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Subject: Week 8 Trades

Posted by: Ira - [401017811] Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 00:01

Kiprusoff>Vokoun
Thornton>Staal
Svatos>Jagr

The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 05:59

Grahame -> Lundquist -> Hasek

Baumgartner -> Foster/Desjardins

I'll also be closely monitoring my LA Kings... They're all approaching thier respective price gain limits.

caribou
ID: 291027310
Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 07:21

Whats up with the Bruins trading Joe Thornton. Was their a problem within the team ?

walk
ID: 236779
Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 08:18

NY Times says Boston has pretty much been in cost-cutting mode since the new owner took over a while back. Thornton was expensive...both Boston and San Jose were losing, and Boston mgmt probably was thinking: "we can lose with him or without him, but we can save a ton of $ and lose without him just the same."

- walk

walk
ID: 236779
Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 08:33

Gagne > Jagr 2x

I have Garon and Labarbera, on seperate teams, and am seriously considering moving both of them to Lundqvist. LA seems to be cooling and with Weekes on injured reserve (but eligible to come off this coming Sat, 12/3), Lundqvist should get a majority of the near-term playing time on a first place team with 4 winnable games coming up. Price gains for Lundqvist also seem likely.

- walk

Tuques
ID: 480492816
Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 08:59

Just did this morning Frolov => Jagr

Sat morning I'll go Heatly => Hossa or someone else depending on schedule...

Tuques

urkel
ID: 289950
Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 09:57

I wonder if we'll see massive price drops for Gerber over the next few days? He dropped 150k today and with the upcoming B2B, he might only play 1 game in the next 5 days. Lundqvist might be a good replacement at around the same bucks, but I'm concerned that Weekes will be back either Saturday or Monday.

I hate trading around goalies this year because the results are generally pretty disappointing. I'd rather stick with them for awhile but I'm afraid of a free-fall in price for Gerber.

R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 10:34

Me too, which is why I moved Gerber -> Hasek as a longterm lock. One thing in Gerber's favor is that Ward just played, so maybe Gerber gets both starts... However, that certainly isn't written in stone. Its not like he's got Brodeur-like hold of the #1 job.

Also did:

Tanguay -> Jagr
Stillman -> Gaborik

C.SuperFreak
Sustainer
ID: 53771616
Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 11:05

I'd like to make a move out of Svatos but Sportingnews has other plans at the moment.

Anyone else getting the error?
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Dr. Doom
ID: 387231512
Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 11:57

That error has been coming up intermittently for the past couple days. I thought they might resolve that with their maintenance effort last night, apparently not.

Die_Habs
ID: 26211512
Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 12:38

Is everyone holding onto Hasek during OTT break? I am not sure what I want to do, I may hold onto Hasek for the rest of the season until he get injuried.

chipsnbeer
ID: 55721617
Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 13:43

I went Liles -----> Timonen

Both Timonen and Zidlicky have been producing like they did late last season as of late

Also went Svatos -----> Jagr

Plan on keeping Gagne, poor 1 in 5 but has a good schedule after that .... just not enough trades.

Still have to trade Heatley and Spezza after the b2b. I am sure there are many in this boat. Who do you plan on trading your Ottawa players for?

walk
ID: 236779
Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 13:46

Spezza = hold 2x
One team: Alfie > Gaborik.
Other team: Heatley = hold (already have Gaborik).

- walk

CrazyClowns
ID: 5195166
Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 13:51

Gagne => Jagr
Svatos => Gaborik

I'm 1M$ short, so I am looking to move either Sundin, Thornton or Naslund to do so, but I am unsure.

I would rather wait a couple of days to trade either of them, but the moves needs to be made today I think.

Any input would be more than welcomed.

R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 14:06

After the B2B I'll be moving Alfie to Ilya, and holding Spezza. Don't have Heatley.

The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 17:48

Gagne -> Jagr just like everyone else.

Ira
ID: 401017811
Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 17:48

CrazyClowns, I'd move Thornton if I were you..

a) He's got 3 in 12 after Saturday's game
b) He might need some time to create chemistry with his new teams

Depending on money issues, my first choice would be Savard, then probably Staal or Yashin(on sunday).

