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| Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Sun, Oct 30, 2005, 19:30
The draft is complete, and all undrafted players have cleared waivers.
Since the rules for injuries are going to take some getting used to, I'll repeat them here:
Three bench slots are available to hold any player. Two additional bench slots will be enabled, but are restricted as “injury slots”, hereafter abbreviated as “IS”. A player in an IS must be placed in one of these bench slots, and cannot remain in an active slot.
An NBA player shall be eligible to fill an IS if he is listed in any “informed” source as being injured more seriously than “day-to-day”. Examples of acceptable information sources include (but are not limited to):
RotoWire
RotoWorld
RotoTimes
ESPN
NBA.com
Newspaper stories (citing facts, not speculation).
Once a player appears in an NBA game, he is no longer eligible to fill an IS, even if a published source fails to remove his listing. When a player is no longer IS eligible, the team shall have a limited amount of time to remove that player from the IS, as defined below.
If a manager wishes to move a player into an IS but cannot find a confirming source, he may request that the Commissioner approve the designation. The Commissioner shall use his best judgment in making such a determination.
If any manager believes that another team has improperly moved a player into an IS, he may file a protest with the Commissioner. If any manager disagrees with a Commissioner ruling, he may request a league vote. Six votes shall be required to overturn any Commissioner ruling related to an IS.
Each Wednesday, the Commissioner shall review all rosters to assure that any filled injury slots are appropriate. In the event that an IS is improperly filled, the Commissioner will notify the manager of the violation via the email link at the Yahoo site. The notified manager will have 48 hours to correct the roster or to provide a satisfactory explanation. If a breach remains uncorrected 48 hours after notice, the Commissioner shall have the authority to drop a bench player in order to bring the roster into conformance. The player dropped will be based upon the Commissioner’s judgment as to the best interests of the impacted team.
The Commissioner shall have the latitude to extend the time for curing a breach if he knows that the manager is unreachable and/or unavailable to make the adjustment.
No player which is in an IS slot may be placed in a starting slot on any day unless the bench has been cleared of that injury slot, or unless another player is eligible to replace that player in the vacated IS. In the event of a violation, the Commissioner may elect to void any stats generated by improperly activated player.
As before, no player may be picked up as a free agent and immediately placed in an IS. Free agent additions are only IS eligible 10 days after pickup, unless the player has appeared in an NBA game after the pickup and the IS eligibility occurred thereafter.
My understanding of past precedent is that IL status would not have been declared until the first game day. In Yahoo terms, this would mean that no player would have been IL eligible until at least some time on Tuesday, Nov. 1.
Thus, you can move a player into an injury slot starting at noon Eastern time on November 1. This should put those in all time zones on a reasonably available posture.
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| | | 1 | hoopsklyce
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Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 09:58
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regarding injury policy about the following ammendment
A player is eligible for the injury slot after X games of DNP. I propose X is 3.
That way I don't need to wade through the injury reports. Also then you don't need to be subjective about the description of the injury.
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Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 10:03
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I considered something like that. I have a couple of concerns.
1. A DNP is not necessarily symptomatic of an injury. In fact, a player could be on the active list and still DNP. Or, as another example, a player could DNP because he has been sent down to the developmental league. That should not be a reason to place him in an injury slot.
2. By the time a player misses three games, he might be close to returning. Thus, while I could see using this as a "safe harbor", I don't think it should replace the original guidelines.
3. Some injuries are easily identified immediately. If a player breaks his leg, that manager would not want to wait for 3 games to move him to an injury slot.
It's OK with me if we want to institute an additional guideline that states that if a player misses 3 consecutive games due to injury, he may be placed in an injury slot. I can't imagine that this would pick up any player who wasn't already eligible under the previous standards.
The concern for the need to "wade through injury reports" rings hollow to me. If you notice that a player fails to play and you don't why, what is a manager likely to do? Check out an injury report. That's what fantasy team managers do.
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ID: 46946127
Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 10:22
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Happy Halloween!
Hoopsklyce, I can appreciate the desire to make the criteria more concrete & black & white, but I have to agree with Guru's reasoning here.
Since we're discussing the injury issue, I had another clarifying question or two.
(1) does the manager of the injured player need to notify the league in this thread of moving the player to IS and also at that time post a link to their confirming 'documentation' of the injury? Or is this more a behind the scenes thing that people can just take care of themselves, and documentation of the injury will only be necessary if someone challenges the action, or upon commissioner review it is questioned.
(2) does the manager have to wait until an injured player DNP's to move them to an IS? For example, if your player leaves the game due to a separated shoulder, his team doesn't play again for 3 days, and the prognosis is he'll be out at least a week (for example), can he be immediately moved to an IS and replaced until such time as he begins playing again, or would that manager have to wait until he formally DNPs 3 days later to move him to IS and replace him with another bench player.
(3) Just wondering about the day-to-day designation in the case of one site listing him as day to day and another listing him as out for an expected time period, or "likely" to miss a week or what have you. Does this player qualify for IS or is that too general a question and each situation will need to be on a case by case basis. If so, does the manager just do it if he feels it's justified or does he need to seek commissioner or league approval or post his rationale in this discussion thread (for every such move or only questionable ones)
(4) The other issue is what if a player continues to be listed as day to day, but continues to be out for an extended period of time? Do we want to set up a guideline that even a player formally listed as 'day to day' but misses a certain amount of times or number of games would be eligible for an IS? I would think that would be appropriate depending, as no matter what his official 'designation' is, if he's not playing for you he's not playing for you. Last year, I had Tinsley. They could never figure out what was wrong with his foot for like months. Throughout that whole time he was listed as 'day to day' because the Pacers never wanted to put him on the IL which would require him to miss the mandatory 5 games in hopes that he might actually be ready to go sooner than that. So he was never eligible for IL status, yet he missed 10's of games. Perhaps the whole 'day to day' thing will lose some meaning this year as teams are no longer required to stick players on an IL with a mandatory number of missed games.
I don't mean to muck up the waters here. I'm just trying to understand what intentions and procedures are.
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Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 10:26
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what if a player is day to day with a strained hamstring and misses three games - he can not be put on IL using our rules
I would like that option
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Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 10:28
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I now see that Pacers mentions that in 4)
That is why I wrote the ammendment in the first place
Of course I will already have seen the injury listed in the one of the resources such as rotoworld
It is not to be inplace of referencing the sites
it was not to be in place of any of the other criteria
the criteria how has a hole in it
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Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 10:40
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how about 4 bench spots and no IL?
have one more round of draft (random order or continue the draft)
don't need to worry about all the admin during the season and roster checking?
I am in a league with 8 active players and 8 bench spots
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ID: 46946127
Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 10:51
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Re #6, thought we had pretty much decided not to go this way? Just kind of waiting on an official final policy decision?
I could see implementing the IS being a problem with a group of manipulative managers and a lazy or inept commish. However,
We....are....RIHC!!!
*streamers and confetti falling*
:-)
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| | | 8 | Swish City
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Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 10:55
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hoopsklyce, i think you might be missing the point somewhat regarding these IS slots. What we're trying to accomplish is an accurate (as we feasibly can) simulation of the IL rules that were in previous existence.
If, using your own example, a player is day-to-day but it keeps him out for say 3 games, that in itself would not qualify a player for the IL as things were before. It's not a case of whether we want the option to put a player in an IS, it's whether they should be there. Typically, a player with this kind of injury would have their injury status updated if they miss several games. If not, well, these things happen. And PR's example of Tinsley is a very good one. But if these situations weren't dealt with when we had an IL, isn't that the way we want it this time around as well?
We're not going to be able to catch every single occurrence of an injury this way, but at least if we stay away from day-to-day status, it's fairly close. The flip side of the situation is another good example here: if you are allowed to IS a player that is day-to-day but has missed 3 games, what happens when he unexpectedly comes back the next day and you've just picked someone up?
That's why i think we should steer clear of any day-to-day and "eligible after x DNP" type qualifying criteria, as it just makes an already murky situation even messier.
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Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 11:15
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I'll address some of PRs specific questions:
(1) A manager does not need to post a notice when he moves a player to an IS. We are using the honor system here. Presumably, if anyone else cares to monitor it, they can notice most transactions by looking for those in which a player is added without a corresponding drop.
(2) You do not need to wait for a DNP to move a player, as long as you have appropriate evidence that the injury qualifies.
(3) You only need to find one source of confirming information. If one site lists a player as day-to-day but another says he is out for longer, then you can make the move.
(4) I think this is the issue that hoopsklyce was getting to. Swish has already pointed out one objection to this.
There is a "catch-all" provision that says that if you can't find a source to confirm a longer term injury you can request a ruling from the Commish. Until I see the actual situation, I can't say how I would resolve those issues. But it's not clear that a proposal such as hoopsklyce's addresses the situation without creating other undesirable loopholes.
The intent of these guidelines is to try to implement the "spirit of the IL". To do so requires that we rely on some subjectivity. As the season progresses, we may discover a better way to do this, or we may identify additional guidlelines which seem to work well. Consequently, consider this a work-in-progress. But after a little thought on the hoopsklyce proposal, I'm not persuaded that it is a desirable amendment.
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| | | 10 | hoopsklyce
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Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 11:22
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It seems so clean and easy to have 4 bench spots and be done with it. Right now the injury policy is over 30 lines.
Why model last year injury rules? - why not model the way the NBA is doing it now
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| | | 11 | hoopsklyce
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Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 11:26
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I can see the 3 games rule is problematic so now my only ammendment is give one more thought to having the 4 benchs spots
Other than that I am also to keep the IS policy as drafted but I would hope it does not become a headache to to use
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ID: 46946127
Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 11:27
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Just my .02, FWIW, like Hoopsklyce, I'd like to see the Tinsley situation changed so that we CAN place that type of player on our IS. To me, that is more in line with the spirit of the rule, even though in the past administratively it was impossible. This could actually be a benefit of us manually administering our own IS (bench slot) in that we get to use what criteria make sense to us as a group and are not dependent on the whims and inconsistent timing of the yahoo! website administrators, who for example, apparently didn't realize until we notified them that there was a new CBA this year and the IL was done away with.
As far as your example of what do we do if the day to day player (who is not playing for you) gets put on IS and then replaced, and then unexpectedly plays.....
Then our rules apply and the situation needs to be corrected I think within 48 hours (somebody gets cut and the player is taken off of the IS).
Or is the deadline 48 hours from when you get busted? ;-)
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ID: 46946127
Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 11:34
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Oops. Started post #12 before Guru's post #9 and then actual work got in the way :-) and I had to delay finishing the post.
I see what you're saying Guru about how the provision to address a Tinsley type of situation was already there in the language about appealing to the commish for other unique situations re: IS eligibility.
I wonder if it wouldn't be beneficial to go ahead and put something more concrete into place on that though, and say something along the lines of what Hoopsklyce was suggesting to add a 3 games missed while on Day to Day status as being an automatic qualification for IS.
I would see the benefits of this as being reducing adminstrative load on Guru because there are some concrete criteria in place for that type of situation and also would maybe help clarify that type of situation for all of us so we all feel comfortable that there will be consistency in that decision-making. Not that we don't trust you Guru, I think we all definitely do. Just that maybe someone wouldn't know when it would be appropriate to ask for IS eligibility , and maybe another manager would think the situation proposed wasn't work asking for or would disagree with the decision, or whatever. I just see this kind of criteria as a win-win, but of course, I could be missing something.
-PR
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Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 12:02
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The reason for modeling an IS rule is that had an IL rule in place when we started the draft.
Some injury-prone players were drafted with the explicit understanding that they could be put in an IL slot if they were eligible. This would not put the team at any bench disadvantage (vs. other teams) unless the 2 IL slots were already filled.
As Commish, I do not believe it is fair to change that relative value proposition after the draft is completed. Next year, we might very well decide to use an extra bench slot. But, I believe that the league effectively starts when the draft starts, and rule changes should only be implemented after that time when there is a compelling reason.
Frankly, I don't think the rules I have set up are onerous for anyone, including me. Each of you only needs to be responsible for your own team. You should be aware of you own situation, and able to make informed judgments. If you are unsure about a particular situation, ask me. If I am unsure, I'll survey the league.
My only obligation, other than responding to specific inquiries, is to do a once-a-week review each Wednesday. All I need to do is check 12 rosters for bench slots, and confirm that any team with more than 3 bench slots filled has someone eligible in the extra slots. Assuming that a player was appropriately placed in a slot, the primary issue will be to ensure that the player has not played in the past week. That's a simple one-click check.
Those of you who are objecting to the proposal seem to be doing so mostly on the basis of my workload. Let me make a deal with you. I'll worry about my workload. You only need to worry about yours.
I don't mean to sound argumentative about this, and I appreciate those of you who are proposing a kinder, gentler solution. Maybe I'm being unrealistically naive. But I really don't think that, for a league with managers of RIHC caliber, the proposed criteria are going to be a significant problem. And I have already rejected the simplistic "add a bench slot" as being inappropriate for this league under the circumstances.
