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| Posted by: weykool
- Leader [41750315] Thu, Jan 03, 2008, 02:05
No moves were made for this waiver period as I'm hoping we can repeat our 1st place finish again.
There should be plenty of roster turnover on our individual teams as many long term players have schedules that are coming to an end and others that have dense schedules. |
| | | 1 | JMISA
ID: 51115937
Thu, Jan 03, 2008, 06:47
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Okay guys....talk me down from the ledge.
I have 5 trades.
Thinking of going:
Baron to Nash
Howard to Amare
Boozer to Hill
Nazr to Duncan
Holding:
Iggy/Salmons/Jian/Telfair/Dalem/Gerald
in response to this from the last thread
all those trades are def good as we talkd bout I went Duncan + Amare too
only thing you don't HAVE to do is baron > Nash unless you need some extra money to make the other moves since Nash + Baron play the same amount of games (like we said about S Jax + Duncan) except that i give the big game advantage to Baron and the consistency advantage to Nash ... up to u
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| | | 2 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Thu, Jan 03, 2008, 10:29
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Okay here is my dilema.
I can hold baron and forgo getting Hill, but I dont have the cash to go TD back to Howard.
If I go Baron to Hill I would have the cash but that means being locked into using my last trade next Tuesday.
Decisions.
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| | | 3 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Jan 03, 2008, 14:07
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I think I'll move Nazr/Howard to Bynum/Stoudemire today.
That leaves 3 trades.
Paul will probably move back into Howard.
That leaves 2.
If all else goes well, I could then upgrade Maxiell to Calderon on Sunday. Another alternative would be to move Maxiell to Hill today. But I'm not keen on getting down to only one unplanned trade on a Thursday, especially with guys like Wade & Baron on the roster.
Next week, I would have to do something with Wade (assuming he survives that long), and then I'd also expect to move Bynum to Kaman at the end of the week (Jan 15).
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| | | 4 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Jan 03, 2008, 14:11
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BTW, since I'm skipping Duncan, everyone else should feel confident in picking him up.
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| | | 5 | C. Bird
ID: 5510211919
Thu, Jan 03, 2008, 15:33
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How sold are you guys on Bynum? Do you think that he had two bad games against two good D's or is this what he's going to be like now that Kwame's back? I have 8 trades and I am not sure that he is worth a pick up for such a short term? I am looking at:
Howard -- TD
Nazr -- Amare
Brewer -- Hill
AJeff -- Salmons/Bynum??
I also would like to get out of Telfair early and bank the $1M plus I've made.
Later in the week it would be:
CP -- Kobe
TD -- Howard
AI -- ?? (i'll need to get $$ for the TD -- Howard move)
That would leave next week having to move Kobe and Bynum if I get him. What do you guys think about Bynum?
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| | | 6 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Jan 03, 2008, 16:19
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I do think there is some point risk with Bynum, although I don't think you should read too much into recent games vs. Boston and Utah. In particular, a lot of players have put up substandard results vs. Boston.
I had hoped to be able to wait for another few days to assess the situation before getting him, but Nazr has forced the issue. That also makes Bynum a big price beneficiary for the next few days (out of Howard and particularly Nazr, barring a complete meltdown.
Even if the points turn out to be disappointing, I think the gains should be worthwhile. And at least he won't stink it up tonight, since the Lakers don't play until tomorrow.
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| | | 7 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Thu, Jan 03, 2008, 18:27
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C.Bird:
I will not be getting back into Bynum because the shcedule is a tad short.
Anyone who has watched the Lakers knows the problem is not Bynum but Phil Jackson.
I dont know what more Bynum needs to prove to not be concerned about looking over his shoulder at Kwame.
The Lakers made a bad move and need to move on.
The future is Bynum....get what you can from Kwame and call it a day.
That being said I think Bynum's production should be decent but probably not the same when Kwame is out.
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| | | 8 | kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Thu, Jan 03, 2008, 18:34
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howard and nazr to amare and hill.. down to two trades... already have duncan
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| | | 9 | C. Bird
ID: 5510211919
Thu, Jan 03, 2008, 18:58
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I ended up going Howard/Nazr/Brewer/AJeff to Hill/TD/Amare/Bynum.
I will hold Telfair until the end of the week.
I will move CP to Kobe (most likely), TD/AI to Howard & ?? on Tuesday.
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| | | 11 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 10:03
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Happy with my Rv gains yesterday but not all that happy with Hill.
I was going to undo and switch to JRich but the undo had passed.
Hill should do well enough and can be held for long time.
I need to dodge a couple of bullets with Jian and being left with one trade to move TD.
I know it was a big gamble but if it works it could pay off huge.
I will move Telfair after the refresh.
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| | | 12 | JMISA
ID: 51115937
Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 11:11
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in my trade calculations for this week i completly forgot Paul had to go already ..... i was 50/50 on getting howard back sincei don't have a clear entry into him (traded iverson early)
So basically on the possible trade block this week is Paul + Wade (possibly before his b2b)
What is the consensus move from Paul?