I went Thornton>Staal myself

Destroy*
ID: 581147116
Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 18:19

Hi,

I did:

Labarbera--Lundqvist
Bertuzzi--Jagr
Svatos--Gionta

have a good night!!!

urkel
ID: 33950610
Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 19:38

I did

Gagne > Jagr
Gerber > Lundqvist (crossing my fingers on this one)

C.SuperFreak
Sustainer
ID: 053771616
Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 20:41

Svatos > Jagr
Thornton > Nylander

Nylander as a placeholder until Forsbergs makes a healthy return (keyword: healthy). If not I'll move into Spezza or Arnott around the 12th/13th.

chipsnbeer
ID: 35957301
Fri, Dec 02, 2005, 13:56

Spezza------> Nylander
Heatley -----> Gionta

After tonights game

Little M
ID: 13100911
Fri, Dec 02, 2005, 14:42

Re post 10.

I was planning to hold Hasek, but Hockey Informer has Emery as the probably starter for tonight, so I am not sure what to do with him. Not very many attractive alternatives, except for Lundqvist, so I still might hold.

C.SuperFreak
Sustainer
ID: 53771616
Fri, Dec 02, 2005, 15:47

I have to move Auld and I was considering Bryzgalov-apolooza until I looked at his schedule. The opponents can either light it up or stink out the joint. Help me Magic 8 ball, you are my only hope.

Caper
ID: 3510101810
Fri, Dec 02, 2005, 15:52

The goalie options are so crappy and inconsistent right now that I will keeo Auld for Sunday and re-evaluate then. I will have Heatley to move and probably others......

CrazyClowns
ID: 5195166
Fri, Dec 02, 2005, 17:11

After sleeping at the wheel yesterday,

Naslund => Jagr
Svatos => Gionta
Sundin => Nylander
Auld => Lundqvist

Positionning myself for an Ottawa banwagon come next thursday: Lolaspezzlouzza, Alfredsson and Heatley.

caribou
ID: 181136216
Fri, Dec 02, 2005, 17:41

My last 3 trades !!!

today

Palfy (injured) > Gaborik
Spezza > Staal = wanted the 4 games in 7 of Car instead of the Ott 2 games in 7 days

Tomorow

Heatly > Gionta (logical move with the stupid scheds)

Very hard to make good moves with these scheds....trying to look longer term gets complicated.

Tuques
ID: 480492816
Sat, Dec 03, 2005, 08:57

Just like everyone else, this morning I did

Heatly => Gionta

I'm questionning myself if I should keep Hasek or trade him, Hasek can be a season long hold, but he's salary will fluctuate... On top of this there is not clear cut option at the moment with the differents injury and the week sched...

Tuques

R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Sat, Dec 03, 2005, 09:02

Alfie -> Ilya, and holding Spezza/Hasek.

samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Dec 03, 2005, 10:24

What's the latest on Forsberg, is he a go today? I didn't find anything. Thanks.

The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Sat, Dec 03, 2005, 10:53

This site is reporting that Forsberg almost certainly won't play today.

samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Dec 03, 2005, 11:29

Damn, I'd hate to move Spezza to Nylander as it's such a short-term solution, even though the money will most likely be there. But outside of Forsberg & Nylander, I don't see anything resembling a reasonable center-option from Spezza at this point.

Thanks for the link, The Beezer.

samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Dec 03, 2005, 11:48

I'm probably missing something (or possibly even a lot), but why is everyone and their car picking up Gionta? With only 4 winger-slots to play with and many teams entering good schedules in a few days, it seems hard enough to fit in Kovalchuk, the Sens, Jagr, (Gaborik) etc. etc. Or do you consider Gionta as a short-term place-holder?

samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Dec 03, 2005, 11:49

car = cat. Well duh.

TT
ID: 52715301
Sat, Dec 03, 2005, 11:54

What's with the love for Gionta all of a sudden? Kind of makes me want to get him for the sudden money increase. But I just don't see any reason to waste the trade on it at the moment. I, unlike others, positioned my team so I didn't have to use 4-5 trades by friday of the trade week. It cost me a bit in points, so hopefully I can use these trades at a better time for a better result.

Die_Habs
ID: 511121118
Sat, Dec 03, 2005, 12:56

I think Gionta makes perfect sense in the short term (1 week). Samuli are you really going to hold the Senators for an 0-6? I also like spezza to nylander or gomez in the short term. After that back in the OTT players who have a better long term schedule. My wingers will be Kovalchuk, Jagr, Gabby, and Gionta.

