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| Posted by: Ira
- [401017811] Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 23:41
well, that Pitkanen drop totally caught me off guard.. I guess I wasn't paying enough attention to expect it.
I guess I'll go Pitkanen>Visnovsky for long term.
Jagr>Hossa on Sunday (Or do we make in Saturday?)
Jagr has a 4 day break, but then the Rangers have a 6 in 10...
Prospal>Gaborik on Sunday
Prospal will have 4 in 16, and Gaborik will have 11 in 21.
Ottawa has a 1 in 5 stretch next week, so I'm movin Markkanen to Labarbera.. |
| | | 1 | C.SuperFreak
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ID: 053771616
Thu, Nov 24, 2005, 00:20
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Fri: Jagr->Heatly, Alfie or Gagne
Prospal->Frolov, or Gaborik
All my useless goalies->Labarbera
Ottawa has a 5 in 8.
A Jagr-Heatly-Jagr flip nets a 7 in 10 but miss the jagr vs wash and pitt games.
A Jagr-Gagne-Jagr nets a 7 in 10 and Jagr only misses the washington game.
Only problem is that it's 2 trades for such a vital short term move.
Decisions decisions.
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| | | 2 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Thu, Nov 24, 2005, 00:35
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actually,
Jagr>Gagne>Jagr would look really nice to gain 4 games in 6 days.
I hate using 2 trades for a 6-day player :(
Just remembered I have Vorobiev.
So I'll go Vorobiev>Svatos.
As for Pitkanen, will he continue to drop? He's been playing amazing lately, but if I have to trade him to Visnovsky or McCabe, then I will.
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| | | 3 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Thu, Nov 24, 2005, 07:34
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I think a lot managers are going to be wrestling with the Jagr -> Heatley/Gagne dilemma.
Gagne has more big game potential, IMO, and getting him assures a return trip to Jagr in time for a game against Pittsburgh, which could yield limitless possibilities. But then, Heatley is arguably more consistent and less of a threat to put up a plus/minus stinker.
I'll think about that one, in the meantime:
Forsberg -> Demitra (11/24)
Jagr -> Heatley/Gagne (11/25)
Baumgartner -> McCabe (11/25)
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| | | 4 | Tuques
ID: 57854126
Thu, Nov 24, 2005, 08:19
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I'm planning to go with Frolov from Tanguay.... But I'm also looking at Bondra from Tranguay, Atlanta's sched is just too nice to pass by.....
Tuques
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| | | 5 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Thu, Nov 24, 2005, 09:51
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I'll probably do
Jagr --> Gagne
Näslund --> Jagr
Works better than Jagr-Gagne-Jagr or Jagr-Heatly-Jagr
Gaborik is enticing as well... I think I'd like to have at least 2 more winger-slots.
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| | | 6 | Joelis
ID: 389331817
Thu, Nov 24, 2005, 13:03
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Pitkanen took a big RV hit due to a low trading day yesterday. If you let him go today (seeing that he has 4 games this week) it will be a wasted trade, as he won't go down much at all today (other than the lemming movers).
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| | | 7 | Joelis
ID: 389331817
Thu, Nov 24, 2005, 13:06
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I sure hate to give up Jagr tomorrow before the Wash game, but he will start the big slide then.
Having Gagne for 4 compared to Jagr's 1 makes it a bit easier to take though.
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| | | 8 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Thu, Nov 24, 2005, 13:24
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Joelis
I traded Pitkanen for Visnovsky this morning :(
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| | | 9 | Die_Habs
ID: 26211512
Thu, Nov 24, 2005, 13:26
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I can't miss the Jagr - WAS game. I am ignoring the b2b games for OTT and PHI except going Prospal to Gagne. I see myself going with some OTT guys for there 3 in 4 on the 29th.
Looking at going Jagr - Hossa or Plaffy.
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| | | 10 | smallwhirled
ID: 3010352217
Thu, Nov 24, 2005, 14:30
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Joelis is right.
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| | | 11 | urkel
ID: 289950
Thu, Nov 24, 2005, 16:59
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holding Pitkanen.
Will probably go Jagr > Gagne tomorrow, not sure yet how I'm going to get Jagr back, probably from Gagne I guess.
