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| Posted by: C.SuperFreak
- [127452811] Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 12:45
Yahoo! auto-renewal and auto-notifications have been sent out.
Please let me know if you are in or out.
Keepers 4. Only allowed to keep 1 goalie.
Last years rosters have been imported for ease of reference.
Old business from last year:
Roster positions to draft:
3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 5 D, 1 Util, 2 G, 4 bench.
Miscellaenous positions:
1 IR position for IR players
1 IR+ position for day to day, and out type players.
Draft Order is the reverse of the final finish from last year.
Forwards/Defensemen Stat Categories:
Goals (G), Assists (A), Plus/Minus (+/-), Penalty Minutes (PIM), Powerplay Points (PPP), Shots on Goal (SOG), Hits (HIT)
Goaltenders Stat Categories:
Wins (W), Goals Against Average (GAA), Save Percentage (SV%), Shutouts (SHO)
Draft date and keepers date TBD.
email: the-bud @ shaw.ca for any issues or requests to manage a vacant spot.
(remove the spaces)
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| | | 1 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 127452811
Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 13:19
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Current scoring categories vs the categories available. I'd prefer to balance these out. Maybe add Game winning goal and shorthanded points categories to skaters to offset the shutout category? Or remove one goalie category. Up for suggestions as usual and if enough responses I'll make adjustments. | Goalies | Keep Yes/No | | Wins | current | | Goals Against Average | current | | Save Percentage | current | | Shutouts | current | | Goalies | Add Yes/No | | Games Started | | | Losses | | | Goals Against | | | Shots Against | | | Saves | | | | | Skaters | Keep Yes/No | | Goals | current | | Assists | current | | Plus/Minus | current | | Penalty Minutes | current | | Powerplay Points | current | | Shots on goal | current | | Hits | current | | Skaters | Add Yes/No | | Points | | | Powerplay goals | | | powerplay assists | | | shorthanded goals | | | Shorthanded assists | | | Shorthanded points | | | Game Winning Goals | | | shooting percentage | | | faceoffs won | | | faceoffs lost | | | blocks | | | | |
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| | | 2 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 127452811
Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 13:34
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| DRAFT ORDER | MANAGER | | 1 | Taxman | | 2 | The Dienasty | | 3 | Perm Dudes | | 4 | Toral | | 5 | Little M | | 6 | MailedFoot | | 7 | C. SuperFreak | | 8 | Ira | | 9 | Wolfer | | 10 | Cobwebs | | 11 | Filthy | | 12 | TommyD | | | |
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| | | 3 | wolfer
ID: 447572812
Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 13:59
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I say keep as is.
We need to get a hockey version of what Guru does with the other three sports.
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| | | 4 | The Dienasty
ID: 5470296
Thu, Aug 29, 2019, 07:00
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Thanks for getting us rolling, CSF.
I do feel more balance could be introduced to mellow out the goalie stat effects on standingS. I’m in favor of introducing Blocks as a skater category. There’s enough historical data available to peg trends among skaters to make informed picks, and it’s a high counting stat (unlike goalie shoutouts for example).
The only down side is there’s not a lot variance among forward block totals, and the big blockers are basically exclusively defensemen.
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| | | 5 | filthy
ID: 45320290
Fri, Aug 30, 2019, 02:41
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Thanks CSF! Stoked for 2020 vision!
My vote would be for remove GAA and PIM. Alternate to GAA would be SO, either one.
In their place would be GWG and BLK. Alternate to BLK would be SHP, either one.
Increased appeal for good goalies on bad teams if we remove GAA.
Increasing appeal for defensemen isn't so bad. Giving some value to the PK specialists wouldn't be so bad either.
Mostly prefer GWG because the top skilled players tend to lead this category. H/PIM or BLK/H favours grit enough that adding value to the top skilled players wouldn't be an overwhelming factor.
Just some thoughts, not picky on specifics overall.
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| | | 6 | Ira
ID: 16332112
Fri, Aug 30, 2019, 07:59
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Cheers CSF
Agree with filthy about removing PIM, I think I've brought it up in the past, and actually was going to suggest removing GAA to balance out the goalie stats, with SO being the next one out if needed.
Not sure how I feel about blocked shots though, might be more inclined to add FOW or GWG myself.
If we keep SO I think GWG would be the skater equivalent
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| | | 8 | Toral
ID: 9541311
Fri, Aug 30, 2019, 08:00
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No objection to just adding blocks, or substituting them for PIM.