Die_Habs
ID: 511121118
Sat, Dec 03, 2005, 13:03

Anyone thinking of moving there LA players after tonights game?

samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Dec 03, 2005, 13:09

No I'm not planning to hold on to Spezza & Hasek, even though I don't really like to move Spezza for Nylander but as there's no real options around... Beggers can't be choosers. Hasek will become Niittymäki.

R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Sat, Dec 03, 2005, 13:21

#35, just to note, Ottawa has a 1 in 6, not 0-6. While still bad, it was actually enough to make me hold Spezza. If I could've gained 4 games from Nylander, that would've justified 2 trades. But just 3 games doesn't cut it for me. Each trade has to gain me 2 games, or I don't make the move. Just one of my rules.

As far as Hasek, I've locked him in very longterm. My goaltending choices have been absolutely horrid this year, so I'll skip the frustration of picking another bum and hold the trade. I'll lose some shortterm money, but my RV can handle it.

samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Dec 03, 2005, 13:39

Correction: Got Lundqvist after all, now trying to out-smart myself on whether to go Tellqvist --> Niittymäki and leave myself with 1 trade, which would be needed soon to rid my team of McCabe. This is the first time all season that I'm down to 2 trades on saturday, haven't gone tradeless even once yet. Hmmmmm...

R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Sat, Dec 03, 2005, 13:49

You're getting rid of Mccabe? Why?

samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Dec 03, 2005, 13:51

They have a 1-in-6 or 3-in-13 after today... That's quite brutal for a 6M-guy.

R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Sat, Dec 03, 2005, 14:16

On the surface, yes. But once I dug a bit deeper:

- Who are you going to move him to? Not too many teams have great schedules, and at defense the dropoff in talent gets pretty severe pretty quick.
- I'd want a guy like Mccabe back, so really its two trades in the end.
- I hate using trades on defense, especially ones not all that highly owned who will likely only lose a pittance.

Add all that up, and I'd have to spend 2 trades to get a guy with 6 games during that 13 day stretch (nobody plays 7) and its debatable weather I'd find a guy who in 6 games could outscore 3 mccabe games. Also, I wouldn't have a use for the extra money I'd be temporarily saving, especially since I'd need it back at the end to reaquire him.

I suppose your situation could be different, especially if you have another defense you can go ? -> Mccabe with when Tor's schedule picks up again. (Thus letting you keep whoever you get from Mccabe now.) But I know you have a high RV, so I'm doubtful you really need the money...

samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Dec 03, 2005, 14:20

But logic and greed are mutually exclusive. =)

I was thinking Schneider or Chara (but I think he's suspended now), or even Foster to capitalize on the fashion of picking up the hot cheapie-D of the moment.

Ira
ID: 401017811
Sat, Dec 03, 2005, 14:30

#36,

I'm waitin till Thursday to go Demitra>Spezza, gains me 3 games..

I don't know what to do with Labarbera.. He's just givin me negatives... I guess I'll move him to Lundqvist if I can afford it

samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Dec 03, 2005, 14:48

I put 50€ down on Atlanta, Boston and Toronto all winning their respective games. The return will be just under 600€ if it works out.

samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Dec 03, 2005, 14:53

Wow Gaborik scored, the guy still has got pulse it seems!

Ira
ID: 401017811
Sat, Dec 03, 2005, 15:18

looks like NHL.com changed the goal. Now it's credited to Rolston. Dang.

Oh well, I guess a goal is as good as an assist anyways

samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Dec 03, 2005, 15:26

...not really since it was a PP-goal. =(

CrazyClowns
ID: 37924214
Sat, Dec 03, 2005, 16:12

#42

I think it is very reasonable to drop McCabe at this point, unless you absolutely want to pick him back when his sched gets a little better. Next week, Ottawa sched gets real hot for a while and clearing some $$$ to spend upfront wouldnt be a bad idea. Having Kovalchuk, Heatley and Alfredsson at the W spot can be a great combo, but some $$$ set aside is imperative. Going a little cheaper on D should clear enough funds to get some big guys.

Ira
ID: 401017811
Sun, Dec 04, 2005, 00:09

Good grief...

I go Vokoun>Lundqvist tonight, after I traded to Vokoun for only 1 game.

Lunqvist: -43
Vokoun: 65

I hate this game. Oh well, atleast I got an extra 170K

samuli
ID: 4593715
Sun, Dec 04, 2005, 04:12

Wow-zah! I got 11 guys going, for the grand total of 9 TSNP! This must be some kind of a record, at least on the personal level.

