/west thingie is busted...:)
 
128KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Wed, Oct 23, 2002, 20:59
DOH! I'll have it fixed in just a minute. Sorry about that.
 
129KrazyKoalaBears
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      ID: 266182910
      Wed, Oct 23, 2002, 21:05
Ok, should be fixed now. (Gotta remember to use the latest version of the page when adding new stuff ;)
 
130KrazyKoalaBears
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      ID: 327481911
      Thu, Oct 24, 2002, 09:13
FYI, I found a couple of minor errors that I'll have to fix tonight. One of the biggest ones is the 21-day schedule is starting with tomorrow's games pre-noon. It's not supposed to switch over to that schedule display until post-noon, so I'll be checking into it.

The other errors are just related to the projections and might hold up the availability of projections another day, but I'm hoping that it won't. I'll post tonight to keep everyone updated.

 
131KrazyKoalaBears
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      ID: 266182910
      Thu, Oct 24, 2002, 19:51
Somehow, I managed to put the Projections version of the Sortables live sometime between last night and tonight, but I've taken it down until I can make sure the projections are calculated correctly during the stats update. I apologize that this means the Projections will be delayed another night, but I want to make sure they are being calculated correctly before they are being used.
 
132KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Thu, Oct 24, 2002, 20:07
UPDATE

The 21-day Schedule should now be fixed. Until 12-noon, the 21-day Schedule should include the games for the current day. After that, it should switch over to show the next night's games as "1".

As I mentioned above, the Projections should be ready to go tomorrow. It looks like I've managed to fix the errors I found within the Projection calculations, but I want to make sure it works properly tomorrow. If so, Projections will be available starting tomorrow night.

 
134J
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      ID: 49346417
      Thu, Oct 24, 2002, 21:04
KKB, its asking for a Username & password when I clicked on that link.
 
135KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Thu, Oct 24, 2002, 21:08
DOH!

UPDATE

The first Power Rankings. This time, accessible by all. :)

 
136The Left Wings
      ID: 1668298
      Thu, Oct 24, 2002, 22:28
Uh... Just wondering here KKB... Looking from the size of Pick'ems and Madpuck, are there any non-gurupies participating? Looks like you could use some advertising...
 
137KrazyKoalaBears
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      ID: 266182910
      Thu, Oct 24, 2002, 22:51
TLW, actually, there are a few (though I suppose they could be "silent" Gurupies). I could use advertising if I was really concerned about site traffic and/or doing the site for a living, but since I do it all for fun and coding/database experience/practice, it doesn't really matter. The biggest part of the site isn't the games anyhow. The other pages of the site have always gotten the most traffic by far. The games are just an add-on mostly for the Gurupie community since they started with the Pick'ems and MadBall games 2 seasons ago. The site overall has been averaging about 4000 hits/day in October and about 7000 hits/day since the Sortables went up, so the traffic is more than fine for what I would like to see. My target has always been a 10k average and I've actually exceeded that a few days this month, so I'm happy.

Besides, if it got bigger, I would just have to buy more bandwidth. What's the fun in that? ;)

 
138KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 18:08
UPDATE

The Projections are now available. Let me know if there are any problems using and/or accessing them.

 
139Teddybears
      Donor
      ID: 504382214
      Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 19:15
KKB,

You got mail;)
I need some help!

Teddybears

 
140KrazyKoalaBears
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      ID: 266182910
      Wed, Oct 30, 2002, 19:05
MADPUCKS NOVEMBER NOW AVAILABLE!

Kafenatid Games

The most significant change is that you'll now have only 25 picks and $12,500 to use for the month. This reflects the difference in the number of games between baseball and hockey, so we'll see how it works out. Sign up and enjoy!

 
141Puckprophet
      ID: 54371812
      Sat, Nov 02, 2002, 16:09
where did the schedule go?
 
142KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Sat, Nov 02, 2002, 22:17
Ok, we got the schedule back.
 
143noobie
      ID: 501035216
      Sun, Nov 03, 2002, 00:56
yo KKB, where did u get the name Kafenatid from?

Do u have any other ideas for website name?
 
144KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 266182910
      Sun, Nov 03, 2002, 08:22
I opened up the dictionary and started browsing. Saw the word "Caffeinated" and liked it since everything now days is DEcaffeinated. Of course, Caffeinated.com was taken, so I looked up the phonetic spelling: Kafenatid.

The domain was more for my web design business than for the fantasy sports site, but when Gleem.net went down, I just transferred it to Kafenatid.net since I had bought that domain along with the .com one.

As for ideas, I can just recommend thinking outside the box. I know it sounds cliche, but the only thing that the squatters buy is stuff that is "normal." If you think of something outside of "normal", you'll likely find what you're looking for. Also, don't be scared of hyphens or long names. There are a lot of good hyphenated and long domain names available. If it's good enough, people will remember it.

 
145J
      Leader
      ID: 49346417
      Mon, Nov 04, 2002, 08:47
KKB - any chance you can add links to rotowire, etc for each player on the sartibles?
 
146KrazyKoalaBears
      Donor
      ID: 327481911
      Tue, Nov 05, 2002, 13:06
J, I can work on that, but it'll likely be a while before I can fully incorporate it. I'll post updates on it as I have them.