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Subject: Trades (Basic fantasy hockey)


  Posted by: Meikkis - [42931154] Wed, Oct 15, 2003, 06:52

Last year there were much more conversation about trades. I think Itīs time to start this right now ;) For that I opened a new thread especially for the Basic Hockey. So letīs talk boys! Iīm planning to sell Hemsky but Iīdonīt know who to buy instead of him... I have lotīs of money and maybe Iīll buy Tkachuk or Kariya.
 
1Rat
      ID: 26849218
      Wed, Oct 15, 2003, 10:42
Kariya looks like a keeper by his schedule and opposition. I am trying to figure out how to save trades and make cash so I can buy into the Sens at the end of october.
 
2DragonsRage
      ID: 19932116
      Wed, Oct 15, 2003, 11:00
Spezza is the guy that will make money and play very well although his schedule is not good.. u might look into that guy.. he will DEFINITLY make money
 
3Board_Wiper
      ID: 469541520
      Wed, Oct 15, 2003, 23:01
I'm considering trading Mogilny for either Ryder or Spezza as I'm not on the Aebischer bandwagon so I really need some cash. I bought Mogilny the day before he got injured. Go figure huh?
 
4Board_Wiper
      ID: 469541520
      Thu, Oct 16, 2003, 01:58
Traded Mogilny for Ryder. Now I have around 7 million in spare cash. I'm really hoping his value goes up and that he stays consistent.
 
5Meikkis
      ID: 13925164
      Thu, Oct 16, 2003, 06:40
I think Iīll buy Kariya. Ok, heīs expensive but I need atleast one winger who can score points;)My wingers sucked. And the COLīs sched is good > absolutely a keeper and heīs already a price movers list. I have some money because of Aebisher, Jillson etc. Tkachuk is another alternative, nice sched (well not so much homegames)but in my opinion he can score. I donīt think Spezza is a good choice right now. Poor sched and Havlat will be back. Spezzaīs PP-time and moneymaking is decreasing I think. I wish I have had him a week ago ;)
-Meikkis-
 
6TruRyda
      ID: 495226
      Thu, Oct 16, 2003, 08:44
This is how I have used my 4 trades up to now!

Spezza, Jason 4,860,000 (Stall -> Speeza)
Kariya, Paul 8,810,000 (Federov -> Karia)
Zetterberg, Henrik 4,250,000
Pitkanen, Jani 2,090,000
Bergeron, Marc-Andre1,460,000
Aebischer, David 6,790,000 (Clouter -> Aebischer)
Ryder, Michael 740,000 (Senja -> Ryder)

Most Games in Next Two Weeks
MON 8 ANA 8 DET 8 MIN 8
 
7DragonsRage
      ID: 19932116
      Fri, Oct 17, 2003, 09:56
Jump on the ryder train right now because he has a great schedule and holy smokes is his price rising...
 
8Meikkis
      ID: 318332614
      Tue, Oct 21, 2003, 19:25
Yep,

Damn I almost bought Zidlicky last saturday and sunday and today... What do U think, are people going to buy him ? , It seems (today up + 140 000) that they are. I have seen him play two years and I can say heīs very talented offensive defenseman ! So his potential and good play in NHL isnīt not so good surprise for me. But I am so stupid that I donīt have him on my roster, yet ;)
 
9Board_Wiper
      ID: 7923110
      Tue, Oct 21, 2003, 22:08
Yeah I'm out of trades right now. I had bought Mogilny and was going to hold onto him for a while but he got injured the next day so I've been a little short on trades. So I had to go
Mogilny > Kovalchuk

I don't have him right now. I have Tanabe and Bergeron (Edm)
 
10Great One
      Donor
      ID: 15831310
      Tue, Oct 21, 2003, 23:07
waitin' waitin' waitin' on new trades - but I am gonna do my best to not use them right away to actually build some up.
 
11perk9600
      ID: 108141715
      Wed, Oct 22, 2003, 08:43
i can't see, to build any up. As soon as I get them they are gone. 2 isn't enough. 3 would be better.
 
12Board_Wiper
      ID: 7923110
      Wed, Oct 22, 2003, 10:22
I agree perk but then it is the basic version.
 
