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| Posted by: TT
- [31938290] Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 01:36
So many trades (8) not many players needing to be traded. Hmmmmm maybe I can trade Gerber for Miller or Lehtonen (I don't have any cash in the bank to upgrade, can only downgrade). |
| | | 1 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 01:45
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I'd wait a few games from Lehtonen before you trade into him.. sounds like he's really having problems with that groin..
12/31
Marleau>Datsyuk
Emery>Auld
01/01
Nagy>Sullivan
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| | | 3 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 09:07
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Foster -> Redden. I'm tempted to pass, but looking ahead to OTT's next 4 opponents, i see a great opportunity to take advantage of my extra banked RV and make a real push up higher in the standings...
Auld bought some extra time on my squad and im hoping he can string together some wins on Vancouver's upcoming roadtrip. Modano's placeholding for Spezza, and i wish i had another "W" slot of Jagr later in the week, but as my team is structured right now i should be able to take my hands off the wheel for the next little while...
'course having said that, you know some kind of calamity is sure to ensue.
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| | | 4 | Tuques
ID: 480492816
Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 10:29
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This morning, I did
Big Joe => Modano
Tanguay => Palfy
Tuques
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| | | 5 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 10:31
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Ira - what makes you think he's having more problems with his groin????
He just hasn't played yet because Garnett posted b2b shutouts and has the Thrashers at 6-0-3 in their last 9. No reason to make a change just yet.
From ajc:
Thrashers coach Bob Hartley said he would decide Thursday who will start on Friday at Buffalo, but Kari Lehtonen has been ready since Monday and will likely get his first chance since groin problems derailed him on opening night.
Asked whether Lehtonen would start next, Hartley said, "Kari, because of Garney's play, benefited from a couple of good days [of practice], so tomorrow we'll sit down with Kari and if everything's in place, we're going to make the right decision tomorrow."
I've gotta believe Lehtonen will get the bulk of the playing time from here on out now. Shields or Dunham or Berkhoel or even Hurme will be called up to be the backup and Garnett will get to play every day in Chicago.
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| | | 6 | Slats05
ID: 37133113
Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 10:46
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He doesnt know what he is talking about hes looking at picking up auld of all things. Lehtonen played 5 games last year and won them all.
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| | | 7 | chipsnbeer
ID: 4211572815
Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 13:28
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Lehtonen has the flue, besides why get a goalie of all positions that hasn't played forever. That just sounds like a desparate move to me.
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Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 13:51
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No, Jere Lehtinen of Dallas had the flu
not Kari Lehtonen, rookie goalie extrordinaire.
And for the record he played in 4 games last year and won them all, his 5th career game was the first game of this season where he shutout Florida in the first period and then left with the groin injury and hasn't played since. I'm surprised he's not doing a minor league rehab.
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| | | 9 | Slats05
ID: 37133113
Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 14:05
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I dont see how its a desparate move look at kipper, turco etc last few games, id rather have someone benched for those tspn and for 2.70 mill a quarter of most goalies prices its worth a risk plus a goalie postion is not like a skater after injury, auld on the other hand is a pile, thats a desparate move, well not really you know what you get, nothing.
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| | | 10 | chipsnbeer
ID: 4211572815
Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 15:12
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no argument about Auld, but there are some goalies out there who are doing well where you don't have to gamble on a guy who hasn't played.
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| | | 11 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 15:13
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That's right Slats, I don't know what I'm talking about. (rolls eyes)
anywho.
From an article i came across.....
Atlanta Thrashers rookie goalie Kari Lehtonen, who has been plagued by groin problems, is expected to return either on Monday against Montreal or on Wednesday against Philadelphia. Lehtonen was hurt in the season opener. Thrashers coach Bob Hartley is not impressed that Lehtonen was named to Finland's Olympic team. "We're going to pick up whatever is left of him when it is over," Hartley said. "I just hope the Finnish team will supply the elastic bands (used to treat groin injuries) when he comes back."
