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| Posted by: ¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
- [177142220] Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 21:14
It's time for season four of About Time Hockey Starts; Dr. Doom has agreed to return as commissioner [applause]. This is a Yahoo! league with head-to-head scoring.
Here's where we left off at the end of the 2003–2004 season ... recognize your team's name?
ThinkbigIII
HoserNight in Canada [in]
philflyboy
StL Blues
Toral Wheatfarmers
Dan
TaxStars
Twarpys Tdotters
double hockey quiks
Challengers Blazers
Little M
Dr. Doom [in]
Curbys Ice Capades [in]
Roguination
Please post here if you're coming back. Those who are in our ATHS baseball group will find the hockey ID and password posted on the (baseball) league message board.
Default settings, open to discussion:
Draft Type: Offline Draft
Max Teams: 14
Scoring Type: Head-to-Head
Max Moves: 30
Max Trades: No maximum
Trade Reject Time: 2
Trade End Date: March 9, 2006
Waiver Time: 2 days
Can't Cut List Provider: Yahoo! Sports
Trade Review: League Votes
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules
Weekly Deadline: Daily - Tomorrow
Start Scoring on: Week 1
Roster Positions: C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, G, G, BN, BN, BN, BN, IR, IR
Stat Categories: G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, GWG, W, GAA, SV%, SHO |
| | | 1 | Toral
ID: 53422511
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 21:22
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Who won the baseball league?
Toral
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| | | 4 | ¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
ID: 27412220
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 21:41
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The 2004 baseball league? StL Cards.
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| | | 5 | Toral
ID: 53422511
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 21:43
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Congrats Kirk!
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| | | 6 | StLCards
ID: 527501213
Mon, Aug 22, 2005, 21:49
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Thanks Toral.
Not sure I'll play hockey or not. Not sure who all the players are anymore or where they are even playing!
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| | | 7 | philflyboy@work
ID: 5152167
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 07:28
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I am in will register later today
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| | | 8 | isles72
ID: 395412514
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 09:49
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please let me know if theres an opening as I would be interested in playing v.s you guys...
isles72@hotmail.com
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| | | 9 | Little M
ID: 467211816
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 10:56
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Count me in.
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| | | 10 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Tue, Aug 23, 2005, 12:53
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I'll be back.
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| | | 11 | Twarpy
ID: 3878511
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 08:33
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I'm in.
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| | | 12 | StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 12:12
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I've decided I'm not going to play. I did have a lot of fun with the various leagues but I have too many other things going on right now.
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| | | 13 | philflyboy
ID: 127332712
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 12:06
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I have a friend who is really interested in playing if we need someone. Let me know....
he will be active in the league and works on a computer for a living so he will be around to draft.
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| | | 14 | ¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
ID: 17232821
Sun, Aug 28, 2005, 22:23
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I just sent the league info to last season's managers (excluding those who have already signed up and StLCards). Perhaps by the end of the week we'll have a better idea who's returning.
Doom, it's your call on which new/replacement managers to invite.
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| | | 15 | Little M
ID: 467211816
Mon, Aug 29, 2005, 11:46
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I registered at Kafenatid about an hour ago and have not yet received my e-mail response allowing me to activate my account. I am starting to wonder if I entered something incorrectly on the form. Does it usually take this long?
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| | | 16 | Dr. Doom
ID: 7113048
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 12:22
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Little M,
Have you received your activation email from Kafenatid yet. If not you might try the feedback link at kafenatid.
Currently we have 8 signed up, have not heard from Dan, Twarpy, Toral, quick, Thinkbig and Challenger.
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| | | 17 | Little M
ID: 467211816
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 12:24
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I must have typed my e-mail address incorrectly, because I did not receive the activation response. I have now reregistered and have signed up for the draft.
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| | | 18 | ¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
ID: 367383014
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 15:50
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Doom,
Two managers from my other Yahoo! baseball league (the one where my team is actually doing well) are very interested in hockey. If you think there will still be room available in this group and you want to invite them, let me know and I'll send them the necessary info.
Twarpy said "I'm in" (post 11 above) but has not yet signed up for the league.
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| | | 19 | Dr. Doom
ID: 387231512
Tue, Aug 30, 2005, 18:28
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Thanks Moose,
My bad on Twarpy, and I'll let you know ASAP about your two prospects.
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| | | 20 | Chickachu
ID: 44758243
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 04:42
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Is There a space in the league that i can join....
if can send me league name and Id thx
quang_vietzon20@hotmail.com
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| | | 21 | philflyboy@work
ID: 5152167
Wed, Aug 31, 2005, 10:44
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how close are we to starting the draft? I will be away for the weekend and I need to know if we will be starting the draft before then so I can make arrangements
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| | | 22 | isles72
ID: 395412514
Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 18:56
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just a reminder post #8 ....I'm interested
isles72@hotmail.com
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| | | 23 | Dr. Doom
ID: 430271612
Sat, Sep 03, 2005, 00:01
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Ms Moose, give your folks a call, lets fill this up so we can get on with it. Chickachu and isles, I'll drop you an email.
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| | | 24 | ¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
ID: 5685439
Sat, Sep 03, 2005, 10:57
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Will do.
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| | | 25 | isles72
ID: 395412514
Sat, Sep 03, 2005, 12:32
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okdokee smokee
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| | | 26 | Dan
Sustainer
ID: 054747823
Tue, Sep 06, 2005, 14:22
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I'll be in again for sure! Sorry haven't checked this forum in awhile.
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| | | 27 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Thu, Sep 08, 2005, 13:33
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We are up to 11, will be twelve when Dan signs up. Three teams are new to me, I assume pfb and Ms. Moose's buddies. I sent emails to isles and Chickachu, got a bounce back on one of them, neither is signed up. I'd like to get the league finalized, we do have time, but let's not leave it until the end.
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| | | 28 | isles72
ID: 395412514
Thu, Sep 08, 2005, 13:35
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my email shouldnt bounce ....but I havent received anything from you
isles72@hotmail.com
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| | | 29 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Thu, Sep 08, 2005, 14:37
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Isle, I have re-sent from my home email.
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| | | 30 | isles72
ID: 395412514
Thu, Sep 08, 2005, 16:09
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ok , I'm all logged in yahoo/and kaf ...
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| | | 31 | philflyboy
ID: 51752415
Fri, Sep 09, 2005, 11:44
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any idea of a start date yet?
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| | | 32 | Little M
ID: 467211816
Fri, Sep 09, 2005, 16:07
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I am going to be at a golf tournament all day and night on Monday and won't be able to check in on that day. If we start on the weekend and I know the draft order, I can give someone a queue. Alternatively, I will be back on Tuesday.
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| | | 33 | Dr. Doom
ID: 7113048
Fri, Sep 09, 2005, 16:09
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I have not seen or heard anything from Chickachu, we are at twelve, with Dan still promising to show up, so we need either Chickachu to show up, someone else from the old guard or one new volunteer.