Against removing GAA.
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| | | 9 | Cobwebs
ID: 51783017
Fri, Aug 30, 2019, 18:08
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Not sure what to think. First thought is that shooting percentage would be a category worth exploring, much like SO which is freakish, but maybe equally spread out between forwards and D. Just removing SO could also be an option.
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| | | 10 | mailedfoot
ID: 597203018
Fri, Aug 30, 2019, 19:21
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In
I feel like Save Percentage and Goals Against Average are somewhat redundant. I would support dropping GAA altogether or dropping GAA and adding Saves. Making this swap would help boost goalies who play for poorer teams, hopefully making the goalie stats more competitive.
If we end up with 4 goalie categories I would support adding a skating category. I could support blocks, SH points, or face offs won.
I could also support swapping blocks for PM. I would not be in favor of GWG or shooting percentage.
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| | | 11 | Toral
ID: 9541311
Fri, Aug 30, 2019, 20:59
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I should note, as I did last year, that Faceoffs Won is a bright line for me. I won't play in a league that uses it
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| | | 12 | taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Tue, Sep 03, 2019, 11:18
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I'm not a fan of FOW. Blocks would be OK as a replacement for PIM. Agree that GAA is a redundant category.
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| | | 13 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 31828311
Tue, Sep 03, 2019, 12:28
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Let me consolidate the results and put it in table format for better visualization.
Thanks for the feedback.
FWIW, I'm not big on Faceoffs either.
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| | | 15 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 31828311
Tue, Sep 03, 2019, 13:07
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Still waiting on feedback from some managers. It appears we could be making some adjustments for this season. RGFHL 2020 DecisionsRGFHL 2020 Decisions | Goalies | Taxman | The Dienasty | Toral | MailedFoot | Ira | Wolfer | Filthy | C.SuperFreak | Cobwebs | Perm Dudes | LittleM | TommyD | | Wins | current | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | | | | | Goals Against Average | current | REMOVE | keep | keep | REMOVE | REMOVE | keep | REMOVE | REMOVE | keep | | | | | Save Percentage | current | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | | | | | Shutouts | current | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | REMOVE | | | | | Goalies | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | | Games Started | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | | | | | Losses | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | | | | | Goals Against | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | | | | | Shots Against | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | | | | | Saves | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | | | | | Skaters | Taxman | The Dienasty | Toral | MailedFoot | Ira | Wolfer | Filthy | C.SuperFreak | Cobwebs | Perm Dudes | LittleM | TommyD | | Goals | current | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | | | | | Assists | current | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | | | | | Plus/Minus | current | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | | | | | Penalty Minutes | current | REMOVE | keep | REMOVE | REMOVE | REMOVE | keep | REMOVE | REMOVE | keep | | | | | Powerplay Points | current | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | | | | | Shots on goal | current | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | | | | | Hits | current | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | | | | | Skaters | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Points | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | | | | | Powerplay goals | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | | | | | powerplay assists | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | | | | | shorthanded goals | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | | | | | Shorthanded assists | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | | | | | Shorthanded points | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | | | | | Game Winning Goals | no | no | no | no | ADD | no | ADD | ADD | no | | | | | shooting percentage | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | ADD | | | | | faceoffs won | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | | | | | faceoffs lost | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | | | | | blocks | ADD | ADD | ADD | ADD | no | no | ADD | ADD | no | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
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| | | 16 | Toral
ID: 9541311
Tue, Sep 03, 2019, 14:42
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A correction: I'm not actively FOR removing PIM, just OK with substituting blocks for it.
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| | | 17 | Toral
ID: 9541311
Wed, Sep 04, 2019, 17:57
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BTW, anybody have any opinions about Dobber Hockey, subscribing to it? I need some help dealing with the sharks here. ;) The "hockey pool" mags are useless.
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| | | 18 | filthy
ID: 45320290
Thu, Sep 05, 2019, 04:13
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Never subscribed to Dobber but have looked at them before. I like the depth of their rankings and put more trust into them than I do Yahoo's prerankings. But I still try to trust my gut more than anything. Not sure why, I've done many a facepalm when reading over past rationales! But seriously, none of them are perfect. Dobber kind of let me down on a few hunches, and I've let myself down repeatedly. The preseason mags or expert columns are generally not as in depth as I'd like. Good to get up to speed and shake the rust.