13Meikkis
      ID: 318332614
      Wed, Oct 22, 2003, 12:56
So boys are U going to buy Zidlicky now when u have new trades ;) ?
 
14Great One
      Donor
      ID: 15831310
      Wed, Oct 22, 2003, 13:29
I think I need to pass on this train - and set my rotation up so that I hop on trains over the weekend - so if the train dies quick or something else bad happens to another guy - new trades are a little bit closer.

Gonna try and start banking one of the two every week. I know we always say that, but...
 
15Great One
      Donor
      ID: 15831310
      Wed, Oct 22, 2003, 13:56
My one early move might be moving Aebischer who appears to be leakinga and I fear people cashing in - as he is the leading gainer for the season.

I am planning on locking up my goalie for about a month (in a roundabout way, conserving trades)- using the 28 day schedule - I am leaning towards Theodore.

Anyone have a different suggestion?
 
16Board_Wiper
      ID: 7923110
      Wed, Oct 22, 2003, 18:58
I wouldn't pick Montreal right now longterm wise. I don't know if they can play that well over such a long stretch. Don't really have any others picks right now myself though. Haven't looked too closely at it.
 
17Board_Wiper
      ID: 7923110
      Wed, Oct 22, 2003, 19:02
Oh and no I'm not going to pick up Zidlicky. I think it's too far into the train to make any significant gains off of him.
 
18Board_Wiper
      ID: 7923110
      Thu, Oct 23, 2003, 21:53
What do you guys think about Havlat. Think he could be a money train?

Also Ryder. He went down $20,000. He has an assist already tonight though. When are you guys going to drop him?

I have Bergeron and I'm going to have to get rid of him. Another healthy scratch.
 
19R9
      ID: 5956233
      Fri, Oct 24, 2003, 00:57
Havlat won't really be a train until Ottawa's schedule picks up in a few weeks. Same deal with Spezza. Ryder will probably be steady for a few days, given his decent production tonight and a good short term schedule.
 
20Board_Wiper
      ID: 469541520
      Fri, Oct 24, 2003, 02:42
Went Bergeron > Jovanovski

He has a good schedule and he's been going up in price a little bit. I'm hoping I can pencil him in for 3 weeks at least. A longterm move.
 
21Board_Wiper
      ID: 7923110
      Sun, Oct 26, 2003, 01:00
Daigle > King

I had Daigle because he was cheap and he might produce. Wasn't a great pick but I had more pressing matters to get rid of before I got rid of him.
 
22Meikkis
      ID: 318332614
      Sun, Oct 26, 2003, 07:14
Two days ago I went Hemsky > Tanguay and It was worth it. Forsbergīs line is on fire now ! Col has a good schedule and he's been going up in price a little bit. When people realized this and Tanguay keeps going, he could be on the price movers list soon.
 
23Meikkis
      ID: 318332614
      Wed, Oct 29, 2003, 14:57
I have made money with Ribeiro, now itīs time to take new step and go:

Ribeiro > Spezza
 
24Rat
      ID: 26849218
      Thu, Oct 30, 2003, 11:30
I'm turning all slowing "trains" into Senators.
With five teams hitting a four day break next week and the sens sched. picking up.
 
25The King
      ID: 429393119
      Sat, Nov 01, 2003, 06:58
I just went -> Tanguay.
 
26Board_Wiper
      ID: 7923110
      Sat, Nov 01, 2003, 17:00
This week I went:

Turco > Khabibulin
Ryder > Savard
 
27Great One
      Donor
      ID: 15831310
      Sun, Nov 02, 2003, 16:20
still trying to figure out how to move Aebischer or if i should even bother. McLennan is looking more and more enticing...

merely a schedule concern.
 
28The Left Wings
      ID: 6142019
      Sun, Nov 02, 2003, 16:44
Why would you want to move Aebischer? The only Stanley Cup contender he'll play against within the next 4 weeks are the Stars. The rest are walks. And their 3-4-3-3 schedule isn't that bad.
 
29R9
      ID: 33105523
      Sun, Nov 02, 2003, 17:52
I've been eying Mclennan for a bit too, but I've tagged the morning of Nov. 12th to pick him up. (Assuming he's still a good option at that time.) My two goalies, Lalime and Khabibulin, have solid schedules until then, and Lalime is fine after that too. Khabi has a 1 in 8 starting then though, so its a great time to move him.
 