After that happens we will commence as soon as we can. I will set the order at the earliest possible moment, and then we begin.
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| | | 34 | philflyboy
ID: 51752415
Sun, Sep 11, 2005, 06:52
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I will be out of town from monday morning until tuesday afternoon. If things are going to start before then let me know today and I will make sure I have my picks given to someone.
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| | | 35 | Dr. Doom
ID: 430271612
Sun, Sep 11, 2005, 13:03
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I don't expect we will be starting before then, if I don't hear from anyone in the next day or so, we will go with 12.
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| | | 36 | isles72
ID: 395412514
Sun, Sep 11, 2005, 13:54
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just a heads up
I have day surgery this comin wednesday .....
wed evening start would be ok as I should be feeling better by then - damn colonoscopy
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| | | 37 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 02:43
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FYI
I am on the road Tueday (13th) all day...may not see a computer 'till late Wednesday.
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| | | 38 | Little M
ID: 467211816
Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 10:05
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If we have 12 teams, let's get this thing started. I realize that some people are away today, but they might be picking until 11th or 12th anyway.
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| | | 39 | Dr. Doom
ID: 387231512
Tue, Sep 13, 2005, 10:18
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We will go with 12, Dan, sorry we can't wait forever. Twarpy you need to get signed up for Kafenatid, so I can set the order, then we will commence.
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| | | 40 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Wed, Sep 14, 2005, 03:45
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I'm back..for about a week. I'm with < m...let's get it done. Finishing 12th is real similar to finishing 14th. I do love the H2H leagues.
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| | | 41 | Dr. Doom
ID: 7113048
Wed, Sep 14, 2005, 15:28
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We are set to go, as soon as everyone is in Kafenatid, I'll set the order and we'll launch.
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| | | 42 | Dr. Doom
ID: 7113048
Wed, Sep 14, 2005, 15:59
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Order is set, unfortunately for me I ended up with the first pick, I really didn't want that. Here is the order.
1 Dr. Doom
2 philflyboy
3 butchie
4 Mario LeMoose
5 Dan
6 Twarpy
7 ben_979
8 Taxman
9 jakerbelly
10 RogueNine
11 Little M123
12 Curby
13 lampeterlazers
14 Uther44
I'll post the same on our draft forum thread on Kafenatid.
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| | | 43 | ¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
ID: 208241318
Wed, Sep 14, 2005, 20:31
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Doom, would you post the draft order here by Yahoo! team name as well? Thanks.
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| | | 44 | Dr. Doom
ID: 430271612
Wed, Sep 14, 2005, 21:22
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1. Dr. Doom - Dr. Doom
2. philflyboy - Philly Cheese Steaks
3. butchie -Pine Street 72'ers
4. Mario LeMoose - HoserNight in Canada
5. Dan - Dan
6. Twarpy - Tdotted
7. ben_979 - Vincible
8. Taxman - Taxing the Net
9. jakerbelly - Rip Van Hockey
10. RogueNine - The Ridiculous Rogue
11. Little M123 - Little M
12. Curby - Curby's Ice Capades
13. lampeterlazers - Lampeter Lazers
14. Uther44 - Akron Senators
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| | | 45 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Thu, Sep 15, 2005, 10:39
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Anyone got a handle on Twarpy?
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| | | 46 | philflyboy
ID: 51752415
Thu, Sep 15, 2005, 11:25
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I was wondering the same thing Taxman. I have his IM name but I have not seen him on at all.
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| | | 47 | Dr. Doom
ID: 7113048
Thu, Sep 15, 2005, 17:38
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We're moving again. I'll see how it goes for a while, then perhaps institute a time limit. I'm not really bothered as long as we finish before the season starts. Thoughts, anyone?
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| | | 48 | Little M
ID: 46881516
Thu, Sep 15, 2005, 17:47
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We need to do about 220 picks in 20 days. I say give it a few days to see how we are doing and consider starting a clock on Monday morning if things are not progressing on schedule.
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| | | 49 | Little M
ID: 46881516
Thu, Sep 15, 2005, 17:54
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Anyone willing to take a queue in case it gets to me tonight?
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| | | 50 | Dr. Doom
ID: 7113048
Thu, Sep 15, 2005, 17:55
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I can do it.
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| | | 51 | Little M
ID: 46881516
Thu, Sep 15, 2005, 18:05
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Dr. Doom,
I don't seem to be able to select you as a designated picker. Any idea what the problem might be?
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| | | 52 | Little M
ID: 46881516
Thu, Sep 15, 2005, 18:07
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I think that I have figured it out.
It is because you are the league commissoner.
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| | | 53 | Dr. Doom
ID: 7113048
Thu, Sep 15, 2005, 18:09
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I think in Queue management you can select "League Commissioner" as the recipient, but I suspect my view of the available options might be different than yours.
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| | | 54 | Little M
ID: 46881516
Thu, Sep 15, 2005, 18:10
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Queue sent.
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| | | 55 | Dr. Doom
ID: 7113048
Thu, Sep 15, 2005, 18:22
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Got it.
Anyone else, I'm here for you. :)
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| | | 56 | philflyboy
ID: 127332712
Thu, Sep 15, 2005, 20:32
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28 hours and only a little over half way done the first round. We really need to pick it up or start the clock asap.
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| | | 57 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Fri, Sep 16, 2005, 03:46
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Left a short queue with Doom.
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| | | 58 | philflyboy
ID: 51752415
Fri, Sep 16, 2005, 09:10
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anyone friends with Jakerbelly? 15 hours and counting and still no response from him
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| | | 59 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Fri, Sep 16, 2005, 10:07
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Finally moving, this is not good so far. Thanks R9 and Little M for your queues.
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| | | 60 | philflyboy
ID: 51752415
Fri, Sep 16, 2005, 10:16
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lampeterlazer works on computers so he will pick right away. so be ready Uther it will be to you soon.
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| | | 61 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Fri, Sep 16, 2005, 10:33
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Sent another queue to Dr. D.
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| | | 62 | philflyboy
ID: 51752415
Fri, Sep 16, 2005, 13:53
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Ms LeMoose did you tell curby he was up? I know you guys are friends
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| | | 63 | ¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
ID: 488381611
Fri, Sep 16, 2005, 15:54
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With friends like Curby ...
Just peeked in here myself to see how the draft is progressing ... just like negotations between the owners and the NHLPA. I'll e-mail Curby.
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| | | 64 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Fri, Sep 16, 2005, 17:33
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| Picks Made | Time Per Pick | Picks Left | Projected Finish | | 11 | 3:39:17 | 213 | 10/19/05 03:58:30 am |
any questions :(
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| | | 65 | isles72
ID: 395412514
Fri, Sep 16, 2005, 18:42
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we started about 10 days too late
definately need a 6 hr clock
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| | | 66 | philflyboy
ID: 127332712
Fri, Sep 16, 2005, 22:18
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so when are we starting the clock? can't be to soon in my opinion
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| | | 67 | philflyboy
ID: 51752415
Sat, Sep 17, 2005, 12:53
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things already going faster with the clock running.