I see alot of Kobe's?
I was thinking Gerard Wallace as he is producing great .. has a better schedule then Kobe and most importantly frees me up the 2 million i need for Howard again.
Thoughts on the paul move? do you think gerard's train is a few days too late to jump on?
he is now the #5 owned forward
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| | | 13 | JMISA
ID: 51115937
Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 11:14
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also Kobe + Bynum for a 9 day hold on both? where are people pulling trades from .. or you guys must have real confidence in your cheapies =)
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| | | 14 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 11:19
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When you are trade challenged you need to get holds for longer than 9 days.
I would look to CHA or MIL or another Sun.
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| | | 15 | JMISA
ID: 51115937
Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 11:30
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yea .... 2 days ago u tol me to stray away from gerard tho because he is too high now .... i see my best long term options from paul to be either Gerard or tony Parker .... nash could work too but paul's schedule doesnt go into Phoenix's directly
so its either Gerard or Parker its looking like .... Memphis schedule starts great too after the b2b but is anyone looking at Gasol he is at a 37.5 15 day avg for 8.8 mill
Mo williams is a good option too from ppl who don't have him out of paul .. i alredy picked him up though
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| | | 16 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 11:34
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I had planned to move Paul to Howard, which is one reason I avoided Duncan.
I had no plans for Kobe, even though he'll probably be the popular route out of Paul.
I've gotta confess, however, that I'm second guessing whether a return to Howard is really necessary. After his 4-in-5 (all on the road), his schedule is pretty weak (6 in the next 14, and not a speck of green for the rest of the entire season). If he keeps up his pace, he's probably worth it for awhile, but after a quick burst of gains, he's unlikely to hold his value.
So if I'm avoiding Kobe because of the short tenure, maybe Howard isn't the best alternative.
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| | | 17 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 11:40
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I could possibly squeeze in Paul/Maxiell=>Mo Will/G.Wallace on Sunday, depending on interim price movement.
Talk about having a roster full of DNP risks! They do have the best schedule outlooks, but how likely is it that they can stay active and productive throughout?
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| | | 18 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 11:40
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[that was a rhetorical question, of course...]
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| | | 19 | JMISA
ID: 51115937
Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 11:46
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Yea i hadnt iniitally planned the need to go back to Howard .... its more of a sentiment thing ... i realized barring a few off days ive had howard on my team the whole season .... his numbers have been down and his schedule is only worthwhile for his 4in5 in the road really .... i think its a $$ desicion though as he will gain a significant amount back but i wouldn't care much to not weasel a way back into him either
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| | | 20 | C. Bird
ID: 5510211919
Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 13:46
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It has been my opinion all along that Wallace is overvalued and I was going to stay away. So far this has been my biggest mistake of the season. I am considering moving into him but that fact that he is so highly owned and most of his money is past will probably be enough to keep me away. In my experience in this game it is generally a bad move to move into a widely held player late.
I am going with Kobe from CP because I get the greatest number of games and I have the trades. If I didn't have 4 at this point I would probably skip him.
Regarding getting back into Howard, I can see your point but for those that made the move to TD, it only makes sense to make the move back to Howard (if you have the $$) You can get 6 Howard games to 3 TD games over the same period and he fits perfectly back into TD once those 6 games are over. It is a 3 game advantage for one trade, which is a no-brainer to me.
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| | | 21 | JMISA
ID: 42023413
Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 14:25
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yea C bird i was looking at that rotation just now
What about for those of us that can triangle back into Howard without TD ..... you think td is holdable for that low game stretch or you think he will lose toomuch
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| | | 22 | ki @ work
ID: 2836246
Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 16:15
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I think we need to see how Duncan performs to gauge how holdable he is... I skipped Chris Paul and I'm not surprised that he has performed well; I am, however, shocked that he has sustained buying of over $700K for his short hold.
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| | | 24 | C. Bird
ID: 41055623
Fri, Jan 04, 2008, 18:55
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Yeah, it will depend on how well he plays. If I could get back into Howard from another player and TD is playing at or above par I would probably hold him. I think he will make back any losses that may occur.
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| | | 25 | kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Sat, Jan 05, 2008, 08:57
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Feeling better about Duncan this morning... A little worried about Grant Hill... Trade challenged with only two left... I hate wasting trades on cheapies! Bought Beno on 12/23 and decided on 12/26 I didn't need a cheapie and turned him into Jamael Tinsley who I traded 4 days later!!! Bought Shawn Williams on 12/18 and decided on 12/22 that Nazr Mohammed was a "must have!" ARRGGHH!!! Held Marco Jaric from 12/11 to 12/18! Jameer Nelson -- bought on 12/9 sold on 12/13!!!! Marvin Williams was in on 11/29 out on 12/7.
