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Subject: Week 5 trades

Posted by: C.SuperFreak - Sustainer [53771616] Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 14:45

Time to move on from week 4.
Post em if you wish.

Moving Lecavalier - Spezza
Moving Prospal - Heatley or Alfie

Link to
Week 4 thread

samuli
ID: 4593715
Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 15:23

Hmmm I have a few issues to figure out.

I just went VLC --> Staal. With the left-over money in my pocket, tomorrow I could go

1.)
Williams --> Spezza
Prospal --> Heatley
Zetterberg --> Alfredsson

OR

2.)
Grahame --> Legace (today)
Williams --> Spezza
Prospal --> Heatley (no money for Alf, or leave Williams be and get both Alf and Heatley... But I think Spezza will be the biggest gainer of the 3)

This is definitely a dilemma for many reasons, including Grahame's role once Burke returns... it's also boils down to whether it's better to get Alfredsson or Legace, granted their prices are 2M apart.

samuli
ID: 4593715
Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 15:35

...or I could downgrade Nicke Lidström to someone like Ryan Whitney, and then get all the big dudes. That would leave me a roster of

Forsberg
Spezza
Staal

Jagr
Gagne
Alfredsson
Heatley

Pitkänen
Visnovski
Whitney

Legace
Labarbera

That would look good a on paper but I'd subject myself to mortal bleeding should I find myself tradeless at some point (would be down to 2 trades initially).

(Why am I posting this? Maybe because it's easier to "think aloud", the idea of Lidström-Whitney -swap came to me while typing #2. Lol.)

samuli
ID: 4593715
Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 15:36

Make that "...while typing #1..."

The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 16:36

Yashin -> Spezza (reverse of trade into Yashin - at least he didn't lose money for me and scored a few points)
Sydor -> Phaneuf (tired of bleeding $20K per day and Phaneuf right now is my favorite player to watch period, plus he's been scoring really well for a $3m D guy)

1 trade allocated to picking up Legace from Grahame after he completes a game and 7 more left after tonight's refresh with no pressing moves.

I think Spezza will gain the most since OTT's schedule isn't great and I think Alfredsson and Heatley will split buys at wing since there are so many good ones to have right now (Jagr, Prospal, Zett, Ovechkin just to name four of several).

R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 17:03

samuli, not surprisingly I'm in the same boat as you. (Our RV's are almost identical)

I don't like the idea of downgrading a d-man either, but I am a bit short to make all the moves I want. Still haven't decided what to do, one of my big moves is going to have to wait a week. (Visnovsky, Legace or Alfie)

walk
ID: 236779
Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 17:22

I tempted to get right into Legace tonight. He is set to play and may make some money; Grahame is lame and may lose $ and I'm sick of him already. It'd be a risk, but I'm leaning...

- walk

R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 17:47

With only one trade, its either Grebeshkov -> Visnovsky or Grahame -> Legace. I sooo want to move Grebeshkov but my gut is telling me I need Manny. Ugh, another week gone by with that 500k bum! :(

R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 17:51

I went to Legace, and am set at goalie. Will figure out weather a D upgrade is in the cards tomorrow. :(

samuli
ID: 4593715
Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 19:45

Legace between the pipes, already 3 saves without aggravating the injury. Go Manny go, go/Go Manny go, go/Manny be good.

samuli
ID: 4593715
Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 19:49

Bollocks, Cammalleri scores, 1-0 for the Kings.

(As there's no action thread and I refuse to establish one as there would be no one discussing the action anyway, I'll just have a monologue here for a short while before hitting the hays [am way overdue already]. Thank you for your kind co-operation.)

R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 20:19

He looked great all period, made some great saves. Its safe to say he's back. Weather Detroit plays him as much as they did in October is debatable of course...

Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 20:24

I'll be happy to have him, take the cash, and hope he plays the majority of the games.

Ira
ID: 401017811
Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 20:54

Man Kovalchuk has a great schdule comin up.. too bad I can't afford him..

Just found out I won't be able to afford Legace with Grahame, so I'll get LaBarbera..

Lindros>Staal
Crosby>Spezza
Ovechkin>Heatley
Grahame>Labarbera

Dang, 1 trade left..

TT
ID: 31938290
Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 20:55

The only reason he played all those games in October was because Osgood was out. Legace might still be the #1 goalie, but I can't see him playing as much as he did in October with Osgood back. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they alternate starts, ala Minnesota Wild.

R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 20:58

Babcock has said Legace is his #1 again so we don't have to worry about that.

TT
ID: 31938290
Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 21:20

I was actually thinking of picking up Legace today. But I didn't want to give up the money gains from Staal.

Tuques
ID: 57854126
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 09:23

I decided to go with the flow and went William => Spezza...

I'm looking for a replacement on Aulb, Cloutier shoud get the start tonight, to bad I didn't made the move yesterday to Legace...

Here are my option for now, Hasek, Legace (not playing tonight), Aeibesher and Esche (not starting tonight).

Hasek, week schedule for 3 weeks, but could be a lock for 3-4 weeks and he sould get 90% of these game.

Legace, I already missed last night money and pts, does it worth it going to him today to avoid lost on Aulb?

Aebischer, 5 out the next 6 games on the road, but quite a nice sched for 3 weeks, but most of the game on the road, only 3 out of 12 games.

Esche, not starting tonight, Philly has 11 game in the next 3 weeks, and Philly being Philly then can win all of them....

Now that I noticed Colorado's schedule I'll try to find a way to fit Liles and maybe Tanguay or Hejduk in there... This means I would have to get rid of Ovechkin...

I love this game.....

Tuques

Ira
ID: 401017811
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 11:57

You know what?

I was actually thinking of turning Ovechkin into Kovalchuk on Sunday...

In that time period, Kovalchuk has 17 games in 32 days.. (games every .53 days)

If I went to Heatley today, 11 games in 23 days..(game every 0.48 days)

What does everyone think of holding on to Kovalchuk for a month instead of Heatley shorter term?
Is Heatley really going to earn that much money or out-perform?

smallwhirled
ID: 61041010
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 12:12

Ilya hasn't played well enough to warrant him as a "long term" hold, IMHO. Atlanta's sked isn't huge for another week or two I think. Can you get them both? I'm wondering what type of a TRV perspective you are coming from and if you are still playing with a couple cheapies.