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| | | 12 | CrazyClowns
ID: 37924214
Thu, Nov 24, 2005, 20:01
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Cloutier is out for at least 3 games.
Auld anyone? Beats Emery in the cheap goalie option. Could necessitate another trade soon though.
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| | | 13 | smallwhirled
ID: 3010352217
Thu, Nov 24, 2005, 20:19
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I ended up going Prospal > Gagne today. Truthfully, I'm just pissed off at Prospal's recent production. Other than that, I am going with team goalie. I committed to Emery yesterday, might have been a day premature with LaBarbera/Auld options now, but I just went with it. If Hasek is starting tommorrow, I'll pick him up. If not, I'll get him the next day.
Other than that my plans are all laid out, and I decided to not get McCabe just yet. I just can't pay 6 mil for a Dman right just because I am studded out in every other spot.
Hopefully this will be a trade conservaion week. I have 2 planned ones right now with 5 in the bank, we'll see though, it never seems to work out the way we plan it.
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| | | 14 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Thu, Nov 24, 2005, 20:48
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Just wondering if those buying Gagne are thinking long term hold?
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| | | 15 | smallwhirled
ID: 3010352217
Thu, Nov 24, 2005, 20:54
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No, short term for me.
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| | | 16 | Die_Habs
ID: 446102223
Thu, Nov 24, 2005, 21:53
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Moved propspal > Gagne x 2 Heatley x 1 this afternoon.
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| | | 17 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 00:21
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shat, my theory happened again tonight...
I get someone that loses 100K every night...
Last night, Pitkanen. Tonight, Prospal.
Tampa's got 2 games in the next 3 days, one of them being against Pittsburgh, why drop now?
I could move Prospal to Hossa now, but then when I move Jagr to Gaborik, Gaborik will have 3 days before his next game... frick, I guess I'll just hold on to Prospal for 3 days..
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| | | 18 | The Beezer
ID: 16913307
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 08:37
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Jagr->Gagne today to pick up 3 games and get a healthy financial bounce before I go back to Jagr on 12/1. That's a good investment of trades the way I see it.
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| | | 19 | Little M
ID: 13100911
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 09:32
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Reminder that games start at noon Eastern today, so get your moves in early.
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| | | 20 | Die_Habs
ID: 26211512
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 09:33
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I moved Jagr today x 3.
You all convinced me, now watch him get a hat trick.
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| | | 21 | bar
ID: 3710351811
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 10:12
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Just a reminder to get your trades in early. Due to the American Thanksgiving some games start as early as 12 today.
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| | | 22 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 10:29
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I'm not a fan of questions like this but would ya'll go
De Vries --> Desjardins
in hunt for $? Looks like a stupid move on paper but Thrashers are no strangers to getting trashed, and Greg's "-4 for -40 TSNP" yesterday might make the owners look elsewhere. There should be a decent sum to be made on Eric Desjardins as he seems to be healthy and back to his old PT already in his first game back. Hmmm...
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| | | 23 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 11:59
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I am one of those that hates making "D" trades, Desjardins will gain but not a lot immediately, De Vries might also take some losses. I would likely hold until I could make a bigger upgrade and save the trade.
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| | | 24 | samuli
ID: 51052511
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 12:07
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Already did it anyway. Could have got Pitkänen (who I dumped for McCabe a few days ago) back but as his money-making potential is less, went with Desjardins. Thanks for your take on the situation.
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| | | 25 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 12:07
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does this mean Jagr's going to lose huge money tonight and tomorrow night?
I'd rather have him for his game tomorrow against Washington, but if I have to move him to Hossa, than I will..
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| | | 26 | samuli
ID: 51052511
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 12:09
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Jagr's definitely going to lose his shirt starting today, I'm guessing -160k today.
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| | | 27 | smallwhirled
ID: 3010352217
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 13:02
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Jagr's will lose a lot, heavily owned with a 1 in 6 without another bigtime loser that I can see.
Gerber > Hasek since Hasek is probable. I have the Ott goalie combo, but now I'm in a trade conservation mode hopefully.
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| | | 28 | chipsnbeer
ID: 55721617
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 13:13
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It's suprising to see some of these drops in value from last night. Staal, Gagne, Jagr, Pitkanen ? The bandwagoners make absolutely no sense. They must be far behind and acting deparately.
