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Subject: The Wolf Pack--twolves GMD team

  Posted by: twolves - Dude [811161317] Sun, Nov 18, 2007, 23:03
Welcome--Gmoney, Qwerty123, Dunkenstein, Farn, qwert, reebbertxx, and threespleens.

I am looking forward to a great season and being able to dethrone Soulman's team. Please send me or post your email address if you have not already.

 
1Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Sun, Nov 18, 2007, 23:05 		Hello to everyone I haven't been chatting with already. Being paired with the Dunker again brings back good memories. Let's hope we can rekindle some of the magic of season's past.


My team is off to a fair start (if you are only counting today). Up 600k today.
 
2twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Sun, Nov 18, 2007, 23:16 		Farn, I hear you are good at stats--can you manipulate them in our favor??

I took the Brewer hit today--I knew it would be large but with the Paul injury thought might be a little smaller than it was.
 
3qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Sun, Nov 18, 2007, 23:39 		let's do this guys!

made a move I wasn't crazy about today, brewer to sean williams. i do like williams' potential, but i do not like his schedule at all.

sort of wishing i had held.
 
4 reebbertxx
      Sustainer
      ID: 561124720
      Sun, Nov 18, 2007, 23:45 		twolves thanks for drafting me and hey to all my new teamates.

Paul going down screwed up my plans this week so I'm stuck holding Brewer long term, which hopefully is a good thing. I have 13mil+ in the bank so I can move anyone to Lebron but he has to be a forward. Leaning towards moving AK after tomorrow and triangling back in next week depending on needs at the time. Any thoughts?
 
6threespleens
      Leader
      ID: 00795541
      Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 03:48 		i just got back from 4 days internet-less in manila. tough to see the paul news. will read up and get my team back on track asap
 
7Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 08:00 		Gmoney
Qwerty123
Dunkenstein
Farn
Qwert
rebbeertxx
threespleens
twolves
 
8Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 08:00 		sorry it didn't go up earlier. Totally forgot about those links.

Let me know if I mislinked anyone.
 
9qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 10:13 		Thanks Farn!

Looking ahead, when is everyone looking to move out of the orlando players?

I would like to ideally hold Howard until 12/4, but I'm not sure he can last that long with his high ownership.

Turkoglu is another concern. I have him at guard with no flex at the moment.

No rush on either...just trying to make a plan and can't seem to come up with any good exit strategies.
 
10G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 11:01 		Greetings everyone.

Looking forward to a fun season. Unfortunately for posting I have limited Guru site access during the day. However, email is an option as is late night posting since I seem to always be up watching the late game on TV. So if anyone else is an owl in the group let me know.

Qwert, I think Howard is hold at least through this week as long as he keeps posting 40+ games. There are always some who jump early but when you jump early from a guy putting up 40+ you pay the price. Now if Howard put up a 20 point night or a couple 30 point nights it may change things causing people to hit the panic button.

Turkeyglue actually made money last night. I think he one of those guys you might be able to hold on to as he will gain a little some nights and lose a little other nights. He most likely won't be a high gainer or loser on any night and you need a few of the players you can hold while you deal with the more popular issues. Of course if he is your only fire that is different story but if he is your only fire you don't need my advice either because most of my team is a fire right now.

I will try to check back in later today. I only have one trade left and it will be used on someone tomorrow. I am just not sure who goes or who is coming. Tonights games may shed some light.

G
 
12twolves
      ID: 2991339
      Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 13:12 		Thanks Guru.
 
13G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 21:01 		Kiri made the Yahoo line-up so hopefully he is good to go tonight.
 
14G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 21:12 		12:00 Jump ball - J. Magloire vs. M. Okur: Tip to A. Kirilenko
 
15qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 21:14 		good to hear. i would like to see a good game for him, as i plan to turn turkey into him at some point.

interested to see how sean williams turns out in this one.

 
16G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 21:17 		Yeah, I am hoping for a good game because I plan to hold him.

S. Williams will have his hands full tonight with Okur, Boozer and Kiri. That is a pretty good defensive group down low.
 
17 twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 21:17 		Threespleens could you send me your email address. I think I have all the others.

I am hoping Kiri plays well tonight. Any thoughts on holding him or Brewer after tonight??

I think G is right about Turkeyglue as one of those flex players who is holdable until another option or right opportunity comes along to trade.

AS far as Howard goes--I think one has to plan to have a trade ready in the next week or two for the right opportunity but he has been a stud to date.
 
18qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 21:20 		I think holding either of them is a solid move. I plan to get them both soon and any losses will be more than recouped. A good game from brewer would make it easier.
 
19G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 21:27 		Brewer is certainly trying to make an early statement to be held. 25+ and you are good to hold. I would only sell if he put up another single digit and he almost has that covered in the first.

Howard just keeps producing.
 
20G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 21:29 		Yeah, Brewer just said you can keep him...
 
21Qwerty123
      Sustainer
      ID: 349431211
      Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 22:04 		Thanks for making me a part of the team, Twolves. I'm looking forward to teaming up with everyone, especially qwert. Maybe we can find a way to spot each other a few TSND here or there without anyone knowing.

I'm out of trades for the rest of the week, but I'll be looking for a way into LeBron next week somehow.
 
22reebbertxx
      Leader
      ID: 561124720
      Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 22:10 		I have the wrong S. Williams and will likely move him into Lebron tonight instead of AK. I would prefer to move Antoine Wright, but have no position flex.

As far as Howard goes I see no point in moving before 12/4. He works nicely into any of the Suns for a quick 4 in 5 or longer.
 
23qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 22:20 		there's a right s. williams?

agreed with howard...there are some decent hawk options and an alright transition from DHo into them.

 
24 threespleens@work
      ID: 4291032
      Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 22:53 		ouch. didn't realize my gmd team was my team with only 1 trade left. i went with the safe paul > lebron route because i don't want to miss his game tomorrow along with the points. relieved i had the money for the 1-for-1 swap.
 
25qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 22:57 		21,

sounds good Qwerty123...i'm better at borrowing money than lending it though.