30The King
      ID: 429393119
      Wed, Nov 05, 2003, 09:40
I bought Vasicek.
 
31The King
      ID: 429393119
      Wed, Nov 05, 2003, 17:06
If U can choose which one is better option : Brendan Morrison or Marius Cherkawski ? I think people are buying Morrison more because many people have Cherkawski already and heīs widely hold... Do U agree with that ? I think for points Morrison and moneywise maybe Cherkawski. It depends of course much how specially Marius and Brendan plays in their next games. What do U think ? This is a hard decision :-)
 
32MagicAbe
      ID: 5091489
      Wed, Nov 05, 2003, 17:26
Brendan and Canucks have better schedule. And Cherkawski has made his gains, look to have trade ready to offload him.

I think it is Brendan. Better sched and possible gains.
 
33The King
      ID: 429393119
      Wed, Nov 05, 2003, 17:31
I think youīre right MagicAbe. Czerkawski might be too risky to buy right now (widely held). Two bad games and that could be the end of Marius money train.
 
34Board_Wiper
      ID: 31038523
      Thu, Nov 06, 2003, 00:40
I agree Czerkawski is owned by too many people right now for my liking.
 
35jd
      ID: 36105059
      Thu, Nov 06, 2003, 08:18
Was thinking of going:

Forsberg -> Morrison
Czerkawski -> Guerin

before todays freeze, depending on Forsberg's injury.
 
36Board_Wiper
      ID: 20920300
      Thu, Nov 06, 2003, 19:02
I went Savard > Kvasha yesterday. I wanted to get Morrison but I already have 2 Canucks and I couldn't afford him.
 
37jd
      ID: 36105059
      Fri, Nov 07, 2003, 07:50
after looking at the schedule for Dallas I went:

Forsberg -> Morrison
Czerkawski -> Tanguay

Wanted to get out of Forsberg because of the injury and Czerkawski cause his ownership is a little too high for me.
 
38Pat Wright
      ID: 2411414
      Fri, Nov 07, 2003, 15:53
I am in tight in my TSN Basic division. I'm not very strong in hockey, so I need some help about my team. Here is my team:
Jokinen

Kovalchuk
Czerkawski

Butenschon
Cullimore

Nurminen

Guerin

I have two trades left and 1.71 million on hand
Any Suggestions would be much appreciated
 
39Board_Wiper
      ID: 221031022
      Mon, Nov 10, 2003, 23:51
Since Jovanovski is injured I went:

Jovanovski > McCabe
 
40The King
      ID: 429393119
      Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 07:39
To Pat Wright:

Butenschon/Cullimore > Souray

and maybe Guerin > Tanguay
 
41Pat Wright
      ID: 2411414
      Tue, Nov 11, 2003, 15:07
I actually went Arnott > Tanguay
Butenschon > Suchy
Thanks "The King"
 
42Board_Wiper
      ID: 7923110
      Thu, Nov 13, 2003, 01:39
Went Rob Neiedermayer > Jeremy Roenick

Wanted to go Khabibulan > Brodeur or Lalime but I couldn't afford it. I'll hold Khabibulan until the game against Washington, absorb the losses, and go from there. Was thinking of going Bulin > Osgood (St. Louis plays 4 games in the time Tampa plays 1) but Tampa plays Washington so I'm hoping for some big numbers from Khabi. If he gets a shutout I'll hold him through the week because he has a good schedule on the other side. If not...I'll move him for..I dunno yet.
 
43The King
      ID: 429393119
      Thu, Nov 13, 2003, 03:23
> Van Ryan
 
44Board_Wiper
      ID: 7923110
      Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 00:21
What do you guys think of Kovalchuk? He hasn't had a decent game for a few games now. Think his train might be coming to an end this week? Or next week? Or not in the forseeable future?
 
45Hershy
      ID: 49432616
      Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 01:54
I really want to make a trade but am scared of kovalchuk getting traded by lots of people.

might do kovalchuk --> tanguay
 
46simbot
      ID: 151041220
      Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 02:22
Anyone dropping Morrison? He's due for a price drop...
 
