| Posted by: Addicted
- Dude [4611592518] Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 19:20
Man, It used to be everyone would jump way ahead of time to get tonights action thread...
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| 1 | Gescom
ID: 1911111313 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 19:22
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No Knight in starting line-up
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| 2 | Pica Donor
ID: 161141312 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 19:24
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What da... I was watching yesterday's Bobcats game and Knight was absolutely healthy.. maybe another coaching decision.
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| 3 | Pica Donor
ID: 161141312 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 19:38
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Ok, doesn't look like Knight will play tonight. Dammit.
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| 4 | The Dienasty
ID: 37105817 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 19:38
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Hart on the bench, still no sign of Knight.
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| 5 | MadDOG
ID: 41143108 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 19:43
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Go Krstic! You my man.
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| 6 | Addicted Dude
ID: 4611592518 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 19:45
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No VC in the starting lineup, either.
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| 7 | Gescom
ID: 1911111313 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 19:46
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Krstic 4, Pistons 0
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| 8 | MadDOG
ID: 41143108 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 19:46
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First four NJ points by Krstic. This guy looks pretty good. First time I have seen him play.
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| 9 | Great One
ID: 551038246 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 19:53
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and Vinsanity checks in...
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| 10 | TT
ID: 519452117 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 19:54
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Well yesterdays NYK / Cha game B. Knight did get a technical. And he wasn't in the game in the last 5 or 10 minutes or so. I didn't think anything of it, but maybe it's a disciplinary thing.
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| 11 | Pica Donor
ID: 161141312 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 20:02
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TT: it very well could be, seems like Bickerstaff is pretty strict on Knight, also he took a couple bad shots too. As far as i can see he is healthy thru out the game.
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| 12 | Julius
ID: 231172719 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 20:08
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Where is J. Kidd? I didn't hear anything about injuries...
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| 13 | Great One
ID: 551038246 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 20:18
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they are still just keeping his minutes down... its usually 6 in both 1st/2nd Quarters and then usually 8 in the 3rd/4th. At the start and end of each half with a hole in the middle.
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| 14 | Senator Urine
ID: 147361313 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 20:19
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Primoz is absolutely magical tonight.
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| 15 | tastethewaste
ID: 4411212118 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 20:29
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krstic barelly touched the ball when Carter was in.
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| 16 | Swish City Dude
ID: 0931275 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 20:31
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Brand producing another disappearing act.
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| 17 | Great One
ID: 551038246 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 20:37
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umm... Vince looks pretty good.
And yeah its like Kristic isn't on the court with this amazing RJ/Kidd/VC trio rollin'...
and holy cow RJ just went down HARD. Ouch.
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| 18 | tastethewaste
ID: 4411212118 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 20:37
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jeffersons hurt
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| 19 | tastethewaste
ID: 4411212118 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 20:39
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carter is such a selfish ballplayer, did you see that 3 he just chucked up there.
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| 20 | Great One
ID: 551038246 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 20:39
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Flagrant and T on Billups... he took RJ's legs out from underneath him and he lands flat and hard from way up in the air.
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| 21 | Julius
ID: 231172719 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 20:40
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Ouch...R. Jeff just went down hard...
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| 22 | Great One
ID: 551038246 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 20:44
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looks like RJ is ok, took him out so he can gather himself but he looks alright.
regardless of Knight's status, Knight>Parker post freeze for me... Bobcats gotta start going anyway, so why not start it. Looking for Primoz replacement, hopefully Kristic is a C in a couple games.
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| 23 | tastethewaste
ID: 4411212118 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 20:51
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krstic? with Carter joining this team, Krstic just turned into Wang Zhi Zhi. Look at his #s since he scored the first 4 pts of the game and when Carter came in.
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| 24 | Pica Donor
ID: 161141312 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 21:07
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Nazr has fallen back to earth...
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| 25 | tastethewaste
ID: 4411212118 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 21:11
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thats because Crawfords not in to huck up all those bad shots, nazr has just been cleaning up Crawfords junk.
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| 26 | xpdurmind Sustainer
ID: 319471922 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 21:12
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Did Gasol start at center?
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| 27 | blade
ID: 1111152621 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 21:17
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Nenad gets his shot blocked at least 4 times a game. Pretty poor considering he's 7 feet tall.
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| 28 | Pancho Villa Sustainer
ID: 533817 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 21:22
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McCleod starting at PG for the Jazz 1st game back from the IR. Arroyo - trade bait?
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| 29 | MadDOG
ID: 41143108 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 21:27
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If Krstic can get to 20 TSNP by the end of the game I will be happy. Look who he is playing against tonight, the Wallace brothers, McDyess, Prince. It's not easy to get rebounds tonight.
