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| Posted by: smallwhirled
- [171046162] Wed, Nov 16, 2005, 16:43
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| | | 1 | smallwhirled
ID: 171046162
Wed, Nov 16, 2005, 16:46
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The Dunham thing sucked for me. At the time I thought it was worth the gamble, but it'd didn't work out.
For now I'm going to wait until Forsberg is done with his 3 in 4, and then downgrade to get a decent goalie for Dunham at that time...
Looking at all of the goalies, beginning on Sunday, I don't see a heck of a lot of options that I like. Kinda sucks, goalie is just horrible this year.
That day is also sell Philly/Ottawa day, and I will probably get some LA, Atl, or Ana guys.
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| | | 2 | chipsnbeer
ID: 35957301
Wed, Nov 16, 2005, 17:12
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I am moving from LeCavalier/Prospal to Datsyuk/Zetterberg ...... Detroits sched just looks too appealing especially at home against the Blues on Sat night. And yes I never spend less than 12m for my two goalies. I have gained over a 1000 extra points in that position alone in my league TSN_10 and have a 1500pts lead on the #2 guy.
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| | | 3 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Wed, Nov 16, 2005, 17:56
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I'm thinkin of just keepin my 2 goalies (Markkanen & Kiprusoff) and then goin Forsberg/Spezza>Williams, Gagne/Heatley>Zetterberg on Sunday
Which 2 guys do I want to keep, and which 2 do I trade? hmmm
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| | | 4 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Wed, Nov 16, 2005, 18:00
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Dang...
Could also go
Forsberg>Savard, Heatley>Kovalchuk today... and then Spezza>Williams and then Gagne>Zetterberg on Sunday....
4 trades? Yes, I'm a tradeaholic.. I have to decide in like an hour if I want to do this
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| | | 5 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Wed, Nov 16, 2005, 18:04
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son of a....
I just realized I dont have any trades right now..
so much for that lol
and sorry about the 3 posts in a row
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| | | 6 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Wed, Nov 16, 2005, 18:28
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#2, has that 12 mil really gained you pts compared to teams that had Labs? I'd gladly fork over the money to buy an expensive goalie, if I could find one with a decent schedule who also doesn't completely suck. It seems like my choices are sub 3-mil suckiness, or over 3 mil suckiness. Maybe I'll just go Hasek and leave the position be for the next 4 months.
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| | | 7 | urkel
ID: 33950610
Wed, Nov 16, 2005, 19:04
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damn, I wanted to pick up some ATL guys today but I forgot about it until it was almost too late. I made a couple of hasty trades, Forsberg > Savard but couldn't decide who to trade away to get Kovalchuk in time. Oh well. I hope the Savard trade works out.
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| | | 8 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Wed, Nov 16, 2005, 23:20
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-40K for Jagr?
Okay....
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| | | 9 | The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Wed, Nov 16, 2005, 23:30
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All the downward move was from folks pitching whatever they had overboard to pick up Kovalchuk. The fewer people that have Jagr for his next hatty the better.
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| | | 10 | Joelis
ID: 389331817
Wed, Nov 16, 2005, 23:53
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Agreed Beezer. Trading away the top point getter who has 3 in 4 coming up is not how to win this game IMO.
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| | | 11 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Thu, Nov 17, 2005, 01:20
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Moving Labarbera earlier this week may have been a blessing in disguise, as i was able to pick up a some TSNP and a cool +500K on the deal. More importantly however, the trade i burned on him prevented me from making a planned Crosby -> Conroy move the other day, allowing me to capitalize on the Kid's 3 pt night tonight, and giving me more time to evaluate exit options from him.
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| | | 12 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Thu, Nov 17, 2005, 06:20
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Spent a while formulating a plan for the next week... Was real tough, but i think this may work.
Crosby -> Staal/Conroy (Today)
Spezza -> Savard (11/18)
Gagne/Heatley -> Kovalchuk (TBD, probably Sunday)
Grahame -> Labarbera
Planning to keep Forsberg due to his low ownership and propensity to pick up many, many points. Can't decide which of the big East wingers i want to dump for Kovalchuk... I'll have a bit more time to decide. Prospal and Jagr stay until at least next week. I wanted to move Crobsy for Thornton, but the funds just don't work out right... Can't decide between Staal or Conroy. Staal has little to no upside on the RV side of things, but he's a hat trick to happen, a far greater scoring threat than Conroy, in my opinion. Then again, Conroy also plays on a good line and has played well of late... Input on this would nice. As for Labarbera, he should sustain one more day of losses, then rebound when managers find that he's returned from his hiatus. I'm not ready to commit big dollars to my goalies just yet, not with Kovalchuk coming on board and Forsberg still occupying 9m.
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| | | 13 | caribou
ID: 291027310
Thu, Nov 17, 2005, 07:17
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With my two last trades from week 5...
Crosby > Conroy
Oveshkin > Kovalchuk
So Labarvera is back ?
Should I also move Graham > Labarbera
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| | | 14 | caribou
ID: 291027310
Thu, Nov 17, 2005, 07:19
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Sorry....I have Lundquist.....man this sucks. So i'll have to figure out if he or weekes is playing tonight. So if Weekes is playing i'll be picking up Labarbera.