AND THAT IS JUST LOOKING BACK THRU DECEMBER!!
Need you guys to help talk me off the ledge! My two cheapies dejoure are Telfair and McDyess who both have schedules that are drying up.. Thinking of using that Tuesday Tim Duncan to Dwight Howard trade (who is only a five day hold!) to trade Telfair to.....
I cann't believe I'm saying this (been using the sortables this morning)... Seattle Supersonic.... Kurt Thomas???
Did my wife slip something in my drink last night? I swear I didn't even open a beer last night!!!
Thomas looks like a 35 day upgrade to me?
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| | | 27 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sat, Jan 05, 2008, 11:31
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Only one trade with Telfair and TD.
I knew that going agressive wouldnt be without risk although thus far the RV rewards have been great.
950K the last two days.
It seems the bank wants me to pay back some of that loan I took out.
Here is my dilema.
Do I suck up the Telfair losses and go TD to Howard as planned?
Or do I move Telfir for either Bynum or JRich and suck up the TD losses?
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| | | 28 | JMISA
ID: 42023413
Sat, Jan 05, 2008, 11:47
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ATTN GURU:
what are we going to do with Wade?
Im in a pickle i cant directly goto nash .... im thinking kidd/marion
im also screwed with the TD>Howard
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| | | 29 | JMISA
ID: 42023413
Sat, Jan 05, 2008, 11:50
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i could package with paul tonight and give up his game and get Nash/ Kidd or Nash/Marion would this be smart?
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| | | 30 | C. Bird
ID: 41055623
Sat, Jan 05, 2008, 12:00
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Weykool, I would eat the Telfair losses to make the TD -- Howard move. Your RV is solid enough to take the hits. I think that the TD/Howard move is going to be worth too many points to pass up.
As for me I am going to concede that I made a mistake not getting Wallace sooner and get him from Paul. I was going to get Kobe but I need to move Telfair tonight (i knew I should have moved him 3 days ago). I am going to Calderon. It loses a game but Calderon should still easily outpoint him. So Calderon today, Paul to Wallace tomorrow and then TD/AI to Howard/Salmons on Tuesday. That uses the rest of my trades but I only need to move Bynum to Kaman at the end of next week.
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| | | 31 | Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Sat, Jan 05, 2008, 12:17
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* Opposing Cap'n int *
#25
ki, if it helps you, I was looking hard at Thomas two days ago (desperately searching for a Dorell exit) but shied away because there were news about Carlesimo possibly employing a three-guard lineup. Additionally, for a team whose only target this season it can be to develop young talent and to secure as many lottery balls as possible, I don't see the point in overusing a 35-year-old veteran. He has performed recently but I don't trust the situation. In fact so much that I even skipped Amare to not be forced money-wise to get Thomas.
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| | | 32 | kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Sat, Jan 05, 2008, 13:04
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re #31, thanks for your $0.02..
Now I know I must be losing my brain; I'm listneing to advice from an opposing team's captain!
LOL
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| | | 33 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Jan 05, 2008, 13:13
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[28] - I guess I'll go from Wade to Nash. Then tomorrow, I move Paul/Maxiell to G.Wallace and either Mo Will or J Rich, run out of trades, and officially throw caution to the wind.
Like Coach Bird, my only planned move next week would be Bynum=>Kaman.
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| | | 34 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sat, Jan 05, 2008, 13:13
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I would be very careful about taking advice from Soulman......he seems to have a thing for players named Miller.
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| | | 35 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Jan 05, 2008, 13:17
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Weykool - it looks like your worst move this year was picking me in round 1. While that doesn't explain all our of deficiency vs. 1st place, if you had passed on me, one of the top teams might have gotten stuck with me, further closing the gap.
I keep thinking my team is turning the corner, but every time, there seems to be another brick wall that I run into.
For some reason, this just doesn't seem to be my year...
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| | | 36 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sat, Jan 05, 2008, 13:42
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#35
Time for me to give my motivational speech I gave to Florian?
Okay....here goes....suck it up big guy.
The team needs you.
My GMD team isnt doing much better and it is doing better than most my other teams.
The trophy will be handed out some time in April so there is plenty of time for the cream to rise to the top.
The other teams have managers who are using half and half and will be exposed when the going gets tough.
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| | | 37 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Jan 05, 2008, 13:48
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[I feel an adrenaline rush already...]
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| | | 38 | JMISA
ID: 42023413
Sat, Jan 05, 2008, 15:02
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look at our recent successes we are on a streak the last 2 TPs in points and we are inching towards the top FV avg.
And guru where u lack in points is where i Lack in FV so im in the doghouse for now too
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| | | 39 | JMISA
ID: 42023413
Sat, Jan 05, 2008, 15:09
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BTW guru
Is wade a definte DNP for the next few games?
