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Subject: To Erik, Bernie or whoever on tsn....

  Posted by: IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO - [3951204] Thu, Dec 11, 2003, 06:53
did you fix the european's elegibility to prizes' thing? you told us you were near to a positive end of the question but than we didn't hear anything from you, so?
if it's not fixed i think that you can't ignore how strong our european community has became on your site, as we won the league rank last year and actually have the lead in that rank again and in the overall single rank with me and tequila owning the team Porchetta and Cotoletta.
Can you please tell us how this question is going to end?
thanks, for this andfor all the great work you're doing this year.
bye.
 
1whoever on tsn
      ID: 221144116
      Thu, Dec 11, 2003, 07:45 		forget prizes
 
2peebee
      Donor
      ID: 19852820
      Thu, Dec 11, 2003, 07:49 		yeah i posted to these guys a week or so ago...never heard from them
 
3allhair allstars
      Sustainer
      ID: 41082722
      Thu, Dec 11, 2003, 08:12 		I emailed and posted and heard nary a word.
 
4IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 458341415
      Thu, Dec 11, 2003, 09:59 		up, and hoping for a feedback.....
 
5El Tel
      ID: 56423193
      Thu, Dec 11, 2003, 11:34 		Irri,
To summarise the standardised e-mail I got for winning the Eurogurupie baseball division:
Congrats.You won a prize.You live in the wrong place.You can't have it.Please play again.
No progress since soccer games.And while we keep playing what incentive do they have to shell out?
Don't let a minor issue like money distract you from your rocking start.
El Tel
PS.Oddo,Stam and Fiore have wrecked my fantasy Champions League ambitions.So I'm also....
Irriducibli Chelski
 
6IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 458341415
      Thu, Dec 11, 2003, 19:44 		el tel, we clearly not deserved to be qualified. but we deserved to be at least in the uefa cup, while besiktas and sparta clearly played just defensive soccer. anyway, we're out of europe for this year and it's right, when you aren't able to beat such mediocre teams at home.....chelsky was clearly the best team in the group and deserved to win it.
what a shame nobody from tsn is able to reply to such a great community as the european one is....
 
7Swish City
      Leader
      ID: 931275
      Thu, Dec 11, 2003, 20:00 		Irri, FWIW, i was pretty shocked to see Lazio gone at the 1st hurdle - i thought they would be easily good enough to grab 2nd behind Chelsea. I was not so shocked to see Rangers and Celtic fall there also, although Rangers played really terribly against Panathanaikos. Chelsea however, look very dangerous. They have such a huge squad full of quality...no one will want to draw them in the knockout stages.

El Tel - I have Cat 1 England v Croatia tickets for Euro 2004 next year, and 1/4 final of Winner A (Spain/Portugal) vs Runner Up B (France/England). I would hope you are very jealous, unless of course, you got tickets yourself.

On the main point, it sucks if we aren't going to get prizes again this year. If we aren't, it would at least be nice to hear some official TSN ruling on the matter. It does seem a shame though, because the European community contributes a lot to this game. I guess we'll just have to keep winning the divisional title every year until they change things :)
 
8Astade
      Donor
      ID: 214361313
      Thu, Dec 11, 2003, 20:15 		I've followed your 'rise' to the top of the fantasy basketball and I agree with all you EuroGurupies. The least they can do (and probably the easiest) is to give you TSN-credit.
Unfortunately with the way you guys are playing, it might seriously hurt their pockets ;)
 
9IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 458341415
      Thu, Dec 11, 2003, 20:22 		yes, it was my first idea, and i told them that if they wouldn't be able to give us the prizes, at least they can give us a tsn credit, which we all would have used to buy new teams for the next year....but not, they told there was a law which didn't allow this move too.
now, we just can stay tuned waiting for a response....
 
10JCS
      Sustainer
      ID: 20102934
      Fri, Dec 12, 2003, 03:43 		Keeping this toward the top.
 
11Edgar
      Leader
      ID: 458944
      Fri, Dec 12, 2003, 05:28 		Yes JCS alle this, our lawyers have to look into it crap has to end. No more excuses for TSN, I know it is quite simple to hand out prices at least in the Netherlands. This thing can be solved on short notice but they refuse to do it.
 
12IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 458341415
      Sat, Dec 13, 2003, 21:40 		up, and still no answer to the question.
 
