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| Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Wed, Oct 11, 2006, 17:43
I will activate the draft momentarily. The clock will not start until Thursday morning, and any picks tonight are strictly optional. You can, however, begin to set up a queue if you expect timing conflicts tomorrow.
We will start with an 6 hour clock, but if too much clock is being used, we may have to shorten it during the draft (though I doubt that will be necessary). The draft clock will continue through weekends. There will be a clock moratorium each night from 11pm until 7am Eastern time. Picks can continue to be made during the moratorium period, but the clock will be paused. Those picking at the endpoints do not get a double clock. In addition, if anyone is already in arrears for a pick when their next pick is due, they do not necessarily get a second clock period. This will be subject to Commissioner discretion.
The draft is configured for only G, F, and C. Our league does have single slot requirements for PG, SG, PF, and SF, but I did not think it was helpful to include those distinctions in the draft grid, since many players would be eligible at multiple slots and their designation would often be arbitrary. If you draft someone who is eligible for both GF or FC, just pick the one that you think is the best fit for your team. Again, this is only for the purposes of displaying the draft results.
Our roster configuration will be as follows:
PG, SG, G, G
PF, SF, F, F
C, C
Util, Util
3 bench
2 DL
Yahoo position eligibility will be used throughout the season. You are advised to check the Yahoo league site prior to selecting any player to ensure that you know that player's position eligibility at the start of the season.
You do not need to draft a completely valid roster.
Following the draft, all undrafted players will be placed on waivers, and waiver priorities will start out in inverse draft order.
You may draft a player who is not currently listed at Yahoo. If you do so, you will be assigned a placeholder player at Yahoo until the drafted player is made available, at which time you must pick up that player as a free agent (without using a waiver priority). After the 15 rounds of the draft are completed, you can no longer claim an unlisted player.
This league will have a limit of 84 games per position. Since there are 2 slots for each of G, F, C, and U, those position slots will be subject to a combined limit of 168 games.
Here are my ground rules for selecting from a queue: If you have a queue and make it available, and it is your turn to pick, I will make your pick if I'm around. Therefore, do not make (or leave) your queue available if you do not want it used.
You can specify that only the top name on your queue is to be displayed, or that the entire queue is to be shown. If you make the entire queue visible, I'll first check for any emails that might provide additional instructions.
Regardless, be aware that your queue is not visible to me or to any other designated picker until it is your turn to pick.
Please refrain from mentioning any undrafted player in this thread. You can use this thread to alert others about your availability, to request volunteers to accept a queue, to raise questions about draft rules or mechanics, to solicit trade offers or announce trades, etc.
After two rounds have been completed, I will start a separate thread for draft rationales. We will then try to keep the rationale thread on a 2 round delay. |
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| | | 2 | hoopsklyce
ID: 41848256
Thu, Oct 12, 2006, 07:30
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anybody interested in swapping picks in first andsecond round - I have #2 overall infirst
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| | | 3 | hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Thu, Oct 12, 2006, 08:33
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my email is hoopsklyce@comcast.net
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| | | 4 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Thu, Oct 12, 2006, 11:35
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Did you already make a pick?
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| | | 5 | MikeV
SuperDude
ID: 25924115
Thu, Oct 12, 2006, 12:03
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MikeV(Dilligad) and MikeD have agreed to trade round 1,2 and 9 picks. His post here will serve to confirm.
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| | | 6 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Oct 12, 2006, 12:04
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I'll process the trade as soon as it is confirmed.
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| | | 7 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 41831612
Thu, Oct 12, 2006, 12:10
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Confirmed----thanks Mike V.
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| | | 8 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Oct 12, 2006, 12:11
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Processed.
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| | | 9 | Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Thu, Oct 12, 2006, 12:56
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Gettin' in our way again already, Mike D? Make sure you tell us who you want to take in 2 so we can snatch him away from you at the last moment! What am i talking about...you'll probably trade away that pick too ;)
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| | | 10 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 41831612
Thu, Oct 12, 2006, 12:59
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Hmmmm........that's a good idea.....lol! You "salvaged" that pick with some guy from Phoenix. He'll probably do ok. ;)
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| | | 11 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Thu, Oct 12, 2006, 13:01
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Damn...already behind the eight ball in the TM cat.
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| | | 12 | Florian
Sustainer
ID: 034815289
Thu, Oct 12, 2006, 14:25
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lionprideguy: Sent you an email with a trade offer.
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| | | 13 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Oct 12, 2006, 14:49
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BTW, if a trade is completed at any time and I don't happen to be around to process it immediately, you can always have the trading partner make the draft pick on your behalf and then I can trade the player rather than the pick.
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| | | 14 | Uptown Bomber @ work
ID: 45772916
Thu, Oct 12, 2006, 15:57
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Thanks to whoever made my pick.
I'll be able to check in again on the draft @ 9:30 pm. I've left my queue available for round 2 in case we go on a serious run of picks over the next few hours, but if my pick comes up a short time before that, I'd like to pick myself tonight.
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| | | 15 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Oct 12, 2006, 16:26
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I'm going to be out until about 7:30pm ET. If it's back to me by then, I can pick at that time (and/or process any trades if needed.)
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| | | 17 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 41831612
Thu, Oct 12, 2006, 16:35
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See, I knew KG was a steal at 3....lol
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| | | 18 | KnicksFan
ID: 411054411
Thu, Oct 12, 2006, 17:01
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Mike D, you better not copy any more of my AAA league picks or you'll end up with Greg Kite as your starting center (projected 6th round pick, btw).