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| | | 12 | Slats05
ID: 37133113
Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 15:28
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Looking at your past trades id say thats correct.
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| | | 13 | smallwhirled
ID: 3211112519
Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 17:07
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wow lots of venom here.
Might move Staal after tonight. Had hoped Spezza would be back by now but that doesn't look like that's the case so maybe Savard or Jokinen instead. If not tommorrow, then in 3 days.
Turco better get his act together, so far using cash for 2 7 mil goalies hasn't worked too well.
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| | | 14 | urkel
ID: 289950
Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 19:42
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What a bundle of joy Slats brings us this holiday season.
After not paying much attention to the pool since the holidays began, I finally made a few trades:
Thornton > Modano
Grahame > Garon
Tanguay > Morrow on one team (had to dump some RV to afford Garon)
Will probably go
Tanguay > Sullivan/Kariya on my other 2 teams 1/1
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| | | 15 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 21:10
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http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/stanleycup2004/
Scroll half-way down the page. Look right. 'HNIC Hockey Pool Standings'.
Hmm.. First overall over 25000+.... got me $3000.
Yep, I suck.
How much money have you made at this again Slats?
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| | | 16 | C.SuperFreak
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ID: 053771616
Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 22:02
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Back from vacation! I can honestly say it helps tradewise but doesn't do much for anything else.
Made a couple of moves.
Thornton > Modano
Marleau > Crosby
Iggy > Sullivan after tonights game.
7 trades remaining - which i like.
With my roster value under 70 mill it would not be beneficial for me to move out of Auld. I prefer to keep the $ on the forwards.
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| | | 17 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Fri, Dec 30, 2005, 01:37
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geez..
just figured out I can't afford
Marleau>Datsyuk
Nagy>Sullivan
I COULD go
Nagy>Hartnell
Marleau>Savard tomorrow
or else I could trade Forsberg to free up some cash, but then it'd burn a trade.. I'll figure it out..
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| | | 18 | Slats05
ID: 37133113
Fri, Dec 30, 2005, 09:31
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Wow a playoff pool from two years ago, must of been a pool where your picks are locked cuz your not that great at trading. Hey guys do you think I should trade Hossa for tanguay. Happy New
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| | | 19 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Fri, Dec 30, 2005, 09:57
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I think we may have actually found someone younger than Ira!!!
anyways...Lehtonen update:
The day Thrashers fans — not to mention goalie Kari Lehtonen himself — have been waiting for since opening night is at hand.
At Buffalo Friday night, the highly regarded rookie will start for the second time this season after taking more than two and a half months to recover from groin problems.
Starting on Sunday, the Thrashers face five games in seven days — three on the road. Hartley said for now Lehtonen will not play in back-to-back games, of which the Thrashers have two.
With three games in four days this weekend, Hartley has not informed his goalies as to who will play Sunday's game in Washington and Monday's home game with Ottawa. That decision is in part because the coach is uncertain as to how long Lehtonen might stay healthy.
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| | | 20 | smallwhirled
ID: 3211112519
Fri, Dec 30, 2005, 10:45
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Is this a joke Slats05????
How can you knock Ira so much when you propose THAT trade. Jeez, Atlanta has a 6 in 9 starting today, what are you thinking? You lose a game.
You must be joking dude. Ira sure ain't the best TSN player, but at least he tries and doesn't post trades that lose games from players with similar ability.
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| | | 21 | Slats05
ID: 37133113
Fri, Dec 30, 2005, 14:06
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Of course that is a joke only a fool would make that trade, the funny thing smallwhirled is thats a trade he rec last week, I think I made my point, good luck to you all. I am outta here. Slats
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| | | 22 | smallwhirled
ID: 3211112519
Fri, Dec 30, 2005, 14:44
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well alright, since I don't know you're posting stlye, I couldn't tell if it was a joke.....