RJ...you're gone in 4 mins.
 
26G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 23:33 		I would still hold Brewer at this point but this Brewer situation is amazing...

Can you believe people sold Brewer tonight, on a night he played, after they could have sold him last night. What were these people thinking??

As a whole, the price movers were very interesting tonight.

Brewer -110K and still the highest owned
Kirilenko - same team/schedule was +30K

Salmons and Martin -110K
Udrih - same team/schedule was +140K

Note for next year, early sellers of Brewer to Udrih or Moon have made over 1 million and with both players going tomorrow while UT enters the gap in their schedule, this number could approach $1.5 million pending tomorrows swing. That is insane.
 
27twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Mon, Nov 19, 2007, 23:44 		I have all the email addresses and send out an intro email. If anyone does not get it let me know.

That is amazing about Brewer--however, it is one good reason to have a few trades stored up--money can be made late in the week. That said, I am still holding Brewer at present and on my one team with Kirilenko may hold him,too.
 
28reebbertxx
      Leader
      ID: 561124720
      Tue, Nov 20, 2007, 00:08 		G> I was on the fence about Brewer and had a nice plan to sell him, but I have no problem holding at this point. He will make back all of his losses and then some. I held Haywood through his losses and my rv is fine. As you all know there will be plenty of places to use that trade for rv and points later on.

Short term the only player on my team that needs to go soon is Wright because of weak schedule and weak production. Long term Haywood to Kaman on 12/02. Howard stays until he at least has a game below 40.

Twolves, got the E-mail and I guess we will have to decide whether to communicte through e-mail,messanger, or these forums. I am ok with any format, though I prefer the forums.

Good luck all and lets win this thing.
 
29qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Tue, Nov 20, 2007, 00:40 		i really do wish i had held brewer. it's not the trades vs. the money that i regret, it's that i picked up a player i am less than thrilled with (sean williams), which usually means more trades down the line.

 
30Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Nov 20, 2007, 01:12 		with my one remaining trade I'm still going to Lebron. Unless I get some kind of info saying Harrington has been decapitated I'll be keeping him and moving Aldridge to get to Lebron. Aldridge laying the egg tonight might cause some trading on a very light trading day tomorrow so its not a bad idea to move along from him.

I'll get back into Brewer on Thursday. If all goes well Brewer will have dropped far enough so that I can move Armstrong to Brewer. If not I'll move from the other Shawne Williams to Brewer.
 
33twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Tue, Nov 20, 2007, 19:24 		It appears Farn and I are the only ones with trades.

I agree with getting Lebron and that was my move too. Jefferson to Lebron. I think Jefferson has been underperforming despite Vince absence and those that have trades will likely trade Jefferson today I suspect.

 
34qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Tue, Nov 20, 2007, 19:44 		I actually did have a trade, but I guess I moved RJ before Farn ran the stats. I actually wonder if he has been underperforming Because of Vince's absence and not despite it.

Anyway, as I said many times to Rubalamp in the trading thread, I think RJ has to go from all rosters ASAP.
 
35twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Tue, Nov 20, 2007, 19:57 		qwert, you may be right on Jefferson needing Vince.

I agree that he could be the big loser tonight.
 
36G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Tue, Nov 20, 2007, 21:33 		Yeah I used my one trade on RJ --> Jackson because I was just short of LBJ so my roster is off too.
 
37G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Tue, Nov 20, 2007, 21:36 		Wow we have zero, I repeat zero Bynum's. Curse you K Brown/B Wallace.
 
38qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Tue, Nov 20, 2007, 21:38 		oh well...hopefully tonight was bynum's night.

GMD doesn't start til tomorrow, right?

of course sh. williams has decided to perform, now that i planned around trading him.

 
39G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Tue, Nov 20, 2007, 21:41 		Since I can't post more than one thought in a thread I will just keep going. It looks like I am the only one that didn't manage to squeeze Harrington in. It might have cost me a $1 mil but it might save me a couple trades. He has not be good since S jax returned and must be watched very closely.
 
40qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Tue, Nov 20, 2007, 21:42 		very very closely.

ie. another bad game tomorrow and he becomes AK, instead of Turkey.
 
41twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Tue, Nov 20, 2007, 21:46 		It sure does not look like the H's night--Harrington and Haywood--ugh--as I have them on all my personal teams--looks like they may be on short leashes this week. Good thing trades renew tomorrow.
 
42twolves
      ID: 14162121
      Tue, Nov 20, 2007, 23:06 		From reading the Yahoo recap of the Washington game it sounds like Haywood sprained an ankle partly accounting for his short minutes. It looks like a very short leash or trade.
 
43G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Tue, Nov 20, 2007, 23:23 		Oh boy....if the triple H centers (Howard, Haywood and Harrington) all have to go soon, that spells a lot of trouble (and trades).

This will have a major impact on my trade plans for the week if Haywood has to go and it may prevent me from getting Lebron or keeping Bogans. I guess at this point I may not make any trades tomorrow unless someone is injured for sure. I know that will never happen but...
 
45qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Wed, Nov 21, 2007, 11:39 		we've got a lot of work to do with harrington and haywood...and the trade i used on brewer is looking all the more precious now.

I have the flex to move Harrington for anyone under 9 million. Leaning toward Kaman..or waiting til tomorrow and getting AK if Harrington plays.

GMD starts today, so let's make some solid moves and get off to a good start.

no price movers tomorrow, so at least a day to sit and reflect.
 
46twolves
      ID: 2991339
      Wed, Nov 21, 2007, 12:57 		It does not sound like Harrington will play tonight but he is not injured. If one could survive tonight's RV dump and hope harrington starts putting up much better numbers--it might save a trade. AK and Kamen were a couple of my thoughts for Harrington later this week but it may have to be earlier.

The Haywood and Udrih injuries could really makes things interesting for the week.
 
47qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Wed, Nov 21, 2007, 13:07 		'interesting' is one way to put it
 
48G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Wed, Nov 21, 2007, 19:01 		Hey guys,

With Haywood and Arenas out, I am dumping Haywood and moving Udrih to Daniels.

