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- [2136257] Wed, Feb 25, 2004, 09:04
Thought it was time for a new one....
Today I'm thinking of beginning to move out of my Ottowa forwards.. (I have two Hossa and Havlat)... There are several ways to go here with nothing really screaming this is the best choice..
Illya - 4 games this week (2 against the rangers), coming off a 3 day break, should be rested.
Walker/Sullivan - They've been hot since the trade, don't play until tomorrow, but have a nice looking schedule up to March 4.
Cherkawski/Hunter - Also don't play until tomorrow, but have Rangers and 2 Pittsburgh games this week.....
Early in the season, I'd go with Sullivan, knowing that he will make money. But given my financial position, if I choose a Pred, I'd be more inclined to get Walker as I think he's a better scorer than Sullivan...
I will admit, I'm leaning towards the conservative pick up of Illya, but that could be why I'm in such a rut... I've fallen from 37 to 69 (actually i'm back up a little from 77, but you get the idea).
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| | | 1 | Little M
ID: 551261616
Wed, Feb 25, 2004, 09:42
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Other forwards with good schedules to consider are St. Louis, Stillman and Tkachuk.
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| | | 2 | Irish Red
ID: 269311812
Wed, Feb 25, 2004, 10:40
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I went from Hossa and Alfredsson to Trent Hunter and Keith Tkachuk.
Irish Red
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| | | 3 | bookie
ID: 2136257
Wed, Feb 25, 2004, 10:55
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Little M.. I completely agree.. But they are already on my roster, so I didn't include them in my analysis.... But for those who don't have them, they clearly should be considered....
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| | | 4 | bookie
ID: 2136257
Wed, Feb 25, 2004, 10:56
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Oops,, Tkachuk not on my roster, but the two Lightning are....
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| | | 5 | bookie
ID: 2136257
Wed, Feb 25, 2004, 11:40
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Thornton -> Lecavelier for my third Lightning player....
Hossa -> Illya, hoping for a shootout tonight.. 6-5 sounds good....
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| | | 6 | smallwhirled
ID: 471461310
Wed, Feb 25, 2004, 11:51
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Hossa > Stillman (hoping for a shootout tonight)
Redden > Blake with a red cross by his name
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| | | 7 | Destroy*
ID: 20110198
Wed, Feb 25, 2004, 11:55
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Here is what I did this morning...trade-olic...
Thornton--Elias
Raycroft--Turco
Hossa--Kovalchuck
New trades this afternoon, may then do a D-men shuffle...
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| | | 8 | bookie
ID: 2136257
Wed, Feb 25, 2004, 11:57
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SW, I'm considering Redden to Blake myself... But given it's 11:57, I'll have to wait one or two more days....
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| | | 9 | smallwhirled
ID: 471461310
Wed, Feb 25, 2004, 12:06
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I just went for it hoping for early returns.
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| | | 10 | R9
Leader
ID: 2624472
Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 01:27
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Went Thornton -> Elias and Redden -> Gonchar this morning, finally caught a break. Of course, Luongo posted another blasted SO. :(
I picked up Gonchar for his 3 in 4, and hopefully by then he'll be moved to a contender.
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| | | 11 | caribou
ID: 561592310
Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 08:07
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Is it time to trade Sundin...need a little help here....???
Maybe move him to > sakic, ribeiro or weigt, zhamonv,
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| | | 12 | Irish Red
ID: 269311812
Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 08:15
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I was about to ask the same thing about McCabe. Definitely time to move Sundin - only three games over the next 7 days, and one is the Devils, who appear to be rounding into form. LeCavalier, Elias, Richards, and Gomez all have been hot and have good schedules. Or if you want to go out on a limb with me, Peca has 4 games in 6 days, with NYR, BUFF, and PIT twice. Probably cost you 80,000 TSND to gravity, but can't find a better schedule to score points (at least, that is what I am banking on).
Irish Red
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| | | 13 | Irish Red
ID: 269311812
Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 08:40
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Caribou - maybe it is time to get into Weight or Demitra. The Blues have 13 games over the next 21 days; if only we knew that the Blues would start playing well!
Irish Red
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| | | 14 | walk
Leader
ID: 32928238
Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 09:00
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Fyi, too lazy for links, but:
Rotoworld says that Naslund skated lightly yesterday and reported no post-concussion symptoms. He could return to action within days.
Forsberg did not practice yesterday. No other indication about his status.
Roenick is in bad shape with a potential circulatory problem in his brain. He season is over for sure, but this news is more about his overall health and such...ugh
Finally, Sather stepped down as my rangers coach, but is trying to maintain dignity by retaining his President & GM duties. He'll lose those jobs after the season. The rangers are far out of the playoffs and it appears that, for a change, and wisely, the rangers might become sellers soon and unload many talented but underachieving players to playoff bound/bubble teams.
- walk
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| | | 16 | C.SuperFreaks
ID: 11659
Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 09:55
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1 move
Mccabe - Aucoin. Can't afford a stud d man yet.
