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| Posted by: smallwhirled
- [992338] Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 16:54
Jeez it's been a long time since we've had some TSN hockey....but I'm ready and loaded my team into the ESDNHL for the best competition out there.
I think I'm going with an on time start. I haven't really looked at anything yet, but for some reason I want to start a team on time with Mario.
Going with late teams is never a real bad idea, and it saves some time on draft preparation, but I personally like the idea of going on time this year.
Speaking of Mario, I just don't see how he is not going to be huge coming right out of the gate. More open ice, or even better for him in this stage of his career, more PP time. If Mario is clicking out his usual over 2 points/game, he is going to be a must have.
I haven't really looked into much in terms of players themselves, but I'm likely going to go with the cheap goalies. I'm going to have to sacrifice somewhere to get Mario. Mario could easily start this year as he did the first 2 months of the 2002-2003 season, when he was a must have. |
| | | 1 | Little M
ID: 46881516
Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 17:26
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I wasn't planning to look at this until tomorrow, but Smallwhirled's comments on Mario made me curious, so I had to look at him. At the beginning of the season, I see him strictly as a short term hold. He plays 4 games in the first 6 days, but then plays only 2 games in the next 9 days. I am unsure whether he will put up the points in his first 4 games to warrant trading out of hime in the first week, since I would like to bank some trades. Then again, it looks like everyone's schedule slows down in the second week on the season, so maybe he won't lose that much in salary, since there is no obvious trade. I'm already confused and the season hasn't even started yet. Thanks, Smallwhirld.
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| | | 2 | smallwhirled
ID: 992338
Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 17:59
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Glad I could confuse you more. The opening 4 in 6 is why I want to start with him, and then take it from there...but most likely trade him. A couple of years ago, Mario was a not only great, but a great source for making RV in and out for each strong/weak schedule.
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| | | 3 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 18:21
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I'm using a new strategy (well, new for me) and am going to try to utilize my D slots early in the season... I think the abundance of power plays is going to give defencemen all sorts of increased value (think many, many Zidlickys)...
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| | | 4 | TT
ID: 52715301
Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 18:58
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I am thinking along the same lines of The Dienasty. I think you probably have all noticed forwards are freakin cheap this year. Remember that one year when Mario starts at 11mil and ppl still bought him? This year the highest price player is 9.5 mil. I already have my 3 defensemen which I would have on my roster if I had unlimited money. Then if one of the cheap defensemen emerge (which usually happens), I can easily trade into him only using 1 trade. The rest of my roster slots are primarily to make money. So I actually have a lot of money in the bank then I normally would. Well I hope it works.
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| | | 5 | smallwhirled
ID: 992338
Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 20:30
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You can tell I'm pumped because I'm sitting here trying to re-create the old schedule format that KKB used to make (like Guru's sortibles) with the numbers and dots on the far right of th old pages....and I'm doing it by hand on paper with different colored pens and going to use a sheet of paper to cover the old parts of the schedule that pass as we move along in the season. I just like those damn numbers and dots.
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| | | 6 | smallwhirled
ID: 992338
Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 20:36
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I'm thinking of starting 2 days late now, fwiw.
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| | | 7 | TT
ID: 52715301
Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 21:02
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what exactly does fwiw mean anyways?
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| | | 8 | smallwhirled
ID: 992338
Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 21:07
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for what it's worth.
Just kinda throwing around a lot of options, but I do want to start my season with Penguins. So I need to at least start by day 3 if I don't go on time.
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| | | 9 | The Beezer
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ID: 191202817
Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 21:54
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I'm taking an entirely different track, as I plan on shelling about 25% of my salary on two good goalies with great schedules and about 10% on cheap D that I think will be above-average. The rest I've got spend on 5 forwards that are mid to upper-level prices with good long-term schedules and 1 center and 1 wing that are cheaper that will likely be moved for $$$ once the season starts.
My thought is to be able to save some trades in month 1 while I get a handle on where the value is and hopefully not lose a lot of ground in the process on either the point or money fronts. We'll see how it goes.
I'm just freaking pumped for the season to start. Wednesday hurry up and get here already.
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| | | 10 | C.SuperFreak
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ID: 53771616
Mon, Oct 03, 2005, 23:25
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I'm starting on time in the esdnhl. I'll do the day late and week late with my other teams.
I'm looking at schedules at the moment and there are a couple of teams with strong 2 week schedules that will offset the Pittsburgh dump.
I'll try a Pitnix strategy and i'll take it from there.
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| | | 11 | C.SuperFreak
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Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 02:05
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IMHO, the acquistion of Mario for 4 games is high risk/low reward. They play NJ right out of the gate-Tough.
Following it up one day later with b2b against Carolina (an away game for Pit) and then at home to Boston. Questions to consider
Will Mario play b2b games?
If not will he sit in Carolina and play the home opener in Pittsburgh?
What if there is minimal trade activity for him for the upcoming series then his profit will not significantly increase.
After his 4th game you'll be inclined to dump him for another center. Who and where do you go for your center after the Buffalo game? The options are limited.
Now Zigmund Palffy would be interesting. You can flip him outright into Nagy or Doan.
Also keep in mind that I'm only writing this because my brain can't figure out how to get him on my roster and make it work.