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| | | 29 | samuli
ID: 51052511
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 13:27
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I'm thinking I should've dumped Savard for Forsberg... Anyone else?
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| | | 30 | walk
ID: 4110372512
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 13:37
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Atlanta is very inconsistent, and Savard and Ilya could go crazy on any given game. Given that they have a great sched through December, I'd hold, but Forsberg is a god, and his 4 in 6 is quite enticing. I have Foppa on both of my teams; a long-term hold and Savard on one of them, too (Demitra on the other).
- walk
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| | | 31 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 13:44
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good lord, Forsberg with 3 goals in the 2nd period already today (and an assist)
Gagne's got a goal and 2 ass's
I'm wondering if its too late to go Vinny-->Forsberg tomorrow :(
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| | | 32 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 14:07
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ok, now it looks like the changed the first goal in the 2nd pd to Desjardins. So, just 2 goals and an assist for Forsberg. And apparently he's got a groin issue.
Maybe he's been hanging out with the Thrashers goalies too much?
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| | | 33 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 14:10
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Is it true that Steve Shields hurt is groin again, also? That's ridiculous, is it something in the tap-water there? I can't wait to see Jani Hurme back on ice, it's been a while.
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| | | 34 | Die_Habs
ID: 26211512
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 14:20
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groin problem with Forsberg? Has he played any in the 3rd? This might make me feel better for not picking him up.
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| | | 35 | caribou
ID: 481047257
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 15:07
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Just got shafted with the afternoon games....
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| | | 36 | C.SuperFreak
Sustainer
ID: 53771616
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 15:07
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FAQ, meetings this morning and I missed Gagne. Here's hoping for big points from Heatley.
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| | | 37 | Little M
ID: 13100911
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 15:44
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Re Post 34: From ESPN
Peter Forsberg scored two goals and added an assist before sitting out the third period with a right groin strain as the Philadelphia Flyers beat the Boston Bruins 5-3 on Friday.
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| | | 38 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 16:11
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Marian Gaborik is insanely good. You'd think it would take a few games for a player to settle in and get into the rhytm after missing tons of action... But not Gaborik. It's even more impressive considering the lack of premier talent around him.
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| | | 39 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 16:43
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Uhhh... What just happened? On ESPN, Brendan Shanahan was announced as the scorer of an unassisted goal, but after a few minutes, the goal was changed to Anaheim (McDonald, asst. Penner)? Haha, I can picture the refs going for the video-check: "Gee, Marc, whose goal is the puck in? I think The Ducks' but better we check it, just to make sure."
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| | | 40 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 18:38
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Just how pathetic is the Wings these days?
What's the word, why was Legace pulled after the 1st? Anyone know anything yet?
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| | | 41 | deraynman
ID: 17461921
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 18:51
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Detroit goaltender Manny Legace sprained his knee with 2 minutes left in the first period, kicking out his left leg on a shot along the ice by Samuel Pahlsson as the Ducks' center tried for the far corner of the net. Play continued for another 30 seconds, and Legace stopped point-blank shots from McDonald and Francois Beauchemin while still on his knees in obvious pain before finally getting a whistle.
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| | | 42 | Dr. Doom
ID: 387231512
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 18:51
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Sprained knee, no further information from the radio broadcast.
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| | | 43 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 19:01
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Got burned by the afternoon games too, Jagr -> Tanguay for me. Ugh... :(
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| | | 44 | RS
ID: 361022321
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 19:09
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legace got injured in the first---groin injury i think
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| | | 45 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 19:11
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I'm gonna be like the only one in the (small)world that didnt go Jagr>Gagne
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| | | 46 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 19:17
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Jaromiraculous will score 4 against the Caps tomorrow (oh, and I moved him for Gagne).
What to do with Legace now... Might go to Auld or Emery, giving me a mighty tandem of 2 sub-1M goalies (Tellqvist is the other).
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| | | 47 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 20:23
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Glad i decided to wait on my planned McCabe trade until this afternoon. With the news about Legace i decided to hang onto to that trade and pass on McCabe for now... I'll be down to one trade after i figure out what to do with Manny, and it's not even Saturday!
I was planning an eventual goalie turnover soon anyways. Legace -> LaBarbera, Grahame -> Lunqvuist. Tentative.
