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Subject: RIHC Draft - 2004/05

Posted by: Guru - [330592710] Mon, Oct 11, 2004, 14:54

The draft for 2004/05 has begin.

The draft is being hosted at kafenatid.net, using their "On The Clock" software. League managers should access the draft here. Those outside the league can review the draft progress with this link.

The draft will run for 15 rounds, and will snake. Here is the draft order:

1 Coldwater Coyotes
2 Doug
3 Slackjawed Yokel
4 Dave R
5 blackjackis21
6 RSF
7 Rand
8 Mike D
9 Swish/Edgar
10 APerfect10
11 Guru
12 HoopsKlyce

For round one, I have set the clock at 24 hours, which I expect is tantamount to having no clock. After one round is completed and everyone has gone through the process, the clock will be shortened to 8 hours. There will be a clock moratorium every day from midnight-7am ET. If your pick times out, you may make it at your next opportunity, but the draft will proceed without you.

When entering a draft pick, please make sure you put the first and last names in the correct boxes. The software will prompt you if it does not recognize a name, but it will allow you to use an unrecognized name if you insist. In a recent football draft, we had a problem when both Travis Henry and Henry Travis were drafted. Please pay attention to what you're doing.

Our roster configuration will be as follows:
PG, SG, G, G
PF, SF, F, F
C, C
Util, Util
3 bench
2 DL

You do not need to draft a completely valid roster. You may draft a player who is not currently listed in Yahoo if you wish to reserve that player. After the draft is completed, you may no longer protect any unlisted player, but must simply wait until the player is made available at Yahoo.

Following the draft, all undrafted players will be placed on waivers, and waiver priorities will start out in inverse draft order.

This league will have a limit of 84 games per position. Since there are 2 slots for each of G, F, C, and U, those position slots will be subject to a combined limit of 168 games.

Please refrain from mentioning any undrafted player in this thread. You can this thread to alert others about your availability, to request volunteers to accept a queue, to raise questions about draft rules or mechanics, to solicit trade offers or announce trades, etc.

After two rounds have been completed, I will start a separate thread for draft rationales. We will then try to keep the rationale thread on a 2 round delay.

For drafting purposes, we will not distinguish between PG/SG or PF/SF. A simple G or F will be used. We'll deal with the position distinctions once we get to the Yahoo site.

The draft software allows you to designate any other league manager(s) to make a pick on your behalf. If you submit a queue, it will go to your designated manager(s) via email. If you wish to have someone outside the league make picks on your behalf, you will need to provide that person with your id and password.

Have I forgotten anything?

Doug
ID: 57352917
Mon, Oct 11, 2004, 15:36

FYI, I'm talking to two managers about a trade, so there will be a short delay. I'll move forward with my #2 pick ASAP if it doesn't look like a trade is going to happen, but I want to give them a quick chance to reply to my last email first.

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Mon, Oct 11, 2004, 15:39

Made me realize I should list my multiple e-mails here for ease of future use. ;)

work is: cdd04@allstate.com
home is: mdonahue27@comcast.net

Work is roughly 7:15am eastern to 4:30pm eastern......

hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Mon, Oct 11, 2004, 16:33

continuing the discussion on my consecutive picks...I don't anticipate ever getting caught by the 8 hour rule...however I (along with the team picking #1) am more vulnerable than other managers by missing the limit (kid needs to go to emergency room - whatever)since my two picks get bypassed I am much comforted by the moratorium but I am just trying to mitigate my potential losses by unexpectedly being unavailable. Anyway - I still would like some consideration - how about 10 hrs :).

Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Oct 11, 2004, 16:38

OK - 10 hours.

hoopsklyce
ID: 579471010
Mon, Oct 11, 2004, 18:20

you are too kind!

Doug
ID: 57352917
Mon, Oct 11, 2004, 18:23

TOO kind? Does that mean he should change it back to 8, in order to be appropriately kind? ;-)

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 08:29

Looks like Swish/Edgar threw the first curveball. Makes things interesting.

Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 08:44

Someone already took our fastball ;)

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 08:57

LOL! I'm sure it wasn't me.......

Edgar
ID: 1792634
Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 09:22

I guess if you want to win you will have to mix things up (or land KG on your squad that is basically the only other working tactic I know of)
I am very interested on who AP10 will pick.

Already thinking of a trade offer Mike D?

Rand
Donor
ID: 083231216
Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 09:34

Curve? I can't say I'm surprised by Lebron going at #9 (since he was on my short list for #7 pick), but Elton going at #6 was one I didn't expect. That is not to say I don't think he deserves it, it's just that people so rarely afford Mr. Blue Collar that kinda respect. Nice job, RSF. So far the draft is going great guys, and RBB is still available, so that should excite some of the later drafters.

oops, I mentioned an undrafted player, sorry:)

Edgar
ID: 1792634
Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 10:19

Certainly to see Brand go there surprised me as well. But the players picked before our pick was due were actually in line with our projected first 8. I also would maybe have expected for Kobe to go 1 or even 2 spots higher then he did at 4 now.

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 11:13

Wow Rand, James at # 7? Interesting. Edgar----nope, discussing them. ;)

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 11:20

So is AP10 taking a nap? Just wonderin'......

;)

Rand
Donor
ID: 083231216
Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 12:10

Oh yeah man, I'm a believer. I think Lebron is gonna have a monster season (with new and improved percentages).

Dave R
Dude
ID: 3010361110
Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 12:52

Just out of curiousity, the Draft Grid at KKB's site shows Lebron as forward. In Yahoo he's listed as a Point Guard.

I can't remember if the position is something that we manually enter or if the site defaults to a particular position.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 13:00

I think KKB's site will allow us to enter whatever position we wish. I can override, however - and probably should in this case.

APerfect10
ID: 369168
Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 14:35

Sorry for the delay...

Guru is up.

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 14:42

Dave R., we had that pick pegged......and I think the next one as well. ;)

Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 14:50

Did you have my pick (Yao) accurately pegged? I thought it might have raised an eyebrow or two. But I wasn't sure.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 14:53

BTW, if HoopsKlyce picks before 5pm or so, I should be able to react before 6pm. But I'll be out from about 6-9pm tonight, and I want to react to HoopsKlyce's picks, so I'm not going to leave a queue at this stage.

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 14:55

No, not based on the available field. (eyebrows slightly raised) ;)

Dave R
Dude
ID: 3010361110
Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 14:57

Let's put it this way Guru, I guess Mike D and Dave R will not go down as the world's greatest prognosticators.

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 14:58

Lol! Putting it nicely...

Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 15:07

I thought so. But Mike D's post 19 was actually made a few minutes after I had picked Yao, so I thought that perhaps you had already seen it.

Now that we have completed one round, I will set the clock to 8 hours. The midnight-7am moratorium will still apply, of course.

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 15:23

We were sure you'd nab Peja. Er, Dave was sure. ;)

hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 15:25

I am away from my home now and wanted to wait to get back before making my next pick. Not sure if that will happen by 6 PM but close to it. If Yao was still there I would have taken the big Asian!

Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 15:30

Glad to hear that, HoopsKlyce. That is what I had suspected (that you would have taken Yao, that is.)

Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 17:45

I'll be leaving in about 5 minutes, but I sent a 2-player queue to Dave R.

APerfect10
ID: 26981219
Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 21:09

I'll have my pick made within 30 min.

Mike D
ID: 319211119
Tue, Oct 12, 2004, 21:10

I e-mailed you, in case it went somewhere else......let me know.

Edgar
Leader
ID: 00458944
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 03:31

Swish and I also noted that Lebron is only a PG in Yahoo. But if I am reading the articles correctly this will not last long. I will need to talk to Swish b4 we can make our next pick. Still debating between players.

Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 07:29

I was looking at Allen all night last night before going to bed, only to find AP10 grabbed him by this morning. Maybe a little surprised he slid to 15. Oh well, the Franchise is hardly a consolation prize. And we even picked him at his prescribed Yahoo position this time around.

There have certainly been some adventurous picks thus far.

Dave R
ID: 99518
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 09:47

So maybe its Mike D's turn for a nap, or maybe he just hasn't gotten up yet, just wonderin'....

;)

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 09:52

Sorry guys, just got in the office. Had to get a tooth fixed that I chipped several weeks back. I went to the 'jiffy lube of dentistry' as he called himself today.