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| | | 19 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Thu, Oct 12, 2006, 17:28
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You made that pick? I'm either doomed, or I've found that rare piece of harmony among all living things....the answers to all that is....the quickening has begun.
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| | | 21 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Thu, Oct 12, 2006, 22:33
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Smooth, Guru. Didn't notice the custom links...thanks for the upgrade. And yes, Mike D, a total coup!
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| | | 22 | Uptown Bombers
ID: 35616416
Fri, Oct 13, 2006, 00:59
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Florian and Guru,
Am presently setting up my queue for my lengthy absence through Sunday evening (6pm ish return). I might be able to check in sporadically tomorrow and Saturday. Unless I chime in with special instructions at some point, just feel free to select the highest remaining player in my queue. Thanks again.
Also, Guru, I have emailed you my rationales for rounds 1-2 so that you can paste them in when needed. Hope that is okay.
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| | | 23 | Footwedge
ID: 544546
Fri, Oct 13, 2006, 01:32
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I may need some help this weekend. My father-in-law just passed away and I'll be heading to the hills of Kentucky for several days. I'm thinking I'll need a pretty full list since I may not get back to a computer until Monday or Tuesday. I'll try to get a list together tomorrow before I leave.
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| | | 24 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Oct 13, 2006, 12:16
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Sorry to hear that, FW. I can certainly handle your queues while you're away.
To everyone: I'll be out from about 5:30pm (ET) until 11pm tonight. If you are depending on me to handle your queue, I won't be available to pick during that interval.
It is less than 6 hours, so your pick wouldn't be skipped. But the draft would stall. We're starting on a good pace, so I'm not worried about that - but it's always good etiquette to let others know when you are not going to be around, so that people don't need to keep checking in on a stuck draft.
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| | | 25 | Dilligad
SuperDude
ID: 25924115
Fri, Oct 13, 2006, 12:20
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I will be around all evening if you need to leave a queue.
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| | | 26 | Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Fri, Oct 13, 2006, 12:26
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On the topic of holding things up...
We won't be able to pick for a while yet due to Friday night (in Europe anyway) collusion issues. Apologies for holding things up, but we might go quite close to using our clock up. At least the day will still be relatively young across the pond!
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| | | 27 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Oct 13, 2006, 12:31
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Thanks for the heads up.
Friday night "collusion" issues? You've piqued my curiosity!
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| | | 28 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 41831612
Fri, Oct 13, 2006, 12:49
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Per his e-mail to me, he's having trouble hooking up with his partner in crime Edgar to agree on a pick.......apparently their priorities aren't in order, as we all know what comes first on Friday nights......
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| | | 29 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 41831612
Fri, Oct 13, 2006, 12:50
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BTW, didn't we add a rule that teams needed to be single manager only? I always feel outnumbered picking against them.
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| | | 30 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Oct 13, 2006, 13:23
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Ahhh... that collusion!
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| | | 31 | Edgar
Dude
ID: 00458944
Fri, Oct 13, 2006, 15:06
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Pick is decided, some cross eyed sleephead will come to join us apparently.
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| | | 32 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Oct 13, 2006, 15:10
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So what's the over/under line on how many games TMac will play this year?
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| | | 33 | Edgar
Dude
ID: 00458944
Fri, Oct 13, 2006, 15:18
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And to Mike D: that says the man who has quietly entered two teams in RIHC: Donahue or Vonahue, very obvious indeed. There obviously needs to be a rule that only one Mike at the time is allowed to participate in RIHC.
Now the Gollum and Smeagol have set their priorities: Gollum will go out and Smeagol is staying at home to work on his attitude.
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| | | 34 | Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Fri, Oct 13, 2006, 15:21
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Mike now you know how Dave R felt last year!
For TMac - 82 games, nothing surer. From the team that brought you Boris Diaw, we introduce the rejuvanted former top 6 pick Tracy McGrady ;)
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| | | 35 | Edgar
Dude
ID: 00458944
Fri, Oct 13, 2006, 15:30
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'This pick by the Euro's convinced me I was not done with this game yet' commented Tracy McGrady after waking up at 4 in the afternoon, to the Houston Chronicle. McGrady, in a further note, also spoke out his wish to be united with star center Ruben Boumtje Boumtje. 'Ruben is a force to be reckoned with'.
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| | | 36 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 41831612
Fri, Oct 13, 2006, 16:44
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Sheesh, the Euros finally pick, and this thread increases by 47 posts........c'mon Edgar, Mike V. and I have often been spotted on the same message board, so therefore we can't be the same person.
In breaking news, Mike V. has traded his first two draft picks to Mike D. for picks in the 14th and 15th rounds, along with a pepperoni pizza. I will confirm, er, Mike V. will confirm later.
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| | | 37 | MikeV
SuperDude
ID: 25924115
Fri, Oct 13, 2006, 17:35
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The same person? Ah, to be that young again. I have grandkids in college.
Still contemplating the trade. Will advise later.
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| | | 38 | lionprideguy
ID: 32357261
Sat, Oct 14, 2006, 04:48
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Wow, just got home and checked in online, and I hope I don't win the booby prize for the first first-round pick to get injured this year. Looks like a race between me and Guru wuth Wade and Pierce right now.
If anybody in the next few picks is indecisive and interested in swapping round 3/4 picks, send me an email Saturday morning. I have 3.11 and 4.02. I'm US West Coast time and probably won't be up until 10am (1pm EST) but I could be intersted in a trade in the next few picks and I'll check in as soon as I get up.