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| | | 12 | isles72
ID: 395412514
Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 05:25
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bochenski @ 3 mil ish ....
first train leaving station
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| | | 13 | caribou
ID: 138512912
Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 07:17
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If you verify the sced for ottawa (bochenski), you will notice that the train will be short lived.
From october 5 to october 19, they only play 5 games including 1 back 2 back, when other teams play 8 games on this same period.
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| | | 14 | Die_Habs
ID: 26211512
Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 07:58
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I still have no clue what to do this year, I am thinking all 3 of my teams will be day lates however.
I haven't had the time to put into it yet, I have just drafted potentials into a word document based on schedules. I play primarily on schedules with 1 risk player for differential. Again, I think I will focus on revenue this year and stocking up trades. Looking forward to playing again. I really should join the ESDNHL but am kind of nervous I won't win any divisions this this to get my money back. lol!
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| | | 15 | Newfie Gold
ID: 5076267
Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 08:13
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Don't you think it's possible for Bochenski (and maybe even Spezza and Heatly) to push through a weak schedule if they are producing points at a high rate? If they come anywhere close to what they looked like in preseason, I think they are all underpriced. Therefore, by showing good value for money, I think they will still show good price gains while playing a few less games. However, for this to happen, they will have to play well. But by all indications, that line should be clicking right away.
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| | | 16 | caribou
ID: 138512912
Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 08:22
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Die habs, you should join the ESDNHL once again !!!
Newfie gold....my bet would be to pick up spezza, he is the keeper among the line
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| | | 17 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 08:23
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Not doubt that line should produce, and in fact, under any other circumstance the entire line at those prices would be "must haves"... But beginning October 11th the Senators begin a 1-in-9 stretch that you would have be to insane to sit through... There's an opportunity there to pick up as many as 3 games (and lots of RV) over a Sens player before going back.
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| | | 18 | Ira
ID: 568281417
Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 12:10
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What does everyone think of Ovechkin?
6 games in 9 days
7 games in 12 days
4.25 mil?
And whose everyone's choice for a cheap centerman? I'm not all that confident in Horcoff afterall.
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| | | 19 | Newfie Gold
ID: 5076267
Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 12:43
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I was looking at Ovechkin based on his schedule, and a couple of preseason games. But the more I look at his linemates in Wash, the less I think he'll be able to produce night after night.
As for a center, I think Nylander has a lot of potential. The Rangers have a good schedule to start, and it looks like he's centering Jagr's line. But I'm not 100% sure on that.
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| | | 20 | Ira
ID: 568281417
Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 13:35
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good call on Nylander. Thanks
Ya I checked out the Rangers section at HFBoards.com and it looks like he's slated in between Jagr and Rucinsky/Straka..
I think I'll take a chance and stick with Ovechkin..
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| | | 21 | smallwhirled
ID: 992338
Tue, Oct 04, 2005, 18:59
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Sweet I've picked my team that was a long process.
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| | | 22 | Newfie Gold
ID: 5076267
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 08:03
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What are everyone's thoughts on Ozolinsh? I know he has potential and is at a good price, but I'm still not sold on him. I think he will be heavily owned to start the season, and he also didn't do great in preseason. I think I'm going to hold off, but I also don't want to have to burn an early trade if he gets some early points and his price starts going up quickly.
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| | | 23 | caribou
ID: 5595413
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 08:44
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Afew passes in each game isn't too bad for Ozo...he should be widely owned !
What do you think as a pick for wing :
Daniel Sedin (van) or Malone (pit)
My last choice to be made on my team !
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| | | 24 | smallwhirled
ID: 992338
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 08:54
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Penguins have a 2 in 9 after 6 days. Take Sedin.
Anyone going with Pens or Sens will need to trade them pretty soon.
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| | | 25 | caribou
ID: 5595413
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 08:54
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thanks !
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| | | 26 | isles72
ID: 395412514
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 09:02
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good point caribou regarding bochenski - I made that commnet w-out regard to a long term sked - nonetheless , if he produces like he has in preseason he'll still be a ''good buy'' considering his paltry price tag
phoenix - 8 games in 14 days - mike comrie -2.25 mil -worth a gamble
john graham - 7 games in 14 days - I'm hearing he has TB starters job hands down - I believe he's @ 3.25 mil
I'm personally taking a chance with Ovechkin @ 4.25 - caps play 8 in 14 -worth the risk
Ryan Malone @ 3.76 -pens youngster is centering one of the offensive lines - pens sked isnt as sweet as other teams 6 over 14 days
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| | | 27 | smallwhirled
ID: 992338
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 09:08
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Here is my one and only Pens and Sens rant that I will make. Those taking especially Malone or Bondra will soon realize that they are going to have "enough" ownership that they will be sold off HARD in about a week. How do you know for sure that they are going to come out strong enough to where using this early trade made it worth the draft pick.
If you like them enough, fine, but keep trades in advance. Personally, I don't like the idea of going with mid priced players from those teams for 1 week, it just doesn't make a lot of sense.
On the other hand, going with the real studs who you know are going to get points is not as bad of an idea. Sure a trades will need to be ready, but the odds are that they will do pretty well.
You can throw Spezza in either column I listed up above, but I guarantee you that Spezza will see HUGE price decreases as soon as the 1 in 9 starts. There is no doubting that, so be careful with him.
