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- Donor [2910242819] Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 12:33
Soulman's GMD thread has gotten lambasted by intruders, including myself, so I thought I'd open a thread to discuss, among other things, the merits of holding and selling Lebron.
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| | | 1 | jedman
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 12:39
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My move would be to Dirk, so I can't see making that move tonight. Unless we are not getting all the information, I can't imagine a sprained index finger on the non-shooting hand could be that serious. Tape it to the middle finger and get on the court you big wuss! 150K in losses to maybe save a trade on the best fantasy player of the year seems a small price to pay to me.
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| | | 2 | qwert
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 12:44
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agreed.
the rating of threads on this site has always been a bit of a mystery to me. apparently someone thought i did a poor job with this one, so my apologies.
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| | | 3 | Dave R
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 12:48
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Probably was Blooki ;)
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| | | 4 | deejay
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 12:54
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Qwert dont worry, it happens all the time. Some people apparantly find it hilarious to vote, and since we cant see who it is...
Seems kinda cowardy to me, but anyway.
Starting to like KG today.(and go from him back to Howard, sjjtt)
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| | | 5 | Blooki
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 13:02
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I went Lebron => "rating this thread a 1" x15
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| | | 6 | qwert
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 13:12
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now i'm getting pity ratings.
solid trade Blooki...that should take the 1's out of gravity
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| | | 7 | Blooki
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 13:18
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Re: 4
I'm starting to like KG too. Maybe I should make a PSA to sweeten the money side of things. ;)
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| | | 8 | deejay
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 13:27
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YES :)
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| | | 9 | Qwerty123
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 14:03
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Has Jaric caught anyone's eye? I'm thinking about LeBron and Bogans to Kobe and Jaric. Jaric is averaging 36 per game in the last week with increased minutes.
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| | | 10 | Qwerty123
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 14:12
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I thought about KG, too, but if I move LeBron it will be to Kobe. From now until Howard's game on the 10th, you can either get 6 KG's or 5 Kobe's and 1 Howard. If you go with the latter, you get back into Howard earlier for his gains. Not to mention Kobe's opponents consist of the uptempo Nuggets (x2) and Magic, along with the defensively challenged Wolves and athletically challenged Jazz. His struggles were against EC defensive teams like the Pistons, Bulls, and Celtics. All else equal, KG is usually higher scoring than Kobe, but I think the above mentioned factors tip the scales in Kobe's favor this time.
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| | | 11 | Blooki
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 14:24
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Qwerty, I agree w/ you that Kobe's got the RV going for him, but I think you're overrationalizing with the matchups.
Kobe's matchups are more attractive, but the Magic and Jazz are clearly are the stingy side of TSNP allowed per game and the Wolves are dead average. Seattle, Golden State and Memphis they are not. That being said, even the most favorable of matchups rarely cause a player to increase their expected production more than a couple of percentage points. Garnett outperforms Kobe by roughly 14% by my calculations.
Therefore, I think Garnett is where the TSNP will be at, but the TSND flow will probably be anemic.
If it were later in the season, I'd be buying KG in a heartbeat. As of now, I'm still undecided.
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| | | 12 | qwert
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 14:35
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I'm very interested in Jaric...but I can't get excited about selling Lebron for anyone enough to do so and get the extra cash that would allow me to move Shawne Williams for Jaric now.
Hopefully some info will come out Lebron this afternoon/evening.
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| | | 13 | Skip To My Lou
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 14:56
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Here's what I think is going to happen:
1. There will no definite news that LeBron is going to sit or play in the Cavs' next game before the freeze tonight. (And even if there is speculation that he will play, it will not keep the non-elite players from selling).
2. He will play tomorrow and break 40 tsnp, but will not exceed 55 tsnp.
3. As noted in (1) above, LBJ will be sold by the lemmings tonight hard, losing $170 or more.
4. Kobe and Dirk will be the primary beneficiaries, both gaining more than $100k.
5. KG will also be up, but only in the 50 to 80k range.
6. Kobe and KG will both outproduce LBJ in their next games, and Dirk will provide about equal production.
Thus, I think holders of LeBron will not suffer much in the standings, but will certainly sacrifice at least $300k in RV in the hopes that LBJ greatly out-produces his replacements. I don't love the balance of risk/reward there, so I'm leaning toward selling to Dirk (who appears to be picking it up a bit -- though he's clearly not in LeBron's class) everywhere.