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| | | 68 | Dr. Doom
ID: 430271612
Sat, Sep 17, 2005, 12:54
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We do have a couple missed picks. I don't understand why it takes so long.
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| | | 69 | Twarpy
ID: 49321191
Sat, Sep 17, 2005, 17:17
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Looking for someone willing to take a queue for tonite.
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| | | 70 | Little M
ID: 148151717
Sat, Sep 17, 2005, 18:21
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I don't have a problem with the clock, but it would have been nice to have a bit of advance notice.
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| | | 71 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Sat, Sep 17, 2005, 22:26
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Looks like we will end the night 9 minutes short of jakerbelly having his clock run out. I would be in favor of moving the clock to a 3 hour (or even a two hour) clock.
The managers (newer ones for the most part) in this league do not exhibit any respect for the other managers by continuing to not communicate with the league (over the Guru boards or any other way). They do not leave queues nor do they post when they expect to be away from the boards. Apparently uther44 is not aware that a draft, albeit a very slow draft, is underway.
I would not object to reforming the league with fewer managers who actually want to conduct an orderly, courteous timely draft (probably requires an expansion of the rosters). My guess is that a manager who is not able (fails to) provide timely draft picks will not be active in the league as to setting rosters, much less responding to trade offers. We have more than one in the current league. Another option would be to find a replacement manager for me.
So far this draft has been much like immediate past non-season experienced by the NHL. Frustrating...disappointing...dulls the enjoyment of the (this) game. The difference is...we can fix this.
OK..end of rant. Gee, is my frustration showing or what. I am going to try and get some sleep.
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| | | 72 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Sat, Sep 17, 2005, 23:28
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Got up to get a drink..and found I was up. Pick made.
Nothing changes from my post #71. I'm even more irratated. So that I wouldn't have wasted my evening sitting at the computer, Jakerbelly could have posted that he would be gone 'till 10 EST..or that he needed a few hours to make his pick..or that..what the hell, we both made our picks.
Like I said, another option is to replace my tired unforgiving a$$.
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| | | 73 | Twarpy
ID: 49321191
Sun, Sep 18, 2005, 10:42
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Was just on the phone with Dan, and he's away from a computer his pick is Marian Hossa, so if Doom or someone who knows how to make a pick for him on Kafenatid could, do it and lets keep this thing moving.
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| | | 74 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Sun, Sep 18, 2005, 10:52
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Done, thanks Twarpy.
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| | | 75 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Sun, Sep 18, 2005, 10:54
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Taxman, I am with you, very frustrated, I don't know why you sign up for one of these, if you can't or won't make your picks in a timely fashion.
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| | | 76 | Little M
ID: 46881516
Sun, Sep 18, 2005, 13:39
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Hopefully, now that everyone is aware that the draft has started and that there is a clock,the pace of the draft will pick up.
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| | | 77 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Sun, Sep 18, 2005, 13:41
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I'll probably need to send someone a queue. Unless philflyboy makes his pick in the next hour, I will be out for a couple hours.
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| | | 78 | Little M
ID: 46881516
Sun, Sep 18, 2005, 13:57
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I will be around until around 4pm.
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| | | 79 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Sun, Sep 18, 2005, 14:18
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PFB and I are done, moving on.
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| | | 80 | isles72
ID: 395412514
Sun, Sep 18, 2005, 18:40
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#79
what does that mean ?
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| | | 81 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Sun, Sep 18, 2005, 18:46
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It means we picked, sorry, I should have picked better words.
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| | | 82 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Sun, Sep 18, 2005, 23:51
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I am not a good person for continuing to pick on just one manager as I am about to do on Jakerbelly, but the elapsed time for the round 2 pick and the unmade round 3 pick is 7 plus hours (of course that excludes the draft pause). Their first round pick, before we had a clock, took almost 2o something hours.
Unacceptable. I reurge my "lets get rid" of some of these managers who can neither leave a queue (the benifit of using the kafenatid.net "On the Clock" draft software), nor a message that they will be away for the night or in the alternative let's get rid of me.
I am fine with either result. I doubt that jakerbelly cares either way were he/she to know that there was a problem. Or maybe whomever invited them into the league can coerce a contact phone number for the time they post on the boards that they will be absent for some extended period of time should they be incapable of leaving a queue.
If I have this straight....we as a league today, have done 15 picks in 12 hours including the 4 hour no pick caused by Dan's absence this afternoon. Jakerbelly has failed to get three picks in within the 31 hours he has been on the clock.
The lack of response on these boards to my overt critisizm of Jelly...no make that Jakerbelly (JB)and the continued excessive time for JB to make picks confirm that this manager is neither a class act nor a considerateof fellow managers. JB must think that this is another Yahoo public league and that manners, promptness and communication are neither required nor expected.
Am I beating a dead horse here? Let's $hit or get off the pot.
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| | | 83 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Mon, Sep 19, 2005, 05:33
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Queue left with Doom.
Tax, while I'm pretty frustrated with the current pace, I realize it is the weekend. The other draft has been stalled for two days by one picker who is likely away for the weekend. If this pace keeps up during the week though, we'll have to do something...
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| | | 84 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Mon, Sep 19, 2005, 08:24
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I will need a phone buddy for this upcoming weekend, starting on Thursday (out of town w/o computer during the day...and probably night also). I will carry cheat sheets with me.
Sorry for continuing rant R9. You are the one standing by with next pick. Actually with exception for the "bologna" to yours and my sandwich, the draft has picked up quite nicely.
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| | | 85 | Little M
ID: 46881516
Mon, Sep 19, 2005, 10:07
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Anyone around for a queue for when R9 or DD make the next pick? Otherwise, I will check in at lunch time.
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| | | 86 | Little M
ID: 46881516
Mon, Sep 19, 2005, 10:08
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Never mind.
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| | | 87 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Mon, Sep 19, 2005, 10:09
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Made the pick for Rogue.
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| | | 88 | philflyboy
ID: 51752415
Mon, Sep 19, 2005, 10:10
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I am around at this email address during the day if you need to leave a queue.
Taxman-I will be around all weekend if I can help
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| | | 89 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Mon, Sep 19, 2005, 10:13
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I will be around as well, except for a respite of funerals and soon-to-be funerals :( Since pfb and I are the same end of the draft, not sure how much help that is.
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| | | 90 | Little M
ID: 46881516
Mon, Sep 19, 2005, 17:47
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Anyone going to be around in 90 minutes when Curby times out?
