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Subject: December 13 - December 20 Trade Thread


  Posted by: Qwerty123 - Sustainer [349431211] Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 11:31

Last night was a chance to evaluate a couple guys who will shape trade plans for this week. Did LeBron show enough to warrant a roster spot? Did Moon show too little to stay? There's practically nothing Kaman could do to stay, but he'll factor in as well.
 
1deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 11:33
It will be a fun week, that for sure.
Lets all sing:
We didnt start the fire...
 
2Qwerty123
      Sustainer
      ID: 349431211
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 11:41
To answer my own questions, LeBron was visibly affected by the injury being generally less aggressive, but still managed 1.26 TSNP per minute. Projected over his usual 38.8 minutes, and he was on pace for 49 TSNP. I'd expect his productivity to increase as he becomes more comfortable with the injury, but somewhat tempered by the returns of Hughes and Verajao. It's also questionable how soon he'll get back up to his usual number of minutes.

My prediction is that he'll get back to around 60 TSNP/g toward the end of his schedule, but will be in the 30's, 40's, and 50's as he works his way back into the flow. With that premise and the availabilty of other stud options, I'm not sure LeBron offers the best use of trades and money now, but I'm open to arguments to the contrary.

Moon most likely needs to go, but I'll probably wait until tomorrow to combine him with Kaman.
 
3Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 12:54
What a wild week this is going to be with an incredible amount of sales pressure on a variety of players:

Kaman - an absolute steal at his price. #9 in TSNP/g for the year and easily the most efficient player over 35 TSNP/g - and he's putting up a stud-like 43.8. Usually there's little reason to drop such a stud early, but tomorrow will be ugly.

S. Jackson - again a steal at his price, for the entire year he is the first player on the TSNP/g sort that is more efficient than Kaman (barely). GSW's schedule, over a 3-week period, is still right up there. While he has slacked off some lately, I have MUCH bigger fish to fry and will have to eat his losses.

Davis - The best guard in TSN by YTD points. Nobody in the game has more games over the next 3 weeks than him......why on earth are people looking to trade him in the midst of so many other question marks?? Sure I could use Player X or Player Y who maybe has a more concentrated schedule over these 3 weeks, but if you already have him how can you consider trading him?

Moon - he starts a 7 in 11 stretch, and at 24.4 TSNP/g for the year, it seems insane to trade him.....but that's a drop I don't think I can stomach.

Kirilenko - originally thought to be a must by many, a return to his 35+ TSNP/g ways seemed a guarantee. After teasing us while Boozer was out, he has regressed and is a big problem.

Calderon - even when Ford plays, he still seems to rack up 25+ per night. Again he's in a 7 in 11, but most have already jumped off and tomorrow could be the precipise.

Udrih - 25.9 TSNP/g over 14 games w/SAC off of the waiver wire is pretty impressive. He's cheap, gets minutes and is fairly consistent. A hole in the schedule teases danger....do you have the stomach to hold?

There are more, but man, I can hardly remember a more difficult time, with the clashing of new hot schedules coming into the midst of decent schedules for long-term holds (i.e. GSW players). NO MATTER WHAT, we are all going to eat SOMEBODY'S losses.....who will you choose to grin and bear it?
 
4jedman
      ID: 59012312
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 13:45
Amen brother. You stated some of my feelings exactly. In a normal world, I wouldn't have to sell hardly anybody for schedule purposes this week, but I am going to have to figure out where I want to lose money. I have 6 trades and easily could not use one if I didn't care about money, only schedule. The GS sell-off just baffles me. I really think people just want to have somebody new on their roster because the grass is always greener. I do believe Kaman will equal or outpoint Bynum in the next 5 games he plays to Bynum's 7. Is Craig Smith or Dorrell Wright really going to outscore Moon or Brewer and by how much. How much is a trade worth? I've never seen a time in TSN that I can remember when so many guys with good schedules are on the chopping block. Good luck to everybody, may 1/2 your decisions be right:-)
 
