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| Posted by: The Dienasty
- [22712623] Sun, Aug 27, 2023, 00:02
Welcome back RGFHLers! Were on the cusp of September and you know what that means. I hope everyone had a safe and fun off-season, and trust that Fosten partied hard with his 2023-24 Championship all summer long :)
Yahoo Fantasy Hockey is live and the league has been renewed. We'll first do a roll call here to confirm all managers are back and proceed from there with establishing Keeper dates, draft start date and anything else we'd like to address. At the same time, the floor is open for any suggestions on scoring and roster tweaks, and other league related topics that anyone would like to discuss. I know some people view the Yahoo league message board first so i'll copy this over there too.
RGFHL Year 18 - 2023-2024 League Settings Review
Roster positions to draft:
3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 5 D, 1 Util, 2 G, 4 bench.
Miscellaenous positions:
1 IR position for IR players
1 IR+ position for day to day, and out type players.
Draft Order is the reverse of the final finish from last year.
Forwards/Defensemen Stat Categories:
Goals (G), Assists (A), Plus/Minus (+/-), Blocks (BLK), Powerplay Points (PPP), Shots on Goal (SOG), Hits (HIT)
Goaltenders Stat Categories:
Wins (W), Goals Against Average (GAA), Save Percentage (SV%), Saves (SV)
Housekeeping items:
1. Any suggestions for league settings changes (ie. scoring, roster size, etc) are welcomed.
2. Key NHL dates - Opening night: October 10, 2023, Regular season end: April 18, 2024
3. Key RGFHL dates - Keepers submission deadline: TBD, Fantasy draft start date on Draftime: TBD
4. Roll call - Confirmed returnee managers please check-in. |
| | | 1 | Ira
ID: 24722110
Sun, Aug 27, 2023, 03:43
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Hey guys,
Just thought it might be worth discussing the weighting of goaltending categories.
Despite making up 13% of our rosterable games, they count for 36% of our point structure. The landscape of goaltending has changed dramatically since the start of our league. It was once a stable position with mostly predictable results which was reflected in our draft strategy. In 2023, it has become a largely random and completely inconsistent position save for 2 or 3 goalies.
There's a clear correlation between the success of the goaltending position and our fantasy standings because of the weight of goaltending categories. It's just deflating when you catch a goalie or two having an offyear and your entire team is sunk because of it regardless of how well you may have drafted the rest of the team.
My proposal is to reduce the goaltending categories to wins and SV%(or saves) and dropping +/- from the skater stats (I'll continue to maintain that +/- is an obselete fantasy stat every year haha).
Even if we [i]keep[/i] +/- it brings the goaltending categories to 22% of the leagues points bringing it closer to the 13% of rostered games.
Just my thoughts. Curious to see how others feel.
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| | | 2 | Little M
ID: 57757275
Sun, Aug 27, 2023, 06:58
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I will be back in the league again this season.
Regarding changes to stats, I would rather increase the number of stats for skaters than reduce the number of stats for goalies. We have done that in previous seasons by adding Blocks and Hits (but we removed Penalty Minutes). I couldn't find a list of categories on the Yahoo site, so I don't know what the options are.
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| | | 3 | mailedfoot
ID: 5082825
Sun, Aug 27, 2023, 10:05
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In
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| | | 4 | Perm Dude
ID: 8755259
Sun, Aug 27, 2023, 12:58
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In. I agree with Ira's points above. The game has really changed over the years and updating how we value stats should change with it.
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| | | 5 | filthy
ID: 577352910
Tue, Aug 29, 2023, 11:37
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Strongly agree that +/- is an obsolete fantasy stat and happy if we remove it.
Also wouldn't hate if we moved some value back to skaters. Removing goalie stats, adding skater stats, some combination of both, I'm in favour.
Currently 15 skaters, 2 goalies, 4 bench.
Another way to even the ratios a bit would be go with 2 lines of skaters + util to match the 2 goalies. (2LW,2RW,2C,4D,1UTIL).
That would put us 11 skaters, 2 goalies. Bench 4 still?
I'm mostly a fan of GWG as a skater stat. Basically a bonus for snipers. Sorta random with an empty netter sometimes being the GWG, but over the course of the season, the top scorers tend to lead this category.
And mostly a fan of remove GAA as a goalie stat. W,SV,SV%, goalies on good teams still get the win bonus, goalies on bad teams aren't penalized from GAA, and can generally make up for bad team D hurting the SV% by getting more SV.
11 skaters, 2 goalies, and we'd have 7 skater categories, 3 for goalies. Closer to an even ratio. Could get fancy and consider something like SHP, faceoff wins, keep +/-, bring back PIM if getting the ratios fairly even would be the ultimate goal.
Just some thoughts, I'm not too picky overall.
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| | | 6 | Cobwebs
ID: 127112911
Tue, Aug 29, 2023, 12:11
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In!
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| | | 7 | Fosten
ID: 10031913
Sun, Sep 03, 2023, 18:03
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In!!
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| | | 8 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 5896918
Mon, Sep 04, 2023, 21:58
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In…and let’s adjust goalie / skater point allocation.