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| | | 17 | Destroy*
ID: 45150268
Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 10:00
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Wow, a very good night for me yesterday!
Don't you guys think that sundin should moove tomorrow, not today...There is so few really good options à center...
When will Sakic wake up!
D-men shuffle...who do you guys think is going to be the next week winner in points...Blake?
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| | | 18 | smallwhirled
ID: 471461310
Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 10:09
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Yeah, I'd put my money on Blake, but it won't be for a week. Colorado has the best schedule you can get, he's a season long hold.
Elias is beyond on fire....164, 102, 177. That might be the best 3 game stretch I've ever seen. Good thing most of the top managers don't have him or I'd be in trouble. He hasn't even sniffed the "top player" list all year....and now, 11 points in 3 games later, he's all the way up to number 4 overall. He is a very risk-reward player. He can really suck sometimes and not even be worth 2 miliion, yet alone 6. Then sometimes he goes crazy. We'll see what happens, but man he's on fire. There's just enough differentiation between me and the top guy that I think I can get into first place tonight, we'll see.
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| | | 19 | bookie
ID: 2136257
Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 10:21
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It looks like I have to move two centers over the next two days...Doan today and Sundin tomorrow.... (I also have Vinny)
For Today, I'm thinking of picking up one of the Blues Damitra or Weight.. or maybe Patrick Marleau for 3 in 4 and than into joey T for his two ranger games...
Then tomorrow, I'll probably get the "I'm too late but I'll do it anyway" Elias......
Also for today I may go Redden or Chara -> Blake.. I'm going to hold Pronger, hoping that he picks it back up soon....
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| | | 20 | smallwhirled
ID: 471461310
Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 10:27
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I'm about to move into Pronger I think. Big stud D-men is where I made it happen last year....Elais tommorrow looks solid, might be late, but I might go to him as well.
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| | | 21 | tommyd
ID: 46928248
Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 10:38
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Moving Sundin tommorrow for Elias as that was the plan before he blew up. Have Chara and Redden and not srue what to do with them, both not really performing and not great scheds but do I want to use the trades for d-men?
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| | | 22 | Destroy*
ID: 45150268
Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 10:41
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SW, you are the inspiration of the division!
I hope you'll be first by tomorrow!
On the other hand, changing position is something, keeping it is another...
You're talking about Elias...I'm quite surpise of this guy. I wiuld never have tought he would be one of the center "hot" pick at this stage of the season...I traded for him yesterday and that was one of the luckiest-best moove of the season...
One thing I keep stressing about is the situation of goalies...I now have luongo and turco...streaks comme to an end so quickly...both of them I think have been playing well so I'm waiting to see.
Now that I'm back in 2nd spot in the division, the deal is to keep the position hoping so...el tel is playing well...
Have a good day...I think I will get Blake this morning.
SW, what do you think of Sakic
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| | | 23 | smallwhirled
ID: 471461310
Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 10:58
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El Tel has been very solid the last month....Usually sitting very nice with his trades too, as I think that is a big key to success.
Sakic is pretty much locked on my team, I hope he picks it up. Teams with 2 TB or 2 NJ centers are really gaining some points. Once you move into an Av, you might as well just forget about it. That sked is so solid. Going into Sakic now is just a gut call, Colrado has to heat up at some point, but there's no reason to get Sakic for a short term and trade him, he's holdable.
As for goalies, Aebisher is in the same mold as Sakic for me, I'm holding all the way to the end most likely. The other spot is Luongo, 3 SOs in 4, woooooooooo! Anyways, I'll move him to Kippy when I need the extra cash most likely. Goalies are not my thing, I luck out most of the time, my runs are correlate with my "real points." Most of my money goes into stud fowards, it's always been that way.
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| | | 24 | bookie
ID: 2136257
Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 11:02
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Wow SW, you're up an active early today ;-> must have taken the night off.... So what's your take on the two Ottawa D men.. I'm going to trade one of them to Blake... I'm leaning towards keeping Redden, lower ownership and more PP time... however Chara is the #1 guy in TSNP.. Any thoughts would be welcome.. you are the man after all...
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| | | 25 | smallwhirled
ID: 471461310
Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 11:04
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I would hang on to Redden over Chara. Yea, I had quite a lot to drink last night, the liquor is running through my veins.
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| | | 26 | Destroy*
ID: 45150268
Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 11:07
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I would tell you that I've always looked at the game a bit differently based on the fact that I tought that it's always easier to bet on a team winning against another and the correlative points going to the winning goalie then hoping for a center and even worst for a d-men to make points in a game ...
However, this year I have changed a bit my strategy betting a bit more on forwards and it has worked pretty good...
I think however that the only way to play the game is to balance impulsion and patience while picking up on streaks...(talking about points)
I still need much practice in order to follow guys like you, SW or Dr. Doom, in money making...you guys are so far in front!
Anyways, I don't know yet if I will do the sundin-sakic moove tonight or tomorrow...patience tells me to hold and impulsion tells me to trade...