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| | | 15 | Tuques
ID: 57854126
Thu, Nov 17, 2005, 09:09
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Here is some news on Lundquist for tonight caribou
Henrik Lundqvist - G - Rangers
Henrik Lundqvist is likely to get the start in goal tonight against the Hurricanes.
Despite the fact that Kevin Weekes is very familiar with his old team, coach Tom Renney wants to give Carolina a different look with the young Swede. The battle for the number one job in New York rages on. Nov. 17 - 8:32 am et
Source: Newsday
Tuques
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| | | 16 | walk
ID: 236779
Thu, Nov 17, 2005, 09:35
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Source: LA Times
With LaBarbera Gone, Garon Finding a Rhythm
By Jerry Crowe, Times Staff Writer
With Jason LaBarbera still away from the team Wednesday while tending to what the Kings called a family matter, Mathieu Garon is expected to make his fourth consecutive start in goal Thursday night against the Vancouver Canucks.
Which, of course, is perfectly fine with Garon, who won two of the last three while stopping 82 of 89 shots.
The more you play, the easier it gets," said Garon, who stopped 23 shots in Tuesday night's 3-2 loss to the Nashville Predators. "You feel better about each game. You get into a rhythm. Mentally, if you have a bad game, then have to wait to play again, you start thinking too much. Physically, you can work in practice, but it's never going to be like a game situation."
LaBarbera left his teammates behind Monday in Nashville.
"We kind of thought he might be at practice today," Coach Andy Murray said after Wednesday's short workout in El Segundo.
When he wasn't, the Kings again put out a call for minor league goaltender Adam Hauser, who flew in from Manchester, N.H., before Tuesday's game to back up Garon. Hauser was en route back to Manchester on Wednesday when his flight was diverted because of inclement weather. The Kings reached him in Providence, R.I., and summoned him anew. He was due to arrive in Los Angeles late Wednesday.
The Kings weren't sure when LaBarbera would return.
"We want that to be his priority," Murray said of the goaltender's family obligations. "He just needs to deal with that."
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- walk
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| | | 17 | smallwhirled
ID: 171046162
Thu, Nov 17, 2005, 15:40
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Really not that happy with everything right now, but this is the best scenario that I could come up with.
Gagne > Frolov
Dunham > Gerber
Spezza > Savard (tommorrow)
Leaves me with 2 trades and Foppa/Alfie, but out of the Phi/Ott guys, at least I have the 2 most holdable.
Would like to get Jagr for a quick 4 in 6, can't. Would like to fit in Thornton today, can't.
My original move was to get cash from Foppa and then do a full goalie upgrade, but I just can't find the right stud goalie right now. Nothing that jumps out to me, so I just did Gerber for the money. Oh well.
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| | | 18 | TT
ID: 52715301
Thu, Nov 17, 2005, 17:33
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Why not wait till after tomorrow game to go Gagne to Frolov? PHI plays ATL tomorrow, 7 or 8 Philly goes against ATL is not out of the question. Unless you really need the money today to go Grahame to Gerber
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| | | 19 | Joelis
ID: 389331817
Thu, Nov 17, 2005, 18:02
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I don't get why you'd want to punt Gagne before his B2B with ATL and PIT. You know there's a hatty in there somewhere...
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| | | 20 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Thu, Nov 17, 2005, 18:04
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I think I'll go
Spezza>Savard tomorrow
Fosberg>Thornton on Sunday
Then I realized today that Philly, Ottawa & Atlanta all have 3 games this week, so I don't have to move Gagne or Heatley into Kovalchuk until next Thursday, the 24th..
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| | | 21 | smallwhirled
ID: 171046162
Thu, Nov 17, 2005, 20:59
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I need the money.
That extra cash let me get Gerber, and will let me get Savard tommorrow. Believe me, I didn't want to do this but I had to.
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| | | 22 | The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Fri, Nov 18, 2005, 00:44
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Well, I admit it - I got scared and blinked about 10 minutes ago.
Williams -> Connolly
Feel free to join me and make me a million or so. :)
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| | | 23 | caribou
ID: 291027310
Fri, Nov 18, 2005, 07:29
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Who would be the best pick up for a Goalie. I have Lundquist and want to get rid of him...(i already have Legace)
Possibilites are :
Gerber = I think has the best long term sched
MArkanen = I like the teams he plays against
Biron = up and down buffalo team
Garon = With Labarbera coming back....?
Any help would be appreciate. I am having the worst time moving up in the standings !
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| | | 24 | Tuques
ID: 480492816
Fri, Nov 18, 2005, 08:08
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Now what to do with Staal, he left the game last night in the third period... Anyone have some fresh news on the extent of the injury....
caribou I think your best shot is with Markanen, nice sched comming up for 1.5 week..
Tuques
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| | | 25 | smallwhirled
ID: 171046162
Fri, Nov 18, 2005, 10:28
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I don't think people are going to freak out unless there is something concrete that says Staal is out in this case. There are too many trades to be made right now with the Phi/Ott dump.
If something conrete comes out, then obviously, sell him with whatever you got.