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| | | 91 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Mon, Sep 19, 2005, 19:50
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pfb..e-mail sent re phone duty
Dr Doom do you have the R9 next pick? Doesn't really make much difference as the next manager has run the draft clock the max amount each time they have drafted (round 3 was cute...ran 3:15 hrs before draft pause last night, them drafted this morning at 8:45 = exactly 4 hours) meaning that we are through for the night.
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| | | 92 | philflyboy
ID: 127332712
Mon, Sep 19, 2005, 20:02
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Taxman-email received, always willing to help my friend
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| | | 93 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Mon, Sep 19, 2005, 20:29
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Sorry, went out to supper with my boys, Rogue has picked.
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| | | 94 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Mon, Sep 19, 2005, 21:25
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Thanks doubleD.
With 45 minutes left on tonights clock for pick 4.6, @ 2 hrs 28 minutes will be left to start tomorrow morning. The over/under on pick 4.6 is 9:15 tomorrow morning.
I'll take the over (has untill 9:28 AM).
And by the way, Doc D(emento) Any known cures for clockus maximus desease suffered by JB. Obviously not contagious as all other exposed to illness have shown avid resistance to symptons.
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| | | 95 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Mon, Sep 19, 2005, 21:45
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Taxman, I have no idea, but it won't happen again. Unfortunately, it won't help us in the now.
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| | | 96 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Mon, Sep 19, 2005, 23:35
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*&^#^%$@$&* drat and double drat. I've been shown up. Only took 3 hours and beat the pooky out of the over.
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| | | 97 | isles72
ID: 395412514
Tue, Sep 20, 2005, 06:18
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Since i'm picking soon and dont want to hold up the draft like others I thought it would be nice to leave a que
check your emails when its time for me to pik , thanks
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| | | 98 | isles72
ID: 395412514
Tue, Sep 20, 2005, 15:05
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round 5 que sent ...
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| | | 99 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Tue, Sep 20, 2005, 16:24
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| Picks Made | Time Per Pick | Picks Left | Projected Finish | | 60 | 2:21:45 | 164 | 10/06/05 07:49:32 pm |
We'll almost finish before the season starts.
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| | | 100 | philflyboy
ID: 127332712
Tue, Sep 20, 2005, 16:28
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we are gaining time now though with the clock running. Keep it running through the weekends and we should be ok
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| | | 101 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Tue, Sep 20, 2005, 22:15
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Thanks Isles72. Nice to play with a considerate manager.
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| | | 102 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Tue, Sep 20, 2005, 22:33
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No queue for Rogue this time, wtg Jaker.
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| | | 103 | philflyboy
ID: 51752415
Wed, Sep 21, 2005, 11:07
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we moving now Uther is up to make the turn to round 6
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| | | 104 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Wed, Sep 21, 2005, 13:47
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Doom...if he has no queue..and is going to miss his pick...put aholder in for him .... ie Goldie Hawn....Bobby Orr..etc. That will allow the clock to run on Jaker, who is prohibited by the Kafenatid software of making a pick before R9 picks or times out.
You have to enter something to allow Jaker to draft.
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| | | 105 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Wed, Sep 21, 2005, 14:08
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I made a pick for Rogue, if it's not who he wants, he can post here, that pick can be reselected, and I will do what I can to correct the situation.
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| | | 106 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Wed, Sep 21, 2005, 14:15
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I accidentally (sort of) clicked on the stop draft button, then when I restarted, the clock was reset to 4 hours. At that point, I decided to make some kind of pick so we wouldn't have to wait 4 hours.
I was torn about making this pick, Rogue has been good, but after I screwed up the clock, I didn't want to wait an additional period of time.
KKB, perhaps you could put a "are you sure" thing in there, I didn't know if that link would send me to a new page or what, oops. But that is a tough one, I hate extra pages, just for the sake of having them. My screw up for sure, I was hoping to find some other method of expiditing the draft.
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| | | 107 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Wed, Sep 21, 2005, 21:30
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No problem guys, sorry for holding things up. Had a busy day and couldn't get access to the net.
I'll change my pick from Zubov to Brian Leetch, D, Bos. Sullivan is who I wanted and then Leetch, so no harm done.
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| | | 108 | Dr. Doom
ID: 318572120
Wed, Sep 21, 2005, 22:12
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When it gets to my turn, I am going to try and undo and redo all the picks back to Zubov. Shouldn't take long once I get back home, in about 45 minutes from now. Assuming it is my turn to pick then.
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| | | 109 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Wed, Sep 21, 2005, 23:03
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Fixed, Leetch is your Rogue.
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| | | 110 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Thu, Sep 22, 2005, 00:01
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I have a pick left from earlier queue from butchie. The queue specified the previous pick with no mention of this pick.
I am going to enter his pick...DD hope you can fix if I am messing it up.
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| | | 111 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Thu, Sep 22, 2005, 00:50
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I can fix if he has a different choice, that isn't taken when he resurfaces.
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| | | 112 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Thu, Sep 22, 2005, 11:48
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Queue for next two rounds sent to Doom.
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| | | 113 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Thu, Sep 22, 2005, 12:26
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I have received it.
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| | | 114 | jakerbelly
ID: 568552213
Thu, Sep 22, 2005, 14:56
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Taxman, Hurry up and pick! Your holding up the draft!!!! 1 hour 7 minutes and counting, tick-tick tick :)
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| | | 115 | philflyboy
ID: 51752415
Thu, Sep 22, 2005, 15:06
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Taxman is out for the weekend. I am drafting for him when I can talk with him. I tried a few minutes ago but he is in a meeting I will pick for him when he gets out.
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| | | 116 | philflyboy
ID: 51752415
Thu, Sep 22, 2005, 15:52
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JB sorry about the 2 hour and 2 minute delay in the draft, Taxman and I will do our utmost to improve our speed over the next 8 rounds. Happy drafting
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| | | 117 | isles72
ID: 395412514
Thu, Sep 22, 2005, 19:48
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re 110 - I was low on rw'ers ,so choosing for me at midnight was ok with the same que
usually I will state whether or not if the que is for only that particular round - however , I cannot remember if I did so with this particular one ....so I'm not gonna complain
in the future though , please check .
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| | | 118 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Thu, Sep 22, 2005, 20:28
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aha...computer access at night
#117 isles72..my bad. I did your ck you draft thru round 6 and Satan (at the top of my draft list at the time) was the only RW you had drafted. You did say the que was for Round 6, but did not say "only". I was not aware of the time when I pulled the trigger. I am sorry and will not expand or interpret next time. Guess I had some fool notion that I could get a pick in before I left town in the morning. A stoooopid thought on my part.
JB...dude......Welcome to the party!!! Yep, you got me....Mr. Hurry up and DRaft..leave a queue oe ESD (eat $hit and die) was the hold up this afternoon. I am sorry (not really...if I had computer access, I would have posted a"In meeting, will pick ina couple of hours"). But congrats on calling me out. That you noticed my delinquincy is a super victory by you. Welcome to the club.