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| | | 28 | isles72
ID: 395412514
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 09:24
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I'm looking to hold bochenski fairly long term - I think he's gonna be a mainstay on spezza's line as they played the entire AHL season together during the lockout .
so , he might take a price hit in week 2 , I'm confident he will bounce back , and then some in the following days
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| | | 29 | smallwhirled
ID: 992338
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 09:28
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But why? Can't you just buy him when the Sens sked gets decent again? If you think he is so good, keep him on your radar, and then pick him up after the 1 in 9. Do you know how bad a 1 in 9 is?
You need to consistantly have a full roster of people WITH good schedules. At least when it comes to the fowards.
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| | | 30 | Tuques
ID: 57854126
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 09:44
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I have Spezza on my team since day 1 of drafting, I'm planning to play him for the first week then I'm trading him for the best money train at center and I'll jump back on him when the scked picks up...
I have also a wing that might need to go after the first week but my plan is the same go from this player to a wing money train.... This way I wont kick myself in the but for trading too fast or not jumping on the money train like I did 2 years ago, I remember going without any trade after 3 days of action, I've never been able to recover....
At least this year, I have only 2 guys that I have to sell after the first week all the other can be keeped for at least 2.5 weeks if no injury....
Lets the season begin....
Tuques
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| | | 31 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 49945210
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 09:55
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I see no problem with holding at least 1 pen or sen. Trades have to be made sooner or later. If you can hold on to 5 trades and predict your money trains-good for you. But having to use 2 or 3 is still not as bad as blowing through you whole allotment.
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| | | 32 | Newfie Gold
ID: 5076267
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 10:15
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I think for Bochenski and Spezza to be money trains for this week, they will need to have a big game tonight. They have 2 days off after tonight's game. So that leaves a short 3 (games) in 4 (days) period before you have to dump them. I don't know if it is worth the trades if they don't show large money gains for this week. I think they will produce points, but there are other players out there that will produce points that have better schedules.
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| | | 33 | Die_Habs
ID: 26211512
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 12:39
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Newfie Gold - remember, at least if my memory serves me right the money gainers will only show for those players that have been bought and sold after the first roster freeze.
If EVERYONE has spezza and bochenski, malone, etc then none of these players will be money gainers, but money losers if you hold on to them. Sure they will gain it back after the 1-9 but I am speculating you will lose clost a 500k easy if you hold. The players that are in majority of rosters will see large loses come poor schedules or performance. I myself and going day late and will not pick up an ottawa or pengiun player until the next schedule opening.
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| | | 34 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 49945210
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 12:55
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The majority of teams look at the shor-term (and we all know that they do). They are going to blow through the trades before the refresh.
What about forgoing day late strat and waiting until the Pit/Sen schedule changes. If everyone has Sens and Pens wouldn't the best strategy be a 5-6 day late team?
You'll be able to capitalize on the first mass sell offs.
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| | | 35 | TT
ID: 52715301
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 13:02
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But SuperFreak, doing that you will have players playing 1 in 7 or 1 in 8, depending when u pick them up. You have already gone 5 or 6 days without any points, are u willing to go another 6 or 7 days without points from those roster spots?
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| | | 36 | TT
ID: 52715301
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 13:04
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ps: I've thought about the exact same thing. Dunno if I can handle so many days without points though. You really have to be a brave man to pull it off.
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| | | 37 | Newfie Gold
ID: 5076267
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 13:13
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I think what C.S meant was that wait until those with Pen/Sens on thier teams start selling them... then look at what players they plan on buying based on best bargains at that time. You could make some serious $ doing that, but will give up a week of points.
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| | | 38 | Ira
ID: 568281417
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 13:15
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Post 22:
I have Ozolinsh. The way I see it, he's a #2 defenceman who will get PP time with Niedermayer. For under 1.5 mil.
Anyways, about this whole Pit-Ott trade dilemma, I'm sure as hell takin the risk.
Ya, I've got 4 Pitt & Ottawa forwards. Ya, I'll probably end up trading 3 of em. So? I get 5 next Wednesday. That's 7 banked next week.
People are banking trades for later on in the season, right? Well, what difference does it make if its at the start of the season? The points are still there.
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| | | 39 | ZEUS
ID: 5888196
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 13:58
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Anyone confirm when the first roster freeze is?
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| | | 40 | smallwhirled
ID: 992338
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 14:27
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7 banked next week? You better hit your draft flawlessly if you expect to have that many trades after you've already said that you are definitely giving up 3.
When it comes to the 6 day late, or week late strategy, you will be reaping the rewards of who people buy from Sens and Pens without using trades. The key is to figure that out, and then go with long term skeds starting from the day you start. You'll have a ton of banked trades and then you can get aggressive. Keep in mind, this strategy gives up ~2000 TSNP right off the bat. From there it is how fast you can gain a monsterous RV and try to catch up. I tried it before and finished 9th.
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| | | 41 | C.SuperFreak
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Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 14:50
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Post 37 Newfie Gold is correct with the interpretation and obvious short coming of the strat.
Ira, if you haven't done any advanced planning, you will struggle to find players with a similar tsn $ value, point value, and a good schedule when it comes time to trade those 3 Pens&Sens.
Trade all 4. Keeping 1 will guarantee that this roster spot will be a money loser.