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| | | 27 | R9
Leader
ID: 2624472
Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 11:11
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Bookie, I had both Ottawa d-men too, and now have Gonchar/Blake/Chara. Chara will probably go for Pronger during the 3-day break, so if possible trade both. They're both good D, but not must-haves... They go cold for streaks like other regular d-men.
Destroy, your not missing much money-wise this year. I've got 80 mil, and 10 of it is sitting in the bank rotting. So your 70 mil is very solid right now.
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| | | 28 | smallwhirled
ID: 471461310
Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 11:13
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Game day trades are usually the flip of a coin, but I do them too. Some people are completely against it never trading a player with a game. I do it, RV still matters. In terms of today, it's probably a 40-80K net. Sundin is going to lose some today, he's stunk lately, and will lose a ton tommmorrow. All Sundin holders should drop him by tommorrow, unless you're a huge Leaf fan.
I never sit and speculate and think about who's going to be the most productive over the week. The only guys I trade are guys who have a bad sked and are going to lose money. That's pretty much it. It's all about the RV gains from Sun-Tue, when you have trades and others don't. You can get a net 1 mil on your competition every week, it really pays off. I'm moving to Gonchar (when traded), Blake, Pronger. I can do that, I have that luxury.
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| | | 29 | smallwhirled
ID: 471461310
Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 11:19
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Rogue is saying move to the stud D, everyone should do that if they can....He single-handedly made my season last year. I was using stud D in December last year, and it worked. MacInnis and Gonchar were putting up 40 TSNP/gm at D. They were so great. If we had that this year, I'd be at an even bigger advantage.
As for fowards/goalies, you're going to have one spot that is almost either a lock or a guy you can hold a majority of the year. This year it's Aebisher, last year it was Turco...Next year, it'll be someone else. I had Broduer for his huge stretch, I'm not going to say I don't spend money on goalies, I do sometimes....but more often than not, you can save 6 million at goalie, if you make the right lucky pick. This year it was Kippy for that long stretch last year it was Roloson. How many had Roloson at 3 mil with no Manny Fernandez. He was so huge for me....What's the difference in a stud W than a cheap one, a ton. You don't play around wit Scott Walker and Trent Hunter, you trade the big boys. When you've got a lot of sutds to pick from and they're playing well, the only reason you get a cheapie is to hold him for very long term. Trading into a cheap foward for a week is such a waste, so hit and miss.
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| | | 30 | bookie
ID: 2136257
Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 11:25
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Very nice analysis of how you play the game SW.. I have some small differences in my strategy, but the one clear thing that we both do is avoid the losers.. Don't necessarily chase the gainer, but definitely sell the losers.... I'll be holding Sundin for today, but tomorrow he will be gone....
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| | | 31 | smallwhirled
ID: 471461310
Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 11:35
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Big fowards, 1 day at a time, trade the losers. You'd be suprised what kind of long term holds you can get, they really help the trade bank. Shanahan for a month, Palffy for a month, St Louis forever it seems now.....Now I'm in no trouble with the RV and I can really let my gut go to work on picks.
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| | | 32 | smallwhirled
ID: 471461310
Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 11:39
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Parrish's first game back. I might try an Isle in a few days, but not Czerwaski or Hunter. I was thinking more like Parrish or Kavasha. We'll see how it goes and how I feel about them in a few days.
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| | | 33 | bookie
ID: 2136257
Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 11:46
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Well I've gone:
Chara -> Blake.. you guys are right in a week, I'll want Gonchar and Redden will lose less in the interim...
Now I have Doan teed up and am down to Sakic or Demitra... Was going to go Demitra, but they have some tough opponents this week
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| | | 34 | smallwhirled
ID: 471461310
Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 11:50
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Just Depends on your feel. Demitra is going to score, you know I like him much better than Weight anyways, but that's a different thing all together. If you go Sakic, he's just a season long hold, you can always go to Demitra, then to Sakic at some point later. I hope Colrado turns it around, I'd liek to have more expensive players to choose from.
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| | | 35 | bookie
ID: 2136257
Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 11:51
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You read my mind SW... I already pulled the trigger, thanks for the added vote of confidence....
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| | | 36 | The Dienasty
ID: 3810111222
Thu, Feb 26, 2004, 20:20
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Ugh, i did it again, went Hossa -> Tkachuk prefreeze, instead of the other one i was mulling over, Hossa -> Jagr... Why couldn't lightning have hit my house before i hit "Buy" :( I could have used the extra time to re-think my pick.
Looks like Iginla -> Jagr, Havlat -> Stillman for the rest of my trades.
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ID: 17522
Fri, Feb 27, 2004, 02:33
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Havlat >> Stillman for me as well. I was thinking about holding him through his 3 day break but a suspension seems likely.
Also thinking about going Aebischer >> Turco or Brodeur cause there's a good chance Sauve gets the start against the Blue Jackets. And then go back to Aebischer from Luongo next week.