Dumb prediction of the day: Howard will be among the modest gainers (maybe 30k) as he attracts some of the LeBron sellers after his strong game last night and with him heading into a 3 in 4 tomorrow -- nevermind the cliff that follows.
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| | | 14 | deejay
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 15:03
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do not forget that lebron to kobe needs flex, not everyone has that.
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| | | 15 | Soulman
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 15:13
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#13
Excellent summary, that's exactly what I think will happen.
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| | | 16 | CJ
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 15:21
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14 deejay
Exactly my case where one team I could not go to Kobe and already had KG and Dirk...So I went Jackson and did think about Bynum as Howard moved to F.
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| | | 17 | deejay
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 15:23
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Bynum is a bad plan, I suspect Bynum to Kaman tomorrow.
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| | | 18 | Rendle
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 16:00
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I've been listening to the Cleveland sports talk radio today but not much talk of the Cavs. One of the shows they don't talk any Cavs because Lebron showed up at the Indians playoff game wearing a Yankee hat. He only refers to him as Leboob. Mike Brown does have his weekly call in show tonight from 7-8. I think you can listen to it at wtam.com.
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| | | 19 | angryChair
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 16:01
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Post #13 Skip writes:
(And even if there is speculation that he will
play, it will not keep the non-elite players from selling)
Ouch! I must be "non-elite" because I
traded him for the need of cash and differentiation.
But, then again, I do suck at hoops.
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| | | 20 | Headless Gunners
ID: 19282419
Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 16:17
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Non elite player here
I believe this one is a bigger struggle than you're making out
how much do we value 2 trades ?
is it worth a million in RV and perhaps 100 points ?
If LBJ misses a single game, the cost will be something like that
if he misses no time he's gonna blow some big time RV in the next while anyway.
Was going to hold 4 x 5 except for #2 overall RV team.
Have now sold on a second team and if I don't go for dinner soon....
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| | | 21 | Skip To My Lou
ID: 538101711
Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 16:29
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Oh, come on guys! You're here, hence you are enlightened!
What I was trying to say is that part of this game is accurately predicting the often-times irrational decisions of the masses, in our quest to build FV. I think we would all agree that it would be a dubious move to sell LBJ if he came out this afternoon and said: "I'm fine. It was really sore when it happened last night, which is why I sat out the second half. But it feels perfect now and I'm ready for tomorrow."
Yet, we all also know that, even if he said that, he'd still be a fairly large money loser tonight. Many of the ... I'll call them "casual" players this time ... make a trade and that's the end of it. And I have a feeling that a large number of those type of LeBron sells have already been made.
For all these reasons, I sold him x 3.
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| | | 22 | Skip To My Lou
ID: 538101711
Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 16:35
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Re: 20.
Is it really the value of 2 trades? He had to go next week; all this injury does is move up his sell date. In an odd way, it's nice that it happened now because KG and Dirk are more attractive today than they would have been next week.
I do agree with the FV concerns, however. I only needed a moment or two of reflection before moving him on my top 10 FV team -- I just don't want to take the hit there.
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| | | 23 | Blooki
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 16:38
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For those going Dirk and not upgrading elsewhere, can somebody justify for me why dodging one RV hit is worth not waiting for another day's worth of news and a Yahoo! lineup peek?
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| | | 24 | bibA
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 16:39
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Yup, I am also having trouble figuring out if I am non elite. Non-elites will sell Lebron, and Skip To My Lou is obviously an elite, but he is selling! I just wanna do what the elites do, not the lemmings......this game is so confusing!
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| | | 25 | Skip To My Lou
ID: 538101711
Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 16:44
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heh heh.
To clarify, bibA: you would only be a lemming if you decided to sell LeBron when there was news or good reason to believe he'd play tomorrow.
There is no such news; thus, you will not have to wear a scarlet "L" for your choice.
My apologies to all who were offended.
