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Subject: Weykool's GMD team (TP2)

Posted by: weykool - Leader [41750315] Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 01:25

Well It was a very tough choice to drop Coldwater as he has a proven track record in past years but is off to a slow start this season.
We add JMISA to the squad and hope his energy and decent showing he has shown thus far will jump start our team and move us to the top of the standings.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 09:37

Plans for my sorry no-account team:

Thursday: Kobe & Sean Williams to Udrih and D. Howard

I could squeeze in Salmons as an alternative to Udrih, but that would leave the subsequent move from Dirk to LeBron with not much wiggle room financially. Salmons, however, does seem like someone to consider now, with Kevin Martin on the shelf for 4-6 weeks.

Next Tuesday: target date for Dirk=>LeBron, assuming that LBJ has returned to action by then.

Those moves leave me with one spare trade this week. Hopefully I can bank it and not be forced to fix an injury problem. But the way this team has been performing, it seems loony to assume that something won't go wrong.

If I want to play more conservatively, I could simply hold Sean Williams and forego Udrih. I suppose it's possible that the Martin injury will negatively impact Udrih's numbers (if anyone can figure out what Udrih's normal production really is), but it's probably just as plausible that Udrih benefits a little from the loss of KMart. Time will tell. In any event, Sean Williams seems destined to be no better than a 20 TSNP/g player (and maybe slightly less).

I do wish that Udrih's schedule was better for longer, however. Of course, when it goes "red", there are a lot of other teams with similar redness. But any gains over the next week are likely to be lost unless he's dumped. Perhaps there is a better long-term option?

JMISA
ID: 51115937
Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 09:53

hey guys glad to get this period on the start .... what i just noticed is that theres only 2 amare's and 1 marion in our GMD!

Especially after watching last nights game this can back track us for this week ... im assuming most of us are trying to conserve trades but the phoenix pickup IMO is well worth the trade as it it one of the few times during the season that players get 3 games for 2 trades in A>B>A option.

I see we have 6 Dirks though (which could have accounted for our last place standing since other GMDs have less of him) ... i passed on him and was happy about that...... but for the good of the GMD let's hope he starts to show life in this B2B starting tonight.)

JMISA
ID: 51115937
Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 10:05

if Dirk underproduces these 2 games tommorow and tonight I HIGHLY suggest for everyone holding him to make the switch to Boozer immedietly ... this will help cover the losses we will incur from holding 3 Suns (as the other GMDs have 7-8 suns) as well as give us a good differentation as the other GMDs also arent currently holding boozer

Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 10:34

JMISA

Short of Dirk averaging Lebron numbers this B2B, he's gone from my team, since I'll need to sell Dirk+Amare for Howard+Boozer

Still trying to figure out what to do with Bynum. You guys think Salmons is a good option? or is Calderon a safer bet? Ford is back, so I doubt he will produce over 30 a game.

I do not need a C, got around 5M to spend. any advice would be welcome.

deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 10:38

Intruder

TJ Ford back?
Thought we just found out he aint?

Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 11:44

DJ, I saw in the Toronto Star that he is day to day.

"He did a little work yesterday – he was involved in a rather intense game of three-on-three with teammates Darrick Martin, Juan Dixon, Kris Humphries, Joey Graham and Maceo Baston after a short practice – but Mitchell said Ford's still not certain to dress.

"'For him, it's just a day-to-day thing, how he feels, and so he'll do some work ... and see how he feels'"

Not saying Calderon is a bad pick, but if he can play an "intense 3 on 3", how long will he be out for? 1 more game? 2? that is not what I want for a 2.5 week hold of Calderon

with Martin out, maybe a Sac player is a better move.

JMISA
ID: 51115937
Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 11:51

Yehosh
if you hold Amare til Howard you sholdn't need a C right since it should flow into place dirk and amare > howard and boozer should equal in $$ too with a small window but i think it should be fine u might need to keep like 500k in the bank jus in case

i wouldn't go with Salmons jus because Sac's schedule is minus 1 or 2 games vs. other teams and that is enough to nullify any Sac player except udrih.

Calderon is doin real well .... idk bout the TJ ford situation i think deejay is right and TJ will be out longer .... i am reluctant to get him though because i feel like he will suck right when i pick him up but his schedule is perfect for the next 2.5 weeks.

Having 5 mill $ for a player this week is real hard because there is a big hole in that price range for viable players.

If you are going to hold today and trade tommorow i would jus advise to pick up udrih (as he will def be a keeper and price ganier) and jus bank some money for a later upgrade

but if your'e going to trade today i would suggest mcdyess, G Hill, or even rudy gay (he blew up recently has 13 games til the holidays which is decent and has a good january scheudle)

Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 12:08

If Bynum is playing I'm holding tonight. If I go to Udrih tomorrow, then I can upgrade Starvin (and stinkin) Marvin Williams right into Deron's B2B. I have position flexibility.

As mentioned before, other stud moves will be Amare->Howard and Dirk->Boozer

Only downside is using 4 trades, but it will lock me into 3 studs long term and worst case, I hold onto Amare for an extra game, and take Howard on Wednesday.

JMISA
ID: 51115937
Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 12:10

on 2nd thought Yehosh def pass on calderon

i see we only have 1 calderon on the squad lets jus all bypass him and make it the other squad's problem if tj does come back

i like your plan of udrih and using the money for derons B2B the worst would be picking up calderon to only have to trade him in a few days not to mention you are already planning a massive trade week

deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 12:59

Intruder

Thanks Yehosh, seems smart to stay away then.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 14:20

We've all got Baron now, and I assume we'll all be getting Dwight Howard soon.

For those who also have plans to get Boozer, what are you thinking about LeBron? It seems that with Baron, Howard, and Boozer, it would be hard to squeeze in LeBron as well (financially). Or are there enough viable cheapies to do it?