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| | | 41 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Sat, Oct 14, 2006, 14:53
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LPG, the Euros think they have a keeper claim to Dee-oww after they discovered him last season. This one is bound to get tied up in the courts.
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| | | 42 | lionprideguy
ID: 32357261
Sat, Oct 14, 2006, 20:23
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Hmm, I might be okay with that, if I can get credit for "discovering" Chris Paul at the end of round 5?
Diaw's jump from round 15 to round 3 is impressive. On the other side, I think I should be concerned as my two first picks from last year - #12 and #13 overall - were Jason Kidd and Brad Miller, which fell this year to #20 and #34 overall. Not a good indication of my drafting (or predictive) skills.
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| | | 43 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Sat, Oct 14, 2006, 21:38
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MikeD, e-mail sent. Let me know if you are interested.
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| | | 44 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Sat, Oct 14, 2006, 22:12
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Trade made with skinneej:
My 4th/5th/7th rounders for his. He's up.
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| | | 45 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Sat, Oct 14, 2006, 22:15
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confirmed.
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| | | 46 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Sat, Oct 14, 2006, 22:25
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Looks like Dave will not be back in for about another half hour, so I will check back in a little while after the picks are traded.
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| | | 47 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Oct 14, 2006, 23:11
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Trade processed.
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| | | 48 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 02:56
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Mike D, before you go make your pick, check your emails. Pretty please.
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| | | 49 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 08:50
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Trade made with RSF:
My new 4th/5th/7th rounders acquired from skinneej for his 4th/5th and 7th rounders. He's up.
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| | | 50 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 10:04
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I e-mailed RSF at 8:46am ET accepting the offer, but apparently he's still in his beauty sleep.
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| | | 51 | Florian
Sustainer
ID: 034815289
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 11:09
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I be interested in trading up for a late fourth or early fifth round pick (depending on who is picked over the next few picks and assuming the price is reasonable). I would have ideally like to have done this yesterday (trading down my fourth round pick as I think Marbury would have been around for a least a few more picks), but I was out and realized I wouldn't have internet access again until around midnight, so I had one of my friends make the pick for me via cell phone. Unfortunately I'll be out until about 2pm, but with RSF catching up on his beauty sleep that probably won't be too long after his pick.
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| | | 52 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 11:35
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Must be some hangover for RSF.........if he doesn't pick toward the end of the clock, I'll obviously pick, since he technically hasn't confirmed it on here. I smell a setup. ;)
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| | | 53 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 11:47
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Confirmed.
I'm west coast, man!
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| | | 54 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 11:53
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Mike D: "I emailed RSF at 8:46...accepting the offer"...
Hey, its only 8:52 PST, so thats like a lapse time of 6 minutes, thats not bad response time... ;)
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| | | 55 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 12:30
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Is this an east coast/west coast thing? Say, that's a good idea for a league......
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| | | 56 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 12:52
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I'm picking for RSF since the change hasn't been made for the draft picks (per post 13 of this thread).
I will now be away from the computer until about 5:30 pm ET. I have a 2 person queue, skinneej or Guru can select the players in my absence. If one or both are gone, I can pick when I get back. This is assuming it gets to RSF/my new picks by then.
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| | | 57 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 13:01
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One clarification on the trade, Mike D gets my 6th rounder, not my 7th rounder (yeah, all of one pick upward).
So the finalized deal is:
Mike D sends to RSF:
Picks 4.08, 5.05, 7.05
RSF sends to Mike D:
Picks 4.12, 5.01, 6.12
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| | | 58 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 14:17
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Trade processed.
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| | | 59 | Species
Leader
ID: 07724916
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 14:27
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All that for Kaman? Weak! ;-)
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| | | 60 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 14:39
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Hey, he's my identical twin. Now you see why I had to have all that beauty sleep...
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| | | 62 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 15:22
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There was only one player left in Mike D's queue, so we'll have to wait until he returns (at 5:30, per post 56)
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| | | 65 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 16:43
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As a reminder, please try to refrain from mentioning undrafted players when you submit your rationales. You can usually word them in such a way to make your points without mentioning undrafted players and without resorting to inserting "[undrafted]", which is probably worse than saying the name.
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| | | 66 | Florian
Sustainer
ID: 034815289
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 17:07
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Mike D : email sent
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| | | 67 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 18:45
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Just got in, a little later than expected. Will quickly digest the picks and make my next one.
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| | | 68 | Uptown Bombers
ID: 35616416
Sun, Oct 15, 2006, 23:59
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I've readjusted my queue for round 5. Feel free to use since I'll be heading off to sleep shortly.
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| | | 69 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 09:48
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Anyone drafting near the end of round 5 want to swap picks the next two rounds. I have 5.07 (Two picks from now) and 6.08 I'd like to swap. Drop me a line at the above e-mail or post here. Thanks.
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| | | 71 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 13:12
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It occurred to me that no one from Portland has been drafted yet, although I think every other NBA team is represented at least once by now. I ran a quick table on all five RIHC leagues that are drafting at Kafenatid, and sorted them by the earliest pick in any league:
CLE 1.01
LAL 1.02
MIN 1.02
MIA 1.03
PHO 1.03
WAS 1.04
DAL 1.05
LAC 1.06
BOS 1.09
NOR 1.09
PHI 1.09
SAS 1.09
HOU 1.10
TOR 1.10
SEA 1.11
UTA 1.11
NJN 2.01
ORL 2.02
DET 2.03
IND 2.05
DEN 2.06
ATL 2.10
MIL 2.11
SAC 2.12
CHA 3.01
CHI 3.06
GSW 3.08
MEM 3.11
NYK 4.02
POR 7.05
The earliest Jailblazer to be picked went in the mid-7th round. Protocol prevents me from disclosing his name. Looks like it will be tough to be a Blazers fan once again.