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| | | 27 | Blooki
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 16:47
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Elite players have owned Mardy Collins this season!
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| | | 28 | deejay
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 16:49
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lmao Blooki.
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| | | 29 | 12th man
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 16:49
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Time for an ego check gentlemen!
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| | | 30 | Blooki
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 16:53
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Re: 26
I like the Camby route, but I think it only makes sense if:
- you need the C insurance (though there seems something wrong with using Camby and insurance together in the same sentence in this manner), or
- you can immediately use the freed cash elsewhere.
Otherwise, I think Kobe or Garnett are better immediate Lebron replacements.
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| | | 31 | Skip To My Lou
ID: 538101711
Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 16:55
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Blooki:
I think it's a harder decision if you don't have a use for the excess cash. I used it to (barely) squeeze into Kaman from Blatche on my best team.
If it's just a straight move, then the questions are (1) how much money will the extra day to consider cost you; and (2) factoring in the risk of a DNP, what's the likelihood that LBJ will out-produce the replacement?
Let's say LeBron plays and outproduces Dirk by 60 in the next four games, is that enough points for a 300k money swing? (I'd say probably yes.) What if it's only 30 points over that time. And finally, what's the value of eliminating the very real DNP possibility.
Isn't the only reason not to sell because nobody wants to miss out on a LeBron 85 TD? Bottom line: doesn't he have to throw up one of those huge games in the next 4 to make the hold worthwhile?
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| | | 32 | 12th man
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 16:55
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Sorry Blooki. Realised I had no Centre flex and couldn't get Camby anyway so i pulled the thread. Doh!
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| | | 33 | Blooki
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 17:08
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Re: 31
For some, there's also a saved trade involved. I'm not in a trade-strapped position myself, but I'm sure others are. Some managers were planning to use Lebron and his awkward exit date as one side of a triangle trade sequence (12/6 Lebron => Dwight).
Some might argue that it's only an extra trade if Lebron's replacement is a short-term hold. However isn't everybody going to be getting Lebron and Dwight back ASAP? The way my roster is set-up, I won't (barring a Baron injury which isn't outside the realm of probability) have a way to get back in if I keep Lebron's replacement longer than a week and a half and I suspect this is true for many managers.
Long story long, if I knew with certainty that Lebron would play even at 80-90% of his usual self for the remaining 4 games I would gladly take the RV hits to save the extra trade.
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| | | 34 | Soulman
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 17:09
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#31
Too funny Skip, I just posted a similar argumentation in the Team Soulman GMD thread, and only afterwards found that simultaneously you said what I tried to say. Only you did it quicker! :)
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| | | 35 | Dave R
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 17:13
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This just in. I called the Akron Plain Dealer newspaper and spoke with someone in the sports department. MRI was negative, just a sprained finger. Will dress and be a game time decision tomorrow.
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| | | 36 | Soulman
Donor
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 17:18
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#33
re: ways back into Lebron
Dirk transitions beautifully back to the King on 12/11. While also leaving the option to stay longer if he performs well. And if that's the case I'm sure another route back to Lebron can be found if again he looks to be essential by then.
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| | | 37 | Soulman
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 17:25
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Wow Dave, you got connections! You don't happen to have the chance of getting the King himself to the phone? ;)
Seriously, it's as expected in that there won't be anything definitive before tipoff. So not enough to make me hold. And probably not enough to make the masses of "casual" managers (who make their moves right after checking the boxscores and learning about the injury) undo their trade with which they sold Lebron already.
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| | | 38 | Dave R
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 17:44
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Agree about the tip off thing. And if one doesn't have the time or inclination to monitor lineups....
This so parallels the early Howard sell off, although there were no health reasons to dump Howard early. I can buy the " he might not be 100%" argument. If you think about it, a game time decision for a sprained finger? I can see a tender ankle, stiff back, or strained groin for wanting to get out and run and jump and see how things feels. But a finger? Come on, tape it to another and get out there.
One thing I can agree on, stud for stud, even swap of games isn't the end all, but Lebron has been above and beyond.
James will play tomorrow and we will all be kicking ourselves for trading out of another triple double.