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| | | 9 | Cobwebs
ID: 127112911
Tue, Sep 05, 2023, 17:09
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I’m good with taking away GAA, also +/- is a catagory that only favours players on good teams so it would be good to get rid of it, but it’s hard to find a stat that can replace it, maybe take-aways if it’s an option in Yahoo, PIM is an option but it’s a catagory that I don’t miss. I don’t think decreasing skaters is the answer, I like it to remain a deep league.
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| | | 10 | taxman
ID: 59759228
Wed, Sep 06, 2023, 10:39
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in
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| | | 11 | filthy
ID: 577352910
Fri, Sep 08, 2023, 04:18
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From stats I know are options:
I'd rank-
1- SHP,
2- GWG,
3- FOW,
4- PIM,
5- +/-
The real valuable guys are on the ice shorthanded, that is why I rank SHP highest.
GWG tends to correlate strongly with Goals and I like the idea of giving an added bonus for goal scorers so I rank it second..
I'd be happy anything, to emphasize, but I'd propose replacing +/- with whichever category is most favourable? Can check if takeaways is an option in the meantime.
If removing one goalie category and swapping the one skater stat doesn't satisfy us for this year, we can look at adding another skater stat next year. Throwing ideas out for now, let's brainstorm!
Don't think it matters but I put FOW third because faceoff specialists have their value. Coin flip on PIM and +/- to me, I don't like that players on bad teams are devalued on +\-, but I don't like that guys can be valuable for misconducts and other stupid type penalties for PIM.
All my thinking out loud is complete for now!
Added emphasis that I'm cool with whatever.
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| | | 12 | Cobwebs
ID: 127112911
Fri, Sep 08, 2023, 10:00
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An option is to turn PPP into 2 categories, PPG and PPA.
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| | | 13 | The Dienasty
ID: 22712623
Sun, Sep 10, 2023, 05:36
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Hey guys, sorry for not checking in for a while, been swamped on many different fronts. By my count the following managers have checked in so far:
The Dienasty
Ira
Little M
mailedfoot
Perm Dude
filthy
Cobwebs
Fosten
Superfreak
Taxman
That leaves us only wolfer and Dr. Doom. Hopefully they check-in over the next week, or we may need to think of back-up plans for manager recruitment. I'm thinking ideally we get started drafting in around 10-12 days, giving us two weeks to complete the draft itself and a few extra days to set rosters.
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| | | 14 | The Dienasty
ID: 22712623
Sun, Sep 10, 2023, 05:49
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Great brainstorming on the scoring categories from everyone, im sensing the desire from those who've spoken up to optimize and re-balance the goalie to skater scoring impact. I'll lend my thoughts soon as im about to step out.
For reference, below are all of the available scoring categories from Yahoo for skaters and goalies (with a checkmark next to the ones we currently use):
Forwards/Defensemen
Goals ✔
Assists ✔
Points
Plus/Minus ✔
Penalty Minutes
Powerplay Goals
Powerplay Assists
Powerplay Points ✔
Shorthanded Goals
Shorthanded Assists
Shorthanded Points
Game-Winning Goals
Shots on Goal ✔
Shooting Percentage
Faceoffs Won
Faceoffs Lost
Hits ✔
Blocks ✔
Goaltenders
Games Started
Wins ✔
Losses
Goals Against
Goals Against Average ✔
Shots Against
Saves ✔
Save Percentage ✔
Shutouts
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| | | 15 | Ira
ID: 24722110
Mon, Sep 11, 2023, 15:28
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my vote
-minus GAA and +/-
-add PPG, SHP, FOW
Not a big fan of GWG myself as I find it pretty random but not completely opposed to any skater stat to balance out
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| | | 16 | Little M
ID: 428361118
Mon, Sep 11, 2023, 19:37
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I don't like having both PP points and PP goals as categories. This would mean a PPG would count as a PPG, a PPG and a G, so 3 categories for 1 goal. This would put too much emphasis on players that score power play goals.
If we add PPG, I would switch PPP with PPA, as suggested above, but I am still concerned it would make a few power play players too important.
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| | | 17 | taxman
ID: 578451219
Tue, Sep 12, 2023, 20:50
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I agree with Little M about not wanting to over emphasize Power Play scorers.
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| | | 18 | Cobwebs
ID: 127112911
Wed, Sep 13, 2023, 06:56
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Get rid of:
GAA, +/-
Replace PPP with PPG and PPA
or/and
Add SH%
FOW is only a stat for centers and will make wingers who are center eligible more valuable.
SHP and GWG are stats with a too small sample size, just like Shutouts, that will turn the category into a lottery, and too random.
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| | | 19 | The Dienasty
ID: 22712623
Thu, Sep 14, 2023, 09:23
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I'll jump in here with my thoughts to see if we can all pull in a similar direction.
