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Subject: Memorable Day in "the Chamber"

  Posted by: Mike D - Leader [041831612] Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 17:29
13 trades made (and pending) in one day. This on the heels of 2 in the last 2 days by one skinneej (through Ref and Farn).

Ref called it "Bloody Monday;" I call it "bloody good fun!"

Felt like I was in Trading Places, in the close-to-final scene where they were trading on Wall Street.

They'll be pushed tomorrow by our rules, opening the door for more. Deadline is Thursday. Tree is already calling for "Tuesday Trade Off," where everybody has to do at least one trade. I can't even tell who is in the Trades Made (TM) lead! Tomorrow will be clearer. I hope.
 
1skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 17:34 		I had finally taken the trade lead at 5 before this onslaught. Now I will have to wait to see where I am after the carnage clears. I made one more today, so that is 6 for me, but I think I am trailing GO now after he pulled 5 freakin trades off today. That will go down as well as a Chamber record. I have tried unsuccessfully to get DaveR in the mix, but he didn't want to swap two scrub Hawks players with me. Dangit.
 
2Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 17:41 		I am 3rd with 3 trades made...until TODAY!!!
 
3Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 17:50 		How about posting a screenshot of that page before pushing them all through tomorrow? Its possible, right?

I have 4 players I haven't traded from my entire team. I'd like to move all 4 to complete this incredible feat.

Luke Walton - likely back this week. Should put some good numbers up the rest of the way with all the other LAL injuries.
Richard Jefferson - dressed this weekend, working back into rotation this week and should be strong the rest of the way as well.
Jason Williams - really gonna benefit from DWade not playing for the remaining games. Has been pretty good since that happened.
Damien Wilkins - minutes way up due to injuries, Ray Allen has season ending surgery hovering over him, Wilkins would get a chance to do what he did a couple months ago (and thats great production across the board).
 
4GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 18:05 		Can't get to Yahoo from work, but GO emailed it to me.

Busy bunch of Beavers here.

Cliff
 
5Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 20:00 		I can't get a screen shot to post here. Maybe if we could link it to a website.......
 
6Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 20:00 		Team Notes
Trade: Pending trade between Jedi Mindtrick and wiggs - [ details ]
Trade: Pending trade between Fight without Honor and GO's Generation Next - [ details ]
Trade: Pending trade between GO's Generation Next and Farn's Stars - [ details ]
Trade: Pending trade between GO's Generation Next and Fight without Honor - [ details ]
Trade: Pending trade between Fight without Honor and GO's Generation Next - [ details ]
Trade: Pending trade between Extreme Basketball and Farn's Stars - [ details ]
Trade: Pending trade between Farn's Stars and wiggs - [ details ]
Trade: Pending trade between GO's Generation Next and wiggs - [ details ]
Trade: Pending trade between Extreme Basketball and Shifty1 - [ details ]
Trade: Pending trade between Extreme Basketball and Perm Dudes - [ details ]
Trade: Pending trade between Farn's Stars and Fight without Honor - [ details ]
Trade: Pending trade between Fight without Honor and Perm Dudes - [ details ]
Trade: Pending trade between Bob's Hardware Shaq and Fight without Honor - [ details ]
 
7Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 20:17 		somebody send me another trade. I've got a long uphill climb to catch GO.
 
8Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 21:22 		Who do you have on your freakin' team???

GO just turned down an offer.

I knew he was afraid to hit that accept button and make a move.......
 
9Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 23:18 		I have one guy left. Damien Wilkins. Who wants him?!
 
10Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 23:20 		To the team that sent me a trade, I'm considering. Let me just see who is on my team tomorrow when all the dust settles.
 
11Perm Dude
      ID: 2025358
      Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 23:45 		GO, I just tried to send you a trade offer, but I got an error message that could only come up in this league:

GO's Generation Next has the max pending trades allowed.

ROFL!
 
12Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 23:49 		Mike D, can we get an official time on when trades will be processed so we can be sitting there gripping our mouses firmly?
 
13Perm Dude
      ID: 2025358
      Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 23:50 		....must..resist..urge..to..make..masturbation..joke...
 
14Tree
      ID: 40251522
      Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 23:57 		but I think I am trailing GO now after he pulled 5 freakin trades off today.

i made 6. :o)

and then Sanforder's turned down two perfectly good trades i offered...damnit...
 