The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Sun, Dec 04, 2005, 04:14

I had all 12 going for not much more... Just abysmal. Ottawa's sched can't pick up soon enough.

Die_Habs
ID: 511121118
Sun, Dec 04, 2005, 08:49

R9

At the date of my post OTT had 6 days off which equals a 0-6, or 1-7. Either way you look at it, the worst schedule you can have. Not sure how you missed a game in there.

R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Sun, Dec 04, 2005, 10:06

You're probably forgetting about the rescheduled Fla/OTT game tomorrow.

Die_Habs
ID: 511121118
Sun, Dec 04, 2005, 10:29

sorry, i only use kafenatid.net for schedules, nothing is on there.

Joelis
ID: 389331817
Sun, Dec 04, 2005, 13:04

Actually the record is in the minuses for having all 12 players going on one night. I remember this well from two years ago. :(

Destroy*
ID: 35958308
Sun, Dec 04, 2005, 16:00

Hi

I did :

Belfour--> Di Pietro
Conroy-->Jokinen

Have a good week!

Ira
ID: 401017811
Sun, Dec 04, 2005, 16:06

Had enough of Sydor...

Sydor>Desjardins

The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Sun, Dec 04, 2005, 21:34

Garon -> Nitty

I might be out of trades by Friday of next week, but if things go well i may be able to fit all of the Ottawa players i want and a couple of Flyers while preserving 1 trade... It's in the price swings from here until the 8th, so here's hoping managers show patience with the LA trio.

Nice turnaround on your DiPietro trade, destroy*.

caribou
ID: 181136216
Sun, Dec 04, 2005, 21:53

Destroy, you alwas have the right moves at the right moment. The Dipietro move was a long shot, and it paid off for this game. Keep up the good work !!!

C.SuperFreak
Sustainer
ID: 53771616
Sun, Dec 04, 2005, 22:46

I'm aulding at the moment. I have McCabe'd up my mind to sit tight with my roster and carry 3 trades into next week.

smallwhirled
ID: 111129214
Sun, Dec 04, 2005, 23:13

Continuing to go with my original plans which is trade banking. Took the expected -250K hit for my team today with LA players, but I didn't like the tweener options at the moment. Should be able to take 4 trades into refresh.

TT
ID: 52715301
Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 00:37

Haha me and you have the exact same mine set smallwhirled. It would appear we have about similar teams as well. Except I took a -300k hit, I'm guessing you don't have Mr. Gerber.

Tuques
ID: 301044298
Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 10:27

This morning after totally missing up my team during stupid trading this weekend, I decided to go from Belfour to Hasek and he should be a lock for at least 2-3 months except if he gets hurt...

Saturday Morning I traded Hasek to Lundquist and keept Belfour, now I'm going back to Hasek, I was expecting much more of a drop then what actually occured...

Tuques

caribou
ID: 291027310
Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 10:32

Should use my last trade to do this moce ???
Conroy > Spezza

smallwhirled
ID: 111129214
Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 10:42

Last trade?

I wouldn't, you lose a game.

caribou
ID: 291027310
Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 10:45

it would be my last trade
are you saying that I should keep Conroy ?

smallwhirled
ID: 111129214
Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 10:51

you have to look at your team as a whole, but yeah, I'd say do that trade on Dec 9th. Maybe it depends on your RV though, if your RV is bad and don't think you can take the hit, do Conroy > Jokinen > Spezza.

Ira
ID: 401017811
Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 12:47

Didnt see that Demitra hit coming...

maybe I shouldnt have used that last trade on Sydor..

CrazyClowns
ID: 5195166
Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 13:03

Demitra's hit isnt likely to continue this week. He'll probably get hammered when LA has 3 off-days and a lot of people will get off board for good. I will wait until then to move him, maybe for Comrie, which would allow me to free some $$$ to get my W loaded up (Alfie, Heatley, Kovalchuk and Gagne).

chipsnbeer
ID: 55721617
Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 13:26

I saw the Demitra thing coming. Him, Conroy and Frolov took off three weeks ago from out of no where. It's bound that anyones price who goes up because of a few good games, will drop just as fast when they don't. It is why I would never have anymore then one player from a short lived hot line .... it leaves me too open. I never owned Savard, Hossa, Conroy, Frolov ... because I had Kovalchuk and Demitra. Now I would own player combos from lines that have done it all year, Like Spezza/Heatley or Forsberg/Gagne.