5Mac Daddy
      ID: 24115245
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 15:53
I took a good hard look at my team yesterday before trading Wade to Boozer with my last trade. I decided I am keeping Baron and Jackson until January. Their schedule is so good. I also have Brewer, Boozer and Deron and I am holding them until the first week in January.
Tomorrow, I am turning Kaman and Moon into a cheapie and Wade. I'm thinking Shawne Williams because he fits but could be swayed any number of ways, as I need roughly a million from dropping Moon. I figure Kaman and Moon need to be sold next week anyway, so I don't mind trading them now. Leaves me with Baron, Deron, Wade, Brewer, Boozer, Jackson, Bass and Shawne Williams, Pryzbilla and Howard. I've had Brewer and Pryz forever.
I think I'm avoiding trades Xmas week.
I'm surprised at the amount of people discussing dropping the GS players and the people thinking about buying Bynum. I could see Kobe, but Bynum is a two week hold and Kwame is supposedly coming back. Just seems very short term for not many points. Especially with the anmount of trades I'm seeing for that first week in January.
 
6Soulman
      Donor
      ID: 016105313
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 15:56
... but that's a drop I don't think I can stomach.

Species, I agree on most aspects of your analysis but I don't see why any drop on Moon should be set in stone. I rather agree with your statement that at his price/production "it seems insane to trade him".

I know many have written they consider dropping Moon but I always wonder whom for? Outlaw? Wright? Smith? C'mon, I mean all these guys have written "flash in the pan" right across their forehead.

So my hope is everybody keeps calm and goes for the moves that gain games and thus have a better chance of making extra TSNP than any Moon>sub-3m-scrub would have. And yes, I would have a spare trade if necessary so that's not the reason for my plea to hold Moon through his schedule. ;)
 
7deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 16:01
I would love to keep Moon, and really hope he does well tonight, would be one problem less, as for GSW, I am holding Jax/Baron untill further notice. Sked is just fine.
 
8Mac Daddy
      ID: 24115245
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 16:06
I would be fine holding Moon. I just need the extra cash to get back into Wade. With Moon's schedule running dry on the 23rd along with his subpar for him production the past few days, he was the only guy I wanted to drop. Maybe something happens with Brewer that makes me change my mind tonight but I doubt it. I wish I could get the difference from Bass and hold Moon until January.
 
9tothreeball
      Dude
      ID: 09118139
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 16:35
I see a resemblence of the GS potential selloff to what happened around this time last year with Randolph and Jarret Jack. Both had been producing well but began selling off well before the schedule dried up. The problem was as top owned players once it started, it was a continual slow bleed. I took over $1M RV hit while the players continued to produce. As a comparison I think SJax and Baron are providing better production, with a longer schedule compared to last years Portland players. It will be interesting to watch this week. Later in the year, I don't think many would consider selling any of the 6 players Species mentioned in #3.
 
10Headless Gunners
      ID: 19282419
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 16:48
HELP...Somehow, On one of my teams I Al Jefferson'd myself into this:
I was originally looking to move Stoudamire & Moon after tonight until Amare's price fell through the floor.
Now I'm left with:
Stoudamire & Moon TODAY, leaving both their point totals (I lead that league by a mere 60 points).
I get WHO ?
It was going to be LeBron & the Heat's Quinn but my window is now left to 20 which will dry up tonight.
Howard, Kobe, Jazzmen...I messed the bed...what to do ?
 
11JMISA
      ID: 51115937
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 16:53
9:

That is going to be the biggest debte over the next 2 weeks ... why and when to trade the GS players .... both are great producers for their price and both have potential for phenomenal games yet they are both too highly owned to feel safe ..... i think for a safe bet most people who are cautious of RV should jus pick 1 and trade and hold the other (thats what im going to do) which leads to another big debate in "Which GS to trade" (jus be happy if you don't have ellis too as that would really be a sucky question for u) i guess it all comes down to what option you have in mind > a stuf for baron or a good priced for SJAx > Sjax does have the mauneveablity of a GF though
 
12Yehosh
      ID: 2910291321
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 17:09
I'm with DJ on this one, I think I may hold Baron and Jackson until further notice.
 
13Yehosh
      ID: 2910291321
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 17:14
Is anyone considering Rudy Gay on the 13th?

He has one less game then Indy over the next 3 weeks, followed by a very nice 2 week schedule.