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| | | 42 | Horne_Dawg
ID: 1011111620
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 15:05
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I got Spezza at center, Bochenski at winger, and Gonchar at Defense. I figur if someone goes off I'll trades these guys so fast. They're all one week holds but I got only one at each postion. so If there is a cheaip winger thats looks like a price mover I dump Bochenski, and the same goes for Spezza, if a center goes off, and if a D-man goes off, I'll get rid of Goncher. Regardess all there will be off my team as soons as they get the 4th game in. That will leave me 2 trades till next wensday.
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| | | 43 | Little M
ID: 46881516
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 16:01
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Ira, while Ozolinsh is a good player for his price, with Anaheim only playing five games in the first two weeks, I think that there are defensemen out there that will gain more points and more money over that period. I would wait until his schedule improves before picking up Ozolinsh.
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| | | 44 | qwert
ID: 524112817
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 16:35
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where's a good place for hockey schedule?
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| | | 45 | Al Bears
ID: 420447
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 16:45
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Hi every body
Hockey Schedule go to kafenatid.net
For Ozolinsh I keep it, I don't want to use trades on defensman early in the season... unless there is a real money train.
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| | | 46 | smallwhirled
ID: 992338
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 17:01
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What do you guys think of Jaime Heward, D, Was? I guess he is going to be on the power play....
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| | | 47 | Horne_Dawg
ID: 1011111620
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 17:49
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i am timmed from taking a wash player right now, because of the +/- factor. Maybe I shouldnt be, but I am.
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| | | 48 | smallwhirled
ID: 992338
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 17:53
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Same problem I have, how many points can he get to offset the negative +/-. D is such a freaking crapshoot anyways. Just finding any D man that is going to be decent or going to get PP time is a chore.
I just don't want to be stuck with Ozolinsh.
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| | | 49 | Little M
ID: 46881516
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 18:01
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The whole thing seems to be a crapshoot this year. There isn't anyone that jumps out to me as being the first money train, other than possibly some cheap goalies.
I threw a team together for the EDSNHL league, just because I won't win that league anyway. My other teams will be day/week late teams, while I see how things play out.
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| | | 50 | C.SuperFreak
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Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 18:02
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I'm hoping that he has 3 good games to start which should offset the pain of the following week.
I could upgrade to Poti but I'd only have 300 in the bank and that's just as bad as having no trades.
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| | | 51 | Horne_Dawg
ID: 1011111620
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 18:02
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What about Ehrhoff in SJ
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| | | 52 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 18:03
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No ones likes Robidas?
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| | | 53 | smallwhirled
ID: 992338
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 18:08
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I have been changing all day long, I currently have Lilja, Khavanov, and Grebeshkov.
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| | | 54 | Horne_Dawg
ID: 1011111620
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 18:08
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yeah and there are lots of cheap goalies who could be the movers. I have only really played Base ball and the Price movers were easy to figgur out. IS RV as big as a factor in Hockey, because i think it might be a litte tuffer to get some coin.
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| | | 55 | Ira
ID: 568281417
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 18:41
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Well, I can't argue with ya smallwhirled cause I know how legit you are..
I traded Malone for Hemsky.
Now I've got Lemieux, Spezza & Bochenski. I just can't see how I can trade any of those guys..
And yes I've for Ric Jackman and Ozolinsh on defence, and yes, they're going to end up with some bad scheduling, I'm looking into it.
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| | | 56 | C.SuperFreak
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ID: 53771616
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 18:47
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I have approx 13 minutes until the freeze and I'm still waffling on a few selections.
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| | | 57 | Newfie Gold
ID: 23762820
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 18:53
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I think it's time to lock it in... I could keep on changing all night.
I'm definitely going to start a day late team, and possibly even a week late team. We'll see how well tonight goes.
The puck drops in 15 mins!
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| | | 58 | C.SuperFreak
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Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 18:57
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I'm all set. 2 teams going off on time and one will be a week late.
Thanks for the opinions and inputs.
My 'D': Leetch, Ozo, Khavanov.
I looked at the other names, robidas, ehrhoff, but concluded that there skeds don't get much better in the 3rd week and I don't want to burn too many trades on d so early.
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| | | 59 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 18:58
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Looks like ill be running Visnovsky, Slegr and Heward out of the gate, with Heward -> Ozo a likely move next week.
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| | | 60 | Ira
ID: 568281417
Wed, Oct 05, 2005, 18:59
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I went Ozo to Sydor..
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| | | 61 | smallwhirled
ID: 992338
Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 18:59
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Looking back at how I drafted, I'm a little upset. Going with Mario over Spezza or even Crosby was a mistake. It tied up a lot of money and I went with a super cheap Defense. 1 of which didn't even pan out and was sent directly to the minors. He didn't even play one game, yet he is still on my team because I'm playing conservative.
Cammelleri was a complete bust. I don't know what happened there, I had heard the day of the drafting that he was going to play with Frolov and JR, but then he was immedieately benched and in the doghouse.
At least I hit with my goalies of Legace and Grahame or I would be in serious trouble right now. I hope Grahame lasts, but there is a sell date in about 5 days or so, we'll see what happens there, and this is why I'm holding that 500K non playing defenseman.
Right now it just seems very hard. Almost every single team has a 3 or 4 day gap either right now or very soon. Options are very limited right now, and since I'm playing conservative, I'm not jumping on real quick cheap money gaining fowards.