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| | | 39 | Senator Urine
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 17:54
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I'm worried they'll sit him to be safe, he is the franchise. Why not sit him out of a relatively meaningless game and wait for him to fully recover?
I can't get it out of my mind what happened a both three seasons ago and last year. Three years ago Lebron was putting up 70+ consistently much as he is doing now, and then at the end of the game he got hurt. He reentered the game and played well, and said he was playing the next one and it was no big deal. Then he sat it out. And the next one too.
Last year I remember all too painfully they rested him once or twice "just to be safe" under advisory from the team doctors.
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| | | 40 | Mark L
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 18:08
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Blooki 27: maybe so, but have any of these so-called elite players owned Felton Spencer? EVER?
I rest.
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| | | 41 | jedman
ID: 59012312
Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 18:13
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Can anybody say Oliver Miller?
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| | | 42 | Guru
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 18:18
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[35] There's a Cleveland Plain Dealer, and an Akron Beacon-Journal, but I never heard of the Akron Plain Dealer!
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| | | 43 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 18:22
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They merged ;)
It was the Akron whatever.....
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| | | 44 | Blooki
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 18:28
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Re: 40
I moved Grant Hill for Danny Fortson 3 seasons ago. Here are their TSNPs in the very next game for each of them:
Hill - 58.5
Fortson - -2.5 (yes that's a negative sign)
I win.
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| | | 45 | Soulman
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 18:33
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Senator makes a very good point in #39. Lebron's theoretical ability to play does not mean he will actually play. As pointed out we've seen it in the past that the Cavs have Lebron sit out games as a precaution. They want to win in June and not only in November.
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| | | 46 | Senator Urine
ID: 141130310
Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 18:36
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I know the injury sounds stupid, but why are they even saying gametime decision then? If it was really nothing at all, you'd think they would just shrug it off. After being burned so many times by hearing that Lebron definitely would play and then watching him DNP, I'm thinking it's more likely he's going to be out. Him losing 200k tonight would not surprise me at all.
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| | | 47 | CJ
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 18:43
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30 Blooki
Add the fact that those teams that already have KG and no room at the guard spot then again Camby comes into play as he plays tonight and tomorrow. I went to Kobe for two reasons:
Probably leading money gainer from LBJ and schedule and points potential. So Camby is not my first choice on my third team but an option I was kinda narrowed into.
38 Dave R
I might agree he will play tomorrow but if that is true I doubt a 3D.
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| | | 48 | angryCHAIR
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 18:47
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Skip---No offense taking! I was just messing with ya----and by the way---I do suck at HOOPS!
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| | | 49 | ole
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 19:19
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LBJ will lose a lot of money but somehow i feel like holding. might be an excellent time for differentiation. didn't guru say "if in doubt, hold"?
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| | | 50 | Species
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 19:50
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Don't misquote him! ;-)
"When in doubt, do nothing"
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| | | 51 | CJ
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 20:18
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49 ole
I think that is when you are not debating moving a day to day player for injuries versus all healthy players and you thinking you need to trade. When injuries are involved I would not apply that rule.
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| | | 52 | G
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 20:19
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I love how reading how people have decided that LBJ won't play when no one really knows.
If this was a scrub, I would trade him for sure but this is the best player in the game today. If he plays his four games are better than anyone elses 5 games and I save a trade.
If he doesn't play, plenty of options to consider tomorrow.
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| | | 53 | turnabouts
ID: 461061517
Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 20:28
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Something weired happened to my team. I went LeBron to Nash. Afterwards nelson to jaric. And now when i wanted to undo both trades only the last one was shown. So I have Nash in my team and no possibility to undo the trade. Is this wright or a game fault??
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| | | 54 | Guru
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 20:29
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Did you do the first one before 8pm? If so, that trade was locked at the 8:00 freeze.
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| | | 55 | deejay
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 20:32
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that will it prolly be Guru, happened to me once too.
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| | | 56 | qwert
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 20:33
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in an un-Lebron related note, Boozer is a game-time decision for tomorrow's game. Not to hope he doesn't play or anything, but I really hope he doesn't play...giving AK some room to maneuver and hopefully put up a big game to stay a massive sell off.
