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| Posted by: weykool
- [2842717] Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 17:24
Decided to keep the team the same.
We took 2nd for TP4.
We lost almost 400 to team BW but gaind over 600 on Soulman.
The teams at the bottom of the roster are very strong finishers so I think we are poised to make our move. |
| | | 1 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 17:25
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No moves planned for today.
Will move Howard tomorrow for a player to be named later.
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| | | 2 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 17:29
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ditto
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| | | 3 | Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 19:01
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* Int *
weykool, your "motivational methods" seemed to have worked wonders indeed. Any chance you could apply the same to an opposing team's struggling captain and whoever on his squad wanting a dose of the same medicine?
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| | | 4 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 19:15
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#3.
It's an old family secret passed on from generation to generation.
It starts by becoming one with your mind, body, and fantasy players.
These motivational powers cannot be duplicated or immitated.
Those who have tried to weild this power were unable to harness the magnitude of the motivational energy and it did more harm than good.
You can thank me in advance for not telling you the secret.
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| | | 5 | Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Wed, Jan 16, 2008, 19:30
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Ah, family secret, yes I thought as much! Actually, in my current state I seem to be unable to wield any motivational energy regardless of its magnitude. So I guess I should indeed thank you in advance for not telling me the secret. Especially as you say it requires to become one with one's fantasy players - and looking at my {yikes} roster full of historically injury-prone players, I'm not sure I want to do that... ;)
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| | | 7 | Yehosh
ID: 802731
Thu, Jan 17, 2008, 14:32
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Trying to figure out which move is better from Howard
Duncan:
1) extra game
2) F flexibility (since we all have Kaman already, this may be a factor)
3) Slightly cheaper
Camby:
1) Better production
Both are a 13 day hold
Duncan ~41/gx8 = 208 tsnp
Camby ~45/gx7 = 195 tsnp
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| | | 8 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Jan 17, 2008, 15:15
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The better move is the one who lasts longer before spraining an ankle/knee/hip/shoulder or getting the flu.
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| | | 9 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Thu, Jan 17, 2008, 15:32
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*intruder
Yehosh...i think looking at their 15/30 day averages makes their averages pretty close...but the game advantage of duncan may also go away, if you consider that you could sell camby on 1/29 for someone who plays
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| | | 10 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Thu, Jan 17, 2008, 16:31
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I ended up going Howard to TD.
I have the cash to go SJax to Marion.
The only problem is I have Calderon and Salmons and 2 trades if I get Marion.
If Salmons has a couple of monster games then he could probably be held till next week.
Calderon will need to go for sure.
Do I risk it yet agian with Gerald on the team?
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| | | 11 | Yehosh
ID: 802731
Thu, Jan 17, 2008, 16:50
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since I'll only be take 1 of Kobe/James on sunday, I will be going Camby/Duncan into the remaining stud. So Selling Camby on that tuesday instead of Wednesdya doesn't make a difference. I could sell Wallace earlier for the Kobe/James guy I'll need, but with Gerard's current production, it seems lateral.
WK, what do you mean by risk with Gerald, Injury?
regarding Salmons, I wouldn't bet on him having a big game with all the players coming back from injuries. Personlly, I'm upgrading Calderon to Jamison. Not sure if you can afford that move, but maybe Marion is not the way to go since he isn't a long term hold (long term being over 3 weeks)
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| | | 12 | ki @ work
ID: 2836246
Thu, Jan 17, 2008, 17:42
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Poor weekend planning catches me today... I had a $300k window for SJax to Kamen today which is now a $250k deficit (YEHOSH, Can you spare $250K for a BUDDY????) ... Have to move Calderon, Sjax and Baron this week.... Wanted to Go Baron to Kidd on Saturday... Could move Dwight Howard to Camby today but that will leave me tradeless on Sunday after I trade Calderon. PLUS everyone would have to stay healthy!! Another option would be Baron/SJax to Nash/Kamen; hold Howard (looking at 2/5 Howard to Lebron!) as I was planning and move Calderon on Sunday. But that option leaves me without Kidd?... OR I could skip Kamen but I really think that could be suicidal? Any thoughts??