I wouldn't propose this for a public league in which some managers were unknown or non-trustworthy. I don't have that concern about this league. I'd rather get it right, as opposed to keeping it simple.
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Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 12:07
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PR[12] - the effective time limit for removing an active player from an IS is 48 hours after "getting busted."
I'll appreciate it if you move them prior to that. But I don't want to impose an obligation to check your team every day. And I don't want to imply that by waiting until you are busted, you have somehow taken unfair advantage of the rules.
Therefore, the official limit is that an active player must be removed from an IS by the Friday following the first Wednesday after he has appeared in a game. Of course, if you want to start that player sooner than that, then you must take him out of the IS at that time.
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ID: 46946127
Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 13:48
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Mike D-
don't miss your cue....
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| | | 17 | Guru
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Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 14:08
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How's this: link
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ID: 46946127
Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 14:25
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Brings back memories of Addicted's GMD team a couple years ago. When you opened the thread, the Music that played for the Bulls introductions- when they shut the lights out- played. I can't remember the name of it, but I used to load that thread just to hear our theme song (man that sounds pathetic!) it was so fun. I remember then there got to be a bit of a battle between the GMD teams on who had the coolest music. Can anyone remember the name of that song, or better yet, post a link to it?
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| | | 19 | Mike D
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Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 14:38
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PR, not sure what you mean. Guess I missed my cue. ;)
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Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 15:43
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Hard to imagine, Mike D. Not much gets past you.
Try Posts 96 and 107 to refresh your memory.
OT, but I see your distant cousin, Mike C, has been around.
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ID: 46946127
Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 15:58
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Sirius
Alan Parsons Project
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| | | 22 | Mike D
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Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 16:08
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There would be too many of them in this thread, PR.
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| | | 24 | Flying Polack
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Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 17:04
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Hey all,
I was lurking in your thread and there's one issue you might want to address.
When you waive someone in Yahoo! the player isn't removed from your roster until the next day. If somebody comes off IS on Friday and another player is waived, you could technically have both players active on Friday night.
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| | | 25 | Guru
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Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 18:10
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That's probably an idiosyncrasy that we'll have to live with.
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| | | 26 | Mike D
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Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 20:07
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Good point though. It wasn't like that with IL because there was a one day delay. No so with "IS"!
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| | | 27 | Doug
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Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 22:02
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Hmmm... so I guess it depends what your definition of IS is.
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Mon, Oct 31, 2005, 23:53
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duh-dunt...chhhh!!
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| | | 29 | Guru
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Tue, Nov 01, 2005, 10:37
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I will be running the daily standings program as in prior years, complete with capabilities for splits by date and per game averages. The program keys off of team name, so please do not change your team name at Yahoo after tonight. If you don't like your current team name, feel free to change it now, however.
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| | | 30 | Mike D
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Tue, Nov 01, 2005, 10:40
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Thanks Guru, that's a terrific program.
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| | | 31 | hoopsklyce
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Tue, Nov 01, 2005, 10:41
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Is Carlos Boozer eligible for an IS slot? He is on the Jazz inactive list for a tweaked hamstring.
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| | | 32 | Mike D
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Tue, Nov 01, 2005, 10:43
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"An NBA player shall be eligible to fill an IS if he is listed in any “informed” source as being injured more seriously than “day-to-day”."
Isn't he day to day?
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ID: 330592710
Tue, Nov 01, 2005, 12:10
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We have reached the time at which you may fill you injury slots. I see that Doug and Skinneej were quick on the trigger, adding players at 12:00 and 12:01.
Boozer is technically eligible because RotoWorld has him listed as being out for at least the first three games. RotoWire is not that negative, but we only require one source to certify an injury as more than day-to-day.
Diogu is also eligible for me. I haven't decided who to add, though.
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Tue, Nov 01, 2005, 12:21
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I just realized that with both Boozer and Diogu out, I have no healthy PFs. Not a good way to start the season.
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| | | 35 | Mike D
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Tue, Nov 01, 2005, 12:40
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Time to trade. ;)
I didn't see the Rotoworld source on Boozer.
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Tue, Nov 01, 2005, 12:48
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I'll make you a nice deal on Croshere :-)
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| | | 37 | hoopsklyce
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Tue, Nov 01, 2005, 13:28
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this is from Rotoworld on Boozer...
Carlos Boozer probably will miss at least the first three games of the regular season with a strained left hamstring.
He'll be on Utah's inactive list, and should be on your fantasy team's bench for the first week of the season. He tweaked the injury (again) in yesterday's practice. Nov. 1 - 9:20 am et
My interpretation of Rotoworld is that he is not more serious than day to day and therefore does not qualify for IS according to our rules above. Although I don't mind if he is on put on IS.
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Tue, Nov 01, 2005, 13:32
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another question
If I have a player who has a season ending injury how long do I wait until I can have him put on IS and fill his spot. Do I need to wait for the commish to switch him to IS? Could this period of time vary depending on his schedule for different owners?
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| | | 39 | Guru
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Tue, Nov 01, 2005, 13:46
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hoopsklyce - if a player truly has a season ending injury, you might as well drop him.
But the answer to your question is that you can do it immediately. You do not need to get advance approval. Injury slots are self-administered, and self-determined. And by the way, there is no formal "IS" slot. You simply expand your bench by one player.
I would interpret "day-to-day" as meaning that the player could return "any day now". Being reported as "Out at least first three games" does not meet that definition. I'm open to other interpretations, however.
I'm not planning to split hairs on this. You are each capable of making informed judgments. I'm sure that over the first few weeks we'll encounter some interesting situations, and if so, please air them here, so that we can all develop a common understanding.
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Tue, Nov 01, 2005, 13:52
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OK - did not see that list before
as a test I tried to add Allan Houston (retired) to see if an owner can add any player whenever. I did not see him on my roster so I assume it goes to commish for approval?
Is there a way for an owner to know which of the 4 players on the bench is the IS player?
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| | | 42 | Guru
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Tue, Nov 01, 2005, 14:00
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There is no evidence that you added Houston. I suspect you didn't click your way through the entire process. There are multiple confirmation screens.
There is no Commissioner approval process. If you add Houston correctly, he will appear.
There is no way to identify which bench player(s) are filling an IS. Presumably, it will usually be obvious.
My weekly review will be simple. If a team has more than 3 bench slots, then I need to figure out which bench player (if any) is currently eligible for an IS. If none are, then I'll send out an alert to that manager, asking for either a roster adjustment or an explanation.
Please make sure your email address on file at the Yahoo site is one that you will regularly check.
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Tue, Nov 01, 2005, 14:37
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In addition to RotoWorld (linked above), here are some other alternatives of injury reports which are free. Not all of them have data yet, but I assume all will be active once the season is underway. Some will probably be more out of date than others, but hopefully something current will be available somewhere.
RotoTimes
ESPN
CBS Sportsline
FoxSports
Inside Hoops
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| | | 44 | hoopsklyce
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Tue, Nov 01, 2005, 14:59
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Guru
Thanks for promptly and thoroughly answering my questions. During the day I am a structural engineer and the highway engineers accuse me of splitting hairs. I am hopeful we avoid any injury related acrimony but - hey - if it is not me involved it would provide for some spicy posts!
HK
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Tue, Nov 01, 2005, 15:02
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I can't get to Yahoo from where I am today, but my recollection is that when you add a player, you see it in the transactions on the league page. Also, I think that player is NOT eligible to play for your team until the following day. That's why he would not show up on your team if you click the "my team" link, but are looking at the current day's lineup. If on that screen, you click on the next date, you should see the player you added and if you dropped anyone today, you should also see that player missing from your team on tomorrow's schedule. If I'm right, then, Post #24, though well-intended, would be inaccurate.
-Pacers Rule
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Donor
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Tue, Nov 01, 2005, 15:06
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Also, seems for ease of use, we could put the injured player in the bottom bench slot on your team. I think yahoo fills the bench slots up from top to bottom, so you may have to just rotate your IS player in and back out of your lineup for a given day to make sure he's the bottom player on the bench. Not a biggie, but just might make it easier to see which player(s) to be looking at for injuries since we may or may not know the injury status of all players around the league when we glance at a roster. just an idea. If it's too much of a pain to do those extra couple clicks, no problem.
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Tue, Nov 01, 2005, 15:14
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PR: I think post 24 is accurate. If you drop a player today, you can still have him in your active lineup tonight. So, let's assume that today you want to activate (and start) Allen Houston, and you therefore decide to drop Larry Bird.
Since Yahoo has Houston in a bench slot, you can immediately move him into a starting slot. You can simultaneously drop Bird, but he will still be available for tonight's lineup. He won't be missing until tomorrow.
Changing the subject slightly, I originally thought that the "next day availability" issue was why Hoopsklyce couldn't find Houston. But he wasn't on tomorrow's roster either, and he also didn't appear as a transaction on the front page. So I suurmise that Hoopsklyce simply fell one click shy of completing the transaction. That's happened to me before, especially when adding a player without a simultaneous drop. There always seems to be one more confirmation screen than I expect.
Hoopsklyce: Every time I drive over a bridge, I'm happy to think that some engineer was a hair splitter! Feel free to continue to poke at the process, because I think we can all learn from it.
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Tue, Nov 01, 2005, 15:20
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PR: Your suggestion would be a helpful one, but can be a pain to implement. I just tried it for Diogu, and I had to move several players in and out of starting slots just to get it done. Over time, if you are rotating healthy players in and out of your lineup, the inactive one(s) will naturally drift to the bottom anyway.
So if you can do that, that's great. But it is nothing that I will try to enforce. I'll only have to figure out which 1-of-4 or 2-of-5 are injured, and in most cases, I think that will be obvious.
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Tue, Nov 01, 2005, 15:28
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You're right, Guru. I forgot the player you're "picking up" in this scenario is ALREADY on your team in an IS slot. And yes, since today's transactions become effective for tomorrow's games, even if you drop Bird from your starters today, he still can be in your lineup for tonight, assuming you have enough available slots to play them both tonight. (i.e. IF Houston and Bird together make 13 active players for tonight for example, obviously you can't get away with that.)
We could possibly agree as a league that in this type of scenario, on the honor system, each manager would agree to bench the player they are dropping for tonight's games so they can't 'double dip' from that roster spot for tonight only. However, the problem obviously with that is that if anyone forgot, you'd have to go in and manually delete the stats (if that's possible) and it's probably just easier to let 'em play. This should not really have a major effect on games played. Plus, the manager in question was already at a disadvantage in the first place because his better player (his starter/keeper) was injured and he had to pick up a sub from FA land. So one tiny little bonus of one extra game played from his replacement on his way out the door is maybe a small consolation prize for the injury. Plus no games have to be voided out for that reason.
I know this is just rambling about something you've already decided about, Guru, but once in a while I just enjoy a little typing practice. I hope you improved your reading fluency in the last 30 seconds. I'm sure you had nothing better to do with those brain waves. As an added bonus, hoopsklyce, you have the comfort in knowing that others can also find minutia to discuss here, just to give Guru those great opportunities to guide and direct us all, and for Mike D to play some more of that great organ music.
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ID: 330592710
Tue, Nov 01, 2005, 15:30
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That's enough talk about Mike D's organ...
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| | | 51 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 41831612
Tue, Nov 01, 2005, 15:31
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My wife's getting jealous....
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| | | 52 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Tue, Nov 01, 2005, 15:31
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Definitely.
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| | | 53 | Pacers Rule
ID: 46946127
Wed, Nov 02, 2005, 10:47
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Strange that the Yahoo! site has not updated for last night's scores yet.
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ID: 330592710
Wed, Nov 02, 2005, 14:44
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I just posted the standing page: http://rotoguru1.com/hoop/RIHC.html
You can also get to it by clicking on the league icon on the blurb page.
I have not checked all the numbers, but at least everything seems to be operating. When we get another day of stats, I'll double check the splits for accuracy.
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Leader
ID: 040625911
Wed, Nov 02, 2005, 17:06
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Alright, I'm in 3rd. I get to come back next year. Oh, wait that's not the final standings? Looks pretty good though after day 1! :-p
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| | | 56 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Wed, Nov 02, 2005, 17:35
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Yeah you, me, and Slack, cuz we've played 22 games more than anybody else. ;)
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| | | 57 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Wed, Nov 02, 2005, 17:41
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Is there also a per game stats/ranking link that I'm missing or is that just an intermittent (or past) feature?
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Donor
ID: 030815418
Wed, Nov 02, 2005, 17:45
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I've got some ground to make up!
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| | | 59 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Nov 02, 2005, 18:03
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PR: click on the link for split stats by date, and then select "per game averages".
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| | | 60 | Pacers Rule
ID: 46946127
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 03:20
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Thanks, found it. Bummer about Nene, Doug.
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| | | 61 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 14:04
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FWIW, it's pretty easy to screen for injury slot players. If you go to the Roster section of the RIHC page, you can quickly see which teams have more than 3 bench players. Those teams must either have eligible injuries, or they might have a vacant active spot (although that usually doesn't happen).
This roster view is based on the lineups used for the previous night, so it is typically about a day out of phase with current add/drop activity. You can see the latest activity (as of the time the page was generated) by scrolling up a bit.