C.SuperFreak
Sustainer
ID: 53771616
Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 14:22

Agh TSN, just goes to show you how difficult/quirky this game can be. All 3 teams money losers and I moved up in the rankings with all 3 of my teams (I guess I have the Islanders and Sabres to thank for that). Only 1 position out of 36 eligible point positions played.
Up 65 spots - 70pts.
Up 112 spots - 0pts.
Up 348 spots - 0pts.

I didn't see the Aebischer or Legace pick ups coming. Aebischer hasn't been that great this year and I thought Legace was still injured?

Hockey ljusa sidan
ID: 45625148
Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 14:33

"Manny Legace, Detroit Red Wings - Legace has been diagnosed
with a first degree tear in his MCL, reports TSN. His return is
unclear."

From hockeyinformer.com

C.SuperFreak
Sustainer
ID: 53771616
Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 21:31

Moving:
Pitkanin > ?
I just read that he'll undergo abdominal surgery and will be OUT 4-6wks.

The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 21:35

Just read that.

-> Desjardins, perhaps?

Ira
ID: 401017811
Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 21:44

Hey that'd be sweet if everyone went Pitkanen>Desjardins!

I went Sydor>Desjardins just yesterday

The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 21:49

Desjardins would be a popular move for those managers looking to pimp some cash in antipation for the looming Ottawa buying spree... Pitkanen's price point does allow for plently of flexibility with regards to an upgrade, too.

A shame McCabe's schedule isn't better right now.

urkel
ID: 289950
Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 22:56

damn, can't connect to the TSN site right now. Anyone else having that problem?

Ira
ID: 401017811
Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 23:01

I made it just fine.

The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 23:10

Wow, i would have made more money had i kept Pitkanen...

urkel
ID: 289950
Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 23:14

Dienasty... I missed the deadline because I couldn't connect to the TSN site. Ended up making money because of it, since Pitkanen went up 20k.

Sometimes you just get lucky I guess!

TT
ID: 52715301
Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 23:14

There must be a lot of po'd managers today. Obviously there were a lot of managers who bought Pitkanen today to make his price increase.

Imagine the people who bought him earlier today and then had to turn around and sell him on the same day, even before 1 roster freeze. lol that would be funny.

The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 23:29

Who in the hell picks up Ladislav Nagy as he rolls into a 1-in-6... I hope they enjoy his 80TSNP from tonight because that's all he'll see until next week. Just how desperate were these guys to move Frolov?

The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 23:44

Cost myself 30k going Pitkanen -> Rafalski today. That's annoying.

RS
ID: 361022321
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 00:52

im screwed for the upcoming week

i have 2 injured players in pitkanen and bondra..and have 2 ranger players on my team(Jagr,Lundqvist) and rangers schedule dies down alot after saturday, where i expect a big loss in both players so by the time wednesday rolls around again ill probabbly loose out a lot.
im thinking of moving pitkanen>>Corvo and bondra to gionta

Die_Habs
ID: 26211512
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 08:51

I can't remember the last time I had 200+ pts in a night. This has been a brutal past 5+ days.

samuli
ID: 4593715
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 08:57

Any news on Forsberg, anyone? I think I might let Gaborik go today and pick up Gagne for a long-term stay. The money was nice with Gaborik but as today it'll be in the negatives, might as well move him now since Gagne is definitely in the pipeline anyway.

The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 09:28

86

I hear that. I've scored more TSNP in one day in past weeks then in this entire week combined.

87

Rotoworld:
Peter Forsberg has a tear of his right groin muscle, not just a simple strain.
Forsberg, who has missed four games with a groin injury, skated on his own yesterday but is likely to sit out the balance of the week. "There was more damage there that any of us thought - more than I thought," Forsberg said. "I didn't think it could get worse; I just knew it was there. The MRI said it was a Grade I tear, just a little tear in the muscle. It should heal by itself... . There is nothing you can do about it except let it heal and try not to tear it open again." Leave Forsberg on injured reserve until further notice. Dec. 6 - 7:26 am et
Source: Philadelphia Inquirer

Figures. I had been setting aside money to pick Forsberg for a while now... Looks like ill have to look elsewhere.

smallwhirled
ID: 111129214
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 12:04

Personally, I'd just be aware of Gaborik > Gagne. Chances are that most teams are going to have to turn over their entire set of 4 wings within the next 7 days or so. Not to mention centers, Pitkanen if you still have him, goalie.....etc.