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| | | 13 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Thu, Jan 17, 2008, 18:25
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KI:
I would move Howard.
The losses will be significant.
Better to take the sure gains and risk the losses than take the sure losses in hopes of avoing bigger losses.
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| | | 14 | kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Thu, Jan 17, 2008, 19:43
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Howard to Camby today opens up Duncan to Lebron on 1/30!! Sjax to Kamen today! Then either Baron to Kidd Saturday or (if an emrgency happens!) postpone trading Baron till Sunday and go Baron to Kobe.. Not sure who Calderon becomes?-- but he has to be a guard and probably less expensive than himself to build the cash to go Duncan to Lebron.. Got a little more time for suggestions??
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| | | 15 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Thu, Jan 17, 2008, 20:03
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KI
you will probably be selling Amare on 1/30 at the latest so you can use that money to afford Lebron from Duncan. I just mention it because that is my plan.
Tho if you want to go cheap A johnson or daniels (tho health is a issue) are likely the best options. again i mention it because i need to go cheap for other moves
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| | | 16 | JMISA
ID: 42023413
Fri, Jan 18, 2008, 01:03
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finally got a good price change day with 760k up i still got so much ground to cover.... only getting rid of calderon in 2 days with 2.6 mill in bank planned for this week
still duno who to take unless packaged with another to get Butler as washington's schedule til all star break is a must have
skeptical on getting A Carter today with his last 2 dud games but i guess that worked out for tonight
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| | | 19 | kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Sat, Jan 19, 2008, 09:28
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Choices..... Baron to Kidd today or Baron to Kobe tomorrow??
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| | | 20 | kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Sat, Jan 19, 2008, 14:12
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I think I'm leaning towards Baron to Kobe tomorrow and skipping Kidd... Kobe will be a nice long term hold and does anybody else feel like he is about to go on a tear since Bynum went down?
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| | | 21 | Yehosh
ID: 802731
Sat, Jan 19, 2008, 14:24
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KI, I agree that Kobe's average should be clime 3-6 tsnp/g. Odom probably more. I am taking both from Nash and Baron. (Nash->Kidd today). But if I had to choose, I'd say Kobe. But $ is very important, so make sure this move doesn't hurt you next week.
Keep in mind, you'll want James very soon too. So make sure you can afford all that. I'm planning to try and get them all, but I have a little more cash to work with. I think whats interesting is that there aren't many ~5M players worth gettign right now. Gay is pretty much it IMO. Cheapie wise, its A. Carter, AJ and Daniels. So what I'm trying to say is, make sure you plan the cash right and factor that into the Kidd - Kobe decision
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| | | 22 | kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Sat, Jan 19, 2008, 14:33
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I'm thinking Calderon to Marvin Williams tomorrow because the Atlanta schedule is going to get very,very good! In addition to Lebron from Duncan on 1/30; I think Wallace to Josh Smith on 2/2 looks like a smoove transition. (chuckle, chuckle!)
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| | | 23 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sat, Jan 19, 2008, 14:34
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KI:
Definatly Kobe.
I am doing Salmons to Cassell today.
Calderon to Kobe tomorrow.
I like the sound of that:
Calderon to K-o-b-e.
If you didnt notice we took over 2nd place yesterday.
Now we just need to hunt down BW.
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| | | 24 | Yehosh
ID: 802731
Sat, Jan 19, 2008, 14:41
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I noticed
1500 tsnp to go and we're in 1st. Hope I'm not the only one here that thinks we have a legit shot.
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| | | 25 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sat, Jan 19, 2008, 15:19
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If our bottom 4 can catch up to the top 4 without the top 4 slipping then we have a legit shot.
The bottom 4 should continue to make gains up the GMD leader board.
So catching BW is indeed very doable/legit.
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| | | 27 | Yehosh
ID: 802731
Sat, Jan 19, 2008, 16:05
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well, after doing some math I have reached the conclusion that I can't go Baron+Calderon->James+Butler
I have 110K window which will surely close tonight with Baron and Calderon being sold early.
Quesiton is: do I take Kobe over James? or Jamison over Butler?
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| | | 28 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Sat, Jan 19, 2008, 16:11
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*intruder
I'd go with Kidd and Butler, but that's just me.