I'm thinking of selling McCabe pretty soon to gain 4 games, we'll see.
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| | | 23 | C.SuperFreak
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Fri, Dec 30, 2005, 16:32
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Iggy > Sullivan and leaves 3.8 mill in the bank and 7 trades.
and now I start to think about what if's.....
I could upgrade Demitra to Forsberg and lock in Foppa until the olympic break.
Or
Upgrade my low end d man to zidlicky.
Or
Upgrade Auld.
With my $ situation I can only do 1 of the above moves and it will leave me pretty thin in the cash left column.
If I go Demitra > Foppa I'll do it today or tomorrow because I like Forsbergs opponents (clb/bos/nyr/was/nj/chi) compared to Demitra's (dal/dal/pho/san/ana/bos) however Philly's next 7 games are all on the road.
Or
Upgrading Michalek > Zidlicky will give me a pretty solid team (except for the wild ride auld) and will have to be done today.
Or
I'm thinking of holding Auld for this week and then moving into Gerber.
These are all 1 trade moves. Anything else would involve or 2 more trades.
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| | | 24 | CrazyClowns
ID: 37924214
Fri, Dec 30, 2005, 17:04
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Went
Iginla => Ovechkin
Gleason => Redden
Lecavalier =>Datsyuk tomorrow
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| | | 25 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Fri, Dec 30, 2005, 17:20
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went
Marleau>Datsyuk
Nagy>Zetterberg
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| | | 26 | TT
ID: 52715301
Fri, Dec 30, 2005, 17:32
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You are looking too short term imo. Detroit doesn't even have a good schedule to warrant loading up on Detroit players. If you already had them and debating whether to sell them or hold them, then that's a different story.
I really want Vokoun. But the only viable way to get him is to sell Foppa. And I see no good options. If only Spezza is healthy.
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| | | 27 | smallwhirled
ID: 3211112519
Fri, Dec 30, 2005, 18:01
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I think it's okay to start looking shorter term if you have a ton of trades. I'm starting to look more short term now, but then again, I have 7 trades with 0 problems on my team....so it just depends on the situation.
C. SuperFreak, I'd do the one that involves selling Demitra because his price is going to be a bloodbath because of his ownership + tons of C options that are good buys right now. That trade at least makes sense in terms of getting the most RV out of it.
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| | | 28 | TT
ID: 52715301
Fri, Dec 30, 2005, 19:34
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Son of a...... OTT/NYI game started earlier than scheduled. So I couldn't get Vokoun from Hasek. So I ended up trading Forsberg and upgrading Gerber to Vokoun. Sorry Kari Lehtonen, maybe later you will find your own way onto my team.
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| | | 29 | C.SuperFreak
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Sat, Dec 31, 2005, 00:11
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Alfredsson. Reports indicate a cracked rib and will be out a minimum of one week.
- source canoe sports.
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| | | 30 | TT
ID: 52715301
Sat, Dec 31, 2005, 00:21
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There are at least 2 interesting choices from Alfredson that I can see. Either Jaromir or Alexander [Ovechkin].
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| | | 31 | C.SuperFreak
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Sat, Dec 31, 2005, 00:34
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TT, I was looking at the same pair. Ovechkin's 8 or Jagr's 6. Both with tough opponents.
It was a quick glance and I might have to investigate the options a little further.
On a side note I'm putting Nash on my radar.
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| | | 32 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Sat, Dec 31, 2005, 02:33
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I think Palffy, Naslund and Zetterberg warrant looks as well. Will be interesting to see where everyone goes. Although, i would think that Ovechkin and Jagr would have lead the way in gains the next couple of days among wingers regardless.
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| | | 33 | walk
ID: 1311542118
Sat, Dec 31, 2005, 08:37
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I went to Jagr 2x, going with the blue chip choice, and also biased being a local NYer and a NYR fan.
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| | | 34 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Sat, Dec 31, 2005, 09:52
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Alfredsson -> Jagr
I hate these coin flip type of trades. I've been wrong a few times lately, so i hope this one pans out.