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| | | 19 | filthy
ID: 45320290
Thu, Sep 05, 2019, 04:13
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Nice chart CSF
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| | | 20 | Little M
ID: 29855622
Sat, Sep 07, 2019, 00:24
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I am really busy the next couple of weeks, so that might mess up the draft, depending on when it starts, so if you want to bring in a replacement, I am okay with that. Otherwise, I am back for more punishment.
I am not thrilled with any of the skater categories that we don't already have. Blocks might make some defensemen more attractive, but I don't know if that is particularly useful. I think the easiest way to better balance goalie and skater categories is to remove shutouts from the list. I find SO to be quite random and because there are a small number of them, 2-3 extra SO in a season can make a huge point difference.
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| | | 21 | The Dienasty
ID: 53746249
Sun, Sep 08, 2019, 10:56
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Re: #17
Dobber's a good resource. I'm not subscribed there but their free charts and articles are good reads. Written by real puck heads.
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| | | 22 | Toral
ID: 9541311
Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 14:30
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Well, guys, my RotoWire sub runs out today. So I guess I'll have tu run stats for all reasonable possibilities of category choice....
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| | | 23 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 268181015
Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 16:19
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Thanks for the inputs. Here's how peoples thoughts and opinions played out. I loosely summarized them. If we had to make changes it would appear that Goals Against Average and PIM's would be removed. Add/substitute blocks. | Goalies | Taxman | The Dienasty | Toral | MailedFoot | Ira | Wolfer | Filthy | C.SuperFreak | Cobwebs | LittleM | Perm Dudes | TommyD | | Wins | current | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | | | | Goals Against Average | current | REMOVE | keep | keep | REMOVE | REMOVE | keep | REMOVE | REMOVE | keep | keep | | | | Save Percentage | current | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | | | | Shutouts | current | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | REMOVE | REMOVE | | | | Goalies | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | | Games Started | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | | | | Losses | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | | | | Goals Against | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | | | | Shots Against | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | | | | Saves | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | | | | Skaters | Taxman | The Dienasty | Toral | MailedFoot | Ira | Wolfer | Filthy | C.SuperFreak | Cobwebs | LittleM | Perm Dudes | TommyD | | Goals | current | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | | | | Assists | current | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | | | | Plus/Minus | current | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | | | | Penalty Minutes | current | REMOVE | keep | REMOVE | REMOVE | REMOVE | keep | REMOVE | REMOVE | keep | keep | | | | Powerplay Points | current | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | | | | Shots on goal | current | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | | | | Hits | current | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | keep | | | | Skaters | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | Add Yes/No | | Points | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | | | | Powerplay goals | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | | | | powerplay assists | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | | | | shorthanded goals | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | | | | Shorthanded assists | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | | | | Shorthanded points | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | | | | Game Winning Goals | no | no | no | no | ADD | no | ADD | ADD | no | no | | | | shooting percentage | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | ADD | no | | | | faceoffs won | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | | | | faceoffs lost | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | no | | | | blocks | ADD | ADD | ADD | ADD | no | no | ADD | ADD | no | ADD | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
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| | | 24 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 268181015
Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 16:23
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Key Dates:
Keepers Due Sunday September 15th.
Draft will start Wednesday September 18th.
Season Opener Wednesday October 2nd.
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| | | 25 | Toral
ID: 9541311
Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 17:29
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The e-mail says that categories will be set on Yahoo on Monday, Sept. 16, which is *after* keepers are due. I don't think it is wise to require people to select keepers before they know what the categories are. Further, people may want to make trades for keepers. (I know that last year I was planning to try this year, assuming that Saros would be between the pipes for Nashville. How was I to know that the old man would still be there?) It is, however, very difficult to consider trades for goalies, for example, without knowing how many categories there are going to be for goalies.
I would suggest that you make the category determination final by Friday evening at the latest if keepers are going to be due Sunday.
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| | | 26 | mailedfoot
ID: 597203018
Tue, Sep 10, 2019, 19:41
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I agree with Toral (post 25)
Further, at the risk of muddying the water even more, I would just like to say that I am fine with whatever decisions are made even if that is no changes. The categories and rules are going to be the same for everybody regardless and I am not hell-bent to promote any of my offered suggestions. They were just my thoughts at the time.