I realize that LeBron hasn't played yet. But, assuming he's close, my plans were to move from Dirk to LBJ on Dec 11. If Boozer is the transition candidate, why pick him up from Dirk for such a short holding period? I know I could move from Dirk to Boozer on 12/7, and then from Boozer to LeBron on 12/14. But is that worth a trade (i.e., 4 Boozer games vs. 2 Dirk plus one LBJ)? Or am I missing something? (..and the way this season is going, I recognize that I'm apparently missing alot!)

JMISA
ID: 51115937
Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 14:31

Guru
I'm planning on taking the long road through December without LBJ .... i realized with my moves i made last week (balancing out Kobe for 2 6 mill players) that I would set myself up for a choice between Howard and LBJ

i opted for Howard for 3 reasons
1. C elgbility
2. More games > Longer term schedule hold
3. Non injury

Its a big risk to take but i figure i'd save a couple of trades and we can always move Baron > LBJ at many suitable points in the schedule if absolutety need to

Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 17:01

Guru, great question. I'm been trying to plan for that but the only move I can see a good move. Only possibility is Baron->James on the 13th and that is not a great option.

Do you have any ideas?

kentucky indians
ID: 33892520
Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 19:16

Anybody else looking at Dwayne Wade tomorrow? He plays 14 games in 24 days and while he has not been that consistant, he is a stud when on. Although I obviously do not have the money for more than maybe three studs; I need to prioritize my "must haves." Dwight Howard is clearly #1 in my book.. I like going Bogut to Howard on 12/10, just need to generate about $2M to do that.
not sure who my #2 is though??
Boozer.. could go dirk to boozer on 12/7 but that doesn't excite me with matchups @San Antonio and @Dallas followed by two days off!
or I could go on 12/11 but that misses Boozers money?
Baron Davis is holding my #2 money right now... not sure what his best exit date is? He could go to Wade or Kobe on several dates. Would love Deron Williams but he does go there very easily at all!
LBJ...I guess I want to see him play and then even buying him on the 14th his hold looks kindof short... But what do I know? I didn't see that 67.5TSNP game coming from Amare last night at all!! I too have obviously been not seeing alot the past two and a-half weeks.

JMISA
ID: 51115937
Wed, Dec 05, 2007, 20:19

Kidd out tonight glad to see that we have no kidd holders

the injury thread warned on him 5 mins before tipoff and the other GMDs are holding him ... if they had missed the post this is a good chance for team weykool to pull ahead!

Kal Zakath
ID: 269581213
Thu, Dec 06, 2007, 01:37

I'm looking at the schedule for LeBron as well.

If he drops far enough (really unlikely), I migh be able to go AK47 to him, though it is not a great option.

Probably will work something out whereby I downgrade someone like SJackson and upgrade Marvin Williams at that point, unless something better comes up. I'm thinking that at worst he is going to be about $11.2 million, at best about $10.8 million.

Blooki
Sustainer
ID: 449292712
Thu, Dec 06, 2007, 02:09

I think that's quite an optimistic outlook there, though I'm notoriously bad at estimating price movement. I'd say $11.2mil is close to the best case scenario. I can't imagine too many people selling after tonight so we're talking about losses of 10K-30K or so and eventually 0 once it stops. I think there will still be enough inactive teams that drafted or purchased Lebron prior to today to keep him out of gravity. Current ownership is just under Andrew Bogut and above LaMarcus Aldridge.

Kal Zakath
ID: 269581213
Thu, Dec 06, 2007, 06:01

Blooki -

I'm guessing he actually goes into gravity with the latest DNP - which is where I am getting the 200k loss from where he is right now.

If there were any holders out there stuck with trades and hoping that they could get differential from him, tonight might also have been the last straw. I'm guessing that there will be one more 70-100 drop, then the gravity should set in.

If he doesn't, and if gravity does not set in, then it will be more like 11.3 million.

The one thing you seem to be able to count on in this game is that there are those who make the most illogical holds or sells - I'm looking for some of those illogical sells over the next couple days from the people who had it in their head to hold him right to the end of the schedule...

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Dec 06, 2007, 09:57

My team has been giving me gas all season, so I guess it's about time to get the Beno!

weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Thu, Dec 06, 2007, 10:13

Guru:
Our teams are very similar.
Have Beno already.
My only planned move is Dirk to Howard tomorrow.
If I trade out of Sean williams I could get someone for about 8 mil.
Dont want to do it today because I dont like any of the center options.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Dec 06, 2007, 10:55

Guru: Our teams are very similar.

My condolences...

weykool
ID: 2842717
Thu, Dec 06, 2007, 12:09

I actually like how my team is set up right now.
That could change very quickly but at least for now I like it.
Past performance was very pathetic.
But we only have one way to go from here.

C. Bird
ID: 5510211919
Thu, Dec 06, 2007, 13:33

I also plan to move Dirk tomorrow to either Howard or Boozer. Boozer plays 1 more game over the next week and a half. Do you think the money will be that much better with Howard? I could upgrade AK and get both but I don't think its worth the trade to do so.

weykool
ID: 2842717
Thu, Dec 06, 2007, 15:56

Coach:
I already have Boozer so adding Howard seems the only viable way to go for me.

I would think either one would work for you.
I would not do both.
Seems like forcing something that doesnt need to be forced.
There might be another way into whichever you dont choose later on so I would wait.

C. Bird
ID: 41055623
Fri, Dec 07, 2007, 00:49

I think I will go Dirk to Howard and then move Bogut for Boozer on 12/11. Howard will probably make more $$.

Florian
ID: 167272717
Fri, Dec 07, 2007, 09:45

Will trade Nowitzki to Howard tonight.

Will also trade Devin Harrris to either Tinsley or Deron Williams. Their performances have actually been similar, their schedules are similar (one extra game for Deron this week), but Deron costs an extra two million. However Tinsley has been injury prone in past years. So do I pick up Tinsley or Deron Williams?