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| | | 35 | The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Sat, Dec 31, 2005, 10:30
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Jagr for me too, that PIT game today is too tempting to pass up.
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| | | 36 | samuli
ID: 58933118
Sat, Dec 31, 2005, 10:54
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How about Gagne from Alfredsson, or am I the only one without Gagne on my roster up until this point? Already have Jagr, so it's between Ovechkin and Gagne for me... I might be tempted to go Alfie --> Gagne today and Gaborik --> Ovechkin tomorrow but then I'll miss today's coin on Ovechkin... Something I'm not comfortable with considering my recent drastic drop in RV. Hmmm...
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| | | 37 | TT
ID: 52715301
Sat, Dec 31, 2005, 12:14
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I decided to goto Ovechkin. My blueprint this year has been more games = more points. Obviously sometimes it doesn't work out that way. But I need the cash because I have a dream of one day owning McCabe anyways. Oh yeah, and I want Forsberg back.
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| | | 38 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Dec 31, 2005, 13:44
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Umm where the hell is Gagne? I just bought him, not happy to not see him out there...
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| | | 39 | urkel
ID: 289950
Sat, Dec 31, 2005, 14:56
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Oh crap! I just came in here and saw the note about Alfredsson. both NYR and WAS games already started, and Jagr and Ovechkin each with points already. :(
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| | | 40 | C.SuperFreak
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ID: 53771616
Sat, Dec 31, 2005, 15:09
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Gagne out with the flu.
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| | | 41 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Sat, Dec 31, 2005, 16:37
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how long?
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| | | 42 | caribou
ID: 5511473115
Sat, Dec 31, 2005, 16:48
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Same here, just bought him before his game and did not see anything on him before !!!
CRAP
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| | | 43 | TT
ID: 52715301
Sat, Dec 31, 2005, 17:35
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Guess it's true what they say.....when it rains it pours. I had 8 trades yesterday thinking I was in good shape so I 'splurged' and used 2 trades. Then Alfredson goes down, and now possibly Gagne. So suddenly I went from 8 trades down to 4 trades, without really gaining anything.
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| | | 44 | C.SuperFreak
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Sat, Dec 31, 2005, 17:49
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I'll hold off on the Gagne decision until tomorrow. Gagne was locked in before most of the managers got wind of his illness so his rv isn't going to take a big hit.
However if he's out for the next game, and you have a trade surplus, it might be worth picking up a Sullivan or a Kovalchuk or just holding.
It's a 3 game gamble for 2 trades.
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| | | 45 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Sun, Jan 01, 2006, 07:55
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I don't have enough to swing Gagne -> Kovalchuk, already have Sullivan and the other two interesting 3 game options in Kariya and Hossa haven't exactly been tearing it up lately.
I'm tempted to go to Ovechkin for 2 and see how Gagne is on Thursday.
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| | | 46 | smallwhirled
ID: 3211112519
Sun, Jan 01, 2006, 14:39
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I did Gagne > Hossa for 2 games and some RV. I wish I could've gotten Ilya, but I have a ton of trades and I feel it's a decent time to use one here.
Tried Hossa over Kariya just on a hunch, if I go back to Gagne off this slot I wanted a 2 game gain and not one which was Ovechkin.
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| | | 47 | TT
ID: 52715301
Sun, Jan 01, 2006, 15:02
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I hated to goto Ilya, since I am forced to trade out of him next week. But those 2 PIT games at the end of the week is just too tempting.
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| | | 48 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Sun, Jan 01, 2006, 15:12
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oh crap... I didnt realize that ATL-WAS game was so early. I just friggin woke up.
Missed out on the Gagne>Hossa..
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| | | 49 | TT
ID: 52715301
Sun, Jan 01, 2006, 15:37
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M. Hossa scores.