4.2M, G/F, producing over 30 tsnp/g. Considering the fact that there aren't that many great cheap players out there, is anyone considering this guy?
 
14deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 17:17
hes an option yehosh.
 
15Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 17:22
Soulman #6 - I may be paranoid but Moon has such a tremendous amount of space to fall, having made nearly $1.7 million so far and being the most widely owned forward, sometimes once the snowball starts rolling down the hill, it can't be stopped.

LOL - Looking at this Ownership Info page for the first time certainly scares me. I own the 5 highest owned guards, and Tinsley as well at #8...I own the 3 highest owned forwards and the highest owned center (and will own the 2nd highest, Bynum, tomorrow most likely!). SCARY!
 
16Yehosh
      ID: 2910291321
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 17:24
Species, that's the price we pay for making RV, and I know you're up there in RV
 
17Skip To My Lou
      ID: 538101711
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 17:41
I'm a little surprised by the referenes to caution about Bynum. Do we really think that the return of .. ahem ... Kwame. Brown. is a meaningful factor of concern for his production? When I run the sartibles, his $4.3 million salary practically jumps off the page among the highly ranked.

Maybe I'm dumb, but I'm moving enthusiastically into Bynum.
 
18weykool
      ID: 2842717
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 18:39
Skip:
I dont think the move to Bynum is what is being questioned.
As good as Bynum can and no doubt will be, Kaman has been even better.
If you are moving out of someone like Bogut then Bynum is easily a no brainer.
 
19qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 18:41
I do think Kwame is a consideration though.

Now I don't think anyone in the world other than Phil Jackson would let Kwame take mintues away from Bynum...unfortunately PJ is the only one who matters and he seems to have a thing for Kwame...and a bit of a tough love approach with Bynum.
 
20reebbertxx
      Leader
      ID: 561124720
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 19:08
17,18,19

I'm not a huge fan of Bynum and also think Kwame will be a factor, but it will be a minimum 300k swing between Kaman and Bynum tomorrow alone. Couple that with the fact that Kaman has to go in the next week anyways it's a no brainer imo.
 
21weykool
      ID: 2842717
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 19:59
reebbert:
I am not questioning that there will be a major price swing.
The question is why will there be a price swing?
If everyone was playing the game to maximize points the right move would be to hold onto Kaman for as long as possible.
Those who made a similar move from Howard to Bogut a couple weeks back didnt make out so well.
I know this isnt exactly the same situation but there are some similarites.

Kaman to Bynum is a pure RV move.
I understand the need to make/preserve RV and recognize the trend in recent years to sell players early.
However, at some point the trend needs to be reversed or we will be faced with players needing to go because the schedule turns bad in 3 weeks and we dont want to lose any money by holding someone "who needs to go soon anyways".
 
22jedman
      Dude
      ID: 315192219
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 20:17
I think with the flurry of trading this week, there are going to be a lot of us who are gonna wish we saved the trades. Jaric,Telfair,D. Wright, C. Smith, Outlaw are just a few names that I think will end up causing some problems, all for the need to have Wade and LBJ instead of the likes of Kaman, Jackson, and Baron.

Kaman is having another very nice game. Does he really have to go tomorrow? Moon has had a nice first half, if it continues, why does he have to be sold?

A very interesting week indeed.
 
23reebbertxx
      Leader
      ID: 561124720
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 20:43
Weycool,

I agree with everything you said in 21. Unfortunately holding players until the end of their schedule is not the reality of this game, at least before christmas. I learned that the hard way my first year two years ago. The problem with reversing the trend is nobody wants to be the one stuck holding big money losers when there are gainers to be had,thus the lemming effect. I'm sure long before I heard of this game that the money used to actually follow the points and it would be refreshing to get back to that at some point. Until then we can only play the hand that we are dealt.
 
24dpr
      ID: 1733917
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 20:51
yea the belief that players lose money before their schedule ends as definitely became a self-fulfilling prophecy
 
25 MrBallaholic
      ID: 1311121022
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 23:38
Kaman, Baron, S. Jax, ak47 ===> Wade, Lebron, Bynum, D. Wright
 
26Skip To My Lou
      ID: 28991818
      Wed, Dec 12, 2007, 23:55
I understand some leaking from SJax, he's at least been a bit up and down (though mostly up), but parting with Baron and Kaman as soon as tomorrow seems like madness to me. I somewhat understand it for those who have Howard and Kaman, and can't get to Bynum but through Kaman (I have all three). But Kaman is still going to outpoint every center other than Howard over the next 10 days.