I'm hoping to not fall too far behind in the RV race, I can't believe I'm actually playing this conservative, but I just don't have a feel for the game right now, it's been a while.
I did stay wit the course on stud wingers and went Palffy > Naslund. Mario > Demitra as well.
Not terrible happy, but it's very early. I'm trying to get a trade advantage.
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| | | 62 | Ira
ID: 568281417
Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 20:58
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I'm goin Mario>Horcoff
and then tomorrow I'm goin
Spezza>Morrison/Demitra
Morrison is gaining more money, and both he and Demitra have similar schedules, I'm undecided..
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| | | 63 | The Beezer
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ID: 191202817
Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 21:21
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I'm not sure how I feel about how it's going so far, except that I completely wasted a trade chasing money with Chouinard then going straight to Jason Williams. It'll be nice to have 8 trades and good skeds all around going into next week. I'm farther behind on points and $$$ than I would like but hoping to make up ground when teams start overextending themselves and they get caught flat-footed. It's not a sprint, it's a marathon. It's not a sprint, it's a marathon...
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| | | 64 | C.SuperFreak
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Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 21:55
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My esdnhl team has been a mix of boom and bust as well as big gains and losses. I wish my $$$ was stronger. Winners have been my goalies and centers, losers defence. My wingers are a mixed bag.
Conservative be damned. I'm going to rip into my trades. The NHL has blessed us with a quirky schedule that everyone seems to be reading fairly well allowing for profits to be made as well as gaining points. Once the schedules pick up I'll plan conservatively as it appears that some diversification picks will occur in the next few weeks making the trains a little bit harder to predict.
I've pulled the trigger on Palffy and moved into Nagy.
Moving Spezza to Horcroff
and moving Borchenski (bust money wise) into ???
- My 2nd team is doing very well. I believe I have made all the right moves (with the exception of Samsonov) giving me points and $$$. I've been able to bank 4 trades (blew 1-lehotonen injury) because I selected players with a good 2 week schedule. I'll be carrying 9 trades (barring injury) into the next trade period. The division is very weak. The top 3 teams have blown through their trades without significant point or money gains.
- My week late team has been finalized and i'm riding the money train on this one. I've gone for a cheap d (baumgartner, etc.) and a strong goalie combo (luongo, turco). I'm hoping that the wingers and centers will produce $$$.
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| | | 65 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Tue, Oct 11, 2005, 23:07
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I'm tempted to start a week-late team tomorrow. Go with a nice Luongo/Cloutier combo in nets, Naslund up front... I'll decide tomorrow.
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| | | 66 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Wed, Oct 12, 2005, 01:53
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Good god... I sold Jagr instead Palffy for Nagy by mistake... Just got home and saw that i somehow lost RV today, and found out why. This better not cost me big down the road... That's one extra trade down the tubes. :(
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| | | 67 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Wed, Oct 12, 2005, 01:58
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AAAAAARGH, i can't believe i something that stupid... They switched up the names at the last second on me, i swear...
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| | | 68 | Ira
ID: 35946129
Wed, Oct 12, 2005, 11:52
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Whats everyone doing with Bochenski?
I can either move him to Naslund, or else trade him for someone cheap, and tomorrow trade Grahame or Dunham for Luongo..
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| | | 69 | C.SuperFreak
Sustainer
ID: 53771616
Wed, Oct 12, 2005, 12:44
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Ira, are you playing ultimate this year? If so welcome aboard.
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| | | 70 | Ira
ID: 568281417
Wed, Oct 12, 2005, 13:03
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I am... I'm 'The Talent' in ESDNHL..
I don't understand why Vorobiev is makin +120K when he's got 3 games in 11 days!
Bochenski.....Leclerc? Torres? Vorobiev for the $?
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| | | 71 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Wed, Oct 12, 2005, 14:05
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I bought Vorobiev last night for a short term cheapie money maker so that I can go into Luongo. I'll gladly take my 120k and 37pts. He does have 4 gms in 8 days (including last night). So I'll just move him to the next cheapie in a week.
How's everyone's (days) late teams doing?
I've got about 700pts and $51.85mil, 3 trades.
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| | | 72 | Ira
ID: 568281417
Wed, Oct 12, 2005, 17:48
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I went Bochinski to Vorobiev for the dough..
Grahame>Luongo tomorrow..
1572 TSNP, $51.13 mil, 1 trade
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| | | 73 | Jay-P
ID: 376531612
Wed, Oct 12, 2005, 19:34
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51.75, 3 trades left... 659 TSN
I went Prospal > Svatos & Lopul > Savard
I probably should have gone into Morrison but I hope Savard makes more money, but we'll see...
Ovechkin is a machine!
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| | | 74 | Die_Habs
ID: 26211512
Fri, Oct 14, 2005, 08:11
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I would assume everyone is moving Ovechkin today - post your Ovechkin -> moves.
went to nagy on 2 teams.
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| | | 75 | Pancho
ID: 43152411
Fri, Oct 14, 2005, 12:32
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May go from Ovechkin to Selanne.
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| | | 76 | Ira
ID: 568281417
Fri, Oct 14, 2005, 13:49
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What does everyone think about Grahame>Roloson today?
Also, for Ovechkin, what does everyone think about Pierre-Marc Bouchard, 5 points in 4 games..