Considering dealing the pick, so I'll hold off for a little bit to see if anything pans out.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 10:28

There may have been some "adventurous" picks, but so far, the first 15 picks include all of the top 14 in my rankings. (The comment "if you can't quickly spot the sucker, then you're it" does disturbingly come to mind here!) The only pick I don't have ranked in the top 15 is Shaq.

For that matter, I don't have Shaq ranked in the top 50, although I know I'm an outlier with that type of ranking. Props to AP10 if he can figure out how to wrap the rest of his draft around Shaq's statistical anomalies. Perhaps he can find a way to take Ray Allen 3 more times.

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 10:30

I had Shaq 39. One of these years I'm gonna take him and experiment. This would not have been the one.

If no deal within the next 30 minutes I'll go ahead and pick. I'll explain that to the suitors as well.

Edgar
Leader
ID: 00458944
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 10:46

Hehe LOL Guru on the Ray Allen comment. I guess the combo is as good a match possible for Shaq. But I have to see that I expected him to get picked here. Statwise though I can not find a good reason to rank him at a high position. But the normalised stats have some flaws here and there that seem to punish Shaq a little harder that it should I guess. For example scarcity on the cats he is good in (FG% and Blocks) and his position come to mind.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 11:03

You are correct that category and position scarcity should elevate Shaq's value, and my rankings do not compensate for that. (That's where I'm forced to think instead - a weakness, no doubt.)

Nevertheless, I'm pretty sure he'll always be drafted ahead of me in any league I'm in. And I can live with that. Anecdotally, I don't ever recall seeing Shaq on the roster of any team that's won a competitive league that I was in.

Of course, if he ever learns to shoot free throws, he instantly becomes as big a fantasy monster as he is on the court.

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 11:06

I made my pick. On to Rand.....

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 11:53

"Outlier", "statistical anomalies", "normalised stats", "position scarcity"...

Man, I have a notepad that I scribbled a bunch of names that I could remember...weird...the 19th one on the list is "Aunt Bee"...must have been a late night.

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 11:56

She was probably Paris Hilton when you went to bed with her......Aunt Bee when you awoke.

Nice to see you've upgraded from the napkin strategy though. ;)

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 16:02

I can't believe Dave R. drafted a Sixer. How low can he go??? ;)

Dave R
ID: 99518
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 16:03

You want him, you can have him ;)

Doug
ID: 57352917
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 16:19

Man... lots of Shaq haters! I would have taken him at 8. Like Guru, I haven't seen much in the way of "adventuresome" picks... they are pretty in-line with my rankings. Brad Miller is the only one who went significantly earlier than expected, but I had him pegged for early-3rd, and I don't see it as being that much of a stretch.

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 16:42

First Rand, now Doug...I'm starting to get a complex... :)

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 041831612
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 17:14

You're obviously just drafting trade bait, RSF. ;)

Dave R
Dude
ID: 3010361110
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 17:42

Let me understand:

A FC can be a F or PF or C
A GF can be a G or F or SF or SG
A PG can be a PG or G
A SG can be a SG or G
A PF can be a PF or F
A SF can be a SF or F
A F can be a PF or SF or F
A G can be a SG or PG or G

;)

Slackjawed Yokel
Leader
ID: 052347519
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 17:54

Nash and Dirk reunited at last...

sorry for the delay - I've been swamped at work. And then trying to get my arms around the draft.. ugh. I should be considerably quicker on the flipside.

Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 18:06

I wondered about Lebron's eligibility actually. If he is PG now and picks up SF at some point too, does that in turn grant him GF, and therefore make him eligible to be placed at SG also? Obviously its usually SG & SF that triggers GF, but i dont know about PG & SF. The nearest i could find was Position Definitions and Gaining New Position Eligibility, but its not definitive in this case. Or is it, and i'm just interpreting it wrong?

Not that #48 didn't clear things up, Dave ;)

Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 18:31

If you go to the "Players" page at the Yahoo site and try filtering on different positions, Dave R's chart in [48] seems to be correct.

If a PG gets eligibility at forward, I don't know how that would be handled. Maybe he would be a "PG,SF".

Perhaps someone can recall an instance of this from a prior year?

hoopsklyce
ID: 499361316
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 18:36

could someone indicate the positions we need to fill

I did not think we needed to distinguish between PG and SG and what not

Slackjawed Yokel
Leader
ID: 052347519
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 18:51

Yes, a certain undrafted player gained PG eligibility last year after originally being GF. I could then place him at PG,SG, or SF. As far as what his position descriptor was, I can't recall. But, I think he was just left as GF, but he would show up if you filtered on PG.

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 18:54

Per post 0:

Our roster configuration will be as follows:
PG, SG, G, G
PF, SF, F, F
C, C
Util, Util
3 bench
2 DL

That would indicate to me that we do need to find the specific Positions as listed in Yahoo.

Doug
ID: 57352917
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 19:18

They will specify in the player listing the eligibility... although it's a little screwy...

If someone was SG eligible and then became SF eligible, they sometimes change the eligibility to read (SG,SF) or even (SG,SF,GF)... it's not the most elegant system. I've also seen instances like (GF,F) which means SG/SF/PF eligibility, or (FC,SF), etc. But basically whatever positions a player is eligible at will be covered in some manner by the parenthetical positins that follow his name on the site.

Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 19:18

SY I see what you are saying, but thats a slightly simpler case because its just adding PG eligibility on top of existing GF i.e. SF & SG. I am referring to the bridge in positions between PG and SF. It would not matter if we had a 4G, 4F configuration, but it does if theres a specific SG spot to fill, as is the case here.

I suppose the question is whether Yahoo treat a PG & SF combination as GF (and therefore inherited SG eligibility) or simply as PG,SF as Guru is suggesting.

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 041831612
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 19:33

I believe Guru to be correct, and not just because he's the Guru. ;)

Doug said it as best as I think it can be said:

"But basically whatever positions a player is eligible at will be covered in some manner by the parenthetical positins that follow his name on the site."

Swish, I've never seen anyone inherit eligibility, so to speak.

hoopsklyce
ID: 149361317
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 19:36

duh
I should have read post 0

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 041831612
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 19:54

Also based on post 0 is the 8 hour clock, and there is no mention of anything less than that. Therefore I assume that there are no plans to ever lower it. Seems like we have lots of time, and no matter how slow things sometimes appear, I guess we're moving along okay. hoopsklyce and coldwater, nothing like picking on the end in a slow draft, eh? Or a fast one, for that matter.

Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 20:04

Ok, i'm getting confused with who is talking about what here. That, and Doug posted just as i was typing 56. Are some of these posts responding to HoopsKlyce query in #52? I'm clear about the Yahoo League position setup, and also about the annotations for players listed in Yahoo.

Lets say Lebron meets whatever criteria he needs for him to be processed in Yahoo as PG,SF. I just wonder if:

1)The system then looks up a rule and checks if PG + SF = GF. If it does, then he becomes PG,SF,GF. If not, then he's PG,SF. Or

2)Whether its some Yahoo backroom stat guy that could randomly decide (or not) to give him GF.

Maybe thats not a question that can be answered by anyone apart from Yahoo, but i will be intrigued to see what happens if/when the situation arises. It would obviously be the same kind of situation if a player was listed SF and then qualified at C. Does that make him an FC or not, and is that result reached by the same method as the original example?

I'll shut up about this now as its not hugely important, its just not a situation i think i have seen before during my Yahoo roto days.

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 041831612
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 20:10

PG,SF

That's what I meant when I said he wouldn't "inherit" the SG piece. He couldn't be a GF, for instance.

Also, during the season when a position is added Yahoo usually just adds the position, even when it isn't always necessary or could be changed. For instance, I've seen players who were listed at PG get the SG added (PG, SG), when they could just change them from PG to "G."

Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 21:54

Mike D[59] - As long as we make sufficient progress, I do not expect to have to shorten the clock. So far, we've completed 3 rounds in a little under 3 days, so we are moving along OK.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 11:30

Ahem.

I started a thread for draft rationales last night, as we turned the corner into round three. As you make your pick in round 3, please post your rationale for your round 1 pick. If those ahead of you have not yet posted their rationale, then please create a placeholder for them. This helps to keep eveything in the proper sequence, and make it easier to identify which rationales are missing.