Tuques, are you sure it is Cloutier tonight? Might want to make sure that Auld isn't starting first. What does Legace not having a game tonight have anything to do with not getting him? If you are basing your decision on picking up a goalie that plays tonight over a goalie that plays tommorrow, you are looking too short term. I thought I saw somewhere that Auld IS playing tonight. Then Auld > Legace tommorrow works for you in that case.

I also like Aebisher, Col should get it going along with that good sked.

Personally, I'm just mad that Legace had to come back last night. Now I'm screwed that his value is rising before I anticipated it, and I won't be able to do Gleason > Liles/Visnosky now. I gotta take my Cujo game over getting Legace tonight.

Crosby > Spezza
Prospal > Heatley (11/12)
Cujo > Legace most likely tommorrow

smallwhirled
ID: 61041010
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 12:17

But, that said, after reading your post in 13, Ira, Ovechekin > Ilya might be the better move for you.

Seems like you are, and have been having trade issues. Nothing screws a team more than running out of trades. All the people you see near the top of the leaderboards, that continue to run out of trades early in the week. Hell, even people have used all 5 trades TODAY! They will not be there in the end, you can bet on that.

smallwhirled
ID: 61041010
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 12:19

Shoot, I wish I could always put my thoughts in 1 thread but I always forget things.

Reason is, Ottowa has long term holdability if yo uare stubborn. But if you are not stubborn, a 1 in 5 appears towards the end of the next trade week I think, and they all should lose money during that period. Taking RV hits from 3 or 4 Senators, who also have only a mediocre sked, might be putting to many eggs in 1 basket.

That said, I'm getting 2 of them.

Ira
ID: 401017811
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 12:20

Alex Auld, Vancouver Canucks - Auld is the probable starter for Thursday's game against the Avalanche.

I went Lindros>Spezza, Crosby>Staal, Grahame>LaBarbera

I have about 4 mil left and Ovechkin.

I can either go Heatley or Kovalchuk.

It's a toughie alright..

Tuques
ID: 57854126
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 12:21

Here is the info on Cloutier starting tonight :

Dan Cloutier - G - Canucks

Dan Cloutier could return to the lineup as early as tomorrow against Colorado.
Cloutier is set to participate in his first practice today since suffering the concussion on October 29. If all goes well, expect him in net on Thursday. We will keep you posted. Nov. 9 - 2:38 pm et
Source: Vancouver Province

I decided to go with Hasek for a long term hold..

Tuques

Ira
ID: 401017811
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 12:50

smallwhirled..

I'm only at $57.65, and with all the Heatley talk, I expect him to make more $$, so I guess I'll move to him today..

I just hate having 1 trade going into the weekend..

Little M
ID: 13100911
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 12:52

I don't know about this move from Tampa to Ottawa. Between now and Nov 23, TB plays 8 games and Ottawa plays 6. So moving from LeCavalier/Prospal to Spezza/Heatley costs 2 trades and loses 4 games.

The only reason that I am considering the move is that Lecavalier and Prospal have slowed down on points and, more importantly, there could be big money gains in the move.

I still have a few more hours to think about it.

smallwhirled
ID: 61041010
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 12:59

8 to 6 becomes 6 to 5 if you wait until the 12th to do those trades. Although the money to Ottowa will be there beginning tonight. Not only that in terms of games, but you also have to consider that the shorter term, the better when it comes to game comparison, IMHO.

Holding a player who is worse in terms of potential TSNP/gm for a shorter term, say 2 for 1, is better than holding that same guy over a better player for a 5 vs. 4. Because the better player will then have more opportunities to eclipse the player who is not as good and completely wipe out the game advantage.

Tough Ira, Ovechkin isn't really a guy that could be held long term anyways, so you can't really bank a trade there. I say just go with your gut. It does suck being down to 1 trade on a Thursday, but hey, it's better than 0. Also, just don't use it on some useless Dman trade, and you could be okay all the way to next week if there are no injuries.

urkel
ID: 33950610
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 14:06

Pretty torn about what to do with my goalies. Really want to get Legace for the RV but I just can't see moving either Hasek or LaBarbera to get him.

I have Esche on one team, might move him, esp now with the news that he's not starting tonight due to soreness in his groin (according to HockeyInformer).

Die_Habs
ID: 26211512
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 14:36

Hasek and LaBarbera should be gaining RV as well, I think it would not be worth the trade on the team that you have both those goalies.

Tuques
ID: 57854126
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 14:42

Now that I traded Aulb for Hasek here is what I found :

Dan Cloutier - G - Canucks

Dan Cloutier will probably back up Alex Auld tonight.
Cloutier has had two solid days of practice and will probably be the back up tonight before getting his first start since suffering a concussion, on Sunday. Activate him this weekend if you can. Nov. 10 - 2:36 pm et
Source: Vancouver Sun

Tuques

TT
ID: 31938290
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 15:28

I made 4 trades today. First time this season I used this many trades this early in the trade week.

C.SuperFreak
Sustainer
ID: 53771616
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 15:58

Changed my mind: Holding Prospal and moved Samuelsson (det w) to Heatly.

R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 15:58

I made 3, and am down to 2 on a Thursday.

Williams -> Spezza
Shanahan -> Alfie
Recchi -> Heatley

Lowest I've ever been this early in the trade week. I'm pretty well set though barring train crashes/injuries, which I should be able to get through with 2 trades. In theory if I have a trade left next Wednesday I can finally upgrade Grebeshkov. I'm not going to hope too much for that though, its fallen through in 3 straight weeks!

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 16:13

I'm gonna take my chances and stay away from the Ottawa guys right now.