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| | | 27 | Ira
ID: 16332112
Wed, Sep 11, 2019, 01:17
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I have mixed feelings now about removing the PIMs now that I was planning to keep Tom Wilson haha
Nah I'm definitely for changing things up, I can't remember the last year I finished higher than 6th
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| | | 28 | Toral
ID: 9541311
Wed, Sep 11, 2019, 10:46
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Let me concur with Foot that no change would be fine with me. As I look at goalie rankings with and without GAA I note that 1) removing GAA increases the importance of shutouts, which are an anomalous category; 2) removing GAA increases the importance of wins and therefore being on a good team (and being a workhorse). The rankings without GAA don't look right to me
Unlike Ira, I don't think that messing with the categories is going to improve my team performance any.
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| | | 29 | Ira
ID: 16332112
Wed, Sep 11, 2019, 23:43
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Total, I think GAA and wins can have a direct correlation. Typically goalies on the best teams will have a lower GAA and in accordance, high amount of wins. I believe that taking away that linked stat gives greater importance to the good goalies on bad teams. With that being said, I'd be happy to remove the SO category as well, moreso than GAA
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| | | 30 | The Dienasty
ID: 5470296
Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 01:40
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I’m also in favor of keeping GAA and removing SO instead. SO the most random category there is, accumulates very slowly and is near impossible to predict year to year.
Removing PIMs for Blocks I’m good with, but in the spirit of the original intent to further balance out the scoring categories (ie balancing goalie vs skater impact) I’d like to propose we just introduce Blocks, and keep PIMs as well. So we’d be at 8 Skater cats, 3 Goalie cats, vs 6/4 split before.
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| | | 32 | The Dienasty
ID: 5470296
Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 01:48
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Correction old category split was 7/4. My proposal would leave it 8/3 in favor of skater cats.
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| | | 33 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 168411311
Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 12:44
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We wanted change but could agree on change this year and we couldn't reach a consensus.
GAA's, Shutouts, PIM's and Blocks are the most debated items. I removed the rest of the items because they didn't get enough traction.
Below is the summary from your thoughts and inputs. We needed 7 votes to move on an item and we couldn't reach that milestone with 2 managers not providing input.
Goaltending categories:
Will remain as is with 4 categories counting in the points total.
GAA's was not removed. Could not reach a majority consensus.
Shutouts was not removed. Could reach majority consensus.
Skater categories:
Will remain as is with 7 categories counting in the point totals.
Some managers wanted an extra category if goalie categories stayed at 4.
Others wanted to Substitute blocks for PIM’s.
While some wanted PIMS removed and blocks added.
PermDudes – keep as is. (no response)
TommyD – keep as is. (no response)
Wolfer – Keep as is.
Cobwebs – Keep as is.
LittleM – Keep as is
Ira – Remove PIMs. Add FOW or GWG.
C.SuperFreak – Remove PIM. Add Blocks.
Filthy – Remove PIM’s. Add GWG and Blocks. 2 skater categories to be added.
Taxman – Substitute PIM’s for Blocks
Toral – Add Blocks or substituting them for PIMs. Keep categories as is.
The Dienasty – Add Blocks to neutralize the 4 goalie categories. (keep PIMs)
MailedFoot – Add Blocks or FOW, or SHP. (keep PIMS). Keep categories as is.
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| | | 34 | Fosten
ID: 135162321
Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 17:24
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This was a very interesting discussion to read. I had been asking myself many of the same questions in regards to category changes in the Happy Hockey league. Due to your various insights and perspectives, we've decided to switch PIMs to BLKs, and add in Goalie Minutes Played.
- 7x4 Rotisserie: (G, A, +/-, BLK, PPP, SOG, FOW) x (W, GAA, SV%, MIN)
Thank you all for your diligence! Your debate was relatable and helpful in many ways!
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| | | 35 | Ira
ID: 16332112
Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 22:00
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Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't 6 of the 10 voters vote to remove PIMs? Should we email the other 2 owners before we shit the books on this?
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| | | 36 | Toral
ID: 9541311
Sat, Sep 14, 2019, 10:01
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Just a note: while the chart was very helpful, I noted when it was put up that I did NOT "vote for" removing PIM, if you are counting me as a "vote" to remove PIMs. As the intro to the chart said, it was a loose summary of opinions.
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| | | 37 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 208441510
Sun, Sep 15, 2019, 11:44
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I'm getting a bit concerned that we haven't heard from Perm Dude or TommyD. I'll hit them up again with another email.
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| | | 38 | tommyd
ID: 488121511
Sun, Sep 15, 2019, 12:12
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Sorry guys I was on vacation , just got home I'm in. Not sure if it's too late to add my opinion but I'd say keep GAA and add blocks. For my keepers:
McDavid
Stamkos
Hall
MA Fleury
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| | | 39 | Perm Dude
ID: 278221515
Sun, Sep 15, 2019, 16:22
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In!