Will use my last trade to pick up Boozer (or possibly Lebron) from Bogut on the 11th if there is no pressing need for it before then.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Dec 07, 2007, 10:04

I really don't know what to do with Dirk today. The options:

a) Hold until Tuesday, hoping that LeBron is back in action.
b) move to Boozer today
c) move to Wade today

The original plan was (a), but with LeBron still on the shelf, and plenty of Dirk owners chomping at the bit to move on, that could be an expensive choice, notwithstanding last night's good outing.

As I mentioned in a previous post, if I go to either Wade or Boozer, then there is not a logical segue into LeBron (out of Wade/Boozer or Baron). I could simply decide to pass on LeBron, although if he returns to form quickly, that could also be a tough competitive hole. I could also possibly squeeze him in by finding a cheaper option for one of Calderon, McDyess, or Kaman. But if LeBron comes back as early as tomorrow, he may have appreciated too much by 12/14 to make that work. And it would also leave me in a very barbelled position, reducing flexibility.

Absent any favorable news on LeBron today (unlikely), my sense is that moving Dirk to either Wade or Boozer is the best choice. That will leave me with one unscheduled trade for the balance of the week.

Which then raises the question: Wade or Boozer?

Florian
ID: 167272717
Fri, Dec 07, 2007, 10:07

After looking at my team and doing some basic math I realized that if I want to pick up Boozer from Bogut, I can't actually afford Deron Williams. Which means I need a guard under 7.5 million from Harris.

The options:
1. Tinsley; same story as previous post; would actually gain a game by waiting to buy him until the 11th, but Harris will take a huge hit tonight and has been playing so poorly that two of his games may be worse than one of Tinsley's

2. Monta Ellis; a little cheaper, schedule-wise could be held until Jan 21st; now finally starting, but who know what Nelson will do next

3. Calderon - probably not a good option with his high ownership now that Ford is back

4. Grant Hill - playing well; schedule not great (though it gets great in January); always an injury risk

Who do I pick up? Currently leaning towards Monta

Florian
ID: 167272717
Fri, Dec 07, 2007, 10:20

Guru:

I'd trade Nowitzki to Boozer. Wade may perform better, but may also perform much worse. So I guess it depends if you're feeling lucky. I'd skip Lebron. His schedule isn't really good for very long before he needs to be traded again and who knows how well he'll perform with the finger injury.

Keep in mind my last few trades have worked out terribly (Lebron to a very underperfroming Nowitzki, Howard to Bogut just before Howard had a bunch of big games, etc.), so I'm not sure how much my advice is really worth.

weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Fri, Dec 07, 2007, 10:23

Guru:

The good news is most of the Dirk sells should go to Howard so your gains there should offset your Dirk losses.
I went Dirk to Howard.
If I were to make a choice between Boozer and Wade I would go with Boozer.
Something just isnt right with Wade.
Most of his points last night came lat in the game when it was well in hand.
If he puts up a couple of stinkers I could see Wade to BoozerDeron as a popular move on 12/11.

Florian:

I have the same dilema.
I need to move S Williams and have 5.57 in cash to upgrade.
Cant afford Deron but would like to put the money to use.
I have just under 8 mil and can be any position.

Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Dec 07, 2007, 10:39

There is a possible way for me to squeeze LeBron, Baron, Boozer/Wade, and Howard onto my roster all at once next week. On Dec 13, I move Kaman to Bynum. Then, on Dec. 14, I move S. Jax to LBJ.

From 12/13 thru Christmas, Bynum plays 8 times to 5 for Kaman. Kaman also has a 2-in-8 during that stretch, so he probably should be moved anyway.

I know it's still early, but what are people thinking about Moon over the holidays. (Sounds like a song title!) Starting Dec 23, Toronto is off for 5 straight days, and there's another weak stretch in the first week of Jan (2-in-8). Although there are times when a good, cheap producer can be held through light schedules, a 5-in-17 may be pushing the limit.

Not suggesting the you need to figure out his replacement now. But I think you need to be anticipating that need. (Ditto for Calderon, if you have him.)

JMISA
ID: 51115937
Fri, Dec 07, 2007, 11:08

for the Guard situation : didn't anyone notice Jaric last night .... outscored wade and played alot of minutes with gravity he is now at 3 million flat

only concern is does anyone know wwhen randy foye is espected back most sites say mid decemeber which is in a few days ....

weykool
ID: 2842717
Fri, Dec 07, 2007, 11:43

I would avoid Jaric unless you are upgrading someone like Louis.
Every year he has those out of body experience games and then comes back to earth with a thud.

JMISA
ID: 51115937
Fri, Dec 07, 2007, 13:35

i see ..... still the nu,ber he put up in the past 5 games (excluding th game he go injured) are 47, 47, 35.5, 37 is kind of hard to ignore i wouldn;t really look at him if it weren't for minnesota's phenomenal schedule .... although foye's return will change all that does anyone have any info on that?

ki @ work
ID: 2836246
Fri, Dec 07, 2007, 17:25

I've been noticing that Beno,Brewer and Moon all seem to have schedules that dry-up at the same time... barbelling would be awefully difficult without those three.
Moving Dirk to Boozer tonight. I really didn't plan on jumping from Dirk this early, but I think with everyone else is jumping off I need to do that to try to get my RV up.

dpr
ID: 1733917
Fri, Dec 07, 2007, 19:14

Intruder

KI
if you do sell udrih then u can just triangle back into him from Moon 3 days later when your schedule looks good again. Te fact you have Boozer should make it easier to get out of him and Brewer at the same time. That solves 2 of them and for the other (moving out of Udrih or Moon if you keep Udrih) im sure something will pop up in the next few weeks where you can either free up cash or see a cheapie you like

weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Fri, Dec 07, 2007, 23:20

A shocker.
My team made 830K.
Dont think I ever made that much in one night.
Guru with 730K and Yehosh with 690K.
Nicely done.

kentucky indians
ID: 33892520
Fri, Dec 07, 2007, 23:31

...even I made a slightly laging $510K

Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Sat, Dec 08, 2007, 01:34

wow, 690 and I didn't even pick up Howard yet (that is on sunday)

Well done Weykool, certainly beats my record of 810K,

Kal Zakath
ID: 269581213
Sun, Dec 09, 2007, 10:46

Well, the Calderon move didn't work out that well - am wondering if he is a must sell at this point or if you can hold him anyway.