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| | | 48 | walk
ID: 4110372512
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 20:37
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According to the AP article I read at NHL.com., Legace sprained a knee; could be the same injury he had before. He's gotta go. Forsberg seems more precautionary, and from the sound of it, he may even play tomorrow (but I kinda doubt it cos a day off tomorrow would give him 3 days to rest. Might have to burn 2 trades as I have both 2x. Ugh.
- walk
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| | | 49 | CrazyClowns
ID: 37924214
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 23:38
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Legace is outta here.
I wanted to go Markannen = > Vokoun but i got Auld instead.
I'll just go Legace => Vokoun instead. At least I dont have to worry about Mason getting his playing time. Or do I?
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| | | 50 | C.SuperFreak
Sustainer
ID: 053771616
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 23:41
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Depending on the news:
Legace->Garon
I'll have to suck up Prospal's $$$ loss and hold thru Pittsburgh before going.
Prospal->Gaborik
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| | | 51 | CrazyClowns
ID: 37924214
Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 00:21
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HOUSE CLEANING!
Legace => Vokoun
Markannen = > Auld
Lecavalier = > Sundin
Prospal = > Kovalchuk
In retrospective, i probably should have held on to Vinny one more game (PIT). But what do i know.
And no more trades left, which I'm sure is gonna come to haunt me.
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| | | 52 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 03:03
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Still mulling over replacements for both of my goalies in the next few days. Looks like Legace's gotta go ASAP. I think Gerber might fit well in there as a hold until the middle of december. I don't like the matchups against ATL coming up, but the money will be there, and the likely hood of Carolina dropping both is pretty low...
Other slot might go to either Labs or Lunq. Weekes is out for a bit, so Lunq will get the starts, but ill have to wait the 30th to move to him from Grahame. Could only be a 10 day hold as well, as NYR's sched goes blank again soon. In the meantime Grahame'll probably bleed a bit... Labarbera could be a nice pickup, but the lack of starts is concerning. Whats not however is his price. Seems like a of ESDNHLers going real small at G... May follow suit. I'll need to bring back Forsberg and upgrade Baumgartner eventually as well.
Gerber and Lababarbarera may work...
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| | | 53 | walk
ID: 4110372512
Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 08:04
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From NY Post, Saturday, November 26th:
Weekes Won't be Out as Long as Feared
Under different circumstances, Tom Renney's proclamation following the Rangers' 6-3 win Thursday in Atlanta that, "We have a No. 1 goaltender," would have been the stuff of back-page news.
Rather, it was simply an acknowledgement that Henrik Lundqvist would be in nets until Kevin Weekes could return from the right ankle injury that knocked him out of that match early in the third period.
Lundqvist, who faced only six shots in his 17:40 of work in relief of Weekes, would go tomorrow night at home against the Caps, then Thursday at home against the Penguins, and then . . .
Well, actually, with the news yesterday that Weekes, injured when the net toppled over onto him after J.P. Vigier crashed the cage, had suffered no more damage than a contusion, it turns out that Lundqvist is the No. 1 goaltender for tonight and perhaps no more than that.
For Weekes, who had started eight of 12 games since his Nov. 3 return from rehabbing the groin injury that sidelined him for eight of the previous nine games, is officially day-to-day. Just as all his weary teammates, he will benefit from the light schedule that the league's heretofore busiest team will face this week.
Martin Rucinsky, one of a handful of players who skated yesterday, may be back for Thursday's game, his recovery from the sprained MCL he sustained in Montreal on Oct. 29 nearly complete. Steve Rucchin, who will miss his second straight tonight with back and groin problems, will benefit. And Jaromir Jagr, who received treatment for the sprained hip that limited his ice time in Thursday's victory, will also be able to take advantage of some R&R.
Jagr, the leader for both the Rocket Richard and Art Ross Trophies (not to mention the Hart), had an interesting game in Atlanta after sustaining the injury during Wednesday's practice in Buffalo. He left the ice during the morning skate and barely participated in the pregame warm-up. He left the bench during the first period to receive treatment from medical trainer Jim Ramsey. He played only six shifts for 5:42 in the first.