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| | | 72 | coldwater coyotes
ID: 43171811
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 13:48
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Skinneej and I have agreed to swap our 5th and 6th picks.
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| | | 73 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 13:49
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Coldwater and I have swapped our next two picks. He gets 5.07/6.08 and I get 5.09/6.04. Once confirmed and processed, he is on the clock.
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| | | 74 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:39
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Trade processed.
CC has been stealing players from me every even round. Now he gets to do it in an odd round too?
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| | | 75 | coldwater coyotes
ID: 43171811
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:42
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Guru...did you want Jamison?
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| | | 76 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:48
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Of course! :-(
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| | | 77 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:50
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Sorry, but with CC stealing my pick, I have to run to a 3:00 dentist appt. I'll be back around 4:00, and should be able to pick shortly after that. I just don't want to pick quickly now while I'm on tilt.
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| | | 78 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:52
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And I was hoping AJ would slide again this year. I think I got him 7th round last year, and had him pegged for the 6th round pick if he had slid again.
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| | | 79 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 14:53
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Just make sure you make your pick after you are loaded up on Novocain and nitrous oxide, ok.
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| | | 80 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 41831612
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 15:00
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Speaking from experience, RSF? ;)
I almost took AJ at 5.01.
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| | | 81 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 15:01
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I'm guessing the conversation goes like this:
Dentist: Mr. Hall why are you gritting your teeth? It's not as bad as you think.
Guru: Damn Coyotes stole my guy.
Dentist: Nurse, did you already give this guy the gas? I think he's hallucinating.
Nurse: No but he did mumble something about hurrying because he is "On the Clock."
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| | | 82 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 41831612
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 15:05
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"No, I believe he said he was in a state of shock."
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| | | 83 | coldwater coyotes
ID: 43171811
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 15:06
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M. Olarokandi is available
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| | | 84 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 16:39
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About 8 picks ago I had Jamison down as my top choice, but never really thought he would make it to me. Once he made it to one pick away, I got my hopes up - although I actually had Jamison, Butler, and [unnamed] ranked pretty tightly together. After stewing over it a bit during the morning delay, I decided that Butler was my second choice, but when I suddenly realized I was going to be late for my dentist appt, I decided to give myself an extra hour to rethink it.
CC, I hope I've been giving you some fits in the other direction. Over the years, we seem to have a history of stealing each others picks quite a bit! Even before the draft started, I knew that my position between you and Mike D was going to be a frustrating one. However, Mike D never seems to stay put.
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| | | 85 | hoopsklyce
Leader
ID: 59923214
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 16:55
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I was wondering if we could add technical fouls to the scoring system? Just seems like it would be fun - nothing related to me having Ron Artest and Rasheed Wallace
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| | | 86 | lionprideguy @work
Leader
ID: 906204
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 17:18
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Wow, I'm so lost at this point as to who is picking when. Umm, any of the next two guys on the clock want to swap 5/6 rounders, email me at the address here.
Sounds like a lot of people were hoping Jamison was going to be unnoticed or keep sliding for a while. This draft is always so tough that when a player I want actually does slide to me, I immediately start double-thinking it and wondering if I'm completely wrong about a guy or don't know something!
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| | | 87 | lionprideguy @work
Leader
ID: 906204
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 19:55
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Guru - I am going to have to duck away from the computer for about an hour. I have left a queue on Kafenatid if Florian has a chance to pick in the next hour before I get back. There are currently more players in the queue after the first two, but I'd ask right now to please only use it for my 5.11 pick and not the 6.02 even if it's not emptied yet. I'll be back to a computer by 6pm west coast time and left the names in there for my own thoughts, but would prefer it not be used yet while I mull the second players and their priority order a bit more.
Thanks!
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| | | 88 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 20:12
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Okily dokily.
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| | | 89 | Florian
ID: 810562010
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 20:33
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Lionprideguy - trade offer sent
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| | | 90 | lionprideguy
ID: 32357261
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 21:23
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Florian - thanks, email reply sent. I'll be away again for another 90 minutes, but my queue for 5.11 still applies if the pick comes due while I'm away.
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| | | 91 | Florian
Sustainer
ID: 034815289
Mon, Oct 16, 2006, 23:14
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I'm off to bed. I'll make my sixth round pick tomorrow.
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| | | 92 | lionprideguy
ID: 32357261
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 03:20
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FootWedge - sorry if I jumped the gun a little on posting my next rationales and putting in a placeholder for you. I'm going to be busy tomorrow morning and wanted to get it written up in the thread tonight, since it's not going to be possible again until later on Tuesday and didn't want to hold things up too much.
I'm going to leave a short queue for overnight, in case FootWedge is on the east coast and makes his 5.12 and 6.01 picks before I wake up, so that things might be able to move on without waiting for me to wake up.
Florian, you're killing me.
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| | | 93 | Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 11:09
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Is there any way in Kafenatid to see what the order of upcoming picks is, taking into account all the draft pick trades that have been made and processed? It's pretty tough trying to plan who you might need to take first when i can't even work out who's picking next.