Did Spezza > Savard as planned.
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| | | 26 | TT
ID: 52715301
Fri, Nov 18, 2005, 11:28
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Copied smallwhirled and went Spezza --> Savard. Which was definately not in the plans until about yesterday when I read his post.
Also went Heatley --> Kovalchuk. Needless to say, I hope PHI and ATL beat the snot out of each other. I wouldn't mind a score of 11 - 10.
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| | | 27 | Ira
ID: 4210191811
Fri, Nov 18, 2005, 12:21
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I heard Staal was 'hopeful' to play next game..
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| | | 28 | Little M
ID: 13100911
Fri, Nov 18, 2005, 12:46
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Sunday,
Spezza to LeCavalier
Gagne to Prospal.
Spezza to ??? Would like to go to Bertuzzi, but it would mean freeing up some cash.
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| | | 29 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Nov 19, 2005, 13:13
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CAR @NYR already under way, Staal is playing.
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| | | 30 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Nov 19, 2005, 13:28
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1-0, Straka (Jagr, Nylander)
Gerber at -9 TSNP.
;)
(I don't have him.)
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| | | 31 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Nov 19, 2005, 13:33
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Staal ties the game, unassisted, on Jagr's watch so there goes his +1.
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| | | 32 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Sat, Nov 19, 2005, 14:11
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I caved and went
Forsberg>Thornton
Heatley>Kovalchuk
a day early.. I couldn't stand another price hit
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| | | 33 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Nov 19, 2005, 14:24
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gutsy move, esp. Forsberg --> Thornton... You reckon they'll drop significantly seeing they play today? Sometimes this game is just downright strange.
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| | | 34 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Sat, Nov 19, 2005, 15:00
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I had to trade Forsberg to free up the money for Heatley>Kovalchuk... Heatley was -110K last night, that's who I am scared of tonight..
And between Thornton and Forsberg, I think they've been playin pretty equally lately
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| | | 35 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Nov 19, 2005, 15:13
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Flyers play the defenseless 'uins.
Bruins play the Sabres, backstopped by Mika "The Cougar" Noronen.
Forsberg's average, last 7 days: 41,5 TSNP.
Thornton's average, last 7 days: 9,5 TSNP.
Did I mention "The Cougar" -aspect already?
=)
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| | | 36 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Sat, Nov 19, 2005, 15:34
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Yes. It really scares me that a whopping 9 teams have allowed more goals that Buffalo. Buffalo is a defence powerhouse with your cougar goalie and his powerful 7.37 GAA and .765 SV%...
He should be in top form playing only 1 game all season.
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| | | 37 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Nov 19, 2005, 15:36
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...of which he played a mere half. He hasn't started a game since spring 2004. Which means he will be hungry. Feeling sorry for the Bruins already.
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| | | 38 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Nov 19, 2005, 15:47
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Jagr 71 TSNP
Staal 41 TSNP
Gerber 4 TSNP
Nylander 104 TSNP
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| | | 39 | C.SuperFreak
Sustainer
ID: 053771616
Sun, Nov 20, 2005, 00:09
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Okay, I lost a lot of $ but managed to get 284 points from my money losers. Time to trade my sens and flyers.
Problem is that most of the RV has been made and I'm stuck with leftovers.
Wing:
Gagne->Prospal
Heatly->Bertuzzi, or Tanguay
Center:
Spezza-> Thornton, Conroy, or a player from some team that's playing the next 2 in 3.
Option 3 would involve trading again to pick up a Leaf at center for their upcoming 6/9 but I don't think it's worth 2 trades. 8/11 seems tempting....
Boston has a strong schedule and Thornton would be a good fit if and when Boston could turn it around.
Decisions decisions...I better sleep on it.
11/25 Jagr->Heatly
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| | | 40 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Sun, Nov 20, 2005, 00:49
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Heatley -> Frolov
Gagne -> Kovalchuk
Both money moves.
Is anyone looking at McCabe for his 7 in 11 (or 5 in 7)?
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| | | 41 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Sun, Nov 20, 2005, 01:05
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The only problem with McCabe is that he's a short ride. He's only got a 4 in 15 after that, would you plan on holding during that?
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| | | 42 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Sun, Nov 20, 2005, 01:25
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No, i agree it would be a short ride, but the potential TSNP spike he could provide may be worth it. I guess it depends on ones RV situation, how many trades it would take to allocate the funds needed for a 6m D-man, and if you can afford to burn the trades needed to get in and out...
IMO, a comination of Svatos/McCabe beats Prospal/Cheap D, but this isn't a long term situation, and could hurt a team in the long run. I don't think it will work in my plans, but someone else might gamble on it...
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| | | 43 | C.SuperFreak
Sustainer
ID: 053771616
Sun, Nov 20, 2005, 01:41
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How you view McCabe comes down to how you interpret the schedule, which looks good for McCabe but really just comes up as a wash. I think I'll keep Pitakanen.
As of Nov 20th
Week 6:
McCabe - 1 game
Pitkanen - 1 game
Week 7:
McCabe - 4 games
Pitaken - 4 games
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| | | 44 | C.SuperFreak
Sustainer
ID: 053771616
Sun, Nov 20, 2005, 01:44
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Pitkanen has 4 games too. Pitaken has yet to be IPO'd.