In the second, there was a remarkable stretch in which Jagr, because of consecutive power plays, was on the ice for 3:40 in a span of 4:15 beginning at the 6:46 mark. Soon after that, No. 68 took a shift at 2:20 that would have made Alex Kovalev envious. Scoring at 17:58 to break a 3-3 draw, Jagr played five shifts for 7:34 in the second; an average of 1:30 a shift.
After getting six shifts in the third for 4:30, Jagr-averaging 21:19 per, finished the night with 17 shifts and 17:46 of ice, prompting No. 68 to muse, "I would say I didn't play, and we still won."
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| | | 54 | walk
ID: 4110372512
Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 08:14
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Legace > Vokoun (paired with Garon)
Legace > Labarbera (paired with Hasek)
Forsberg is "questionable" for today's game = HOLD.
- walk
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| | | 55 | The Beezer
ID: 16913307
Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 08:17
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Differentiating from the world by going for higher priced goalies. Kipper -> Belfour along with Vokoun. Hopefully some options will clear up before both of these guys have to go. 7 trades left.
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| | | 56 | Tuques
ID: 480492816
Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 09:13
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Legace => Belfour
Prospal => Frolov
Tuques
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| | | 57 | Destroy*
ID: 35958308
Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 12:30
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I missed the lunch deadline yesterday and was obliged to do around 6h30pm :
Jagr-->Svatos (instead of Gagne or Heatley) got lucky in points but not in $$$
And had to go
Cloutier-->Belfour (Instead of hasek do not know te result yet in points and not good in $$$)
Beginner's mistake...tabarn%?$?%//"(...
maybe good long term...we will see...
I still have Prospal but only 1 trade left...what should I do?
(I have Svatos, Kovalchuk, Bertuzzi and Prospal)
Anybody knows if labarbera is going to play more then Garon?
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| | | 58 | urkel
ID: 289950
Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 12:40
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43:
I too got screwed by PHI and OTT early games. I also went Jagr > Tanguay. What a horrible situation, ended up with less than 100 TSNP on all my teams last night. :0
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| | | 59 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 14:30
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With 7 minutes to play in the 1st, Forsberg hasn't been on the ice yet.
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| | | 60 | chipsnbeer
ID: 55721617
Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 17:36
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Good news all 5 of the teams I had to start the season with are in the top 50 in the world, inc. 3rd & 6th.
bad news I have Legace on all of them with no trades left.
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| | | 61 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 17:50
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Being 1 goalie short for 5 days won't make much of a difference as far as your TSNP is concerned. You'll take a hit in RV but that doesn't seem to be your top-priority anyway. I wouldn't worry about having to keep Legace.
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| | | 62 | chipsnbeer
ID: 55721617
Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 18:04
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I agree about rv not making that much of a difference. In years past to get to that critical 70-75m (to be able to field any team you want)it took a good player to reach it in March. This year most should make it by New Year.
I have had amazing luck with goalies this year, I usually get them with a "gut feeling" and the luck just takes off. 28 wins and 8 shutouts later I feel my luck has run its limit. Now if I could only figure out how to get points from my defence.
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| | | 63 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 18:21
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I've had amazingly bad luck with goalies, now I am 700 points behind chips but I have no Legace and 4 trades, it's still a long way to the end we'll see what shakes out.
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| | | 64 | C.SuperFreak
Sustainer
ID: 053771616
Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 18:47
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My 3 teams where beginning to look very similar. I have decided to throw out my cookie cutter approach and go with 3 different goalies for the Legace cast-off. Vokoun, Hasek, and Garon. Each goalie should get 4 starts in the next 10 days.
I took my lumps earlier when Legace went down and wasn't about to get burned a second time.
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| | | 65 | chipsnbeer
ID: 55721617
Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 19:13
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Take care guys I am meeting some friends at Shanks on MacLeod
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| | | 66 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 22:49
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Went Legace -> Garon.
Instinct move at the last second... I figure if LA's going to rotate in goal, then Garon gets both Chicago games while Labs is saddled with Detroit.
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| | | 67 | chipsnbeer
ID: 55721617
Sun, Nov 27, 2005, 13:21
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Yep Doom it's a long way, and fyi One year I had a 2500pt lead in my division by the midway point and blew it so you can catch me in no time.
SuperFreak I think I will do some of the same mixing on my teams after the next set of trades.
Dienasty thats not a bad idea at all. I haven't had great luck with goalies lately so I will keep my eye on that one.