I would really like to hold him as i have 2 trades with CP3 having to go tommorrow
and the universal TD>Howard
if i trade wade the only thing i can think of doin is
A. Wade > someone less thn 9M
going CP3 > Howard and having a 2 non play gap
and for the under 9 mill option im looking at Gerard Wallace + Shawn Marion
B. cp3> whoever td > dhoward
C. CP/WADE tonight > Nash/Kidd/Marion
do you guys think option A is the best route? need help before 7pm
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| | | 40 | kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Sat, Jan 05, 2008, 15:56
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My $0.02.... and a little repetition of my venting above in post #25..
Wade's already DNPed once and his schedule is drying up anyway! Trade him!
Duncan has a great schedule out to 1/29. Not sure I understand a trade poor team going Duncan to Howard for a 4 in 5! Just don't see it, myself. Take that with a grain of salt though as I also missed the recent Chris Paul run!
I hope you all reading my posts and chuckle a little. For me this game is a hobby and not anything to be taken too seriously. I've had some great runs and some aweful stretches (like the past month!) My posts are a way to vent a little at times and hope no takes an opinion of mine too seriously... Opinions are like a*@h&*#s, every's got one!
Love playing with you guys. Hope you are enjoying this season and YES there is a LONG LONG LONG was to go. I promise to give my 100%.. even if that means considering KURT THOMAS!
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| | | 41 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Jan 05, 2008, 16:00
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I have no information that Wade is a DNP for tomorrow. My decision to move him now is because I had one trade in reserve for this week, and I figure I might as well use it, since he was going to be sold next week anyway. However, holding Wade is not necessarily a bad move.
He's listed only as day-to-day. But with pending back-to-back games, it doesn't seem unreasonable that Miami might choose to sit him for a few days in hopes that he can really recuperate from his various ailments, rather than trot him out there twice in a row.
If you decide to hold him, JMISA, then from a team standpoint, we're splitting the difference.
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| | | 42 | kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Sat, Jan 05, 2008, 16:44
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JMISA....I would go Wade to Marion today and CP3 to Wallace tomorrow
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| | | 43 | JMISA
ID: 42023413
Sat, Jan 05, 2008, 17:25
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yea i think Wade HAS to go ... so that means holding TDuncan thru the stretch and hoep for the best
now my 2 options are getting marion today from Wade and then trading Paul tommorrow for D Howard
or trading Paul and Wade tonight for Marion / Nash / Kidd
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| | | 44 | JMISA
ID: 42023413
Sat, Jan 05, 2008, 17:26
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Kobe from PAul is a better option game wise then Howard by far but i hate him this season so idk bout that option
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| | | 45 | Yehosh
ID: 5107519
Sat, Jan 05, 2008, 20:15
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hey guys, sorry I have been away for last few days. I will be back tomorrow. Got someone babysitting my team in case of injuries.
got TD as well. 2 trades left, for him and Paul. Not sure if I should hold TD until tuesday, but I am leaning towards it.
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| | | 47 | Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Sun, Jan 06, 2008, 05:26
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#34
LOL, weykool! Damn, you revealed my primary strategy. Yes it's true, I'm still working on an all "Miller" team. So I'm longing back to the days of Oliver Miller, who in fact was able to occupy two slots all by himself. ;)
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| | | 49 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sun, Jan 06, 2008, 10:34
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48.5 from Brad Miller yesterday.
Also it seems my "motivational technics" worked their charm.
The top two GMD teams yesterday we from team WK....any guesses who they were?
You can find one of the teams on yesterday's best.
The team leader for this TP is Florian.
Anyone else need some inspiring words of encouragement?
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| | | 50 | kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Sun, Jan 06, 2008, 11:09
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weykool...looks like I might! LOL
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| | | 51 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sun, Jan 06, 2008, 11:30
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KI:
What are you thinking?
Get your arse in gear and stop making lame excuses.
You are not only embarassing your Guru heritage but there are a couple of indian tribes from the great state of Kentucky that are going to expell you if you dont get your team going.
(I had another speech written but it seemed a little too harsh so I went with this "watered down" version)
Anyone else feeling the need to get "Inspired"?
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| | | 52 | JMISA
ID: 42023413
Sun, Jan 06, 2008, 15:12
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i still have to move CPAUL
narowed down to 3 options
A. KOBE
B. D HOWARD
C. GERARD
opinions pls?
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| | | 53 | JMISA
ID: 42023413
Sun, Jan 06, 2008, 15:41
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jus to clarify my thoughts on my last post since i realzied it was kind of a throwout question as it is
A: KOBE
pros: Best possible scedule through his hold and a direct route into Kaman without losing any days
cons: Like Dirk he jus flat out sucks this year
B: D Howard
pros: He is D Howard
Cons: 2 Days before his next game ... even so not the greatest schedule unless planning to move back into TD (whom i alredy have)
C: G wallace
pros: Kaman-like tsnp/$mill production and the best long term schedule
cons: He alredy went up like GAS prices.