Price Changes have been dampened, we're not gonna see anymore +/- $200k changes, so with their below average schedule, I'm gonna pass. I'll probably lose the top spot in TRV because of it, but I think I can still make a run at it later on. Saving trades is more important, IMO.

smallwhirled
ID: 61041010
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 16:17

Am I moron thinking about skipping Legace? I've been on his boat, bigtime for the past few days. Telling people over and over that you need to get him. But now, I got screwed and missed my in. The earliest I could potentially get in is tommorrow. I hate getting people late....

Same thing with Heatley, if I go with him, I'm getting him late.

Using that logic, I'm thinking of just getting Markannen over Legace, and continue with my cheapie goalie way of playing.

I just hate getting in on players late, but I don't have scrubs or throw aways on my team to just dump right now. They are all REALLY solid besides what I do with my 2nd goalie slot.

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 16:26

I'd say get him tomorrow.

TT
ID: 31938290
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 16:34

Legace is not a 'must have'. But the OTT players are imo.

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 16:42

and I believe the exact opposite!

1.3..6.8.0..3..67..0.

thats just not a good schedule. After today they have a 1 in 4! Then maybe starting on Wednesday they have a 3 in 5, but then there's a 1 in 5.

I don't know about you guys, but I dont have the trades to be messing around with a schedule like that! There's no way these guys are gonna keep up the pace they're on right now. I just dont see it happening.

samuli
ID: 4593715
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 17:01

I went down the wishy-washy -road and got rid of Williams and Zetterberg replacing them with Spezza and Heatley, but didn't get Alfredsson. I think the money will be there although the schedule definitely isn't. Now sitting on 4 trades and no more definite moves planned for this week, although there's an enticing opportunity to turn Prospal into Kovalchuk on 11/16.

TT
ID: 31938290
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 17:23

3 games in a week is about the average for NHL schedules.

The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 18:20

SW's got me thinking about skipping Legace too. I heard on TSN's LA vs. DET broadcast last night that the Wings face +.500 teams in 9 of thier next 12, and looking at the sched grid reveals some formidable opponenets on the horizon. He'll probably see a few rests in there as well given that Osgood, a capable backup, is healthy again.

I see a lot of opportunties at the forward spots for upgrades the next few weeks (Thornton, Kovalchuk/Hossa, Naslund?) so im thinking about going cheapie route at G for a little while.

urkel
ID: 33950610
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 18:21

2 of my ultimate teams got Heatley, 1 got Heatley and Spezza, and that's it for my OTT guys. On my basic team in my no-buying trades league where I'm sort of hurting for trades I'm not getting any at all, sitting on Lecavalier, Jagr, Gagne, and Staal.

Only picking up Legace on one of my ultimate teams.

This is totally not what I planned at all, I planned a mass purchase of OTT players + Legace. But at the moment, the trades just don't seem to make sense to me right now. I hope I don't regret my decision to sit on my trades!

The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 22:18

Picked up Spezza and Legace, passed on Alfredsson and Heatley. I like my wingers at this point so I'm not interested in moving them.

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 22:56

I moved Lundqvist-->Labarbara :(

I was SURE Weekes was gonna get the start in the 2nd of the b2b!!!! But no, he puts up 91pts!!!

R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 23:27

Holy smokes, +830k.

The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 23:33

I'm going to kill John Grahame.... He's dead!!!... Hold me back!!...

Grahame -> Turd

Joelis
ID: 389331817
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 00:19

I couldn't agree more Dienasty.

A nice -30 on EACH team for me. He's gone, and never coming back on any team of mine again.

C.SuperFreak
Sustainer
ID: 053771616
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 00:44

Jagr -40K. Interesting especially with a B2B and a good schedule on the horizon...RV chasing at the expense of trades and points?
FWIW He's at least 2 weeks away from leaving my roster.

Iggy quietly cranking it up a notch. 1g, 2a, 8s, +2, 5PIMS.
mmm Prospal --> Iggy perhaps

The Habs/Pens game was incredibly exciting to watch!

R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 00:59

I'm not so sure Jagr will last that long for me. I definitely want him to, but its up to him really. No performance tonight and -40k will get everyone's attention, so he needs a good game to turn that tide. There's no way I'm missing the @Pit game, but if he does nothing two days is a long time to wait for the Toronto game on Tuesday. Jagr is owned at almost 65%, so if he starts falling he'll fall all the way imho.

The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 02:10

I'm pocketing a trade this week just for Jagr, there's no way im going to get caught in the wake of a catastrophic selloff again... Holding for Pittsburgh, then all bets are off.

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 10:33

For anyone who cares, NJ @ Washington today at 1 p.m.!!!!

so early freeze for those guys!

Caper
ID: 45458119
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 11:26

I picked up Legace for the start of the gains. Skipped the Ott wingers and took Spezza. I just don't have the trades to get in and out if anything happens there. I am moving Murray today and will look hard at Tam, Col, Was, Buf,Det, Car aand Ana. for a replacement. I think I need a guy who is not a rocket price gainer but a solid prodicer who I can hold a couple of weeks. The problem with having all the price gainers on Thursday/Friday is that it requires trades in the bank to protect Tuesday/Wednesday drops, IMHO.

I have done a horrendous job of managing so far but I am finally starting to get in front of some trades instead of constantly chasing to avoid being trampled...

I am holding Jagr, Zetterberg, Salo right now and I think I will keep them. I am trying to look at Monday and see who I would want to have on the roster to start the week.

Joelis
ID: 389331817
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 11:34

Damn. I made wholesale changes on my money team yesterday for RV gains, and only left myself with 1 trade on that one. Looks like I'll have to keep Grahame on that team and wait for the Jagr fallout.

On the other hand, I was going to take Labarbera, who isn't playing tonight now, so that kind of burns that idea anyway.

Other than Legace, there really aren't any great goalie options tonight.

Caper
ID: 45458119
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 14:08

Alright, I went Murray to Tanguay. Good schedule, low ownership, hopefully good upside with low risk. Some stability is important, IMHO.

Just a warning so you will all know to avoid.....

smallwhirled
ID: 1610331113
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 17:11

Cujo > Markannen
Jagr > Alfie
Gleason > Visnosky

Prospal > Ilya maybe the 16th or something.