Or maybe i'm just too easily confused :P Wouldn't be the first time!
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| | | 94 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 12:40
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I think this is the current order for the rest of round 6 and round 7 (CMIIW):
6.06 Mike D
6.07 Bombers
6.08 CC
6.09 Euros
6.10 Mike V
6.11 Klyce
6.12 Mike D
7.01 RSF
7.02 Klyce
7.03 Mike V
7.04 Euros
7.05 RSF
7.06 Bombers
7.07 skinneej
7.08 Guru
7.09 CC
7.10 Florian
7.11 lion
7.12 Footwedge
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| | | 95 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 15:09
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Mike D's trading has apparently broken the system. Although it correctly identifies him as owning pick 6.06, it won't let Mike or me pick - instead it's prompting for 6.04, and then refusing that pick because 6.04 has already been made.
Fred (KKB) has been notified, and hopefully it will be resolved shortly. In the meantime, Mike D's 6.06 pick will be Ricky Davis, so those next in line can refine their plans.
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| | | 96 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 15:11
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Oddly, though, this pick (6.06) was never traded. And pick 6.04, which was traded, never belonged to Mike D.
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| | | 97 | Uptown Bombers@work
ID: 377403010
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 15:29
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Should I name my pick for 6.07 in here?
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| | | 98 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 41831612
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 15:30
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I blame it all on Great One. Somehow, somewhere, he's trying to make a trade in this league.
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| | | 99 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 15:46
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I haven't heard back from KKB, so he must not be immediately available.
Feel free to post your picks here, rather than waiting for the system to be fixed.
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| | | 101 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 16:09
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I figured out how to hack the system and get it back on track!
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| | | 102 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 16:14
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I suspect that the same problem will occur at 6.12, when it is Mike D's pick again. Hopefully, KKB will have fixed it by then. If not, I now know how to hack it!
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| | | 103 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 16:17
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I say we just skip Mike the rest of the way. It would put us all on a level playing field then!
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| | | 104 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 41831612
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 16:22
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I was considering moving that pick..... ;)
I wanted Ricky at F, but I'm just glad he's on my team! Thanks Guru!
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| | | 105 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 16:25
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Another gift, huh? My last pick came down to Rip or Ricky. Either I should be glad you keep taking my leftovers, or question my decisions to begin with!
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| | | 106 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 16:25
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I moved him to F.
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| | | 107 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 41831612
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 16:27
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Wow, that was quick! I didn't even know you could change them after the fact. Thanks again!
skinneej, we always have the same queue....always have. I doubt that will ever change bro. Unless we both do really really bad.....
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| | | 108 | MikeV
SuperDude
ID: 25924115
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 16:30
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You can change the positions on anyone on your team. Click on your team then on the player.
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| | | 109 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 16:41
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Cool, I thought once they were in, they were in.
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| | | 110 | Uptown Bomber @ work
ID: 45772916
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 17:23
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My rationale for 4.07 is due, but is on my home PC. I will be able to post it some time tonight in case people want to move forward with those. Feel free.
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| | | 111 | Great One
ID: 539581613
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 17:27
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Sorry, I sent a trade offer to Mike V, or was it Mike D... or was it Mike VD... ?!!?!!
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| | | 113 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 18:19
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I'll be out for about 2 hours. If OTC goes haywire again, just use the feedback link at the bootom of the draft page to send KKB an error report.
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| | | 114 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 369421621
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 20:31
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I'm going to be uploading a new version that will hopefully fix the trade issue that's been going on. In testing, it's worked great, so we'll see how it works "in the wild."
I'll be around to keep an eye on things, so if things go crazy, I'll be on top of it.
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| | | 115 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 369421621
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 20:34
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FYI, it appears the new functionality has broken "finished" leagues. So, if you happen to be checking out a league you've finished, be aware that I'm fixing it.
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| | | 116 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 369421621
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 20:38
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Okay, got the "finished" leagues issue resolved.
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| | | 119 | aC
ID: 459171622
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 22:45
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Guru: I was following the draft, but now the link doesn't seem to
work?
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| | | 120 | Da Bomb
ID: 487112814
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 22:59
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Just go to kafenatid.net --> draft peek (on upper left side).
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| | | 122 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 23:18
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There seems to be a rotoguru1 server glitch causing problems with those routines tonight.
It will run OK from the rotoguru2 server, however.
http://rotoguru2.com/cgi-bin/kpeek.pl?110
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| | | 123 | KrazyKoalaBears
ID: 319501721
Tue, Oct 17, 2006, 23:51
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Well, looks like everything is functioning as it should. I'm off to catch some sleep. If something goes awry, I'll get on it first thing in the morning.
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| | | 125 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 18, 2006, 13:47
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The Euros must be either:
A. disagreeing on the next pick,
B. trying to work out a trade, or
C. sidetracked with other priorities.
C seems pretty unlikely, though. It's pretty early for any "collusion".
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| | | 126 | Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Wed, Oct 18, 2006, 13:59
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I could make a blinding pun out of that last post considering who we picked, but it would mean mentioning someone i'm not allowed to...so i won't :P
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| | | 128 | lionprideguy @work
Leader
ID: 906204
Wed, Oct 18, 2006, 20:47
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Hmm, unless I'm missing something, does this mean I've finally broken the seal on Portland for this draft? 7.11 for the first player, that's almost amazing.