I recall talking about PIM's as a positive stat with Toral maybe 25 years ago. I'm all for getting rid of it--it is a negative stat and keeping it is like using higher GAA's to rank goalies.
(and with new NHL rules in place for some time about hitting, etc, there are fewer goons around, thankfully).
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| | | 40 | Perm Dude
ID: 278221515
Sun, Sep 15, 2019, 16:25
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Posting keepers here?
Bishop (G)
Bergeron (C)
Suddan (D)
Giroux (RW)
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| | | 41 | Toral
ID: 9541311
Sun, Sep 15, 2019, 16:34
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I recall talking about PIM's as a positive stat with Toral maybe 25 years ago. I'm all for getting rid of it--it is a negative stat and keeping it is like using higher GAA's to rank goalies.
I recall that well. It took considerable persuasion to get you to allow it as a stat. Of course at that time there was nothing like hits or blocked shots to replace it with.
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| | | 42 | Perm Dude
ID: 278221515
Sun, Sep 15, 2019, 16:46
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Good point about now-available replacement stats.
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| | | 43 | Ira
ID: 457531519
Sun, Sep 15, 2019, 17:54
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Re:35
I was on my phone at work and totally meant to say 'shut' haha. I also didnt read the post above me saying that PIMs are going to be converted to blocks. I am the fool and here are my keepers
Kucherov
Aho
Crosby
Holtby
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| | | 44 | Toral
ID: 9541311
Sun, Sep 15, 2019, 18:24
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My keepers are entered on Yahoo!.
They are
Bobrovsky
Rantanen
Malkin
Scheifle
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| | | 45 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 208441510
Sun, Sep 15, 2019, 22:30
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J Tavares
L Draisaitl
A Ovechkin
F Andersen
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| | | 46 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 208441510
Sun, Sep 15, 2019, 22:37
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Good to see everyone back. Let's keep the Blocks & PIM discussion open for next year since there is significant interest. We can explore options throughout the season.
I've never seen a year with so many big name unsigned RFA's. It's really going to impact a few teams ability to complete. Winnipeg may struggle out of the gate.
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| | | 47 | taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 00:11
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keepers on yahoo:
Tyler Seguin
Roman Josi
Patrik Laine
Matt Murray
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| | | 48 | Cobwebs
ID: 4983166
Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 07:03
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Nathan MacKinnon
Auston Matthews
Mitchell Marner
Erik Karlsson
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| | | 49 | The Dienasty
ID: 5470296
Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 10:33
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Time to rock n roll:
G J. Binnington
D J. Carlson
C S. Monahan
RW P. Kessel
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| | | 50 | mailedfoot
ID: 47358911
Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 11:08
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Rask G
Giordano D
Letang D
Trocheck C
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| | | 51 | Little M
ID: 168121611
Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 12:12
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P. Kane RW
Marchand LW
Eichel C
Gibson - G
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| | | 52 | filthy
ID: 45320290
Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 16:44
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Entered on yahoo.
Price, Pastrnak, Burns, Petterson.
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| | | 53 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 208441510
Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 10:51
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I've posted the link to draftime in Yahoo! and I've sent out the email. So check your email for the Yahoo! message. Please login and register. Once we've done that, I'll add the keepers and set the draft order.
Taxman has offered co-manage the league and he is also set up as a co-admin of the draft. So if I'm away and help is required Taxman can be consulted.
Hopefully I can get it all done so that we can start drafting tomorrow.
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| | | 54 | The Dienasty
ID: 5470296
Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 14:06
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I should be in. Thanks CSF.
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| | | 55 | taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 15:27
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My addy if needed
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| | | 56 | wolfer
ID: 59259916
Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 20:13
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Give me a sec and I'll post mine....
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| | | 57 | wolfer
ID: 59259916
Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 20:14
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Hedman - D
Wheeler- RW
Point - C
Vasilevskiy - G
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| | | 58 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 208441510
Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 22:02
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Thanks Wolfer. All keepers are entered in Draftime. I'll open the draft tomorrow. No clock to start and I'll try to keep Yahoo! updated.
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| | | 59 | mailedfoot
ID: 15825517
Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 21:16
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I apologize for taking so long to pick. Things got a little hectic at work this afternoon and I somehow I missed that it was my pick.
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| | | 61 | Little m
ID: 438432414
Tue, Sep 24, 2019, 15:46
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Correction for the Yahoo roster.