Am not up enough on the Raptors to really know if he is going to be a viable hold, or should I look to someone like Udrih (no game tonight, schedule is only about 10 days long) or Daniels (most of the sellers should be out of him and even though his schedule isn't bad, he still has as many games by the 22nd as Udrih).

Are there any other cheapies out there I might be missing?

kentucky indians
ID: 33892520
Sun, Dec 09, 2007, 10:59

Kal,
I just bought John Salmons myself because of the Kevin Martin injury... he is sub $5M not sure if that qualifies as a cheapie?
His schedule --by weeks-- while Martin heals is 4-2-3-4-3-4. Not bad at all in my opinion!

qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Sun, Dec 09, 2007, 11:10

45,

As a raptor fan, I would say hold calderon today, see what he does. he's not a must move by any stretch, but the problem is friday was a blowout coinciding with tj getting the starting job.

If you have a viable move from Calderon go for it, but don't buy a player that doesn't play or a guy with a horrible schedule (Daniels is not an option IMO). Udrih's sell date is the 19th, so comparing his schedule through the 22nd is misleading I think.

weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sun, Dec 09, 2007, 11:44

Kal I would not sell a player who is playing for someone not playing.
With Kiri sucking and people moving out of Amare to Howard I think the Calderon losses will be muted.

Kal Zakath
ID: 269581213
Sun, Dec 09, 2007, 14:39

weykool -

If I were going to move him to Udrih - it would be after today's game.

Am guessing that I'll have to see all of the results from today to determine whether or not I have to sell him or not.

Maineac
ID: 581149517
Sun, Dec 09, 2007, 15:25

I watched the game today and Ford, with his head down all day, looked like a whipped puppy. Toronto could clear up their pg problem by trading one of them to the Celtics. I like Calderon's chances because I think he accepts the situation better than Ford.

qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Sun, Dec 09, 2007, 15:40

As in you like Calderon's chances of staying or being traded? I think they would be crazy to let a true pass first point guard with double digit assist potential (for a season) go. Not that TJ Ford is chop liver.

I'd also challenge you to find anyone on boston that they are willing to give up (ie. other than top 3) that is worth ford or calderon.

Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Sun, Dec 09, 2007, 17:54

Boston has nobody to trade for Calderon, so I wouldn't worry about that happening anytime soon.

JMISA
ID: 51115937
Sun, Dec 09, 2007, 20:17

if they went by tsnp points boston could trade Garnett that would be an almsot even trade ;)

Maineac
ID: 581149517
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 05:08

#51

I guess I musta been thinking of future considerations, players to be named later or some cash plus a couple leprechauns. There isn't much left, is there?

ki @ work
ID: 2836246
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 09:02

I was looking a Jaric yesterday... for those of you with similar thoughts; here is why I stayed away:
Foye getting close..

weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 10:11

Is anyone thinking about moving Moon?
If so then who are you picking up?
Im not sure if I see anyone but if there is a consensus move then it might be worth a look.

Yehosh
Donor
ID: 181082023
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 10:42

We're moving up in the standings boys, good job everybody

Yehosh
Donor
ID: 181082023
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 11:17

One move could be Daniels on thursday. I know, he starts a 2 in 6, but nobody else is worth taking that I can see(I think most of us have Beno already), and Daniels can be held until the 16th of Jan.

So in reality, you lose a game, but considering the fact that he should outscore Moon by at least 5 tsnp in each game, it's not such a bad deal.

There is also the option of Quinn, but it smells like false train to me. WIlliams only has a sprained ankle. I can't see how that would take him more then 10 days to recover.

Last option is Williams from Indy. So so producion, but frees up cash and has a nice schedule.

ki @ work
ID: 2836246
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 11:58

Bogut to Howard for me tonight... making me the last to pick him back up!

JMISA
ID: 51115937
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 12:46

58: thats alos because we have more baron and boozer holders the other squads held onto PHX players for another night (i didn't) the scores should even out more after tonight (altho on avg yes we are moving up slowly but surely =)

also like to see that the phoenix losses the other gmds took help contribute to our rise in the FV standings too

JMISA
ID: 51115937
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 12:49

by watching the moves u guys make i realized alot of you don;t mind losing a game here n there for $$ sake .... i been making most of my trades based on PTs and take some money hits ... as can be seen in the scores i get good points but lose some money maybe i should switch it up as im currently 2nd to last in our standings with FV and FV is more important in the early months.

weykool
ID: 2842717
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 14:15

JMISA:

I think it is a matter of when, how much RV is in question and how many points.
Most of us stuck with Howard and took the losses during the early selloff.
On cheapies it is mostly about the money right now.
If we all play our cards right we will only have a cheapie or two the last couple of months and then you will be seing most of us holding players for the entire schedule or making moves based on points.

Florian
ID: 167272717
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 14:29

I'll wait and see how Moon does in his next two games before considering trading him.

I have one trade left. Will likely trade Bogut to Boozer tomorrow. Part of me wants to save the money and trade him to Deron Williams instead.

Next week I'll trade B. Davis to Wade (or possibly Kobe). Am considering Kaman to Bynum on the 13th. Would like to pick up Tinsley, but I don't have anyone obvious to trade into him. I suppose I could force Jackson to Tinsley, but that seems a stretch and Jackson's schedule remains good into January. Currently planning on skipping Lebron.

Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 17:03

You guys think Baron can be held until new years? I really dont see the point of selling him before then

weykool
ID: 2842717
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 17:06

I see a Baron to Lebron move in the cards very soon.
Keeping till new years would save on the trades but your RV will take a hit

JMISA
ID: 51115937
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 18:18

quick question .... hafta trade out of jefferson tonight and with the need for Wade/boozer and Howard its left me with a need to have to sell Jefferson for someone of similar price or less (no tinsely)

the only 2 viable players r Jameer Nelson or John Salmons ... i have 45 minutes to get Nelson

Nelson should get around 30 a game and plays 1 more then Salmons in the next 4 weeks

Salmons should get a lil over 30 a game i suspect given his new starting position so the points will equal out the same

basically its a question of consistency and who will make more RV

any opinions on this desicion?

JMISA
ID: 51115937
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 18:31

leme add that salmons GF elgibiliy has to be considered too as well as my guards right now are long termm holds (meaning no new guard can be added in the next few weeks it seems if i get nelson) and rudy gay (-1 game from nelson too) is under consideration too

weykool
ID: 2842717
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 18:32

I would go with Salmons.
Jameer was on many rosters at the start of the season and was inconsistent.
Those managers will probably avoid Jameer and go with somone who has not disappointed.

JMISA
ID: 51115937
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 18:53

yea i was leaning more towards salmons jus becasue of the GF maneuvurbility but his 1 in 5 scares me in a week and his b2b gets off at a bad time with no1 really to pickup besides bynum .... Hedo is a possiblity too but i always put jameer> hedo for some reason

JMISA
ID: 51115937
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 19:03

ok well i wasnt really happy with any outcome so i picked up keith bogans (800k) that leaves me 5 mill to make rasheed or s jax into boozer if i really wanted to

deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 19:05

Intruder

JMISA

Bogans is out for tonight, you might want to reconsider that.

deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 19:07

oops hes in yahoos starting line up tho. my bad.

Blooki
Sustainer
ID: 449292712
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 19:07

Bogans is in the lineup according to Yahoo!.

Regardless, he's already frozen so not much JMISA can do about it now.

JMISA
ID: 51115937
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 19:10

yea that sux if he is but w/e my internet sucks so much today it takes me 20-30 secs to load up webpages ... if he is out today its no reall biggie i jus hope he isnt out with an injury

JMISA
ID: 51115937
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 19:14

11:40 ORL - K. Bogans offensive rebound
11:41 ORL - K. Bogans missed a 9-foot fade away jumper in the lane

ok im happy deejay almsot ruined my night!

deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 19:19

Intruder

Sorry for that JMISA.

JMISA
ID: 51115937
Mon, Dec 10, 2007, 19:25

haha its ok i appreciete the quick reply though as if i had the time and proper internet access tonight i would have undone it jus in case

Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 11:58

After some tinkering this morning, I came up with an adjustment to my plans. It turns out that I can upgrade from Calderon to Tinsley today, and still have enough room to move next week from S. Jackson to either LeBron or Wade (along with Kaman to Bynum).

Wish I'd have figured this out yesterday, as I could have grabbed a nice price swing. And it's not without some trepidation that I say "upgrade" from Calderon to Tinsley. That last time I made a similar "upgrade", it was from Kirilenko to Nowitzki. As it turned out, "upgrade" was wishful thinking.

Normally, I wouldn't drop someone (Calderon) on the first day of a back-to-back, but since Tinsley has the same sched, I guess there's no reason defer.

Tinsley holder/buyers - be very afraid!

JMISA
ID: 51115937
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 14:34

58

Yea i figured that we'd be back in last place after last night .... but the 11th is a big day and is a start of where everyone's team prepared for so hopefully with our 2nd highest FV we can make a serious push by the end of this tp to atleast claim 3rd place.

Our main differentation is we have more Barons and Boozers but i suspect the other squads holding Amare and Marion will get boozer tonight so its basicallly jus Baron. I'm going to pickup boozer tommorrow. I picked up Wade too so that evens us with the rest who have him.

What are the thoughts of the 2 calderon holders on our team are you waiting for thr B2B comin up to make a desicion.

Yehosh
Donor
ID: 181082023
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 16:04

Wade is a solid pick. Expect a huge game VS Washington on thursday, that should get him training. I can't fit him in, but he'll work out well for you.

Kal Zakath
ID: 269581213
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 17:02

Hey guys -

Is anyone thinking Dunleavy as a move from either Calderon (for those of us who have him) or another fairly cheap player? He's over 33 TSNP/G over the last 14 days, and has a schedule where you might be able to hold him til the second week in January.

Kal Zakath
ID: 269581213
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 17:23

On further review, I think I might wind up going Calderon/Marvin Williams to Jaric/Tinsley.

Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 17:38

Kal, I went Marvin->Tinsley on my non DL teams, seemed like a great move.

What are people doing with Kaman? I really (x10) want to hold him until the 19th if not xmas, but I'm afraid of massive RV losses since he starts a 2 in 6 on the 15th. So are you guys holding? or moving to Bynum on the 13th?

Kal Zakath
ID: 269581213
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 18:19

Yehosh -

Depends on what the next moves are - do you need some cash to get LeBron? Are you flush with cash and want to go bigger at C?

I'm seriously considering the move, as it frees up the cash to go whoever -> LeBron on the 14th.

kentucky indians
ID: 33892520
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 18:27

thinking Grant Hill to Marco Jaric tonight now that Foye is out another month.. will get me the cash to add Lebron early next week. Will have to skip Tinsley

Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 19:15

I think I'm skipping James, we'll see what happens tonight though

C. Bird
ID: 579542815
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 19:36

I finally moved Bass and used the cash I had to get Tinsley. i also moved Bogut for Deron. I would also like to hold Kaman as long as possible, but I am not prepared to take the losses so I will probably move him sooner than later. I am moving Baron and SJax next week for either Kobe or Wade and probably Bynum but now that Kwame is due back Sunday i may rethink that.

kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Tue, Dec 11, 2007, 19:53

Im thinking Baron to Wade on the 13th nets same production and generates more TSN$$!