I completely agree that Goalies carry a disproportionate weight in the scoring categories. An injured star goalie can absolutely sink an entire team for the season. A poor performing star goalie on a fluke season can do the same. While i do believe this should always be taken into account during the pre-season draft process (ie draft for G depth, always), and can often be remedied by a keen eye on the waiver wire, being the victim of a Goalie injury or fluke season is just no fun, and the whole point of playing fantasy is just that, to have fun.
That said, to address goalie weighting issues, my preference is to re-balance the Roto scoring by adding skater categories, and leaving Goalies as is. More skater scoring cats also means more avenues for teams to make up ground, more players from the player pool to be effective, just more options. I'm also not in favor of reducing roster sizes. I believe our league is unique and lasted this long in large part from the depth of the rosters, the flexibility it provides, and of the course the slow draft to build them.
My suggestion is to add one or two more skater scoring categories to pull the Skater to Goalie scoring structure ratio (thanks for crunching the number earlier, Ira) more in line, reducing the impact of goalie performance while still leaving them an important factor, which they should be like on a real hockey team.
Skater categories to consider, just my quick thoughts on them:
Short Handed Points - While i like this idea, an issues remains that there just aren't many SHP's to go around season over season. The league leaders weren't above 10 SHPs last year and while the stat can be tracked for YoY trends, it is very scarce and borders into Shutout territory where it's almost too flukey.
GWG - I like this one too, but another low accumulating stat. See above. But also fun to track, and making a Roto cat can play on it's similar big impact in a real hockey game.
FOW - I could do with or without. Forward heavy stat leaving D in the dark, but has strong YoY researchable data.
PPG/PPA - A bit too similar to just straight up PPP, i don't know if splitting PPP up just for the sake of an extra scoring cat is the most interesting way to do it
PIM's - This is one i would like to see return. The stat lends itself to both Forwards and Defenseman, counts in high numbers and has strong YoY data. It may not make a lot of sense to "reward" a fantasy team for a PIM when it's looked down on in a real game, but ive always enjoyed tracking it for fantasy purposes.
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| | | 20 | The Dienasty
ID: 22712623
Thu, Sep 14, 2023, 09:26
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The floor is of course still open for discussion. But well need to address three things while that's going on:
1a) Find wolfer and Dr. Doom and get them to check in.
1b) Find two replacement managers.
1c) Consider shrinking the league to 10 teams this season.
2) Announce keepers
3) Set draft start date
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| | | 21 | filthy
ID: 577352910
Fri, Sep 15, 2023, 00:04
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The fact that one, let alone multiple others enjoy the deep league, has me officially retracting throwing that thought about smaller rosters out there.
Appreciate the feedback mentioning that GWG and SHP are rare enough that it can be a more random stat. I do still like GWG for the strong correlation with G, as a bonus type category. But the comparison to SO burst that bubble a bit for me. And the comment about FOW swaying certain forward values is a good reminder.
I hadn't considered SH% before, and really like the idea of adding a ratio category for skaters. It also tends to correlate with G as well, so my latest rankings will surely take this into account.
I think I like the idea of splitting up PPP, at least for this year, to keep value toward more skilled players should PIM return. I like the idea of PIM return if +/- leaves since our depth D spots tended to have a lot of value tied to +/-.
Don't mind trying another year with the 4 goalie categories since there's some sway toward trying it with just add skater categories. Would definitely want 9 skater categories in that case.
My revised top 9:
G, A, PPG, PPA, H, BK, SOG, S%, PIM.
I would also be cool with:
G, A, PPP, H, BK, SOG, PIM, GWG, SHP (possibly swap GAA for SO in that scenario, I kinda like the more random stats).
Super flexible, just some more thinking out loud!
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| | | 22 | filthy
ID: 577352910
Fri, Sep 15, 2023, 00:16
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Goal start around Sep20-22 was mentioned before.
Maybe we give those managers until this Monday to check in before attempting to find a recruit or two. There was an email posted in last year's thread as one potential replacement. Maybe we don't wanna wait til Monday?
Season start Oct10, so we probably want a keeper deadline of Sep 25? Doubt (m)any want to decide keepers until we know whether we have 10,11 or 12?!
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| | | 23 | The Dienasty
ID: 22712623
Fri, Sep 15, 2023, 13:19
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Re: 22 - Yes we should aim to get drafting soon. Thoughts are also welcomed on the proposal below:
In order:
1) i think we should set a deadline for wolfer and Dr. Doom to check-in by midnight Sept 18 (I will throw another reminder in the Yahoo Commissioners note and separately send emails to them as well). It's been a good 3 weeks since the league launched and this 2023-24 RGFHL thread was created.
2) Based on who check's in by the end of Sept 18, we will then begin a quick round of recruiting if needed. Recruiting period would end Thursday, Sept 21.
3) Keepers declared by Sunday, Sept 24.
3) Target to begin the draft at Draftime latest Monday, Sept 25. Draftime doesn't have Hockey ready to go yet as of this message.
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| | | 24 | The Dienasty
ID: 22712623
Fri, Sep 15, 2023, 13:43
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Re: 21 - I personally would hate to see +/- go as i find it translates well in bringing real hockey's value of a player into the fantasy realm. The stat also brings about interesting roster decisions that pit greed (pts scoring) over balance (tanking +/-, im looking at you Johnny Gaudreau). It's a stat that's featured prominently, often right after G and A in most boxscores and to me it would just feel weird to ignore it.