47Die_Habs
      ID: 53346218
      Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 08:29
Kovalchuk has a 2 in 3 and I don't see him going down as of yet.

Morrison is not that widely held and has a decent schedule coming up, he drop in price will be minimal and you I am going to hold. The most you would gain in 6 days is one game.
 
48jd
      ID: 351058147
      Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 09:01
I dumped Morrison. Picked up Roenick in his place. Needed the extra cash to pick up Lalime but I probably would've done it anyway. Roenick's price is on the up while Morrison's is going down and Roenick is putting up decent points right now with a good long term sched.
 
49Richard
      Leader
      ID: 5410352713
      Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 09:10
Never under estimate the ability of the TSN managers to surprize you with illogical moves. Players as widely held as Kovalchuk can go down in price any day they don't play. He doesn't play today, so I suspect he'll have a bit of a price drop. However, with back-to-back games on Saturday and Sunday, there is no way I'm trading him today. I'll readily absorb any small loss he might post today. He won't be on top of the money loss list today. Nurminen, Morrison, Czerkawski and Vasicek should all lose more than Kovalchuk.

Richard
 
50Rat
      ID: 26849218
      Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 13:05
With the amount of owners with Kovalchuk the dam has burst, unless he gets significant points in the next game the tide won't be turned. If Philly shuts him down, we could see record dumping. And as illogical as it may seem, Lang might be the recipient during his layoff.
 
51Board_Wiper
      ID: 7923110
      Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 18:53
Those with trades left. Are you going to deal him tonight or will you take loses and see how he does tomorrow?

I'm not sure which way to go tonight. He could go down a LOT tonight because he's so widely held.
 
52Board_Wiper
      ID: 7923110
      Fri, Nov 14, 2003, 19:05
Kovalchuk I mean.
 
53Board_Wiper
      ID: 1110181419
      Sat, Nov 15, 2003, 02:06
Had one trade left and a big dilemna as I had Kovalchuk and Khabibulan.
I was thinking of going Kovalchuk > Hossa in light of his potential to lose a lot of cash.

In the end I couldn't ignore Khabibulan's 5 days off though so I went Khabibulan > Dunham.

I'm gambling that Kovalchuk will have at least one big game on the weekend. Lesser of two evils I suppose.
 
54DragonsRage
      ID: 21103949
      Sat, Nov 15, 2003, 12:46
i dont get why ppl are going to lang right now.. yes he is making money but after sat game. he doesn't even play till thursday.. i will pick him up on thurs with 2 new trades coming..
 
55Hershy
      ID: 49432616
      Sat, Nov 15, 2003, 18:22
I may dump Czerkawski depending on his game today.

Osgoode was a good pickup a few days ago with the shutout tonight.

Kovalchuk may be gone if he has bad games today and tomorrow

Vacisek: no clue yet
 
56Die_Habs
      ID: 5210171121
      Sun, Nov 16, 2003, 14:44
Wow, Lang lost more then I imagined. Looks like my plan didn't hold out, got a few points from him, now I will hold and gain his losses back next week. Not a fan of V. Bure, but he should compensate for my lang loses.
 
57Great One
      Donor
      ID: 298341017
      Sun, Nov 16, 2003, 21:17
I don't wanna move Kovalchuk... but this sucks.
 
58Board_Wiper
      ID: 1110181419
      Sun, Nov 16, 2003, 21:24
When I saw the 5-2 score I was hoping for more than an assist but I think he managed 47 points so that may be enough to slow the bleeding a little bit.

I agree though...these loses do suck.
 
59Great One
      Donor
      ID: 298341017
      Sun, Nov 16, 2003, 21:29
I don't even see a clear cut move either... that doesn't help.

there is always the absorb the losses and enjoy the differentiation strategy I guess.
 
60Hershy
      ID: 49432616
      Sun, Nov 16, 2003, 23:33
I may hold kovalchuk until at least Tues and then trade him. not sure yet. I have Tanguay, Roenick, and Bure and can afford anyone once I sell Kovalchuk. Any suggestions?
 