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| | | 54 | kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Sun, Jan 06, 2008, 17:18
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JMISA... I vote C: G. Wallace... in spite being up he is still only 4th most owned and has a long terific schedule.
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| | | 55 | JMISA
ID: 42023413
Sun, Jan 06, 2008, 17:29
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ya i decided to X out plan B because im not all that into D Howard anymore
but im still on a tossup between Kobe + Gerard
1v1 u think Gerard will outpoint KObe in 6 games?
i like the Kobe > Kaman schedule link
another question is if Kobe will make more money then Gerard in 9 days time
what would push me to gerard is if i figure out a reason to need th extra 2.5 mill he is cheapr then kobe in the next week
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| | | 56 | JMISA
ID: 42023413
Sun, Jan 06, 2008, 17:33
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another thing to note is that Kobe plays all teams that allow 100+ points a game =) except NOR
while gerard's got Boston and Det coming up and then spurs in the next week yuck
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| | | 57 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Sun, Jan 06, 2008, 19:25
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Who is Gerard ;)
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| | | 58 | kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Sun, Jan 06, 2008, 21:48
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Don't worry Dave.... it's our secret way of communicating... everyone on our team knows who Gerard is!
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| | | 59 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Mon, Jan 07, 2008, 03:13
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Who is Gerard ;)
You didnt watch the Steeler/Jacksonville game?
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| | | 60 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Jan 07, 2008, 09:33
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Gerard is Ray Barone's cousin, isn't he? Cousin Gerard?
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| | | 62 | Yehosh
ID: 802731
Mon, Jan 07, 2008, 14:39
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What are the Duncan owners doing this tuesday?
I am thinking the move to Howard is worth it, the value you get for that extra trade is very high although I still haven't figured out my out from Howard. I guess if you don't have Bynum then Howard->Kaman is simple, but if you already have that move planned from Bynum, then Howard needs another out.
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| | | 63 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Mon, Jan 07, 2008, 19:15
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I dont have Bynum so I will be doing the Howard to Kaman route.
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| | | 64 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Mon, Jan 07, 2008, 19:36
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*intruder*
Howard back into Duncan next thursday works pretty well...assuming duncan isn't so banged up by then
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| | | 65 | Yehosh
ID: 802731
Mon, Jan 07, 2008, 20:10
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qwert, I agree, that works well
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| | | 67 | C. Bird
ID: 579542815
Tue, Jan 08, 2008, 17:56
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I have about $8.55M to get any position. I want to keep about $1M in the bank for my Bynum to Kaman move next week. I was looking at Vince as a long term hold. I could get MoWil or Jamison but I don't really like Mo and Jamison is too short of a hold. Do you guys think that Vince will escape gravity today or any time soon?
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| | | 68 | kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Tue, Jan 08, 2008, 18:36
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C. Bird... I like Mo Willy of your options. New Jersey looks good long term and the back to back today is enticing; but I've got to think you will look at a Net purchase on Thursday at the start of 3 games in 9 days and say "Argh, why did I do that?"
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| | | 69 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Tue, Jan 08, 2008, 19:44
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I really don't see Vince escaping gravity just yet
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| | | 70 | C. Bird
ID: 579542815
Tue, Jan 08, 2008, 19:49
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I went with MoWill and since he has 28 TSNP with 8 mins left in the 2nd quarter i am glad I did.
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| | | 72 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Wed, Jan 09, 2008, 17:15
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hey guys, in case you didn't hear Hill is out for 2 weeks
I am moving Hill->Kaman
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| | | 73 | C. Bird
ID: 5510211919
Wed, Jan 09, 2008, 17:31
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What are the team's thoughts about Yi? I was thinking of moving Yi/Hill to Anthony Johnson/sub $8M player. I need to keep enough money to ensure that I make the bynum to kaman trade next tuesday. How bad will the Yi hit be?
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| | | 74 | Adam
ID: 124532213
Wed, Jan 09, 2008, 17:45
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good for you
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| | | 75 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Wed, Jan 09, 2008, 17:54
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the people that I've talk to that have him are selling, but that is a small sample
I guess it really depends if he has a good game tonights, so it's anybody's guess
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| | | 76 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Jan 09, 2008, 17:56
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I don't know that Yi's price hit will be so bad. He was being bought around Christmas time, when general trade activity was probably light. And today is a trade refresh day. He'll take a hit, for sure, but it's hard to say how big.
With Yi, I'd be more worried about the points.
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| | | 77 | kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Wed, Jan 09, 2008, 18:24
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Hill to Kamen?? WOW I've heard a lot of talk about that... He is at the start of 3 games in 9 days; isn't that the reason we sell players?... Guess since I'm bringing up the rear I should probably following instead of questioning.. But I just don't see the logic in that one.. I'm sure the money will be there but this game is about points? Right?