If you are not ready when you pick is made, please post a placeholder in the rationale thread yourself. This alleviates the need for others to guess whether you are still working on it, or just forgot, and helps to keep things moving along.

If you are posting a rationale after its proper sequence has passed, then post it here and I will copy it over to the appropriate slot.

If I may make a suggestion. Draft your rationale at the time you make a pick. Use your own word processor to draft it, and then simply copy it into the rationale thread when it is due two rounds later. This not only ensures you are ready when the time comes, but it also allows you to draft it when you remember what you were thinking about at the time. In fact, I often draft a rationale before I actually make the pick. Every now and then, I've found my rationale to be unconvincing enough that I actually decided to make a different pick.

Rationales need not be long. A couple sentences is sufficient if that's all you have to offer.

Doug
Sustainer
ID: 2730280
Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 12:15

So how do I post my rationale if somebody else has posted the placeholder? I can't edit someone else's post... do I have to send my rationale to that person and have them post it for me?

APerfect10
ID: 369168
Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 12:16

Guru, I would like to say that I love the draft rationale thread and am looking forward to defending/rationalizing my picks...

Even though they do not need defeneded ;)

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 12:32

Doug - if you read post 63...

If you are posting a rationale after its proper sequence has passed, then post it here and I will copy it over to the appropriate slot.

Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 13:13

Just a heads up, Edgar and i shall be discussing our pick at 7pm GMT, so no need to worry about there being a lengthy overnight pause because of us pesky Euros. In the meantime, i have posted our round 1 rationale.

APerfect10
ID: 369168
Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 13:45

Thanks for the heads up...or I would've been checking every 5 minutes from now until then ;)

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 14:41

Of course, that assumes we can figure out when 7pm GMT is...

APerfect10
ID: 369168
Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 14:49

EST is 5 hours behind GMT so 7pm GMT is really 2pm EST but since we are currently in daylight savings time we are EDT so 7pm GMT is 3pm EDT?

I think? ;)

Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 14:52

It don't matter, because we have selected. Knock yourself out AP10 :)

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 15:27

Z at 33 is ballsy by the Euros.....

Doug
ID: 57352917
Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 15:30

Yeah it is, and I had Z rated a mere 3 slots ahead of Bibby... ;-)

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 15:32

Whoa! That's hilarious! We're all falling and we can't get up.....

Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 15:34

We wont be taking our round 4 pick tonight, even if it gets round to us in the next couple of hours. Just another heads up, and there's nothing wrong with being courteous about these things.

Edgar
ID: 1792634
Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 16:00

Nah I had Bibby pegged for Mike D for all this round. At least we knew he would need a PG at that point that would suit his needs. Maybe in the end we will conclude to be all highly predictable rationalist nerds......Well maybe all of us except Mike D that is ;-)

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 16:08

See, someone knew what I was thinking....besides me....scary, isn't it Edgar??!! Love hoopsklyce's team so far......we're back to Guru already. Swish/Edgar, still not going to pick tonight???

Dave R
Dude
ID: 3010361110
Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 16:11

Is that because Hoopsklyce is the only one with 4 players? Certainly a distinct advantage ;)

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 16:12

Yes, that must be it.....

Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 16:38

I won't pick without conversing with Edgar once we're up. I am able to do it tonight in the next, say, 2 hours, but Eddy is an hour ahead of me so its getting late there. And i don't know if he's available. If he isn't around, i'm afraid it'll have to wait till tomorrow.

Hubble
ID: 436292814
Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 17:22

Just to mention that everytime i read Swish city post i picture Gollum talking...

"We wants it"...

I know its out of topic... and probably not funny but i wanted to share anyway... cheers all and good luck for the draft...

APerfect10
ID: 369168
Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 18:19

Sorry for the delay...was about to pick and right when I was about to enter my pick I had a business call that I had to handle. Anyways...swish & Edgar are up.

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 041831612
Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 20:11

Gee thanks Hubble......now I can't shake that thought either. ;)

Looks like we're done for the night per Swish's "we wants it" posts [78] and [84].

swishandedgar
Leader
ID: 052347519
Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 23:46

wicked tricksy hobbitses are trying to get their hands on our precious bron-bron

Doug
ID: 57352917
Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 23:52

I'm actually quite worried about the visions I keep getting... I am haunted by the buring eye of Lebron.

Edgar
ID: 1792634
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 01:58

Swish, maybe we should rename the team 'SE's Quest for the Ring'.

Anyway, we are up again and will be discussing the pick in a few hours.

Gollum
Dude
ID: 0931275
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 05:08

Yes, yes, we have's it, we have's it. And you want's it, don't you? ;)

I feel this would also be an appropriate time to make the obligitory Return Of The King (James) joke. Thank you. I'll be here all week.

Rand
Donor
ID: 083231216
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 11:33

Darn those Europeans and their strange, foreign time zones! I waited 16 hours only to have Swish/Edgar take my Donyell away from me. He was perfect for my team (plus I'm a raps fan), but I'll settle for Jamaal Magloire. Maybe it's a bit of a reach taking him at this point but my nerves couldn't handle waiting to see if he'll come back around to me in the fifth. I think I'll rest easier knowing I finally got a Center, a Canadian, and a top REB guy at that.

Funny thing is, I can wait on a guy, hope and pray that he drops to me, and then when he does I do a little happy dance. The moment fades quickly though as I become filled with doubt and indecision and I wonder 'what's wrong with him, how come no one else took him?' Ahh, the ironing of it all.

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 11:40

Lol Rand. I can relate to that last part. Second guessing your second guessing.

And Donyell would not have made it to you regardless of the Euro Ring dudes. Hope that makes you feel better. ;)

blackjackis21
Leader
ID: 034837521
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 11:50

Well Rand, if it helps, I wanted Jamaal bad enough with this pick that I considered looking at trade options to move ahead of you - I KNEW you were going to take him. I believe you had him last year and you seem to have a knack for taking guys that I have my eye on. He's not a stretch at all IMO. I of course also had Gilbert on my short list.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 11:55

When I took Terry, Arenas was another strong option. I almost flipped a coin. Perhaps I should have asked if someone wanted to trade up, since I would have been satisfied with either.

Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 11:58

Ain't it funny the way things work out? We were within a whisker of taking Arenas before the sheer guilt of taking 3 PGs in the top 4 rounds kicked in. We were virtually certain Mike D would take him after, and wouldn't you know it, he did.

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 12:06

Swish, you guys definitely have some sort of mojo going to predict my picks before I even decide on them. Guru, I'd have considered dealing with you for sure given the questions I had about the picks ahead of me. And Rand.....that Davis rationale is priceless.

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Rand
Donor
ID: 083231216
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 12:08

Blackjack, it actually does make me feel better knowing I scooped Jamaal before you;)
So thanks for that one, bro.

102

blackjackis21
Leader
ID: 034837521
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 12:14

I think I actually went so far as to give the computer monitor "the finger" when I refreshed the screen and saw he was gone - with a smile of course.

Pretty sad really. :)

103

Edgar
Leader
ID: 00458944
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 12:17

Ok I have a strong feeling again on the player RSF is going to pick. He might be considering two actually right now if I read my christall ball correctly.

Mike D I have also made a projection of your next five picks. If you want I can work it out till the end of the draft and mail in your final team this evening.

And time zones? Time zones do not seem to bother Swish one bit. I on the other hand have to get some sleep very once and a while.........

104

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 12:19

Edgar, that would save me a lot of time and effort. I'll look forward to your e-mail, and I'll start wrapping up a case of my favorite local microbrew to send your way. I'm sure the postage will be nominal. ;)

105

Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 12:20

lol.......giving the monitor the finger. Classic.

106

Edgar
Leader
ID: 00458944
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 12:23

That sounds good Mike. Maybe someone can also mail us our team then so we can have the same luxury of simply watching the draft and not having to worry about your player getting snatched the pick b4 you.

Just read Rand's rationale on Baron Davis. I think there should be a rule that every fantasy teams should at least have one white guy, kind of like affirmative action - white guys simply do not get the same opportunities in the NBA ;-)

107

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 12:25

And the league could be called "White Men Can't Jump." I'm in!

108

Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 12:28

Can I count Yao as my white guy?

109

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 12:33

LMAO! You'll have to clear that with Edgar I guess.

110

Doug
ID: 57352917
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 13:24

Guru, you can count Yao, but then I'm allowed to draft Wayne Brady to fill my quota... deal?