Can you take care of LA if you haven't already? NYR? Atl? I'm thinking of selling Atlanta on the 12th.

Although Gaborik isn't producing right now, he is not even close to being the biggest fish to fry. Be careful if you make this lateral swap that can't gain you any games...or you'll be stuck holding one of the guys that actually DOES have a crappy schedule.

samuli
ID: 4593715
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 12:21

I could still move all the people that have to be moved within the the next few days (although Demitra stays at least until Forsberg is back). Usually I'm partial to sticking with guys not producing worth a damn (like Iginla to begin the season) as long as their schedule stays good. This has no doubt had a negative effect on my total TSNP. Now, of course there's no way to tell whether or not Gaborik will get productive again soon, but Minnesota just is not a very high-scoring team, and Gaborik is not exactly surrounded with premier talent. So taking the money and running doesn't seem like a bad idea, esp. since Gagne could be considered as a "must-have" whenever his schedule is acceptable. Not having Forsberg to feed him does make me think, though...

smallwhirled
ID: 111129214
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 12:25

I guess, I'm getting Gagne from somewhere else....Just make sure you acn move all of those other guys.

TT
ID: 52715301
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 12:42

I too went Gaborik to Gagne. I still have a couple trades banked. I took all the LA loses to prepare for this next week.

smallwhirled
ID: 111129214
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 12:46

Right now I have Ilya > Gagne pegged for the 12th FWIW, hopefully.

urkel
ID: 33950610
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 14:05

Darn, I figured people would be talking about dumping Gaborik. Just can't see doing it on a week that he plays Pittsburgh, Philly with their backup goalie, and then Buffalo.

If Gagne was playing with Forsberg still I could see it, but as it is, I just don't know.

urkel
ID: 33950610
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 14:06

Oh, I went

Pitkanen > Zidlicky

NAS with a very nice schedule through first week of January

ny studs
ID: 24113358
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 15:54

no games will be played in the nhl between 2/13 and 2/27 because of the olympics. during that time there are 2 wednesdays (aka trade refreshes). i read the game rules but was unsure if we will receive 10 trades over that period. does anyone know for sure? if so, i/we think i/we can be much more agressive with our trades. not only that, but just 2 days later (3/1) comes another refresh.

smallwhirled
ID: 111129214
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 17:06

Taking another risk. Pitkanen > Redden.

Joelis
ID: 389331817
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 17:09

Gotta choose between Gagne and Gionta today. I'm leaning toward Gionta because he is less owned and has two extra games in the next 2 weeks.

smallwhirled
ID: 111129214
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 17:19

With Foppa out, I don't see a huge reason to get Gagne just yet....the 2 extra games for Gionta probably make him worth it here. I'm going to get Gagne, just not yet.....

100

samuli
ID: 4593715
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 17:43

Leaning towards holding Gaborik for now... There's still no way I could possibly make room for Gionta even if I wanted to (I don't). But different strokes for different folks etc. etc., now watch him go for b2b hat-tricks. :O)

101

CrazyClowns
ID: 37924214
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 18:42

Dont jinx it Samuli...

102

Ira
ID: 401017811
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 19:40

Just my luck..

Eric Desjardins left the game and won't be returning because of a 'partial shoulder seperation'

103

CrazyClowns
ID: 37924214
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 20:52

ouch.
another trade down the drain.

104

The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 20:54

Splendid.

105

walk
ID: 57118411
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 21:08

I have desjardins on all three teams, one of which is tradeless...two of three had him before this injury, and one had him for the one freakin period before his frail buttocks got hurt. Nice one.

I'm moving him to Chara on one team and anyone who is not likely to get hurt on the other.

- walk

106

The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 21:15

My teams trade situation is going to be dire almost immediately after the refresh... Call it poor trade management or just plain bad luck, but i may have to eat significant losses next week on at least one LA King forward and potentially both of my Thrasher players.

Not pleased.

107

R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 21:42

Woohoo! 156 TSNP for Niitty, finally got my 1st goalie shutout of the year. Needed that like you wouldn't believe...

Next week, I might just end up holding both my LA forwards. (Demitra/Frolov) They do have a 3-day break, but their schedule picks right back up again after that. Its not a pts or schedule move imho, just a money-saving one because everyone will sell for the 3-day break. At this point I'm probably leaning sell one/hold one, but we'll see. My trade situation has been crap for weeks, I'd really like to change that.