15Perm Dude
      ID: 2025358
      Mon, Mar 05, 2007, 23:58 		I would have made more, but I turned down one from GO, and three others were pulled within minutes of being offered.
 
16Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 07:07 		Any west coasters here? I was thinking 8:15am eastern.
 
17Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 09:31 		There were two more trades last night ebfore I went to bed. Not sure if there were anymore. So that's what 2 Trades on Sunday, 15 on Bloody Monday and two more that are pending that apparently weren't accepted before midnight.

Dave R is the only one to not get any. I could have made several more trades, but after all I'm in first place right now trying to hold on. Wish Mike D would get off my butt and give me some breathing room!!!

Team Name Moves Trades
Extreme Basketball 18 4
Perm Dudes 26 6
GO's Generation 28 9
Shifty1 16 2
Farn's Stars 6 5
Fight without Honor 11 6
Can't Beat the Refs 43 3
wiggs 1 3
Jedi Mindtrick 24 6
GoatLockers Bums 3 2
Bob's Hardware Shaq 7 2
SANFORDORS 10 0

Trades pending: GL 2, RSF (Shaq) 1, Ref 1

LOL Wiggs has more trades than moves and GL will have that too!
 
18Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 09:51 		just sent out a couple of feelers.

The dust settled this morning and I realized I have no SG. Looking to move a Center for a SG if anyone has interest.
 
19GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 09:53 		Headed for work shortly.
Won't be able to get back into yahoo until I get home

Cliff
 
20Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 09:54 		GL, sent you a trade actually if you have time.
 
21Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 09:58 		nice, thanks GL.

Do the players even bother flying to new cities for games or should they just suspend all games until the deadline and wait to see where everyone ends up?
 
22Tree
      ID: 29082512
      Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 10:01 		and i ain't done yet.

i will accept any reasonable offer!!!
 
23Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 10:43 		My head is spinning. I've had several more offers today. Fighting a bad cold and hard to concentrate at times, but let me see if I can make some of these work...

4 trades on the board today and counting...
 
24GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 12:13 		OK all,
I'm at work, so no joy now until I get home.

Cliff
 
25Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 12:40 		I've been trying to get dave r involved, but no dice.
 
26Perm Dude
      ID: 392269
      Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 12:48 		It might take a very good offer. I'll see what I can do.
 
27Perm Dude
      ID: 392269
      Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 13:11 		YES!

Took one for the league, I did. You can all thank me later.
 
28Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 13:18 		LMAO
 
29skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 13:45 		Dave, you still have a lot of work to do. Only two days left and you still have most of your original players. Ha!

I still have my first two picks (Yao and Allen) as well as Al Harrington left from my draft. I had several discussions involving Al, but I can't let him go for peanuts. 18 and 8 plus 1.6 3s since his trade to GS ain't shabby, all from a center eligible player no less. Come on, where are the KG and Marion deals for this guy? I want to get some of these sweet pickin's while they last.
 
30Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 13:54 		The Good, The Bad, The Skinnee... I traded my ENTIRE roster in less than 24 hours! whohoo!!
 
31Tree
      ID: 29082512
      Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 14:06 		i tried to swap for Allen, giving up his Doppleganger Kevin Martin, but alas, was not to be...
 
32skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 14:10 		You know there's been a lot of trades when you get offered a player that you traded a couple days ago, and its a different team sending you the offer! So that's three teams in three days for Kevin Martin, how many other teams will he be on?
 
33Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 15:07 		7 more trades on the board today...

Dangit Mike D, stop improving!!! ;)
 
34Tree
      ID: 29082512
      Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 15:33 		i'm still open for deals!!!!
 
35RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 15:41 		Damn...picked a hell of a day (night...morning...whatever...1am -> 5:30am) to spend in the ER with my wife. Fortunately she is OK, but damn...sure did miss out on some nice offers (now pulled) ;) Especially 2 or three from shifty I'd have done.

Catchup time!
 
36Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 15:57 		Sorry to hear that RSF, good to hear everything is ok. I'll send you something now so you don't feel left out.

Looking to move Amare for a stud that shoots some 3's...
 
37Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 16:52 		Tree, I accepted your offer, but the site says I can't because he's involved in another deal! LOL!!!
 
38Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 16:57 		RSF, hope all is ok. I am home sick today and took a nap. Had several deals offered. The old cliche of ya snooze ya lose sure fits here!
 
39Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 20:02 		Trade: Pending trade between Bob's Hardware Shaq and GoatLockers Bums - [ details ]
Trade: Pending trade between Can't Beat the Refs and GoatLockers Bums - [ details ]
Trade: Pending trade between Farn's Stars and GoatLockers Bums - [ details ]
Trade: Pending trade between GO's Generation Next and Perm Dudes - [ details ]
Trade: Pending trade between Extreme Basketball and Shifty1 - [ details ]
Trade: Pending trade between Perm Dudes and Fight without Honor - [ details ]
Trade: Pending trade between Perm Dudes and SANFORDORS - [ details ]
Trade: Pending trade between SANFORDORS and Bob's Hardware Shaq - [ details ]
Trade: Pending trade between Bob's Hardware Shaq and Fight without Honor - [ details ]
 
40Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 20:02 		Insanity. I love it.
 
41Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 20:03 		For whatever reason, THAT doesn't look that crazy in comparison to yesterday.
 
42GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 22:03 		Yeh, but I had to make up for not being around :)

Cliff
 
43Perm Dude
      ID: 392269
      Tue, Mar 06, 2007, 23:41 		Two more.

* Trade: Pending trade between Bob's Hardware Shaq and GoatLockers Bums - [ details ]
* Trade: Pending trade between Can't Beat the Refs and GoatLockers Bums - [ details ]
* Trade: Pending trade between Farn's Stars and GoatLockers Bums - [ details ]
* Trade: Pending trade between GO's Generation Next and Perm Dudes - [ details ]
* Trade: Pending trade between Extreme Basketball and Shifty1 - [ details ]
* Trade: Pending trade between Perm Dudes and Fight without Honor - [ details ]
* Trade: Pending trade between Perm Dudes and SANFORDORS - [ details ]
* Trade: Pending trade between SANFORDORS and Bob's Hardware Shaq - [ details ]
* Trade: Pending trade between Bob's Hardware Shaq and Fight without Honor - [ details ]
* Trade: Pending trade between Shifty1 and Perm Dudes - [ details ]
* Trade: Pending trade between SANFORDORS and Perm Dudes - [ details ]
 
44Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 09:58 		Mike D, what's the problem? I sent you a trade offer an hour ago..... :)
 
45Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 15:28 		Let it be known that I offered Mike D a trade and he

1. Took over 2hrs to respond to it.
2. Declined it
3. Didn't counter
4. Said he was too busy with work to trade


Is it too early to remove Mike D from next year's league? :)
 
46Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Wed, Mar 07, 2007, 18:48 		Bahahaha! Well Kleiza for Marion didn't deserve a counter (LMAO, j/k)
 
47Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Thu, Mar 08, 2007, 16:43 		Looks like it's going to be a real barn burner in the race for the TM title.........
 
48Perm Dude
      ID: 3621299
      Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 22:16 		So how did the final TM standings shake out?
 
49RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 22:22 		Click on Managers link. Tree with 13 won, IIRC.
 
50Tree
      ID: 5028107
      Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 08:10 		from 0 to 13 in 2 days???

damn, now THAT's impressive, if i do say so myself...
 
51Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 08:25 		It's called playing possum. Laying low. Duping the competition. Brilliant.
GM TM
1 Tree 13
2 Perm Dude 12
3 Great One 10
4 RSF 9
5 Farn 8
6 Mike D 7
7 Skinneej 7
8 Goatlocker 6
9 Shifty 5
10 Ref 5
11 wiggs 5
12 Dave R 3
 
52Perm Dude
      ID: 56225107
      Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 08:27 		Damn! And I bounced several trades at the end. A couple of more days and I'd have had the crown!
 
53Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 08:33 		Pretty impressive PD. Kudos to you, Tree, and Farn for bullying your way into the upper echelon of the standings. The trading depth of this league is impressive.
 
54Tree
      ID: 5028107
      Sat, Mar 10, 2007, 08:40 		i think it goes to show that if you really do sit down and study the teams, you can make trades pretty often.

there were maybe 1 or 2 where i was like "hmmm, i don't know about this," but for the most part, there was a lot of fairly even stevens...
 