13peebee
      Donor
      ID: 19852820
      Sat, Dec 13, 2003, 21:54 		does anyone know what the actual law is, and why they are not "allowed" to give prizes to O/S people.
 
14IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 458341415
      Sun, Dec 14, 2003, 19:22 		up, and still no answer to the question.
can't believe they don't read this boards.....
 
15TJ
      ID: 5111331418
      Sun, Dec 14, 2003, 19:33 		well believe it and stop "Butt"ing this. email them privately.
 
16IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 458341415
      Sun, Dec 14, 2003, 20:00 		we've done it a lot of times, and considering that we're a part of this forum and that we (europeans) all have a problem, i don't think that a single topic should be such a problem for you if you don't want to read it. just ignore it if you're not interested, thanks and have a nice night.
damn, i know that being a$$kicked by eurogurupies in a fantasy sports frustrate you, but try to show a little more comprension!!!
i'm just kiddin' obviously, but have patience with this topic please!!!
 
17Swish City
      Leader
      ID: 34634306
      Mon, Dec 15, 2003, 07:16 		I'm with Irri in this one. We've already been through the whole hoopla of sending email to TSN - i don't see how one thread is going to hurt.

Quite frankly, i don't think it's that unreasonable to expect a response on a topic such as this. Of course we understand the rules when entering, but just like last year, we'll have EuroGurupies threatening to walk away (or not, as the case may be) with some of the top prizes. I think it's only fair that TSN give us a clue as to whether we can seriously expect to get anything or not. The fact of the matter is that we are the reigning Divisional Champions, and i think that should count for something. If it's a legal issue, then at least an update is not that much to ask for. But from what Edgar's saying, that doesn't apply to everywhere in Europe.

It's not fair to fob us off with "You just can't have prizes" every year. Surely there must be something TSN can do about the situation.

Erik/Bernie/TSN, we implore you - give us a clue about what's going on. Please.
 
18IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 458341415
      Mon, Dec 15, 2003, 18:25 		up again, sorry if it hurts someone, but the problem is becoming ridiculous.....
 
19IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 3951204
      Thu, Dec 18, 2003, 06:07 		still no answer.
 
20Edgar
      Leader
      ID: 458944
      Sat, Dec 20, 2003, 10:09 		Yes this is becoming a bad bad story from the side of TSN. BUTT.
At least if they would be so polite to comment on the current status.
 
21H2OPG
      ID: 4610502914
      Sat, Dec 20, 2003, 12:37 		yes... perhaps we can't win anything because euro's value is growing up against dollar!
or our money are less important for them, who knows!
but it's a real shame!
 
22bibA
      ID: 261028117
      Sat, Dec 20, 2003, 14:14 		I am in the U.S., and enjoy and live for the TSN games. I so want them to grow and thrive. It worries me that there is this problem with the Euro-players. One hopes this is not indicative of a downtrend in the health of TSN. Every attempt should be made to satisfy the maximum number of participants.
 
23peebee
      Donor
      ID: 19852820
      Sat, Dec 20, 2003, 19:59 		bibA,
It is not just the Euro players, from what i understand, It is anyone outside the US.
 
24RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 9114753
      Sat, Dec 20, 2003, 20:08 		And, don't forget...9 states IN the US...
 
25RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 9114753
      Sat, Dec 20, 2003, 20:14 		Those being:

Montana
Vermont
Louisiana
North Dakota
Minnesota
Arizona
Florida
Maryland
Colorado

Which interestingly encompasses 6 NBA franchises.
 
26bibA
      ID: 261028117
      Sat, Dec 20, 2003, 20:29 		One can understand the situation in the states in the U.S., as they apparently have laws which interpret receiving prize money as gambling.
 
27IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 458341415
      Sat, Dec 20, 2003, 22:52 		money isn't really a big factor.
surely if you win 1st prize overall 1000$ should be a nice fit in your pocket, but for smaller prizes as the divisional ones, it would be enough to provide who isn't able to receive money to get a free pass for next fantasy games coming.
50$ should so be substituted by 4 or 5 fantasy teams for the next season. it doesn't seem so difficult to me, and i don't think it would take a great lawyer to find a way to run this thing....
 