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| | | 78 | kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Wed, Jan 09, 2008, 18:31
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...the only logic I do see in Hill to Kamen is no other option in that price range jumps out at me.. Golden State Schedule dries up on 1/16 and I was thinking SJax and Baron to Kamen and someone else then... I'm leaning toward Hill to Calderon but definitely open to suggestions?
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| | | 79 | reebbertxx
Leader
ID: 561124720
Wed, Jan 09, 2008, 18:36
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intruder
77, Who will outpoint Kaman over those 9 days that doesn't cost significantly more? Only Calderon jumps out at me.
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| | | 80 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Wed, Jan 09, 2008, 18:49
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nm, decided to go Calderon
if I went Kaman, I'd be stuck with no serious out from Bynum
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| | | 81 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Wed, Jan 09, 2008, 18:51
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I really had no problem with getting Kaman this early. For his price, 140 tsnp in 9 days is not bad. It's like having a 6.3M center averaging 28/g for a 5 in 9.
As I said, not bad. But I would really be stuck with Bynum, so Calderon hopefully solves this problem.
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| | | 83 | ki @ work
ID: 2836246
Thu, Jan 10, 2008, 08:51
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Weykool... I want to know how you and I ended up without Jason Richardson? I think my team has fallen every night he has played over the past couple weeks!
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| | | 84 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Thu, Jan 10, 2008, 10:52
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KI:
When I made the trade to Hill I was going to undo it and get JR but it was past the deadline to undo a trade.
Hill sucked while I had him and had to be traded anyways and I didnt have the cash to get JR and took SJax instead.
As you can see the snowball just keeps getting bigger.
Now I have Nash/Jian/Dalem and only 2 trades.
My head hurts from thinking about it so if anyone would like to offer an opinion....please, be my guest.
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| | | 85 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Thu, Jan 10, 2008, 11:05
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WK,
Yi to Carter on Sunday looks good. If you really need the RV you can make it today and lose a game, but I would do it sunday.
Now for the two Canadians...
Between Nash and Dalem, I think it depends on how Nash is feeling. But I would say hold Dalembert, take the RV hit and move him to Bynum on the 20th. You'll need an in for Bynum anyways, so this solves one problem.
If Nash is a no go before the game, there are no real good options, so your guess is as good as mine.
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| | | 86 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Thu, Jan 10, 2008, 11:53
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One option I was considering was Nash to AI.
If that is the case I might as well hold and do it tomorrow.
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| | | 87 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Thu, Jan 10, 2008, 12:30
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I dont know that I could handle Carter with 48.0 one night and two night in the teens.
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| | | 88 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Jan 10, 2008, 12:38
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I think I'll just hold Nash, regardless - unless there is word that this will be more than a one game issue. Even if he doesn't play tonight, he should be ready by Saturday, and I wasn't originally planning to move him.
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| | | 89 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Jan 10, 2008, 12:40
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Carter may end up being my eventual out from Udrih. Sounds like Bibby may be back as early as Jan 16 (next Wed) and Martin may return as early as Jan 14 (Monday), putting a probable damper on the PT for both Udrih and Salmons.
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| | | 90 | JMISA
ID: 42023413
Thu, Jan 10, 2008, 13:56
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2 trades lingering for YI + Dalembart
Yi has a b2b but sucks so much i really wanna drop him tonight for either carter or moon
would today be the consensus day to sell dalembart
i would like to hold him for his next game and then > Kaman but i don;t wanna take over a 100k of RV hit
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| | | 91 | JMISA
ID: 42023413
Thu, Jan 10, 2008, 13:58
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also has anyone considered Parker or Mike miller as possible options ... moreso parker
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| | | 92 | C. Bird
ID: 5510211919
Thu, Jan 10, 2008, 14:40
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How about moving to Anthony Johnson? (and yes I am suggesting him because he's on my team)
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| | | 93 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Thu, Jan 10, 2008, 15:53
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Johnson is a great pick (yes I'm suggesting him because he is on my RV team and not on Weykool's)
but seriously, he frees up a lot of cash
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| | | 94 | kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Thu, Jan 10, 2008, 18:22
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took care of Hill with my emrgency trade last night... Now Salmons tonight... We did get 7 trades this week? right?
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| | | 95 | C. Bird
ID: 5510211919
Thu, Jan 10, 2008, 18:34
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You guys think I should move Yi tonight for Jamison or hold him until I move Dwight and get Caron? I would plan to hold Jamison through his 2 game week.
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| | | 96 | kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Thu, Jan 10, 2008, 19:59
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Pulled the trigger Salmons to Parker.. What I'm reading sounds like he is probably going to play but I cann't wait till gametime to see if he plays cause by then Parker is froze.. I think Parker is an upgrade since it sounds like Bibby and Martin are back for Sac next week... I've got to turn a corner sometime?? Don't I??