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| | | 38 | tommyd
ID: 46928248
Fri, Feb 27, 2004, 09:54
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Will Havlat be suspended? Him and Murray had to go anyways.Lots of trades to consider Chara, Havlat, Mccabe, Sundin and Murray. I'm still not sold on the stud d-men had pronger forever and he did nothing. I'm like smallwhirled wish they were a factor as I have a pretty good roster value.
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| | | 39 | bookie
ID: 2136257
Fri, Feb 27, 2004, 10:54
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Looks like I have to move Sundin and Havlat today, not just Sundin...
Sundin will likely become Elias (I have Vinny and Pavol Demitra).... 2 lightning wings or I'd consider Richards..
Havlat -> Jagr or Tkachuk, I think... Stillman, St. Louis and Illya already in the fold....
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| | | 40 | walk
ID: 34117278
Fri, Feb 27, 2004, 11:03
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I made 3 trades today and am already down to ONE for the week. UGH.
Hossa --> Ilya
Havlat --> Jagr
Thornton --> Elias
I fear Havlat will be suspended (match penalty and stick to the face of Recchi) and that Hossa will lose major $ today.
- walk
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ID: 2136257
Fri, Feb 27, 2004, 11:10
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Looks like the only clear choice at Center short of going with 4 lightning is Elias and hope the hot streak continues...
At wing there are some options: Obvioulsy the lightning, but I have them next in line:
Jagr - hot/good schedule, but how long will he or the supporting cast remain in NY.
Tkachuk -> are the Blues ready to break out?
Sullivan/Walker -> Can they continue there hot streaks.. the schedule isn't bad.
Cherkawski/Hunter -> home and home with pittsburgh games coming up....
Any thoughts from the powers of persuasion on the board....
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| | | 42 | R9
Leader
ID: 2624472
Fri, Feb 27, 2004, 11:13
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On Havlat, I've decided to hold for one more day, since his two likely replacements aren't playing until tomorrow anyway. I'm really not concerned about money losses at all anymore, hell I've had 8-12 mil in the bank all week! With only two trades left, I might be keeping one of Havlat and Hossa. I want to make sure I keep the right one...
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| | | 43 | Destroy*
ID: 33150277
Fri, Feb 27, 2004, 11:21
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I did this morning:
Murray--Jagr (Along with Ryder, St-Louis Kovalchuk)
Sundin--Sakic (along with Elias and Richards)
planning on going this afternoon..Kovalchuk--Tkachuk
Did Mccabe--Blake yesterday...
Major shuffle...
Have a good week-end!
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| | | 44 | smallwhirled
ID: 471461310
Fri, Feb 27, 2004, 11:49
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Sundin > Elias
Murray > Jagr
Havlat > Sullivan
Laying off the Isles. Parrish is not ready.
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Leader
ID: 49346417
Fri, Feb 27, 2004, 11:49
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I used 5 trades today :(
Sundin-->Gomez (trying to differentiate a little, hopefully Elias will crap out)
Murray-->Jagr
Havlat-->Stillman
Slegr-->Leetch (another differentiationing - if thats a word)
McCabe-->Blake
I dont particularly love these moves, but, well, those schedules are just too bare for me and my 14 trades!
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| | | 46 | J
Leader
ID: 49346417
Fri, Feb 27, 2004, 11:50
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and here I was thinking, I hope SW wakes up in time!!! :)
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| | | 47 | smallwhirled
ID: 471461310
Fri, Feb 27, 2004, 11:58
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Hey now, I set my alarm for 11:30, I've got my priorities straight.
Didn't have a real long time to really look, but I'm making the obvious money moves today. Maybe tommorrow I'll think about Leetch, I need some Ranger input J.
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Leader
ID: 49346417
Fri, Feb 27, 2004, 12:28
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I'm not the rangers guy anymore...talk to walk! I'm converted to a full time thrashers fan now.
It will be interesting though to see who the Rangers move at the deadline. With all the big name players they have that are move-able, they could beef up the farm pretty significantly.
I was listening to Barry Melrose (I think) last night on ESPN saying that pretty much everyone but Jagr could be moved. Including Lindros and Leetch. It'll be interesting to see what happens!
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| | | 49 | smallwhirled
ID: 471461310
Fri, Feb 27, 2004, 12:31
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Yeah, lots of payroll and no results. I watched a good chunk of the Lightning-Leafs game last night, man can they score. I think they're good enough to win the whole thing.
Jagr, if he stays healthy, should be solid. He's been consistantly good for a month now, I see him keeping that going.
Everyone is low on trades, I wouldn't mind an injury or two this week. ;)
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| | | 50 | R9
Leader
ID: 2624472
Fri, Feb 27, 2004, 12:48
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Dammit J, I went to Gomez too, trying to differentiate from you!!!