But i too am flexile, and have no problem with change if that's what the league wants. For what it's worth, given filthy's two suggested scoring options, i prefer G, A, PPP, H, BK, SOG, PIM, GWG, SHP. And if i may add my own two cents, these would be my personal ideal settings: G, A, PPP, H, BK, SOG, PIM, +/-, SHP.
I encourage our league members to chime in before we set the Managers list in stone on Sept 21. Ideally, we have any scoring changes and adjustments all agreed upon and signed off by that date as well.
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| | | 25 | The Dienasty
ID: 348111515
Fri, Sep 15, 2023, 16:12
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After some more thinking, and reviewing of the discussion so far, I’m going to revise my preferred scoring setup. Early chatter showed multiple people interested to remove GAA, which I think is fine. The other change that seems to have the most hands raised is removing/switching +/-. With the larger goal to still reduce goalie impact on the total roto scoring package, I believe switching it and not removing is better. I now view GWG is the most viable alternative. It accumulates higher than the other alternative I liked which was SHP (every NHL game played has a GWG, aside from games decided in shootouts) so every night any manager is likely to collect a GWG vs. SHP which may not happen for weeks. GWG is also naturally geared towards offensive players which fantasy mangers would roster anyways.
Proposal:
Skaters (8 categories): G, A, PPP, H, BK, SOG, PIM, +/- (or GWG)
Goalies (3 categories): W, Saves, SV%
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| | | 26 | Ira
ID: 24722110
Fri, Sep 15, 2023, 20:11
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Good points made about giving too much weight to PP if we added PPG, so I've changed my mind on adding it when we already have PPP.
Although I'm not a fan of PIM as a fantasy stat personally, if adding it means removing +/-, I'd support it. I'd rather have a stat that supports putting extra value in skaters than detracts from it. There aren't going to be any star players sitting on the waiver wire because their PIM is too low, something that can happen as a result of +/-.
There's a lot of great discussion so far with a myriad of different opinions on categories to be added/removed. Not sure exactly how we choose this. Should I make a poll for people to vote for the categories we use for this season?
Seems like we're getting closest to making a decision on GAA as a category.
Summarizing everyone's stance so far:
- ira (remove)
- The Dienesty (remove)
- cobwebs (remove)
- PermDude (in favour of balancing out goalie/skater categories)
- filthy (possibly swap to SO)
- LittleM (prefers to add skater categories than remove a goaltending category)
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| | | 27 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 408241522
Fri, Sep 15, 2023, 23:24
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Regarding our two absent managers, may i suggest sending out a Yahoo! email blast.
I typically set up the new season thread and sent an email from Yahoo!
Apologies if it's already been done.
My 2 cents regarding skaters and goalies.
I prefer removing one category from the goalie position.
Swapping GWG for +/- is fine or adding is okay too.
The +/- swing on any given game night was wild.
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| | | 28 | The Dienasty
ID: 348111515
Sat, Sep 16, 2023, 01:58
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Re: 27 - thanks CSF, I’ve already sent the reminders via Yahoo’s Manager email blast function. It seems Yahoo has removed the league message board function this season, I can’t for the life of me find anywhere. The only way to address the league from within the Yahoo fantasy page seems to be via Commissioners note now.
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| | | 29 | mailedfoot
ID: 5082825
Sat, Sep 16, 2023, 10:35
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I (hopefully) sent an email out to everyone using the "email league" function at Yahoo.
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| | | 31 | wolfer
ID: 56839169
Sat, Sep 16, 2023, 10:41
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Sorry guys, but I think I need to step away.
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| | | 32 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 408241522
Sat, Sep 16, 2023, 13:01
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The Dienasty, I just checked Draftime in order to set up the draft and it's not set up for hockey at the moment.
When it's added, i'll add the draft and then hopefully i'll be able to transfer the draft over to you.
Sorry to hear you stepping back Wolfer. Hope everything is okay.
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| | | 33 | The Dienasty
ID: 22712623
Sun, Sep 17, 2023, 23:52
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Re: 31 - Thanks Wolfer, sorry to see you go, and hope all is well.
Re: 32 - Yep i also noticed Draftime didn't have hockey ready. Left a reminder message on the submission form.
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| | | 34 | The Dienasty
ID: 22712623
Mon, Sep 18, 2023, 00:10
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Now that we have at least one team vacancy confirmed (and within a short time potentially another, making two total), i think we should move forward to solidify the revamped scoring structure as i think everyone who has an opinion has already chimed in. This also makes any recruitment an easier sell with the new structure in place.