JMISA
ID: 51115937
Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 00:11

KI it seems alot of people are thinking of moving baron ... goin to wade will def be a moneymaker

i am ridding rasheed tommorrow
ans ridding possibly Kaman-SJAX-moon (in that order on 13th)

i have 4 mill in the bank i think im guna go rasheed to deron / boozer tommorrow

then Kaman > Bynum

the other 2 im not so sure yet maybe S Jax > tinsely and hold moon

kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 07:00

with Kwame coming back I'm thinking maybe Shaq as an alternative to Bynum?? Not made my plans yet, just brainstorming.

ki @ work
ID: 2836246
Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 08:11

I hate jaric already!!!

JMISA
ID: 51115937
Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 08:50

with so many going sour highly owned players on everyones roster .... it seems there's going to be mass sell offs of everyone this week depleting all 4 trades we jus got very soon .... some managers who had saved trades may dig into their savings this weeek as well .... why dont we go over the matter now since most selloffs will begin tommorrow

People under consideration of being traded that our squad has many of (IMO in the order they should be considered)

1. Kaman
2. Kirilenko (i dont have)
3. J Moon
4. and 5. (Tie) S Jax + B davis
6. Udrih

1. Kaman is probably the most held person amongst the GMDers that will most likely start to leak tommorrow ... true he is the best producer for his price and points wise its def worth it to take a game for every 2 days but he looks like a must go tommorrow ... question is for who> bynum? shaq?

2. Kirelenko.....nuff said ... he sux ...some may wanna keep him since he still has his schedule to bank on but after last night's games i see major leakage on the way not to mention he is still the 4th most owned forward

3. Seems pointless to trade Moon as he used to be so consistent and has a great schedule for another week or so but he is the #1 owned forward and really underproduced lately and judging from other posts it seems many were waiting for the B2B to dump ... and last night wasn't a strong case for a hold .... there aren't many good cheapie options ... travis outlaw seems like a lateral + jaric was a bust last night ...telfair+dorrel wright may be options

4+5.

GSW still with great schedules til new years and both have been performin up to their averages but i think some people get scared at the high ownership of these 2 as they pretty much hit their peak prices ...i think there are those who are using baron as a possible entry way into LBJ or wade too so expect some losses tommorrow if u hold ...... S jax is in the same boat perhaps for a package deal with another cheapie/stud

6.
I didn't realize people were thinking of trading udrih already but apparently they are ... i saw him as more of a long term hold up through january (or whenevr bibby got back) .... i will probably hold but for those fearing RV losses it seems the 16th is when that will start big for udrih

Its good to see we rid our squad of calderon (even though he may start again via TJ ford injury last night) so i think that covers the possible trades that will happen this week

Thoughts on that ?

Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 09:52

Craig Smith is another possible cheapie replacement for Moon or Udrih - although he could turn out to be a big tease. I'd expect he'll escape gravity after last night's 46 TSNP.

Florian
ID: 167272717
Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 10:40

Wow is my team ever a mess. Wish I'd taken Tinsley instead of Ellis. I'd be up .5 million, have more points and not have to deal with the injured Ellis. Will trade him for Tinsley today.

That leaves me with many problems and only three trades left. I'll wait and see what happens with the games tonight before deciding what to do with Kaman, Kirilenko, Baron Davis, Jackson and Moon. I likely only have two trades to deal with all those problems as I really should keep one available in case of further injuries later this week. Any advice is welcome as my recent decisions all seem to be poor.

Sorry about my terrible team performance so far.

weykool
ID: 2842717
Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 12:53

Florian:

We all feel your pain.
The worst part about all the players on your/our list is that none of them NEED to be sold and there isnt that many clear must have replacements.
All of their schedules are decent.
Maybe a couple have been underperforming but I doubt the replacements will do that much better.
Many will move Kaman to Bynum but my guess is Kaman's 2 games will outscore Bynum's 3 games.
Aside from a little 1 in 4 Baron and Jackson can be held till January.
Well Lebron return to pre-injury form?
Is Wade really "back"?
Nobody is talking about the underperforming Brewer.
You could make the case that he needs to go before Moon needs to go.
What to do????.....this may be the week we seperate the men from the boys.

JMISA
ID: 51115937
Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 18:21

another quick question

i was going to trade Rasheed today and get boozer

but with all the kaman trade talk tommorow should i jus keep rasheed to fill the C spot or go get Bynum (kwame is back)

100

weykool
ID: 2842717
Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 20:23

JMISA:

The theme of the trading week is follow the money.
I would hold onto Rasheed.
He doesnt have that many owners.
We will all need to decide which players the losses are acceptable and hope that the gains from those we get will offset the losses.
My guess is if you can break even in the RV game this week you will be ahead of the game.

101

C. Bird
ID: 579542815
Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 21:32

JMISA, I agree with everything you said in post 95. I hate trading Kaman but it looks like a must at this point and unless AK puts up over 50 he is must go also. I think the GS players are holdable (SJax more so than Baron) I have been planning all along to move them both tomorrow for bynum and Kobe but with all the other players that may need to go I may hold one or both. Moon put up a 22. Decent for his price, if he falls in price tonight I will package him and cash in for sure. Like Weykool said its all about the money. The next step is figuring out who to pick up from all these players.

102

JMISA
ID: 51115937
Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 23:40

well i made a blunder today and traded rasheed for bosh > (i was suppsoed to get boozer but saeh e was already up 700k and bosh at 8.6 seemed liek a steal with 2 great games coming back from injury) i hope tonight was just a down night for him

that leaves me with a C spot open for Kaman tommorow meaning it looks like it will be bynum (bynum will be a huge train) that leaves me 5.5 million to use to either upgrade S Jax or Moon

suggestions anyone? i can only get a F or C unless i rid udrih instead of moon which is also a possibility as his shceudle dries up earlier then moons

Looking into tinsley / dorrel wright / barnes/ rudy gay / pryzabllia/ possbily boozer (groan)

104

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 10:16

Kaman=>Bynum
SJax=>Wade

That leaves me with 2 trades, and Moon and Udrih. I don't think SJax is as vulnerable pricewise (although last night's 12 TSNP won't help his cause), but I can't fit Wade from any of my cheaper players. I have no intention of dumping Baron - although I also never want to spend my last trade early with him on a roster.