FWIW, dictionary.com had no entry for differentiationing. ;)
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| | | 51 | walk
ID: 34117278
Fri, Feb 27, 2004, 13:39
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Leetch was scouted by both Dallas and Philly at Nassau Colliseum last night. He is on the block. He is still quite good. He still plays an aggressive-attacking style. I am not sure what his price is in TSN, but if he gets traded to a good team, or even stays with the rangers, he has great potential to put up some good numbers (if with the rangers, as long as the opposition is the islanders).
;-)
walk
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| | | 52 | smallwhirled
ID: 471461310
Fri, Feb 27, 2004, 14:00
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Leetch is a tremendous price. Only a little over 3. I am looking at him and Gonchar (when traded) primarily at this point. Kimmy Johnnson is just not doign the job for me. I don't need a throw away cheap defenseman anymore. I want people who are scoring, he isn't doing that anymore since I picked him up. Imagine that, a guy cooling off when I pick him. ;)
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| | | 53 | C.SuperFreaks
ID: 11659
Fri, Feb 27, 2004, 14:57
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Lang is now in Detroit.
Sure hope no one picked him up for his b2b this weekend.
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| | | 54 | J
Leader
ID: 49346417
Fri, Feb 27, 2004, 19:36
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for those of you with Kovalchuk...he won't be playing tonight. Benched for being late for the team practice.
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Leader
ID: 49346417
Fri, Feb 27, 2004, 20:11
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just read on the bottom line thing that Gonchar is a healthy scratch!
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| | | 56 | KWizard
ID: 308112720
Fri, Feb 27, 2004, 21:34
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Hmmm....a trade perhaps? Maybe Gonchar needed to go pack his bags.
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Leader
ID: 49346417
Fri, Feb 27, 2004, 21:38
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Martin Havlat was suspended two games Friday without pay for a high-sticking incident in Thursday's game, the Associated Press reports. He'll miss back-to-back games against the Sabres on Saturday and Wednesday. Havlat, who was suspended for two games in January, was assessed a match penalty after striking Recchi in the head with the shaft of his stick at 3:26 of the third period. He was fined as a repeat offender under the terms of the Collective Bargaining Agreement and will forfeit $36,585.36.
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| | | 58 | Filthy Rich
ID: 401118224
Fri, Feb 27, 2004, 22:29
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Someone mustve really jinxed Luongo
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| | | 59 | J
Leader
ID: 49346417
Sat, Feb 28, 2004, 00:28
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it was ROGUE!!!!!
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| | | 60 | R9
Leader
ID: 2624472
Sat, Feb 28, 2004, 00:50
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:(
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| | | 61 | R9
Leader
ID: 2624472
Sat, Feb 28, 2004, 00:53
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From Rotoworld:
Sergei Gonchar will miss tonight's game with the flu.
Of course rumours are now rampant that Gonchar may not have the flu and his absence may be due to an imminent trade of Gonchar following the departure of Robert Lang earlier today. For now, we will take the Capitals at their word and consider Gonchar day-to-day. Adjust your lineup accordingly.
Lovely. I had Gonchar going against Luongo, and with Lang traded I figured even if Luongo loses, its because Gonchar would do the scoring. But of course not, he has 'the flu'. :(
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| | | 62 | rob
ID: 271151309
Sat, Feb 28, 2004, 02:24
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i picked up lang for his b2b, especially since the caps are doing a southeast run, and typically do well intra-conference.
and i'm a caps season ticket holder to boot. please, just shoot me now...
FWIW, the broadcasters on the local comcast feed stated that many of the players were feeling ill. sounded like possible food poisoning...
and, here's an interesting link that has popped up on the caps message boards (originally discovered by hockeysfuture):
http://www.torontomapleleafs.com/bio.ml?playerName=%20Sergei%20Gonchar
nobody's certain if it's wishful thinking, a well prepared webmaster, or a hacked site.
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| | | 63 | R9
Leader
ID: 2624472
Sat, Feb 28, 2004, 04:31
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Now THAT is interesting. Hopefully they wait until after tomorrow's game before shipping him to TO.
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| | | 64 | caribou
ID: 3122810
Sat, Feb 28, 2004, 11:07
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Did :
Havlat > Hedjuk
everybody playing tonight !!!
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| | | 65 | tommyd
ID: 46928248
Sat, Feb 28, 2004, 12:28
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Murray- Tkchacuk, Havlat-Jagr. Move Mccabe after tonight's game.
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| | | 66 | smallwhirled
ID: 471461310
Sat, Feb 28, 2004, 12:47
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freaking Rogue.
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| | | 67 | walk
ID: 27132211
Sun, Feb 29, 2004, 08:35
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Anyone thinking of moving Aebischer? Just throwing it out there. I am mullin over Turco who is hot, and his Dallas team is hot, good at home, and still has four homes game in a row coming up (and the game after the fourth is at Pittsburgh).
Seems like a wave worth riding.