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| 30 | Pica Donor
ID: 161141312 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 21:29
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Knight DNP-Flu
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| 31 | tastethewaste
ID: 4411212118 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 21:51
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Carter is hurt, either that or he's just dogging it like he usually does and pretending he's hurt.
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| 32 | MadDOG
ID: 41143108 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 22:02
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Krstic is up to 23 TSNP against some tough competition tonight. What more do you want for 500k?
The Nets announcers said something about the Nets signing Jerome Moiso. He will probably cut into Krstic's minutes.
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| 33 | MadDOG
ID: 41143108 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 22:03
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OVERTIME Nets Pistons
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| 34 | Farn Sustainer
ID: 451044109 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 22:04
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taste, how do you feel about Carter? You haven't made it clear in this thread. Try not to hold back so much.
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| 35 | tastethewaste
ID: 4411212118 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 22:12
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even when he has a cramp he needs to take 15 minutes to get off the court, rasheed just made a sweeping motion to sweep him out of here.
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| 36 | tastethewaste
ID: 4411212118 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 22:13
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farn, does anyone like this guy?
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| 37 | Great One
ID: 551038246 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 22:13
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yeah, for god sakes, he is cramping up like crazy, you never had cramps before? it doesn't exactly feel great... let the guy be.
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| 38 | Pica Donor
ID: 161141312 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 22:14
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Back to back stinkers from Brand.. still have to hold him thru until he becomes KG on the 4th...
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| 39 | CJ Donor
ID: 499271021 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 22:16
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OT saved me in the pistons game. Ben and Billips will probably salvage me mid 30's versus mid 20's.
Thank God!
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| 40 | Farn Sustainer
ID: 451044109 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 22:17
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I don't have the hatred you do. Do I think what he did this year in Toronto was right? Nope. But I don't spend time berating him in the action thread.
Why don't you point out how well he played tonight? Interesting that you have avoiding point out how great he actually played tonight. He singlehandedly got them the big lead in the first half.
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| 41 | tastethewaste
ID: 4411212118 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 22:17
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sure ive had a cramp before, i never made a spectacle of myself. These arent Kellen Winslow cramps for petes sake!
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| 42 | tastethewaste
ID: 4411212118 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 22:20
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its not just this year, its his whole attitude. Granted he got hot in the 2nd Quarter, he made 2 3s in a row. He finished shooting 8-19. Not exactly great playing. And when he was hot, he felt the need to shoot the ball from 6 feet behind the arc. Single handedly? hardly
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| 43 | wqrtyt
ID: 211342615 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 22:23
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19 shots in over 40 minutes isnt that many
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| 44 | tastethewaste
ID: 4411212118 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 22:24
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but making 8 isnt exactly dominating.
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| 45 | Farn Sustainer
ID: 451044109 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 22:25
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taste, try not to be biased. I'm not sure what your grudge is (from Toronto? Knicksfan? hurt you on a fantasy team at some point?) but why can't you just say he played real well tonight?
He did single-handedly carry them in the 1st half. That's a fact. He didn't start the game, came in after Jefferson got 2 fouls, Kidd played just 6 minutes, and they went to him as if he was already their star. I call that single-handedly.
In your next biased reply could you please tell me what your real reason is for hating him is? I'm curious now. Oh, and if its because you are a Duke fan that's just sad. I am a huge Duke fan and I don't hate him.
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| 46 | wqrtyt
ID: 211342615 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 22:26
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wow, jason kidd looks awful, the nets should trade him while he still has some value
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| 47 | V-2
ID: 441122820 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 22:26
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#43, he's a newcomer, so I'd say 19 shots is plenty.
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| 48 | wqrtyt
ID: 211342615 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 22:29
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but hes a star
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| 49 | Farn Sustainer
ID: 451044109 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 22:30
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i believe he took 12 of those shots in the 1st half with Jefferson in foul trouble and Kidd getting the limited minutes as he continues to recover.
Who should have taken those shots? Jason Collins? Jacque Vaughn? Yeah, you can tell me Krstic. But is that because you have him on your fantasy team or because you think he is a better offensive option than Carter?
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| 50 | tastethewaste
ID: 4411212118 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 22:32
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i actually hate Duke. I am a knicks fan, but i definitely didnt want him on my team. Ive never had him on a fantasy team. I think hes a very good player. Top 20-30, athletic wise probably top 10. I saw the game, i am forced to watch nets games, its part of my job. Carter didnt get hot until Kidd was in by the way, he was the one dishing to Carter when Carter started hucking shots up from 6 feet behind the 3 point line. I hate him because he is a waste of talent. He fakes injuries when hes supposed to play D, then basket hangs and does windmill dunks. I dont respect that type of player. KMart used to do the same thing. He chucks up shots for no good reason, hes not a team player. He is the definition of a selfish player. What else needs to be said.
I hate Kobe much more.
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| 51 | tastethewaste
ID: 4411212118 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 22:34
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krstic is not on my fantasy team, i dont play TSN.