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Leader
ID: 02730280
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 15:07
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Yeah, it is a bummer about Nene... but more for his sake (and the Nuggets' sake) than for mine! It's just fantasy hoops for me, for him it's his job and will likely heavily impact his salary as a free agent next year. And I really like the guy too. Major bummer for him. Did you see the play? It didn't even look like he torqued it too badly or anything. Injuries suck. The NBA should ban them.
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Leader
ID: 41831612
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 15:22
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C'mon Doug. He's just a piece of meat like all these other dudes on our rosters. ;)
Yeah, the play looked harmless. Really can't believe the amount of damage caused by it.
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Leader
ID: 02730280
Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 02:51
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Guess I'm trying to get all my injuries out of the way early. Got home a few mins ago and read about Shaq. Of course, someone a bit closer to the TV and/or internet already snatched up Zo. That's in no way to be misinterpreted as a knock on Mike, it was a good move, but just one reason that I think I prefer football... you don't tend to have the "first to the computer" scenarios that you do here in basketball. Makes me feel like I need to monitor every game every night in order to stay competitive, and that just isn't going to happen! =-p
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| | | 65 | lionprideguy
Leader
ID: 906204
Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 03:26
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Yeah, especially this early in the season when things are still so up in the air, I always feel real nervous being away all night and not around to see anything that might happen until late at night. Of course, I know there's probably the other side where we're awake for the late games when east coast people are asleep for the night, or however awkward it turns out for the Euros and their time difference.
On another note, I was at an exhibition game tonight for our women's basketball team, when Sam Cassell and Cuttino Mobley wandered in. Hadn't expected to see them there, but they kind of stood out in a gym with only 200 people in it. There's your answer to what NBA players do on their off nights though - go watch women's basketball!
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Leader
ID: 052347519
Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 07:47
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speaking of the Euros, I have some questions for you guys. I am leaving Sunday to spend a week in Graz, Austria for a week on business. (this will be my first journey out of the US) I don't suppose either of you live near there? I also have a 5 hour layover the following Sunday in Frankfort.
so, in addition to the typical 'what do I need to make sure that I do while there?' questions, I also need to know if it's typical to have internet access in hotels - I assume I'd have to get some type of adapter for my laptop charger.. I need to know if I need to preset my lineups in hoops and football for a week. I probably also have to give up hope for watching the Colts finally stomp the Patriots on Monday Night (Tuesday Morning...) Football, huh? I don't suppose they have a sportschannel that would replay this Tuesday night - maybe I can download it off the internet.
thanks.
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| | | 67 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 41831612
Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 08:02
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It's ironic because all of last year I don't think I was ever the first to run to the computer and get someone in this league. I hopped on the web for 20 minutes or so, and actually had just gotten off, and was turning my TV OFF when I saw Shaq get hurt. So I touched the line (on the floor) and ran back to the computer as if I was completing a suicide......but as always.....Zo's for sale. Just another piece of meat.
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| | | 68 | hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 08:10
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Mike - You were quick for Zo - I saw the injury then a few minutes later went to the computer for Zo and he was GONE. I don't like playing against people on the West Coast at times since they see all the late games while I'm sleeping.
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| | | 69 | hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 08:11
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[66] Make sure you know the type of power source they use and get the right adaptor. Also, when I was in Russia my laptop would not switch to AC power when it was fully charged. It was switch back to battery. So I was always needing to plug and unplug the computer.
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| | | 70 | Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 08:15
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I can't speak for your specific locations in Europe (I'm in Scotland), but certainly most places i have been have some kind of internet access. If you don't have it in the hotel (usually it's a connection in the room at a per hour rate), it is very likely ther will be internet cafes relatively near. Edgar might know a bit more, as he quite often is travelling Europe in business. As he's from the Netherlands, he naturally hates going anywhere near the Germans ;)
OT: As for your game, funny you mention that. Over the last few days i have been investigating internet TV and found this thing called PPLive. With it, you can pick up international ESPN over the internet. It's downloadable here, and the ESPN schedule is here...your game appears to be on there. I can email you if you wanna find out more about this. I'm using it to watch Cavs v Spurs tonight - woohoo!
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| | | 71 | hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 09:39
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more on adaptors
I actually bought a whole set of adapters that had the countries labelled on them. In Russia I actually had to stack two adaptors. If you don't bring the right adaptor I assume you can find a place to buy it. I bought a new memory stick when in Russia when mine stopped working (to back up my data)
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Leader
ID: 052347519
Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 21:21
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Thanks guys for the advice. I'll shop around tomorrow some and see if I can find adapters here before I leave (and keep my fingers crossed regarding access at the hotel I'll be staying at). I might check into the PPLive, Swish, although it appears the game's on at 3am local time. I'm not sure that'll be a good start to my work week...
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Donor
ID: 910311210
Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 23:47
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The volatility of the early season is amazing. Feeling like "The Jeffersons" tonight. Woo Hoo
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Dude
ID: 3010361110
Sun, Nov 06, 2005, 00:19
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I picked up a player, according to the Rotoworld link listed above Maggette is "out indefinately ".
First I've seen that. Is he qualified for the IS designation, if not I'll drop a player first thing tomorrow.
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| | | 75 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Sun, Nov 06, 2005, 08:28
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Yao went HUGE last night with 14 boards and 7 blocks. P.J. Brown also off to a good season's start.
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| | | 76 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Sun, Nov 06, 2005, 09:32
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Um, Yao IS huge. ;)
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| | | 77 | Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Mon, Nov 07, 2005, 05:22
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Who needs LeBron with the 1st pick when you can get your almost 3Ds from Boris Diaw in the 15th round? ;)
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ID: 341036514
Tue, Nov 08, 2005, 13:03
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Dave R[74] - Maggette is OK for an IS slot, but you still have to move him to your bench.
I didn't state it specifically in the guidelines, since I assumed it was intuitive. But perhaps I should state it specifically:
A player in an IS slot must be on your bench. He cannot be held in an active slot.
"No harm, no foul" in this instance, since he hasn't played yet.
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| | | 79 | lionprideguy
Leader
ID: 906204
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 03:30
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Just catching up with the scores from the night - I don't know if it's just me, but I feel like there's been some really ugly games and boxscores so far this season. Anybody else get that feeling, or am I off?
I'm sure I'm a little more biased about it because of the less-than-premier numbers some of my guys have been putting up, but I can't imagine there was much of anything for anybody to celebrate in games like tonight's GS/Chi, NY, or Utah team scores, for examples. Just wondering if it's just me, or maybe if the larger than usual player movement this offseason has some teams a little slow to mesh, keeping FG% down.
Also, watched the Kings/Nuggets game tonight and I have to say that was the least joy I've seen a Kings team play with since before the Mitch Richmond/Webber trade. Really too bad, as they were so fun to watch for these years. I like Adelman as a coach, but the lack of interest the team showed tonight certainly doesn't bode well for him right now.
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ID: 46946127
Thu, Nov 10, 2005, 20:56
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There sure seems to be a good amount of guys that seemed to be sleeper picks/steals that so far have been total duds and are turning into having a much less than projected role with their teams. I've got Al Jefferson for example. I'm sticking with Jefferson but I see that some of these guys have hit waivers already.
I'm SO glad I stayed away from NY players. I see Brown has got some points to prove there about playing the "right way" and doesn't seem to be too concerned about his players' fantasy lines.
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| | | 81 | Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 09:35
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Hey Mike, are you planning to be even more pesky this year than you were last? I see you're keen to get your Games Played up early this year after the unfortunate injuries and suspensions last time around. Just quit it with your uncatchable Zo boosted block totals, a'ight? ;)
As regards early season form, i seem to remember last year that both FT% especially and FG% were particularly gruesome across the entire league for the first few weeks or so. I guess no matter how much training camp prepares you, it still takes some time for the entire NBA to find it's shooting boots in the opening month.
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ID: 5710591120
Fri, Nov 11, 2005, 22:53
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Yeah, that Zo pickup was STELLAR for you, Mike D. Congrats on winning the sprint to the computer. I was watching it on tape delay so I didn't find out about it until he was gone.
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| | | 83 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 08:32
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See post 67. I don't usually win those sprints. Those extra 12 oz curls are paying dividends.
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| | | 84 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 16:36
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Cheezy Poofs come in 12 oz bags!?!?
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| | | 85 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Sat, Nov 12, 2005, 17:30
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Only in PA. ;)
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| | | 86 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Sun, Nov 13, 2005, 04:07
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Hmm... not to sound like the whiner, but after I draft Livingston, he goes from "back by the season opener" to "out indefinitely". Then Shaq goes down in the second game of the season. Lewis injured the other night after 2 minutes (though he did come back to play on Friday). Damon Stoudamire injured after 19 minutes the other night and held out of tonight's game. And tonight my first rounder Kiri gets injured after 10 minutes of court time.
Not complaining... injuries happen, and in Shaq's case you have to expect them from time to time (but the 2nd game of the season!?!?)... just observing that my season seems to be off to an unusually ominous start. Oh tempermental god(s) of fantasy basketball, why hast thou forsaken me? *sigh* Perhaps I should head to my local Church of BronBron tomorrow morning... I hope it's as much fun as it looks in the commercials. =-p
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| | | 87 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Sun, Nov 13, 2005, 11:27
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Oh yeah, and Nene too.
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| | | 88 | lionprideguy
Leader
ID: 906204
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 03:47
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Yeah, I'll have to agree you've had a pretty bad run of it so far, Doug. At least Rashard bounced back to play a good game today.
Even more than the standings volatility, I love seeing the early season player rankings this time of year. Camby's been dominant so I can't really argue with his #1 ranking so far, although I've no idea why Jason Kidd is listed #3 with his mediocre assists, scoring, and FG%.
And Kobe Bryant listed down at #53 - hey Tosh, I've got Tayshaun Prince who is listed above Kobe at #52 ... maybe if you throw in a bench player you might be able to talk me into swapping them! :)
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| | | 89 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 11:10
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Using the ESPN player rater (which I think is much more credible), here are the current top ten based on per-game averages:
1 Camby
2 Garnett
3 Duncan
4 Pierce
5 Marion
6 Arenas
7 Wade
8 Nash
9 LeBron
10 Nowitzki
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| | | 90 | hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 17:24
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Mike
what part of PA are you in? I know I probably asked you this last year
david
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| | | 91 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Mon, Nov 14, 2005, 19:28
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The capital city of Harrisburg bro, and you did ask me last year. ;)
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| | | 92 | hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Tue, Nov 15, 2005, 09:37
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well lets get together some time
I am in the area at my inlaws over thanksgiving
what are you up to on the friday after? my wife will probably go shopping - something I dont want to do
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| | | 93 | hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Tue, Nov 15, 2005, 09:39
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it is apparent my team is weak in FT%
will be looking at others rosters for some mutually beneficial trade opportunities
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| | | 94 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Tue, Nov 15, 2005, 17:55
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That sounds great, IF I'm here. At this point it looks like I'll be at a hoops tourney for my daughter. Will know in a couple days. Always something.
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| | | 95 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Tue, Nov 15, 2005, 21:15
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Mike D- you planning on slowing down anytime soon? You're off to a jackrabbit start not only in total stats but also on a per game basis. Kudos. And able to do it while picking up extra games played. Amazing.
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| | | 96 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Tue, Nov 15, 2005, 21:41
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It just goes to show what team unity can do for a fantasy team.
;)
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| | | 97 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Wed, Nov 16, 2005, 12:31
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Austin, thanks for the memories. Enjoy your stay on the bench at 8 mil a year.
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| | | 98 | lionprideguy
Leader
ID: 906204
Thu, Nov 17, 2005, 03:45
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Hey everybody - just a heads up, I'm going to be traveling the next few days to Arizona and so am kind of unknown on internet access again. I might be able to check in here and there, but can't know until I get there, and the work hours will keep me away from a computer most of the time anyway. Good luck to everybody through the weekend.
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| | | 99 | Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Thu, Nov 17, 2005, 05:13
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Could someone please do me a favour and let the Euros' team know that they are in fact NBA calibre players, and it is not necessary to shoot like they are still playing their first game for their High School team? I mean come on - 42.7% overall? Surely it must be a new record to have 7 (yes, that's seven) players on your team shooting under 40%. Ridiculous.
And Mike, at least give us all a chance, dude. Geez. ;)
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| | | 100 | hoopsklyce
ID: 4210171815
Fri, Nov 18, 2005, 16:17
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is there a way for me to associate the team with a person. I can tell that MIke is in first place from the comments but not sure how I would have been able to know otherwise
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| | | 101 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Fri, Nov 18, 2005, 16:42
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On Guru's RIHC site, if you scroll down to the Current Rosters, Guru inserted manager names where necessary.
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| | | 102 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Fri, Nov 18, 2005, 21:24
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lionprideguy - Kobe is now ranked #47, while Prince has dropped to #80. I'm glad I didn't accept that offer when you made it!
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| | | 103 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 23:30
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Mike D, your roster is hitting on all cylinders, top to bottom. Some amazing foresight you had in your draft, not to mention a couple timely FA pickups.