Based on broad overview (and sorry if i missed any anyone who shared something that directly opposes this) i think the below new scoring structure should widely appease. Unless there's suddenly strong opposition, i'll proceed and assume we can roll forward with the below for RGFHL 2023-24:
Skaters (8 categories): G, A, PPP, H, BK, SOG, PIM, GWG
Goalies (3 categories): W, Saves, SV%
Changes:
- Switch +/- to GWG
- Adding PIM
- Removing GAA%
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| | | 35 | Cobwebs
ID: 127112911
Mon, Sep 18, 2023, 07:05
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I’m totally against adding PIM and GWG.
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| | | 36 | The Dienasty
ID: 22712623
Mon, Sep 18, 2023, 08:26
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Clearly unable to appease everyone, we can just take this to a vote then to let the majority win.
Goalie categories i believe can be set: W, Saves, SV%. Five skater categories have not been mentioned as possible cuts/switches, so those will be the core five: G, A, H, BK, SOG. And we'll vote on the last three from the available categories below to achieve 8. All league members can vote on any three of them and the three with the most votes are in. Ties im not sure how to handle. Maybe which of the tied stats a random player like William Nylander finished highest in the league in and that's the tiebreaker. 72 Hours vote period should be sufficient, as were up against the clock already. Voting closes Sept 21.
Voting (pick any three):
Plus/Minus
Points
Penalty Minutes
Powerplay Points
Powerplay Goals
Powerplay Assists
Shorthanded Goals
Shorthanded Assists
Shorthanded Points
Game-Winning Goals
Shooting Percentage
Faceoffs Won
Faceoffs Lost
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| | | 38 | taxman
ID: 578451219
Mon, Sep 18, 2023, 11:07
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Plus/Minus
Power Play Points
Short Handed Points
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| | | 39 | Cobwebs
ID: 127112911
Mon, Sep 18, 2023, 13:55
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Powerplay Goals
Powerplay Assists
Shooting Percentage
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| | | 40 | Ira
ID: 24722110
Mon, Sep 18, 2023, 18:28
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Powerplay Points
Shorthanded points
Faceoffs Won
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| | | 41 | mailedfoot
ID: 5082825
Mon, Sep 18, 2023, 19:55
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Sorry, I didn't realize PPP weren't part of the core group of stats...
Amended Vote:
Powerplay Points
Penalty Minutes
Shorthanded Points
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| | | 42 | The Dienasty
ID: 22712623
Mon, Sep 18, 2023, 23:19
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Plus/Minus
Penalty Minutes
Powerplay Points
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| | | 43 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 408241522
Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 12:07
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PIMS
Plus Minus
Short Handed points
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| | | 44 | Fosten
ID: 10031913
Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 13:08
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Adding PIM+HIT+BLK is way too much violence.
Shorthanded Points is a random crapshoot.
More than 4 keepers anyone?
Plus/Minus (+/-)
Powerplay Points
Faceoffs Won
I commish a re-draft league that is looking for owners. Plz join!
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| | | 45 | Little M
ID: 158352018
Wed, Sep 20, 2023, 19:45
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All of the extra categories have some flaw (fringe stat, random stat or duplicate a stat that we already have), so I will go with whatever the majority vote for.
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| | | 46 | filthy
ID: 577352910
Thu, Sep 21, 2023, 01:43
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PPP
GWG
SHP
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| | | 47 | filthy
ID: 577352910
Thu, Sep 21, 2023, 01:52
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That's shorthanded points. Don't think anyone would confuse that SHP for shooting percentage but I figure clarifying is worthy.
Also can't help but mention how impressive the GWG leaderboard looks but I think I'm a lost cause there.
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| | | 48 | The Dienasty
ID: 22712623
Sat, Sep 23, 2023, 01:13
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Ok the polling is closed, thanks for voting. The results are below and we'll ultimately only be adding Shorthanded Points to the scoring category pool, as PPP and +/- are returning.
RGFHL scoring categories for 2023-24:
Skaters (9 categories): G, A, PPP, H, BK, SOG, PIM, +/-, SHP
Goalies (3 categories): W, Saves, SV%
Plus/Minus votes: 4
Points
Penalty Minutes votes: 3
Powerplay Points votes: 6
Powerplay Goals votes: 1
Powerplay Assists votes: 1
Shorthanded Goals
Shorthanded Assists
Shorthanded Points votes: 5
Game-Winning Goals votes: 1
Shooting Percentage votes: 1
Faceoffs Won votes: 2
Faceoffs Lost
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| | | 49 | The Dienasty
ID: 22712623
Sat, Sep 23, 2023, 01:19
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We have 10 managers on-board and i'd like to make an attempt to recruit 1 or 2 more. We'll keep the window small (maybe 48-hours) and then roll right into announcing keepers and starting the draft.
@ CSF, Draftime now has Hockey available. Once we set in stone the mangers list you're welcomed to fire up the draft and handover at your convenience.
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| | | 50 | Ira
ID: 24722110
Sat, Sep 23, 2023, 22:27
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Thanks for the organization Dienesty
Kucherov
Crosby
Hamilton
Hellebuyck
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| | | 51 | Fosten
ID: 10031913
Sun, Sep 24, 2023, 11:18
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Post 36 says "the core five: G, A, H, BK, SOG. And we'll vote on the last three from the available categories below to achieve 8.”