DD..I am getting your e-mails, but my blackberry will not send???? Why....I figure because I am just lucky (and I don't know...it is much smarter than I)
I am going to work up queue and will send in the morning i\f it is not back to me by then
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| | | 119 | philflyboy
ID: 127332712
Thu, Sep 22, 2005, 20:59
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Taxman glad to see you can get access at night. Did you get my emails to your blackberry today trying to give you some of the picks?
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| | | 120 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Fri, Sep 23, 2005, 09:34
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pfb...yes...but cannot e-mail out???? We will have to do picks by phone if draft takes off today. I have sent queue for round 8..if players are left..use 'em in round 9. I will be available by phone.
btw...sending me blackberry updates on players picked truly helps me keep current with available players on mycheat sheets. Thanks for the help.
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| | | 121 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Fri, Sep 23, 2005, 09:45
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We're up to JakerBelly and then Taxman. I picked for Rogue from his queue.
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| | | 122 | philflyboy
ID: 51752415
Fri, Sep 23, 2005, 09:51
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nice run there lets keep it up.
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| | | 123 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Fri, Sep 23, 2005, 10:16
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ben_979, should be picking soon, Dan and Twarpy, not sure. I send a note to Dan via AIM which is forwarded to his phone, not sure if or when he gets and responds to them.
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| | | 124 | philflyboy
ID: 51752415
Fri, Sep 23, 2005, 10:30
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I tried to contact Dan that way too one time when he timed out. It didn't help then
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| | | 125 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Fri, Sep 23, 2005, 17:12
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I would like to turn the clock off on the weekend, but we are barely even now projected to beat the start of the season. Dan and Twarpy, it would be nice if you could send queues.
If we start sliding, back into the season for a start, I will drop the clock to a lesser limit.
The teams should be mostly up to date on the Yahoo site as well. If you could check that I have not screwed up any of the teams so far, that would be appreciated as well.
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| | | 126 | isles72
ID: 395412514
Fri, Sep 23, 2005, 18:31
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why do some people join if they cant commit to the ongoings of a slow live draft ?
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| | | 127 | ¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
ID: 578162312
Fri, Sep 23, 2005, 18:37
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Doom, if you turn off the clock for the weekend and we get stuck on an absent manager, that sets up the potential for no picks being made for two days. I'd rather keep the clock ticking and settle for a little progress rather than none at all.
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| | | 128 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Fri, Sep 23, 2005, 18:41
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I said I would like too, not that I will, cause that ain't happening.
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| | | 129 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Fri, Sep 23, 2005, 19:31
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Back from 9 on the feet. Danm, that concrete is hard on the back and soles. I am off for 10 hours..but tomorrow it is 11 hours.ugg.
Seems that the queue I left had zero impact on moving the draft forward. DD, my sugestion is that you go to a shorter clock now, rather than after the w/e. Dan and Twarpy are not leaving cues or contact numbers causing 8 hour stall each time they come up to pick. If the clock was cut to two hours, we would only loose 4 hours and the rest of the managers who are drafting are savy enough to leave queues or contact numbers.
Anotherway to look at it is that with a 9 hour pause and completing 1 round a day, in 15 hours, we are losing 8 hours to the double Dan/Twarpy time out, and the other 12 managers make their selections (timely) in the other 7 hours (avg of 30 min. per pick). What am I missing here.
btw..thanks for entering the pick off my queue this morning.
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| | | 130 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Fri, Sep 23, 2005, 19:37
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No problem tax-dude, I hope all goes well for you in the coming days, quite a nasty situation down there.
If have no problem changing the clock either, it does appear that most of us are keeping it going, the 8 hour break certainly is painful.
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| | | 131 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Fri, Sep 23, 2005, 19:38
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Ms. Moose was all over her pick, outstanding.
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| | | 132 | philflyboy
ID: 127332712
Fri, Sep 23, 2005, 19:59
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back to butchie here I don't have a queue for him this round though
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| | | 133 | Dr. Doom
ID: 7113048
Fri, Sep 23, 2005, 22:05
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We are back to Dan, and appears we are holding for another 4 hours, I could push us through, not sure if I should.
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| | | 134 | philflyboy
ID: 127332712
Fri, Sep 23, 2005, 22:27
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ok either way you go on that one
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| | | 135 | Dr. Doom
ID: 7113048
Sat, Sep 24, 2005, 14:20
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I have a queue from Rogue for as long as it lasts, most likely one or two rounds.
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| | | 136 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Sat, Sep 24, 2005, 20:27
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OK...
Another day and more timed out draft picks....but they can come back in and fill in their picks later. This draft has motivated me to ask Fred to add an option for the League Commissioner that, if elected, a manager that runs the draft clock forfeits the missed draft pick, and is simultaneously awarded a draft pick at the end of the draft. It is bad enough that the managers running the draft clock are allowed to come back in...at their leisure (which is usualyy within a few hours of when their draft time expired) and select a player for the elapsed draft pick. I would like to see this option limited in application until an offending manager has allowed clock to run at least one time w/o penalty.
There currently is no penalty for the blatantly impolite drafting practices of the offending managers. There should be a reward for every action and intentional in-action.
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| | | 137 | philflyboy
ID: 127332712
Sat, Sep 24, 2005, 20:36
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I was talking with someone else about the same penalty. I agree with you 100% taxman. One missed pick no penalty the rest must be picked at the end of the draft!! I am currently waiting for someone to pick in another draft. The clock is turned off for the weekend and he is now on the clock for over 25 hours. And this is not the first time it has happened with him.
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| | | 138 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Sat, Sep 24, 2005, 22:34
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After the freeze tonight the time limit is going to three hours. Should be less that that I imagine, but time is wasting.
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| | | 139 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Sat, Sep 24, 2005, 22:42
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It's a step in the right direction.
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| | | 140 | Taxman
ID: 258582422
Sun, Sep 25, 2005, 08:52
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queueu sent lat night to phb and DD. I think I can ck in in about three hours. Call me if the rest of my queue is selected as Zednick was. After tear down will be trying to get home...but that could be a 12 hour drive because of the return of evacuees.
I should be able to post something later today...if not, I have phone contact with pfb.
have a good Sunday all
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| | | 141 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Sun, Sep 25, 2005, 09:01
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I didn't recieve any queue Taxman. I'll keep checking but nothing as of now.
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| | | 142 | Little M
ID: 46881516
Sun, Sep 25, 2005, 11:12
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Hey Dr. Doom,
The draft site says that the draft is paused for the weekend. Is this intentional?
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| | | 143 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Sun, Sep 25, 2005, 11:30
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No it is not, I have asked KKB for some help to get rid of that, I was trying to change the clock and messed up. When three hours are up, I will move the draft along.