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| | | 45 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Sun, Nov 20, 2005, 01:45
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I didn't quite mean Pitkanen when i used the term "Cheap D", more along the lines of a Baumgartner or Gleason, for those in that position. I wouldn't ever reccommend dropping a Pitkanen or Visnovsky calibre player in this scenario.
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| | | 46 | C.SuperFreak
Sustainer
ID: 053771616
Sun, Nov 20, 2005, 01:54
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agh, my bad for being so shortsighted. Seems to be a common occurence for me this year.
After re-examining my team it would be an improvement for my lethargic d.
I may consider it. I'll gladly step up and be the guinea pig for this experiment.
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| | | 47 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Sun, Nov 20, 2005, 02:45
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Been thinking of it too. Right now my options would be:
Today: Gagne -> Frolov
Today: Heatley -> Jagr
Wednesday: Zhitnik -> Mccabe for his 7 in 11
Or as I had planned,
Today: Gagne -> Prospal
Today: Heatley -> Jagr
and just bank the other trade.
By going with option 2, if Labs is back in action, with the new trades I could downgrade the mediocre Legace and uprade to Mccabe for his Friday game and get his 6 in 9.
I think Jagr is a must, so Prospal/Frolov is out of the question there. Also, Prospal should make the most money now that his schedule is kickin for 8 days. (5 games) Annoyingly, I can't swing Mccabe/Jagr/Prospal, short by about 800k.
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| | | 48 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Sun, Nov 20, 2005, 08:33
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Upon further review, it doesn't seem like i'd be able to get McCabe even if i wanted to without some serious furniture rearranging... Go for it CSF if you think it'll be beneficial for you. If you hold for the 7/11, you'll get two HNIC games, and Toronto usually goes big in those.
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| | | 49 | Tuques
ID: 480492816
Sun, Nov 20, 2005, 09:05
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This morning I did Gagne to Prospal, and Van Ryne to Slegr....
This leaves me with 2 trades and 2 NYR guys that will need to go next sunday....
Tuques
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| | | 50 | The Beezer
ID: 265172712
Sun, Nov 20, 2005, 09:36
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Gagne -> Prospal and I should be done for the week. I was surprised to see Kipper drop so much but I don't see another option I like much so I'm holding him for now. He's on my watch list though. 6 trades left and $4m in the bank so I've got some flexibility going forward.
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| | | 51 | Destroy*
ID: 35958308
Sun, Nov 20, 2005, 11:30
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Good Sunday morning to all!!!
I'm trading:
GAGNE-->BERTUZZI
GARON-->CLOUTIER
Go Canucks Go!!!
I'm keeping Kippy as no better option to me!
Have a good day!
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| | | 52 | CrazyClowns
ID: 37924214
Sun, Nov 20, 2005, 15:11
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late on all good options, and Im stuck at 25 th on division so I made a few differentiation moves.
Gagne=>Naslund
Forsberg=>Thornton
Williams (planning to hold him but his less than 10 min a game playing time sunk his ship) => Lecavalier
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| | | 53 | caribou
ID: 451042017
Sun, Nov 20, 2005, 18:16
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Just did
Gagné > Prospal
I'll try to keep up with the popularity moves !!!
Hopefully it can make me move up in the standings
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| | | 54 | urkel
ID: 33950610
Sun, Nov 20, 2005, 18:49
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Gagne > Prospal x 2
Gagne > Bertuzzi x 1
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| | | 55 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Sun, Nov 20, 2005, 19:49
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I did what caribou did
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| | | 56 | CrazyClowns
ID: 37924214
Sun, Nov 20, 2005, 23:31
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Staal era is over IMHO.
Went Staal=>Demitra,
1 trade left
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| | | 57 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 00:20
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I'm 30K short for that move, which is incredibly frustrating. If there's a lot of movement on Staal then i may have to look to Conroy instead. Or hold, which wouldn't make me happy as it's been hard enough lately trying to make RV.
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| | | 58 | TT
ID: 52715301
Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 01:08
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Tell me again why the Staal era is over?
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| | | 59 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 09:24
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Because he had -8 last night, everybody run for the hills!!!! lol
I'm holding.
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| | | 60 | CrazyClowns
ID: 5195166
Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 11:42
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Because the 25th ranked player in the division says so!
41pts/game since the beginning of November isnt anything spectacular. With his high ownership, his relative lack of performance and his 'huge' two-day hole in the schedule, my magic ball tells me a lot of people will get on the plank and jump off ship. IMHO, Staal has way overachieved since the beginning of the year, and Kappa is gonna get to him sooner rather than later.
I'm usually not too trigger happy, but I have a bad feeling.
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| | | 61 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 12:34
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Just outta curiosity, does anyone else have a player since the very beginning?
I've held on to Ric Jackman since October 3rd.
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| | | 62 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 12:43
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i've had Ohlund since day 1
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| | | 63 | Larzino
ID: 27946414
Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 12:47
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Yes, Visnovsky since October 4th
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| | | 64 | CrazyClowns
ID: 5195166
Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 13:25
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Had Williams until yesterday.