Post 40 says "Skaters (9 categories): G, A, PPP, H, BK, SOG, PIM, +/-, SHP”
I believe it should say "Skaters (8 categories): G, A, PPP, H, BK, SOG, +/-, SHP"
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| | | 52 | The Dienasty
ID: 22712623
Sun, Sep 24, 2023, 11:31
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Re: 51 - thanks for catching that. Yes you're right, i made a typo. The correct scoring categories should read:
Skaters (8 categories): G, A, PPP, H, BK, SOG, +/-, SHP
Goalies (3 categories): W, Saves, SV%
I'm not optimistic about our changes of wrangling 1 more (let alone 2) managers in the near future. Anyone who's already certain of their keepers and don't need to wait for the recruitment effort to finish is welcomed to share their keepers now. We'll set the keeper deadline as Sept 27th to allow us a good amount of time to start the draft right after and complete before puck drop.
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| | | 53 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 408241522
Sun, Sep 24, 2023, 22:49
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Draftime is open. Check your emails for the draft access.
I have removed Wolfer.
If we get new managers i'll send them the draftime registration info.
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| | | 54 | Cobwebs
ID: 127112911
Tue, Sep 26, 2023, 06:43
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Keepers:
C Nathan MacKinnon
C Auston Matthews
D Cale Makar
LW Brady Tkachuk
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| | | 55 | mailedfoot
ID: 5082825
Tue, Sep 26, 2023, 15:37
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Mika Zibanejad
Jake Guentzel
Andrei Svechnikov
Moritz Seider
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| | | 56 | The Dienasty
ID: 22712623
Wed, Sep 27, 2023, 06:00
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Re: 55 - Thanks CSF. Dr. Doom also does not seem to be returning this year, so please remove him from Draftime as well if you haven't yet. I'll send another reminder via Yahoo for everyone to submit keepers as soon as possible, and we'll roll straight into starting the Draft.
Keepers:
C Evgeni Malkin
RW JT Miller
D Quinn Hughes
G Igor Shesterkin
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| | | 57 | Perm Dude
ID: 8755259
Wed, Sep 27, 2023, 08:50
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Keepers:
Artemi Panarin LW NYR
Sebastian Aho, LW, Car
Juuse Saros, G, Nash
Adam Fox, D, NYR
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| | | 58 | filthy
ID: 577352910
Wed, Sep 27, 2023, 17:28
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Sorokin, Pastrnak, Stutzle, Hintz
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| | | 59 | taxman
ID: 578451219
Wed, Sep 27, 2023, 18:35
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Keepers:
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins LW EDM
Aleksander Barkov C FLA
Roman Josi D NSH
Johnny Gaudreau LW CLS
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| | | 60 | The Dienasty
ID: 22712623
Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 09:09
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Hoping we can get keepers from CSF, Little M and Fosten here and get the draft rolling.
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| | | 61 | Little M
ID: 5852812
Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 13:17
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Sorry for the delay. For some reason I thought keepers were due on Friday and I have been going back and forth on which players to protect.
G - Oettinger
D - Dhlin
LW - Kaprizov
C - Point
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| | | 62 | Fosten
ID: 10031913
Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 13:55
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Sorry for the delay. Dienasty's email said September 28th.
Fosten's Keepers
1) Elias Pettersson, C, Van
2) Jack Hughes, C, NJ
3) Jason Robertson, LW, Dal
4) Matthew Tkachuk, LW, Fla
Fosten's Top Cuts
Mitch Marner, Jack Eichel, Linus Ullmark, Charlie McAvoy, Adrian Kempe, John Norris, Filip Forsberg, Trevor Zegras, Cole Caufield
My gosh, that's alot of keeper-quality players to let go. Listening to any/all draft pick trade offers before the deadline!
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| | | 63 | The Dienasty
ID: 348111515
Thu, Sep 28, 2023, 14:07
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Sorry guys the email did say 28th. I was just getting antsy and concerned someone had missed it and we’d have to spoil their keepers by picking for them. Thanks for chiming in.
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| | | 64 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 408241522
Fri, Sep 29, 2023, 13:12
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Sorry about the delay. Been a bit busy.
Anyway here's my Keepers
Draisaitl
Rantanen
Thompson
Beniers
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| | | 65 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 408241522
Fri, Sep 29, 2023, 13:37
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I've added the keepers to Draftime and notified KKB to see if I can transfer the draft over to The Dienasty. Hopefully this can be done.
I've currently made The Dienasty Co-Admin so that I don't hold up the draft any longer. There's a $10 usd charge that needs to be paid before round 4.
Let me know when you want to start the draft. I can start it anytime.
Snake Draft Order with last years winner drafting 10th. (Doom and Wolfer removed)
Taxman
Perm
Little M
SuperFreak
Filthy
The Dienasty
Foot
Ira
Cobwebs
Fosten
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| | | 66 | The Dienasty
ID: 348111515
Fri, Sep 29, 2023, 23:30
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Thanks CSF. I believe we can launch the draft now at Draftime, I’ll have a longer look at the admin controls there shortly as I’m running around a bit at the moment. Many thanks if you have been covering the $10 fee for us all these years, I had completely forgot there was such a thing to begin with. As Commish, I’ll take the duty of the payment this year via PayPal to get us rolling, and we can work out a more balanced way to do it going forward.