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| | | 57 | turnabouts
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 20:33
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Yes at 7:58. Is this new this year? I can't remember this from last year...
But you're right. I just saw it in the rules.
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| | | 59 | qwert
Donor
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 20:41
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no, since the undo function was added, it has always worked that way
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| | | 60 | jedman
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Thu, Nov 29, 2007, 21:17
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Changed my mind and went with Camby. Lets me move Howard to F and I felt it gives me more options with Howard in a few days. I wasn't crazy about any of the C options. I still think Lebron plays tomorrow, but while still trying to build RV, I'm not going to fight the tape, Lebron's market is going down. Only having one team makes it paramount to keep my RV going in the right direction.
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| | | 61 | jedman
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Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 07:22
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Granger>McDyess today
L. Williams>Kirilenko tomorrow
Howard>Marion 12/4
I have a 380K window for the Williams>Kiri move. With Kiri having two days off and Williams playing today, that should be ok, although I do think Williams drops today after last nightt's effort and Kiri will get some buys, despite not playing for those 2 days. How willing are managers going to be to give up points to get Kiri?
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| | | 62 | deejay
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Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 08:01
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I think Lou will be fine today jedman, if he stinks tonight then we prolly have another story.
Everybody stunk last night. Just look at Dirk.
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| | | 63 | JMISA
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Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 08:07
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yea ... i was guna hold l williams for atleast another week and move Kobe > Kidd tonight
But since he sucked so much last night and he will defintly lose alot being up a million already im going to opt for Kobe > R Jeff
then Willaims to SJax the next day i also figured going more balanced will benefit my team better as we gain RV and won't need cheapie options anymore (except moon and brewer of course!)
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| | | 64 | angryCHAIR
ID: 29955918
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 09:15
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Howard>>>MArion 12/4
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| | | 65 | JMISA
ID: 151050262
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 10:10
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there is much tal kabout mycdyess but has anyone given rasheed wallace a thought about the Center position tonight? He's my #1 trade right now but havent heard anything on the boards from anyone on him any thoughts?
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| | | 66 | jedman
Dude
ID: 315192219
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 10:18
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I've never had any luck with Sheed when I've had him. He has some brilliant games when he feels like playing and then he just disappears. To be honest, I haven't even looked at how he's doing this year.
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| | | 67 | JMISA
ID: 151050262
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 11:02
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isnt that the case with mcdyess too though .... here's an interesting tidbit though > if u take out the 2 games sheed left with an injury he only has 1 other sub 30 game
don't know who else to get as Center as al jefferson's scedule is still spotty even for a 10/4 pickup
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| | | 68 | qwert
Donor
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Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 14:53
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I think Kidd is an attractive buy today, but given the tear that Howard is on and his next two opponents, if he is the only route, is that the way to go?
I am also not crazy about Kidd's opponents over the next 5 games. I could easily see Detroit and/or Houston resulting in one of Kidd's 20 something games that are not all that rare.
I will consider a move from Kobe to Kidd, but think that a trade of 2 Howard games for 2 Kidd games is asking to lose points.
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| | | 69 | twolves
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Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 15:17
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I can see a KObe to Kidd trade to raise cash for a possible Howard to Lebron trade for those wanting to conserve trades. I think the Kobe and Kidd points are more equal. Kobe has to go shortly and Kidd gains a game and can be held longer.
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| | | 70 | Allwell
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Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 16:09
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kobe-kidd.
L. Williams is going to have to make it a while longer. Hopes he gives me something tonight or he will start sinking fast
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| | | 71 | jedman
Dude
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Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 16:38
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It is just amazing to me how quickly people want to move out of a guy that is putting up fantastic fantasy numbers and has not had a real break in his schedule. IMHO, holding Howard has been the best move so far and I'm hoping it continues for the next two games. I'll take the losses and a B2B. I realize that every team is different and his losses could stop a future move, but I can't believe that is the case with every team. I think some of it is bandwagon jumping. And yes, I know I whine about this type of stuff every year, so I see no need to change this year. Let an old guy rant a little:)
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| | | 72 | kentucky indians
ID: 33892520
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 16:50
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Amen Jedman.... Amen brother!