Smallwhirled: Your thoughts on this? I know you have indicated you want to hold Aebischer throughout. I have BOOKIE'S team today, and am mulling over this move on his trade-laden team (he has 6 in the bank, with $7M in cash).
thx,
- walk
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ID: 27132211
Sun, Feb 29, 2004, 10:20
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I guy like me can easily tell that most of the managers here do not have small kids who wake up early regardless of what day of the week it is. Ya'll sleepin' in...
;-)
Anyway. Redden --> Leetch on Bookie's team.
I figure that Leetch either has two games against two weak defenses, Atlanta, OR will be traded to a good team imminently (and NYC sources indicate such) where he will, IMO, have a nice offensive scoring spurt (he is still very good folks).
- walk
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| | | 69 | J
Leader
ID: 49346417
Sun, Feb 29, 2004, 11:38
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Walk - I'm tempted with Turco.
Here's the schedules:
Turco: EDM — — CBJ — CGY — SAN — @PIT
Abby: — TAM — VAN — SAN — CGY @VAN —
Abby's got 3 tough games in there, while Turco looks pretty nice!!!! After that game @Pit, I'd probably go back to Turco, so...is this worth 2 trades?
I dont know...yet!
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| | | 70 | smallwhirled
ID: 471461310
Sun, Feb 29, 2004, 11:51
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I set my alarm. I'm up. I'm holding Aebisher, only 4 trades and I'm playing my cards against like 10 guys instead of the rest of the pool. I now have a nice advantage as all of my competition is down to 1 or 0.
I told J to get Turco, FWIW.
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| | | 71 | smallwhirled
ID: 471461310
Sun, Feb 29, 2004, 11:54
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March 7 is not too far away. I'm also waiting on Leetch. I think what happened to Lang last week put that into perspective, he got traded into a 4 in 13 I think it was. I can just get real aggressive when the deadline has passed. Gonchar and Leetch are the guys I'm looking at moving into.
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| | | 72 | J
Leader
ID: 49346417
Sun, Feb 29, 2004, 11:57
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I was just messing around with the sartibles. Check this out...
Pittsburgh Penguins, out of players listed on the sartibles (IE-played once in the last 30 days)
W Morozov, Aleksey PIT 880
D Tarnstrom, Dick PIT 1,320
G Caron, Sebastien PIT 2,190
G Fleury, Marc-Andre PIT 2,540
Those are the Pens most expensive TSN players, the other 21 guys...all 500k!!!!!
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| | | 73 | J
Leader
ID: 49346417
Sun, Feb 29, 2004, 11:59
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and yes, I went Abby-->Turco.
Thanks Walk...and SW!
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| | | 74 | smallwhirled
ID: 471461310
Sun, Feb 29, 2004, 12:02
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Damnit, I kept Hossa on my C team. I don't even care about them anymore, just a burden.
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| | | 75 | bookie
ID: 2610391513
Sun, Feb 29, 2004, 13:04
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Hey walk, thanks for the team sitting... I'm glad you didn't move Abbey.. Colorado will get it together again soon and have such a great schedule that I'm not too worried about Abbey... Turco is however on my short list of replacements for Luongo in a few days along with Nabokov and Broduer....
As for Leetch, that could work out well... I was initially thinking Redden would become Gonchar after Gonchar gets traded, but Leetch is a pretty good option too and will likely end up on a good team in a few days.....
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| | | 76 | R9
Leader
ID: 2624472
Sun, Feb 29, 2004, 16:41
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I moved to Gonchar hoping he'd do well in his B2B and then get traded... He missed both games with the flu and still hasn't gotten moved. Ugh.
I went Hossa -> Jagr with my last trade last night, not sure if it was a great move but I was drunk. ;)
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| | | 77 | walk
ID: 27132211
Sun, Feb 29, 2004, 17:49
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Yeah, Leetch got you a goal today, but with the -1 and five shots, and a loss, it amounted to a whopping +25. Turco could have been a huge bust, but Guerin and the Stars actually came back and won 5-4 in OT. A +36 for Turco, I believe. I am glad we held.
I am thinking we should consider moving Jagr to HEJDUK.
- walk
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| | | 78 | bookie
ID: 364442220
Sun, Feb 29, 2004, 22:38
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Didn't you just talk me into getting Jagr.. now you want me to get rid of him ;->..... I'll be taking a look at a few recent underperformers between now and wednesday... Jagr is one of them... Nasland becomes an option on the 3rd, so I may just hold until then....
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| | | 79 | simbot
ID: 541152140
Mon, Mar 01, 2004, 02:32
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Yeah, bookie, i'm looking to move Jagr after his game on the 2nd to Naslund. Seems like a logical move and hopefully my $$$ advantage can finally start paying off with my players. It seems like money hasn't been as big a factor as years before cause all the 'big guns' aren't scoring at as much consistently as before. I'm hoping Forsberg comes back quickly as well. IF he was healthy the whole year he would have been the leading TSNP getter by far.