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| 52 | Great One
ID: 551038246 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 22:44
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hey taste - I agree with you about KMart! I hate that guy... haven't seen enough of VC to judge yet. But he did play pretty well tonight, especially for just coming off the injured list. Maybe he will look more like "part of the team" when he understand the offense a bit more. Right now he is just playing one on one and on fast breaks etc.
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| 53 | tastethewaste
ID: 4411212118 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 22:48
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ummm...you serious? what you saw tonight was the best of VInce Carter minus dunks
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| 54 | peebee
ID: 22104329 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 23:00
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of course it is easy to come off the injured list when you are not reallly injured ... the man has no heart.
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| 55 | Great One
ID: 551038246 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 23:06
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anyone know where these two are? Kmart A.Daniels
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| 56 | TT
ID: 519452117 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 23:08
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A. Daniels has some tonselitus (sp?) thing. It's his 2nd or 3rd game missed I believe.
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| 57 | Great One
ID: 551038246 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 23:16
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good for us Ridnour owners in theory.. yeah.. its the sick season, we will all get bit a few times i predict. (I guess Knight already).
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| 58 | Pica Donor
ID: 161141312 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 23:17
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Wade loses 40k on a day he plays, amazing. And LBJ loses $80 after scoring 65.
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| 59 | Great One
ID: 551038246 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 23:24
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I get LBJ and JBL confused... is Lebron the guy that jumps out of the gym with a cowboy hat on?
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| 60 | Great One
ID: 551038246 Mon, Dec 27, 2004, 23:31
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unf'nbelievable... not paying attention i sell Ridnour instead of Knight. Good thing I got extra trades laying around (and good thing Ridnour hasn't done crap anyway)... I am too tired, I need sleep - and this all happens cause I can't make trades at work anymore so I have to work around it making them at weird times.
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| 61 | perugoon
ID: 31923116 Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 00:08
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Camby just went down writhing in pain...may have just gotten nailed in the 'nads tho.
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| 62 | perugoon
ID: 31923116 Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 00:10
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Camby's ok...he's back in and taking his FTs
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| 63 | xpdurmind Sustainer
ID: 319471922 Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 00:26
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Great One, Why sell Knight. He'll be back. A lot of poor #'s from a lot of widely held players tonight. If Murphy would pass the ball he would have fantasy stud #'s.
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| 64 | \m/
ID: 48922413 Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 00:59
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This is disgusting. Brand with two straight stinkers when I believe he hasn't gone under 20 TSNP this whole year. Grant Hill also putting up subpar numbers.
This is a frustrating part of the year. My early season luck has run dry.
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| 65 | Great One
ID: 551038246 Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 07:16
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moving Knight cause he has to go in less than a week anyway... so why not be ahead of the curve especially with the $ laying around. I went to Maggette which gives me the G/F flex when I have to move Wallace/Primoz and possibly Okafor.
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| 66 | tommyd
ID: 5311242319 Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 07:58
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Funny thing I was watching the Nets game last night and my wife comes home, who is far from a die hard sports fan, and sees Carter being carried off and says "He's not hurt again,they need to put him out to pasture?" I thought it was funny. As a long time Raptor fan, Vince is just frustrating to watch now, he comes off as being a whiner. As taste said he hasn't lived up to his talent. Although in his defence he will never be the player he was due to injuries and he never gets any calls. Not defending him but I've watched games where he tried to go to the bucket and gets hammered and nothing is called because he has the rep of a soft player although he still takes way too many fadeaway jumpers. It would be nice just to see him give 100% which he hasn't done in Toronto for a long time.
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| 67 | tastethewaste
ID: 251043226 Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 14:38
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Farn, was that good enough? You asked me to clarify and be unbiased, did I succeed?
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| 68 | Farn Sustainer
ID: 451044109 Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 15:58
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good enough? not really. we can agree to disagree.
I think you go a bit far on your assessment of him. Magic Johnson he's not but you make him out to be Kobe.
I never heard these complaints about him before this year (tail end of last year too I guess). Let's give him a chance on a team that isn't awful and see what he does. If he continues to play like he did in Toronto this year then I'll agree with you. But I can't hang a guy because playing in Toronto for a team with crap talent for a coach that didn't like him isn't the easiest thing to do.
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| 69 | tastethewaste
ID: 4411212118 Tue, Dec 28, 2004, 20:38
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so whos biased? In my assessment i said in clear print, i hate kobe much more, thats not calling him equal to Kobe, its calling Kobe worse.
I really cant believe youve never heard Vince Carter be criticized. He has been called over rated since his rookie season. He was dubbed selfish for going to his graduation on the same day as Game 7 of the playoffs. There have been plenty of instances, check Toronto papers after year 2 or so of him exaggerating injuries. Just watch him play, offense vs defense. The intensity difference is staggering.
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