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urkel
ID: 289950
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 21:43

Yikes. This has to be one of the worst weeks I can remember for me in this game. Had both Pitkanen and Desjardins. Plus of course 2 LA forwards and 2 ATL forwards who did squat and lost money.

One positive note... on my Basic team I picked up Niittymaki (sp?) from Gerber on the weekend, pretty happy with tonight's result... wish I'd picked him up on my ultimate teams! Although his run will be shorter than I'd hoped, since Esche will be back soon.

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urkel
ID: 289950
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 21:50

97: I considered that same move myself! In the end I chickened out because I just haven't had luck with my just-back-from-injury guys. Went instead to someone who's in gravity - Zidlicky. But he's been pretty consistent lately and he's got a wicked schedule right through until the first week of January. Hopefully some other managers will see the potential upside with him and pick him up so he escapes gravity.

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Ira
ID: 401017811
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 21:57

Desjardins> Kim Johnsson or Meszaros?

111

Joelis
ID: 389331817
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 22:26

Oh well, at least we will make decent cash on him tonight before getting rid of him tomorrow.

112

Joelis
ID: 389331817
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 22:29

At least there is some good news tonight...

The Victoria Secret Fashion Show is on right now.

:)

113

C.SuperFreak
Sustainer
ID: 53771616
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 23:09

...bad news Joelis. Tyra Banks calls it a career after her 3rd and final walk down the runway.

Time to trade out of her.

Heidi Klum has the experience but being married to a Seal worries me.

I'm thinking more about the rookie Izabel Goulart. That star is on the rise.

114

The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 23:15

Desj -> Zidlicky for me. Leaves me just enough for Ottawa buy day and Zid's schedule looks good. And here I was thinking a few days ago that maybe I had saved too many trades to be useful. Trade hoarders of the world unite - our time has come!

115

TT
ID: 52715301
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 23:26

You and me both Beezer, you and me both. I actually love it when highly owned players get injured (even though I have them). Those fools near the top who always use their trades by thursday or friday are getting what they deserve.

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urkel
ID: 289950
Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 03:08

on my ultimate teams I have trades (at least 4 on each team) so I'm good there despite having both Pitkanen and Desjardins. On my basic team, for the first time all year, I used up all my trades on Saturday. Of course the only time that ever happens is the time that 2 of my guys get injured within 1 day of each other; I have both Pitkanen and Desjardins so I'll be out of trades the first day of next week. Oi!

Then I have to hope and pray that no one gets hurt, and that my Saturday acquisition, Niittymaki, does well enough to keep playing for another week even if Weekes comes back. Ugh I just realized, I have Jagr on that team too. Whoa am I ever in trouble on that one. Could take a long time to recover there.

Thank god I played more conservatively in ultimate.

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urkel
ID: 289950
Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 03:09

re Niitty, I meant "...even if Esche" comes back, of course. Yikes, this trade situation has addled my brain. :)

118

urkel
ID: 289950
Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 03:12

Woohoo, Gaborik didn't go down nearly as much as I feared. Looks like I'll be OK to keep him against 3 soft teams this week. Actually make that 2 I guess... Niitty is maybe not so soft. :)

119

walk
ID: 57118411
Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 07:25

One team, turgeon, forsberg, pitkanen, desjardins and legace = 5 injury-related trades used in last 2 weeks. Other team = same except for turgeon.

This has truly ficked me up royally!

- walk

120

smallwhirled
ID: 111129214
Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 08:47

118,
Like I said, people have bigger fish to fry. It's hard to trade a guy like Gaborik when players are dropping like flies.

I may move Ilya today. He has flat out sucked lately, and he has a 2 day hole now....have plenty of time to think about it.

121

Caper
ID: 3510101810
Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 13:56

I may move Ilya to Kariya or Sullivan today. Decent schedule, stable price and possible points...... We will see.

122

Caper
ID: 3510101810
Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 13:59

More likely Kariya if I move..........

123

smallwhirled
ID: 111129214
Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 14:49

I think Ilya > Sullivan for me.

125

Die_Habs
ID: 26211512
Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 15:46

I really want the ATL vs Blue Jackets game. Dammit! I feel that most of the trading that is going on is in frustration rather then looking at schedules and matchups. I would trade my entire team right now but my existing players are just as likely to produce points as anyone.