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| | | 65 | Tuques@formation
ID: 3910562112
Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 15:32
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I had Williams myself until last week from the begenning, but when I saw is ice time going down pretty badly like CrazyClowns just said I decided that it was time to leave the boat before it sinks...
Tuques
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| | | 66 | smallwhirled
ID: 171046162
Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 16:12
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I did Staal > Demitra today. Will it come back to haunt me, probably, but I always play for the RV, can't let one guy make me change how I always play.
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| | | 67 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 18:18
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alright, I lied....Staal-->Demitra!!!!
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| | | 68 | TT
ID: 52715301
Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 18:31
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Fine!! Staal to Demitra.
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| | | 69 | Joelis
ID: 389331817
Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 18:40
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Are you guys trying to be Lemmings or what ?
You're going to waste a trade like this for ONE extra game ?
In yesterday's -8 game for Staal, he still had over 20 minutes of ice time, played the majority of the 9 minutes of PP time, so he doesn't look to be suffering from any injury.
Are you the same guys who also dumped Jagr after a slow game?
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| | | 70 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 19:17
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I completely agree with you Joelis :(
But I got greedy and want $$$$$
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| | | 71 | ny studs
ID: 481029188
Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 19:41
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Any word on when Labarbera (yes, he's still on my team) could be back? I've looked on a bunch of websites but haven't been able to find any news.
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| | | 72 | CrazyClowns
ID: 37924214
Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 19:44
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No, Jagr is still a proud member of the CrazyClowns.
Glad to see a bottom-feeder like me can still move the market...
But $$$ wise, Staal has topped-off. With Monday usually a low-volume trading day, Demitra should notch up over 100k. And since its still greenback hunting season, no more staalling.
From now until RV is at a comfortable level, I think I will try to concentrate my trades on sunday and monday to try to maximize RV gain. It netted me 570k yesterday with players having heavy schedules at the beginning of the week. Anybody thinking along the same lines?
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| | | 73 | smallwhirled
ID: 171046162
Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 22:05
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Yeah, this is just my style of playing.....in fact, there is a really good chance that Staal goes on another big tear.
For some reason, I try to not look at my team as just players, and I try to think of it as a whole, and I usually don't get too attached to a player. More times than not, the early sell pans out for me but we will see.
CrazyClowns, this is a strategy that I have been using successfully for years. The "late week" trading cycle is where the money is gained. Especially aa we move along because you are already seeing people stop worrying about RV, and I just think it's too early.
Trading out of people early has some drawbacks, but I think the rewards of doing it are worth it.
One good way to check is how many trades are you making on a normal Thursday to cover up last week's mistakes? If you are not having to use trades when they come out, you are ahead of the game IMO. Lately, I've been running out of trades too early and losing RV gains in the process.
I just need to try and bank a couple of trades.
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| | | 74 | urkel
ID: 289950
Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 23:19
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darnit you guys are killing me. I didn't see this Staal drop coming, because I didn't come in this thread until just now.
If I'd seen this thread I would have gone Staal>Demitra on the one team that I don't already have him on. Oh well.
Now I'm wondering what to do tomorrow. I think at this point I have to hold and hope for a big game from him tomorrow.
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| | | 75 | urkel
ID: 289950
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 00:40
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Hmmm...
looks like I can finally get rid of my dud Ryan Whitney on 2 teams. Usually I wait to trade for a player who has just returned from injury, but in this case Whitney has done nothing for me and I want to be sure to be on the Desjardins money train from the start. I'll probably even do it on my other team that has Zhitnik.
I'll definitely wait to see if there is any change in the news though.
Flyers Gain Two, Lose Two
Desjardins and Kapanen to Return; Savage and Seidenberg Out
UPDATE: Monday, Nov. 21, 5:00 p.m.
Voorhees, NJ – It was a good news-bad news day at the Sovereign Bank Flyers Skate Zone, as Sami Kapanen will be back in the lineup on Saturday and Eric Desjardins will return on Tuesday when the Flyers face the Tampa Bay Lightning. Unfortunately, however, Dennis Seidenberg and Brian Savage will be out of the lineup with a broken wrist and a sprained knee, respectively.
On Eric Desjardins:
JM: “Eric Desjardins was seen by doctor Gerri McGuinnes, Ph.D. at Jefferson Hospital in Philadelphia, who conducted his neuro-psyche testing. Following that he was seen by our team physician, Dr. Gary Dorshimer. Dr. Dorshimer cleared him to resume full activity, which means he has been cleared to play [Tuesday].”
Also see Comcast link
Anyone else planning on picking up Desjardins tomorrow?
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| | | 76 | The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 05:49
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Since I've got a slot that is practically useless right now (Daley is pretty much just a slot-filler) and it doesn't hurt any other planned moves, I'm picking him up just to grab the money.
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| | | 77 | caribou
ID: 291027310
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 08:20
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Tuques, if you trade Staal today, will go against your principles ! That is not to trade a player that is playing the same day. Good luck.
What do you guys think about Steve Shields (from Atl)...Could he be a good pick up ?
Steve Shields will return from his injury and start tonight versus the Canadiens.