55Perm Dude
      ID: 422221521
      Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 11:14 		Let's have another trading deadline...
 
56Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Mar 16, 2007, 13:40 		LOL, I was 3rd with 3 trades until that wild two days. If I wasn't vying for the championship, I could have made a lot more. I just couldn't move some guys even though there were fair offers coming in. The way it was I traded some assistsI shouldn't have, but it's all good.
 
57skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Wed, Apr 18, 2007, 16:03 		Well, another season of the Chamber is drawing nigh. After starting tradeapolooza, my team was able to find a way to be inches away on the last day. In fact, this is the first time in the last 3 seasons that I remember MikeD not having had it in the bag for the last week. See I told you guys last year that we did not have to let him win it every year. I'm sure he will still invite us all back even if he finishes 2nd or 3rd! :)

Well, tonight will surely be interesting as several key categories will change hands. MikeD has reached his limits and will be spectating - an unusual position to say the least. As it stands, MikeD will lose 1 pt in rebs tonight to Ref since he is only up by 3 and Ref has a full slate going. That alone puts MikeD and I in a tie for 1st. Ref would be behind by 1.5. However, Ref also is likely to gain .5 pts on my team since we are tied in FT% and he has stacked his team with high FT shooters for the last night. That would put MikeD at 78, me at 77.5 and Ref at 77. My team will gain .5 pts tonight in Asts since Tree has reached his limits and I have a full slate going. That now puts me and MikeD tied again at 78 and Ref at 77. Head hurting yet???

Now, the last category that is in play is blocks. RSF leads Ref in blks by 4 and leads my team by 11. With the guys going tonight, and using last week averages, Ref should only get 3.3 blks. So with RSF likley to gain more blks also, Ref may not be able to overtake him there. If he does, then Ref would gain one point and be in a three-way tie for 1st at 78. I do not see a tie-break scenario for Roto play, so I think we would all share 1st.

Now my team would gain 10 blocks using the last week averages, but I think it will be hard to catch either one. Too bad Camby is out tonight! Doh! The one other category that I could gain in is Rebs. I am 35 behind MikeD who is idle. My team should get 57 rebs based on last week averages, but it is hard to project who all will get significant minutes. I am sitting guys like Carmelo, Tony Parker and R. Hamilton plus Terry because of this.

Well, it has come down the last night and this one will go down to the wire. I'd like to say my team has a good shot at this, but I don't want to get too excited. I have another H2H league to worry about as well tonight where myself and the first place team are tied 4-4 and two cats are still very close. I will not sleep until the final whistle is blown!
 
58Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Wed, Apr 18, 2007, 16:20 		Thats awesome.

I tell ya, I don't know why I always do so bad in this league. I gotta revamp for next season and really try something different.
 
59Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Wed, Apr 18, 2007, 16:54 		Sick! Sick! Sick! I'm maxed out and helpless.......how can I sabotage it?!


;)
 
60skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Wed, Apr 18, 2007, 21:57 		Ha. The only way you could gain is if your pct categories were close to someone who still had guys playing. I did forget that the FG% category could be a factor as well. I am only .001 ahead of PD and Ref is .002 behind MikeD. At this point in the season, it is very hard to move more than 1/100th of a pct. If I were to drop a half a point or a full point there, I am dead I think.

It will probably be a little confusing tonight to figure out since StatTracker still shows points for teams that are maxed out in their totals. Well, the 10pm games will be starting soon, so I will take a break, watch Lost, and check back in an hour!
 
61Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Thu, Apr 19, 2007, 06:59 		And it's skinneej by.....a bunch! What an explosion!
 
62skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Thu, Apr 19, 2007, 10:45 		Wow. Didn't see that coming. In the end, I was able to gain .5 in FT%, .5 in ast, 1 in reb and 2 in blks on the last day. Getting the blocks was a huge surprise, but it definitely takes managing the roster the last week or two to make it happen. Who would have thought that sitting Anthony, Terry, Camby, Hamilton and Parker on the last day for the likes of Stromile, Diop and Amir Johnson would have been the difference maker. Those 3 combined for 11 blocks the final night. I have to give a serious shout out to Camby for his madness the last couple weeks, with 41 blocks over his last 9 games played. Wow!