126

smallwhirled
ID: 111129214
Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 15:50

Ilya pisses me off, I'm tired of eating so many money losers. The entire situation has gone to hell because I had originally planned on ATL > PHI. Now that doesn't work because Foppa is such a freaking wild card. Center sucks, so Savard isn't going to be as much of a risk as Ilya in terms of money loss.....there are no centers I want right now anyways.

Ilya > Sully > Nagy for me.

127

TT
ID: 481125715
Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 16:29

Why not hold out a little longer and go Ilya to one of the OTT wingers. That was my original plan.

128

smallwhirled
ID: 111129214
Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 16:31

I have ins to them.

129

samuli
ID: 4593715
Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 16:32

A quick question: Why is J not in our league? I'm guessing you should know something about this, smallwhirled.

130

smallwhirled
ID: 111129214
Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 16:50

Because he likes to win auto divisions......wheras I, think I can win ESDNHL every year. ;)

Seriously, he always just plays in the autos, that's just his thing. I just go with 1 team and put it in the big divsion because the competition outweighs the auto division prize.

131

TT
ID: 581157716
Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 18:08

Hmmmm I have a few mil left in the bank. Was gonna use it for Gerber ---> Hasek. Or I could also use it to upgrade Desjardan and possibly Frolov ---> Heatley.

What do you guys think?

132

Ira
ID: 401017811
Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 19:47

Nice calls on the Zidlickys

he's so pricey...

I dont know if I want to move to him for the schedule, or get a cheapie in Meszaros for the long-term..

133

urkel
ID: 33950610
Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 19:51

Woohoo Zidlicky with 1G, 1A already through 1 period of play. I was worried about him because he was in gravity when I picked him up but he made money today and from the points he's getting tonight, he should make more tomorrow.

In a sense though I'd almost be happier if the bare minimum of managers needed to avoid gravity picked him up... that way his price would be stable and I could keep him without any worries of RV loss through the first week of January.

134

urkel
ID: 33950610
Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 19:57

Ira, I got both. Went

Pitkanen > Zidlicky -- Tuesday
Desjardins > Meszaros -- today

saved money on both trades that will come in handy for picking up OTT forwards.

135

smallwhirled
ID: 111129214
Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 21:27

Zidlicky is going nuts.....jeez.

Sullivan had a penalty shot. Almost a hatty. Still some time to go.

136

Die_Habs
ID: 511121118
Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 21:27

Nice pickup on Zidlicky guys. I didn't do any moves at this time. I am going to suck up the RV loses and hope the tide turns. When I don't see any options, I figure I might as well save trades. Gaborik and Ilya need to turn there games around sometime. Moving Jagr into SENS and nylander in Spezza.

137

urkel
ID: 33950610
Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 21:50

I wasn't expecting anything like Zidlicky's performance tonight, that's for sure. I was just hoping for a nice steady 30-35 TSNP/game like he's been doing for awhile. He got almost that from penalties alone tonight. :D

But yeah he's looking good, and between today and January 15, Nashville plays 21 games - the most of any team in the NHL, so he could conceivably be a 2 month hold.

I won't go so far as to say the Pitkanen thing was a blessing in disguise, but it sure goes a long way to easing the pain.

138

CrazyClowns
ID: 37924214
Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 21:59

went Desjardins => Meszeros with my last trade earlier today. I like the long term hold and prefer the cheap option than the mid-prices one at D for a couple TSNP/G difference. Gives me more cash to play around with my wingers and less volatilty of their price, which doesnt force me to use up trades.

139

urkel
ID: 33950610
Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 22:00

I just realized something... with his fight near the end of the game, Zidlicky completed a Gordie Howe hat trick! I wish that was worth something in this game!

140

The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 22:32

Ditto what urkel said about Zid. I'd love to hold him into 2006 and plan to barring injury, then I can turn him into a top-3 D guy assuming I can keep up a decent RV gain overall until then.

SW called Sullivan and he put up a monster game as well. Too bad Vokoun had a seat tonight but then again with his recent play I can't complain too much.

141

Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 22:35

I really wanted to get Zidlicky, but couldn't pull it off with one trade.

142

The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 22:55

Well, im sold. Desjardins -> Zidlicky, once i get my precious trades.

143

Caper
ID: 3510101810
Thu, Dec 08, 2005, 12:54

Glad I actually did go Sullivan afterall. Between him, Zildiky and Iggy, I finally had a decent night. Iggy to Gaborik today for me.

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