Shields' right knee was deemed healthy enough to play by team Doctors yesterday. The team hopes the veteran goalie can add some consistency to the position. However, the netminder did not have stellar stats during his 3 games played before the injury: 4.69 GAA and .837 save percentage. Nov. 22 - 7:48 am et
Source: Atlanta Journal-Constitution
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| | | 78 | urkel
ID: 289950
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 09:10
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Interesting about Shields. I'm probably going to need to dump Markkanen due to a rumour posted on the other board about McTavish:
Craig McTavish (Oiler coach) said today before the game that "I love to ride hot goaltenders. Earlier in the year we rode Markannen, I'd love to ride Morrison (Oilers backup goalie)." Including todays game, that makes Morrison 2 - 0. Then again with Conklin coming back it is also possible Morrison gets sent down. Might be something worth keeping an eye on if you have Markannen.
I'm thinking about LaBarbera though, or finally upgrading to Gerber. Shields might be worth a gamble though, he's a better goaltender than the earlier stats indicate. 3 games is not enough to determine the value of a goaltender, especially one who is new to, and adjusting to, the team, never mind a whole new NHL.
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| | | 79 | Tuques@formation
ID: 3910562112
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 09:11
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I know caribou if I trade Staal today I'm missing his game againt my Sens tonight and I already have Hasek, so a huge night for Staal can be equivalent to a negative night from Hasek...
This morning, after last night discussion with caribou I decided to trade Straka (who is playing tonight) for Savard, I couldn't miss on Atlanta's schedule for the next 3 weeks, the play something like 9 games without any 2 day spam, I was going to trade Straka on Sunday anyway, and I'm quite sure Savard should outpoint Straka in from today to Sunday...
Regarding Shields, he could be a really good pick if he can put something like 2-3 good games in a row, toss a SO in the mix and you have the next train leaving the station at 1 million... I'm looking at this option at the moment, I might trade Legace for Shields and hope for 2-3 good night in a row and I'll be more then happy... But on the flip side, if he gets blown away tonight againts the Habs he might not even start the next game...
Anyone with some news on Dunham, if he's going to be back in a couple of days then Shields is not even an option....
Tuques
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| | | 80 | urkel
ID: 289950
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 09:18
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re: 76
Yeah Whitney is a slot filler right now too, and one who is actually more expensive than Desjardins. So the move actually frees up some RV for me. :)
Zhitnik is not a slot filler but he would probably need to go after Saturday anyways due to his team's upcoming 1 in 8, so I'll likely trade him as well.
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| | | 81 | Tuques@formation
ID: 3910562112
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 09:21
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I just read that Dunham is not due back until mid-December :
Michael Garnett - Goalie
Michael Garnett will start tonight versus Philadelphia.
Adam Berkhoel is the likely starter for Saturday's game in Toronto. Atlanta is carrying 6 goalies at the moment. Veteran Steve Shields should be ready for Thanksgiving weekend. Unfortunately, an MRI revealed a slight tear in Mike Dunham's groin, which means he will be out until mid-December. Nov. 18 - 8:00 am et
Source: Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Tuques
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| | | 82 | urkel
ID: 289950
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 09:44
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Thanks for that, tuques.
Shields is looking better and better as a replacement for Markkanen.
If he can be ANY improvement at all over Berkhoel, he will pick up wins in Atlanta, with the way Kovalchuk and Co. are playing, and he should have a lot of kicks at the can with the dense schedule Atlanta has over the next few weeks.
One caution's got to be Lehtonen's status though, wasn't he slated back around now? He'll have to play a couple of AHL games first I imagine, but it could make for a short-lived stint at #1.
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| | | 83 | urkel
ID: 289950
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 09:45
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short-lived stint at #1 for Shields I mean.
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| | | 84 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 10:17
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As a Thrashers fan, seeing Sheilds play 3 times this season, I would completely advise against it!!!!
Berkhoel is gonna get starts mixed in, and as bad as he's been (well, I shouldn't say he's bad, he's just not NHL-ready yet) I don't think Shields is any better.
He may win some 6-5 games, but he may also lose some 6-5 games.
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| | | 85 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 12:07
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man oh man...
Both my goalies (Kipper & Markkanen) got benched last night, and both their backups played excellent.
And I have Staal.
And I have 1 trade left.
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| | | 86 | CrazyClowns
ID: 5195166
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 12:50
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IMHO, Kipper is a Keeper.
I have Markannen and if there were other cheap interesting options out there, he would be gone.
And Staal, well. I still advocate throwing him overboard, but since he's playing tonight, you probably will not see a huge selloff.
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| | | 87 | chipsnbeer
ID: 55721617
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 12:59
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I traded away Kiprusoff after owning him since the streak started. They have two more home games then off to the road again for another stretch. He doesn't play nearly as well on the road and one reason Sutter went with Sauve last night. I went to Vocoun.
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| | | 88 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 13:32
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I went Staal>Demitra...
Once I get my new trades, I'll send Markkanen packin.. I just can't see him getting many starts in the near future with Morrison playing so well, and Conklin set to return.