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| | | 67 | The Dienasty
ID: 348111515
Sat, Sep 30, 2023, 01:27
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Fosten has just mentioned he knows someone who would like to join the league, and id like allow a short amount of time for the person to join, the more the merrier I say. Fosten, I’ve just emailed him a league invite and assuming it can be accepted in a timely manner, well allow Richard to join. Please remind him to claim one of the available roster in the recruitment post, and make his keepers available here. Then we’ll need to add him over at Draftime and immediately start the draft. I don’t think we can wait much more than 24 hours at this point as we’re really up against puck drop.
Thanks.
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| | | 68 | Rick Custer
ID: 782308
Sat, Sep 30, 2023, 09:10
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Claimed Team A.
McDavid
Demko
Stamkos
Giroux
For keepers
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| | | 69 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 453412912
Sat, Sep 30, 2023, 11:26
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The Dynasty, looks like KKB transferred Admin control to you over at Draftime. One thing that needs to be updated is the draft order within draft. I had originally set it for 10 but it needs to be reset to 11 and hopefully Rick has joined.
He should be drafting in Dooms position since he claimed Doom's team. Between you and Filthy (6th)
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| | | 70 | The Dienasty
ID: 22712623
Sat, Sep 30, 2023, 14:40
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Thanks, yes i see i now have Admin control of the league at Draftime, and i see Rick has joined. I have added his keepers to Draftime as well, but what i don't see is a live button that allows me to change the draft order. I've emailed Draftime (KKB) in hopes of it being sorted asap.
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| | | 71 | The Dienasty
ID: 22712623
Sun, Oct 01, 2023, 11:48
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Ok, the draft order is now set. I had to re-enter all keeper picks as something cleared all the previous entries when the set draft order issue was fixed. Taxman has graciously offered to help enter picks into Yahoo as they come in, to allow us to have an up to date reference of picked/available players. And with that... We are underway!
Taxman, you are on the clock.
Hope everyone has a good draft, and please keep me posted if any issues arise via a message here (I'll be checking daily), or an email via the Yahoo Fantasy page.
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| | | 72 | Little M
ID: 34952110
Sun, Oct 01, 2023, 11:52
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Thanks to everyone that helped get this going. Let me know if you need me to do anything.
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| | | 73 | The Dienasty
ID: 22712623
Sun, Oct 01, 2023, 11:55
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FYI im also based out in the Asia time zone, so there may be an occasional delay in reaction from my side. We are clock free at the moment and i hope it stays that way until we wrap. Let's see how things unfold.
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| | | 74 | filthy
ID: 577352910
Sun, Oct 01, 2023, 14:18
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So much for hoping this McDavid guy could slip to me at the 5th pick!
Welcome Rick!
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| | | 75 | taxman
ID: 578451219
Sun, Oct 01, 2023, 14:24
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Justin...
Need to finalize managers in yahoo before I can enter draft picks
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| | | 76 | The Dienasty
ID: 348111515
Sun, Oct 01, 2023, 14:56
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Thanks for catching that, Taxman. I’ve finalized the managers now. I believe we’re set.
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| | | 77 | taxman
ID: 578451219
Sun, Oct 01, 2023, 16:01
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Keepers entered as rounds 18-21. Please check to see if your Keepers are correct.
I picked Fred (PD) is up.
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| | | 78 | taxman
ID: 40943212
Mon, Oct 02, 2023, 18:43
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Keepers entered as rounds 18-21. Please check to see if your Keepers are correct.
I picked Fred (PD) is up.
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| | | 79 | filthy
ID: 577352910
Fri, Oct 06, 2023, 20:58
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Awesome quick draft everybody!
My team looks accurate in yahoo, thanks Taxman, Dienasty, CSF for organizing.
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| | | 80 | The Dienasty
ID: 22712623
Fri, Oct 06, 2023, 22:53
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Well done everyone, I've pressed the magic button at Yahoo and we're underway. Look out for the Draft Rationale thread coming up shortly, would great to see thoughts on how everyone's draft went down.
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| | | 81 | Cobwebs
ID: 127112911
Sat, Oct 07, 2023, 08:02
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Draft done in record time, well done everyone!😊
My team looks good in Yahoo.
Thanks Dienasty, taxman and CSF for your efforts,
and welcome Rick to the league!
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| | | 82 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 6851618
Sat, Oct 07, 2023, 10:57
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Heads up, Waiver priority needs to be adjusted.
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| | | 83 | The Dienasty
ID: 348111515
Sat, Oct 07, 2023, 13:25
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Thanks for catching that, CSF. Changes made.
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| | | 84 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 408241522
Mon, Feb 19, 2024, 16:32
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I'm pretty disappointed in our new member. It's just a dead team at the moment. I would have preferred the team to be disbanded and put back into the pool rather than have an apathetic team hindering everyone elses chances. The roster is short 4 players and currently one active roster player is IR. WTF!!!