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| | | 97 | kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Thu, Jan 10, 2008, 20:23
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Anyone else thinking 2/5 Dwight Howard to Lebron James... I know Howard is going to bleed some next week... but his 11 in 23 is still enough to project him out to a top 5 performer over that stretch.
I would hold Nash if I had him. He just has the flu so probably (with antibiotics) plays a limited game on Saturday and is back a healthy stregnth next Tuesday when his schedule gets good. A little rest on his "tired joints" could be a plus for next week!
And Wekool, i'd hold Dalembert as well! I'm holding AI2 thru the 3 in eight because on the other side of that is a 6 in 9!!!!!
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| | | 99 | ki @ work
ID: 2836246
Fri, Jan 11, 2008, 10:23
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OK.. Parker 18.5..Salmons 51.5... where did I put that bottle of Jim Beam?
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| | | 100 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Fri, Jan 11, 2008, 10:38
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I got tired of looking at my team so I decided to employ Guru's "when in doubt do nothing".
Did someone forget to mention to me that there was a price tag to doing nothing?
-220K and I am still facing the same decisions.
KI......pass the JB.
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| | | 101 | Yehosh
ID: 802731
Fri, Jan 11, 2008, 15:37
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I'd love to hear peoples' opinions on Udirh->Daniels for today?
I'm inclined to hold, but am willing to be convinced otherwise ;)
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| | | 102 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Fri, Jan 11, 2008, 15:47
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I have several Beno's on other teams and just cant seem to pull the trigger.
There will be an RV hit that is for certain.
The question is how much and what is your tolerance to absorb those losses.
When you look at the real stock market there is a well know phrase that goes "buy the rumor, sell the news".
In this case it will be sell on the rumor but my guess is Beno will not see a significant decrease in production.
Points wise my guess is Beno out produces Daniels.
I'm thinking I will go Dalembert to Kaman tomorrow and Jian to Smith (CHI) on Sunday.
My window into kaman is 150K.....what are my chances?
KI....still waiting on that JB
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| | | 103 | Yehosh
ID: 802731
Fri, Jan 11, 2008, 16:05
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I'd like to say good chances for that window. It's a busier trading day, Kaman isn't playing, Dalembert is. Kaman will have to gain 100 and Dalembert lose 50K. I really don't see it happening. But I've been surprised before.
Another factor I've never been able to prove is. Dalembert plays at 7 pm. Theoretically, the less time people have to trade, the better.
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| | | 104 | JMISA
ID: 42023413
Fri, Jan 11, 2008, 17:40
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Weykool you should have listened when I hated on Yi a week ago ! lol i finally got rid of him for calderon which was a bad trade move but hopefully will give me the money
was on edge last night for my team as if i traded marion i wouldnt be able to get Kaman until next week ... i was going to go Marion>Butler
but since he is playing i will jus go Kobe> Kaman and Haywood > 8 - 9 mill player
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| | | 105 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Fri, Jan 11, 2008, 19:08
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I already had Calderon.
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| | | 106 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Sat, Jan 12, 2008, 02:21
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hey guys, you gotta hear this, I scored 352 with 8 players... and I dropped 22 spots in the WWR, lol
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| | | 108 | Yehosh
ID: 802731
Sat, Jan 12, 2008, 13:04
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while I share DJ's skepticism regarding his inconsistency, I think Carter is the real deal, three 50 tsnp games in last 5 cannot be ignored.
who here thinks Udrih->Carter on sunday is a good move?
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| | | 109 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sat, Jan 12, 2008, 13:36
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Sold Sammy for Kaman today.
Have 1 trade.
Thinking of:
A. Iggy to JRich....suck up the remaining Jian losses.
B. Jian to somone tomorrow......take a big iggy hit.
Yehosh dont have an opinion on Carter just yet.
I might be looking at him from Jian if I choose B.
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| | | 110 | Yehosh
ID: 802731
Sun, Jan 13, 2008, 01:07
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ok, Udrih is gone. The question is Nazr again or Carter. What do you guys think?
Weykool, I say trade Yi.
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| | | 111 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Sun, Jan 13, 2008, 01:27
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I would think that decision by Weykool has already been made...and if I were you I would avoid Nazr...since Kaman and Bynum should occupy both C spots until the all-star break (except for next week when bynum goes away for a bit)
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| | | 112 | Yehosh
ID: 802731
Sun, Jan 13, 2008, 01:31
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please ignore my last post. I forgot that Nazr is only C. if I take him I can't have Kaman AND Bynum.
Carter it is!!!
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| | | 113 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sun, Jan 13, 2008, 01:50
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I decide on B.
I just needed to get that 7.0 TSNP my team so desperately needed from Jian.
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| | | 116 | CJ
Leader
ID: 499271021
Mon, Jan 14, 2008, 08:51
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112 Yehosh
Well now I guess you get both?
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| | | 117 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Mon, Jan 14, 2008, 18:02
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CJ, Bynum won't be back for LA's amazing schedule, so I'm humbly inviting Nazr to rejoin my team.