As for Baron, he plays the same number of games as LeBron over the next 8 days, costs a million dollars less, isn't hurt or coming off an injury (knock wood) and is rolling: 47.5 through 3 quarters tonight.
 
27 Mrballaholic
      ID: 1311121022
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 00:01
Baron is going to be sold because he is the only out for people for Wade.
 
28jedman
      Dude
      ID: 315192219
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 00:05
SJax poor game tonight has just sealed his fate. Anyody who was on the fence just hopped over to the sell side.
 
29Skip To My Lou
      ID: 28991818
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 00:06
Okay, so somebody forecast the losses of the following players of me tomorrow night and (at least roughly) through the weekend: Baron, Kaman, SJax and Moon. Obviously, not everyone can trade each of these guys, and Moon's schedule remains good.
 
30Skip To My Lou
      ID: 28991818
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 00:11
You are probably right about that, jedman, and I can live with it. If I have to make 3 trades, I'm leaning Marion, Kaman, Jackson>>>LeBron, Wade and Telfair. I gather that a lot of people are high on Dorrell Wright, but I like the way Telfair is getting his tsnps (high assists and steals). Good call by those who bought tonight.
 
31qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 00:12
Kaman -180
Jackson -160
Moon and Baron -120
 
32wongyjongy
      ID: 141035113
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 00:13
i decided to keep sjackson, bdavis, udrih, brewer, and jaric.

decided to go: moon, kaman, ellis -> lebron, bynum, and blatche.

sjackson underperformed today, but my plan is to keep him at least until end of this year. i think he will deliver. well, baron davis, i dont think there's a reason to sell davis other than to free up money to go lebron. udrih, he needs to go come this saturday. i dunno, i might change my mind and sell udrih before freeze tomorrow.

moon, i can keep him for another week, but i'm afraid he's going to lose too much money. plus he's supposedly injured. and i should have traded ellis... only if i had time to check the yahoo boxscore! yes,i'm getting blatche even though he has 1 in 5 coming up. i don't have money to go anyone else...... and he's good for hte money...

anyway, i don't think i know what i'm doing so feedback appreciated....
 
33qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 00:16
Moon's not injured...he played all game and had a solid output
 
34wongyjongy
      ID: 141035113
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 00:17
32

btw, here's my team after the trade:

Davis, B
Wade, D
Jackson, S
Udrih, B
James, L
Blatche, A
Jaric, M
Brewer, R
Bynum, A
Howard, D

Also I have a lot of trades left: 7.
 
35wongyjongy
      ID: 141035113
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 00:19
33 I know he played today, but wasn't he a game-time decision going in?
 
36wongyjongy
      ID: 141035113
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 00:21
If you would like to chat about rhia, I am on google chat as "wongyjongy@gmail.com"

thanks
 
37Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 00:50
Who does everyone think is the big gainer tomorrow and over the next week or so, Wade or Kobe?
 
38Skip To My Lou
      ID: 28991818
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 00:53
Funny you should mention that, Dave R. I think Kobe is a forgotten man in all of this. I think he will see some buys, but far fewer than either Wade or LeBron.
 
39jedman
      Dude
      ID: 315192219
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 01:08
Well, after pulling my best Senator Urine impression and running a whole lot of different scenarios, I might be the only dummy who will have no Wade,Kobe, or Lebron. My best projected team keeps Kaman and dumps SJax,Moon, and McDyess for Gay,Bynum, and D. Wright. The Moon>Wright is just mostly for the money to offset the inevitable Kaman losses that will come. I can get Bynum/Gay/Wade from Kaman/SJax/Calderon. That leaves me with 150K in cash and holding McDyess and Moon. The projected points are about 100 less than the above team going out to 12/23. That's a lot of days and there is probably a chance Wade's average will be more than the last 15 days I used. I just hate having only 150K in cash for when I want to do something with Moon and McDyess. Gotta sleep on it, but I need to make a decision early tomorrow because I may be gone before the first game starts.
 