I will keep three guys who play 3 games in the next three playing nights - Gay, Turkeyglue, Bogans and then figure out where to go from there on Sunday.

There is always something isn't there?

G
 
49qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Thu, Nov 22, 2007, 00:10 		G, nice work with Daniels. He is rock solid with big game potential.

Dunk, I'm glad you were short of being able to do Lebron and Sean Williams...I would have felt bad about passing on my problems.

My only planned moves at this point will be udrih for brewer.

I have lost my path into AK for now, but I'm sure something will pop up.

Anyway, hopefully you guys did better than I did tonight and we got off to a decent GMD start.
 
50G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Thu, Nov 22, 2007, 00:13 		Thanks qwert.

I now have two trades left and huge temptation to use them both by Saturday. I may have to suck up missing money gains on Brewer Friday and take the points that Turkey and Gay provide with their extra game and allowing me to hold my trades a little longer.

 
51twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Thu, Nov 22, 2007, 00:17 		I got back from twolves game and Lebron looked like a "must have" tonight. Nobody else stood out other than maybe Al Jefferson.

I dumped Haywood and Harrington tonight but was under time pressure and missed the Daniels trade idea and went for Kaman and Lou Williams--i am already thinking that was a mistake. I just decided I need to raise some cash for a Bogans trade in the future.

qwert--I can sucked into S. Williams with the time pressure on a couple of my other teams--ugh. Hopefully will be better but I see he is coming off the bench again which does not bode well for him.

 
52G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Thu, Nov 22, 2007, 00:22 		twolves,

Every decent player that plays the wolves looks like a "must have". :)

That was an interesting game to watch. A. Jefferson is going to be a good block to build around for the future.
 
53twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Thu, Nov 22, 2007, 00:30 		Well the next home game for the twolves probably means Josh Smith or JJ are the next "must have" players--just about the time to consider buying Atlanta.
 
54G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Thu, Nov 22, 2007, 09:54 		Happy Turkey Day Team.

I won't be around much today to talk hoops but with no price changes tonight, there will be plenty of time tomorrow to look at all the options.
 
56qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Thu, Nov 22, 2007, 10:43 		I see we all picked up Kaman yesterday...that can't hurt the GMD stats.

Happy TG guys!
 
57Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Thu, Nov 22, 2007, 10:49 		Nice to see everyone moving seemingly as one when picking up Kaman.

Of course I was the only buyer on the Sean Williams express yesterday. And I have no doubt I will pay dearly.

He'll get another game before I press the panic button but I am already looking for a replacement.

Happy Turkey Day all.
 
58qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Thu, Nov 22, 2007, 10:55 		let me know where you're going with him Farn.

I could go to SJax, but I think the train has left the station and I'm still not convinced he will consistently perform.

I have some cash and will consider moving him for M.Williams on saturday if he stinks tomorrow night.
 
59Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Thu, Nov 22, 2007, 11:02 		Well, I'm moving Armstrong to Brewer before tomorrow night. That will leave me with $3.58 approx to move Williams to anyone else (total flexibility).

My options are Blatche, who has a 3 day void coming, Azubuike, who I wish I had bought in the first day, or Daniels, who's had 3 straight big games but also has that 3 day void.
 
60reebbertxx
      Leader
      ID: 561124720
      Thu, Nov 22, 2007, 13:28 		Happy Thanksgiving all.

Only have 2 trades left and still have Udrih/Haywood. My hope is Haywood is starting on Friday and I go Udrih> L.Williams and save a trade. If I have to trade both My options are Daniels and anybody under 3.86mil or Blatche/M. Williams.

Farn I would definately stay away from AZu as he is done making money and had a negative night. Also I watched the game and Monta Ellis looked very good and will probably take some minutes. But who really knows what GS will do.
 
61twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Thu, Nov 22, 2007, 14:31 		Happy Thanksgiving

It appears a train is running with Sjax and D. Harris on it but it could be long ride yet. Both will have their ups and downs. Daniels certainly could be an alternative.

For cheapie, if I did not own Brewer he certainly looks attractive at his price--but that is being said by a holder who lost a ton in the last few days.

I am surprised Armstrong did not do a little better with Chandler out but I suspect he could have a big game sometime with Chandler out if he can stay out of foul trouble.

 
62qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Fri, Nov 23, 2007, 12:21 		uh-oh...i just started liking the idea of trading sean williams for daniels a lot.

it makes big money and points and leaves me with some cash for any contingencies (since i would only have one trade left).
 
63twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Fri, Nov 23, 2007, 21:36 		Daniels will be a popular pickup tonight. I thought he might do a little more. Maybe we should be talking more about the others--Jamison and Butler with Arenas out.
 
64G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Fri, Nov 23, 2007, 21:41 		twolves,

30 pts for 3 million. He can't go for 40 pts every night.
 
65qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Fri, Nov 23, 2007, 21:48 		i think it's too late to get into washington players at this point, especially when wrapping up more money.

good to see we have 6 Baron Davis'...unfortunately none of them are on my team.
 
66G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Fri, Nov 23, 2007, 22:22 		L. WIlliams rewarding his buyers - punk. At least Korver is coming back soon. That may impact things. Can you tell I have no plans to get him?
 
67G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Fri, Nov 23, 2007, 22:24 		Nice job on the Kaman train team. Should we send Haywood and Harrington a thank you now or wait and just send a Christmas card.
 
68reebbertxx
      Leader
      ID: 561124720
      Fri, Nov 23, 2007, 23:24 		Just got home. Glad to see both Udrih and Haywood played, but not very well so far. We all have Howard and Kaman so that's good. Also good to see Brewer and Ak make 170k each, although that was expected.
 
69twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Fri, Nov 23, 2007, 23:41 		Kaman has been something else this season--I would have never believed it watching him play in the past.

Howard has been rock steady and points wise will be hard to give up before 12/4.