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| | | 144 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Sun, Sep 25, 2005, 13:00
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Place holder selected for Curby, Little M you are up. Curby let me know who you want, any time, I will make the pick for you.
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| | | 145 | Taxman
ID: 488312511
Sun, Sep 25, 2005, 13:34
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Dr Doom...I send a que through kafenatid.net queue program. As Commish you should have gotten a copy. I will try to e-mail a copy to you. Only have this computer for a sec.
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| | | 146 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Sun, Sep 25, 2005, 17:11
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JakerBelly, I picked a place holder for you as well. Let me know who you want when you get chance.
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| | | 147 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Sun, Sep 25, 2005, 20:21
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Twarpy timed out, on to Dan.
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| | | 149 | ¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
ID: 6849266
Mon, Sep 26, 2005, 08:49
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My team was on the "draft clock" for about two hours. What's up with the leapfrogging (picks 10.12 and 10.13)? Not that I wanted either of those players, but....
P.S.: I'm leaving around 9:00 Eastern and probably will be away from a computer until early this evening.
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| | | 150 | philflyboy
ID: 51752415
Mon, Sep 26, 2005, 09:07
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not sure what happened there. I do know that the clock was going to move to 3 hours.
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| | | 151 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Mon, Sep 26, 2005, 09:11
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I was surprised to see that as well. I will email KKB to see if he has any idea.
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| | | 152 | ¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
ID: 6849266
Mon, Sep 26, 2005, 09:12
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Queue sent to Doom for round 11 only.
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| | | 153 | jakerbelly
ID: 518271922
Mon, Sep 26, 2005, 09:36
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Doom, Luc Robitaille LW LA please
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| | | 154 | Taxman
ID: 1211741
Mon, Sep 26, 2005, 10:19
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I am back and will make my picks for the time being.
Thanks for help over w/e with posting my queues DD and pfb.
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| | | 155 | Dr. Doom
ID: 7113048
Mon, Sep 26, 2005, 10:36
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Done, thanks JakerBelly
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| | | 156 | Dr. Doom
ID: 7113048
Mon, Sep 26, 2005, 10:50
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I have not gotten a queue from Ms. Moose, I am sending a message to KKB to see if he has any clue about what is going on.
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| | | 157 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Mon, Sep 26, 2005, 10:52
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good Dr Doom...post 152...her Mooseness sent you a round 11 queue
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| | | 158 | Dr. Doom
ID: 7113048
Mon, Sep 26, 2005, 11:15
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Taxman,
I know that, and that is why I posted that I have not received a queue. post #156.
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| | | 159 | Dr. Doom
ID: 7113048
Mon, Sep 26, 2005, 11:46
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Tested the system, sent myself a queue, sent a fake queue to pfb, got a test from KKB, these all seemed to work. I am at a loss to know where Moose's queue is or went.
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| | | 160 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Mon, Sep 26, 2005, 16:38
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Double D...Ha..took me 10 minutes to type my # 157...your # 156 wasn't there when I started. Your faolure to receive queue consistent with my late Sat night queue I sent to pfb (and you by default as commissioner) that you did not receive (I later e-mailed to you Sunday morning)
Problem must have been a quirk in the queue copy to Commissioner setting. btw, I received your test queue this morning.
Thanks for cutting our daily delay from 8 to 6 hours. Do I hear a motion for 4 (2 hour clock)?
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| | | 161 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Mon, Sep 26, 2005, 16:43
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Well, you could pick now, Twarpy is done.
I sent myself a queue as commish and it seemed to work, I hate bugs (or features).
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| | | 162 | Little M
ID: 46881516
Mon, Sep 26, 2005, 17:38
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Anyone around for a queue?
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| | | 163 | philflyboy
ID: 127332712
Mon, Sep 26, 2005, 17:43
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I will be here most of the night
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| | | 164 | Little M
ID: 46881516
Mon, Sep 26, 2005, 18:01
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Queue sent.
Thanks, PFB.
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| | | 165 | philflyboy
ID: 51752415
Mon, Sep 26, 2005, 22:33
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sorry had to go to a volleyball match pick is made for Little M
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| | | 166 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Mon, Sep 26, 2005, 22:53
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Why didn't a copy of the queue go to Dr. Doom?
Or was the queue sent through private e-mail rather than through the kafenatid.net queue system??
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| | | 167 | philflyboy
ID: 127332712
Mon, Sep 26, 2005, 22:53
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private email
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| | | 168 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Mon, Sep 26, 2005, 23:38
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I C
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| | | 169 | Little M
ID: 46881516
Tue, Sep 27, 2005, 10:36
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The queue was sent to PFB through the Kafenatid Queue Management system. A copy was not sent to Dr. Doom because he did not say that he was available for queues. I try not to send queues to people unless they have said that they want to receive them.
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| | | 170 | Dr. Doom
ID: 430271612
Tue, Sep 27, 2005, 10:43
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I will take a queue at most any time. If anyone wants to send, I should be available, although it is possibly more difficult for those at my end of the draft.
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| | | 171 | philflyboy
ID: 51752415
Tue, Sep 27, 2005, 11:23
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I am also normally around but I am at the same end of the draft as DD
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| | | 172 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Tue, Sep 27, 2005, 12:14
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I am dummmmmb. I mistakenly thought all queues automatically are sent to the commissioner, but now see that you have to select the commissioner as a recipient. Duuh.
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| | | 173 | Little M
ID: 46881516
Tue, Sep 27, 2005, 12:49
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Re post 125.
I can't see my team in Yahoo. All it shows is empty slots.
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| | | 174 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Tue, Sep 27, 2005, 13:08
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You can only see the ones I have updated on the "draft results" page. I think I am through round 8 to this point.
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| | | 175 | philflyboy
ID: 51752415
Tue, Sep 27, 2005, 14:40
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Right about now that 2 hour clock would sure come in handy
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| | | 176 | philflyboy
ID: 51752415
Tue, Sep 27, 2005, 15:25
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At this rate we will not be done by the weekend having to wait 6 hours each round for Dan and Twarpy. Can we move the clock to 2 hours so that we can move things along faster? I know atleast 2 or 3 of us will be gone for the weekend.
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| | | 177 | Dr. Doom
ID: 7113048
Tue, Sep 27, 2005, 15:43
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| Picks Made | Time Per Pick | Picks Left | Projected Finish | | 163 | 1:54:02 | 61 | 10/02/05 11:32:36 am |
Since we are in round 12, with four rounds remainings, that adds up to 8 additional hours of waiting for these two, probably is not going to save us 2 days.
I will change the clock at the start of the next round with my first pick. That is your advance notice.
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| | | 178 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Tue, Sep 27, 2005, 15:45
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Dr Doom....2 hrs pretty please. We are still loosing minimum of 6 hours draft time each round with an occassional 3rd or 4th manager disappearing.
pfb...I will be around this week end and will be happy to provide phone support if needed. Actually that goes out to anyone in need of help this week end...phone support or leaveing me your queues.