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| | | 50 | caribou
ID: 311563116
Sun, Jan 01, 2006, 15:43
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Before this afternoon game
Gaborik > Kovalchuk (the 2 PIT games are inviting)
Any word on Gagne's status ?
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| | | 51 | TT
ID: 52715301
Sun, Jan 01, 2006, 16:17
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Expected to return next game. In the meantime....Hossa scores another goal. Looks like going Ilya instead of Hossa isn't looking too good for this afternoon.
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| | | 52 | samuli
ID: 58933118
Sun, Jan 01, 2006, 17:51
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afternoon games! Yep, missed the Gagne --> Kovalchuk thing...
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| | | 53 | walk
ID: 1311542118
Mon, Jan 02, 2006, 08:46
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According to the Ottawa Sun, Spezza is back today and there's no timetable for Alfredsson's return.
According to Philly.com, Gagne practised yesterday and will play today.
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| | | 54 | C.SuperFreak
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Mon, Jan 02, 2006, 11:37
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*EARLY GAME ALERT*
Philly Boston game starts at 1pm est.
Calgary Chicago is a 3pm est start.
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| | | 55 | caribou
ID: 311563116
Mon, Jan 02, 2006, 11:49
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So Gagne should play....
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| | | 56 | smallwhirled
ID: 3211112519
Mon, Jan 02, 2006, 14:16
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Jokinen > Spezza, early, for RV, risking it.
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| | | 57 | C.SuperFreak
Sustainer
ID: 53771616
Mon, Jan 02, 2006, 14:33
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Senators Thrashers also starts at 3pm
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| | | 58 | TT
ID: 52715301
Mon, Jan 02, 2006, 15:05
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That is some risk smallwhirled. How much money RV are you expected from the trade anyways?? Jokinen is making pretty good money too.
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| | | 59 | Little M
ID: 3311321211
Mon, Jan 02, 2006, 15:17
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Anyone have any news on Hasek?
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| | | 60 | smallwhirled
ID: 3211112519
Mon, Jan 02, 2006, 15:20
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Not sure maybe net 150K or something for the next 2 days vs holding Jokinen. I was gonna do the trade, anyway, 2 days from now letting Spezza get a game under his belt. I just decided to take a risk. When I have a lot of trades, I tend to take a lot of risks of buying into players early. It's something I've done a lot in the past that has worked. Just trying to make as much RV as fast as I can still.
I don't know, it all depends on each situation for me. Jokinen, I'm selling early, wheras, Hossa and Savard, I may wait longer until 1/8 instead of 1/5 to get Philly players. It just all depends on what I'm feeling at the time.
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| | | 61 | smallwhirled
ID: 3211112519
Mon, Jan 02, 2006, 15:22
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Hasek supposedly tweaked his back in warmups. Really not sure how serious it is, but most likely, if it's not a big deal, I'm holding.
Nittymaki owners just got a youknowwhat.
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| | | 62 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Mon, Jan 02, 2006, 15:27
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not tryin to sound like a jerk or anythin, but think of the possibilities having an Auld-Emery duo compared to a Hasek-Auld duo.
Frees up like.... 7 mil
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| | | 64 | Slats
ID: 511442415
Mon, Jan 02, 2006, 16:47
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Do you sleep with auld, LEHTONEN & NITTYMAN I am lovin it.
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| | | 65 | walk
ID: 1311542118
Mon, Jan 02, 2006, 17:08
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So, did Garnett or Lehtonen get injured in this game? I see that they have both played, and if I deduce it correctly, Garnett started, but was pulled in the 2nd for Lehtonen.
If anyone has any clarification on this, it would be appreciated (I have Lehtonen).
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| | | 66 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, Jan 02, 2006, 17:13
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Garnett just got yanked for giving up 2 "soft" goals.
7-2 Thrashers in the 3rd :)
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| | | 67 | Slats
ID: 511442415
Mon, Jan 02, 2006, 17:31
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They pulled garnett after letting in two goals no injury just soft one, emery has to be -80 wow.