Nice to see people come back to the Utah guys--I was a little surprised to see that much increase especially in Kirilenko.

 
70G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 01:15 		Ok gang I need a vote from everyone if you could please. On Sunday, I will have a choice of two combinations. Please consider the value of pts, $ (gained/lost) and flexibility (I only have two centers right now Howard and Kaman) in your vote.

Option A: Lebron and Bogans
Option B: TurkeyGlue and Z

Since they are both Cle/Orl combos the games are the same. Lebron/Bogans avg at 74 per game while Turkeyglue/Z are at 64. Bogans is the heavist ownership wise. Z provides some flex for Howard when necessary. By Sunday, Lebron/Bogans will only lose moeny the rest of the way. Z/Turkeyglue won't gain but they shouldn't lose nearly as much. I am really torn and can't seem to pick so any thoughts would help.
 
71G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 01:41 		um....I just realized if "B" is the winner, I would get Z for the game against Tor today (Sat) so a morning vote would be great.

Thanx
G
 
72Qwerty123
      ID: 12951620
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 02:00 		A, but maybe L. Williams instead of Bogans.
 
74G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 02:07 		Q123,

I have one trade to use and own Turkey and Bogans already so there is no flex to the options listed above. Is your vote still A?

Thanks
G
 
75twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 08:00 		I like A as Lebron should gain today as much as Bogans loses over the next week. I do not see Z as a big gainer unless you are willing to hold through Dec. 6. Otherwise Option C, I would just hold Turkey and trade with Howard and Bogans when the time comes next trading period.

Reebbertxx--Nice comeback by Udrih last night. Congrats on making those tough calls.
 
76twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 08:33 		Cleveland/Toronto has a 1:00pm eastern time start today.
 
77reebbertxx
      Leader
      ID: 561124720
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 09:43 		G, I like option A also. A bad Lebron game is 30 pts while Turk/Z are capable of having games in the teens. Bogans will leak rv but I think its worth the tradeoff.

Also I'm not sure if Gay is a factor in your plans but he did get injured last night.
 
78G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 10:05 		Ok, the Gay news hurts. My first post may have been confusing so I will try again. Before the injury, I wouldn't consider Lebron today. To do so would cause me to go tradeless today and I didn't want to do that. That is why I said the combo was for Sunday, a day after Lebron went up his big amounts already.

So only 2 trades left:

A: Sell Gay and Turkey for Brewer and Lebron missing an injured Gay game and a healthy Turkey game for 1 Lebron game and being tradeless today.

B: Turning an injured Gay into Z and having one trade for a day or two more.
 
79Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 10:12 		Once again I'm in a jam. I'm still holding the pathetic Armstrong. On top of that I have Gay. Oh yeah, I also have 1 trade (because I traded out of Udrih before last night's game).

So..... do I move Gay who may or may not be out or do I move Armstrong. I'm leaning towards Louis Williams. If I move Gay for him I can use that extra money Wednesday to get out of Armstrong...finally. If I move Armstrong Gay will undoubtedly get hurt and cause me more headaches.

Unfortunately I have no flexibility to move Gay to Big Z or I'd probably go that way. I can only get a guard and nothing really excites me.

 
80CJ
      Leader
      ID: 499271021
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 10:34 		Your situation is simuliar to mine as I still have Douby, but at 500k I am not succeptable to price hits. Half safe I guess. I have been doing the same...other guys need more attention to move and these 500k flops end up being the longest remaining players from an original roster. So I guess wish for a breakout game from armstrong.
 
81qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 10:46 		the wolf pack might have to be renamed team 'no trades'. we all have severe trade trouble.

Farn, I would defintely hold hilton, as he can't lose money and your FV could use help.

I don't actually think it sounds like Gay is going to miss time, does it? He's essentially got a jammed finger. Too bad he plays late.

If you are intent on trading one of them, I would trade Gay.

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G,

another tough call. A is a definite upgrade $ wise and overall, it just hurts to have to give up those games. But it also seems like Lebron is more capable of burning you with a huge game than either Gay or Turkey. If both play, you are probably looking at losing 10 points at most if all 3 play to their averages...and if Gay doesn't and/or Lebron goes off...you could gain a lot of points, in addition to the money.

B might be the smart way to go, as Turkey really is in no rush to be traded with solid production as of late...but as always, I have trouble telling people to skip Lebron. Z could really help your flexibility with Howard though.

 
82Qwerty123
      ID: 12951620
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 11:03 		I went tradeless for LeBron, so I guess that's what I would do. But if you wanted to diversify the team, B would go a long way towards doing so.
 
83twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 11:22 		G--I think I would go Gay to Z and hope Lebron does not go off. If he does, Z likely will have a good game. I assume you might plan long term to hold him through the weak of Dec. 6??

Farn--I agree I would hold ARmstrong since he cannot lose and Gay may well lose a lot. L. Williams is a cheap risk and there was an unconfirmed note about A. Miller may have tweaked an ankle last night helping with L. Williams playing time if MIller would miss time. On my teams with GAy and 1 trade, I am holding and eating the losses--hoping he plays.
 
84qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 11:30 		I do agree with twolves generally philosophy about trades...I think we all need to make long term moves at this point and try to avoid having all of us on the brink of being tradeless on the weekend. If it doesn't catch up with us this week, it definitely will next time.

For that very reason, I am hoping Turkey goes off today and stops me from trading him for AK tomorrow and going tradeless.

 
85G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 11:48 		Twolves, Qwert,

Yeah, the more I think about this, going tradeless today could have far worse ramifications for the long season ahead than choosing Z/Turkey over Lebron/Bogans. While Lebron is the best there is and it will hurt to watch him near 3D's every night, Z provides some flex and some possible longer term opportunities down the road if things go well.
 
86reebbertxx
      Leader
      ID: 561124720
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 11:53 		I guess Udrih>Williams is still on the table for me. Leaning towards saving a trade and holding Beno through his crappy schedule. The rv boost could be worth it, but I think I could use the trade later and make that up.
 
87twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 12:36 		Williams is probably only a slight money gain unless Miller is out for a time. You have survived significant Udrih selling already and if he puts up another good game maybe holdable. You could always trade Udrih after MOnday game and see what the landscape is then.
 
88G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 13:07 		reebbertxx, like twolves, I would wait until after Monday to review Udrih.

Well, Z is the newest memeber of my team and it has never hurt more making that trade than it did today knowing I miss Lebron. The Gay news sealed the deal.

As for Lebron, I think you throw match-ups out the window for someone of his talent. However Cle plays Boston twice in the days to come and if he was going to be held to ONLY 50 pts in a game, I think the big 3 have as good a chance of containing him as anyone.
 
89threespleens
      Leader
      ID: 00795541
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 13:48 		1 trade left and absolutely not using it accept for injury or until tuesday
 
90qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 15:05 		G,

I'm thinking maybe you wish you were tradeless right now. At least Z is having a good game for you...giving you a lot more flexibility than most of us with Howard.
 
91G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 16:31 		Well, that is the first time I ever got 40 pts out of 6 million center and felt sick about it when the game was over.

I guess there is still the hope that Turkeyglue drops 48 tonight and it ends up a wash.....yeah right.
 
92qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 17:14 		I'd say if he gets 30, losing the 18 points and keeping the peace of mind of having a trade still makes it a decent move.

why couldn't AK play tomorrow night, so that I could at least avoid risk of injuries tomorrow before possibly moving into him?

Any thoughts on going tradeless tomorrow morning (assuming nothing happens tonight) by moving Turkey for AK?
 
93G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 18:53 		Well, if nothing happens tonight I will be joining you in the tradeless category tomorrow. There would only be Monday and Tuesday price freezes to get through.
 
94Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 18:55 		Waited til the last second I could. No news on Gay. So I moved him to Louis Williams. I'll go tradeless and hope my bunch of ragamuffins survive until Wednesday.
 
95twolves
      ID: 14162121
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 18:56 		I would say you would not be the only one without trades and praying for no injuries. I think it also assumes you are willing to hold through his 3 day break down the road.
 
96Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 19:00 		alright. I got super super super last second jitters. Undid my trade and sold Hilton to Williams instead. I'm gonna roll the dice on Gay.

I just couldn't stomach having 6 million in unspent cash and 4 sub million players.
 
97twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 19:18 		That will leave us speculation only. If I am counting right, only three of us will have trades after tomorrow noon and that may be subject to change.
 
98qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 19:19 		Farn...would you mind running the stats if it isn't too much of a pain? Interested to see where we all stand with all the trade activity.

 
100Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 19:44 		Sorry for the delay. I need to get in to the routine again of posting them everyday. Totally forgot.
 
101qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 19:45 		Thanks Farn!
 
102G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Sat, Nov 24, 2007, 22:39 		Ok twolves is right on my tail. To track my blunder today, I had a 24 pt lead 57.68 vs 58.16 RV.

It will be Z/Turkey/Daniels vs Lebron/Harris/L.Williams.

Day 1 - T - 109 + Harris Me (I get Bogans today too) - 135
 
104G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Sun, Nov 25, 2007, 09:50 		So who is the only fool on our team without Brewer? Answer: the same dummy without Lebron. When is the waiver period coming up for GMD?
 
105G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Sun, Nov 25, 2007, 09:58 		I noticed the addition of Z creates another opportunity/dilemma

Howard and Brewer VS Lebron and Bogans

 
106qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Sun, Nov 25, 2007, 10:00 		pretty solid night for the team last night.

contemplating turkoglu for AK as always. Looking at AK's stats, he really hasn't been great aside from about 4 games against some pretty bad defenses.

however, I don't think the masses will care about that and skipping him would mean missing out on big money.

so wolf pack...do we want another tradeless team member or not?
 
107qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Sun, Nov 25, 2007, 10:11 		105,

you sure know how to come up with dilemmas G.

I would choose Lebron...it would be tough to get into him next week, whereas brewer is pretty easy to get into.
 
108twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Sun, Nov 25, 2007, 10:19 		The team is doing well except in the "trade" numbers. Maybe the true fools are those with Lebron and Brewer as the fool without Lebron and Brewer seems to have the highest WWR and has been moving up.
 
109G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Sun, Nov 25, 2007, 10:28 		qwert - thanks :) Congrats on hitting 60 mil.

Again, I keep going back to the darn money. This team is RV challenged and Howard/Brewer have better $ power than Lebron/Bogans at this point.
 
110twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Sun, Nov 25, 2007, 10:30 		qwert--the AK debate is that he will likely gain money but if the he does not produce may be a sell on 12/5 rather than a longer term hold. The good thing is that is a trade renewal day. The only other danger would be an injury with those low on trades since one or maybe two trades need to be reserved for next week when Howard needs to be traded and potential centers need to be found--Turkey could always be traded at that time for the "next best thing"
 
111G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Sun, Nov 25, 2007, 10:36 		Qwert

AK is going to be a popular move today as you know. If he is playing well he sets up for a 3.5 week hold. Of course he will hav emany up and down games during that period that may frustrate people. My first instinct is you are high in RV and you should keep pushing for another month or so when big time gainers come along.

Before I commit to that suggestion, my question back to you is this, if you don't get AK47 from Turkey, what are you planning to do with him?
 
112qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Sun, Nov 25, 2007, 10:50 		thanks guys!

G, good point about brewer making you more money than Lebron...you're doing great in points and, not that you're doing poorly in FV, but Brewer would definitely offer more of a boost than lebron.

As for an alternative Hedo exit plan...I don't really have one. I was sort of thinking, hold him til the end of next week for, as twolves said, 'the next best thing'. I had looked at Marvin Williams, but I'm feeling wishy washy about that.

I think it really comes down to
A - conservative, make sure you don't get caught without a trade,
B - make money and pick up a game
 
113G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Sun, Nov 25, 2007, 13:29 		wow, when I left for church this a.m. Yahoo had Utah/Det starting at 6:00. I decided to not make my trade of Bogans for Brewer until I get home and now I see the game started. What a last couple of days.
 
114qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Sun, Nov 25, 2007, 13:38 		tough break G...does that mean you go the other way?

I decided to go for AK...now i cross my fingers
 
115G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Sun, Nov 25, 2007, 13:44 		yeah it might...
 
116reebbertxx
      Leader
      ID: 561124720
      Sun, Nov 25, 2007, 17:08 		G, I hope you ended taking Lebron.
 
117G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Sun, Nov 25, 2007, 17:59 		Well, Yahoo allowed me to land Lebron and skip Brewer. Talk about being totally frustrated to finding a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

I can still get Brewer next week but I am now wondering if there will be some better options next week when I move Turkey and Bogans that will leave me skipping Brewer all together.
 
118qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Sun, Nov 25, 2007, 18:14 		G, are you planning on holding Daniels next week?
 
119twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Sun, Nov 25, 2007, 18:16 		I think the Lebron addition will make up for any concerns about missing the deadline--it may be a good omen for the year.

The one advantage of Brewer is that he is a G/F but I am sure you may be able to find some good options and possibly skip Brewer for the time being.

 
120qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Sun, Nov 25, 2007, 20:38 		since i blew my last trade this morning, time to start planning next week.

I think Al Jefferson is my guy for Howard. He should see some nice gains with good entry dates on 12/4, 12/6 and 12/11 and give me solid, if unspectacular output. We'll see if that's the case in a week.

At my other positions, I am pretty good next week, except for shawne williams, who i would like to upgrade. If Louis Williams does well on tuesday and he isn't too heavily owned, I might consider him, as it would give me flexibility to move Kobe for a forward (like Boozer) at the end of the week.

Moving Kobe and/or Daniels is a possibility, but not a necessity. I would thin I will hold Daniels through his 3 days off if he's still producing.
 
121G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Sun, Nov 25, 2007, 20:54 		qwert,

Daniels numbers since Arenas went down:

35, 41, 41, 30, 39.

He has only gone up 340K so at this point he isn't that heavily owned. Knowing there are 4 more games on the other side of the 3 days off that could be in 35+ range for only 3 mil, I think I will hold at this point.
 
123threespleens
      Leader
      ID: 00795541
      Mon, Nov 26, 2007, 10:46 		wow my gmd team stinks. wright, hilton, what a joke. i picked my worst team to enter this what was i thinking. sorry guys. useful trades upcoming.
 
125G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 12:42 		Well team we are still in this GMD race even tho most of us were in scramble mode when the season started. Despite the lowest RV and fewest trades I see good things ahead has the Howard shuffle starts soon.

In looking at the 3 teams we have that actually have trades, Haywood is the only one that seems like a trade could be used. However, I don't have a decent option on a replacement to offer. You could get any position but it depends on your plans for Howard.
 
126reebbertxx
      Leader
      ID: 561124720
      Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 17:11 		G, I would love nothing more than to dump Haywood, but everything I can come up with seems like forcing it. I figure if I wait until after Wendsdays games everything will be a little clearer. We should know by then if Kiri has to go as well as seeing 1 more game from possible replacements.
 
127G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 17:28 		Yes, I have several players that might be leaving and waiting a few more games seems to make the most sense. I admire your patience to have trades and a player like Haywood and yet still be able to resist the urge to take the risk. I guess that is why you have 2 trades left and I had 0 on Sunday.
 
128reebbertxx
      Leader
      ID: 561124720
      Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 17:36 		I'll give you my 2 trades for a wwr of 10. :)
 
129G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Tue, Nov 27, 2007, 17:44 		Throw in that 1.3 mil RV advantage you have over me and we might be on to something :)
 
131G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 00:01 		Yesterday my Howard --> Lebron looked pretty smooth. Tonight Lebron leaves the game in the 3rd and Howard goes off. Not so smooth anymore.
 
132twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 08:33 		Hopefully, Lebron will not miss any time--if he is going to definitely miss Friday game it will put some selling pressure on him for sure and change a lot of plans. Howard sure did go off last night and makes a good case for holding him until 12/4.
 
134G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 17:22 		Hey team, I just posted the latest on Lebron via rotoworld. Nothing new other than he is day to day so since there is a chance he will play tomorrow, I think I will sit tight on him since he is the early game and if he does not play move.

With all these people jumping early, if he does play I may hold him through his break.
 
135Qwerty123
      Sustainer
      ID: 349431211
      Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 19:32 		I've ruled out KG due to lower RV gains, particularly when getting back into Howard. That means it's down to Kobe or Camby, and I'll probably drive myself crazy right up to the tip. Bogans will depart with LBJ. In that slot, I'll most likely get Jaric, although I could get SJax if I take Camby. I like the opportunity to move Howard to Marion/Nash instead of Stoudemire if I go with Camby, but Camby is always risky.
 
136Qwerty123
      Sustainer
      ID: 349431211
      Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 22:21 		I'm rolling the dice with Camby.
 
137qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 22:35 		i did too. close your eyes and swing!

 
138Qwerty123
      Sustainer
      ID: 349431211
      Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 22:48 		Is it a bad sign that TNT just aired a commercial with the line "where regret happens" next to a picture of Camby? I'm crossing all of my fingers and toes, surrounding myself with rabbit's feet, and not changing my underwear for a week.
 
139twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 22:49 		That makes three of us--Lebron surely will go off now. I needed a center if I wanted to have flex with the Howard trade.
 
140qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 22:58 		i can't get a box score, but camby is cleaning the glass pretty well so far...and just had a nice layup (was going to call it an and1, but then he would surely miss the free throw after the commercial).

if disaster strikes my team tradewise and lebron is back to himself by tuesday, i might even think about going howard to lebron.

he'll have a sell off on 12/6, but should start making money right back.
 
141qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 23:11 		135

so much for lower RV gains...Camby only up 20K.

oh well...good start for camby. he just had a put back jam on the break while he was falling out of bounds. WOW!
 
142Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Nov 30, 2007, 00:02 		*Intruder* (non-GMD though)

Qwerty123 #135 - I went exactly the same way. I like the Camby move in order to move Howard to Nash/Marion and eventually back to LBJ. Camby becomes Howard again.

 
144qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 00:58 		only 3 Kirilenkos...that hurts.

and I see we just lost one recently...too bad.

time for bed. thank you andrei for saving me a trade.

think i will upgrade shwilliams tomorrow.
 
146twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 11:45 		Marko Jaric has a sprained foot and ankle from last night. He is apparetnly questionable for tonight.
 
147qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 12:13 		dodged a bullet there.

I am considering upgrading shawne williams today, with just enough cash to get RJ...but I think I would prefer not to use all my money. I suppose I could always get money by downgrading Howard or Kobe when I sell them, but I also have Daniels to consider.

G, what are you thinking with Antonio?

 
148twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 13:02 		On my other teams which have Daniels, I am in a wait and see mode tonight. I do have a trade reserved for him if needed. On one team, I may have to raise some cash with the trade to be able to afford Lebron sooner than later. Otherwise, I was hoping to hold but his recent games have not done much for that.
 
149Qwerty123
      Sustainer
      ID: 349431211
      Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 13:15 		Awful night for me... Williams, Dirk, Camby, and now Jaric. If anyone hears anything about his status for tonight, would you please let me know? Thanks.

With two trades and Jaric up in the air, I'm wondering if I should still do Howard to Kidd or wait until Tuesday to move him. Jaric sounds like he shouldn't miss much time, if any, and he's not too widely held yet, so I might be willing to wait him out if it's nothing serious.
 
150G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 17:37 		qwert,

I don't own Brewer yet so that is my plan.

G
 
151G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 17:40 		Qwerty123,

I saw the play Jaric got hurt on. He dove on the floor and got up limping. Everyone thought he had floor burn. A few minutes later he was still limping and came out. So it didn't seem like a big deal and if I hear anything, I will post here.
 
152qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 17:46 		150 - i'm jealous...think they'd let me buy him twice?
 
153Qwerty123
      Sustainer
      ID: 349431211
      Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 18:21 		Thanks, G. It doesn't sound too bad, so I'll probably hold regardless, but I'd appreciate any info you hear on him. Is anyone moving Howard to Kidd tonight? qwert had a good point about Dwight's upcoming opponents.
 
154reebbertxx
      Leader
      ID: 561124720
      Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 18:43 		Qwerty, I plan on holding Jaric as well unless I hear it's something serious. Minny's schedule is good through christmas.
 
155Qwerty123
      Sustainer
      ID: 349431211
      Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 19:05 		I may be asking to lose points, but I think I'll move Howard to Kidd. In return I think I'll make out really well on money. If I wasn't moving to Kidd, I'd probably go to Marion or Nash on Tuesday. The fact that the buys on Tuesday will be split between Nash, Marion, Stoudemire, and Jefferson limit each player's individual gain, whereas Kidd will be the primary gainer today with multiple ways into him. That could be a difference of $50-80k.

I'll then save on Howard's losses in the next 3 days. $~300k. I'll also get back into LeBron 3 days earlier. $~300k. Using season averages, the disparity is only about 20-30 points, which is worth the money IMO.
 
156qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 19:14 		I upgraded Shawne Williams with a complete last second change of plans. I didn't like something about Mcdyess, so I went in a completely different direction with Calderon. I realize Ford is back, but I think Calderon can average 35 until he loses the starting spot and can still stay around 25 after that. Call it a raptors fan's hunch. I also find it a lot harder to fill guard spots.

I decided I will plan to eat Daniels losses and hold him through next week, as I anticipate the losses being concentrated to a day or two with him.

We'll see if this differentiation move pans out or blows up in my face.
 
157G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 22:32 		qwert,

That Calderon move looks good for now. Daniels laid an egg which is going to hurt.
 
158qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 22:39 		ya, i think i'll probably have to move him

i'll probably wait til 11pm tomorrow and move him for telfair or udrih.

wolves fans' perspective on whether telfair will keep getting the minutes?
 
159G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 23:32 		Telfair is an option as long as Foye and Jaric are out. I can't imagine Jaric is out long but the coach likes Jaric and Telfair together (for now). They just wont give us any news on Foye so I have to think it will be 2 plus weeks. He will have to get back in to shape anyway.
 
160qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 00:17 		G,

do you like telfair better than udrih?
 
161twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 00:45 		The Telfair minutes may also depend on when McCants returns. Jaric appears to be the primary point guard when healthy with Telfair the backup for point and SG. Foye is probably a couple of weeks away although he has apparently been doing more things in rehab.

I think I would opt for Udrih given the choice.
 
163Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 08:53 		I am still holding Howard, and not by choice. Got stuck in the ASU/U of A traffic yesterday and missed the NJ tipoff by 3 minutes so I still have Howard instead of Kidd.

So I'll have Howard for at least tonight and maybe tomorrow.
 
164G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 10:02 		I wish I could have gotten stuck in traffic a few times recenetly instead of making of a trade.
 
165Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 10:14 		I felt that way about the roster I opened the season with. Made me wish I had lost internet and gone day late instead.
 
167Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 08:39 		Well, Howard didn't reward me with points last night but somehow he did make 30k, which has me scratching my head.

Anyway, my only real serious options out of him are Boozer or Kirilenko. Boozer doesn't have a lot of ownership and has the high price tag. If I go with Ak I save the 3 million which I can use to fix a couple of spots but I also risk him going back to his 20 point ways.

I'd rather not add Marion for a 3rd Sun who will all have to be traded soon. I guess I could try Dirk but I feel like the Jazz are a better fit.
 
168twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 08:51 		I think it would be hard to have a third Sun since many will get traded in a week.

AK may be the safer with Boozer injury status.
 
169G
      ID: 12271915
      Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 18:15 		Farn, I agree with twolves 100% on this one. I tlooks nice today but may not look so nice in 10.
 
170qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 23:06 		uh-oh...i have one trade and i'm holding howard and harris.

looks like i better move howard for a long term hold. only problem...who?