No Legace. I'm scared of doing this, but I always seem to just eek by with cheap goalies. Watch this work because I'm lucky. ;)

One of Jagr's worst games this season was vs. Pit last time. Not as much of a slam dunk as everyone thinks, then again, he is Jagr. Good sked and all, I'm worried sick of Jagr he is way too owned for my liking.

Great One
ID: 1310468
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 17:28

Hey guys, didn't feel this warranted its own thread... I am new to hockey but am giving a roto league a shot. Is there a site that can accurately predict which goalie is going to start on a given night? Just email me if you have any insight instead of cluttering this thread up. Thanks - GO

samuli
ID: 4593715
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 17:42

#55

Check this out.

Hope it helps (it does).

smallwhirled
ID: 1610331113
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 17:44

Yeah, this guy looks through all the newspaper and does all the work. Awesome site right there, it even has his percentage on the bottom. Pretty darn good. Great link, samuli.

Great One
ID: 1310468
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 18:42

Wow, thanks very much.

samuli
ID: 4593715
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 19:38

My pleasure.

The decision to keep Prospal looks to be paying off right now, as he has 1+1, +2 with 03:19 to play in the 1st period.

Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 19:55

I am on the even dumber path of holding graham as well. Go Bolts.

Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 19:57

Not that holding Prospal is dumb, holding Grahame is.

samuli
ID: 4593715
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 20:05

I was just about to ask...

Cheers for the clarification.

(Grahame is turning into a nice, cheap differentation-pick if only he/his team can get their act together. I doubt many people who've just recently picked up Hasek/Kiprusoff/Legace/Labarbera would have the guts to jump straight back to Grahame even if he stole a SO or 2. IMO)

Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 20:25

A nice loser pick, another 3 goals on less than 15 shots, another sweet -30 differentiation.

samuli
ID: 4593715
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 20:27

Damn Kovalchuk, why does he have to have 3 straight off-days after tomorrow.

walk
ID: 61049120
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 20:28

Man, this Jagr sell-off boggles my mind. After the 1 in 4 for the rangers, hardly a major layoff, no other team in the league plays more games than the rangers from Nov. 15-26 (NYR & Detroit both play 7, most play 6). I guess his very recent lack of serious production, combined with the Senator schedule resumption, adds up to a sell here.

- walk

walk
ID: 61049120
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 20:34

Yeah, I dumped Grahame today on 1 team, Doom, after last night's drubbing, for Labarbera, and then was dismayed to read that Grahame would start b2b while Labs would sit. Well, as it were, Grahame has given up 3 goals on 18 shots before the end of the 2nd period (all 3 goals to Kovalchuk)...He's not very good.

- walk

Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 20:36

Another one for Kovalchuk. Brilliant.

samuli
ID: 4593715
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 20:43

He'll end up with 6 tallies before it's all said and done, watch and weep (I definitely am).

R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 20:48

I was debating weather to go Jagr -> Kovalchuk or Stillman. I chose the one that would save me some money for a d-man upgrade, so you can guess how happy I am right now.

Argggggggggggggggghhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

samuli
ID: 4593715
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 20:53

Meanwhile, the Wings are abusing "that other Manny": 28 shots fired midway through the 2nd period. Lol. I guess the Wild's defense was given a day off since they stood no chance of winning it anyway.

walk
ID: 61049120
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 20:56

Anyone moving Jagr to Ilya tonight with the Atlanta b2b followed by 3 off days was clarevoyant, so R9, I cannot blame you for not taking him...

- walk

The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 22:25

Nothing like 250+ points with only 4 going (Williams, Legace, Prospal, Ovechkin). And it was well distributed too so nobody is screaming to be traded. I'd love to keep that average with 9 going tomorrow night...

Ira
ID: 401017811
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 22:41

sick.

I'm like the only guy out there without Legace.

It hurts.

Ira
ID: 401017811
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 23:07

hey smallwhirled

who called it on Kovalchuk?

;)

The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 23:19

Hmmm, -130K on Jagr heading to Pittsburgh tomorrow and according to my rankings the 4th best schedule in the next two weeks. And the biggest gainer at wing is Erik Cole. That's funny. I wonder how many teams burned their last trade on that move - a lot of zeroes on the board.

Joelis
ID: 389331817
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 00:46

I can't believe Labarbera went up 130 when everyone knew he wasn't playing tonight. WTF?

And Garon had a great game too.

The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 05:11

I can't wait till we get deeper into the season when teams will be more diverse then they are now.

I've got a trade banked for a potential Jagr -> Kovalchuk deal... Or Crosby -> Staal, allowing me to relieve myself the dubious distinction of being the only manager left without Eric Staal.

Tuques
ID: 480492816
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 08:24

I decided to go with Tanguay from Prospal this morning, I don't understand why people are selling Jagr, nice sched comming up, I guess now that I took the first hit I can only hope for a good night and the money should come back with the pts..

Tuques

Die_Habs
ID: 446102223
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 08:25

Ira - it was an easy call to say look at Kovalcuk on the 16th, the schedule is great. I know it was going to be a secret weapon for me, looks like the 4 goal night will now make him on the radar.

As for picking him up for last nights game, the schedule didn't justify it. Unless you could forsee the future, it wasn't the move to make.

The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 10:18

I've also passed on Staal so far. I guess living in NC I just keep expecting for the wheels to come off that wagon and don't quite believe what I'm seeing. I doubt that I buy into him at this point - for me I think it's a bad idea to pick up another center with high ownership since I'm still holding Williams.

urkel
ID: 289950
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 10:41

the Williams drops took me by surprise a little. I guess people needed to drop someone to pick up Spezza.

smallwhirled
ID: 1610331113
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 10:48

Some guy on the TSN boards had Ilya, and then traded him with new trades???????

Don't understand.

urkel
ID: 289950
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 11:05

He's actually one of the better managers in this game too (2 teams top 20 WWR), but we all make mistakes I guess!

smallwhirled
ID: 1610331113
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 11:52

There is a big difference between being up there now, and being up there at the end of the season. It is called "late week" RV. You can't make late week RV if you run out of trades every week.