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| | | 73 | Gary Dotson
Donor
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Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 17:44
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I have a 20K window for going Blatch to Horford tmrw. That will set me up for marion from howard on the 4th.
Do you guys think that window will close 2nite?? i hate to pull the trigger and miss points but dont want to screw myself either....I need that C....
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| | | 74 | kentucky indians
ID: 33892520
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 17:50
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Gary,
yes...I think that window closes tonight
ki
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| | | 75 | Soulman
Donor
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Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 18:23
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"...a trade of 2 Howard games for 2 Kidd games is asking to lose points."
qwert, that's an absolute precise analysis IMHO. A potential blowout vs PHI and a defensive battle vs DET won't let Kidd nearly approach the numbers that Dwight very likely is going to get in the TSNP-fests with the Lakers and the Warriors.
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ID: 141130310
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 18:58
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I'm no longer moving Howard for Kidd. I'm going to get Kidd through Garnett instead, and still be able to get the Phoenix guys from Howard after his two games (which I expect to be huge, especially the GS one obviously). The Phoenix gains should offset Howard losses.
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| | | 77 | Rendle
Donor
ID: 014815714
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 19:51
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9 TSNP through 6 minutes for Kidd. That was obviously the right move.
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| | | 78 | qwert
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ID: 2910242819
Sat, Dec 01, 2007, 20:13
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7 TSNP for Kidd through 12...your fault Rendle.
I didn't get him...Thanks!
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| | | 79 | CJ
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ID: 499271021
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 09:38
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Kobe, KG, Dirk, and in two days Howard.
We are we going? Was looking at Utah players but now the two big men are out.
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| | | 80 | Gescom
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ID: 520461315
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 09:43
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I don't see the urgency to trade Dirk. Yes he had 2 bad games in a row but still has a good upcoming schedule is a bound to rebound from low performance. He's also a perfect way back to Howard and Lebron in a week or so.
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| | | 82 | CJ
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ID: 499271021
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 10:02
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I already sold him and Daniels....moved Brewer to g and Howard to F will buy center now and then have Howard ready to move into Marion or Jefferson. Lebron with No fingers could outpoint KG, Kobe, and Dirk combined right now. Will cash in earnings on Dirk and for once I will be one to sell before the schedule quits. Maybe I can do better than as of late with this new Lemmings way of thinking?
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| | | 83 | CJ
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ID: 499271021
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 10:46
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Then I just did the Undo process....I need to rol into Tuesday with some trades for once. Bite the bullet now and scrap back into it later in the year. I need to bank some serious trades. Only way for me to do that is just NOT trade. I love some of the moves like Kobe to Paul in a few days...Howard to Jefferson other than that I might have to wait on James.
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| | | 84 | qwert
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ID: 2910242819
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 11:04
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Kobe to Paul? Are we looking at different schedules?
Al Jefferson is banged up (see injury thread)
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| | | 85 | Soulman
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ID: 016105313
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 14:44
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CJ, if you're dropping healthy studs at the beginning of a good schedule just because they had two bad games in a row, it explains to me why you're struggling to keep pace in RV. Be aware that if for whatever reason you decide to bail on Dirk today, it could well be that you trade away his good games for the next guy's bad games. Meaning all you do by this is getting each players' low performances while at the same time needlessly robbing yourself of trades. No lecture, just trying to give helpful advice.
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| | | 86 | CJ
Leader
ID: 499271021
Sun, Dec 02, 2007, 19:24
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I know you are correct, I undid all of my trade activity. Will just Ride out some people I am disturbed by right now (Diggler). I will kickmyself if LBJ goes for 100TSNP!
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ID: 51115937
Mon, Dec 03, 2007, 09:04
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isn't there an unspoken rule about getting 3 players on a team > for those contemplating boozer if you have AK and brewer already .... a string of blowout games can lead to complete team disaster
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ID: 5810561615
Tue, Dec 04, 2007, 00:06
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Any 6ers fans out there? What is up with L. Williams. Just curious if there as any explanation for his poor play recently other than he is a back-up and he is young. He has made a lot $ so it may be time to move on tomorrow.
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