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| | | 68 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Sun, Nov 27, 2005, 14:51
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I'm really sinking in the standings, went from top 300 to 450+....
And price changes are brutal for me in the past week. I still have Prospal. But after the game tonight he's going to Gaborik. I just couldnt trade him to Gaborik until tomorrow, it just wouldnt have made sense.
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| | | 69 | Destroy*
ID: 35958308
Sun, Nov 27, 2005, 14:58
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Ira, I agree with you regarding Prospal...
will move him to gaborik too after tonight...
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| | | 70 | smallwhirled
ID: 171046162
Sun, Nov 27, 2005, 16:34
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I decided on Forsberg > Staal today. I'm just not 100% sure that Forsberg is okay right now. I can be aggressive, rather than passive, right now for the first time in a while. Carolina's sked is about as good as you can get this side of obviously Atlanta and still LA.
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| | | 71 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Sun, Nov 27, 2005, 22:44
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After a really crappy week I finally have a good night.
348 TSNP and Svatos is still playin...
I'm glad Prospal got a couple points, atleast he wasnt a total loss...
AND WE WON THE GREY CUP!!
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| | | 72 | caribou
ID: 291027310
Mon, Nov 28, 2005, 07:31
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What a great Grey cup game...double OT...and the Als lost.
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| | | 73 | C.SuperFreak
Sustainer
ID: 53771616
Mon, Nov 28, 2005, 16:05
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Barring an injury, my last move of the week:
this afternoon: Prospal > Gaborik
I'll start the feeding frenzy.
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| | | 74 | The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Mon, Nov 28, 2005, 17:22
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Prospal -> Gaborik for me too. That should do it for this week for me.
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| | | 75 | caribou
ID: 51062721
Mon, Nov 28, 2005, 18:12
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So many moves for me since this week end, had 6 trades....and they are all gone....Am I Tradeholic...no wonder I'm doing so poorly this year. For once I had kept my trades....not any more. I traded according to this weeks schedule.
Lecavalier > Spezza
Prospal > Heatly
Cole > Frolov
Brisebois > Vishnovsky
Legace > Biron (very hard to pick Goalies, i've been looking at goalies all day)
Jagr > Palfy
was looking at Gaborik early sunday morning, but considering he was only playing next wednesday, I did not trade for him. Last time, i picked him on his comeback and he got injured that game !
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| | | 76 | walk
ID: 4110372512
Tue, Nov 29, 2005, 07:48
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Oy, this has been an awful week for me. The injuries just killed me, killed me. Legace, Turgeon and now Forsberg for sure. Even he plays Saturday @ Nashville, that translates to a 1 in 7...blah. I am selling Forsberg on at least one team, with my last trade to Spezza, who has a 4 in 7. I am either going to have subsequently move Spezza for the 1 in 6 and lose the FLA game to avoid his losses (I'd expect about $400k drop from wherever he ends up over the next 3 games/4 days based on previous Ottowaian/Spezzian sell-offs this year) or just eat his losses. The losses would be preferable to Forsbergian losses that also accompany a complete lack of points. No good.
On this one team, I had already acquired Gaborik. On my other team, which has but 1 trade (thanks to have Legace, Turgeon and Foppa), I have to [b]decide between moving Forsberg to Spezza or holding Foppa and moving Gagne to Gaborik.
This week this game has just killed me. I was in very good shape trade-wise, too, and the injuries. The great and evil equalizer.
- walk
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| | | 77 | Caper
ID: 3510101810
Tue, Nov 29, 2005, 13:04
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Moved Zetterberg to Iggy today. Sitting on Auld and Graham in the nets with 1 trade left. I think I will wait and watch a little........
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| | | 78 | smallwhirled
ID: 171046162
Tue, Nov 29, 2005, 15:56
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With the injury to Foppa (decline in value of Gagne)....
Gagne > Gaborik (11/30)
Alfreddson > Jagr (12/3)
2 days late for money gains on Jagr but I get 2 Alfie games vs. what would be 1 Gagne and 1 Jagr. Had Foppa not gotten hurt I probably would've taken the money.