I could flip Moon to someone (probably Dorell Wright), but I don't really want to get down to one trade on Thursday, so my tendency is to suck it up. However, if the team thinks it's worthwhile for me to make that move, I'll reconsider.

105

Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 10:20

I do note that Moon's game on Sunday is against Boston, against which he got 8.5 TSNP in 34 minutes last time. More reason for pause.

106

weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 11:01

Guru:

All of our teams will have the same questions to ask.
I think we will all need to decide what each of us are comfortable with.
I went:
Kaman to Bynum
Ellis to Wade
Moon to Dorrell

2 trades left and considering SJax to Gay.
Holding Baron and his losses.
Would be left with 1 trade and Brew/Udrih.
While leaving yourself with one trade is normally a bad thing this week is as stange a week as I can ever rememeber.
It isnt like we will see the price changes and see that any of the players we are holding took a surprize drop in price.
They will all lose, it's just a matter of how much.

107

ki @ work
ID: 2836246
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 14:08

I was planning Baron to Wade.. but planning on holding Kamen.. Kamen to anybody is a big downgrade. gotta work on a plan.

108

Florian
ID: 167272717
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 15:19

Have 3 trades left. Will save one (hopefully that's enough) for the inevitable injury.

Will trade Moon to Bynum with my first trade. It seems Moon will bleed heavily until his eventual must sell date on Dec 23rd. That leaves me with .25 million in cash.

Will hold Kirilenko as his schedule remains solid and Okur may miss some time providing more opportunities for Kirilenko.

Debating on using my other trade on
A. Kaman for Rudy Gay
B. Davis for Wade
C. Jackson for Gay
D. Being crazy and doing two of the three above trades leaving me tradeless on a Thursday

Leaning towards A. as Jackson and Davis both have the same good long-term schedule and are really being sold for money gains, while Kaman would have to be sold next week anyways.

Guru I'd move Moon to save the RV.

109

Florian
ID: 167272717
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 15:22

or option E

skip Bynum and trade Kaman/Moon to Wade and either Craig Smith or Przybilla

110

Kal Zakath
ID: 269581213
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 15:51

I'd do the Bynum thing - he should be big cashwise, and there just are not any centers at that price who are producing. While he is not putting up the points that Kaman is, he is more than $3 million less than him. That said, Brown's return could really cut into points for Bynum.

I'm going Kaman/Jackson to Wade/Bynum as well. Kaman is too highly owned for me to try to hold through after the Calderon thing earlier.

Not sure where to go for Moon, yet, but is anyone looking at Telfair? Just about 1 PPG less, but almost a million less than Smith.

111

Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 16:19

The ones that have AK, you holding him? or do you think I should sell him

112

weykool
ID: 2842717
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 16:22

I would hold AK.

113

Kal Zakath
ID: 269581213
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 16:28

I'm holding him. He was the other possible move into Wade, but I think that he will outscore and out-money Jackson over the next bit.

Will probably move him when I am ready to go to LeBron or the like (though with the current moves, that will take two trades).

I am assuming with all of this love for Wade that LeBron is not yet on anyone's radar.

114

Kal Zakath
ID: 269581213
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 16:33

My other option might be Moon -> Someone like Bogans.

This would give me enough to go from Davis, Boozer, or Howard (should one of them get hurt) straight to LeBron, though with a small window.

Thoughts?

115

Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 16:56

ok, final decision is (at least I hope it is final)

Kaman+SJax+Moon->Bynum+Tinsley+Gay

Good luck to those taking Dorrell, I think he is a good pick considering what is available out there.

It was either Wade+Wright or Tinsley+Gay. In Ultimate when in doubt, I say take the longer schedule.

116

C. Bird
ID: 5510211919
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 18:06

So far I've moved Baron/Kaman/Moon for Gay/Bynum/Wade. I wanted to move Jax for wade but he's a F on my team and guard spots were filled. Since Udrih has to be moved in two days anyway I'm leaning towards moving him for Telfair now to max the gains. That would leave me with 4 trades and SJax. I could move him for a F under 8.81. I am holding AK. No player jumps out at me and with all the others that are supposed to go I think his losses will be diluted. Any suggestions on the Telfair/SJax issue?

117

weykool
ID: 2842717
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 18:21

That would leave me with 4 trades and SJax.

Show off.

With all the other players needing to go I'm not sure Baron will bleed all that much.
I would make sure the move for points make sense.
For that reason I think AK can be held as well.
Another option might be to get Dorrell instead of Gay.....hold Baron and get Wade from SJax.
Just a suggestion but I defer to your judgement....you are the one holding the 4 trades.

118

C. Bird
ID: 5510211919
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 18:33

I wish I could but I don't have enough G slots.

119

C. Bird
ID: 5510211919
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 18:38

I could move Jax and AK for Lebron and Wright? I would then have two trades but all the price losers would be gone except maybe Brewer.

120

C. Bird
ID: 5510211919
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 18:43

...how about Udrih/Ak/Jax for Kobe/Wright/Maxiell

That would give me a team of

Kobe
Wade
Tinsley
Deron
Gay
Wright
Brewer
Max
Howard
Bynum

2 trades

I have a headache now.

121

weykool
ID: 2842717
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 18:45

CB:

I like your orginal plan better than moving AK.
Just thought I would give you some other options to consider.

122

kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 19:14

wow..no discussion of Lebron?

123

Yehosh
Donor
ID: 181082023
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 21:14

I'd love to get James, but only way is to sell Baron, and that would mean serious RV hit elsewhere and being tradeless. I needed to sell Sjax, Moon, Kaman and have a trade in case of injury.

124

kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 21:17

I traded
Kamen to Bynum
Moon to Telfair (swinging Brewer or Salmons to G)
Jameer to Wade
left with one trade ouch!

126

Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Fri, Dec 14, 2007, 16:49

anybody considering

Udrih->Webster/Outlaw on sunday?