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| | | 129 | Footwedge
ID: 544546
Wed, Oct 18, 2006, 21:00
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I was going to double Portland if you didn't. See if we start a trend.
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| | | 130 | lionprideguy @work
Leader
ID: 906204
Wed, Oct 18, 2006, 21:49
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I'm a little torn right now. Anybody interested in trading up and swapping 8/9 round picks, drop me an email in the next 15-20 minutes, and I'll pick at that time if there is no interest after that time.
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| | | 131 | lionprideguy @work
Leader
ID: 906204
Wed, Oct 18, 2006, 22:29
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Love that feeling when I hate the pick even as I'm making it. Oh well - things are starting to get less certain at this point anyway, here's to more craziness in NYC this year!
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| | | 136 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 09:42
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When you are posting a rationale that is in arrears, please post it in THIS thread. They are easier to notice here, and they don't temporarily break up the flow of the rationale thread.
It's not a big deal, but it does help, and it is what I asked for in the instructions. Most of you are doing it right, but some are not.
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| | | 138 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 13:49
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Dang it. I was hoping to snag Shaq at 9.01 for no other reason than to say Shaq was a 9th round pick.
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| | | 141 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 14:51
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Who is that imposter that made my pick? He is not the kind of player that I draft on my teams. I completely object. :)
Wow, this was probably the toughest pick I have had to make in years. I was begging someone to take him before it got to me. I passed him last round just knowing he would be gone and I would not have to worry about him. I even spent an extended lunch break mulling over what to do. Even as I was clicking the button I tried to stop it before it went through. The system even pause a little just to make me think it was going to deny my request. It would be nice to preload players into a separate queue that you never wanted to take. That way even if you're drunk or not thinking straight, you will never end up with them.
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| | | 142 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 41831612
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 14:57
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You shouldn't drink at work bro.
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| | | 143 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 15:32
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Sounds like it was a three martini lunch today...
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| | | 144 | Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 19:31
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Great pick skinneej! You totally killed us by robbing us of the Diesel, but nice work. It was agonising - i saw you posting your rationale and was waiting...and waiting...and waiting for you to make your pick. I'll talk about this a lot more in the rationale. But basically - damn you...damn you to hell :)
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| | | 145 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 19:59
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I did everything I could to talk myself out of the pick. I just couldn't get past getting that level of production, albeit probably for only 50-60 games, from an 8th rounder. Sure he kills your FT%, but if any team so far can compensate, I should be able to do it. Before the pick I had my team projected around 84% and it dropped down to around 78% with him added. Still pretty good, and if his attempts drop some this season per the trend, maybe the impact will be lessoned.
If it's any consolation, Chandler was my alternate if I chickened out on Shaq. I figured you would take whichever one was left and MikeV would have to go the PG route. I flirted with Cassell on my previous pick and considered him again, but wanted to grab a C here. Was not going to reach for one, but this seemed like a good spot to grab one of those two. I guess this could serve as part of my rationale, but I wrote out a long one before finally making the pick, so these are just coming attractions!
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| | | 146 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 20:01
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BTW, swish, I replied to your e-mail regarding the H2H keeper league that I have one spot left in. If you replied to my work account, fwd it to this e-mail as well. I hope to have the league filled tonight, but if you can't do it, no problem.
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| | | 147 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 20:39
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Coming attractions? LMAO!
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| | | 148 | Uptown Bombers
ID: 35616416
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 21:32
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OK, so like a spaz, I forgot that I couldn't self edit my post in the rationale thread since I made it from work fter I went ahead and posted my rationale because it was still in order.
What exactly would the board moderators like me to do? Sorry for the hassle.
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| | | 149 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 21:45
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No hassle. All taken care of.
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| | | 150 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 21:53
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Stand on your head, and trade me Brand. Seems like adequate punishment.
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| | | 151 | Uptown Bombers
ID: 35616416
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 22:23
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Hmmmm. I tried, but was unable to hit the send trade button while upside down, so I gave up on the punishment all together. ; )
On a side note, Endy Chavez just made a ridiculous play to keep the Mets alive.
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| | | 154 | lionprideguy @work
Leader
ID: 906204
Fri, Oct 20, 2006, 14:21
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Hey everybody - I have to duck out to a lunch meeting for the next 3 hours (including travel time) and will be away from the computer. I've left a 3-player queue for Guru's use to keep things moving. This way at least the 9.11 pick can be made to move things on to FootWedge, and possibly 10.02 as well. If my queue is busted by the 10.02 pick I'll get to it ASAP when I get back. I'd also be willing to trade it while I'm away to Uptown for Damon Stoudamire or to anybody else for a player they drafted in rounds 1-7. You know, just to help out and keep things moving.
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| | | 155 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 41831612
Fri, Oct 20, 2006, 14:27
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What a guy. ;)
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| | | 158 | Uptown Bombers
ID: 35616416
Fri, Oct 20, 2006, 21:27
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LOL at Guru's rationale for Nocioni. Wait until you see mine for the Granger pick that came two picks later. Keeping in line with posts 145 & 147 above, I just say this for now: I lost sleep over that pick! The rest of the story will have to wait.
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| | | 159 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Fri, Oct 20, 2006, 22:20
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I'm here and will pick soon.
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| | | 161 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Sat, Oct 21, 2006, 00:31
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Sorry, Uptown. I just checked in before heading off to bed and saw my turn was up. I didn't check to see what time your pick was made. I didn't want to hold up the rationales while I was off in dreamland. Now, I am off...