Minny has a great schedule..
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| | | 77 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 348481816
Fri, Oct 14, 2005, 14:03
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Ovechkin-->Selanne (a solid 3 wk sked)
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| | | 78 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Fri, Oct 14, 2005, 14:35
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Ovechkin-->Selanne for me too.
Along with Datsyuk-->Horcoff
Gotta save some cash to upgrade Seabrook on Sunday.
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| | | 79 | ZEUS
ID: 52956104
Fri, Oct 14, 2005, 14:42
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Ovechkin-->Selanne
and rolled the dice
Dunham ---> Labarbera
(didnt have the trade or the guts to do it until this morning)
Garon going to lose the #1 (if he ever had it) to the kid within 2 weeks....
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| | | 80 | TT
ID: 219571413
Fri, Oct 14, 2005, 16:01
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Ah yes of course Seabrook and Vorbiev have crappy schedules coming up. But is there really any better options at defensemen and forward?
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| | | 81 | Ira
ID: 568281417
Fri, Oct 14, 2005, 17:49
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Why arent people moving to Roloson instead of Labarbera?
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| | | 82 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Fri, Oct 14, 2005, 17:50
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$6,000,000
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| | | 83 | Ira
ID: 568281417
Sat, Oct 15, 2005, 00:46
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Wow, you have to be kidding me.
Horcoff hurt his shoulder tonight.
Word on the street is it's 7-10 days.
What to do..
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| | | 84 | Ira
ID: 568281417
Sat, Oct 15, 2005, 00:55
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How long is Thornton out for?
Horcoff>Bergeron could be a nice move..
That or Straka perhaps..
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| | | 85 | The Beezer
ID: 265172712
Sat, Oct 15, 2005, 09:25
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Good eye Ira, none of the sites I checked even note this - had to check the game notes to even hear about this.
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| | | 86 | The Beezer
ID: 265172712
Sat, Oct 15, 2005, 09:54
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Needed to move out of McCarty as well since he's now in gravity mode. Even though I think Horcoff will make plenty of cash today since he's not on an official injury list, I needed to make a move on him to afford McCarty -> Jagr, so I went Horcoff -> Lupul to take advantage of ANA's good sched the next 2 weeks.
5 trades left and I'll need to move out of Prospal after B2B starting today - I'm glad I have a couple days to think about that move. Planning on moving Jagr after Thursday's freeze into Heatley.
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| | | 87 | Ira
ID: 568281417
Sat, Oct 15, 2005, 13:08
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I just don't see now I can choose Lupul over Bergeron...
Bergeron's linemates are Samsonov and Glen Murray... Lupul's linemates are Rob Niedermayer and Selanne/Perry..
The only plus with getting Lupul is that I can get that extra money from Horcoff before Lupuls next game, because I'd have to trade for Bergeron tonight.
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| | | 88 | The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 07:39
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Well, starting today Pittsburgh has 14 games in the next 28 days - only Calgary plays that many in that time span. I hated to move Morrison after the game he had Tuesday night but Spezza is already moving up as well, so Morrison -> Crosby and Lupul -> Spezza today for me.
Still plan to move into Heatley tomorrow from Jagr along with about 1000 other owners I would bet.
What's everyone else doing?
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| | | 89 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 08:05
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Jagr -> Alfredsson
Doan -> Heatley
Horton -> Spezza
Naslund -> Gagne
Williams -> Forsberg
Lilja -> Desjardins
First four tomorrow, next two on the 22nd. All solid long-term holds, and I'll be left with 3 trades to handle injuries and Legace -> Grahame at some point.
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| | | 90 | Die_Habs
ID: 26211512
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 08:09
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I am still two weeks from picking up pittsburgh players, will pick them up for the 8 in 14. I think most managers are moving to ottawa players, and the smarter ones are including some flyers.
I think most would find it hard to obtain alffie, heatly, spezza, gagne, and forsberg all on one team.
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| | | 91 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 08:46
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Hossa -> Gagne
Jagr -> Heatley
Nagy -> Alfredsson
Nylander -> Spezza
Probably in that order. That'll leave me with 2 trades until next week, and i may end up using one to bring in Grahame before the trade week is out...
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| | | 92 | smallwhirled
ID: 37929121
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 11:31
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Similar gameplan to Rogue. We've been planning for "10/21" for 2 weeks now. This has always been the time where we were going to make a move.
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| | | 93 | C.SuperFreak
Sustainer
ID: 53771616
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 11:48
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What bothers me is that some of these players are already being purchased 2 days in advance. Thus many of us will be purchasing some of these players at a slightly higher price than anticipated.
I can't make any trades yet. 10 of 12 players on my roster are scheduled to play tonight.
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| | | 94 | smallwhirled
ID: 37929121
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 11:49
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Agree.
I've got a pretty full roster tonight as well. Can we maybe try and post updates of the Fla/Ott game here? Is it going to be postponed and rescheduled? That would put a thorn in my big plans.
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| | | 95 | caribou
ID: 42933205
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 12:56
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I will be trading for those players tomorow also, i'll wait. Iwas surprised to see some of the players already gaining in price and that are playing in two days (ott).....!
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| | | 96 | Die_Habs
ID: 26211512
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 13:01
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From a points perspective if Ottawa doesn't play the FLA game, it could hurt. From a money perspective, I think the lemmings will not be effected.