Twarpy
ID: 279342714
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 13:21

I had Ilya on two teams, and was gonna pick Ilya up on my 3rd team later this week. Nonetheless it was a nice pickup.

Dienasty put me down as another guy without Staal, many people may not realize but last night he was hit hard and did leave the game briefly in the first min of play. From someone whos had those injuries before it doesn't really affect you to the next day, so I guess we will see.

urkel
ID: 289950
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 13:26

Uh oh:

From
RotoWorld:

Mathieu Garon will split goaltending duties with Jason Labarbera.
Coach Andy Murray revealed that he would prefer to share the starts equally between his two keepers for the rest of the season. This is never good news for fantasy owners of either goalie, unless you own the pair. Keep a close eye on each goalie's play, as Murray will ride the hot hand until one struggles, then switch.

urkel
ID: 289950
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 13:32

The goaltender situations in LA and NYR have been KILLING me!

samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 19:19

1st shot of the match, 1st goal for Gagne. Somehow, Forsberg wasn't on ice? Must assume they were in the middle of changing lines.

Edit: 2-0, Knuble, assisted by Forsberg, Gagne. Lol.

samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 19:24

...and Kovalchuk keeps going, his 5th goal withing 24 hours.

samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 19:31

Wow, it's 2-2 in Philadelphia with 10 minutes to play in the first. Anyone feel like betting this will be a 12-12 -draw after 60 minutes? Florida's 2nd goal is significant in that it was assisted by Jay Bouwmeester... I must've been just about the only clown in the TSN-universe who actually drafted this dude, and kept him there for quite a long while. Was this his first point this season? Can't be bothered to check really. Good for you, Jay, keep on racking up those points.

samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 20:08

10:04 Jon Sim: 2 Minutes for Tripping Martin Gelinas
12:08 Mike Rathje: 2 Minutes for Interference of Martin Gelinas
12:08 Joni Pitkanen: 10 Minutes for Misconduct Martin Gelinas

--------------

I'm tired off my socks but damn that's funny. STOP PICKING ON MARTIN GELINAS YOU THUGS!!!

urkel
ID: 33950610
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 20:11

6 nothing Atlanta early in the second... insane - this after Gerber posted a shutout in last game too.

Somehow Staal and Cole not on the ice for any even strength goals.

Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 20:12

Maybe they should put Gelinas in goal, he might be safer.

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 20:13

Dunham is out for the Thrashers, announcers don't know why yet.

Savard has 4 assists!

urkel
ID: 33950610
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 21:00

Whoa, am I reading this right? Jagr 2 goals in 15 seconds?

samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 21:02

That's just Jaromiraculous, and tragic at the same time considering all the poor souls who bailed early. There's hoping for a hatty!

samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 21:05

Heatley with the trick. Oddly, Spezza has 0 assists so far.

Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 21:05

It matters not, all those that bailed went to Heatley or Alfie, both are way beyond whatever Jagr will get.

samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 21:08

Except the individuals who opted for Eric Cole.

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samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 21:10

Umm now they are saying Sens' 6th goal was scored by Spezza.

101

The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 21:55

That Jagr is so tricky. ;)

102

Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 21:56

Nice.

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Ira
ID: 401017811
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 22:01

So are we still holdin on to Jagr?

And Die_Habs: I went with Heatley over Kovalchuk after all

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urkel
ID: 33950610
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 22:58

Tonight is crazy. Even Calgary is up 4-0 after 1 period, and they haven't exactly been an offensive powerhouse this year.

Iggy with one of the goals.

105

walk
ID: 61049120
Sun, Nov 13, 2005, 08:32

The Jagr hold, one of the better decisions this year...

- walk

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samuli
ID: 4593715
Sun, Nov 13, 2005, 08:34

There is a special term for Jagr getting the trick on the same day his price drops by 110k, in the middle of a good stretch of schedule.

Poetic justice.

=)

107

The Beezer
ID: 265172712
Sun, Nov 13, 2005, 09:16

Considering that the Flyers and Sens both have 1-in-5 stretches coming up quick, I don't see anyone out there worth moving Jagr for today. I'm holding him and Prospal both as I don't want to make any trades that I don't have to make at this time.

108

urkel
ID: 289950
Sun, Nov 13, 2005, 11:14

Who do you deal to get Kovalchuk on Wednesday? That's a toughie...

109

Rick007
ID: 23151226
Sun, Nov 13, 2005, 12:04

I'll be dealing Heatley...

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samuli
ID: 4593715
Sun, Nov 13, 2005, 12:16

Prospal --> IK47 for me.

(Anyone with a lamer nickname for the guy, let's see 'em.)

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samuli
ID: 4593715
Sun, Nov 13, 2005, 12:19

Thinking about it, we have far too few nicknames for the hockey-players. One of the all-time greatest threads on the hoops-board was the one for listing players' nicks... Is it because the body-armour they wear makes distinct features less visible on hockey-dudes? Anyway, this is something to think about (it is for me anyway).

112

Ira
ID: 401017811
Sun, Nov 13, 2005, 17:15

anyone think its worth using my last trade as Vorobiev>Svatos for some cash?

Vorobiev: -90K
Svatos: +80K

last night

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R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Sun, Nov 13, 2005, 17:22

Not on a Sunday. If you only have one trade left, save it for Wednesday in case of injury. I too have one trade left, and its likely staying with me until Wednesday, when I'll use it to get IK47. Barring an injury or crash in the next few days of course...

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Ira
ID: 401017811
Sun, Nov 13, 2005, 17:47

who do you trade for Kovalchuk?
Heatley?

Jagr's schedule is too nice..

115

R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Sun, Nov 13, 2005, 17:55

I have a deadbeat I can move, if you don't it makes things harder. Heatley -> IK47 might be the move.

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samuli
ID: 4593715
Sun, Nov 13, 2005, 17:59

Ok who's with me, the new NHL just sucks on days when guys like Frolov and Conroy score about 985 TSNP in the first period, and you go like "why didn't I pick up these dudes, after all they were going to face the useless Jackets and all" like a total half-wit.