It's hard to grind out roto pts and even harder when a team with the caliber of players on the roster just throws in the towel.
McDavid on a dead team. What a travesty.
Can the commish step in and take over this team like I did when our previous manager went awol.
2 thumbs down.
Am I disappointed.. Hell Yeah!!!!!!
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| | | 85 | Cobwebs
ID: 482532315
Fri, Apr 05, 2024, 14:40
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Not good when managers abandoning their team, we want managers to be active until the end.
But it looks to be an exciting finish, there are many teams that can win this year.😊
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| | | 86 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 408241522
Thu, Apr 18, 2024, 22:07
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Congrats Ira. A very nice run this year, and you held off some tough challenges throughout the season.
I'm also going to step away from the league. It's been a great ride and had a lot of fun.
Thanks everyone.
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| | | 87 | taxman
ID: 63481913
Fri, Apr 19, 2024, 14:50
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ATTa Boy IRA. Congrats on your win.
And kudos to Dienasty and Cobwebs
Wow losing Christian/Superfreak is a huge loss.
We will need to do some serious recruiting OR if the league is going to shrink in Managers, I suggest we increase the roster size and daily positions. Could be accomplished by adding Utility slots.
I would not increase the Number of Keepers.
See you in Late August. Have a great off season.
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| | | 88 | Cobwebs
ID: 16351812
Fri, Apr 19, 2024, 16:23
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Congrats Ira! You won the SHP lottery, but you had also Kucherov with an amazing season, and dominated in hits and blocks, and with good goalies, a well balanced team, well done!
It’s sad to see good managers leave, but I hope that we can keep this league going.
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| | | 89 | The Dienasty
ID: 513342010
Sat, Apr 20, 2024, 11:34
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Re: 84 - my apologies I haven’t been checking into this forum regularly during the season, if I had caught I would have stepped in and made adjustments to the dead team. It’s unfortunate for sure.
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| | | 90 | The Dienasty
ID: 513342010
Sat, Apr 20, 2024, 11:36
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I had indeed been too pre-occupied with managing my own team and staring solely towards the top of the standings to pay attention to what was unfolding at the bottom.
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| | | 91 | The Dienasty
ID: 513342010
Sat, Apr 20, 2024, 11:48
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Congrats to Ira! Fantastic battle in the final month with the lead flip flopping multiple times. As close to the wire as I’ve seen in many years. I figured if I had any chance to win, it’d be by the slimmest of margins (like tied points with tie breaker in my favor slim), and if you won it’d be by at least a few points spread, which is exactly what transpired.
Sorry to see you go, CSF. A former champ and commish, the door is always open in case you change your mind. I’d love to keep this league going, with the intent on expanding back to a full 12 teams if possible. With that said, I’ll initiate the roll call earlier this off-season so we can prepare earlier recruiting, and I implore our league mates to reach out to any friends/family you can vouch for whom you think may interested to join as well (shoot me an email or reply here). To anyone outside the league reading this now that’s already interested, the window is open starting now. Feel free to drop a line here, I will be checking in.
Have a great off-season everyone.
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| | | 92 | Perm Dude
ID: 150252913
Wed, Apr 24, 2024, 07:25
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Congrats, Ira.
Sorry to see you go, CSF. Hope to see you back at some point.
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| | | 93 | Ira
ID: 23312923
Tue, Apr 30, 2024, 00:01
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Thanks guys!
Re: Cobwebs, my strategy seems to have worked as I was hoping the rest of the league might see the SHP category as a lottery. My team was projected to have 26 according to my prep sheet and I finished with 28 ;) Maybe I've let the cat out of the bag for next season haha
Was a super close finish right to the end. Unfortunate of the inactivity at the bottom but was a competitive season nonetheless.
Has been a treat competing with you CSF. Hopefully you are tempted yo return at some point :)
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| | | 94 | filthy
ID: 4157317
Tue, Apr 30, 2024, 05:07
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Congrats Ira!
Almost too swept away with real life playoff fever to send congrats!
Couple Canadian teams still got life to bring the Cup back home. Homer heart says Go Canucks Go, but brain sees the Oilers looking really impressive on both sides down the stretch this year. Hoping the Jets can make it a series but Avalanche seem built for playoffs.
Thanks for your service CSF. Would be nice to bring some life back to this league to tempt you back down the road!! I go through stretches where I'm just going through the motions trying to max my games played, technically harming my draft positioning for the following year by not mailing it in, but my OCD mind finds that fun. Thanks for the competition everybody.
I'd love to see a mini draft lottery if we're contracting to 10 teams, the temptation to tank it for McDavid was very tough to resist once we hit 2024. Maybe first place gets 1 entry, 2nd place 2 entries, down to 10th with 10 entries. There has to be an easy way to simulate this online and a trusty league mate to organize it...
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| | | 95 | filthy
ID: 4157317
Tue, Apr 30, 2024, 05:07
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Lol no comment on Leafs, seems fitting!
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