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| | | 80 | R9
Leader
ID: 2624472
Mon, Mar 01, 2004, 02:57
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Not sure I understand the rush to get out of Jagr. He's got 4 games in 7 days, and 3 in 5 if you trade him after his game on the 2nd. Too, @BOS might be tough, but then its home for Washington and Pittsburgh, all within 4 days. And he appears to be healthy. So what am I missing?
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| | | 81 | walk
ID: 2921017
Mon, Mar 01, 2004, 08:11
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Just hasty impatience, that's all folks (R9). I should hold, I know. However, I also want to get Naslund, and someone will have to make room for him on the 2nd.
- walk
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| | | 82 | Irish Red
ID: 269311812
Tue, Mar 02, 2004, 09:24
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Berard - Pronger
Tanguay - Naslund
Irish Red
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| | | 83 | smallwhirled
ID: 42911317
Tue, Mar 02, 2004, 11:33
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I talk about holding Aebisher all the time, but now I'm wavering. Tough call, I have the trades to upgrade before the other top managers have a chance to. Problem is, Stillman and Sullivan have been solid.
Stillman/Sullivan > Naslund/Iginla seems good on paper, but not really gaining games, just not sure....lots of similar schedules.
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| | | 84 | smallwhirled
ID: 42911317
Tue, Mar 02, 2004, 12:01
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Well, I went for it.
Aebiesher > Kippy
Stillman > Iginla
Sullivan > Naslund
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| | | 85 | walk
ID: 2921017
Tue, Mar 02, 2004, 12:36
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Interesting SW, Calgary at the slumping St.L. tonight (okay, good one), then at Detroit, Dallas and then Colorado. I don't rate Kippy that high on my alternates to Aebischer list. However, my guess is you needed the $ to upgrade Stillman and Sullivan to Naslund and Iginla. If that's the case, then I understand.
- walk
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| | | 86 | smallwhirled
ID: 471461310
Tue, Mar 02, 2004, 12:42
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I was pretty close to Iginla and Naslund anyways, have 6+ in the bank, maybe a mil or so short, but I'm just waiting a few more days before I move into Gonchar and Leetch on new, revitalized teams.
Di Pietro just didn't do it for me this time, the Isles are not playing as well as they were before when I had him. Nabakov is a guy I took on my B team, but wouldn't have really allowed me to upgrade next week, which I was setting up for.
Combine the Kolzing trade rumors/the Avs (although not necessarily Aebisher himself) slumping/and the huge expected dollar loss today. That's 3 negatives to the 1 positive, long term schedule. I went for it, we'll see. Sullivan and Stillman are what worry me the most.
Demitra comes back tonight for the Blues I hear. Looking to move back into Tkachuk as well in the next week or so, but Iginla does give me the +1 game advantage and I can root for Kippy at the same time.
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| | | 87 | Great One@ Work
ID: 45230212
Tue, Mar 02, 2004, 15:35
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I got Turco the other day - despite the not that great schedule.. he is pretty reliable and their schedule the next few weeks is solid.
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| | | 88 | KWizard
ID: 308112720
Tue, Mar 02, 2004, 20:29
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I'm hesitant to make any moves until the trade deadline passes. The best winger to get may turn out to be the guy the Bolts trade for to play with St. Louis and Lecavalier.
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| | | 89 | tommyd
ID: 21119279
Tue, Mar 02, 2004, 20:57
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Go Luongo get that shutout!!!
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| | | 90 | walk
ID: 27132211
Wed, Mar 03, 2004, 07:22
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SW: Your Calgary moves have paid off immediate dividends. Quite nice!
- walk
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| | | 91 | bookie
ID: 2136257
Wed, Mar 03, 2004, 08:29
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Well it's a tough decision day.... I know I'm going to use some of my RV and go to Nasland from Illya today... But the real question for me is Luongo.... He's coming off the shutout and will surely start again tonight vs the Devils.. But I'm thinking of going to either Nabokov or Turco for the week starting today....
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| | | 92 | Irish Red
ID: 269311812
Wed, Mar 03, 2004, 09:40
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Aucoin - Sopel today.
Irish Red
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| | | 93 | bookie
ID: 2136257
Wed, Mar 03, 2004, 11:18
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Went:
Illya -> Nasland
Saw that Tugnutt may play tonight for Dallas, so decided to hold Luongo for one more day... could have gone to Nabokov, Broduer or Theo, but decided to hold...
Also holding Abbey, so depending on what the Avs do tonight, I may have to trade two goalies tomorrow not just one...
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| | | 94 | KWizard
ID: 5322630
Wed, Mar 03, 2004, 11:34
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Khabibulin's another goalie to consider for the next few weeks.
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| | | 95 | smallwhirled
ID: 42911317
Wed, Mar 03, 2004, 11:34
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It did pay off quite nicely. I can't remember how many times I've made a pickup like that and got 100 points the first day out of it...it's been a lot, that's for sure.
I'm hanging on to Luongo today, but I'll likely trade him tommorrow for someone. I'm very, very tempted to trade Jagr now for Guerin or an Ott guy, but I just don't have that great feeling. May turn out better using the trade now, but I think Jagr will get up for games against his former teams.