Well, finally I have beaten the master at his own game. When the deals started flying off the table, I could sense the fear. At one point, I imagined MikeD at the office having all his calls held so he could figure out how to get in on the action. As always, he managed to pull a few big ones over as we all were gunning for the same players. It was like playing defense and offense at the same time. Although, I will have to sanction a few teams for their unilateral deals without getting three-way talks going. Believe me, the KG and Marion deals could have been a lot more tasty for those teams dealing them if the triggers were not as quick.

In looking back at a couple of my deals during the trading frenzy, I thought I might have just been swapping categories. At one point I thought I had an insurmountable lead in 3 cats (3s, stls and asts). I managed to hold onto the steals, but in the end, I gave a way a few too many 3s and assists and had to scramble at the end to recover. It is always hard to project just how big a lead you can sustain in a category when you begin trading them away. My big gains were in pts, rebs and blks from the trading. I was able to pass those ahead of me in those categories for the most part which allowed my team to go from a near 10 point deficit a little over a month ago to the lead just in the nick of time.

Well, it was fun and I look forward to more frenzied trading fun next season. Maybe we institute trading Tuesday next season, but I think it would have to wait until a month or two into the season where each team gets comfortable with what they have. I think part of what fueled the frenzy was that some teams had given up on winning and just wanted to get in on the fun. Others were facing public ridicule, so whatever gets the ball rolling is good with me!
 
63Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Apr 19, 2007, 12:03 		I had an absolut ehorrid draft, but was masterful at finding the diamonds on the wire. Went from worst to first in a couple weeks time and basiclaly stayed there for much of the season. Then I went over GPs. I made the same mistake here as I did in G20 and cut back too soon. Then every single trade I made backfired. Injuries just annhilated me. My studs were all hurt. But hey, that's the breaks. We all had injuries and that's a part of the game you have to deal with.

Grats skinneeej. Heck of a comeback!
 
64Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Thu, Apr 19, 2007, 16:51 		This was a 2 team race for a looooong time between Ref and I. When skinneej passed us for the first time a couple weeks ago, I went---what, is this a Yahoo error????? Then I looked closer and said, this is a 3 team race! skinneej was clearly in stealth mode, and in great form. Kudos for being in first at the end, which is when it counts.
 
65Tree
      ID: 42321915
      Thu, Apr 19, 2007, 17:04 		bah. all you people are dismissing my co-championship, earned by winning the much-coveted TM Championship.

and let me tell you! i will wear this title with pride - i will be a fighting champion! anytime, any place. doesn't matter if it's a hardwood floor, the blacktop, or some parquet crap. and if we gotta throw a cage around it to keep it real, then let's throw that cage around it! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

um. oh. wrong sport?
 
66Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Thu, Apr 19, 2007, 21:56 		Tree, you were an absolute force at the trading deadline, coming from literally nowhere to winning the TM title. Once you got rolling, it was insane how many deals you pulled in a short period of time.

But can you do it again? Was this a once in a lifetime effort? Can you show the trading consistency that has haunted RSF, GO, and others over the years? The type of attitude where even if you are in first place and destined to win the league, you feel a magical pull, a tingling desire to deal, with willful and wanton recklessness and abandon, so as to quench that thirst for respect in the dark underworld of traders of years past? Can you exemplify the motto that traders are born, made, and crowned? That no one remembers winners......only traders?

May you not rest on your TM title laurels.....for we will be coming......to reclaim.....the throne.
 
67Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Fri, Apr 20, 2007, 11:44 		He doesn't have it in him. Or he would have already traded me The Great Khali.
 
68Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Fri, Apr 20, 2007, 12:35 		I don't know, maybe he's loosening up. Earlier in the year I offered him A Jefferson and someone else for Billups. He got mad at me because I offered him someone I got off the WW for Billups. Turns out both of my guys were much better than Billups. I thought about thanking him for not trading me, but didn't want to upset him. That's ok, he got me back at the deadline by trading me guys who didn't do anything for guys that did. ;)
 
69Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Fri, Apr 20, 2007, 13:03 		I always hate that theory when people hold on to players for that reason... like not trading for someone off the waiver wire or some hidden gem you picked in the last round or whatever.