I should have Zach Warenski as my round 16 pick, not Markus Granlund. Draftime is correct.
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| | | 62 | tommyd
ID: 468252419
Tue, Sep 24, 2019, 20:25
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I made a mistake with one of my last picks, I wanted James Reimer instead of McElhinney. If I could get it changed that would be great, just got them mixed up as I was in a rush. If it is too much trouble or against the rules , no biggie.
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| | | 63 | taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Tue, Sep 24, 2019, 20:44
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re:62 I will make change in Yahoo and Reimer removed from Daftime available players
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| | | 64 | tommyd
ID: 468252419
Tue, Sep 24, 2019, 21:32
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Thx
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| | | 65 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 208441510
Tue, Sep 24, 2019, 23:37
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Thanks LittleM. Yahoo! is a big finicky when it comes to manually selecting players and putting them on teams. We'll double check the picks once the draftime draft is completed to ensure the right players are on the right teams.
Thanks Taxman for staying on top of things.
We're in the home stretch. Just a couple of rounds to go.
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| | | 66 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 208441510
Tue, Sep 24, 2019, 23:50
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TommyD, Reimer added in Draftime. McElhinney is added back to available players.
I checked Yahoo! and he's on your drafted player roster.
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| | | 68 | Cobwebs
ID: 55859268
Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 10:00
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Sorry for spoiling the party, but PermDude's 16.10 pick is not allowed. He has to fill his D in the draft.
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| | | 69 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 128162612
Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 13:21
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Cobwebs, correct PermDude needs two D. The players he has are invalid and are still avaialable to be drafted.
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| | | 70 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 128162612
Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 13:22
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Removed Vrana and Anderson and replaced them with Woll and Zykov as placeholders.
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| | | 71 | filthy
ID: 45320290
Fri, Sep 27, 2019, 01:43
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my team looks accurate in yahoo, thanks!
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| | | 72 | The Dienasty
ID: 5470296
Fri, Sep 27, 2019, 02:07
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All good here. Let’s do this.
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| | | 73 | Little m
ID: 138582711
Fri, Sep 27, 2019, 12:58
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Thanks to the commissioners and all other participants for making the draft go so smoothly.
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| | | 74 | Cobwebs
ID: 188522715
Fri, Sep 27, 2019, 16:53
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Thanks CSF and all other managers for a fun draft, I had some picks that woke me up at night, but that's OK, it just makes it more interesting:-) I can't wait for the season to start!
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| | | 75 | tommyd
ID: 488121511
Fri, Sep 27, 2019, 17:10
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I feel dumb for asking this but where are you seeing rosters? I have no players under mine.
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| | | 76 | filthy
ID: 45320290
Fri, Sep 27, 2019, 19:53
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not sure about app view but browser view under draft results
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| | | 77 | tommyd
ID: 468252419
Fri, Sep 27, 2019, 20:08
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Awesome thx, team looks good
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| | | 78 | The Dienasty
ID: 5470296
Sun, Sep 29, 2019, 12:21
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I guess we just need to make the rosters live in Yahoo now?
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| | | 79 | Wolfer
ID: 508192919
Sun, Sep 29, 2019, 20:19
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I am good with mine.
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| | | 80 | filthy
ID: 45320290
Sat, Jan 18, 2020, 01:22
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The theme of the season is hindsight, right everybody? That's why I waited this long to make a draft rationale post (that's the ticket...) so with that in mind, here's my 2020 draft recap.
And hopefully for bonus points, a rationale for my recent trade while we're at it.
Keepers- Pastrnak, Price, Petterson, Burns for myself. 2020 Hindsight says I chose wrong on my main decision of Price vs Hellebuyck.
Tommyd, Ira, Superfreak, Little M, Cobwebs have the keepers that I like/liked the most.
I was happy about finishing 2nd last year until planning for 11th pick. We had 11 goalies kept, so I figured with 11th and 14th picks I'd be drafting the 16-20th goalie. Nearly the point where you just wait and grab a skater instead. Saw 5 goalies drafted before my first pick, so I was choosing from Varlamov, Dubnyk, Hellebuyck, Markstrom, Greiss, Kuemper, Lehner. If given the chance, I'd have been interested in choosing from Rinne, Jones, Mrazek, Hart, Grubauer as well. Came down to Landeskog, Dubnyk, Hellebuyck by the time I realized we were drafting. The all around game of Landeskog tempted me into my top pick and the state of the Jets D in the preseason scared me into Dubnyk (18th goalie) on the turnaround. Mrazek, Jones, Huberdeau, Tarasenko my fave picks from the top 2 rounds.