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| | | 179 | ¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
ID: 418382711
Tue, Sep 27, 2005, 16:46
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Doom, Dan's team will time out while I'm commuting. I'll send you a very short queue (and hope it arrives) for round 12.
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| | | 180 | philflyboy
ID: 127332712
Tue, Sep 27, 2005, 16:52
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I have Butchie and My picks so be ready to move around the corner
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| | | 181 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Tue, Sep 27, 2005, 17:59
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I have a Moose queue.
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| | | 182 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Tue, Sep 27, 2005, 21:46
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Double D...you continue to post while I am typing.
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| | | 183 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Tue, Sep 27, 2005, 22:07
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I have a queue for ben_979, so it's your turn in just over an hour Taxman.
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| | | 184 | jakerbelly
ID: 518271922
Tue, Sep 27, 2005, 22:16
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I'll be around to pick as well
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| | | 185 | Little M
ID: 46881516
Wed, Sep 28, 2005, 17:33
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I see Radek Bonk being drafted by both Twarpy (10.09) and Philflyboy (13.02). Am I missing something? I didn't think that the system would allow this. Maybe someone ran a stop sign.
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| | | 186 | philflyboy
ID: 51752415
Wed, Sep 28, 2005, 18:19
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hmmmmm that must have been a makeup pick by twarpy I didn't see he was gone. I did not go through a stop sign either it never popped up. I will have to make another pick. grrrr I really liked that pick too ;(
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| | | 187 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Wed, Sep 28, 2005, 18:22
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It's more likely my fault when making up that pick. Perhaps there are no stop signs in the fix up a previous pick process. I will fix Twarpy's pick.
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| | | 188 | ¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
ID: 48852717
Wed, Sep 28, 2005, 20:03
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Doom: Pick 14.08 (Ovechkin) is not yet in the player pool. Consider this a protest.
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| | | 189 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Wed, Sep 28, 2005, 20:08
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Neither is Jeff Carter, or Tverdosky or Vanek or Bochenski. Why didn't we protest any of these.
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| | | 190 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Wed, Sep 28, 2005, 20:08
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Since we didn't why should this person has concluded that Ovechkin was out of bounds.
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| | | 191 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Wed, Sep 28, 2005, 22:52
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Invitations sent to somw managers in this league (let me know asap if you didn't get one and you are interested) for a yahoo 10 team h2h live draft to be held tomorrow @ 6:30 PM EST that is a shallow league (only 17 position players and a 5 man bench for 220 draft picks) leaving lots of weekly waiver action for injuries or if you want to play the "how many games a week can i get in" strategy
...hope some of you join.
Interesting that with shorter clock in ATHS league we are still experiencing @ 8 hrs/day of clock timed out missed picks. Wonder if there is a REAL solution to this problem. Never seen anything like it.
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| | | 192 | jakerbelly
ID: 518271922
Wed, Sep 28, 2005, 23:50
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wasnt aware of those other guys but I have to side with Moose on this. The only reason I didnt take Ovechkin rounds ago is because he wasnt in Yahoo. Usually those guys go via the waiver wire order.
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| | | 193 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 00:19
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So what should I do, invalidate the previous 6 rounds since a non-Yahoo player has been picked, and we can go through this again.
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| | | 194 | ¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
ID: 48852717
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 07:50
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It's rather frightening to learn that jaker and I were of the same thinking (i.e., monitoring Yahoo! for Ovechkin's name to appear). My opinion, for what it's worth: Drafting a player not currently in the Yahoo! pool constitutes an invalid pick; it circumvents one of the rules: the waiver wire process. Award make-up selections when the manager's next turn in the draft occurs, but not before.
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| | | 195 | philflyboy
ID: 51752415
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 08:51
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I knew early on that we would be able to pick anyone. No problem here with leaving them on the teams that drafted them.
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| | | 196 | Little M
ID: 46881516
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 10:15
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I had the same understanding as PFB, that everyone was available to be picked. That is how it worked two years ago, when Hasek wasn't on the Yahoo list. Otherwise, it can give the team with the first waiver selection a huge advantage.
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| | | 197 | jakerbelly
ID: 568552213
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 11:00
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lil M, That's why the waiver wire order is set the way it is. It gives the team that drafted last first choice to claim waivered players. When they use it they go to the back of the line. PB, could you share exactly how you "knew". It wasn't communicated to me. Whatever the group decides is fine, IMHO I think using the waiver wire aspect adds another element to the draft.
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| | | 198 | uther 44 flot
ID: 981299
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 11:02
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I have to believe that something like this would have to be set before the draft began. If all do not understand the basic rules of a coordinated effort such as this, it should then revert back to what is the norm for any draft in an online league. Otherwise, what would be the reasoning behind the waiverwire? That would be as Moose has explained. I fear however that there may be no way to be completely "just" in any decision made now to correct this.
As for the luck of the waiverwire positioning, it's part of any league you get into that does not have a previous year standings to base a draft on - you get lucky, and it usually is the reverse order of the draft. The waiverwire first position was always a way to off-set the poor luck of having the last pick in the draft. :)
IMHO (Always have to include the small print)
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| | | 199 | uther 44 flot
ID: 981299
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 11:06
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by the way -
Hello Jaker my buddy ole pal, it appears that you are making life miserable in the baseball league. Bad offensive team early for me which sunk me from almost week one, but I had thought I recovered enough to look semi-respectful. You humble me :)
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| | | 200 | philflyboy
ID: 51752415
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 11:09
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ATHS has exsisted for a few years now and we use the same ground rules for every draft. It never even occurred to me that we would NOT be able to draft anyone we wanted because we have ALWAYS been able to do so. Now I understand that the new people to our group probably did not know that but all the people who have been with us should have known that.
This far into the draft I am not sure there is anything that can be done to solve this problem other than go on. Sorry to all those who missed out but we have been drafting since round 8 with players being taken who are not listed in yahoo. that pick would have been made last week.
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| | | 201 | jakerbelly
ID: 568552213
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 11:10
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As usual Flot you said it better than I could :) I guess this is what happens I guess when draftworld's collide!
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| | | 202 | ¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
ID: 4186297
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 11:55
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Memory refresher:
Brian, if I recall correctly, ATHS began as an autopick league with quite a few of your Philly-area chums. The second year, we went to an offline draft; I believe KKB was in that group and the main gripe was that we had no limit on player acquisitions (one team made nearly as many roster changes as the rest of the league combined). In neither instance did we draft players who were not already in the Yahoo! pool.
For the 2003-2004 season, we drafted here, using Doom's nifty little tool. The issue of selecting athletes "off the board" arose with such players as Pitkanen and Fleury, the Pens' goalie, and it was argued at length. This deviation from Yahoo! rules is unfair to teams at the end of the draft order, who should be entitled "first dibs" on players as they are added to the game, and, unless agreed upon in advance of the draft, should not be allowed to occur.