Happens quite often to me.

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The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Sun, Nov 13, 2005, 21:00

I've still got Ovechkin so he'll turn into Kovalchuk sometime in the next few days.

118

Hot Rod
ID: 539171514
Sun, Nov 13, 2005, 22:22

Anyone know when Gaborik will be healthy? I've been waiting all season.. and his 6 points in 2 games were just a big tease. A move to him when he comes back would be a big money gainer.

119

The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Sun, Nov 13, 2005, 22:40

TSN-wise, Garborik's health won't matter until the end of the month as the Wild only play 4 games in the next 16 days. If he gets healthy by then he could be a nice pickup.

120

The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Sun, Nov 13, 2005, 22:54

Hmm, just a week ago it seems i couldn't figure out ways to spend the extra money i had banked, and now it seems i don't have neough to even pull off the simplest of moves...

I am glad however that teams like LA and Atlanta are jumping in and offering more compelling trade options. It was getting a bit boring seeing the same players from the same teams on everyone's roster.

121

C.SuperFreak
Sustainer
ID: 053771616
Sun, Nov 13, 2005, 23:39

Just so you know. When I pick up Conroy, his bubble will burst and his fantasy value will plummet.

I just can't believe how well he is playing in LA. Good for him.

That reminds me, I bought a carton a milk the other day and the photo of the missing person on the side was none other than Patrice Bergeron.

122

The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Sun, Nov 13, 2005, 23:41

Scratch the above. Can't afford to get into Kovalchuk so I went Ovechkin->Frolov instead. Should be a big train after today's game and I can hold him for a few weeks. I just wish I'd done it yesterday but to be honest it wasn't something I had considered.

123

The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 07:53

Big time trouble with LaBarbera:

Jason Labarbera has left the Kings to deal with a family matter.
It is not known what is wrong, nor when Labarbera will return. We will keep you informed. The Kings are expected to call up Adam Hauser from Manchester to back up Mathieu Garon. Nov. 14 - 7:00 am et
Source: Los Angeles Times

This messes things up nicely, as i don't have enough money to upgrade to anyone meaningful (other than Grahame, and id prefer not to go there), and not enough trades to create neccessary funds to get a quality replacement until Thursday. I'd image several teams are in a similar position as well. What to do?

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The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 08:18

It's possible he may only miss one game, seeing as he has apparently returned to Los Angeles to deal with his matter. If it gets resolved quickly, he might be able to join the team on thier home stand.

That's me trying to justify not wasting a trade this whole situation.

125

walk
ID: 236779
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 09:09

I like the rationalization, The Dienasty, cos I'm in the same boat...Let's hope this gets resolved before the market swings...

- walk

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walk
ID: 236779
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 11:28

LA Times: Labarbera Out Indefinitely

This article indicates that Labarbera could be out for an extended period of time, but it's really quite uncertain given the lack of details.

- walk

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Ira
ID: 401017811
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 12:34

The only option I can see is moving
LaBarbera>Markkanen (8 in 17)
on Wednesday.

Atleast we'll have a couple days before we're forced to make the decision.

and when the crap is Jagr's bleeding going to stop? another -70K last night...

Also, after all that gain, Staal was down 40K last night? Man, these price changes are startin to piss me off..

128

caribou
ID: 291027310
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 12:45

Star scorer Alexei Kovalev of the Montreal Canadiens will undergo knee surgery Tuesday in Pittsburgh. Habs GM Bob Gainey was to address the media at the Bell Centre later Monday. While it won't be known for certain exactly how long Kovalev will be out of the Habs' lineup, sources tell TSN the initial expectation is he will miss at least a month.

129

Die_Habs
ID: 26211512
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 14:28

7 trades with only no money in the bank.

I want to trade Labarbera but I see no options without trades McCabe.

I hate to use 2 trades on this, if he only misses a game.

WWYD (What would you do?) lol.

130

Ira
ID: 401017811
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 14:37

lookin at your team, it looks like McCabe is the only out you have..

but trust me, if you could still get out of this situation and have 5 trades left, you're prime.

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smallwhirled
ID: 4110581411
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 16:05

For me, this probably uses up my emergency trade, but I have 2 options. Use a trade to free up cash to go to a stud, or use 1 and stay cheap.

The "cheaper" options are Garon, Markannen, and Dunham.

There are a few issues here. The cheap options to free up cash are primarily from LA. LA starts a 3 in 8 today, and the sked is much better starting Next Tuesday for them (skaters).

What expensive options are appealing right now? Seriously I don't see a whole lot. Aebischer could be decent if there is a lot of money available.

Plus, to free up money, which studs would you want to sell? Any team that has a couple Sens plus a couple Philly means they only have a few slots left, and if the manager knows what he/she is doing, they probably are in good skeds as well, which makes it harder to justify downgrading....

With all of that added up, I think I'm going to stick to the "mold" of my team setup and go to Dunham today.

All this does is make Prospal > Ilya now have to be Hejduk > Ilya. But Hejduk still is still hurting and just got moved off PP1, so even with a great sked, I'm cutting some losses there, while Prospal at least has played very well.

132

R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 16:10

Went with Dunham too, I didn't like any of the expensive options at all. (Other then Hasek, but their schedule is weak.)

Labs being out 'indefinitely' is a bad sign imho. If he was just going to a funeral or something it would be a known amount of time, indefinitely implies something else. Could be 3 days, could be a month?

133

CrazyClowns
ID: 5195166
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 16:55

Picked up Labarbera saturday, out he goes now for Markannen, without having played a single game. No money for other options, Im not going to get burned a 3rd time by Graham (which got sold for Labarbera on saturday), I learned my lesson.

At least I made 160k. Even if he does not play tonight, Labarbera wont either and he'll start to bleed. I would expect a loss > 50k tonight, which is usually a light trading day.

134

samuli
ID: 4593715
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 16:57

I've lost track probably but isn't Dunham hurting again? He was pulled after the 1st period when they massacred the 'Canes.