111

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 14:01

Swamped at work...should have a pick with a few minutes...waiting for the email for Edgar so I can figure out which two players I am thinking about... :)

112

Edgar
Leader
ID: 00458944
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 14:20

Well if you really insist on it I will mail my two options two you because I am pretty sure they will not make it to us back again. Ah well. Just follow your gut RSF like Ender always says!

Guru the Yao thing is a real tricky one. I am not sure if he would count as a white player. I think we need to develop some specific rules for that, so we can lay them down in the league settings. In line with your commish work I suggest the following options:

1. If a player qualifies or not is determined by a league vote;
2. The comish decides;
3. Mike D decides based on a historic investigation on the Yao family and their ancient ancestors.
4. Other

Please state your opinion here so we can solve this issue ASAP and continue the draft.

BTW AP10, BJ21 and Doug do not have a white player on board yet for sure.

113

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 14:42

OK, OK. Edgar, per your email, I have used my 4th rounder on Harold Minor. That nickname of "Baby Jordan" has to come true one of these years...

114

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 14:49

I vote for "3," and I'm on the case. Man, he's got some tall parents.

115

Edgar
Leader
ID: 00458944
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 14:57

BTW what is Harold doing these days? He had some serious hops in his days.

116

Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 15:03

Edgar Is all this white man and Center talk not making you hark back for Rik Smits? He'd be a solid addition at this point. And Dutch to boot.

Why do i get the feeling Mike D will follow up on option 3 anyway even if he gets outvoted 11-1? ;)

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Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 15:06

I have sub-contracted the most challenging research to rockafellerskank.......with his abilities, sources, and intuitive mind, the time involved will be cut down from hours to seconds.......

118

Edgar
Leader
ID: 00458944
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 15:13

Mike D has a minor in Chinese Measurement Antropology. And ofcourse that major in Fantasy Hoops obtained at Temple.

119

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 15:16

......and I could have gone anywhere.....so there. Is it true you once dunked on Smits in a summer league game?? Or was it the other way around?? Probably just a rumor.

120

Matlock
ID: 129151513
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 15:22

sorry if i'm posting in the wrong forum. does anyone have the 2004-05 schedule. i wanted to see how many games each team plays per week. thanks....

121

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 15:31

There are threads in this forum that have it........or you can click here.

122

Edgar
Leader
ID: 00458944
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 15:46

Mike did not mean to be rude there. We have never seen Rick on court here in the Netherlands since his feet were too expensive to insure.

Where did you go to College anyway?

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Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 15:52

Not taken that way Edgar. No way I could take you that way. ;)

In the states, especially the Northeast, Temple advertises as a University that "people who could go anywhere choose." Bill Cosby is a famous alum, and he says he could have gone anywhere......"but chose Temple." Guess that went over your head! (sorry)

I played small college ball in PA after suffering from a serious disease called "burnout." ;)

124

hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 15:56

Mike D
Are you in PA now? I am in the philly area.

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Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 16:00

Yes-----central PA-----suburban Harrisburg. And I'm most certainly a Philly fan (take that Dave R.!).

126

Edgar
Leader
ID: 00458944
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 16:06

Dave R will have a real tough season this time around. But luckily for him the Knicks will not do much better. And I think Dave has some serious issues to consider this draft with no KG landing in his lap at the start.

127

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 16:14

As do 10 others in this draft. :-(

128

Slackjawed Yokel
Leader
ID: 052347519
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 16:16

well, after much more of this, I'm just going to stop doing any preparation until it's my turn to pick.

Since last night, I've been going, "c'mon just let Rasheed continue to slip.. 5 more picks.. 3 more picks... and if he's gone I guess I can get Artest." you guys're killing me.

129

hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 17:03

(125)
Mike
My wife has a Temple MBA and her family is lives in East Berlin now.

130

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 17:09

I know where East Berlin is. It is near York, and I basically grew up there after a lot of moves at young ages. My family is still in the east York area. Not far away. Small world! (the 2 worded-one!)

131

APerfect10
ID: 26981219
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 17:20

Well I'm between both of you :P

Nice pick Dave R...when I drafted 'Melo it was basically a tossup between Rashard and him. For some reason he's underated every year but continues to put up nice numbers.

132

Dave R
ID: 369391514
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 17:20

Edgar, I think I'm suffering from KG withdrawal already. Yeh and I assume you were referring to the Nets, it's going to be a long season.

Twice now Blackjack has stolen my choice. I too gave " the finger ", but it wasn't directed at my computer ;)

133

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 17:21

If anyone feels like trading a pick, or they have soured on a player they drafted, let me know.....cuz' I hate waiting around. ;)

134

APerfect10
ID: 26981219
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 17:23

Time to Philly: 1 hour
Time to York: 35 minutes
Time to Harrisburg: 40 minutes

Guess my location...

135

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 17:24

Lancaster.

136

APerfect10
ID: 26981219
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 17:25

Good job ;)

137

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 17:29

Ding ding! What do I win? Ray Allen? Cool!

138

APerfect10
ID: 26981219
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 17:30

An amish buggy. :P

139

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 17:31

Doh!!! Do I get the poop that follows behind it too?!!?!

Nice of Dave R. to wake up from his mid-day nap and pick......nice pick too.

140

Dave R
ID: 369391514
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 17:40

Just wait til you get to be my age, those naps are important

141

Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 17:53

You guys should've heard him on the phone waffling between guys to pick.....the man spends WAY too much time in the car! ;-)

142

Mike D
ID: 319531516
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 18:53

I can't believe you were sitting next to him Species listening. I'm sure you were saying "hang up the phone and make your own damn pick Dave!"

LOL!

143

Mike D
ID: 439591519
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 21:59

Uh oh, time for another Dave R. phone call??? ;)

Slackjawed Yokel with a classic line in the rationale thread......"opted for the Canadian over the extra terrestrial." Fan....tastic!

144

Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 22:07

Mike, Is Dave holding you up from picking the guy we want 1 spot before he gets to us? :) You have the itchiest trade/draft finger i have ever seen. Says the 3am Scottish NBA freak.

145

Mike D
ID: 459181520
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 22:18

Considering the source, I'll take that as a complement. ;)

I don't care about Dave R.'s pick anyway. Now if I only knew who Species was picking, THEN I could plan.......yup.

146

Mike D
ID: 279191520
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 22:19

I'm watching the Magic/Shaq-less Heat game.....

147

Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 22:26

Hows that game going Mike? I can't find a boxscore. You must be able to tell by now that we're going to take each others A1 picks all the way down to round 15. I'm assuming Eddy's complete draft email told you everything you needed to know about our picks? ;)

148

Dave R
ID: 369391514
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 22:32

Whoa I go out for, a while and geez.

Mike D, now 2 sixers :(

149

Mike D
ID: 319331520
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 22:33

Yes, it was very informative. I'm on autopilot now.

A lot of young players getting big minutes. Crowd and players kind of quiet. More like a scrimmage. Heat won by around 6.

Doh! Dave R. with another Sixer! Someone hacked his team! When he wakes up from his nap, he won't sleep for a week!

150

Mike D
ID: 69341520
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 22:34

Drink heavily Dave!

151

blackjackis21
Leader
ID: 34837521
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 22:47

fyi, I'm here - will pick shortly.

152

Dave R
ID: 369391514
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 22:48

Take your time, make Mike D sweat for a while

153

Mike D
ID: 489501520
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 22:50

Should I boldly declare that I won't pick until tomorrow, a la Eurogollum? ;)

May not matter anyway. I gotta hit the sack soon, early game for my son tomorrow...

154

Dave R
ID: 369391514
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 22:51

You could always draft your son

155

Mike D
ID: 449561520
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 22:56

That would be a bit of a risk......I'd rather stay true to my board. And Edgar's e-mail.

156

Mike D
ID: 539561520
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 22:56

That would be a bit of a risk......I'd rather stay true to my board. And Edgar's e-mail.

157

Doug
Sustainer
ID: 2730280
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 22:58

I know there's a political joke to be made here... so tempting, but this is not the forum for it...

Re: #152... I could really lose a few pounds, so maybe someone can convince Slack to make me sweat for a while prior to my next pick (which is oh so far away right now...)

158

blackjackis21
Leader
ID: 34837521
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 22:58

ok - here I go.