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| | | 79 | Caper
ID: 3510101810
Tue, Nov 29, 2005, 16:08
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I will be going:
Heatley to Jagr on the 1rst for the money and points. I would rather have 2 Heatley games and then Jagr but I want the easy money. It is not a smart thing to do as it costs me a game.....
I may change my mind by then
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| | | 80 | smallwhirled
ID: 171046162
Tue, Nov 29, 2005, 16:43
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Not worth it, that is a direct loss of games that is not being picked up somewhere else. I'd only consider money trades if you get equal stud games. In this case, you don't, so don't do it.
12/3 is your date.
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| | | 81 | Caper
ID: 3510101810
Tue, Nov 29, 2005, 16:57
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That is probably where I will end up. Thanks for the input....
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| | | 82 | smallwhirled
ID: 171046162
Tue, Nov 29, 2005, 17:10
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If you had Gagne AND an Ott player, with a little extra cash in the bank.....
Ott > Gaborik (11/30)
Gagne > Jagr (12/1)
will net the most amount of RV and both be worth 8 player games. Food for thought, I have this combo, but I'm going with more Alfreddson games with the absence of Foppa.
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| | | 84 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 08:54
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Gagne -> Gaborik 11/30
Heatley -> Jagr 12/3
I'm thinking potential gains north of $200,000 for Gabs tonight... And although i don't like giving up the Gagne game, Philly plays New Jersey who's won 3 in a row allowing 2 or fewer goals in each game. If anyone's going to stiffle a Forsber-less Flyer team, it may be them. Gagne's price has nowhere to go but down, either. Mo money. I'll miss out on two days of Jagr gains, but i want those Heatley games too.
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| | | 85 | Tuques
ID: 301044298
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 08:54
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I don't see why you would trade Heatly today, he has 2 games comming before the long break and only one day before there 2 games, I can understand after the B2B....
So far this morning I did Bondra => Gaborik and I'll probably dump Frolov to Jagr tomorrow morning and dump Heatly on Sat for I don't know who... I've just notice that I could go Heatly to Jagr on Sat in the morning but I can't miss on the easy money...
Tuques
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| | | 86 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 09:02
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Tuques, if you were referencing the post i deleted, don't worry, i gained some sence am preparing to take an alternate approach.
Forecasting even farther ahead, i think ill be going to Hasery/Emerasek when the time comes too.
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| | | 87 | Joelis
ID: 389331817
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 10:12
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Wow, you guys have some tough choices there.
I must have set myself up well for this week, since I was able to go Zetterberg -> Gabby yesterday, and tomorrow I'll go Gagne -> Jagr, just like it was set up to be.
:)
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| | | 88 | walk
ID: 236779
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 11:54
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Yeah, I went to Gaborik on one team earlier in the week (from Bertuzzi), but on my other, I have to wait until 12/3 as I had to burn 3 of my trades on injured players leaving me tradeless to make a Gange --> Gabby today (which was in the works until I felt I had to unload Forsberg yesterday). And, tomorrow does not represent an optimal day to acquire Gaborik from Gagne; Jagr from Gagne makes more sense...
Gaborik from Alfie/Heatley on Dec 3rd for my other team.
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| | | 89 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 12:20
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12/02
Thornton>Staal
12/03
Svatos>Jagr
Kiprusoff>???
I'll have approx. 8.1mil left for a goalie, and Calgary doesn't have a good schedule, after Pittsburgh, they have 3 in 13, and 2 of those teams are Phi & Ott.
Who's my best option for the next few weeks? Gerber? Dipietro? Vokoun? Osgood?
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| | | 90 | chipsnbeer
ID: 55721617
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 15:09
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Vocoun is the way to go
I already own him and Legace too. I am really not wanting to trade Legace because there aren't too many options.
I have to trade Svatos and Liles tomorrow, I think I might go
Svatos ---> Gionta
Liles ---->Rozsival
But if I do use another trade on Legace, I could go with a cheaper goalie.
Svatos ----> Jagr,Frolov, Gaborik
Liles -----> Zidlicky
Legace ----->Labarbera
Still have to tade Spezza and Heatley later on so I hate to use all my trades.
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| | | 91 | Dr. Doom
ID: 387231512
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 15:17
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I was supposed to get Vokoun yesterday, but alas work got in the way. Oh well, next.