135

walk
ID: 236779
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 17:13

Yeah, a sore groin, which is why Dunham was removed (conservative move they said) can easily be tweaked with one stretch...that seems awfully risky.

- walk

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walk
ID: 236779
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 17:40

Such angst. Well, I traded Labarbera two times, once for his teammate, Garon, and once for a seldom-used back-up who always wins, Emery of Ottowa. My rationale was to ensure that I had enough cash to be able to move Prospal to Kovalchuk without having to trade down, and to avoid Dunham, who's injury risk is too great for my stomach. I'll eat no P-T for Emery (he started the last game for Ottowa, and now won't play for 3-4 more games) and hopefully be able to move him right back to Labarbera after his price declines.

- walk

137

The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 17:42

I'm thinking about ditching Barbs for a 500K cheapie, just to avoid the loss...

138

Hockey ljusa sidan
ID: 45625148
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 17:53

Argh, Labarbera->Tellqvist

139

Joelis
ID: 389331817
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 17:58

The only thing that could make this more entertaining is if Grahame could get a win tonight.

140

smallwhirled
ID: 4110581411
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 17:58

I'm so confused I don't know what to do.

141

The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 18:07

any predicts on what type of losses we could see today and next couple of days? Not Legace proportions i wouldn't think?

Are we talking -100, -100, -100. Or more along the lines of -250, -250, -250?

<-- Tormented.

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smallwhirled
ID: 4110581411
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 18:22

Have until 11 PM, but I'm trying to make a rationale...

I see Dunham as being equal to Tellqvist or Emery (with price being the negative), but with upside that the others don't have. Dunham is the ONLY goalie in Atlanta right now is what I keep thinking.......Ugh, this sucks. I don't like the idea of freeing up cash to upgrade.

Labs's losses? I don't know if it's huge today. There should be a Detroit selloff too. Tommorrow and Wednesday are probably different stories though.

143

Ira
ID: 401017811
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 18:43

Dunham vs. Markkanen contemplation

Dunham only played the 1st period last game, but I'm assuming it's because Atlanta had a 5-0 lead at intermission, so they decided to rest him. If he's injured, someone say something.

Providing it's a short term hold (2 weeks)

Atlanta's schedule is 7 in 14
Islanders (good), Toronto (don't know what to think), Philly (REALLY bad), Montreal (bad), Rangers (probably bad), Florida (good), Carolina (bad)
Toronto-Philly is back to back. I'm guessing Dunham will only play 1 of those games, considering Philly is one of the teams..

Edmonton's schedule is 6 in 14
Colorado (bad), Detroit (sorta bad, we do well against Detroit), Chicago (good), San Jose (don't know what to think), Minnesota (see San Jose), Calgary (see Minnesota)

Both are around the same price..

144

The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 19:07

I think i may go with *deep breath*... Grahame. Looks to be a lock for the next 2 starts, so there's potential for some TSNP, that is, if the defending Stanley Cup champion team ever chooses to start playing like one. Tonigts game against Philly worries me, but if he gets blownout itll at least be at the hands of Gagne, Forsberg and Pitkanen :| .

145

urkel
ID: 33950610
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 19:11

I don't have a link for Dunham but I recall hearing the same thing as walk, a groin thing. He's just way too risky a pick for my blood.

This one REALLY has me stumped, even on my team that has 7m in the bank. It's even harder for my teams that have 1-2m in the bank. I hate to use two trades on this but I really don't like the cheapie options right now.

146

urkel
ID: 33950610
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 19:30

Damn, I think I'm going to go with Markkanen on at least 2 teams. I think he's going to be the most obvious trade from LaBarbara, as a lot of people won't be able to afford anyone else without using 2 trades, and because he was one of the few goalie gainers last night.

At least I should see some RV gains from this mess, even if the points are pretty uncertain.

147

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 19:34

I'm not willing to take on a guy who just had a negative and now faces Detroit and Colorado b2b!!!!

I think I'm gonna take a risk on dunham. If it fails, at least I know I'll have more trades on Wednesday to fix it! And it definitely wont fail BEFORE Wednesday!

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smallwhirled
ID: 4110581411
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 20:27

I am taking a chance on Dunham. Leaves me flexability with the moves I want to make down the road. I'm not letting one injury make me re organize my whole team. It is built for a stud in every spot besides goalie, and I'm keeping it that way.

Forsberg just showed me on TV why I like him on my team.

149

urkel
ID: 33950610
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 21:26

Markkanen sitting for this one.

Maybe that's a good thing. :)

150

Ira
ID: 401017811
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 21:44

or not...

Edmonton up 2-1...

151

chipsnbeer
ID: 35957301
Tue, Nov 15, 2005, 15:32

thats what happens when you put your eggs in the basket of a cheap goalie, to get out of it you either have to burn two trades or buy a back-up who plays every two weeks. Lets say this happened to Svatos, you could always move over to Vorobiev or Hossa or some other PRODUCING cheap player. The same can't be said for goalies. This game is much like playing the stock market. Any wise investor will tell you to "hedge" your investment .... meaning have a back-up plan in all cases (either extra trades or players to (money) for your whole line up in case of injury). If you leave yourself open you WILL get burned several times through the coarse of the year.

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J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Tue, Nov 15, 2005, 15:47

I tend to agree. I know smallwhirled is all about his cheap goalies, but I don't buy it. I think I'd rather have Jason Williams and a Luongo type goalie then have Forsberg and a cheap goalie like Labs/Markannen, etc. Its alot easier to replace Williams with one trade than it is to find another cheap goalie.

Of course, with that being said, I am now a Mike Dunham owner!!!

153

chipsnbeer
ID: 35957301
Tue, Nov 15, 2005, 15:58

I wouldn't be arguing that point if there were three other one million dollar goalies out there that were VIABLE options to move to, but there aren't. If you take on a player that can't be readily replaced at any given moment you WILL get burned. It is a six month 82 game schedule. I have no empathy or sympathy for those who owned Legace for example and had no trades left to dump him when he got injured. Looking at my line-up if I owned Gagne, Staal, Jagr, Spezza, Legace, Heatley (the most widely owned players) and burned all my trades by Saturday I am asking for trouble. I have to be able to move any player for (in my mind) an equal player at any time. If I don't think this through along those terms I will not win anything.