Really wanted to land Stone here. Just missed. I wonder what's wrong with Lehner? Domi really blossomed in Montreal, hard to ignore that while I consider grabbing a 3rd goalie so early. Nothing jumped out enough with Lehner (24th goalie) still around, I really like him as an insurance policy for a fairly shaky top 2. Should've went for Wilson. Or even Hoffman. Starting to become more of a crapshoot. Toews and Nugent-Hopkins both seem like good bets to me. Rittich would've been the really smart bet. Classic 2020. Stone, Wilson, Hoffman, Rittich as my top picks from round 3-6.
3 G, 5 C/LW, 1 RW, 1D after 10 players. Weber, Doughty, Oshie, Zuccarello stood out next to fill some D/RW spots. Meanwhile I missed out on some Nurse, Makar, Lundqvist, Kadri value. Then I went for Hischier, Coleman, Gudas, Edler, Allen, Spurgeon, Olofsson to fill out the squad. Some highlights that I liked at the end of the draft: Halak, Hughes, Crouse, Bertuzzi.
Overall I really liked what I had cooked up. Dropping Allen after about a month was dumb in hindsight, but I've had a lot of letdown from guys like Burns, Landeskog, Nugent-Hopkins, Doughty, Price, Dubnyk that has been a lot to overcome.
Seeing around half of our current top 25 goalies be drafted outside of our top 25 goalie picks, or not at all, has me hopeful that I remember to fill my offense before worrying too much about backup goalie spots in future drafts. This also has me feeling content that we kept things the same for this season. I am still interested to discuss add Blocks or swap PIM for Blocks as a minor change that had a little bit of steam previously.
Based on keepers and draft, my predicted finish: Superfreak, Ira, Little M.
Based on just over half a season it looks like Dienasty, Tax and Cobwebs.
Based on the blockbuster trade today, it looks like it's going to be Filthy (10th) and Perm Dude (12th) shake-n-baking to the front of the pack to finish ahead of Dienasty. Sorry everybody.
Trade logic: was looking around at who might use a D-man based on my overage in GP. Side goal of improving on keeper potential with a current slim pickings for my 4th spot. Maybe 3rd spot too.. Petterson, Pastrnak for sure. Price and Burns again? Uhh, more trades may be in the works if anyone's tinkering. With Burns still being a possible keeper, and Weber possibly sneaking into Burns level, that leaves Doughty/Edler/Gudas/Orlov as my main chips. Doughty being the likeliest to tempt someone. Edler/Gudas/Orlov supplying sneaky value made them very difficult to offer up. Couture just a throw in wild card in case Sharks get hot enough that he can come back and also get hot enough to sneak into keeper consideration. Unlikely. Stalock better fit for me with Dubnyk than Bernier, with Demko being close to cutting block for awhile. Bernier was playing really well and if he returns healthy could see a trade to a contender. If remaining in Detroit, he may be a rollercoaster. Super insignificant tinkering really. The main names: Monahan and Schmaltz both fit my current squads need for assists, as well as having the youth and pedigree to become potential keepers. Oshie is having a solid year but a push for assists is my current fixation. May be wishing I had his goals later on. And I may be wishing I had Doughty instead of a dud like Edler/Gudas/Orlov (hopefully not Weber/Burns in this dud category..) as the season wears on. Outside of early season +/- issues, Doughty has been a solid contributor all around and will be missed.
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| | | 81 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 291271213
Wed, Feb 12, 2020, 14:27
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Goalie stats. SMH. lol.
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| | | 82 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 401302614
Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 15:30
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EBUG, David Ayres, is available in Yahoo!
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| | | 83 | The Dienasty
ID: 3225110
Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 01:07
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Wow. As of today there are 5 teams at 90pts or more. This'll be a fun finish.
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| | | 84 | Cobwebs
ID: 47221214
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 15:03
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NHL suspends season!:-( Was looking forward to a good fight to the finish, even without MacKinnon for a couple of weeks:-(
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| | | 85 | filthy
ID: 45320290
Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 22:20
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From Bettman:
"Our goal is to resume play as soon as it is appropriate and prudent, so that we will be able to complete the season and award the Stanley Cup."
Might not even miss any MacKinnon!
A 2-3 week pause would be 8-12 games.
Fingers crossed! Washed first...