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| | | 164 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Oct 21, 2006, 09:26
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I set up a new rationale thread to use when we get to round 9.
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| | | 169 | Pacers Rule
ID: 58919227
Sun, Oct 22, 2006, 11:07
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Uptown:
Just read your draft rationale on Granger. Don't worry, he'll get the minutes. He made huge gains throughout the season last year - as a rook - and he's headed toward mini-marion status. Granger is a very versatile player who is coachable and hard-nosed on defense, as well as developing increasing confidence in his offense (with the whole team and coaching staff behind him). Indiana is short on outside shooting this year, and with J.O. and Harrington hogging the post, guess who's going to be putting up more threes from the corner?
He can play at the SF or PF and even SG in a pinch, and with all the nonsense and injuries going on with the Pacers, which so far shows no signs of diminishing this season, he looks to see upwards of 35 m/g. Since Granger is a "Jehovah's Witness" he's pretty unlikely to take weapons and drugs to strip clubs at 3 am, which should help to keep him on the floor while others spend time in the doghouse or the courtroom.
It's higly likely he'll start at SF, as Indiana looks to go small and uptempo, with a potent front court of J.O, Harrington & Granger at the 5,4, and 3 respectively. With Tinsley pushing the break, finally unshackled from Carlisle's over-controlling ways (he's promised- and also been told from on top), the new offensive approach can only help everyone's fantasy numbers.
I took him a little early by some projections in the AAA East draft (8.02) because I watched him play all last season and I could not bear the thought of sleeping too long on him and missing out this year. Considering the state of mind you were in when selecting this pick, I'd say you're going to come out a winner here. Thought you'd want to know.
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| | | 170 | Florian
Sustainer
ID: 034815289
Sun, Oct 22, 2006, 11:41
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Going to be out for about 3 hours. Not sure who I want to pick, so I'm not leaving a queue. Will make my pick then (though lionprideguy probably won't pick much before me as he's on the West Coast)
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| | | 171 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Sun, Oct 22, 2006, 12:38
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PR, seems like only a year ago you were in this league, posting the same type of stuff. ;)
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| | | 172 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Sun, Oct 22, 2006, 12:44
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Yeah, we'll see if I make it back next year. Feels like I've had a very weak draft this year. Last year I got the rotowire projections, and this year I did not. Last year, on Camby-power, until I made some lousy trades and got too busy to keep up the final month or two, I was looking to finish strong. Unfortunately, I ran out of time and energy, and a few other categories ;-)
If only I knew the other 29 teams like I know the Pacers....
I see you're still up to your tradin' ways. Sounds like you all are off to a great start for another great year of RIHC.
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| | | 173 | Uptown Bombers
Donor
ID: 35616416
Sun, Oct 22, 2006, 12:44
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Thanks Pacers Rule. Good to know someone else thinks he's primed to break out. I do hope you are right about the boost in three's. That would be especially useful. He did play well last night. I still think I would have rather gone with Chandler, but I'll survive if I am proven wrong.
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| | | 174 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Sun, Oct 22, 2006, 12:47
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From what I heard the Rotowire projections were pretty whack. I don't think you missed much.
A good trade never dies.
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| | | 175 | lionprideguy
ID: 32357261
Sun, Oct 22, 2006, 14:51
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Wow, almost overslept my pick this morning. Sorry about the delay for anybody waiting, we're back up and running again. I'll be gone for 6-7 hours but since I probably won't pick again until tomorrow night, I doubt this will make any difference.
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| | | 178 | Uptown Bombers
Donor
ID: 35616416
Sun, Oct 22, 2006, 23:38
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I'll be up for another hour or so in case my pick comes up. Otherwise, my queue will be set up for tomorrow. In regards to round 13, I will leave some guys in the queue, but probably not enough to cover the total number of picks. I simply don't have that many guys on my radar right now. If any players remain in the queue, feel free to use for round 13. If my queue runs out, I'll be able to check in around 3:30 pm or so.
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| | | 179 | Florian
ID: 32840258
Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 10:12
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Does anyone have a link to last years final RIHC standings? I'm mainly interested in the actual number of points, rebounds, assists, etc. accumulated by the various teams rather than any relative rankings.
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| | | 180 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 10:17
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Click on the RIHC icon on the blurb page.
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| | | 183 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 10:55
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What if I have no rationale for picking Pau??? :)
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| | | 185 | Florian
ID: 32840258
Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 12:27
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Thanks for the link Guru.
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| | | 188 | Uptown Bombers
Donor
ID: 35616416
Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 14:52
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Home early from work and will make my next pick when it is up.
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| | | 189 | coldwater coyotes
ID: 31554112
Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 14:54
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sorry... Ford should be 7.09
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| | | 193 | Uptown Bombers
Donor
ID: 35616416
Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 17:28
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I am suddenly unable to get into Kafenatid. Is this just me or are others having problems?
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| | | 194 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 17:34
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I was having trouble for a few minutes getting in, but seems to be back up now. It went down right after my McDyess pick. Omen??
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| | | 195 | Uptown Bombers
Donor
ID: 35616416
Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 17:36
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Nevermind, I am big in. I figured the system finally recognized my superior drafting advantage and attempted to even the playing field for the rest of you guys. ;-)
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| | | 196 | Uptown Bombers
Donor
ID: 35616416
Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 17:37
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Yeah skineej, I saw you post your rationale so figured you pick and then I couldn't get in. And as to the cause of the crash, I like my theory better.