Gonchar is now a Bruin, depending on when he's going to play, I may get him as early as tommorrow.
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| | | 96 | smallwhirled
ID: 42911317
Wed, Mar 03, 2004, 11:36
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Good call on Khabi, he was awesome down the stretch for me last year. The Grahme thing scares me a little. Grahme could start for a lot of teams IMHO. They were spliting more earlier, but it looks like Khabi is playing most of them now.
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| | | 97 | walk
ID: 2921017
Wed, Mar 03, 2004, 12:46
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Luongo and Aebischer --> Khabibulin and Nabokov; most likely moves I am making tomorrow.
I may also follow suit with Smallwhirled and trade either Redden or McCabe for Gonchar. I noticed that Gonchar is leading the league in points for a defenseman, with 50. However, thanks to the hapless Caps team, and his aggressive style, he also has a minus 20 rating. I bet (Doh!) that Gonchar will continue the scoring with Boston, but that -20 plus/minus will become "more positive," and thus make his net total TSN considerably higher.
- walk
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| | | 98 | R9
Leader
ID: 2624472
Wed, Mar 03, 2004, 12:49
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I've had Sergei "I've been sick for 8 days" Gonchar for, um, 8 days now. I sure know how to pick'em... ;)
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| | | 99 | The Dienasty
ID: 3810111222
Wed, Mar 03, 2004, 20:40
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My team is in a bad way right now... Time for some wholesale changes. Tonights action may still affect some of these moves, however
Pre freeze tomorrow:
Aebisher -> Nabokov
Slegr -> Gonchar
Post freeze tomorrow:
Thornton -> Richards
Jagr -> Guerin
Raycroft -> Khabby/Turco (depending on remaining funds)
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| | | 100 | walk
ID: 27132211
Thu, Mar 04, 2004, 06:12
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Smallwhirled... do you think Leetch is as good or better a choice to acquire instead of Gonchar? (more games; similar production levels, cheaper price)
- walk
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| | | 101 | smallwhirled
ID: 471461310
Thu, Mar 04, 2004, 07:12
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Definitely. I'll look at some schedules in a few hours after my mid-term, but Leetch should be every bit as good as Gonchar. The problem with my teams, is I already have McCabe. The guy I'm going to trade is Johnnson, and I don't want two Leafs D-men, therefore it's Gonchar for me most likely.
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| | | 102 | walk
ID: 2921017
Thu, Mar 04, 2004, 09:01
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Yeah, I hearya on that SW -- having two leafs defensemen is not optimal. I currently have two Senators defensemen and wish I did not. I have McCabe, Redden and Chara. The more obvious move for me is to trade Redden (or Chara) to Gonchar. While I love the opponents Boston has over the next two weeks, Boston has one fewer game than Toronto (not sure if that is critical though).
Chances are, I move Redden to Gonchar...but my heart wants to move to Leetch (dang, how I love that guy...sob-sob, sniff-sniff).
- walk
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| | | 103 | R9
Leader
ID: 2624472
Thu, Mar 04, 2004, 09:02
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You could always grab both, by going McCabe -> Leetch...
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| | | 104 | walk
ID: 2921017
Thu, Mar 04, 2004, 09:20
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Yes, R9. I though of that, too, however, that would leave me with but 1 trade in the bank. It seems too early in the week to have only 1 trade, given the possibility of injuries. So, for now, I think I have the freedom to make 1 D move, not two. Agree or disagree (not a rhetorical question)?
- walk
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| | | 105 | R9
Leader
ID: 2624472
Thu, Mar 04, 2004, 09:25
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I'd definitely agree there. I guess you moved your two goalies as well? I'm torn on Aeb, but one factor there is that if I hold him I can make the Chara -> Leetch trade. I think I'll wait and see what Smallwhirled is doing. ;)
One thing is for sure though, you don't want to be down to 1 trade on Thursday morning. Especially not for a Tor -> Tor dman trade. I'd worry that Leetch will take over McCabe's spot (and pts!) on the PP though...
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| | | 106 | walk
ID: 2921017
Thu, Mar 04, 2004, 09:41
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Thx R9. Yeah, I moved both goalies: Luongo and Abby for Nabby and Khabi (abby, nabby, khabi...gimme a break!!).
:-)
Leetch will Q-back that PP. That is what he DOES.
walk
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| | | 107 | R9
Leader
ID: 2624472
Thu, Mar 04, 2004, 09:45
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lol! Abby choices: Khabi, Nabby, Kippy, Flippy, Mippy, Bippy... ;)
I'm thinking Chara -> Leetch is a nice upgrade, so I'll probably hold Aeb. Ugh, I remember when I used to have a trades still in the bank come Tuesday...
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| | | 108 | walk
ID: 2921017
Thu, Mar 04, 2004, 09:46
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R9: Go to new thread...easy navigation.
cheers, - walk
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