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smallwhirled
ID: 4110581411
Tue, Nov 15, 2005, 16:24

Yeah, I do like cheap goalies. I've always liked them. Even in the years where scoring was WAYYY down, I've done much better with bigtime stud fowards and cheap goalies.

I'm going to continue to play this way, but once we get near the midway point it is not going to be a factor for my team anyways as I will have enough RV to cover everything. I'm just trying to get to that point first...

155

samuli
ID: 4593715
Tue, Nov 15, 2005, 16:36

Well if you burnt your trades by saturday the price of your goalies is of remarkable insignificance seeing you won't be moving them anywhere anyway.

Gonna get LesBarbs back as soon as he reports back, I'm planning on it.

156

Ira
ID: 401017811
Tue, Nov 15, 2005, 17:39

I prefer the one expensive goalie-one cheap goalie duo

157

My
ID: 3395354
Tue, Nov 15, 2005, 19:16

Burke is playing tonight instead of Grahame, i'm so happy i didnt make a trade.

158

R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Tue, Nov 15, 2005, 19:39

Dunham on IR. ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHH

159

Ira
ID: 401017811
Tue, Nov 15, 2005, 19:52

Bahahaha

I'm glad I went Markkanen

160

urkel
ID: 33950610
Tue, Nov 15, 2005, 20:35

Same. I've gotten burned enough times this year on uncertain goalie situations, whether it was due to goalie controversies or injuries, I decided it was better to go with a guy who might not be the best goalie, but is healthy and the clear starter. So for me Dunham and Grahame just weren't options for me - Markkanen was my man.

Of course that said, Markkanen sat last night! So what the heck do I know?
:)

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Ira
ID: 401017811
Tue, Nov 15, 2005, 22:05

don't worry urkel..

Markkanen's just gettin a rest..

He hasn't started more than 25 games in a season in his career, and he's started 17 already this season. He's still their #1.

On the other hand, I can see MacT rewarding the next start to Morrison for his effort in Colorado..

162

Die_Habs
ID: 446102223
Tue, Nov 15, 2005, 22:21

I wish I would of just sucked up the RV losses.

McCabe with a big night after I had to sell him in order to afford Aebischer (who sucked last night btw).

163

The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Tue, Nov 15, 2005, 23:23

Gagne -40K. LOL, ok...

164

The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Tue, Nov 15, 2005, 23:44

Yes, Gagne down 40K while Dunham went up 30K and other guys that will need to go shortly made money. That's OK, keep wasting those trades lemmings, because your time is coming...

Went Prospal->Kovalchuk and Spezza->Savard just now. Both of those guys are long-term holds for me and will make a mint going forward.

165

Tuques
ID: 57854126
Wed, Nov 16, 2005, 09:27

OK this morning I had to move Ovechkin to get Kovalchuk and to be able to do so, I had to drop Spezza, I'm now looking at a cheap center option...

I have now Straka and Staal up there and I have 2.11 Million left in the bank...

Here are my option at the moment :

Ryan Getzlaf (1.18) Anaheim have a really nice sched comming up for the next 2 weeks, againt tough opponent.. He should see more ice time how that Federov is gone...

Tim Connolly (0.5) Buffalo have a really good sched too but Connolly will be behing Briere and Drury up there...

There is not much other option at center for this price...

Tuques

166

samuli
ID: 4593715
Wed, Nov 16, 2005, 10:34

Tuques, how about J. Williams? The Wings' schedule stays great for a good while longer and his price has come down lately.

167

Tuques
ID: 57854126
Wed, Nov 16, 2005, 11:08

salumi I've tought about William but he's too expensive and his salary is on the down slope now... I had William since day 1 and he game me lots of pts and money....

Tuques

168

Die_Habs
ID: 26211512
Wed, Nov 16, 2005, 11:31

Carter, Jeff 1.98M
Richard, Mike 2.13M
Alexander Steen 1.1
Kyle Wellwood 500k
Reinprecht, Steve 1.92
Perezhogin, Alexander 1.14

Some options for the Turques. Not the ideal players you would want, but this happens sometimes.

169

J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Wed, Nov 16, 2005, 12:02

Here's the list I came up with for under 2.11. I like Carter.

Player	Team	Pos	Cost	Schedule
Carter, Jeff	Phi	C	$1,980	1.34..7..01..45..8..1
Cooke, Matt	Van	C	$2,010	12..5.7.9.12..56..9..
Comrie, Mike	Pho	C	$1,510	1..45.7..01...5..8.0.
Fisher, Mike	Ott	C	$500	.2.4..7..01..4.67..0.
Stoll, Jarret	Edm	C	$2,070	.2.4.6.8.0...4.6.8...
Connolly, Tim	Buf	C	$500	.2.4..78.0.2.4.67.9..
Steen, Alexander	Tor	C	$1,100	.2.4...8.01.3.56.8..1
Reinprecht, Steve	Cal	C	$1,820	1.3..6.8.0...4.6.8..1
Belanger, Eric	LA	C	$1,950	.2.4..7.9.1.3.5.78..1

170

Tuques
ID: 57854126
Wed, Nov 16, 2005, 12:19

I'm really leaning forward to Connolly, no way to loose money and really nice sched comming....

The main problem with Carter is this hole in the sched, 1 game in 5 days, I'll have to sell Gagne for this and if I have also Carter I would have to sell him too, Connolly could stay much longer and won't loose me money...

Tuques

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J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Wed, Nov 16, 2005, 12:23

Carter is unowned, so there's really no need to get rid of him, IMO

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samuli
ID: 4593715
Wed, Nov 16, 2005, 13:48

Prospal --> Kovalchuk

and

Lidström --> DeVries

for me. Was torn between DV and Jason Woolley but opted for the former, mainly due to the money-potential. Pitkänen might have to go in a few days anyway which is when Woolley will be given another look.

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