Doom, if you permit the draft to stand as it is, at the very least you should drop the teams who "jumped the wire" to the very bottom of the waiver order.
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| | | 203 | philflyboy
ID: 127332712
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 12:31
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Mario as always you are correct and I stand corrected. I was viewing some of the old ATHS threads and I did find an instance where we talked about players not in the yahoo database and we did not allow people to take them. I know i have been in many leagues were we were able to draft anyone and I must have confused those leagues with this one.
I still think restarting the draft or making someone lose a player they picked rounds ago is a tough thing to do at this point, I do however, like your idea of moving them down the WW priority list.
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| | | 204 | uther 44 flot
ID: 981299
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 12:35
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As a new person to this draft, not to some of you I have matched sports fantasy teams with in the past, I would have to defer to those "who know" about past practices.
The core group will decide the fate of this I'm sure. Enjoy, maybe the offending players will simply break a leg :)
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| | | 205 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 12:59
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I can see arguments for both sides of this discussion. From a draft perspective, no one is getting an unfair draft. Picking 1st and 28th is about as bad as it gets, at least that is my view.
Going back in my memory to the Hasek year, although it didn't exactly pan out as I recall, Hasek had a less than stellar year, a pick like that, if it works swings the balance way the other way. The last pick has one position on his roster, that could be a solid lock on his roster and can draft to fill other positions with quality players, so you could in essense get 3 first round picks.
As for those the do get picked, Pitkanen, Fleury, Ruutu, I don't know that any of them stayed on a roster for the season.
Also, I am mildy annoyed that Yahoo has only Crosby entered into the list of available players. When I gathered my list of Yahoo players on the day the draft started, Crosby was not there. When I made my second and third pick, he was not there, before I get my next pick, he shows up and Moose nabs him. Is that any more "fair".
Pavel Datsyuk, threatens to play in Russia and gets bypassed for almost 4 rounds. An hour after he's rumoured to sign. He's picked. Is that fair or fortunate.
There is absolutely no chance of pleasing everyone in these drafts. If we want to be limited as to how we draft, lets do it online. If we want to do whatever we want, the slow (very slow) offline is seems to be an option for that.
This is in large part my fault. I should have remembered the trials we endured in the last one and didn't, apologies to all.
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| | | 206 | jakerbelly
ID: 568552213
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 15:59
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We are all in agreement then, its Doom's fault :)
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| | | 207 | philflyboy
ID: 127332712
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 16:04
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Doom's fault? I must not have been ready all this correctly here all along I thought it was Taxman's fault!!
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| | | 208 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 17:00
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I have queues for Uther and Rogue.
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| | | 209 | isles72
ID: 395412514
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 17:39
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I just assumed since a good handful of the gurus in this league are also in the other slow live draft -which just ended ......we were going by the same drafting rules regarding players not yet listed with yahoo .
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| | | 210 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 19:30
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alas, I have been found out....but the Cowboy QB has a sturdier groin than the iggle QB.
and my silence on the sloppy/selective yahoo player listings is required by my 8th round selection of Carter....however...I do not remember getting the Stop Sign on that pick....or was that a pick made on my behalf (via queue) whilst I was traveling about ducking various hurricanes.
(OT and belongs in the political threads) Which reminds me of the funniest political satire of the week from (granted many do not see/understand his humor)Bill Mayer proffered: "President Bush, you are a category 5 president".
and speaking of queue...in this draft it has been used like queue referred to that gentleman from the James Bond movies giving 007 all his newest explosive toys.
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| | | 211 | Little M
ID: 46881516
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 19:50
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DD, if you have a queue for U44 he is up.
I also hope that you don't mind me sending you a queue, since you seem to have them for U44 and R9.
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| | | 212 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 20:01
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No problem, I could be working all night.
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| | | 213 | Little M
ID: 46881516
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 20:03
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Queue sent to DD and PFB.
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| | | 214 | philflyboy
ID: 127332712
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 20:13
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lazers picking now curby will be up
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| | | 215 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 20:13
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I have not received a Little M queue, pfb did you get it.
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| | | 216 | philflyboy
ID: 127332712
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 20:15
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yep I got it
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| | | 217 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Thu, Sep 29, 2005, 21:34
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I'm here and will draft as soon as Jakerbelly pulls the trigger or his clock runhs
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| | | 218 | uther 44 flot
ID: 981299
Fri, Sep 30, 2005, 14:21
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Thanks Doom!
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| | | 219 | Dr. Doom
ID: 7113048
Fri, Sep 30, 2005, 14:35
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It's all done, I have not finished my last pick, I would like to encourage anyone who missed picks to do it, so I can end it and finish plugging them into Yahoo.
If you missed either enter them yourself or let me know who you want.
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| | | 220 | jakerbelly
ID: 568552213
Fri, Sep 30, 2005, 14:49
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just wondering how do you add players to rosters in yahoo who aren't yet on yahoo's list of players?
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| | | 221 | Taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Sat, Oct 01, 2005, 20:27
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jb...
from yahoo fantasy hockey home page
"• Most rookies will be unavailable until they have played in at least one professional game. Rookies currently available appear via special agreement."
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| | | 222 | isles72
ID: 395412514
Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 05:28
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when are you adding the players to yahoo ?
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| | | 223 | philflyboy
ID: 127332712
Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 06:40
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Doom when will you be activating the league so that we can set our lineup for tomorrow night?
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| | | 224 | Dr. Doom
ID: 387231512
Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 10:16
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Okay, I finished the draft, there are still some outstanding draft issues. I had contemplated starting our season on the second week, so I could get the contentious picks on their respective teams, also making the first week a full week, rather than a 4 day week.
That's not going to happen so everyone needs to be on their best behavior in the coming waiver draft. The following are out of bounds except for their appointed owners.
Alexander Ovechkin
Jeff Carter
Brandon Bochenski
Vojtech Polak
Thomas Vanek
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| | | 225 | ¤ Mario LeMoose ¤
ID: 17934521
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 23:34
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Doom, what's to become of jaker's draft pick for Vojtech Polak? The player was sent down to Iowa of the AHL.
Not to overwork the issue (#205) ... but Crosby was in the Yahoo! pool before our draft began. I downloaded a player list on 9/4 and his name was there (O-Rank of 458). Yahoo! shows him as being added to the game on 8/18.
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| | | 226 | Dr. Doom
ID: 430271612
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 23:44
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Okay, I have to believe that, I know I downloaded a list from Yahoo the day it started and I did not have Crosby in that list.
Whatever, it's over and done with. Jaker will replace him, there are no do-overs.
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| | | 227 | Flot
ID: 499511811
Tue, Oct 18, 2005, 13:51
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Boom
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