I know Aldridge is back, but they start a 10 in 18 and all the worthwhile cheapies are crashing or will be crashing soon

127

Blooki
Sustainer
ID: 449292712
Fri, Dec 14, 2007, 17:15

Re: 126

I seem to recall a certain Yehosh on the TSN boards questioning my Outlaw pimping. That wouldn't happen to be you would it? ;)

128

weykool
ID: 2842717
Fri, Dec 14, 2007, 18:10

This is a different Yehosh.
The boards Yehosh likes Outlaw but he doesnt like pimps.

129

Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Fri, Dec 14, 2007, 20:42

Blooki, it was a totally different situatation. It's like saying buying Moon now is the same situation as 2 weeks ago.

On tuesday, half the league had back to backs and no cheapies needed selling yet. Moon still had a B2B to redeem himself and Udrih was a hold.

This Sunday, only GS and Portland have B2B and in reality, there are simply no cheapies available. Wright had a very disappointing game, which causes another option to get taken out of the equation.

Regardless, I'm not a fan of this move which is why I posted here asking for feedback about it. I think I'd rather take Daniels, who will probably produce close to 10 tsnp/g more

132

weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 10:49

We have 3 other Beno holders.
What are you guys doing with him?

133

Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 11:21

dont know

want to hold him, but I think the losses will be around 600K

134

Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 12:05

WK, decided to hold. I feel like injury season is just around the corder, I'm going to bank this trade and hold Udirh through this tough week.

135

Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 13:15

Holding Beno.

Now, what to do about Dorrell Wright...

136

Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 15:01

This is what I'm predicting Udirh dropping over hte next 7 days, I think it'll be over 600K, and I'm recosindering my move. A trade is worth 600K and although outlaw is not spectaclular, all he has to do is give me 20/g until the 4th.

150K - sunday
100K - monday
80K+ - tuesday
60K - Wednesday
150K - Thursday
60K - Friday
60K - Saturday
gains - sunday

WK, u holding or selling?

137

JMISA
ID: 51115937
Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 20:01

i kinda screwed myself this week in holding bdavis + jackson and i still have udrih ..... 1 trade left .... after udrih game yesterday im planning on holding but bdavis or sjax has to go they havent done anything spectacular since i held but the only time to sell at this point would be today or tommorrow then after that u might as welll hold them throughout their duration .... idk who to sell davis sjax or udrih

thoughts?

im leaning towards bdavis > tinsley or LBj

138

Kal Zakath
ID: 269581213
Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 20:25

Don't have Udrih, but have Davis....

Am wondering whether to go big from Davis with my last trade (i.e. D. Williams), or go really small which would let me go to LeBron or anyone else on Wednesday (possibly from AK depending on his performance tomorrow).

Other possibilities are mid range like Turkolu, and I don't have Gay yet. Don't have enough to go straight to LeBron, or would do it for tomorrow.

I think with the Gay move I can go AK -> LeBron.

139

JMISA
ID: 51115937
Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 22:12

so out of havin sjax and davis

u think BDAVIS > LBJ or Boozer be the best move

as oposed to taking a 500k hit SJAX into a 8 mill forward > there is no1 to get at 8mill and below that would stick out

140

weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Mon, Dec 17, 2007, 02:59

I ended up selling Beno for Telfair.
I can get him back from Brewer.
Just figured the losses would be too big to ignore.
Have really been focused on building RV so I dont need to have players that are cheap and inconsistent.
Didnt like Outlaw's short schedule.
Might take a hit on Baron but my guess is he gets more than his average, although I doubt he will be able to make up for today's game.
The plan is to hold Baron over this rough patch in the schedule barring injury.
The 350K price wing from Beno/Telfair should help soften the blow.

142

Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Mon, Dec 17, 2007, 18:15

took telfair as well, hopefully he continuous to produce with Foye out. I didn't have faith in Outlaw producing once Aldridge is back.

144

kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 21:38

At about 7:28pm in almost a move of desperation without much planning, I move Marco Jaric to Sean Williams. I'm counting 44TSNP for Sean tonight on his first game in the starting linup. I finally may have lucked into a good move!!!! Yeah!!!

145

kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 23:15

Over the next 25 days 3 teams play 13 games... Sean Williams and NJ play 12... It is announced yesterday that he is getting the starting job... He goes DOWN 20K tonight... What Friggin idiot would sell him today!! That is why I thought twice about playing this year!!!!!!

146

Blooki
Sustainer
ID: 449292712
Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 23:16

Calm down. It's called gravity.

147

kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 23:17

Sorry about that last post... had to vent a little... I feel much better now... thanks for listening!!!!

148

Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 07:56

If you are unsure what the column header means, hover over it with your mouse.
A pop up will display a longer definition of the header.

GURUPATRON BONUS MATERIAL
The following columns are sartible and reverse sartible.
Click on the column header once for the default sort order.
Click a second time for the reverse sort order.

Rank	GurupieName	LSWP0	LSWP	LSWP5	WWR	FV	Cash	RV	FVC	Trades
1	Yehosh-2949	5547.5	38	2729	231	68.52	0.82	67.70	-0.11	4
2	Kal Zakath-4430	5484.5	38	2548.5	250	68.00	0.54	67.46	-0.20	5
3	Coach Bird-1379	5444.5	38	2609.5	99	66.35	0.02	66.33	0.19	7
4	JMISA-6186	5433	90.5	2545.5	330	63.26	1.65	61.61	0.32	4
5	kentucky indians-2450	5292.5	134	2648	97	62.91	2.17	60.74	-0.05	4
6	Florian-6066	5274	38	2530	540	65.85	4.11	61.74	0.07	4
7	Weykool-4361	5219	38	2531.5	768	67.65	2.25	65.40	0.04	4
8	Guru-250	5176	50.5	2607	825	64.52	1.26	63.26	-0.03	5

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Terry
ID: 5675031
Wed, Aug 03, 2011, 02:50

Good to see a talnet at work. I can't match that.

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