I guess this is why there is so little trade activity in the league to this point. Mike D may actually be content with his team!
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| | | 104 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 23:37
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Lol----still early. Real early. And I certainly have made some offers......just not quite as many. Always looking for a good deal. ;)
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| | | 105 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Fri, Nov 25, 2005, 12:39
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Early season commentary: Wow, I was nearing the panic point only 1-2 weeks into the season... Nene, Shaq, Kiri... I was sitting in 9th with 42 points. Almost made some dumb offers. But things have turned around. One week later (Nov 16th) I was up to 6th with 49.5 and now through yesterday's games I'm tied for 4th with 61.5... thank goodness for early season volatility! (At least when it seems to be favoring you!)
I certainly don't have any delusions of my teams recent level of performance maintaining, but as long as I can weather this storm of early season injuries, then I really like my chances long-term, assuming both Shaq and Kiri get healthy in the next few weeks and live up to their typical form! My blocks are suffering as of late...
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| | | 106 | hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 08:11
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I cannot get into the league page - getting a message that says I am not a member even though I am logged in
David
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| | | 107 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 08:19
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Seems to be a general problem at Yahoo. All of my teams are missing as well.
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| | | 108 | Dave R
Dude
ID: 3010361110
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 08:27
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No doubt a fantasy time warp this morning. TSN hasn't updated either.
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| | | 109 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 17:38
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The problem continues. I hope your lineups were set for tonight!
Looks like I cut Croshere loose a little too soon. Carlisle has been staying with him, despite the return of his 2 true Centers (Pollard & Harrison). His play has earned him the minutes, and Jermaine @ center is a tough matchup for most centers, who aren't as quick. And if the PF's sag off of Croshere, he can burn them from downtown. He's also been quite active on the boards as of late. It's about time he start earning that 8 mil a year!
A side note: looks like Jonathon Bender's career may be done. They're looking at MRI results and may have an announcement within a week. There was a story in the Indianapolis Star today.
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| | | 110 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 12:50
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Tinsley (groin) could be out for several more games, the Indianapolis Star reports.
Miles underwent an MRI on his knee Sunday that revealed "something" that could keep him out of action "for a while or indefinitely," according to Blazers coach Nate McMillan, The Orgeonian reports.
Guru - Do both these guys qualify for injury replacement?
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| | | 111 | Guru
ID: 2811847
Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 13:17
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Miles certainly does.
Tinsley is a borderline case. I checked several sites, and they all either say "day-to-day" or the equivalent, and some don't list him at all. I guess I'd be hard pressed to say that "could be out for several more games" is sufficiently definitive to exceed our "day-to-day" standard.
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| | | 112 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 13:24
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Thank you. Never hurts to check!
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| | | 113 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 15:47
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Good sportsmanship Tosh to check in before you move them over. I hope Tinsley does not have another perpetual/frequent day to day year like last year. He missed a ton of games and his return always appeared to be imminent.
Jasikevicius is playing well as the starter (shooting lights out) so I don't look for the Pacers to rush Jamaal back. Since everybody knows how injuries have a tendency to drag on with Tinsley, and they ultimately are going to need to have him fresh come playoff time, I look for them to take their time with his injury recovery through the regular season this year. FWIW.
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| | | 114 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 15:57
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I guess it's a good thing I picked up Jasikevicius off of waivers when I did!
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| | | 115 | Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 10:06
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And to think the amount of flak we received because of our prediction of Diaw's greatness! I guess some things you just never can predict...
Not sure what can be said about our team. The best performances have come from unexpected sources thus far (RJ, Diaw, Zaza), whereas our stalwarts have been little better than average. I am encouraged that our FG% is finally approaching normality (although maybe that's because Baron's sched has cooled down), but it's a loooong way to get even halfway up that ladder at the moment. When is Amare back? ;)
There are a lot of teams gaining momentum. It seems like this might be the closest RIHC yet. Guru, i'm curious to see that you seem to have a Yao/lack of blocks issue again. Some things never change, right? :)
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ID: 2811847
Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 11:05
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Yeah, although at least I'm not dead last in blocks - yet. Last year, I was completely out of the running.
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| | | 117 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Fri, Dec 09, 2005, 22:08
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Go Vince Go!
Mike D, might you be mere mortal after all?
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| | | 118 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Fri, Dec 09, 2005, 23:59
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I'm not, but my players are. Lol
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| | | 119 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Sat, Dec 10, 2005, 11:46
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Ok, Mr. trade guru. See if you can figure something out wherein you pick up some steals (from SkineeJ) and give some boards (to me), and I give some 3's to SkineeJ in exchange for his steals. Not sure if we have players that fit the bill and of equal value, but it would balance out all three of our squads.
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| | | 120 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Sat, Dec 10, 2005, 14:02
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No luck recently with the man with the skinny J. Nor with anyone else in this league for that matter. Close, but not smokin', it would seem.
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| | | 121 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Sat, Dec 10, 2005, 15:29
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Shaq is set to return to action this week. If anyone is interested in dealing for him, let me know. You can wait to see him back for a few games if that would make you more comfortable... I think he'll have a lighter-than-usual workload the first few.
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Donor
ID: 910311210
Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 23:34
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SkinneeJ- did you get my email?
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Leader
ID: 057721710
Tue, Dec 13, 2005, 22:02
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Guru - Since tomorrow is roster-check day ... I need to activate Josh Howard from my IR. Does Tinsley (5 games missed, but perpetually day to day) finally qualify for DL placement?
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| | | 124 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Dec 13, 2005, 22:33
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I guess it's reasonable to assume Tinsley is qualified until he appears in a game.
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Leader
ID: 057721710
Tue, Dec 13, 2005, 22:43
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Thanks for the quick response.
unsmooth segue - I'm thinking it's almost time to finally bring Swift back into a starting role. He has certainly been dead weight on my squad.
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| | | 126 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Tue, Dec 13, 2005, 22:57
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Nah he still sucks.
;)
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| | | 127 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Tue, Dec 13, 2005, 23:04
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Seeing that I'm 33 games behind you in GP, I might as well put that dead weight on the court. I've given him plenty of time to learn our system.
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Leader
ID: 041831612
Tue, Dec 13, 2005, 23:17
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I had a lot of guys back from last year that were familiar with mine. I expected to start off strong.
Gotta love my FT %, which a short time ago was pretty good.....guess we should have worked more on those.
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| | | 129 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Tue, Dec 13, 2005, 23:22
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Pacers Rule, no I have not seen one the last few days. If you used the e-mail in the league manager listing I should have gotten it. Try it again.
Well, I certainly am disappointed with where my team is right now, but I have been a historically slow starter, so I expect to still make a run at it. I addressed one weak area with the Redd trade, but it will take time to see the results. My best bet is to get quality games now until Grant is fully back and the Artest situation gets figured out. I had not been getting much quality from several spots, so I will have to manage my games played better.
I am not ready to sell off a category yet as some have had interest in Marbury seeing as I am currently last in assists. He has played better since the slow start and is averaging nearer to his usual numbers. At least the C. Frye pick has worked out for me. Not much else has gone as expected to this point.
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Leader
ID: 041831612
Tue, Dec 13, 2005, 23:24
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Frye looks like a brilliant pick at the moment. No way did I see him doing this, especially under the Brown regime.
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ID: 906204
Wed, Dec 14, 2005, 00:58
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Mike D - sorry about that Duncan FT game tonight. I do feel for you, I think it was Ben Wallace's 7-22 from the line last week that personally shot me straight to the bottom of that category. If I'm going to have terrible FT%, I should at least have had some shotblockers to justify it, instead of being last there too!
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Leader
ID: 040625911
Wed, Dec 14, 2005, 21:50
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Just wanted to find out the official status for Artest. Technically he has missed two games due to injury, but we know there is more going on in the background. Based on the initial reports he was expected to miss about 5 games (Rotoworld 12/9) and Yahoo also lists him as out with the wrist injury. Since he was injured first before demanding a trade, does he continue to be eligible for IL status until he plays another game?
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Donor
ID: 910311210
Wed, Dec 14, 2005, 22:01
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I can confirm the 5 games thing, and also, that he absolutely WILL not be playing another game for the Pacers, so until he's traded, he's as good as injured reserve. Of course, drafting Artest was a calculated risk given just these type of potential shennanigans. I'm good with it either way regarding his RIHC status.
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| | | 135 | Dave R
Dude
ID: 3010361110
Wed, Dec 14, 2005, 22:15
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Skinny-J, this should be good enough for you to replace him
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| | | 136 | Guru
ID: 2811847
Wed, Dec 14, 2005, 22:22
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Since he was injured before the trade demand, I think he remains injury-eligible until he plays again.
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| | | 137 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Thu, Dec 15, 2005, 00:22
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Thanks, guys. Since Grant Hill made his debut tonight, they will swap places and Artest will serve as my 1 injured player for the forseable future.
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| | | 138 | hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Thu, Dec 15, 2005, 10:21
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I put Manu on IL -any issues there
Rotoworld Injuries said out until end of Dec
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| | | 139 | Guru
ID: 2811847
Thu, Dec 15, 2005, 10:59
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I'm struggling to come up with a rational explanation for the recent success of my team.
I'm way below every other team in games played. I've got 32 fewer games than the top team, and 50 fewer than the second place team. Every team in the league has played at least 12 more games than I have.
My team has been racked by injuries and DNPs all season. Gerald Wallace has had Camby-like durability. Ilgauskas is currently out. Troy Hudson, who was a very nice F/A pickup, has been out. Diogu hasn't played much, and isn't playing many minutes when he does play. And then there's Boozer.
Childress was very disappointing for the first month, although he has done better lately. Sean May has been a nice fill-in on occasion, but hasn't played much (or well) lately. I've been playing Eric Snow regularly, but only because I can't stand getting further behind in GP.
Obviously, I'm helped by good shooting percentages, categories which aren't hindered by reduced games. I'm awful in rebounds, much of which I blame of Boozer, although most of my other injury problems have impacted forwards. I'm almost last in blocks as well. I don't know whether I can salvage those cats or not - but I'm not ready to punt yet. The season is only 25% over.
I guess I'm overloaded in guards, so I'm trading off big man stats for guard stats. So far, that is apparently working.
And then there is Iverson. Suffice it to say that with just about any other first round pick, I'd be doing worse. If he slacks off, I'm in big trouble.
But if I can ever get a healthy squad and start to make up some games, this team apparently has potential.
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| | | 140 | hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Thu, Dec 15, 2005, 15:25
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hey Guru
maybe Yahoo made a scoring mistake? After reading your blurb I dont see how you are in third!
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| | | 141 | Guru
ID: 2811847
Thu, Dec 15, 2005, 15:53
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Perhaps Smush Parker is the key!
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| | | 142 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Thu, Dec 15, 2005, 22:08
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Yeah, it's fun being out in front for a bit here, but you and Doug with your awesome 'per game average' stats are like a train barreling down on me as I try to get off the tracks. Or something like that. I'm metaphor-impaired. Or is that an analogy?
My only hope is that when you two start making up your games played, you will have to do it with players who aren't contributing like your top core is, and your per game numbers may drop off. Otherwise, those trains will run the jackrabbits right over.
Too bad about Boozer, Guru. That's one part of this game I don't like- a completely unpredictable scenario like that- much like those who drafted Amare in the first round before the news of his surgery hit.
You know I was cursing you for taking Boozer and leaving me with the lowly Randolph. In fact, I even offered to swap players and give you a better draft position in later rounds. Now, I'm thankful I ended up with my second choice there, though Zach has been less than I'd hoped.
Smush Parker has actually been a super FA pickup, by the way. And you're fortunate as well that Iverson's knee situation has so far turned out very well this year.
It's nice to see some chatter in here as of late.
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| | | 143 | Guru
ID: 2811847
Thu, Dec 15, 2005, 22:54
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Actually, I drafted Smush in the 15th round.
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Donor
ID: 910311210
Thu, Dec 15, 2005, 23:31
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Oh, well, then...an excellent 15th round pick! :-)
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| | | 145 | Guru
ID: 2811847
Thu, Dec 15, 2005, 23:32
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Better than my 5th rounder, that's for sure.
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Donor
ID: 910311210
Fri, Dec 16, 2005, 08:53
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Mike D, good luck with Jalen. I finally decided he was my 'weakest link'....therefore...."Goodbye!"
I see I was premature in sending Al Jefferson to waivers, however. As soon as I did, Blount got into dutch with Rivers. Now, Raef is dogging it and Jefferson is beginning to emerge. Hard to predict with those guys. You almost need all three on your team so you can bench the one who's currently on the 'outs'.
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| | | 147 | hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Fri, Dec 16, 2005, 14:45
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The moment I waive James JOnes will be go back to preseason form
Maybe I get lucky with Jefferson
I regret letting Sarunas go - What was I thinking!