I had the whole 2 weeks planned out for trades but gave that plan %10 chance of actually happening.
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| | | 118 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Mon, Jan 14, 2008, 18:44
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change of plans. I figure kaman will gain 500K+ before friday and Nazr only gains 1 game on him. I don't see Nazr outscoring him by more then 20-25. I also don't have an in for Kaman on friday if I take Nazr.
I'm sticking with my plan of Bynum->Kaman, hopefully Kaman will have a big game on tueday.
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| | | 119 | Blooki
Sustainer
ID: 449292712
Mon, Jan 14, 2008, 19:02
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Re: 118
I'm personally going Dwight => Kaman on the teams that don't have him. I can't justify buying into a 1 in 4 when there are other attractive options available. My other teams got Kaman on 1/12 from Dalembert, which was a 2 in 6 at the time. The difference was that there was absolutely nobody else (I felt) worth buying on that date. But that's just me.
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| | | 120 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Mon, Jan 14, 2008, 20:11
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you guys think Odom is going to be a good pickup in a week or so?
I guess unless he starts producing over 36/g, he is the same deal as Jamison, or worse, so for now I'm sticking with my plan to get Jamison from Calderon
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| | | 122 | The Bandwagon
Sustainer
ID: 479521116
Tue, Jan 15, 2008, 14:31
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Very nice move C. Bird, Camby instead of Kaman. Especially if Kaman sits tonight. Good call
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| | | 123 | C. Bird
ID: 5510211919
Tue, Jan 15, 2008, 16:52
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Thanks...I didn't expect Camby to be that good but I'll take it. The Kaman situation is just pure luck...I'll take that too.
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| | | 124 | JMISA
ID: 42023413
Tue, Jan 15, 2008, 18:09
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wow .... i had made trades last night and didnt check internet once today to see news as i figured my moves were solid
i traded into KAMAN + Carmelo
i jus last minuted loggged onto rotoworld and saw they were both injured
quickly undid that.
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| | | 125 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Tue, Jan 15, 2008, 18:39
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i jus last minuted loggged onto rotoworld and saw they were both injured
quickly undid that.
You un-doo-dood?
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| | | 126 | JMISA
ID: 42023413
Tue, Jan 15, 2008, 18:42
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i think Kaman might play tonight the article doesnt seem like it is a sure thing and no other sites have him up as questionable
being that his game is last though i think i'll jus hold off on getting him til his next game so i can jus get Nash instead of Carmelo and not have to trade Haywood out of his game tonight
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| | | 127 | bd
ID: 01081412
Tue, Jan 15, 2008, 18:50
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This is about all I can find on Kaman:
From Orange County Register...Kaman apparently sprained his ankle in the latter stages of the Dallas game, although no injury report was issued during or after the game. Dunleavy said there is no pronounced swelling in Kaman's ankle, which likely should allow him to play tonight.
Warning the same article also said he was sitting out practice.
Clippers have hard time getting enough for practice
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| | | 128 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 07:33
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If you are unsure what the column header means, hover over it with your mouse.
A pop up will display a longer definition of the header.
GURUPATRON BONUS MATERIAL
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Click on the column header once for the default sort order.
Click a second time for the reverse sort order.
| Rank | GurupieName | LSWP0 | LSWP | LSWP5 | WWR | FV | Cash | RV | FVC | Trades | | 1 | Yehosh-2949 | 11350 | 290.5 | 3206 | 56 | 77.19 | 2.29 | 74.90 | 0.52 | 4 | | 2 | Coach Bird-1379 | 11304 | 231 | 3101.5 | 16 | 73.48 | 2.30 | 71.18 | 0.26 | 6 | | 3 | Kal Zakath-4430 | 11155 | 287 | 2905.5 | 105 | 74.34 | 0.57 | 73.77 | 0.28 | 4 | | 4 | JMISA-6186 | 10896 | 204 | 2876.5 | 191 | 67.55 | 0.95 | 66.60 | 0.14 | 4 | | 5 | Florian-6066 | 10715 | 205.5 | 3028.5 | 308 | 72.57 | 2.97 | 69.60 | 0.20 | 4 | | 6 | Weykool-4361 | 10655.5 | 252 | 2760 | 422 | 73.22 | 1.28 | 71.94 | 0.44 | 4 | | 7 | Guru-250 | 10620 | 245 | 2844.5 | 454 | 70.83 | 0.87 | 69.96 | 0.54 | 5 | | 8 | kentucky indians-2450 | 10574 | 202 | 2689.5 | 153 | 69.81 | 1.52 | 68.29 | 0.29 | 4 |
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| | | 129 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 11:26
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Guru:
are you going to run a top 100 standings this year. i believe it was you who had done it in the past.
thanx
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| | | 130 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 14:00
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Yeah, I guess it's about time to dust that off.
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