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| | | 97 | smallwhirled
ID: 37929121
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 13:09
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I agree, a no game for them would really screw some things up. I'd consider not getting Senators if that was the case. I wish we knew if they'd play or not.
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| | | 98 | TT
ID: 52715301
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 13:59
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If they don't play you lose maybe 50-100 points per player. But whether they play or not, you are almost gauarnteed 500k over the course of a couple days from each (ott) player.
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| | | 99 | chisnbeer
ID: 55721617
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 16:06
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Kobesew ----> Svatos yesterday
Comrie ----> Spezza today
Jagr -----> Heatley tomorrow
Amonte -----> Gagne tomorrow
Jokinen -----> Lang tomorrow
Nylander -----> Datsyuk tomorrow
Sedin -----> Zetterberg tomorrow
Visnovsky -----> Reddon tomorrow
Luongo ------> Hasek tomorrow
With one more trade in the bank, I traded for Spezza on all all 8 of my teams today. His price went up 50k yesterday before the tradaholics got their trades. It should go up at least 100k tonight maybe more.
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| | | 100 | Ira
ID: 568281417
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 17:55
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Whats so great about Philly's schedule?
After 5 games, they've got 2 in 8..
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| | | 101 | The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 18:16
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I was wondering about that too, Ira. 4 of the 5 are on the road and they face Belfour, Theodore, Hasek, Cam Ward, and Hasek. Granted, they should score a healthy amount on Carolina and Toronto, plus perhaps Montreal, but I'm not excited by the potential there. Plus the Flyers I like cost more than I've got right now.
I think the ESDNHL is getting ready to make its move back to the top of the league standings.
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| | | 102 | C.SuperFreak
Sustainer
ID: 53771616
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 18:29
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Hasek is in full Hasek mode already. I don't know how he does it. It's like watching Napoleon Dynamite do his dance routine. It's ugly but he gets the job done.
Somethings gotta give-there's no way he can keep it up.
10 to 1 it'll be his groin.
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| | | 103 | The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 18:33
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Agreed. I can't wait to buy Ray Emery - you just know it's coming.
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| | | 104 | Die_Habs
ID: 446102223
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 18:48
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I like phillies 4 + week schedule, they are long term holds for me, probably through the 1 in 4. I am banking trades right now, I can't seem to locate the points right now, and money is ho hum.
Phillies long term schedule is better then Ottawa, however I believe OTT players will recieve more $.
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| | | 105 | smallwhirled
ID: 43713209
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 19:00
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Agree about Philly, it's just slightly above average. The thing about it for me at least is just simply how good the Philly players "seem" to be. Forsberg is Forsberg, and if healthy, should be the best center. As for Gagne, playing with Forsberg is giving him ridiculous numbers at a cheap price.
I've been waiting for a while to finally pick them up, at least now they are available.
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| | | 106 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 19:55
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Phillies 3 day gap is something to watch, but they play WSH and ATL coming out of it... That's enough for me to hold through, price losses be damned. But well see, Gagne and friends have to be performing well prior ot the gap to be keepers.
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| | | 107 | horne_dawg
ID: 599472017
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 20:17
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Moves for the week
DOne
Lupul --> Spezza
Selanne--->Svatos
To DO list
Nylander--->??
Jagr--->Gagne
Legace--->??
I know I trades 2 Ana players with a good Schedule, but I want the RV gains.
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| | | 108 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 21:07
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Flyers have a great schedule this week, and then I can trade out for the 3-day hole. Maybe something like Forsberg -> ? and then Bergeron -> Forsberg after the gap. Really depends on if his price goes up all that much. Gagne we might have to move if the downward pressure is there.
In any case, Ott and Phi guys have been scoring at will so far. I see no reason to think it can't continue, so I'll hop on.
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| | | 110 | CrazyClowns
ID: 37924214
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 22:44
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Hemsky --> Svatos yesterday
Friday
Lang--> Spezza
Jagr --> Heatley
Hossa --> Gagne
Pronger --> Redden
Friday or Saturday
Lundqvist --> Hasek
That'll leave me with two trades.
Ottawa will bring home the dough for a while (especially Spezza and Heatley, maybe Hasek), Redden and Hasek brings some diversification to my team, which I feel is too largely owned.
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| | | 111 | Ira
ID: 568281417
Thu, Oct 20, 2005, 22:45
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Just goin
Jagr > Heatley
Bergeron > Spezza
tomorrow.
Will probably move Nylander... but to who.. Maybe Roloson too.. I just cant take it anymore
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| | | 112 | Ira
ID: 568281417
Sun, Oct 23, 2005, 20:18
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What did everyone do with Nylander?
I went with Lindros..
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| | | 113 | TT
ID: 52715301
Sun, Oct 23, 2005, 21:32
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Forsberg for the team that could, Williams for the team that couldn't.
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| | | 114 | Die_Habs
ID: 26211512
Mon, Oct 24, 2005, 09:17
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Looks like Gaborik is hurt, have an eye out on this one for those that went with him. I did x 3.
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| | | 115 | smallwhirled
ID: 46914248
Mon, Oct 24, 2005, 11:36
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Ouch, Gaborik looked like such a good pickup yesterday...