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Donor
ID: 910311210
Sat, Dec 17, 2005, 01:11
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Probably the same thing I was thinking when I didn't make any efforts to pick him up. There's actually a Pacer I'm somewhat surprised hasn't been picked up yet. I'm not sure I've got room for him at this point, but until a little more time passes and the Artest situation plays out, there's always a chance a timely pickup to hold and see how the rotations develop might pay off. Obviously that's why I snagged Granger, even though for now he's riding my bench until he gets consistent minutes.
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Donor
ID: 910311210
Sun, Dec 18, 2005, 16:52
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Wow. Lost 8 1/2 points last night! Easy come....easy go!
I picked up Chucky Atkins and moved Derek Anderson to the IL on the news that he is expected to miss 2 weeks.
So, Mike, do you think Jalen coming from my squad to yours accounts for the recent momentum swing? ;p
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Dude
ID: 0931275
Mon, Dec 19, 2005, 04:21
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Out of last place in FG% at last, woohoo! The sky's the limit now ;) And thanks Mr Garnett - only been waiting about 20 games to get a couple of b2b KG worthy efforts. Hopefully this is the start of something a bit closer to the norm for him.
Finally, some decent games out of Iggy, JJ and Josh too. Could EuroSmeagol be turning the corner? Yeah, and maybe Baron will start shooting 45% from here on out too...hmmm :)
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Donor
ID: 910311210
Mon, Dec 19, 2005, 22:27
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Insane how bad Jalen is this year. That was definitely a draft pick to forget.
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| | | 152 | Dave R
Dude
ID: 3010361110
Tue, Dec 20, 2005, 00:04
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Pacers Rule, you added Atkins the other day. Who did he replace?
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Donor
ID: 910311210
Tue, Dec 20, 2005, 01:51
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Dave R, See Post #149 ;-)
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| | | 154 | Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Tue, Dec 20, 2005, 08:24
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Bobby Jackson's status updated from day-to-day to out indefinitely on Rotoworld, so moved him to 2nd IS slot.
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| | | 155 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Tue, Dec 20, 2005, 11:05
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Not sure if this warrants a pickup or not----if the masses can advise me I'd appreciate it. ;)
Kareeem Rush could miss some extended time after aggravating a finger injury that has bothered him off-and-on for a month.
"It's a lot worse -- it's killing me," Rush said of the pain. "I'm out at least a week." Keep him reserved - he'll likely be out until after Christmas.
Dec. 20 - 9:19 am et
Source: Charlotte Observer
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ID: 2811847
Tue, Dec 20, 2005, 11:11
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Although Charlotte plays only twice in the next week, if Rush says he's out at least a week, then I think that's enough for injury status. Players are usually more optimistic about their own prognosis.
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| | | 157 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Tue, Dec 20, 2005, 11:16
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I'm moving Okafor to the IL as Rotoworld lists him as 'Out indefinitely'.
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| | | 158 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Tue, Dec 20, 2005, 11:23
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Thanks Guru.
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| | | 159 | KnicksFan
Donor
ID: 030815418
Tue, Dec 20, 2005, 13:57
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I moved Telfair to the IL. He's out at least a couple weeks.
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| | | 160 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Thu, Dec 22, 2005, 04:16
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I'm looking for a quality C. Ideally would like to package a pair of forwards in exchange. If anyone might be interested, drop me a line and maybe we can work something out!
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| | | 161 | Dave R
Dude
ID: 3010361110
Sat, Dec 24, 2005, 11:02
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Added a player to replace Maggette based on this
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| | | 162 | LPG in NorCal
ID: 5093883
Wed, Dec 28, 2005, 03:38
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Hey everybody -
It's been real quiet recently, but just wanted to post a note I'll be out of touch from now until after the weekend. I'm leaving tomorrow to go to Las Vegas and staying there through New Years. I might have my brother check in for me to make a free agent pickup or something, but I'm setting my roster to plan to be out of touch until January 2.
I think this is the second RIHC boondoggle trip this year, following Tosh in October. Since LMU (where I work) is playing UNLV in basketball on Thursday night, I managed to create a "work" trip to fly out for the game and host a pregame reception, and am then paying my own way to stay a few extra nights. I'd have to say a high percentage of all trips associated with the word "boondoggle" probably involve Vegas. Any important trade offers or RIHC needs, I have a feeling I can be found at a blackjack table somewhere on the strip.
Thanks to all for making 2005 all the more fun, and best wishes to everybody for a great New Year!
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Donor
ID: 910311210
Thu, Dec 29, 2005, 09:01
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Now just wait a minute here. I have a rightful claim to the first RIHC boondoggling trip of the season! It was just to Indy, where coincidentally, I sit again as I type this (though not from a Starbucks this time. My hotel's internet actually works!) Was there a third boondoggling adventure I'm forgetting?
Yesterday we took the kids to the Children's Museum, which their literature says is the largest of it's kind in the world. It's actually a very cool place with multiple floors and a huge dinosaur exhibit in a converted IMAX theater. They make storm happen in there and with subwoofers making the thunder boom and the mids and highs making the lightning crack, you do really wonder why you're not getting wet. Pretty cool.
We're headed off to North Carolina to visit the wife's family over New Year's and for a late Christmas exchange. It will be nice to get some golf in since We've been under a foot of snow in Indiana for over a month.
Well, it looks like my Camby bubble has finally burst. Should have definitely sold high on him, but my greed wouldn't let him go for anyone but a first rounder. Hopefully after the surgery, and some time to rest and heal up from the bumps and bruises, he'll be back to his all-star ways.
I see Shareef has met a similar or worse fate. Good thing triggers weren't pulled on trade talks involving both players, as an injury of a player that you just traded for seems much worse than an injury to a player you drafted. Bonzi's still out with a groin tear. I hope he doesn't lose his mobility and quickness when he returns. His defense is a big part of his value. Oh well. At least I have a good cushion of games played to this point, and even the waiver wire lately is uncovering some gems.
Euros, I sent you a trade offer. I'll be on and off of the internet over the next week or so if you're interested in any ongoing dialogue or counter-offering. I do hope you'll check it out because I think it could be a deal that makes sense for both of us.
Peace from the Prince of Peace, and a happy new year for all!
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Dude
ID: 0931275
Fri, Dec 30, 2005, 09:19
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Does anyone know the real reason that Eddie Griffin started (and went off) against Seattle? Well, let me enlighten you. It's the result of months of EuroGollum pestering Dwane Casey by email, phonecalls, carrier pigeon: ANYTHING to make him realise that this dude should be starting over 2 stiffs like Kandi and Madsen. Now, it's gonna take another week of hard canvasing while Kandi's bursitis heals to make sure our man Eddie stays there and gets his damn Yahoo C eligibility. And to think some of you thought the festive season was just for holidays!
PR, i think we're not far away from something that would help us both a lot, but a bit more refinement and discussion is necessary to get something workable. I sent you a response.
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Leader
ID: 02730280
Sat, Dec 31, 2005, 19:59
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Can I also attribute the sabotaging of Stoudamire's knee to EuroGollum, thus promoting one of their preciouses (Bobby Jackson) into a starting role? Grrr... them's dirty tactics.
For the record guys, I would have preferred to have my stocking filled, not my IR slots. Oh wait, those slots were already filled anyway. Woo-hoo... now I have an overabundance!!! Depending on my mood, I can decide which player is on IR, and which is on the bench! Decisions, decisions...
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| | | 166 | Pacers Rule in NC
ID: 341113121
Sat, Dec 31, 2005, 22:08
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Swish,
Yeah, I read your response. I understand your thoughts and they
are valid. I think my second best player in the deal will have more
run than you might anticipate, but I understand the hesitancy. It's
hard to have enough time to devote to an analysis during this little
trip due to other obligations during the out of state family visit.
I've been so neglectful, I let Rasheed Wallace sit on my bench
tonight and of course, he went off yet again. Oh well.
Pacers Rule
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| | | 167 | hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Mon, Jan 02, 2006, 11:09
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I had Wade on my bench yesterday - I know the feeling
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| | | 168 | lionprideguy
Leader
ID: 906204
Tue, Jan 03, 2006, 03:56
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Wow, quite some numbers tonight from a limited set of games, especially because of the 3-OT one from NY-Phoenix. 60 minutes for Marion, 22 assists for Nash. That's more than most college teams get in a whole game.
Just a housekeeping note, I resumed my on-again, off-again ownership of the constantly "rumored to be in trade discussions" Flip Murray yesterday after news of TJ Ford's injury. He's expected to be out three weeks with the foot injury. I'm liable to set the record for cutting and adding a player the most times in a season with Flip soon. Anybody cut and addded a guy in Yahoo basketball more than 3 times in a single season? I'm not there yet, but could be some interesting stories out there.
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| | | 169 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Thu, Jan 05, 2006, 01:12
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Woot! RIHC moving up into the feature spot on the blurbs page...now that football season is over.
What? This is not making your day?
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| | | 170 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Sat, Jan 07, 2006, 23:43
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Them trade talks are a heatin' up....
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| | | 171 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Sun, Jan 08, 2006, 14:38
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I was just looking at the current standings as based upon per-game-averages.
Oddly, the teams currently 7-12 are the teams that drafted 1-6.
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| | | 172 | Pacers Rule
ID: 46946127
Sun, Jan 08, 2006, 22:47
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That is very unlikely, statistically. Pretty amazing, actually. I drafted in the #11 spot. I recall LPG was #12 and Guru was #10.
Anyone interested in a recap of the 2005 portion of our season?
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| | | 173 | Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Mon, Jan 09, 2006, 05:36
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EuroGollum are looking to trade for 3s, with FT% as a nice little side cat. We are looking to shop some assists, so this means guys like Knight and Diaw are up for grabs, and even Baron or KG if the right offer comes along. We have sent out some offers already, and will be sending out more, but feel free to throw some ideas in our direction also.
PR, i think we usually do a recap at ASB time, but i don't mind doing one for the season so far if folks want to. Although, you may have to give me quite some time to come up with something other than "We suck!" ;)
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ID: 46946127
Mon, Jan 09, 2006, 08:50
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Euros-
the trade you propose (3's & FT% for Assists) would fit my team like a glove.
Vladimir, thanks for the going away present with 8 3's for 30 points on 83% shooting. Enjoy, Skinnee J !
No need to break with tradition on the recap, I suppose.
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| | | 175 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Mon, Jan 09, 2006, 22:37
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I feel like I should get half of those 3's. Didn't we make the trade a week ago? Man it seems that it takes forever for a trade to go thru. ;)
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ID: 46946127
Tue, Jan 10, 2006, 02:05
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Dang, now even I'm starting to believe the Radmanovic hype.
And did anyone see Mo Pete's line tonight? A 7 cat night, with 22 points on 50% FG's and 100% FTs, and 4 threes. Add that to 5 boards, 4 dimes, and a steal. I hope all that was worth it for Battier's one block a game.
I've just traded 2 hot guys for 2 guys in mini-slumps. I hope that doesn't come back to bite me! Well, I don't mean exactly 'hot guys'...
And I thought I got the better of both of these deals. Time will tell!
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Leader
ID: 906204
Wed, Jan 11, 2006, 02:11
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#^%%@&^@$#!!!!
Okay, it's my fault so I've no right to complain, but ... after being so busy at work the last few days I hadn't checked into my team for a bit, and just realized I had the following players on my bench tonight: Eddie Jones, with 7 steals, Ben Wallace, with 12 rebounds and 3 blocks, T.J. Ford, 9 assists and 6 rebounds, and Al Harrington, 16/4/4. All wasted. Ouch. I know I'm not the only one to do this, so if anythig it might be the reason I'd vote to reduce game limits back down to 82 next year and reduce the importance of always checking in and shuffling future rosters. Anyway...
With Chris Paul making his re-appearance tonight in the NOK/Detroit game, and therefore off my IR spot, I've cut David Lee and trimmed the roster back down to 15 players.
As long as we're on trade talk, I should probably going looking for some 3's/points/FT as well. Or I'd be willing to take a low FT% guy in exchange for some blocks, maybe.
I'm going to go back to kicking myself now.
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| | | 178 | hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Wed, Jan 11, 2006, 16:50
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Geez- how bad can a strained hamstring be? This guy may need his leg amputated for it.
Carlos Boozer - F - Jazz
There's still no timetable for Carlos Boozer's return from his strained hamstring.
Boozer has continued his workouts during the Jazz's road trip, though his return to the active roster is not imminent, senior vice president of basketball operations Kevin O'Connor said. He's missed more than three months with the injury, and will require a few full-speed practices with his teammates before he could play again, and "he's not there yet." Jan. 11 - 10:24 am et
Source: Salt Lake Tribune
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Donor
ID: 910311210
Wed, Jan 11, 2006, 18:42
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Well,
he's in this situation because he pushed it too hard coming back the first time. Consequently, they are certainly in no rush whatsoever to risk another setback. I'm sure they'd rather have him healthy a month late than risk re-injury.
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| | | 180 | KnicksFan
Donor
ID: 030815418
Wed, Jan 11, 2006, 19:52
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Woe is me. Why is every sleeper still sleeping? Someone put me out of my misery. I need to trade McGrady or Brand for 3 or 4 high quality players. I need help in, lets see...every category.