159

blackjackis21
Leader
ID: 34837521
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 23:00

oops - thought I was the one holding you up Mike. I guess you may still have a way to go.

160

Doug
Sustainer
ID: 2730280
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 23:01

Hey, he drafted a son!!! (a Jami-son... *groan*)

161

Doug
Sustainer
ID: 2730280
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 23:03

That joke was so bad, I'm giving myself a technical foul.

162

Dave R
ID: 369391514
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 23:03

OH, that was bad, Doug ;)

163

Mike D
ID: 3971521
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 23:07

I don't get it.

;)

164

Dave R
ID: 369391514
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 23:15

Hey Blackjack

How many times did you have to type Antawn before you got it right?

165

Rand
Donor
ID: 083231216
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 23:34

Probably the same amount of time it took Slackjawed Yokel to spell 'Dwyane Wyade', but i'm just guessing.

What kind of nyame is Dwyane anyway?

In other news, I read somewhere in my research that Olowakandi is Nigerian for 'can't play a lick'. I like that one:)

166

Doug
Sustainer
ID: 2730280
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 23:36

Shhh!!!! No mentioning undraftable... I mean, undrafted players.

167

Dave R
ID: 369391514
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 23:37

Same kind of name as Anfernee

168

blackjackis21
Leader
ID: 34837521
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 23:39

Just twice - the first time I spelled it c-h-a-u-n-c-e-y...

Just kidding. I just had to contribute to the exceedingly poor attempts at humor tonight...

Though I did want Chauncey.

169

blackjackis21
Leader
ID: 34837521
Fri, Oct 15, 2004, 23:41

post 165 reminds me of something I read regarding Ilgauskas that I'll post after the draft if I remember. I'm sure it won't be funny then, but I can't post it as it mentions some other players.

170

APerfect10
ID: 369168
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 10:58

We're falling behind with the draft rationale's...

171

Doug
ID: 422281412
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 11:57

FYI, I posted my 3.02 then deleted it when I realized it mentioned an undrafted player... so I replaced it with a placeholder for now.

172

Mike D
ID: 199301610
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 12:30

Just got in, looking around now.....

173

hoosklyce
ID: 599261611
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 13:27

171
Who was the player - tell me, tell me, tell me...

174

Mike D
ID: 69311611
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 13:31

If he made it into Doug's write-up, he must have been a special player. ;)

175

Doug
ID: 422281412
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 13:53

LMAO... somehow I don't think that's a compliment... ;-)

176

Edgar
Leader
ID: 00458944
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 14:08

Some big Chicken flew our way this time!

177

APerfect10
ID: 26981219
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 14:26

Well screw you both.... :P

I thought there was no way Antoine or Ratliff would be taken ahead of me.

178

Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 14:28

I wonder how many of us have been staring at Walker for awhile. I was thinking about him with my last pick, and was really surprised to see him survive this late. While he certainly creates challenges in the shooting percentage cats, at this pick he seems like pretty good value with significant upside potential.

On the other hand, I'm kind of grateful that the Euros snagged him before I did. I would have seemed pretty hyprocritcal of me to disparage Shaq earlier, and then pick up Toine.

179

Mike D
ID: 59321612
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 14:32

I was hoping someone would take Toine too. I wanted him, but didn't want him. AP10, trade lines are open. Ratliff for Ray Allen. You know you want it. ;)

180

Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 14:33

Antoine may be a chucker, but we figured its a no-brainer at the end of round 5 in a draft of this ferocity. I'm just shocked Mike D didn't take him. I've been sweating and crossing everything this afternoon, while he made us stew.

181

Mike D
ID: 229351612
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 14:35

Yeah sorry about delaying. It was only because I wasn't home. I've never owned Toine in Roto. It takes a lot of willpower for sure.

182

Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 14:45

Two picks ago, my short list for this pick was Walker, followed by Blount.

I'll pick before too long, but I have to rethink my options again.

183

hoopsklyce
ID: 579471010
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 16:28

I had a shortlist of 3 and was hoping guru would take one to make my decision easier - he didn't

184

Mike D
ID: 449591614
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 16:59

Love the picks again though, hoopsklyce. Like Guru's too. Who the h*ll is Mark Blount? (j/k)

185

APerfect10
ID: 26981219
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 17:25

I feel the same way about Antoine. I didnt want to take him but he would've been too good not to take in the late 5th.

I was prepared for the wrath of Guru with the possibilities of Shaq & 'toine on the same team ;)

186

hoopsklyce
ID: 579471010
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 17:26

re 184: Hey - I like this Mike D guy -

187

Mike D
ID: 189291615
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 17:29

Lol----It was either Manu or Theo for me at 5.08. Ever wish you could buy an extra pick??? AP10----Toine and Shaq? Wow, that would have been the "AP10 Bricklayers." Sheesh!

189

Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 17:49

Actually, once you have Shag, 'Toine isn't a bad combo. You essentially tank the FT% category, so their woes there don't combine at all. Meanwhile, Shaq's FG% would be a good way to offset's Antoine's bricks.

190

Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 17:50

Of course, I meant "Shaq", not "Shag". Freudian slip, perhaps?

191

Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 17:51

...meanwhile, I wonder if the Euros are still awake...

192

Mike D
ID: 529511615
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 17:51

Mrs. Guru watch out tonight!

193

Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 17:58

We're here. Trying to decide.

194

Edgar
Leader
ID: 00458944
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 18:03

Yes we picked, lets see how this Mr. Daniels will put Mr. Finley into retirement a little sooner than expected.

195

Edgar
Leader
ID: 00458944
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 18:07

Mike D I sent you the list, please make your pick as scheduled!

196

Mike D
ID: 169181616
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 18:18

Righto! While I wait for it, I'm sorting through the rubble......

197

APerfect10
ID: 369168
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 19:06

I apologize. I wanted to get my rationale for Carmelo posted today but I had an emergency at work which took all of my extra time and now I have a scheduled meeting tonight; therefore I will not be able to post my rationale until tomorrow morning or late night tonight. My apologies...

198

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 19:10

AP10, life happens. My Friday was nuts.

Mike D, check your comcast account. Please.

199

Dave R
Dude
ID: 3010361110
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 19:13

I get it Mike D

If you grab all the PG's left, someone will have to trade with you !

200

Mike D
ID: 29261617
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 19:26

MUHAHAHAHA!

201

Doug
Sustainer
ID: 2730280
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 19:33

Not necessarily... I only have him rated mid-pack in assists thus far... :-|

202

Mike D
ID: 139471617
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 19:47

That's cuz you haven't read my rationale. I certainly persuaded myself. ;)

203

hoopsklyce
ID: 579471010
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 20:59

could someone tell me how to edit the placeholder left for me for lamar and andre

or do I post my rationale here

204

Mike D
ID: 8961619
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 21:06

Post here

205

Doug
ID: 422281412
Sat, Oct 16, 2004, 21:46

FYI, if it gets to me this evening, I won't be picking until around 1am or so PDT.

208

blackjackis21
Leader
ID: 34837521
Sun, Oct 17, 2004, 00:35

just fyi - I'll be back around 9:00am EST. Dave R. - if you could just e-mail me who you plan to pick so I can take him first, that'd be great.

212

Edgar
Leader
ID: 00458944
Sun, Oct 17, 2004, 14:11

My gut says we will not be picking til tomorrow morning............And I cannot see the posts after no. 208.........

213

Dave R
ID: 369391514
Sun, Oct 17, 2004, 14:13

Just got home and picked. Slackjawed is up.

214

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 041831612
Sun, Oct 17, 2004, 15:33

Edgar, your gut speaks the truth. Ain't no way. Those missing posts were draft rationales.

218

Edgar
Leader
ID: 00458944
Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 11:35

More risks to come for the Euro's!

219

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 11:38

Cool......good to see Hill get some respect around here. ;)

221

Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 13:40

The last few picks have gone fairly quickly. We must not be stealing each others picks, for a change.

222

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 14:46

You may have jinxed it Guru. ;)

223

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 14:51

Yeah, Mike D is chomping at the bit to select his next point guard.

224

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 15:04

LMAO! Just for you, RSF......just for you.

225

hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 15:06

ahem Mike...
where is your customary note saying you liked my picks?

226

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 15:15

Sometimes, silence says a lot.

ROFL!!! ;)

They appear to be solid picks, but after you raised the bar so high, frankly, I wasn't totally overwhelmed like previously. You hit a long fly ball, but it was caught on the warning track.....