The usual "he was my 1st round pick" response... well if the guy isn't living up to it (i.e. a guy like Kirilenko) - and my "Al Jefferson" is blowing his doors off. Then step up, show some guts, make a freaking trade and try and make your team better.
 
70Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Tue, Oct 23, 2007, 20:41 		So it really looks like no Elimination Chamber this year?
 
71Perm Dude
      ID: 6952237
      Tue, Oct 23, 2007, 20:52 		I think Mike D is retiring the league.
 
72Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Oct 23, 2007, 20:57 		I can't believe a trading day like that and the following season Mike D has suspended operations. A sad day indeed.
 
73Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Tue, Oct 23, 2007, 20:59 		Say it isn't so, Mike D
 
74RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Tue, Oct 23, 2007, 21:00 		I think Mike D took the cash box and ran.
 
75Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Tue, Oct 23, 2007, 21:27 		All the way to K-mart.....

It was wild, crazy, and a blast for years.

The TM title was the most coveted title in all of fantasy sports. To those who knew what it was!
 
76Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Wed, Oct 24, 2007, 10:12 		Pleeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase !!!!!
 
77Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Oct 24, 2007, 10:26 		Can't we squeeze in a Sunday night draft? I promise to be well prepared and draft Charlie Ward as fast as possible.
 
78Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Wed, Oct 24, 2007, 10:35 		I'd be interested in pulling this off life support.
 
79Perm Dude
      ID: 17946246
      Wed, Oct 24, 2007, 10:38 		I can't think of a league in which who you draft is less important....

:)
 
80Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Oct 24, 2007, 10:47 		good point PD. Just make it an auto draft. People are never happy then and trades are far more likely.
 
81Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 08:19 		Maybe now with the RIHC draft complete, Mike D will sense the urge, the rush, and the desire to participate in a live draft.

Damn this was a fun league, seems a shame......
 
82Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 09:16 		Lets go live draft lets go!!!

Its the dead of February Mike - and nobody wants to trade in RIHC... just think about that.
 
83wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 09:22 		I would like to continue with this league as well.
 
84Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 13:47 		I think we could probably convince Mike if he could just participate and not have to worry about all the responsibility.

So - if thats the case I would offer to commish this. And if that fails, I will start a new league with the exact same rules and call it the GO-limination Chamber!

So regardless - there will be a league this year!!! Who is in? so far...

GO
Wiggs
Dave R
Farn
PD
 
85Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 13:53 		I set something up with league 143835 and pw = trade.
Live Draft Monday, 10/29 7:30

If we have any holes to fill, I'm gonna invite the Slizz man for he is trade happy and I predict he could win the trading title in his rookie season.
 
86Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 14:07 		I'm there
 
87Tree
      ID: 3533298
      Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 14:10 		although my schedule is absolutely packed, i think i have to be there to defend my TM title, no?
 
88Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 15:58 		I'll sign up but I can't make a draft. I'm coaching basketball and being on the west coast there is no time that will work for everyone else.

So I'll go with autodraft and hope for the best. Will certainly make trading easier to live with.
 
89Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 16:15 		I'm really trying to stay away. The Sunday night suggestion for a live draft wasn't bad though. Around 9:30pm. No way I can make the current date/time, and Monday nights are bad for me overall.
 
90Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 16:27 		Well unfortunately those picture perfect times aren't exactly available 4 days before the season starts! lol...

Tentatively changed to 5:45 PM EST on Sunday.
 
91Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 16:28 		Thats about as close (and late) as its gonna get.
 
92Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 17:03 		Tuesday night? After 9:15?
 
93skinneej
      ID: 496229
      Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 17:58 		I will reconsider as well. I am only doing one keeper league this year since it is weekly moves, but I am having some withdrawals at getting to do a redraft league. I am set up now at my work location for the next month, so I can try to be on for whatever time you guys set. Nights are better so I can be there live, but I will rank my players just in case.

Need Ref, RSF and a few others to make this league complete again. I will do my best to defend the secondary title (league winner)! :)
 
94Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 18:12 		UGH, 5:45 Sunday ?
 
95Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 18:17 		The season starts Tuesday night Mike.
 
96Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 18:22 		Anytime Friday.
Anytime Saturday.
Up til 3 PM Sunday.
Up til 5 PM Monday

Sure would suck if this Sunday won't work now, cause that Monday night I moved out of was the latest time available.

We could seriously just have everyone do a good, deep pre-rank and Autodraft it Monday night.
Everyone throw down some available times and quick - cause they keep disappearing.

I was really hoping for a live one though.
 
97Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 18:26 		Whats the harm of drafting Tues if Yahoo allows it?
 
98Perm Dude
      ID: 40946256
      Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 18:34 		Sure. Or a completely auto-draft, once we're in an have a chance to pre-rank players.
 
99Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 20:14 		"I will do my best to defend the secondary title (league winner)! :) "

Bahahaha!! Skinneej in da house!!!

I'm good Friday or Saturday night after 9:15.
 
100wiggs
      ID: 151271311
      Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 20:35 		I know Monday is bad for me as well. I will auto pick if need be. Really there is probably no good time for me right now. I will just pre rank and make alot of trades.
 
102Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 21:54 		I'm ok with the weekend. Otherwise because of time zone and committments I'm probably auto drafting, which is definately fine. I will like my team less and be willing to trade more.
 
103Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Thu, Oct 25, 2007, 21:56 		Is Sunday a bad time for everyone? Seems as though we could draft and watch the NFL at the same time.
 
104Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Fri, Oct 26, 2007, 08:09 		I just realized Saturday and Sunday are bad for me, unless it is later Sunday night. At this point trying to find a date convenient for all will be next to impossible. So

1) set the draft and let those how can't make it autodraft
2) set the time and have everyone autodraft
3) explore Tuesday even though the season starts that date. I see no downside to that option, if all are available

I think 2 or 3 make the most sense, personally
 
105Tree
      ID: 3533298
      Fri, Oct 26, 2007, 08:34 		i sort of like the "let everyone autodraft" idea, although that means i have to prep. lol
 
106Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Fri, Oct 26, 2007, 09:01 		Well lets take an informal vote here. Most popular wins.


1) set the draft and let those how can't make it autodraft (Sunday at 5:45)
2) set the time and have everyone autodraft (I'll set up the Autodraft for Monday Night so players will be available for Tuesday morning)
3) explore Tuesday even though the season starts that date. I see no downside to that option, if all are available
 
107Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Fri, Oct 26, 2007, 09:01 		I vote for Option #1
 
108wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Fri, Oct 26, 2007, 09:07 		3
 
109Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Fri, Oct 26, 2007, 09:09 		GO
Wiggs
Dave R
Farn
PD
Mike D
2SJ
Tree

who am I missing? Ref I know...
 
110Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Fri, Oct 26, 2007, 09:17 		3
 
111Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Fri, Oct 26, 2007, 09:20 		FYI latest time Tuesday is 5 PM.
So thats not really an option either. It would have to be Wednesday - which means we are missing the first 2 days and would start with Thursday games.

Anyone who for example starts the Spurs would miss 2 games to start.
 
112Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Fri, Oct 26, 2007, 09:39 		1
 
113Perm Dude
      ID: 5936267
      Fri, Oct 26, 2007, 09:40 		1
 
114Tree
      ID: 3533298
      Fri, Oct 26, 2007, 10:59 		1 on sunday
 
115Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Fri, Oct 26, 2007, 13:40 		alright, based on these and a few emailed responses, we are gonna do the Sunday 5:45 and anyone who can't make it, just get a good solid ranking and AutoDraft that sucker. Not like anyone won't be able to turn their roster over in this league! lol...
 
116Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Fri, Oct 26, 2007, 13:44 		I'm looking for Cliff (who I spoke with but obviously has other things going on), RSF, Ref and Shifty to check in here one way or the other.

GO
Wiggs
Dave R
Farn
PD
Mike D
2SJ
Tree

Shifty
RSF
Ref
Goatlocker

Is that everyone?
Make sure everyone signs up and pre-ranks ASAP as well. League 143835 and pw = trade
 
117Tree
      ID: 3533298
      Fri, Oct 26, 2007, 13:50 		i'm signed up and looking to move my third and fourth round picks for a second and 12th round pick.
 