40Mac Daddy
      ID: 24115245
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 06:11
Who goes down more over the next week or so -- Moon or Stephen Jackson?
 
41turnabouts
      ID: 461061517
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 06:22
40

I think Moon because

a) he have to go next week anyway and
b) he is more owned than S-Jax and
c) S-Jax will probably gain money back beginning 12/22

A problem can be yesterdays bad game from S-Jax but i tend to hold him and trade Moon today.
 
42SU in Fresno
      ID: 481143137
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 08:49
Holding Action Jackson. That schedule is just too good and I'm short on trades. Even if I had them, nothing really makes sense. Going with a team of:

Baron, Wade, Tinsley, Udrih
Boozer, Jackson, Wright, Brewer
Howard, Bynum

One trade left, maybe I'll go tradeless and move Udrih mid-week. Meh.
 
43Bluntkillers
      ID: 3411141311
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 12:29
dude Bynum is bad news, he will have good games until Sunday when Kwame Brown comes back I guarantee it. Phil Jackson is on Kwame's nuts because of his "size and defensive prowess" so he will definintely cut into his minutes...good luck with him...I will hold Kaman until tuesday.
 
44Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 13:13
SU #42 - I will have the exact same roster, except for Rudy Gay in place of Wright.
 
45Qwerty123
      Sustainer
      ID: 349431211
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 13:27
Not to throw another wrench in things, but is anyone considering Przybilla instead of Bynum? The extra money might come in handy.

I'm thinking about Kaman and Moon to Przybilla and Wade. Prz has been in the 30's since Aldridge went out with Plantar Fascitis, which can linger a long time (kept Nocioni out most of 2nd half last year. It also avoids the Kwame uncertainty and the need to sell Bynum right after Christmas. I'm undecided myself, but it's more food for thought.
 
46deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 13:28
You have a point Qwerty.
 
47Soulman
      Donor
      ID: 016105313
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 13:58
#45
To be honest, Przybilla seems to be a hold for a max of four games, not more. That's not nearly enough with the current trade frenzy going on. IMHO, Portland's schedule nullifies any potentially good production their players could have. And as experienced earlier this season, Przybilla's production is far from safe. So I think he absolutely is not viable option.
 
48Adam
      ID: 124532213
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 14:03
wade and bynum seem like the biggest money makers for sure.

after lebron's last game and his injury i don't think he is going to make a lot of money and he is only a keeper for 7 days.
 
49Mac Daddy
      ID: 24115245
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 19:07
Kaman and Moon to Wade and Louis Williams. Save all my guys with good schedules and I can wait out the Sixers bad schedule and hold him through the new year.Haveing Pryzbilla means I don't have to get a center from Kaman.
 
50jedman
      Dude
      ID: 315192219
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 19:50
I am maybe the only guy in TSN holding Kaman and not getting Wade. I sliced and diced my team 10 diffeent ways and I'm going to try and maximize points and mitigate dollar losses as much as I can while still holding Kaman.

Moon/McDyess/Jackson>D. Wright/Bynum/Gay.

Leave me 3 trades and 1040 in cash for any future moves. Leaves me as a team

Tinsley,Baron,Brewer,Calderon
Howard,Boozer,Gay,Wright
Kaman,Bynum

That team gives me the best projected points and dumps some of the big losers tonight. I am counting on Kaman to continue to produce stud-like numbers and Tinsley as well. Probably wishful thinking, but I don't want to have Wade, hold some other losers and only have 120K in cash.

Should be an interesting week. Usually when I differentiate this much, I screw myself. Species and I are going to check our RV numbers over the next week and see how much more he makes than me as he is taking the aggressive approach down to one trade and little cash.
 
51Headless Gunners
      ID: 19282419
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 20:00
Jedman
Not the only one holding Kaman x5
 
52jedman
      Dude
      ID: 315192219
      Thu, Dec 13, 2007, 20:04
HG, I hope you are a lucky man in life:-)
 
53Adam
      ID: 124532213
      Sat, Dec 15, 2007, 13:57
selling moon today for humphrey because that will free up cash and I may be able to keep hump for a long time if he produces solidly.
 