 
171G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 23:25 		qwert,

Rotoworld said nothing of anything wrong with Harris. In the game thread someone said he got hit in the head. He has been great for you up until the last two games. After a day off to heal they have 2 games and still a decent schedule. I wouldn't even consider selling him let alone over Howard
 
172qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 23:29 		I wouldn't trade him before Howard, but if he is injured, which he might be since he only played 26 minutes, i'm in a little trouble.

 
173G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 23:40 		If he didn't come back in after getting hit in the head, I would be surprised if it had any impact on his next two games.
 
174qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 23:49 		Good point G...I'll chill out.

I think it still might be a good idea for me to look at a long term option rather than going for one of the Suns.
 
175reebbertxx
      Leader
      ID: 561124720
      Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 23:55 		Normally Jefferson would be a perfect long term option, but he does have a nagging injury at the moment. Boozer looks like he will make some rv and can be held for close to 3 weeks, 4 if you hold through christmas break.
 
176reebbertxx
      Leader
      ID: 561124720
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 00:00 		Any team consensus on what sun to take? I'm leaning towards Marion as the safest play but I bet he makes the least of the three. I could be talked into any of them.
 
177Qwerty123
      Sustainer
      ID: 349431211
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 00:37 		Re: Harris... I saw the play on tv. He was under the basket as a shot went up. Noah flew in for the rebound, and came down with all of his weight on Harris' head bending his chin down to his chest. He laid on the ground for a bit, and went to the locker room and did not return, although the Mavs led by double digits for most of the game. The trainers didn't do any of the usual precautions, so it's probably just a sprained neck.
 
179qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 12:35 		looks like our group vote for beno over louis is finally paying off as we only have 3 louis and 5 benos. should be good for some cash tonight.

 
180G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 16:36 		Whoa, I just saw the transaction. 3spleens, perhaps we shall team again soon. Until then, Rendle welcome to the group.
 
181qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 17:15 		welcome aboard Rendle...i was wondering who was going to pick you up.

we need help.
 
182Rendle
      Donor
      ID: 014815714
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 17:38 		Hey guys and thanks for picking me, twolves. I felt like such a loser on the waiver wire.

My team isn't in good shape with trades but I'm definitely happy with my FV.

3 trades this week are already lined up for Louis Williams, Kobe, and Kidd.

Still holding Jaric who better play tonight. I guess it's a good thing there's a couple Minnesota guys on the team.
 
183reebbertxx
      Leader
      ID: 561124720
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 17:50 		Welcome Rendle and goodbye threespleens,hope I'm not on the block. Jaric is out tonight.

link
 
184 twolves
      ID: 2991339
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 18:03 		Sorry to let threespleens go, but happy to have Rendle.

Rendle--Send me your email address when you get a chance.

I certainly did not pick you up because of your timberwolves on the roster, but it does appear you fit in with the team as we are the only ones holding Jaric.
 
185reebbertxx
      Leader
      ID: 561124720
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 18:05 		I have enough to go Jaric>Calderon but that would close my window back to Lebron unless I make 2 trades? Team thoughts?
 
186twolves
      ID: 2991339
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 18:44 		I think Calderon will be popular pickup. As for Lebron--with him not playing tonight--there may be less incentive to pick up right away--not before 12/11 or 12/14--so two trades down the road may work out--especially if there is a player you might be contemplating trading.
 
187G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 19:58 		Re 185 - do it

Farn, the reason I agreed with twolves on not getting 3 Suns is because I now think you should get 4!
 
188G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 20:59 		Great news for our Devin Harris owners. He practiced today and will play tomorrow.
 
189qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 22:01 		188

it is great news...though i suspect the news came out much too late to dull the hit on him tonight

oh well saved trade is nothing to sneeze at.

the suns really burned me tonight
 
190reebbertxx
      Leader
      ID: 561124720
      Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 22:30 		I finally chalked jaric up as a mistake and went to Calderon. I can deal with freeing up money for lebron later.

I went back and forth all day on which sun to take, and ended up with Amare. I guess we are due for a little luck.
 
191Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 08:33 		If you are unsure what the column header means, hover over it with your mouse.
A pop up will display a longer definition of the header.

GURUPATRON BONUS MATERIAL
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SWP

LSWP

LSWP5

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FVC

Trades
1 Gmoney-1193 6418.5 204.5 2840 55 60.80 0.30 60.50 0.54 4
2 twolves-123 6390 161.5 2906.5 67 62.74 4.03 58.71 0.34 7
3 qwert-124 6287.5 200.5 2840.5 172 62.86 4.21 58.65 0.41 4
4 Qwerty123-4504 6151.5 122 2701.5 303 59.96 3.07 56.89 0.36 4
5 Farn-709 6002 209.5 2712.5 471 57.92 4.86 53.06 0.18 4
6 threespleens-4753 5997.5 222 2576.5 476 58.02 1.64 56.38 0.41 4
7 reebbertxx-5750 5985 227.5 2745.5 492 62.34 0.36 61.98 0.61 5
8 Dunkenstein-342 5984.5 146 2701 493 59.49 1.37 58.12 0.32 4

Head To Head

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COMMON TO BOTH TEAMS
 
192Qwerty123
      Sustainer
      ID: 349431211
      Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 18:59 		Anyone moving Kidd tonight? I might take this opportunity to move into Stephen Jackson. Jazz would be other options at that price, but they don't play for 2 days. Suns are too short-term. Maybe Wade who plays tomorrow?
 
193Qwerty123
      Sustainer
      ID: 349431211
      Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 19:01 		Huh. I guess I'm the only Kidd owner. Lucky me.
 
194qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 19:14 		if you're picking up someone who doesn't play tonight, might as well wait and take your time, cause I doubt his price goes down a lot, if at all, given the late breaking news.
 
195reebbertxx
      Leader
      ID: 561124720
      Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 19:15 		Qwerty, I'm in favor of getting Jackson from Kidd today. The extra cash should open up some options with the rest of your lineup.