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| | | 181 | Stromile Swift
ID: 36012120
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 01:21
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I've been coming to practice early, staying late, studying the opponent, and eating well - all because Mike D., back on Dec. 13 (post 126), accused me of sucking.
I'm here to announce he was correct.
I'd like to apologize to the city of Houston, my fantasy owners, and most of all my mother - I suck.
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| | | 182 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 07:11
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It's ok Stro. Just take the salary you don't deserve, keep some to pay the bills, and donate the rest to Guru. We'll even give you a special "tag" to put under your sorry @ss name.
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| | | 183 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 14:04
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Re: 178... I pulled my hammy playing soccer about 2 years ago, and as I recall it was a full 2 months until I could even jog without feeling that "yanking" sensation down the back of my leg. Even once I was fully healed, there was a psychological hurdle to overcome before I could really full-on participate in anything. To have attempted a comeback and reinjured it must only exacerbate it. Then again, I'm not a pro athlete and don't have the rehabilitation facilities, time, oversight, etc. that are available to someone like Carlos. All I'm saying is, even though it's not a major trauma, I can understand a hammy being an injury that takes a few months to come back from. Not that any of this really helps you situation... =-p
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Dude
ID: 0931275
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 17:30
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I have a question regarding the pending trade between PR and Doug (Shareef for PJ). Shareef is on Doug's roster in an IS slot currently, and PR's 2 IS slots are full already with Bonzi and Camby. Can you trade a player from an IS slot onto an active roster? Or maybe the question should be, can you trade an IS slotted player at all?
Additionally, if the trade does go through, does that mean that a) PR has to drop a player to make room, since his IS slots are full and/or b) Doug has to drop a player because he does not have anyone to move into his 2nd IS slot to free up an active roster spot when Shareef is gone?
I'm not trying to upset the apple cart, i just want to be clear in knowing how the logistics of the trade are going to work.
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| | | 186 | Dave R
Dude
ID: 3010361110
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 17:46
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IF I recall correctly I had a similar trade in the Elimination Chamber a couple of years ago ( Mike D, help me out here ). That was when Yahoo had IL slots.
Doug would have had to drop a player to activate Rahim to trade him. PR would have had to drop a player to fit Rahim onto his roster.
That being said the current structure of Yahoo, with no IL slots will allow the trade to go through. However PR definately has to drop a player.
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| | | 187 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 17:59
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When the trade goes through, Doug will have to drop a player if he doesn't have a second player who is eligible for the IS.
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| | | 188 | Dave R
Dude
ID: 3010361110
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 18:13
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Yeh that too. Am I right that PR has to drop one also since he already has his IS slots filled?
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ID: 330592710
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 18:17
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Why would that matter? You are allowed to have an injured player in an active slot.
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| | | 190 | Dave R
Dude
ID: 3010361110
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 18:22
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Hmmmm. I guess it doesn't.
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Donor
ID: 910311210
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 18:55
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What are you guys smokin?
You must have trade envy....
If you think about it, you're suggesting that if you've already got 2 injured players, and you chose to move them off your bench to the IR, and pick up some temporary fill in players to replace them, and then a third player on your team gets injured, you are supposed to have to cut somebody? The only restriction there is that you don't have a 3rd IR slot to move that player to so that you could pick up a temporary replacement for him too.
Until Bonzi or Camby come back, which hopefully will not be too long, I'll just have 3 injured players but still only 2 IR slots. We have a max of 15 regular players (12 starters, 3 bench) If we get 2 guys injured worse than day to day, we can stash them on our IR slots, and pick up two more players for a max roster at any one time of 17 players. If one comes back and you're down to only 1 injured player, at that point you need to drop someone, and I think we made it that you needed to drop them by the following Wednesday or within 48 hours from then. We'll have to go re-read Guru's directives on that to be sure of the timeline.
I figure when I drop to only 1 injured player, I'll have to go down to 16 on my roster, and when none are injured, I'll need to drop down to my regular 15.
In Doug's case, after the trade, he can only have his standard 15 players plus any injured players. Obviously Shareef will no longer be on his roster so he won't count as an injured player for him, which may result in him needing to drop a player.
Capice?
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Donor
ID: 910311210
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 19:03
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Ok, I'm curious for votes on which player all y'all would rather have in these trades- not so much based on your team's individual needs but more on overall fantasy contributions, taking P.J's C eligibility and C position scarcity into account as whatever size factor you think C eligiblity warrants.
(1) Vladimir Radmanovic or P. J. Brown
(2) Mo Pete or Shane Battier
(3) P.J. Brown or what's left of Shareef Abdur-Rahim's season
I'm starting to wonder if I gave up a bit too much in trade #3. Let's just say P.J. wasn't too happy playing for a team called "Pacers Rule". When he pointed out the per game standings, that's when I showed him the door.
We had one more trade go down, a 2 for 2, but I don't know if those owners want feedback.
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Donor
ID: 910311210
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 19:13
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Come to think of it, I've also got Derek Anderson, who is out as well. That's three IL eligible players already. Shareef will make #4 Looks like I'll be carrying a full roster for a while.
Hey Doug, want to do another trade for one of my injured players?
:-)
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| | | 194 | Dave R
Dude
ID: 3010361110
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 19:23
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Chill, Pacers Rule. I made a mistake and admitted it, I think your response goes a little overboard ( although I still think my original assesment in post 186 is correct- I don't think you could trade a player into an IL slot ).
And no, I don't have trade envy.
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Donor
ID: 910311210
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 19:29
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You want me to pull the post? I will if it bothers you. Just talkin' a little smack, I thought in good fun.
I am curious about why we shouldn't be able to trade a player into an IL slot, and what that even means?
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| | | 196 | Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 19:34
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For my part, i just wanted clarification. If the trade is ok to be accepted with one of the pieces in an IS slot at the time, that's fine.
FWIW, i've been trying to instigate trade envy into Dave for the last month. That's the only way he'll part with Ray Allen. I reckon i'm wearing him down and he'll give in any day now.
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Donor
ID: 910311210
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 19:49
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Sorry to be so cavalier about it. I didn't remember any discussion or rules about restrictions on trading players who were eligible for IL.
Gotta go get some lumber. Putting a storage attic in the garage.
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| | | 198 | Dave R
Dude
ID: 3010361110
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 19:54
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Nah leave the post, I don't care.
And it's not a matter of whether " we " can trade a player into a IL slot as we don't have one.
What I was trying to say and trying to remember, was a trade I was involved in a couple of years ago. The Yahoo set up as it was would not allow me to trade a player I had in an IL slot...I had to drop a player first, move my player out into an active slot and then offer the trade. If memory serves me, the same had to happen on the opposite end for him to accept it.
It's all irrelavant now as Yahoo has no IL slot.
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| | | 199 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 20:04
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That's pretty much right Dave. If you traded an IL player, it didn't really count "as a player" at all, so you'd need to go 3 for 2, your IL and 2 players for 2 players. AND, it couldn't be 3 for 3, EVEN IF the other team was trying to trade an IL player. The reason was because IL players were excess over the roster, and a player couldn't be put on IL until they were on your team officially, not before, not assuming a trade went through, etc..
I think that's what your memory is. And that was strictly a Yahoo IL system limitation. Doesn't mean it would have to apply here, as you point out, since this is the Guru IL league. Lol
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Donor
ID: 910311210
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 20:10
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Ah, thanks for clarifying. That makes sense. Now I remember that Yahoo kind of "froze" that player basically, if they were on IL. In fact, if they lost IL eligibility, and you kept them stashed there, you could still accumulate stats for your other players, and I think continue to make daily lineup changes, but you could make no more player transactions such as trades or adds until you brought that no-longer-eligible-for-IL player out of IL. I don't think I ever tried to trade a player I had in a Yahoo IL slot, whether they were IL eligible at the time or not. I'm good with whatever the will of the league and Guru is on that. Frankly It had not even crossed my mind.
So now I can wear the egg.....
Ok. Now I'm really going to the lumber store.
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| | | 201 | Dave R
Dude
ID: 3010361110
Thu, Jan 12, 2006, 20:24
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Thanks Mike D, I'm glad to see my memory is still functioning :)
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| | | 202 | hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Fri, Jan 13, 2006, 15:02
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thanks for clarifying the hammy thing - note I dont even have boozer - seems he would have been better off breaking a leg
I still have my first 11 draft picks - can anyone say the same?
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| | | 203 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Fri, Jan 13, 2006, 17:52
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I can't say the same Klyce.........because I have my first 12!
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| | | 204 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Fri, Jan 13, 2006, 18:06
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I still have all draftees, except for round 5, 10, and 12 (traded), and round 14 (waived).
Rounds 3, 6, and 7 are all injured.
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| | | 205 | lionprideguy
Leader
ID: 906204
Sat, Jan 14, 2006, 03:14
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Good question. I've got all of my first ten draft picks, but none from rounds 11-15 anymore. Almost all of them, though - Harpring, Granger, Olowokandi and Kenny Thomas - are still kicking around the league, so I don't feel too bad about their selections still. Just liked FA players better than them once the season started. Except for seeing I passed on Boris Diaw and Smush Parker, both of which were 15th-round picks.
As for PR's question, I'll answer because I know I'm always curious about the same external opinion after I make a deal. My answers:
1) Vlad, if this trade was made after the coaching change in Seattle. The things he can offer now that he's getting minutes are just harder to find from many other players, while PJ's numbers seem to more common to find. Of course, maybe it's also because I'm already carrying three NOK players and imagine picking up a fourth player from the team would require my team's name to the Fantasy Hornets.
2) Battier - more balanced, plus I've just never liked Mo Pete much.
3) The remainder for Shareef, because you also get to plug in someone else for the time that he's out so it's not a complete zero, then get the boost when he comes back.
Completely missed out today on all the IR/trade talk, been away from basketball because of work the last 24 hours or so (sorry for those waiting for a response on trade stuff).
Sorry to Guru about Boozer's latest setback, I'm beginning to believe in the talk about the karma payback from bolting the Cavs like he did!
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| | | 206 | Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Sun, Jan 15, 2006, 18:26
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The Euros trade Boris Diaw to Tosh for Mike James. This trade was a result of weeks of trying to find a way to get more 3s and better FT%. Tosh and ourselves had discussed quite a few trade possibilities before settling on this one. Of course, nothing is as simple as it seems on the surface. Had we waited a few days more, the news about Amare's delayed return would have fed through, and Mike James recent back issues would have come to light. Then this trade might well not have happened.
But the basis for the trade itself remains unchanged. The Euro badly need 3s and FT%, and though there is a chance that James is playing above himself, maybe he really will be this good from here on out. Here's to Calderon only keeping that starting PG spot warm for James return. Another important factor of this trade was to get good value for Diaw with the return of Barbosa and Amare (well, before the breaking news of the last few days about his return possibly in mid-March) imminent. The fact that we got assists back too, was an unexpected added bonus.
Of course, this is the point where i eat my own words, Diaw continues to play like some kind of mini AK-47 for the entire season, and James will of course, be day-to-day for the rest of the year.
I love Yahoo roto.
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| | | 207 | Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Sun, Jan 15, 2006, 18:43
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Oh, and as i say my tearful farewells to Boris on his last evening as a Smeagol, i'd just like to say that he forever will be the greatest 15th round pick i ever have, or will ever make.
Godspeed to you, Boris....Godspeed.
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Donor
ID: 910311210
Mon, Jan 16, 2006, 12:36
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That was a fine 15th rounder, Swish.
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| | | 209 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Mon, Jan 16, 2006, 12:49
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Mike James for Boris Diaw - Pretty much a straight category swap. Rebs and Blocks (hopefully) for 3s and FT%.
My two centers (Okafor and Swift) have been either injured or useless. I probably won't be able to gain any points in the Rebs or Blocks categories with this one trade, seeing I'm substantially behind. But it's a start in the right direction. In trading away James, I lose a number of 3s, but I'm counting on Kobe continuing to throw them up (I still can't believe he was 0-6 after eight games!)
And no thanks for the going away present James (DNP).
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Donor
ID: 910311210
Tue, Jan 17, 2006, 23:38
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Tosh, too bad about Swift. Just know that most of the rest of us were hoping he would drop to us. We just weren't quite ready to pounce on him yet. All the pundits seemed to be high on him, that is, of course, except Rick Kamla. Or was it Brandon Funsten (am I spelling his name right? That yahoo guy). He certainly fooled Houston as well, apparently.
I will admit, though, when Okafor came off the board, I thought "now that's optimism." :-) His awful FG% scared me away. For a big, he seemed to shoot worse than most guards.