28Edgar
      Leader
      ID: 16027232
      Mon, Dec 22, 2003, 08:12 		Well at least it does not take a great lawyer to comment on the status. All it would take is some attention for a few of your most devoted customers.
 
29IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 458341415
      Tue, Dec 23, 2003, 06:12 		12 days, no words.
way to go tsn.
 
30...
      ID: 36104127
      Tue, Dec 23, 2003, 07:03 		Give it up dorks...
 
31Edgar
      Leader
      ID: 458944
      Tue, Dec 23, 2003, 07:09 		Hmm very nice post under your own handle to stimulate the discussion on the forum.
 
32allhair allstars
      Sustainer
      ID: 910432610
      Tue, Dec 23, 2003, 09:24 		I've tried contacting Erik on a totally different subject and never heard back. I'm just curious if anyone has been able to get a response from these guys at all? Has communication gone south again? Or are they just ignoring certain inquiries? I'm not even talking about a solution - at this point a simple "thanks for your email" would be something...
 
33CJ @ Work
      ID: 35104577
      Tue, Dec 23, 2003, 09:26 		It might be a little of the holiday season. With Turkey day and then rolling into CHRISTmas. Just a guess don't rake me over the coals here please.
 
34IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 458341415
      Sun, Dec 28, 2003, 09:33 		up, and still no answer.
sorry if this post hurts someone in some way, but it's important to us.
 
35...
      ID: 36104127
      Sun, Dec 28, 2003, 14:36 		#33...or maybe they're ignoring them because they're tired of "listening" to these euro-dorks whine.
 
36IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 458341415
      Tue, Dec 30, 2003, 12:27 		... , why don't you just ignore this topic if it hurts you so much? not that we need to be joked by you, so why don't you just watch your business?
anyway, up again.
 
37give it up already
      ID: 5911473013
      Tue, Dec 30, 2003, 14:47 		Lazio:

you've had this thread going for 3 weeks now and you have gotten no response. let me clear this up for you.

YOU AREN'T GOING TO GET ONE!!


there now don't you feel better knowing the truth
 
38Farn
      Sustainer
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Dec 30, 2003, 15:00 		Lazio- feel free to butt this thread as many times as you want. I don't blame you one bit.

Not that I think TSN cares. As long as you keep paying your $50 or whatever you pay them they could care less. The less prizes they give out the better for their bottom line, which is why I suspect an answer from them isn't forthcoming.
 
39IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 458341415
      Tue, Dec 30, 2003, 21:19 		it's not a personal battle, but it's something for all the europeans playing this game.
thanks farn for not blaming us butting this one, we appreciate it.
 
40 rockafellerskank
      Leader
      ID: 3011562918
      Tue, Dec 30, 2003, 21:26 		IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO -

If you wish, drop me an e-mail and I will give you Bernie and Erik's telephone numbers at work. You can dial them direct and they will pick up and say "hello" That will give you a chance to ask your question, yes?

This information is publicly available and easy to obtain, so I'm not betraying any confidences.

I'd imagine you will get the same answer as last year "our lawyers say we can't", but you certainly have the right to ask.
 
41blade
      ID: 4211403016
      Tue, Dec 30, 2003, 21:38 		has anybody seen this man? :)


Erik Barmack, an executive at The Sporting News, which runs a popular fantasy hoops website
 
42IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 458341415
      Tue, Dec 30, 2003, 21:50 		rockafellerskank i'll drop you a line tomorrow when i'll be at work. thank you for the number, it'll surely speed it up!!!!
 
43JCS
      Sustainer
      ID: 20102934
      Tue, Jan 06, 2004, 12:48 		Irri, any news on this?
 
44Swish City
      Leader
      ID: 931275
      Tue, Feb 03, 2004, 20:14 		This thread deserves a bump too if Erik is kicking around
 
45...
      ID: 4004677
      Wed, Feb 04, 2004, 03:13 		Apparently he's not. Give it up already.
 
46IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 37057282
      Wed, Feb 04, 2004, 06:41 		we didn't start this discussion to give up....
so i'll periodically bump this thread, but the same must be done by everybody else interested....
thanks.
 
47...
      ID: 4004677
      Mon, Feb 23, 2004, 02:20 		bout time you losers gave this up.
 
48IRRIDUCIBILI LAZIO
      ID: 458341415
      Mon, Feb 23, 2004, 17:07 		thanks for butt-ing "three points".....