54Blooki
      Sustainer
      ID: 449292712
      Sat, Dec 15, 2007, 14:01
Big if in my opinion. I worry Bargnani's return will send him back into the sub-20 TSNP/g region.
 
55CJ
      Leader
      ID: 499271021
      Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 08:38
craig smith or Maxiell?
 
56qwert
      Donor
      ID: 2910242819
      Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 08:59
outlaw
 
57wongyjongy
      ID: 141035113
      Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 15:51
udrih -> telfair x3
 
58The Bandwagon
      Sustainer
      ID: 479521116
      Sun, Dec 16, 2007, 16:58
Anyone looking at Darko from Beno? I know he hasn't been as good pre-injury, but Pau is out atleast a week, and Darko could be held to 1/15. I really feel he is a legit 25 TSNP's per game with Pau in the line-up and would help out when Bynum has to go after Christmas.

I really want someone that I don't have to worry about selling next week because of high ownership etc etc.
 
59CJ
      Leader
      ID: 499271021
      Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 10:03
I looked at my Financial report on my team and I have lost major cash on three of my biggest TSNP getters. Baron -210 Jax -360 Kaman -480

Now who on CHI is worth having?
 
60deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 10:11
Prolly Hinrich CJ, but not for me.
 
61jedman
      ID: 59012312
      Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 14:14
Baron>Kobe for me today unless I hear something negative about Kobe's groin.

Thank you Baron, you have been a stud.
 
62wqrtyt
      ID: 4211441816
      Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 17:51
Don't Baron and Kobe have basically the same schedule?
 
63deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 17:53
5 Kobe vs 3 Baron is not the same I think.
 
64Bluntkillers
      ID: 141131817
      Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 18:10
cant get myself to trade Baron for some reason, maybe because I am a warriors fan, so I went Deron --> Hinrich
 
65kentucky indians
      ID: 611511118
      Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 18:37
dejay... 5 Kobe vs 3 Baron assumes you can trade spots in your roster every 8 days!!!
The SECOND eight days it will 6 Baron vs 2 Kobe!!
 
66jedman
      ID: 59012312
      Tue, Dec 18, 2007, 18:50
Or back to Baron from another spot, like Kaman if you have the cash.
 
67deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 04:53
65

yes of course, i had kobe already btw.
Kobe goes nice into Paul , someone told me :)
 
68Blooki
      Sustainer
      ID: 449292712
      Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 17:13
Beno Udrih => Nazr Mohammed

Somebody talk me out of it and suggest alternatives.

Only $1.89mil to spend on a replacement at any position.
 
69deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 17:33
Louis Williams if he plays.
 
70Blooki
      Sustainer
      ID: 449292712
      Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 17:44
Too bad he's not a starter and I won't know the answer to that 'if' until it's too late.
 
71Blooki
      Sustainer
      ID: 449292712
      Wed, Dec 19, 2007, 17:45
BTW deejay, I hear you use AIM. I'm guessing you're blocking me because I never see you online. Would you mind adding me? Screen name: Blooki
 
72Bond, James Bond
      Sustainer
      ID: 04352469
      Thu, Dec 20, 2007, 15:51
I reckon that Tinsley is a must sell now. Thigh injuries are problemsome for any player, let alone one that needs his legs as much as Tinsley does. I suspect he'll drop major $$$ tonight.
 
73Bond, James Bond
      Sustainer
      ID: 04352469
      Thu, Dec 20, 2007, 15:54
68....Blooki....Nazr looked good last night. I think that's one of the few times I've ever said that with a straight face. ;)

His price is sweet and his newly coveted starting spot in Charlotte should lend many to pick him up soon---especially with their nice schedule coming up.
 
74Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Dec 21, 2007, 10:19
Bynum/Kaman recap:

Since Dec 13
Bynum: 184 TSNP. +$910K
Kaman: 138.5 TSNP, -$840K

Admittedly, Kaman plays the next 2 nights, while Bynum plays only once, so the point gap could disappear. But if you followed the crowd with this one, you can't be disappointed.
 
75cj
      Leader
      ID: 499271021
      Fri, Dec 21, 2007, 10:36
Ya and I did not follow. Still hanging on and probably wish after that stat you posted I would love to do it all over.