;)

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hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 15:28

Mike perhaps it is because I was not reciprocating.
How is this - I really like that Gilbert Arenas pick.

OK Your turn

228

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 15:40

Man, great picks that last time around!

;)

229

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 15:41

The Euros are still deliberating. Maybe I'll try and get some work done.....

230

Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 16:52

Mike D: "Maybe I'll try and get some work done..... "

I'll remember that the next time I open my bill from your company.....and wonder what percentage is going down the drain in poor efficiencies in PA!

231

Edgar
Leader
ID: 00458944
Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 16:54

it might be too early to grab Boumtje Boumtje here, so there is still some discussion in the Euro camp. We should make our pick in 30 minutes or so.

232

Edgar
Leader
ID: 00458944
Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 17:50

New speed record with Mike picking Q!

233

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 041831612
Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 17:51

Glad you guys made the pick Edgar. I'm leaving to play hoops with my older 2 kids, and I was able to squeeze mine in. This way I can't have 2nd, 3rd, and 4th thoughts about it too!

Species, I'm giving the finger to your post. ;)

234

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 17:51

Dang...2 man queue before Gollum picked is now down to 1...

235

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 041831612
Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 17:52

RSF, see ya tonight for our live draft.....Mike D out!

236

biliruben
ID: 441182916
Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 18:06

This is a howl out to Mr. Coyote, as I notice he hasn't yet rationalized his Crawford pick. I'm debating him in a strange league I am in (Sim, Salary, which attempts to simulate perfomance, via last week's stats, based on a player's comrades and competition).

Anyway, because assists make the whole team better, I'm wondering about what you think of crawford's hopes, on the assist front. Will he dish at all out of shooting guard (4/48min would be acceptable)? What do you think of his PT (not as important, as we rotate)?

Thanks, CC.

237

Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 19:45

I get the feeling from the rationales of the people picking in our vicinity that we aren't the most popular kids in town! RSF, I think i might have you pegged for who that other guy might be, as Edgar and I deliberated back and forth for over an hour with another 2 contenders before going with Troy. And neither of them was Q, Mike D ;) But i guess it'll have to wait till tomorrow till i find out now....*sigh*

238

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 19:57

No Q contained in my queue, either (or is that neither?)

239

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 041831612
Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 20:44

Geez, coldwater is now taking "rationale requests." We're not worthy. ;)

240

Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 21:10

BTW, now that I have Brent Barry, I no longer need the "Yao is a white guy" ruling.

241

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 041831612
Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 21:13

I almost had Barry a couple of times. Maybe in the back of my mind I was trying to avoid case law in the Guru v Yao matter.

242

Pacers Rule
ID: 29541816
Tue, Oct 19, 2004, 00:10

re: #239
Mike D, you know we rookies and sophomores like to emulate the big boys. Just knowing you took the matrix #8 provided great comfort as I did the same in the AA draft. I am worried that the addition of Q is going to reduce his minutes, however. Probably, it just means he will continue to see minutes at PF. However, they've got other guys taller (Joe Johnson) and that weigh more (Johnson and Q) than Marion who could be made to play PF. Why pick on our guy?
PR

243

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 041831612
Tue, Oct 19, 2004, 00:18

Lol! Neither Q nor JJ will play PF, IMHO. Both can play SF, and Q will likely do that when they play small. Keep in mind the new division lineups too, and the type of ball they will be playing. And more and more teams are going without a true center anyway, meaning their PF isn't a monster either.

Lots of points to go around on this team, methinks. And Marion does so much else----I can't see any of that slowing down as long as he is healthy. Can say that about a lot of people though. The more categories you can get out of the typical 8 being used, the better, and Matrix is a multi-tool masher. ;)

244

Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Tue, Oct 19, 2004, 11:59

I like Dave R's Howard pick.

245

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Tue, Oct 19, 2004, 14:19

I'm sure you do. ;0

246

coldwater coyotes
SuperDude
ID: 229272412
Tue, Oct 19, 2004, 14:24

Biliruben...write up coming. This year's law change which allows two balls to be used is the reason that New York have Marbury and Crawford....or is it a clever/incompentent Isiah Thomas?

247

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Tue, Oct 19, 2004, 14:42

Slackjawed, some lofty expectations in that last rationale bro (Okafor)!

248

Slackjawed Yokel
Leader
ID: 052347519
Tue, Oct 19, 2004, 15:04

Yeah, I had to re-justify it to myself... so that rationale may not be completely rational. It's probably the first risky pick I had made - should he put up those kind of numbers, it would be more than justified. Out of curiosity, where did others have him going?

250

biliruben
ID: 441182916
Tue, Oct 19, 2004, 15:37

Thanks, CC! As it happens, I had to submit my draft list an hour ago, and I drafted Crawford. If he has the above line, I don't regret it.

I watched him play in highschool and was amazed by his talent. I have followed him pretty closely, but wasn't sure how he was going to fit into MSG. I'm still not, but you have given me more confidence in my choice of spending $9 on him.

251

APerfect10
ID: 369168
Tue, Oct 19, 2004, 16:32

Yikes...I had a few guys targeted for the last 2 rounds of the draft and they are all being taken!

First it was Troy Murphy, now Eric Snow...

Save some for me! ;)

255

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 041831612
Tue, Oct 19, 2004, 18:29

Phew, GREAT catch Swish. I changed it.

256

Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Tue, Oct 19, 2004, 18:32

No probs Mike. I put Hill rationale in here in case it caused a problem.

For the record, i'm extremely annoyed with you at the moment for taking Jimmy Jackson. It's as if we had been stealing your players all the way through the draft and you wanted payback or something ;)

257

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 041831612
Tue, Oct 19, 2004, 18:44

Good to know someone else thought JJ had game. ;)

And it wasn't personal!

258

Dave R
ID: 99518
Tue, Oct 19, 2004, 18:52

I guess Mike D was a little anxious to post his 7th round rationale :)

259

hoopsklyce
ID: 579471010
Tue, Oct 19, 2004, 18:57

Swish
I am annoyed at the person who took Jimmy Jackson too since I wanted Ben Gordon. That one hurt!

260

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 041831612
Tue, Oct 19, 2004, 19:24

Guilty by association! Dave R, I love to share.....

;)

264

Dave R
ID: 369391514
Wed, Oct 20, 2004, 00:04

I think almost all of us have one from this list on our roster

Bust Forwards

266

Edgar
Leader
ID: 00458944
Wed, Oct 20, 2004, 04:04

Euro Gollum has no bust forward on their roster but I think not all of these F's will be a bust though. Maybe our RIHC division should write articles like these too and provide some more insight;-)

267

Dave R
ID: 99518
Wed, Oct 20, 2004, 07:47

Edgar, I didn't necessarily agree with all the assesments, but thought it makes for some interesting reading none the less. There is also a section for

Bust Guards

I hesitated to use the word bust for fear of getting Mike D to excited

268

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Wed, Oct 20, 2004, 08:56

It's a good thing I'm at work......or bad thing, depending. ;)

I had read those articles, and thought they were a bit out there. But that's what makes it fun.

269

Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Wed, Oct 20, 2004, 11:03

RSF, got your mail, thinking about it and trying to contact Edgar.

270

Rand
Donor
ID: 083231216
Wed, Oct 20, 2004, 11:08

lol, picking Joe Smith has got to be one of the most boring picks in fantasy sports. I think its the best move for me right now, but yawwwwwn. Sorry for the delay in picking this morning.

271

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Wed, Oct 20, 2004, 11:19

I thought the same thing when you picked him Rand! But he fills a role, no doubt. Nowhere near as interesting a pick as say Juwan Howard!

272

Rand
Donor
ID: 083231216
Wed, Oct 20, 2004, 11:21

Juwanna trade?

273

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Wed, Oct 20, 2004, 11:25

Love to.....but not our last 2 picks. ;)

AK47, Redd......now you're talkin'! I'd even consider Howard in the deal. ;-0

274

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Wed, Oct 20, 2004, 11:26

Joe Smith is about as sexy a pick as PJ Brown...

275

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Wed, Oct 20, 2004, 11:26

Nah, PJ has some flash. Kinda.

278

hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Wed, Oct 20, 2004, 13:12

RE 264
My first two picks are Busts - could be a long season!

But my guards rock!