61Hershy
      ID: 49432616
      Mon, Nov 17, 2003, 01:35
I mean Wednesday not Tuesday. Thinking maybe Lang on Wednesday post-freeze
 
62Board_Wiper
      ID: 1110181419
      Mon, Nov 17, 2003, 02:54
Too early to tell..I'll be looking more closely Tuesday at possible options.
 
63walk
      Leader
      ID: 32928238
      Mon, Nov 17, 2003, 07:59
My gut tells me that Ilya drops about $120-$160 today, and then as much tomorrow, and then a consistent negative decline unless he has a monster game (which is not unlikely). I am selling him for the popular replacement of Hossa (which is NOT meant to imply that he is the best choice, just that I see the wave from Kovalchuk to Hossa has already begun, Hossa has a game tonight (there seems to be a day trading strategy emerging of late), and Hossa and Ottawa do seem to have the best schedule coming up over the next 3-4 weeks).

I also do not see Ilya as high a producing wing as he was earlier in the season. Like many sports, players go in streaks, and with injuries to teammates, other teams keying on Kovalchuk more, and merely the tides turning on his torrid pace, I think it's a no-brainer to move him.

- walk
 
64tommyd
      ID: 2104118
      Mon, Nov 17, 2003, 10:05
Just made the Kov-Hossa move. For the cash and I liked Ottawa's upcoming opponents.
 
65Hershy
      ID: 49432616
      Mon, Nov 17, 2003, 10:36
When looking at the teams in my leaguee, saw that only one team had Hossa so i made the Koval--> Hossa move. Now I can only hope Kovalchuk loses tons of money and produces few points
 
66Dark Angel*
      ID: 81029178
      Mon, Nov 17, 2003, 10:47
I just made the

Kovalchuk-->Bonk and

Lang--> Sakic moves...

I hope that Ottawa and Colorado score a lot of points...while making a lot of money...

I keep Lalime and Brodeur for the next week...

Have a good day!
 
67Meikkis
      ID: 318332614
      Mon, Nov 17, 2003, 12:11
Absolutely I went:

Kovalchuk > Bonk

I like Ottawaīs coming schedule too and I think Bonk will make more cash than Hossa for a long term. Now I have about 2,5 Mil more money too which I can use to uppgrade my offence for example buy Steve Yzerman or Nagy. -Meikkis-

 
68Board_Wiper
      ID: 3310531717
      Fri, Nov 21, 2003, 10:09
Went Dunham > Brodeur last night.
 
69Meikkis
      ID: 318332614
      Fri, Nov 21, 2003, 11:13
I usually donīt like to ask tradehelp but now it would be nice to hear some suggestions.

Well I still have damn Vasicek on my roster and I want to get rid off him. So who to pick for a long term hold (at least 2-3 week pick) ?
I think Iīll make my move at saturday 22 after tonightīs game.

I have money left 5,8 Mil and the new player(extra attacker) can be center or winger...

Any ideas ? Thanks !

-Meikkis-

 
70Irish Red
      ID: 269311812
      Fri, Nov 21, 2003, 11:24
Meikkis - I would be looking at Luc Robitaille and Bobby Holik. For slightly longer term looks, check out Amonte, Recchi, Gagne (all from Philly), and also Knuble. For this second batch of players, you should wait and get the points from Vasicek's game against Tampa on the 23rd.

I would pick up Robitaille.
 
71Meikkis
      ID: 318332614
      Sat, Nov 22, 2003, 23:02
Thanks Irish for your opinions. I like Detroitīs and Phillyīs long term schedule and I made my move between Recchi and Datsuyk.

I went Vasicek > Datsyuk

because of his potential, last games points, cheap price and Detroitīs next days and long term schedule too. And it was worth it: 1 G & 1 A for Datsyuk = 74 TSNP. If Datsyuk keeps going I think heīll be on the basic price mover list soon. He is already an ultimate game price mover. Letīs see what happen. Go Pavel Go !

-Meikkis-





 
72Filthy Rich
      ID: 4946223
      Sun, Nov 23, 2003, 15:09
Marc Savard has returned early with a goal already, he should gain quite a lot of money.
 
73Meikkis
      ID: 429393119
      Fri, Dec 05, 2003, 00:30
Iīm happy I went Datsyuk two week ago ! I have got a lot of points and now a the money will come...