118 Perm Dude
      ID: 5936267
      Fri, Oct 26, 2007, 13:51 		Is the Yahoo invite out? I didn't receive anything.
 
119Great One
      Sustainer
      ID: 053272014
      Fri, Oct 26, 2007, 13:54 		wasn't really an email invite - just type in the league ID after the the "create another team" section.
 
120GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Fri, Oct 26, 2007, 20:20 		OK, I'm signed up.
That spinning neck breaker almost took my head off.

Cliff
 
121 Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Sat, Oct 27, 2007, 12:11 		Still got 3 holes to fill here... (I think Mike D has yet to sign up).

Ref and RFS? need you guys to check in so I can fill your spots if you aren't interested in returning this year.
And anyone else reading this who is not a member and is interested -- email me if you want to be put on the waiting list to join.

Draft is Sunday at 5:45 FYI (with a few of us autodrafting).
 
122RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Sat, Oct 27, 2007, 12:21 		I've gotta pass. Of course, I say that every year.

Yeah, this would be my only Yahoo league, so, No.

Crap. Crap. Crap.
 
123Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Sat, Oct 27, 2007, 12:23 		I'm already in GO. I am "The Trade King" (muhahahaha). With RSF out, it makes that TM title even more wide open.
 
124Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Sat, Oct 27, 2007, 12:24 		come on RSF. We need all the regulars.

Are you really going to be able to sleep at night without thinking about how you need to be trading your entire roster by season's end.
 
125Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Sat, Oct 27, 2007, 12:25 		Stick THAT in your veins brutha.
 
126Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Sat, Oct 27, 2007, 12:27 		Currently missing from last season:

wiggs
RSF
Ref
 
127RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Sat, Oct 27, 2007, 13:01 		Trading is a disease and I am sick...
 
128GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Sat, Oct 27, 2007, 13:38 		You know, there is a 12 step program for that.
Fantasy trades Anonymous, but, who needs that......
MUHAHAHAHAHA

Cliff
 
129Perm Dude
      ID: 5936267
      Sat, Oct 27, 2007, 13:43 		I say if wiggs, RSF or Ref don't show, we trade them for other managers.
 
130Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Sat, Oct 27, 2007, 13:49 		Not worried about Wiggs - he commited, just hasn't signed up.

Just awaiting word from Ref.
 
131Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Sat, Oct 27, 2007, 13:53 		wiggs will sign up. (I'll text him now)
 
132Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Sat, Oct 27, 2007, 14:06 		wiggs will sign up tonight or tomorrow morning. He is still computer-less so thats why he hasn't done so yet.
 
133Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, Oct 27, 2007, 14:16 		I think I'm going to pass. Nothing will ever live up to last year and I don't want to diminish that memory! ;) I don't have the time to really draft to be honest.
 
134wiggs
      Sustainer
      ID: 04991311
      Sat, Oct 27, 2007, 15:11 		GO, you were worried about me? You never have to worry about me not signing up for a league :)
 
135Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Sat, Oct 27, 2007, 16:47 		I'm not sure if I could make the draft ... but if you need a last minute fill-in, I'd be interested.
 
136Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Sat, Oct 27, 2007, 17:05 		would it be possible for everyone to put their Rotoguru name in their team name, at least for the draft? Makes it easier to set up trades via email and to talk trash during the draft.
 
137Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Sat, Oct 27, 2007, 17:39 		I've gotten a couple emails, also mentioned to Slizz the other day since he's a trading fiend... I will wait til tomorrow morning and see how many more nominations roll in then make a decision.

Obviously being able to make the draft will offer a leg up to anyone interested.
 
138Great One
      ID: 201155199
      Sun, Oct 28, 2007, 12:35 		Tosh will be taking Ref's spot as he was the first to confirm after I sent out a few "official" invites.

Welcome to the club. I told him he should try and maintain a rate of one trade per week if he wants any chance at the TMC Belt (Trades Made Championship).
 
139Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Sun, Oct 28, 2007, 12:38 		I learned my lesson last year. If you want to win the title you have to make a few trades during the year and then still put up the big number on Bloody Monday. I tried to make a strong finish but my poor performance all year hurt me.
 
140Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Sun, Oct 28, 2007, 13:04 		Thanks for the invite guys. I look forward to adding a new trophy to my shelf.