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| | | 68 | walk
ID: 1311542118
Mon, Jan 02, 2006, 17:34
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So, if I have Lehtonen, will I get the 50?
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| | | 69 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Mon, Jan 02, 2006, 17:54
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i think Garnett gets the win since he was in there for the game winner?
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| | | 70 | walk
ID: 1311542118
Mon, Jan 02, 2006, 17:56
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Dang, dang, dang!
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| | | 71 | walk
ID: 1311542118
Mon, Jan 02, 2006, 18:06
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Wait, is that really the rule for goalie wins? If a goalie starts a game, his team scores in the opening minute, he subsequently gets injured and comes out, and the game ends 1-0, then the goalie who played all of 1 of 60 minutes would stand to get the "W"...? Can't be, right?
Must be an official scorer's discretion, but I really dunno.
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| | | 72 | TT
ID: 52715301
Mon, Jan 02, 2006, 18:15
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ATL had 4 goals before Garnett was pulled. So OTT would have to score at least 5 goals to deny Garnett of the win.
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| | | 73 | TT
ID: 52715301
Mon, Jan 02, 2006, 18:17
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Well 4 if you dont consider shootout a goal :)
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| | | 74 | TT
ID: 52715301
Mon, Jan 02, 2006, 18:23
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It's basicaly like the starting pitcher in baseball.
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| | | 75 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Mon, Jan 02, 2006, 18:43
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71, From what I remember from my scorekeeping days I believe that is correct. Whoever was in net for the GWG gets the win. I remember Patrick Roy being pretty pissed off about a game where he got pulled down 1, his team scored two quick goals and they put Roy back in... and he found out after he wasn't getting the W.
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| | | 76 | walk
ID: 1311542118
Mon, Jan 02, 2006, 18:52
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Interesting rule that probably works out most of the time except for unusual circumstances like I hypothesized in post #71...I lose out though today, even though Lehtonen had 33 minutes compared to 27 for Garnett.
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| | | 77 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Tue, Jan 03, 2006, 08:18
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Rough goings from last nights action. Got steamrolled by Kovalchuk, Niittymaki and McCabe owners. Alex Auld and the Vancouver Canucks disgust me.
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| | | 78 | Tuques
ID: 480492816
Tue, Jan 03, 2006, 09:23
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Now what to do.....
I have McCabe and he has a 4 in 14, should I trade him for Lidstrom or Mathieu for their 7 games in the mean time.... I know it not the best thing to do playing with the D-man but McCabe could see a significant lost in money today....
On the flip side I have only one trade left and Hasek his on there, here is was I got from Ottawa Sun this morning :
Already without captain Daniel Alfredsson, the Senators lost goalie Dominik Hasek in warmup with a sore back. He wasn't able to make his scheduled start.
"I just felt something in my lower back in the warmup," said Hasek, who added he hopes to play tomorrow against Washington.
"I wouldn't have been able to help the team because I wasn't really able to move around much. I felt bad because Alfredsson was already out of the lineup."
Should I use my last trade to get rid of Hasek and if so for who???
The only option I could see is Osgood or Legace from Detroit, or Vokoun but I dislike Nas opponent and Nas hasn't been playing verry well lately??
Tuques
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| | | 79 | walk
ID: 236779
Tue, Jan 03, 2006, 10:18
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Hasek is old, but he says he should be able to play the next game. The trade does not seem to be critical NOW, unless there's an obvious alternative NOW. By the way, I have Hasek 2x, too. So, I am inclined to hold (and I have more trades than you do). I'd like to get more news though...!
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| | | 80 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Tue, Jan 03, 2006, 17:15
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Just a heads up,
Manny Legace is expected back tonight.
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| | | 81 | KoGs
ID: 52715301
Tue, Jan 03, 2006, 18:55
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Spezza said he might miss more time.
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