Anyway, we had our run on point guards and centers earlier. I now expect a heavy run on white guys in the last rounds.

279

Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 20, 2004, 13:36

Rand - I just noticed that last year you drafted Joe Smith as the final pick in round 15. I guess you've upgraded him since then!

It looks like he was the best player taken in round 15 last year - although Jim Jackson went completely undrafted.

280

Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Wed, Oct 20, 2004, 15:02

I love this part of Mike D's Quentin Richardson rationale: "an engagement to Brandy......should make for a breakout season"

Yeah, and I drafted Bure and Fedorov solely for the fact they were banging Anna! ;-)

281

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Wed, Oct 20, 2004, 15:04

So you understand where I'm coming from then......

;)

hoopsklyce, my team is in need of a white dude. Good we have benches. ;)

282

hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Wed, Oct 20, 2004, 15:09

what do you sAY we take it to another level...

you must start at least one AMERICAN BORN WHITE GUY

283

blackjackis21
Leader
ID: 034837521
Wed, Oct 20, 2004, 15:12

Re: #280, I wondered if Mike D was implying that Brandy had some sort of STD or something...

284

Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Wed, Oct 20, 2004, 15:13

blackjack - Dave R called you a variety of expletives when I told him you took Harpring. One of them rhymes with stick and starts with "pr".

He'll be back in his office in +/-15 mins to go back to the drawing board.

285

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Wed, Oct 20, 2004, 15:14

Dude, that's wrong......hoopsklyce, no way bro. My entire draft would have been different. ;)

286

blackjackis21
Leader
ID: 034837521
Wed, Oct 20, 2004, 15:20

Sorry about #283 - no offense intended.

Not sorry about #284.

287

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Wed, Oct 20, 2004, 15:26

LMAO! Hey, if we can't have any fun with it, why we playin'? So when is the Species/Dave R team picking???? ;)

289

Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Wed, Oct 20, 2004, 15:30

Mike D - I'm merely a consultant with a dose of comic relief, Mr. Quentin will have a breakout season.

290

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Wed, Oct 20, 2004, 16:03

Consultant......does that mean you get credit for the good picks, and Dave gets the blame for the bad picks? Sounds like a cool arrangement bro!

291

Doug
ID: 57352917
Wed, Oct 20, 2004, 16:13

LMAO @ #280 & #283.

These last 4-5 rounds have been pretty brutal IMHO. Normally there are guys who I feel "slip" and almost every round there's someone who I think has fallen too far. Not this year.

After my odd-number round picks, I usually get a list of 15 or so players to consider for my next pick. Then 20 players come off the board and I see who's left for my next pick. I'm usually getting down to like 2 options left when my pick comes up (like I am right now)... it's scary! I have a feeling I'm in for a rough year...

294

Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Thu, Oct 21, 2004, 09:12

Another 76er! Are you going for the complete set, Dave?

295

Dave R
ID: 99518
Thu, Oct 21, 2004, 09:14

Damn, I hadn't thought of that ;)

296

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Thu, Oct 21, 2004, 09:18

I hope Dave knows something I don't know about the Sixers this year....love to see them actually win some games again.

297

APerfect10
ID: 369168
Thu, Oct 21, 2004, 11:17

I'm going through withdraw here...haven't picked in a day and a half.

298

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Thu, Oct 21, 2004, 11:30

I'm sure people are working the trade lines, checking things in great depth, and giving every ounce of energy to these picks. As opposed to not paying any attention and wasting time.

;)

299

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Thu, Oct 21, 2004, 11:37

I'll trade up if it will get things moving. ;)

300

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Oct 21, 2004, 11:38

We've stalled a bit from time to time, but overall we are still averaging less than 2 hours per pick, which is the pace we need to complete one round per day.

Looks like we will wrap this up early next week, with a full week to go before the season starts - which should give Mike D ample time to completely trade away his entire roster.

301

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Thu, Oct 21, 2004, 11:43

ROFL! I may have a brief period where I actually like my team......aw, who am I kidding?

302

blackjackis21
Leader
ID: 034837521
Thu, Oct 21, 2004, 11:47

Sorry guys - got hung up out of the office all morning. Moving on...

304

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Oct 21, 2004, 15:15

I'm sure Mike D is working the trade lines, checking things in great depth, and giving every ounce of energy to his pick. As opposed to not paying any attention and wasting time.

;)

305

Dave R
Dude
ID: 3010361110
Thu, Oct 21, 2004, 15:33

LMAO

Or maybe he has another dental appointment or is taking his mid-day nap ;)

306

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Thu, Oct 21, 2004, 15:33

Thanks to my good buddy RSFFFFFFFFF, my pick went down the toilet. I've been trying to trade down, but at this juncture in the draft I'm not having any luck. So I'll likely just pick soon.

308

APerfect10
ID: 369168
Thu, Oct 21, 2004, 15:38

I've been trying to trade down, but at this juncture in the draft I'm not having any luck. So I'll likely just pick soon.

Suuurrrreeee you have. ;)

309

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Thu, Oct 21, 2004, 15:56

Atleast he quit calling me RSF-U...

310

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Thu, Oct 21, 2004, 16:27

I don't remember quitting.

;-0

312

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Oct 21, 2004, 21:12

Thanks to those of you who are staying pretty current with your rationales.

The leader on the delinquency list is now Doug, who owes four rationales.

320

Dave R
Dude
ID: 3010361110
Fri, Oct 22, 2004, 14:57

Whoa

3 picks in 6 minutes

321

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Fri, Oct 22, 2004, 15:00

Some decisive dudes.

324

Doug
ID: 57352917
Fri, Oct 22, 2004, 20:19

Hey guys, sorry I've been out of it the past few days... between shutting down the company and entertaining family who are in town, I've been struggling to keep up. Coldwater snagged the guy I was targeting for this pick (Kandi) so I need to do some research, but will not have the opportunity to do so until late tonight (west coast). I will try to get my rationales up-to-date tomorrow (if not tonight) as well. Thanks for your patience, fortunately we've been setting a good pace thus far.

325

Doug
Sustainer
ID: 2730280
Sat, Oct 23, 2004, 03:47

OK, I got a trade offer on this pick, and counter-offered. If the other party accepts the counter-offer by the time my pick is up, then great.

If not, then I have sent my pick to Guru... hopefully he can make the pick for me?

I will try to check in first thing tomorrow morning (note, for me first thing means around 9am west coast) in case there are any problems... again, my apologies for any recent inconveniences as a result of my lack of availability... unfortanately I have not the mental bandwidth to deal with rationales tonight. I'm going to bed as soon as I click the "Post Now!" button...

326

blackjackis21
Leader
ID: 34837521
Sat, Oct 23, 2004, 11:09

Anyone up for a short queue? I think Dave R said he was golfing this am - not sure when he'll be back, but I need to be gone for a few hours in about 20 minutes.

327

blackjackis21
Leader
ID: 34837521
Sat, Oct 23, 2004, 11:15

Never mind - got it.

328

Mike D
ID: 6916239
Sat, Oct 23, 2004, 11:16

I can take it----just got home. You're up now though, so may not be needed.

336

hoopsklyce
ID: 579471010
Sat, Oct 23, 2004, 13:27

what is IMHO?

339

Doug
Sustainer
ID: 2730280
Sat, Oct 23, 2004, 13:30

IMHO = In My Humble Opinion

340

hoopsklyce
ID: 269122313
Sat, Oct 23, 2004, 15:12

thanks - one more
LMAO what does this stand for

341

WonderB
ID: 239561819
Sat, Oct 23, 2004, 16:01

Laugh My something Off

342

hoopsklyce
ID: 579471010
Sat, Oct 23, 2004, 18:26

then why dont they say LMSO??

:)

346

Rand
Donor
ID: 083231216
Sun, Oct 24, 2004, 11:53

Woah, RSF, now that was a FAST pick! I guess there was no question Boykins was the guy you wanted?

347

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Sun, Oct 24, 2004, 11:57

Good timing I guess. Always like the little jitterbug that Boykins is.

349

Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Oct 24, 2004, 15:17

Just a heads up - Doug sent me a short queue, but it has already been emptied. He won't be back until "tonight", and since he's left coaster, that's late.

It looks like we'll finish up either tomorrow or Tuesday. Once the draft is completed, I'll finish entering all picks at Yahoo, and give everyone a day to review. After that, the league will be activated, with all undrafted players on waivers for 2 days. Waiver priorities will be the inverse of the draft order.