I wish I could afford Savard, but I can afford Crosby and might give him a shot tommorrow.
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| | | 116 | Wild Vikings
ID: 249162113
Mon, Oct 24, 2005, 12:31
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114. You saying you dropped Gaborik 3 times? Or you saying you picked him up 3 times?
Ive got him on my teams, Im hoping for an update from the team before 5 or I gotta drop him for something like ..
Gaborik -> Selanne? Kovalev? Samsonov
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| | | 117 | caribou
ID: 42933205
Mon, Oct 24, 2005, 12:50
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No more trades to get out of Gaborik...!
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| | | 118 | Al Bears
ID: 519502410
Mon, Oct 24, 2005, 12:52
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Any news about Gaborik's injury ?
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| | | 119 | Ira
ID: 568281417
Mon, Oct 24, 2005, 13:11
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If I were you I'd say Kovalev or Glen Murray, providing you already have Heatley..
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| | | 120 | Wild Vikings
ID: 249162113
Mon, Oct 24, 2005, 13:16
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Nothing official yet, but I dont think it looks very promising at this point.
I speculate that the best possible prognosis for Gaborik will be at least 7 days. I say this because the Wild have too many players with lockers in St. Paul.
With players coming on and off the IR list the Wild have thus far managed to avoid sending someone down to Houston or running a player through waivers. Gaborik to IR delays that another 7 days and considering this is a nagging groin injury I would say it would be a smart move.
Personally I think they should do an MRI on him to discover the extent of the injury. Will it take a few weeks or a few months? Someone has to hold him back long enough to make sure he is ready to return ...
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| | | 121 | Die_Habs
ID: 26211512
Mon, Oct 24, 2005, 13:44
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I currently have Gaborik on 3 teams, picked him on friday x 3. Still not sure who to move into, I am not a selanne fan right now as I have him in head 2 head league.
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| | | 122 | Wild Vikings
ID: 339472112
Mon, Oct 24, 2005, 14:47
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Well, I think I am leaning towards Kovalev which will free up enough cash for me to flip Gagne -> Jagr on the 29th or 30th.
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| | | 123 | horne_dawg
ID: 599472017
Mon, Oct 24, 2005, 15:10
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Hopefully all the lemmings wouldn't know about this, with Min having an off day today. I hope not to see a big drop till Wednsday morning, after they see him not playing Tuesday. I had to use my last trade yesterday, because I thought that Svatos was going to fall hard. and I went Svatos-->Gaborik with my last trade.
Also with Gaborik getting hurt on Sunday night most ppl were watch football and the World Series. At least I can hope, Right?
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| | | 124 | smallwhirled
ID: 46914248
Mon, Oct 24, 2005, 15:50
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Svatos > Gaborik was the right trade. Svatos did fall hard, it just sucks what happened to Gaborik. Gotta just wait and hope there I guess. Kovalev might not be too bad. Also a Leaf could be solid.
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| | | 125 | Die_Habs
ID: 26211512
Mon, Oct 24, 2005, 15:55
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Went Gaborik - Zetterburg on 2 teams. Had him already on another. 2 week hold (hopefully!)
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| | | 126 | horne_dawg
ID: 599472017
Mon, Oct 24, 2005, 16:28
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Well its not looking to bad, At least that what I think. this is how I see it.
292 people have Gaborik. 168 Picked him up yesterday. I think there is a lot of owners out there with 0 trades and Gaborik, and there is a lot of owners out there who will log on and see Gaborik on the pricer mover list, and see that he got 2 goals, and are stuip enough to pick him up today. If we want to compair his numbers with Jagr, he still has 687, and lost 488 owners. if owners own both of these guys they may drop Jagr just because they lost so much $$$, and they have no clue about Gaborik.
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| | | 127 | Silentz
ID: 429391411
Mon, Oct 24, 2005, 16:35
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Whatever it is you need to tell yourself.... ;)
Too bad Anaheim is Anaheim. They've got quite the full schedule over the next two weeks.
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| | | 128 | chipsnbeer
ID: 55721617
Mon, Oct 24, 2005, 17:14
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Expect them to move into a combination of Heatley, Zetterberg and Gagne. I suspect Heatley could move the most since Zetterberg and Gagne have already moved a lot. But it really depends on which players teams already have and why I said a combination
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| | | 129 | Wild Vikings
ID: 249162113
Mon, Oct 24, 2005, 18:52
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Considering I already had Heatley, Zetterberg and Gagne ... I would be a happy camper if people flip Gaborik into one of them. Me, Im going Kovalev for good long term schedule.
Ive identified, for myself, an opportunity to step up to Jagr at a point where Gagne's schedule drops off. This injury/trade is going to be made right now to guarantee I have enough $$ for the Gagne to Jagr move.
PS. with the current wild roster situation if Gaborik is expected to miss roughly 7 games ... I can fully expect them to toss him on IR to avoid an impending roster problem with (Nazarov, Boogaard, Wanvig, Foy, Robitaille, and Koivu) When Koivu returns someone gets waived.
Unless they send Koivu to Houston for conditioning to avoid the problem; which isnt beyond the realm of possibilitiy.
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| | | 130 | smallwhirled
ID: 46914248
Mon, Oct 24, 2005, 19:18
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For me, I'm going to do Murray > Jagr and try to hold Gagne.
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