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| | | 89 | Tuques@formation
ID: 3910562112
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 14:20
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I just can't convinced myself that Demitra will outpoint Staal tonight, there is no dought in my mind that Demitra is going to make much more money gain, but Staal can outproduce Pavel....
I'll probably do the move with my last trade and one reason that would force me to do so is the fact that I have Hasek....
Tuques
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| | | 90 | ny studs
ID: 610502120
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 14:39
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Given a choice of these Ducks, who would you choose: Lupul or Rob Niedermeyer?
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| | | 91 | Die_Habs
ID: 26211512
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 14:49
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The question I want to ask is how else do you guys have @ centre?
On most of my teams I have demitra, savard and staal. I wanted to hold onto staal until his atl games, but now I don't really want to lose the RV.
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| | | 92 | CrazyClowns
ID: 5195166
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 15:30
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Demitra
Thornton
Lecavalier
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| | | 93 | caribou
ID: 291027310
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 15:46
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Conroy
Connolly
ConLecavalier
I like the con....
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| | | 94 | Rick007
ID: 23151226
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 16:11
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Demitra
Thornton
Datsyuk
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| | | 95 | The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 17:17
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Conroy
Connolly
ConSavard
I like your thinking caribou...
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| | | 96 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 17:51
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Demitra
Thornton
ConSavard :)
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| | | 97 | smallwhirled
ID: 3010352217
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 18:37
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Forsberg
Savard
Demitra
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| | | 98 | smallwhirled
ID: 3010352217
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 18:42
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For Markannen, I have a pegged sell after his @cgy game on the 25th. I don't really have much of a use for him anymore after that game, his sked kinda goes downhill from there.
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| | | 99 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 19:35
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Bergfors
Vardsav
Roycon
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| | | 100 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 19:48
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Conmetra
Convalier
Conezza
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| | | 102 | walk
ID: 61049120
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 21:51
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Oh! I just watched the best shootout ever. Rangers beat Buffalo 3-2 in which every shooter scored except the last one. Buffalo even changed goalies (Noronen to Biron) during the shootout due to injury. It was sooo very cool.
- walk
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| | | 103 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 22:00
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Ok, i need Pavol Demitra on my team. I was 30K from glory... Just 30-stinkin'-K... Ugh.
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| | | 104 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 22:20
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Nice shootout in Mtl too, Theo stoned 3 straight Thrashers and Pierre Dagenais scored to win it. Lets repeat that, PIERRE DAGENAIS scored. Wtf was he doing in the shootout? was all I could ask, right up until he scored. Guess thats why I'm not an NHL coach... ;)
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| | | 105 | bar
ID: 3710351811
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 22:49
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Created a goal estimation calculator maritechnologies.com/hockey Based on average goals for and opponent's average goals against.
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| | | 106 | CrazyClowns
ID: 37924214
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 23:04
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Dagenais has got a hell of a shot. Problem is that he just cant skate and he cant use his big body. I mean when the zamboni is clearing the ice after the game, they have to zig zag around him. He had a good season two years ago, but he's no longer able to keep up with the new rythym.
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| | | 107 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 23:46
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I think I'm going to have to move Forsberg for Demitra when we refresh. Demitra's got stupid money coming his way from all sorts of Centers... Foppa's just taking up too much of my funds right now.
That means ill be running with 4 Kings, possibly 5 if LaBarbera factors himself into the mix. I don't think that's too many conisdering the type of high scoring team LA has. They also have a favorable schedule until 12/10. It'll feel almost like old times where one hot team would command 5 or even 6 of your teams spots at any given time.
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| | | 108 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 00:31
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I'm hopin LaBarbera gets back so I can move Markkanen to him, and then upgrade Vorobiev (yes, I still have him).
Although with Garon's play lately, I can't see LaBarbera getting the majority of the starts in the near future..
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| | | 109 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 01:00
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Geez. Every day I have a real high price gainer, and then had a real high price loser to even it out.
eg. Tonight: Demitra +160K, Markkanen -90K, Kiprusoff -30K.
If I only had my gainers, my team would have gained 300K. But nooooo, I end up with 150K.
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| | | 110 | samuli
ID: 17925182
Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 06:03
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I'm not in a hurry to get rid of Staal, seeing how the previous "mass-hysteria" (dumping Jagr in the middle of his sweet stretch of schedule) worked out for those who did it (I aknowledge that individual situations might vary and that some managers might have gained points as well as $ as a result of that trade, but looking at the numbers, Jagr has accumulated 472 TSNP in his last 6 games).
I have Savard and Demitra, and see no one I'd like to replace Staal with. But if push comes to shove, I might move back to Spezza or Forsberg eventually.
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| | | 111 | Die_Habs
ID: 26211512
Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 07:43
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Moved into Ray Emery from Abesicher(bum), going with the cheap d-men approach except in my goalie slot.
I was able to upgrade Ehrhoff to McCabe. I have more confidence in this approach then trying to find a goalie.
Holding Staal. Not making any money the last week or so for some reason.
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| | | 112 | Tuques@formation
ID: 3910562112
Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 09:14
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This morning after baching my head into the wall for 45 minutes, I decided to go from Staal to Demitra, if I could have done it yesterday instead, I would have got the money and the pts, at least Staal procuded a little....