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| | | 86 | The Dienasty
ID: 5470296
Thu, May 28, 2020, 22:10
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Looks like we’re wrapped up. Congrats to Cobwebs!
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| | | 87 | mailedfoot
ID: 597203018
Sun, May 31, 2020, 17:34
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Congratulations, Cobwebs...great season!
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| | | 88 | Cobwebs
ID: 41543312
Wed, Jun 03, 2020, 13:43
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Thanks! Not the way you want to get your first win. It was a lot closer than the standings show. I hope that everyone is safe, and that we can do this again, for a whole season next time.
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| | | 89 | filthy
ID: 45320290
Fri, Nov 20, 2020, 14:15
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Belated congratulations to Cobwebs!
I'm more skeptical than I was in March, but the league seems to be hopeful of starting for January. They did manage to pull off a playoffs, but time grows thin for that January goal.
We could draft during a week long training camp I guess? I'll be ready for whatever I guess?
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| | | 90 | The Dienasty
ID: 2010342322
Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 23:36
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Ready to kick things off again.
Can't imagine NHL wouldn't give everyone at least a 2-3 week heads-up before puck drop. I feel like we could bang out the draft in 7-10 days tops, assuming the troops check-in early enough.
Looks like they just re-launched fantasy hockey on Yahoo
https://hockey.fantasysports.yahoo.com/hockey
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| | | 91 | filthy
ID: 45320290
Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 03:03
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oo must have literally just re-launched!
Had to dig archives to peek at my keeper potentials.
Article I was looking at suggested only a 1-2 week training camp period in order to fit goal of being finished before Olympics.
Just over 5 weeks til January, so I guess some form of an update must be near.
Seems they're kind of stuck making it up as they go.
Which I'm sure we can match as needed.
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| | | 92 | The Dienasty
ID: 5470296
Thu, Nov 26, 2020, 10:05
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I suspect the Canadian team dilemma is one of the hang ups, among others. Last thing I’ve seen is they may play the whole season as one division, and only against each other, which would be crazy.
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| | | 93 | filthy
ID: 45320290
Sun, Dec 13, 2020, 22:41
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Not official but sounds like:
2020-21 NHL season will finally get underway on Jan. 13, 2021 with a shortened 56-game regular season....
An all Canadian division sounds part of the plan.
8-10 games vs each of your divisional opponents I guess? Kind of a joke, but beats nothing.
If it's a 24 team playoff again, then the joke has layers to it at least.
If it's 6 teams from each division making it to the round of 24, then only 1 Canadian team will miss the 'playoffs' again.
Top 2 seeds bye? 3-6 face each other round of 24?
Seems fun.
I really like jokes hahahah
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| | | 94 | The Dienasty
ID: 5470296
Mon, Dec 21, 2020, 03:12
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... And we’re go for 2021!
Pick drop Jan 13, 56 game season. Thanks for activating the league, CSF. Should we get a roll call going?
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| | | 95 | Ira
ID: 2511291422
Mon, Dec 21, 2020, 04:14
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Keen to see some NHL action!
Belated Congrats to Cowebs!
This is all going to have to come together really quick, probably no time to discuss any scoring format changes.
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| | | 96 | Toral
ID: 9541311
Mon, Dec 21, 2020, 11:07
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Here and ready to go, sort of.
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| | | 97 | Perm Dude
ID: 3310302519
Mon, Dec 21, 2020, 16:26
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In.
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| | | 98 | mailedfoot
ID: 15825517
Mon, Dec 21, 2020, 19:28
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In
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| | | 99 | Cobwebs
ID: 391153227
Tue, Dec 22, 2020, 08:53
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In
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| | | 100 | filthy
ID: 45320290
Wed, Dec 23, 2020, 00:12
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In!
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| | | 101 | taxman
SuperDude
ID: 029463114
Thu, Dec 24, 2020, 12:39
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in
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| | | 102 | Little M
ID: 4011562615
Sat, Dec 26, 2020, 16:56
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I will be back, if you want me. The good teams need someone to beat up on.
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| | | 103 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 3011232714
Sun, Dec 27, 2020, 15:23
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sorry for being AWOL. Just a crazy year.
First: Congrats to COBWEBS. Great run and a well deserved victory.
Second: Gimme a couple of days and I'll set up Yahoo!
Third: Thanks to Taxman for the reminder and offer to assist with all the admin duties.
Fourth: As Filthy mentioned, 56 game season against limited opponents. How do you even plan to draft a roster?? LOL
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