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| | | 197 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 19:24
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Awesome----was out for a couple hours, popped back in before going out again, and I was on the clock. AND I was able to get in. Now THAT's mojo.
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| | | 198 | lionprideguy
ID: 32357261
Tue, Oct 24, 2006, 04:03
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I'm done for the night and since I'll probably still be asleep in the morning when the next picks are made, I've left a queue for overnight. I'll check in tomorrow morning when I wake up, but if FootWedge has already made his two picks go ahead and use the list to keep things going.
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| | | 201 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 24, 2006, 13:14
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Yee haw! I've snared the two headed monster for my second center slot: Nene and Primo!
Victory is mine! Resistance is futile!
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| | | 202 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Tue, Oct 24, 2006, 13:21
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Wow. You really did punt blocks. Those two combined might equal Earl Boykin's numbers.
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| | | 204 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 24, 2006, 13:29
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A punt that would make Ray Guy proud!
I got to a point when I could have gone after a shot blocker or two, potentially picked up 1-2 points in blocks, and butchered some of my other cats. I decided that if it's hopeless, don't pay up for any shot blockers.
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| | | 207 | Pacers Rule
ID: 17982315
Tue, Oct 24, 2006, 18:53
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Footwedge, if you're needing a little fodder for your 12.01 rationale, here's my contribution:
Tinsley has created a few smiles of his own with his recent play, racking up 17 assists against three turnovers in the last two preseason games, both victories.
"It's just a different approach," Tinsley said. "In the offseason, I dedicated myself to taking care of my body, hiring a chef, lifting weights and being focused and just more dedicated."
With the shift to a faster-paced offense, Tinsley's role has become even more critical because he has his hand on the throttle, and that's been evident in the preseason. In the two games he missed, the Pacers were outscored 35-28 on fast-break points and lost both. In the four games he played, they've outscored their opponents 84-33 and gone 3-1.
"Our season is really going to depend on how well we're able to keep up with Jamaal as a team and how well he runs the show," said Jermaine O'Neal. "He's a prime-time factor. The way he has approached the game this year, the way he's worked out, his mental approach, the leadership he's bringing as a point guard has been phenomenal. He's going to set the pace for us the entire year."
After missing nearly half of the regular-season games the last three seasons with a variety of injuries, Tinsley set two primary individual goals for 2006-07: to appear in at least 80 games and keep his turnovers down.
Sounds pretty good for a twelfth round pick. Now, he just has to play the games :-o
Pacers Daily Digest
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| | | 208 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Tue, Oct 24, 2006, 18:56
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He still looks fat.
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| | | 209 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Tue, Oct 24, 2006, 18:56
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Uh, Tinsley that is. ;)
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| | | 210 | Pacers Rule
ID: 17982315
Tue, Oct 24, 2006, 20:38
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yeah, babyfat on that babyface...
I read he's smiling a little this year. That's a good sign.
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| | | 212 | Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 12:13
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Woohoo, check those centers flying off the shelves in the last round - 5 in a row counting Mike D's pick!
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| | | 213 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 41831612
Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 12:24
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Beware the Damp.
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| | | 214 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 12:42
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I have entered the draft picks into Yahoo (except for the final 4 picks, which have yet to be selected). Please review your team to make sure I haven't goofed. Use this link: Yahoo draft results for RIHC
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| | | 215 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 12:44
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Instructions for your remaining rationales:
Unless yours happens to be the next one due in the rationale thread, please post your remaining rationales in THIS thread. I'll move them over in the proper sequence.
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| | | 216 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 12:49
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I will plan to activate the league at Yahoo tomorrow, probably around noon. At that point, all undrafted players should be on waivers. Initial waiver proprities will be in reverse draft order. Waivers should clear some time on Saturday.
If you have players who are already eligible for an injury slot, you may pick up an additional player via waivers or free agency without dropping a player. If none of your players are injury-eligible, then you must leave your 2 injury slots empty.
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| | | 217 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 12:50
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After the draft has completed, I will set up a separate thread for your comments on the overall draft.
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| | | 220 | lionprideguy @work
Leader
ID: 906204
Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 14:52
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And we're done! Thanks everybody - the draft is always one of the most fun parts of the year. Even if it sounds like Mike D is writing taglines for bad horror movies about killer fog.
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| | | 221 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 41831612
Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 14:59
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Muhahahahaha!
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| | | 226 | Uptown Bombers
Donor
ID: 35616416
Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 15:29
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re:214
My team looks good Guru.
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| | | 227 | lionprideguy @work
Leader
ID: 906204
Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 15:47
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re:214
Guru, my team doesn't look good, but it looks correct :) Thanks for your help!
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| | | 228 | coldwater coyotes
ID: 31554112
Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 17:05
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re 214
correct..tks
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| | | 236 | lionprideguy
ID: 32357261
Thu, Oct 26, 2006, 03:52
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Thanks for the recap thread, Guru. I won't be able to do this until Friday evening probably, but I won't forget.
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| | | 237 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Oct 26, 2006, 10:32
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Rationales still pending:
Footwedge:
11.12 Grant Hill
12.01 Jamaal Tinsley
13.12 Kenny Thomas
14.01 Bobby Jackson
15.12 Ruben Patterson
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| | | 238 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Oct 26, 2006, 12:00
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The league has been activated. You can find your players listed for 10/27 or later. Undrafted players will clear waivers after 2 days. (They are all listed as 10/29, so maybe 2.5 days)
We'll continue to use this thread for discussion until all of the missing rationales are collected. After that, I'll start a regular season discussion thread.
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