Have you noticed Foster has been averaging nearly 10 boards a game for his last 10, now that he's getting up to game shape? He's not much on blocks, but he fills the C spot and will produce the boards. His minutes keep going up, and when J.O. comes back from injury, you may see him starting since, his skills are more complementary to J.O. than Harrison's. And I believe his FG% over the same span has been amazing, not to mention mid 70's FT% during that time as well. A classic under-rated fantasy player. (any takers?) ;-)
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| | | 211 | lionprideguy
Leader
ID: 906204
Wed, Jan 18, 2006, 03:52
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Aargh ... sorry to the two managers who I took an extra day to respond to trade offers on. I know trades are one part of the roto game I'm still learning and trying to figure out, how to compare and estimate effects. I think both made really great, fair, and reasonable offers, and maybe both were giving up more than they were asking me for. I should be willing to make changes, too, since my current roster has dropped me 4 spots and something like 6 points in the standings the last few weeks. Anyway, sorry to those managers if I held you up on other trade options. When someone is giving me exactly the categories I need, it's not that there's anything more I could ask for, maybe I need to adjust and be less conservative!
Tosh, I concur with PR about Swift. I wrote extensively in the draft rationales about how close I kept coming to taking him, too. I figured there was some risk, but my minimums expected more than this. Of course, I was one pick away from Boozer as well.
On a side note ... darn Zags. While losing to Gonzaga by 12 at their place last night wasn't exactly a terrible showing, it was still disappointing and Morrison was really a crybaby, especially trying to start that confrontation in the first half. He's such a strange player, what does everybody here think of his chanced in the NBA?
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| | | 212 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Thu, Jan 19, 2006, 00:33
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Do they play hoops in college?
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| | | 213 | Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Thu, Jan 19, 2006, 08:24
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Team EuroSmeagol - pioneering new ways daily to crush your FG% and FT% cats. Ugh. Things just ain't clicking so far this season. Can i somehow blame Dave R for that? ;)
As for Mike James - he has not had a stretch of 4 games without a 3 all season. Until now. Right after we trade for him. For 3s. I sigh heavily and loudly at thee...
It's getting more and more intriguing at the summit, though. Once the GP levels out there's going to be several teams in close proximity of the top spot. I'm really enjoying watching that unfold.
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Donor
ID: 910311210
Fri, Jan 20, 2006, 11:57
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Yeah, the stats per games played standings are a very nice comparison with the current standings. The truth seems somewhere in the middle, as those teams with more games played get to be more selective in who they start with their remaining games to play, with the teams with less games played can't be quite as choosy as they look to fill up their stats with good players to rotate in and out of the mix. I'm sure that was perfectly obvious to everyone, but since I'm still relative newbie, it seemed pretty insightful to me ;-)
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ID: 330592710
Sat, Jan 21, 2006, 12:07
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Looks like team Guru is in for a tough period. G. Wallace is now gone for awhile, and Boozer and Yao are still on the shelf. Korver is getting less PT for the moment, although I still think his longer term prognosis is fine.
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| | | 216 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 41831612
Sat, Jan 21, 2006, 12:35
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Saw that Guru, last thing your team needed. With my team being ahead in games, it really seems like a 2-1 or 3-2 deal would benefit me and also possibly benefit someone who is either behind in games or simply in need of a few good men. I simply can't use all the guys I have now that they are all healthy (except Rush) and for the most part performing well (knocking on wood). I know people don't always like unbalanced deals or parting with guys that they like and are productive, but it's all about filling in those positions and getting contributions from as many as possible (with exceptions being % cats). If not, no biggee, train will keep a-rollin'...
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| | | 217 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 41831612
Sat, Jan 21, 2006, 12:38
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...all night long. (big Ric Flair "whoooo" in the background).
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| | | 218 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Jan 21, 2006, 13:00
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I had the exact same thought, Mike, with your team in mind. I haven't had a chance to consider the possibilities, and probably won't for a few days, but I may be in a position to make a 1:2 move.
If so, I am not interested in rebounds - I'm already too far back in that cat, so those are wasted values. I do want to preserve (or improve) my shooting %s, although I have been hoping that Boozer (if ever) and Yao can do some of that.
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| | | 219 | hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Mon, Jan 23, 2006, 15:15
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Hoopsklyce and doug are tied in FG% AND FT%
And we are half a roto point apart in the overall standings
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| | | 220 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Wed, Jan 25, 2006, 23:32
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I'm in freefall mode right now. At least Mike D is testimony it's possibly to break out of a slump and turn things around. Come on Camby and Bonzi....get healthy!
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| | | 221 | Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Thu, Jan 26, 2006, 04:35
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Hmm, i notice there are IL designations on players in Yahoo - i don't remember seeing them last night. Does not affect our rules, i guess, but i wonder why they're back?
Maybe it's just a glitch/precursor to putting every single player on waivers again like last year ;)
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| | | 222 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Thu, Jan 26, 2006, 17:26
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Yeah, I see the same thing on my team. What a goofy thing, since they said they were doing away with it.
Let's hope it doesn't affect any league transactions.
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| | | 223 | Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Fri, Jan 27, 2006, 06:08
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Big trade.
I'll eat my hat if Casey doesn't sit Griffin behind Blount now. He's been looking for any excuse to sit him ever since he was "forced" to put him into the starting lineup. Pffft.
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| | | 224 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Fri, Jan 27, 2006, 11:34
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Yeah, Maybe Blount will get a bit of a resurgence in a new setting. Maybe KG will bully him into getting some rebounds, too.
Since J.O. is out, Jeff Foster's stock just rose, so maybe that will compensate for the fact that Wally Szcerbiak's stock probably just dropped. I can't imagine him shooting those same percentages in a new offense. I hope I'm wrong. I guess the Free Throws don't change much, at least.
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| | | 225 | lionprideguy
Leader
ID: 906204
Sat, Jan 28, 2006, 05:12
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And it's a 3-way tie for 4th place! I thought I'd drop Kwame just in case there were 1-2 teams left in the league who hadn't yet been tempted by him yet this season for a 3-4 day stay on their roster. Really, how in the world can a 7'1" guy starting and playing 26 minutes tonight not have more than one rebound fall right into his hands?
First night of some of the new trades playing for their new teams. It's the mid-season shakeup that throws a random monkey wrench into some of our teams, while the others get a surprise bonus. You can't plan for it, unlike the days when you could draft Chris Gatling.
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| | | 226 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Sun, Jan 29, 2006, 02:38
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LOL... there's a name I haven't heard in a while.
Shaq is heating up (pun intended) and I'm willing to deal him to one of the FT% basement dwellers (or anyone, they just seem the more likely candidates)... don't even need a C in return necessarily... 3s and/or steals are areas I'd like to improve. You'll obviously get a huge boost to FG% moving you up who knows how many spots... quite possibly to the top by season end. Boards and blocks will obviously improve for you too.
Maybe we'd need to do a 2-for-2 swap if needed to balance the trade out... I understand it can be tricky trying to do a straight up C-for-G swap, etc. Gonna send a couple specific ideas out there, but figured I'd offer a public post in case anyone else might be looking for a way to boost their squad.
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| | | 227 | hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Mon, Jan 30, 2006, 12:38
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what happened to gurus daily blurbs?
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| | | 228 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Jan 30, 2006, 12:42
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I have no idea how to interpret that comment [227].
Is that a slam on editorial content, or are you having technical difficulties accessing the blurb page?
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| | | 229 | hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Mon, Jan 30, 2006, 13:28
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I love your comments!!
When I go to Rotoguru.com the latest blurb I see is 1/24 and today is 1/30. So I thought you have not been posting blurbs lately. The latest one I see is below.
David
1/24 - The issue of home vs. away productivity for NBA players is something I’ve been pondering for the past few days. Yesterday, I noted that Kobe has averaged 10 TSNP/G better at home than he has on the road. And then, as noted in today’s quote, Van Gundy calls attention to TMac’s prowess in road games.
I didn’t have a convenient way to measure fantasy point averages split by home vs. away. So I bit the bullet this morning and added those splits to the averages on the individual player pages. For example, here is Kobe, and here is TMac. Lo and behold, McGrady has averaged 10 TSNP/G more on the road than at home, and over the last month, the gap has been 20 TSNP. No wonder Van Gundy noticed.
(I realize that home/away splits have little meaning over shorter periods, but I calculated them for all displayed periods anyway.)
I’m not sure what, if anything, I’ll do with these splits, as I suspect they aren’t particularly meaningful for most players. But since many of the denser schedule opportunities occur over prolonged road trips, it’s probably at least something to consider when buying into a player with an impending schedule imbalance.
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| | | 230 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Jan 30, 2006, 13:47
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Blurbs have been updated as usual since then. Sounds like you are getting a cached version. Could be an issue with your browser settings, or a proxy server issue with your ISP.
Try a slightly different URL to get to the same page. All of the following should lead to the same place:
http://rotoguru2.com/
http://rotoguru.com/
http://rotoguru2.com/index.html?0
For that matter, you can use the third URL format and append anything unique after a ? and that should defeat any attempt to supply the page from an outdated cache.
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| | | 231 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Mon, Jan 30, 2006, 13:54
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Interesting , I have been having the same problem as hoopsklyce. Same blurb comes up (1/24) from all three cpu's that I check in from.
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| | | 232 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Jan 30, 2006, 14:06
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Do any of those links in [230] get to the up-to-date page?
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| | | 233 | youngroman
ID: 50818914
Mon, Jan 30, 2006, 14:14
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only http://rotoguru.com/ shows no new blurbs (since 1/24), the other 2 (rotoguru2) are working.
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| | | 234 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Jan 30, 2006, 14:23
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Aha! I have an idea about what may be going on....
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| | | 235 | hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Mon, Jan 30, 2006, 14:25
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http://rotoguru2.com/
This one works for me
Thanks!
David
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| | | 236 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Jan 30, 2006, 14:34
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Last week, the rotoguru server was moved to a new IP address. I was thinking that everything should switch over seamlessly. But the primary domain for that server is actually rotoguru2.com, and I forgot that I needed to reset the DNS setting for rotoguru.com, which has to be managed independently (long story...)
rotoguru2.com should be working fine, and if you have the blurb page bookmarked, it is a "safer" URL to use.
However, rotoguru.com should start working again over the course of the next day.
Glad someone raised the issue. I'm surprised that it took almost a week before someone spoke up, although I think all of the links internal to the site are already set for rotoguru2, so I suspect (hope) many people already were getting to the updated page.
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| | | 237 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Mon, Jan 30, 2006, 16:06
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LMAO @ 228... "slam on editorial content"...
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| | | 238 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Jan 30, 2006, 16:27
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wouldn't have been the first time...
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| | | 239 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Tue, Jan 31, 2006, 00:15
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If you needed evidence that Mark Blount's poor play is mostly motivation, look what he did tonight against Boston. 16 pts, 10 boards, 4 blocks, 2 assists, on 100% FTs and 54.5% FGs. Of course, he was stylin my bench.
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Donor
ID: 910311210
Wed, Feb 01, 2006, 00:10
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Bonzi's back as of tonight. That puts me over the #'s limit, since Camby is also back now. As I understand it, I have until Friday to reduce my roster by 1. I'm working on a 2 for 1 trade presently (and I'll look at other offers, if anyone is looking to pick up an extra player they can count on for quality games played), but if I don't get one done, I'll cut someone by Friday.
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| | | 241 | lionprideguy
Leader
ID: 906204
Fri, Feb 03, 2006, 04:02
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Umm, anybody need a big man? Seriously?
Jeez, 5 centers who all start for their teams, and yet I'm still low in blocks. Anybody looking for a big man drop me an email.
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| | | 242 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Fri, Feb 03, 2006, 07:50
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2 for 1 consummated. Thanks, KnicksFan. Granger has 3 double doubles in a row, I believe, and the rest of the Pacers are the walking wounded, so I look for his minutes to continue. And we'll see if Blount can continue his momentum in his new digs.
Seems Mike Miller has been plagued by back problems in the past, but he's doing well now. Here's to hoping that it continues. Plus, he's a little bit of Battier insurance for me.
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| | | 243 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Feb 03, 2006, 13:45
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I've really been tanking lately. Since Jan 20, when Gerald Wallace went down, I've ranked dead last. I not only lost Wallace, but also Iverson for the last week, and Korver has been sub-par (so much for hedging an Iverson outage), and Yao has just returned. If I could get back to an active roster with Iverson, Wallace, & Yao, and if Boozer would ever decide to start his season, I'd have promise. But with the current cast of characters, I'm in a heap o' trouble.
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| | | 244 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Fri, Feb 03, 2006, 17:48
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I fear for my sans-Shaq FG% from here on out... although my FT% should improve without the anchor.
At first I thought Mike's score was false because of his games played, but his per-game averages are right up there, and he doesn't need to start as many second-tier players from here on out as the rest of us... so now I definitely am fearing the team of extremities to win it all this season. Although, now that I look at his squad as I type this post... I'm wondering who his injured player is... maybe Nelson? I thought Nelson was day-to-day... but haven't really researched it... just curious.
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| | | 245 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Fri, Feb 03, 2006, 18:30
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It was Rush, he played, and it became Nelson. Nelson has missed 6 games and won't play tonight, making 7 games, according to the Orlando Sentinel.
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| | | 246 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Fri, Feb 03, 2006, 18:56
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Mike D, you've had a great initial run, then a big drop off, now you're right back up there. You need to teach your guys to play consistently!