Tuques
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| | | 113 | urkel
ID: 289950
Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 09:49
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I also had Staal, Demitra, and Savard, and will also be holding Staal. No compelling alternatives at the moment, especially when Staal is doing fine.
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| | | 114 | urkel
ID: 289950
Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 09:57
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I wonder if Grahame is still the #1 in TB?
I hate the goalie slot this year. I might end up going to Emery also.
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| | | 115 | urkel
ID: 289950
Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 09:57
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Markkanen > Emery that is.
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| | | 116 | CrazyClowns
ID: 5195166
Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 11:04
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Burke is getting more and more starts and he's doing rather well. Cookie Graham has been on my roster 3 times so far this year, and I hope I wont make the stupid mistake of taking him another time.
Anybody thinking about Joseph? He's not a very sexy pick, but he gets most of the starts and gets the job done.
Desjardins: Jump aboard? He should be good for a 500k plus gain, even if Philly schedule is not the most exciting. Might trade Redden out, which would allow me to free some money to move out of Markannen tomorrow.
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| | | 117 | Tuques@formation
ID: 3910562112
Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 11:20
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What is the big deal about Emery?? Ottawa's sched is not the best for the next couple of weeks, so why would people jump a backup goaly with a bad schedule???
Tuques
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| | | 118 | Die_Habs
ID: 26211512
Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 12:12
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Tuques - Its a place holder right now, forunately Emery will get some starts and he is undefeated to date.
The strategy and thinking is that since it has been more difficult to find pts out of goalies this year, to utilize one goal spot for a cheapy 500k player (in this case emery) and spend the dollars elsewhere to gain more points.
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| | | 119 | Tuques@formation
ID: 3910562112
Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 12:38
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This strategy reffers to what I was saying before the beggenning of the season... See this thread : link
Tuques
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| | | 120 | caribou
ID: 291027310
Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 14:05
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Tuques, you had it all planned out right from the beginning !
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| | | 121 | Die_Habs
ID: 26211512
Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 14:06
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Tuques - you are correct. I had read that thread but did not remember that you started it. Going to test this out and see what happens, emery is the best 500k option out there.
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| | | 122 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 14:30
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Just made this move:
R9 -> smallwhirled
I like the longterm production better, and the track records obviously makes this a no-brainer.
!!!
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| | | 123 | walk
ID: 236779
Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 14:37
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Yeah, except you'd have to tolerate a few hangovers here and there...aaaar. Nice trade!
I guess, for now, I'm holding.
- walk
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| | | 124 | smallwhirled
ID: 3010352217
Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 18:08
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I think I'm also doing the Emery plan. I'm in no man's land in too many places with any other combination, and believe me, I've worked out a ton of them. This makes the most sense for me, it will be a trade saver too. Once I get tired of Gerber, which may be soon, hopefully I'll be able to get something pretty decent from that point. At least I'll be able to go 3 stud Dmen now, real stud Dmen (getting rid of over the hill Lidstrom).
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| | | 125 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 19:43
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Once Labarbera returns, wouldn't he be a better version of Emery?
He's around the same price, and will like twice as many games...
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| | | 126 | CrazyClowns
ID: 37924214
Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 20:47
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Gaborik is back, already 1g, 1a throught the first period.
Starting next wednesday, is schedule gets pretty hot, while a lot of other team's go downhill. For 5M$, he should be a very nice pickup.
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| | | 127 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 21:16
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Jagr>Hossa on Sunday
Jagr has a 4 day break, but then the Rangers have a 6 in 10...
Prospal>Gaborik on Sunday
Prospal will have 4 in 16, and Gaborik will have 11 in 21.
Ottawa has a 6 day break next week, so I'm movin Markkanen to Labarbera
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| | | 128 | The Beezer
ID: 16913307
Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 21:51
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Important note: due to the hurricane reschedule, Ottawa does not have a 6 day break, since they play Florida on 12/3. FYI.
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| | | 129 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 21:54
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1 in 5 is still brutal..
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| | | 130 | C.SuperFreak
Sustainer
ID: 053771616
Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 22:35
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An ugly night pointwise, not a good way to end to Week 6. In no particular order here are my decisions for Week 7:
- Which goalie to move into
- What to do with Jagr
- Ottawa or Philly
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| | | 131 | CrazyClowns
ID: 37924214
Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 23:25
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Jagr is easy:
Out and In, since it will likely be a 500k loss, especially when you consider that you dump him on a saturday. At this point, I'm willing to sacrifice a trade for the RV. He's gonna represent a whole chunk'o'trades come sunday and monday.
Ottawa and Philly? I would say neither, unless you currently have some on your roster, which I doubt. Too much volatility for too few games. I could see hanging on to Pitkanen, but at the first sign of trouble, he's gone (or would be since he's not on my team). I just picked up Desjardins for the $$$ and maybe decent cheap-d points.
Goalies? Beats me. I'm even looking at Joseph at this point...
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| | | 132 | smallwhirled
ID: 3010352217
Thu, Nov 24, 2005, 10:06
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How crazy is a team goalie situation? Emery + Hasek is 7.61 right now, but that would pretty much lock in goalie letting me play around with my other 10 spots more frequently.....
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