351

Doug
ID: 422281412
Sun, Oct 24, 2004, 23:15

Hey guys, I'm back and have picked, sorry for the holdup. I think this has been the toughest draft I have ever been in... the quickest way to make a player disappear is to put him in my queue! Sheesh! So I keep going back to the drawing board... but I am not super-excited about my squad at this point, as there aren't any guys who I thought were really a "steal" where I drafted them... :-|

Therefore, I shall likely be looking to make some deals in the next couple weeks!

352

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Sun, Oct 24, 2004, 23:30

Jason Kaponovich!

354

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Sun, Oct 24, 2004, 23:38

Dang, if Boykins can produce 3/4 of what he tossed in tonight's preseason game (18 points, 9 dimes, 1 trey, 1 steal and 1 block...A BLOCK from a midget!) I'll be immensely pleased.

355

Edgar
Leader
ID: 00458944
Mon, Oct 25, 2004, 03:51

RSF that will be his only block of the entire year I assume...........Unlucky for you it came in the preseason.

356

Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Mon, Oct 25, 2004, 05:22

Well, it's still 1 more block than Danny Fortson will get this year :)

357

Rand
Donor
ID: 083231216
Mon, Oct 25, 2004, 07:15

Hey! Don't be mocking one of my guys, Swish, or there's gonna be trouble:)

358

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Mon, Oct 25, 2004, 08:08

Celebrity boxing without the celebrities?? To the death!

359

hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Mon, Oct 25, 2004, 08:51

What is the thought behind the term dime for an assist? I have never seen the connection.

360

Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Oct 25, 2004, 08:55

Hey brother, can you spare a dime?

(Can you assist me?)

Just a guess...

361

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Mon, Oct 25, 2004, 11:30

Coldwater draining the time limit in impressive fashion. Could we have our first skip? You can cut the pressure with a knife! ;)

362

Dave R
Dude
ID: 3010361110
Mon, Oct 25, 2004, 11:46

Interesting, with Coldwater having the next pick also, giving him another 8 hours, will he able to make both picks in that time frame?

363

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Mon, Oct 25, 2004, 11:52

I would think he would. This could be an ingenius move on his part.

364

Doug
ID: 57352917
Mon, Oct 25, 2004, 12:21

I think once your pick is skipped, all subsequent picks are skipped as well (ie, there is no additional 8 hours). This came up in the initial discussion when someone asked that they be given 4 hours for their second pick (or a total of 12 hours)... implying that ordinarily both picks would be skipped after the initial 8. I don't see the need to race ahead at this point however, even if his clock expires we can give Coldwater some extra time IMHO.

366

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Mon, Oct 25, 2004, 12:26

I think he is just deliberating on which pick he is going to use on Ruben Boumtje Boumtje.

Doh...sorry, mentioned undrafted players...

367

Guru
ID: 46962416
Mon, Oct 25, 2004, 12:42

I'm not sure what the software will do if he times out. We may find out shortly after 2pm ET.

If it immediately rolls over to Doug, then it's up to Doug as to how quickly he picks. Clearly, we have no long-term time pressure. I'd suggest that Doug wait at least an extra 2 hours.

If it simply rolls to Coldwater's next pick, then I will give him at least an extra 2 hours (since I previously made the same agreement with hoopsklyce, who is at the other end of the draft) After that, I'll manually force the clock ahead, which then leaves it in Doug's hands again.

368

Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Oct 25, 2004, 12:47

BTW, Doug - I have your queue that you sent me late last night. Do you still want me to pick from it? Or do you want to do it yourself now?

369

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Mon, Oct 25, 2004, 12:49

I'm wagering that the software goes to the next pick, also Coldwater's. I'll wager my 16th round draft pick.

370

coldwater coyotes
ID: 535441512
Mon, Oct 25, 2004, 13:29

Sorry about the delay.....parent teacher conference at school
took way too long.

372

Guru
ID: 46962416
Mon, Oct 25, 2004, 14:28

The top name on Doug's queue was available, so I just picked for him. On to Slackjaw...

373

Edgar
ID: 10939232
Mon, Oct 25, 2004, 15:57

Is Dave R practicing his swing again??
Or just convincing Species to pick Ruben Boumtje Boumtje?

374

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Mon, Oct 25, 2004, 16:09

LMSO! (borrowed from hoopsklyce)

375

Dave R
Dude
ID: 3010361110
Mon, Oct 25, 2004, 16:20

Very funny fellas.

Almost as funny as my pick ;)

376

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Mon, Oct 25, 2004, 16:21

Bout time you picked a homer. ;0

380

hoopsklyce
ID: 579471010
Mon, Oct 25, 2004, 20:53

OK
four picks to go - I have two on my shortlist

who is going to break my heart

381

Mike D
ID: 79582519
Mon, Oct 25, 2004, 21:58

Actually several guys I wanted.....these rosters ain't big enough!

383

hoopsklyce
ID: 579471010
Mon, Oct 25, 2004, 22:04

OK
Haywood was one of them
1 on the list
3 to go

386

Rand
Donor
ID: 083231216
Tue, Oct 26, 2004, 00:51

wow, that Haywood pick is looking might fine tonight. Of course, no Antawn, Kwame, or Etan to contend with. But, still, looking good.

387

Edgar
ID: 10939232
Tue, Oct 26, 2004, 01:10

We will take him in in a minute Hoops!

388

Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Tue, Oct 26, 2004, 04:27

Edgar, i'm having a really tough time deciding on the guys we discussed last night. Mike, that's a real nice pick, but it ain't fair you nabbed our 5th C ;)

389

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Tue, Oct 26, 2004, 08:27

Um, 5th center?? LMSO!

390

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Tue, Oct 26, 2004, 10:50

Centers? Who needs stinkin centers?

391

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Tue, Oct 26, 2004, 10:59

Aren't they like catchers?

392

APerfect10
ID: 369168
Tue, Oct 26, 2004, 11:01

argh, Guru you posted the minute I did. Can you move that please ;)

393

Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Tue, Oct 26, 2004, 11:04

So was your target player left Hoopsklyce??

And with the last pick of the 2004/2005 RIHC draft, Hoopklyce selects....Willie Green!! We looked at him really long this morning.

394

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Tue, Oct 26, 2004, 11:09

Another one of my Sixers......here's hoping they ALL play well this year!

395

Rand
Donor
ID: 083231216
Tue, Oct 26, 2004, 11:10

Yup, I was amazed Willie Green kept dropping, especially with all the apparent Phillie lovers around here. I decided to take Houston and planned to shift him to IL at the start of the season (as per reports) and then hopefully pull Green off of waivers. Oh well, nice draft, gentlemen, and good luck!

396

Guru
ID: 46962416
Tue, Oct 26, 2004, 11:16

I almost took Green as well. Not quite sure what it was that steered me away.

397

Mike D
Sustainer
ID: 41831612
Tue, Oct 26, 2004, 11:18

The allure of Charlie Ward? That would seem to be the obvious reason. ;)

398

Guru
ID: 46962416
Tue, Oct 26, 2004, 11:22

OK, Gentlemen, here is the drill:

1. Please review the list of drafted players at Yahoo. Report any discrepancies.

2. Please post your final rationales. It will be difficult to keep that thread in sequence, so if your rationale is not the next one due, just post it/them here ASAP.

3. I will open a new thread for each of you to provide your reactions to the draft. You are not required to comment in that thread, but I suspect most of you will have some interesting observations.

4. At approximately noon ET tomorrow (Wednesday), I will activate the league. All free agents will be on waivers for 2 days. Waiver priorities will be in reverse draft order. You may submit waiver claims until Friday noon, after which waivers will clear and free agent adds/drops will be open for business.

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Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 27, 2004, 08:17

All rationales are complete now, except for Coldwater Coyotes, who still owes them for rounds 10-15. Thanks to all for your diligence!

I have not gotten any feedback regarding errors in coding the draft picks at Yahoo. You have until noon today to review your roster. At that time, I'll activate the league, as planned.

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hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Wed, Oct 27, 2004, 14:26

with 4 picks to go I had hoped for Haywood or Green - kind of glad I did not have to decide.

Of course after the pick it is announced Green is not the opening night starter - so I was not LMSO

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