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| | | 247 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Fri, Feb 03, 2006, 19:03
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They think it's a pro wrestling match. I'm not sure who gave them that idea.
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| | | 248 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Fri, Feb 03, 2006, 19:49
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Probably 'cus your boys have been hanging out with a certain former Pacer on Skinnee J's squad... ;-)
Bummer about Nelson... I guess I was watching the Clips game on TV here in LA a few nights ago (vs. Orlando) and I got the impression from the announcers that they were "surprised" he wasn't on the court... sounded like maybe that was the first game he'd missed. Certainly didn't realize he'd been out for nearly two weeks now!
Personally, I'm waitin' on Joe Smith to get back in the Bucks lineup so I can toss another scrub back into the pool...
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| | | 249 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Sun, Feb 05, 2006, 18:15
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Looks like it's time to feed the scrub pond, Doug.
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| | | 250 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Mon, Feb 06, 2006, 15:25
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Indeed. Back goes the Big Red Dog...
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| | | 251 | Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Mon, Feb 06, 2006, 15:34
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[Shameless plug]
Fellow league members, please be advised that the Euros are still looking to offload large amounts of assists for help in any category that is non FG% related, but especially 3s and FT%.
Please also note that there is a possibility that FG% could be tanked, meaning that even the mighty KG is not safe if the right offer comes along.
I am happy to advise you that once again (for what seems like the 9th time this year alone!), we are doing the rounds looking for suitors for our assist laden squad. Please do not be shy in offering.
And so the ends this Party Political Broadcast from Team EuroSmeagol.
[/Shameless plug]
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| | | 252 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Mon, Feb 06, 2006, 21:39
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So let me get this straight then. You're looking for low-ball offers? :-p
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| | | 253 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Tue, Feb 07, 2006, 02:42
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LOL, you know it's sad when I thought of making a lowball offer of Rashard Lewis for KG... then decided that my team was better off with Rashard! ;-) I think the problem is that I think we have similar needs, though I might have a little flexibility...
Boykins was having another sub-par game for me through 3 quarters, but 8-for-8 FTs (combined with the 2-for-2 earlier) made up for it... so Euros, if you want to try to work something for Boykins, it wouldn't be a major trade... but I might be willing to give up his FTs for an AST improvement. He hits a 3 per game as well.
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| | | 254 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Tue, Feb 07, 2006, 19:27
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No low-balling for me. Kobe for KG straight up.
I am doing OK in the points category. I need FG% (I've creeped back up to the pack) and rebounds. KG will be fine for that. I'll lose a bit in FT% and 3s.
I'm only worried about the 3s.
Thanks Euros - Nice doing business with you again..
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| | | 255 | lionprideguy
Leader
ID: 906204
Wed, Feb 08, 2006, 02:23
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Wow, when Team EuroSmeagol says they want to trade, I guess it should be taken very seriously!
Definitely the time of the season when teams reach the point to begin considering some categories too far past salvaging and look for other opportunities for improvement. I obviously decided the FT% cat was too far gone, and figured embrace what you can't change (at this point in the season), so clank away! I guess I don't have to stress when Odom or Wallace gets fouled aymore. Free throws are obviously not part of the System.
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| | | 256 | Edgar
ID: 5803194
Wed, Feb 08, 2006, 03:52
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Some others might be talking and thinking about trades all season long without ever executing one......Not us.
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| | | 257 | Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Wed, Feb 08, 2006, 05:11
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You better believe we mean it! As Edgar says, it's time for action, not words...no point in executing major trades if they're made too late to make a real difference.
And may i say, what a huge relief it is not having to worry about the darn FG% category anymore!
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| | | 258 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Wed, Feb 08, 2006, 13:23
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Well, another trade in the books. Nice doing business with you Euros. It is the point in the season to assess where my team stands and whether to punt a category. My low rankings in 3s and assists persuaded me to sell one off to work on the other. I decided to sell 3s off for help in the assist area, so the Redd for JJ deal was a move in that direction. Even though I had made steady progress over the last month in 3s, I was still far enough behind that it was not feasible for me to gain more than 1 point there.
Overall, my team has been better since the first of the year. For the month of January my team ranked second based on per game averages which allowed me to move up a couple spots in the rankings. While 1st place may not be within reach, I still aim for one of the top 4 spots. At this point last season in AAA I was about middle of the pack and ended up winning it with a strong finish. I hope to do the same again, but it will be a tough road.
For those that would like help in 3s, I am still looking to deal. Radmonovic and Wesley are two players that have good 3s and FT% stats that could help a team or two, so send me an offer or drop a line. I always like to discuss possibilities, so don't be shy!!
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| | | 259 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Fri, Feb 10, 2006, 01:02
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Guru, can I get a ruling on whether Bonzi qualifies for our IR again? He apparently has reinjured his groin and is not practicing at this time per the Sacramento Bee. There's no exact timetable for his return, as I understand it. He came back after his extensive layoff and played 2 games and then re-injured it and has been out since (so far 3 games and 1 week). If so, I'd like dibs on Shaun Livingston.
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| | | 260 | Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Fri, Feb 10, 2006, 06:37
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Done and dusted double trade: KG for Kobe with Tosh, and Joe Johnson for Michael Redd with skineej.
The reasons for this trade are pretty obvious: forget about FG% and monumentally boost the 3s, points, and FT% categories. I would say that the FT% impact of these trades is going to be just massive. Although Joe and KG are good FT shooters, Kobe and Redd are even better from the line. But the biggest difference maker is the volume of FTs. We are giving up a combined 10 FT/game and getting back about 19 FT/game. The same could be said of points - it looks like we're getting a combined 15-20 ppg increase here. And 3's. If Kobe keeps up his current pace, we should gain a whole heap of points here. So basically, this is a huge volume deal for us in these categories, and we're hoping for exponential gains as we go for the 2nd half RIHC scoring title :)
I would also say that it's virtually certain we're not done trading yet. We still have copious amounts of assists and possibly steals to rid ourseleves of. Offers for Knight and Iggy will therefore be seriously considered, if the bait displays aptitude in some/all of the following categories: FT%, points, blocks and rebounds. PF or C eligibility would be a bonus also.
We might fall short of successfully defending our title, but you can bet your ass we're going to do everything we can to make it close. Even if it means totally rebuilding our team to do it!
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| | | 261 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Fri, Feb 10, 2006, 23:33
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Crap. The wife whisked me away for a surprise romantic weekend. Ok, that's pretty awesome. The crap part is meanwhile, Gilbert Arenas was sitting on my bench, having a monster night, 2 boards away from a trip-doub with 32 pts, 3 3's, 3 blocks, and 2 steals on 44% FG% and 100% FTs.
Oh well, at least the valentine's outfit was nice. :-)
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| | | 263 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Sat, Feb 11, 2006, 10:58
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Ok, forget dibs on Livingston. Have at him!
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| | | 264 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Feb 11, 2006, 11:42
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[259] - according to RotoWorld, Bonzi is out indefinitely. That qualifies.
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| | | 265 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Sat, Feb 11, 2006, 16:54
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Thank you. I was looking at the daily news on him, not the injury report, and they failed to mention that.
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| | | 266 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Sat, Feb 11, 2006, 19:59
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Taking One For The Team
submitted by an anonymous AP field reporter
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA -- Today, "The Slam Dougs" owner, Doug Taylor, dislocated his left patella in a hiking incident. "It's a preemptive strike for the guys", the dusty and tired owner said. "We all know every team is going to face injuries during the season... we lost Nene and Damon earlier this season... Shaq, Kiri, and Foster for stretches as well... so I figured I'd take it upon myself to take one for the team... I fully expect everyone currently on the squad to remain healthy for at least a month or two. They've got no excuses now!"
"Oh, and props to the LAFD crew who hitched me a ride halfway out of the canyon", he added. He'd managed to walk the first mile and a half back (with some help from his adventure racing teammates) before the crew arrived.
Later, the owner was spotted at a local pizzeria with fellow RIHC owner Rob Anderson. "The doc said I should get some rest... but the only rest I'm interested in is drinking the REST of my beer!" Rumor has it that no trades were discussed, but there was some discussion of college players, several of whom will be scouted at this evening's LMU vs. Pepperdine game.
Go Lions!
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| | | 267 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Sat, Feb 11, 2006, 23:02
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Maybe I'm getting this league confused with the Elimination Chamber, but I can't stop trading. Actually, I've been on a little roll lately with at least one trade completed in 3 of my 4 leagues in the last week. It's that time of year when I just get a little more into it as the All-star break nears. I have to position my team for the final run and decide what to focus on.
This trade continued the theme I began last week with dumping 3s to gain in other areas. This one should net me higher fg% and blocks. While Blount was a toss in, I hope he will serve a purpose if only as another big man that can fill in in case of injuries. Brand was the stud I was after, and although Jamison has performed well for me this season for his draft position, it was time to upgrade. Jamison was nearly dealt in the pre-season so he did an admirable job under the constant threat of a trade. With 3s being dumped, his purpose was less served and the Big E will be welcomed to the team with open arms.
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| | | 268 | lionprideguy
Leader
ID: 906204
Sun, Feb 12, 2006, 04:28
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Haha - thanks for the udpate, Doug. So does this mean you get to pick up another manager off the waiver/free agent list while you're on the inactive list?
Great to meet you this afternoon, sorry I missed you during the game and halftime reception. Meant to try and come up to see how things were going, but got caught up with some ticket and setup issues as we had some snags tonight in the game operations. Not the prettiest game overall, but we'll take the win. Thanks again for coming out and hope you had a good time on campus!
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| | | 269 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Feb 14, 2006, 10:43
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I've really taken some hits lately. The demotion of Jaric was not expected, and hurts a lot. Boozer's return could be helpful, although I'm already out of it in rebounds, and he'll need to score some points with a high FG% to help much.
If anyone is looking at my trading needs, I need to retain or improve my standing in 3s, FG%, FT%, assists, & steals. I can surrender rebounds and/or blocks, and maybe points (don't know whether I can recover there or not) if I can get help in other cats.
Some of the recent inquiries that I've received are after my 3 point shooters. That is not a category that I have to trade away.
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| | | 270 | hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Thu, Feb 16, 2006, 10:51
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look for Darko to take me to the promised land....
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| | | 271 | hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Thu, Feb 16, 2006, 10:53
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Dave
My son sends his condolences to you regarding UConns recent defeat at the hands of our hometown Villanova. He remembered UConn was "Mr Rotoguru's" team
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| | | 272 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Feb 16, 2006, 11:30
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No big deal. We haven't yet gotten to the part of the college season that really matters - at least not for top 10 teams.
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| | | 273 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Thu, Feb 16, 2006, 18:59
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Lil' trade just went down. Hello FG%, goodbye 3's.
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| | | 274 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Thu, Feb 16, 2006, 22:21
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I will say, as a precursor to the highly anticipated ASB season-to-this-point reflections, that this is an extremely competitive league, top to bottom. Looking at the per games played numbers in particular, there is an amazing amount of bunching, and any number of teams can still win this. There is still so much basketball to play, and I'm also wondering what the effect of the recent flurry of trading activity will be. Plus, there's no way to know if your solid contributor will become a fringe player in a trade, or vice-versa.
*reign in unbridled enthusiasm*
So, good luck all, and looking forward to hearing some more chatter in the near future.
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| | | 275 | hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Fri, Feb 17, 2006, 07:52
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as I recall in the first two seasons of this league there was not much suspense down the stretch
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| | | 277 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Fri, Feb 17, 2006, 15:56
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One last comment in this thread, since it's a reply to a post.... Re: 274... Jeff, "reign in unbridled enthusiasm"??? Did you hire departed Fed chief Alan Greenspan to help you craft your posts??? ;-)
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| | | 278 | Pacers Rule
Donor
ID: 910311210
Fri, Feb 17, 2006, 18:33
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No, actually Doug, I've found that if I just plagiarize, it's much more cost effective. Plus, he raised the fed rate just as soon as I moved into a variable rate mortgage. :-(
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| | | 279 | holt
ID: 273132014
Thu, Apr 20, 2006, 17:39
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just curious. I was looking at the final standings and I see 3 teams with more than 1008 gp. I thought 1008 was the max possible.
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| | | 280 | holt
ID: 273132014
Thu, Apr 20, 2006, 17:56
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oops, sorry for bumping this thread. the RIHC page links to it as the current discussion thread.
anyway, I answered my own question. apparently on the last day of the season you can double up on F, G, UTIL, and C. if you only have 1 game left, you can still start 2 guys and get credit for both.
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| | | 281 | youngroman
ID: 50818914
Thu, Apr 20, 2006, 18:00
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1008 is the theoretical maximum, 1012 is the practical maximum. imagine the situation where you have only 1 GP left at a position (G,F,C,Util) but both slots filled on any given day. Yahoo counts both games and not only one of them because they can't decide which of the 2 games should count.
using all 1012 games is ultimately maximizing GP and was really hard to achieve this year with that many DNP in the last week. I planned it again this year but failed. Guru succeeded.
hint: this strategy also works in RIBC, not only for games played but also for innings pitched.
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