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| | | 92 | smallwhirled
ID: 171046162
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 15:23
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Lidstrom > McCabe last night
Gagne > Gaborik today
Alfreddson > Jagr 12/3
nothing else planned.
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| | | 93 | Die_Habs
ID: 26211512
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 15:45
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Gagne > Gaborik x3 today.
Healthy/Affie > Jagr 12/3
Like smallwhirled, I don't have any more moves planed. OMG maybe i can bank some trades now!
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| | | 94 | walk
ID: 236779
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 16:07
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Gagne > Jagr x2, 12/1
Alfie > Gaborik, 12/3 (already have Gaborik on other team)
Considering holding Spezza and Heatley for 1 in 6, but not sure.
Can't get into TSN right now to see my teams...down for anyone else?
- walk
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| | | 95 | Die_Habs
ID: 26211512
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 16:11
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not working here either.
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| | | 96 | TT
ID: 1810143015
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 16:18
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I elected to go Alfredson --> Gaborik today. And then Gagne --> Jagr tomorrow.
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| | | 97 | walk
ID: 236779
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 16:43
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Wow TT, trading 2 Alfie games for 2 Gaborik games, one of which is Minn at Nashville, all for the $. Interesting.
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| | | 98 | walk
ID: 236779
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 16:43
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back in at TSN, by the way...,
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| | | 99 | smallwhirled
ID: 171046162
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 17:18
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Walk, I was gonna do that trade until Foppa went out with injury. Maybe Gagne will go nuts again tonight....
But it is still the same number of games either way, with more RV for the sequence of trades TT is doing. Same thing, just different players.
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| | | 100 | smallwhirled
ID: 171046162
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 17:21
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What I mean by different players is different players playing the games.
Whichever combo he does, gives him 6 games, regardless, from the 2 spots. Thru 12/3, which is the relevant sample because both scenarios have the same players by 12/3.
Haven't we gone over this already, at another place. ;)
His:
1 Gagne
2 Jagr
3 Gaborik
Ours:
3 Gaborik
2 Alfie
1 Jagr
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| | | 101 | walk
ID: 236779
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 17:52
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Funny, yeah, I see it. Different situation for each individual manager are going to dictate that kinda wash-out for the $ gains move. For me, I was the under the presumption that Gagne would be stifled without Foppa. GONG! [I also did not think Emery would lead to many points, so what do I know?!?]
Then, that kinda move (the Alfie for Gaborik move) is based on how many trades one has. I got killed this week with 3 injuries to one team and 2 to another...now I am gunshy about overly aggressive moves (and had I not taken an early week trade that I thought was total "surplus" -- well, it was before knees and groins went kaput) like bum D-men for Desjardins, I would have been able to move Gagne to Gaborik today and reap some potential nice gains ($100k yesterday has to be like $200k on game day against Columbus).
Sooo, I will personally play it gunshy moving Gagne to Jagr, and then consider moving my Senators to someone else on 12/3 even though, aside from maybe a returning Forsberg, I cannot see anyone I'd move into during the Ottowa 1 in 6 at either center (for Spezza) or Alfie/Heatley (at wing).
Sorry for the stream of consciousness.
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| | | 102 | chipsnbeer
ID: 35957301
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 18:40
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Don't you think it is a bit of a gamble to go with Gaborik?
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| | | 103 | smallwhirled
ID: 171046162
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 18:45
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No because he has the best schedule. He would have to suck pretty bad for it to not be worth it.
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| | | 104 | urkel
ID: 33950610
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 21:36
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I picked up Gionta on one of my teams instead of Gaborik. NJD has the same # of games as MIN in December, and Gionta has been on fire (until tonight, that is). And he's not the injury risk that Gaborik is.
I wasn't going to do the Gaborik move at all because of his injury history, until I saw the 100K increase yesterday... I figured tonight's increase should be huge. So I thought even if he gets injured within the next few games, I'll get a nice RV bonus and he'll probably still put up some nice TSNP before he goes down again. And if I'm lucky, he won't go down and I can ride his great production great schedule for a month. So on my other 2 teams I went Tanguay -> Gaborik today.
Tomorrow, Gagne -> Jagr x3
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| | | 105 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 22:19
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Aw man
I hate Sydor... another -10 tonite, and he loses like 10-20K every night..
He's just not significant enough to use a trade on..
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