I find Kobe can be picked up easily from Bobcats at a later date...and Lebron's schedule only really heats up on 1/30, when suns and spurs likely have to go.
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| | | 29 | Yehosh
ID: 802731
Sat, Jan 19, 2008, 16:25
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As I mentioned ealier, going Nash->Kidd today to gain a game. holding Wallace till the end and moving in jsmooth. Jrich will go to either Butler or Jamison, whichever I don't take this week. So it's really a decision between James and Kobe.
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| | | 30 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Sat, Jan 19, 2008, 16:38
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sorry...missed that
i wouldn't personally sell nash...but you have 3.5 million more than me and about 40 spots in the WR, so listening to me probably isn't the way to go
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| | | 31 | Yehosh
ID: 802731
Sat, Jan 19, 2008, 16:50
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He has some schedule left. But this is the only move I can see with him where I gain a game, and that is what I'm trying to do. Personally I think it makes more sense then the Baron->Kidd moves everyone is talking about.
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| | | 32 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Sat, Jan 19, 2008, 18:16
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really? Baron has to go tomorrow...and not a lot of players other than Kidd gain that game you're talking about. what makes less sense about it, when Nash can be held for another week and a half.
and in the end...you're not gaining any games from Baron to Kobe...even though you are from Nash, so I don't see that much of a difference.
IMO, you're making 2 trades to gain 1 game, instead of just making one trade to gain 1 game.
you could always just trade Nash for Kobe or Lebron on monday if you still wanted to make the move.
anyway...like i said, i shouldn't be challenging someone's moves ahead of me in the standings...just seems like a lateral move to me.
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| | | 33 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Sat, Jan 19, 2008, 18:18
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intruder
qwert has a point, Yehosh.
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| | | 34 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Sat, Jan 19, 2008, 19:32
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I get his point. It's not like I didn't contemplate holding Nash and going Baron->Kobe. I'll try and explain it as best as I can.
1) Kidd produces 5 tsnp/g a game more then Nash but costs less. If I hold Nash until the end of his schedule thats 30 tsnp I lose instead of taking Kidd. Does't sound like much, but 30 is still a lot.
2) The guys I'm moving into are LONG term holds. Kidd is 4 weeks, Kobe, Jamison, Butler are potentially 5-6 weeks. Holding Nash for another week serves no purpose cuz I'll probably move into the same players and none of them gain a game from Nash later on. Who will I sell Nash for in 10 days? Butler? Kobe? it's the same outs now as it is later on. Maybe I'm missing a major train, but the only other out is Jsmooth and thats from Wallace. So by the time I have to sell Nash I'll have all those guys (hopefully if nothing crazy happens in between). So going Kidd now makes sense.
3) This is not a last minute move, the whole plan was originally like this. I had to sell Kobe last tuesday. So I decided instead of taking Marion or Nash long term, to take Nash for a 3 in 4 and move into Kidd. All I had to do was use an extra trade an gain almost 2 games (1 over "Nash long term"+the 30 tsnp production difference).
OK, that was lot. Hope it explains it. Maybe I'm wrong, but this was my reasoning behind the Nash->Kidd move and hopefully it works out.
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| | | 35 | C. Bird
ID: 579542815
Sun, Jan 20, 2008, 01:22
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I have to move Calderon tomorrow. i have a little over $6M. Who do you like better:
Tony Parker
C. Maggette
A. Daniels
R. Gay
R. Jefferson
I really don't know where to go. Nothing is jumping out at me. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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| | | 37 | Adam
ID: 14035209
Sun, Jan 20, 2008, 10:40
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just keep calderon. I don't see any point in trading him.
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| | | 38 | Adam
ID: 14035209
Sun, Jan 20, 2008, 10:52
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dump kidd tomorrow and pick up lamar odom and caron butler or find a way to get lebron and pick up udrih. kidd doesn't gain any extra games after today.. he's even and needs to go in a week.
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| | | 39 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Sun, Jan 20, 2008, 11:18
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pick up udrih
you must be kidding, no ?
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| | | 41 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sun, Jan 20, 2008, 11:27
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Adam:
This thread is for team members and intruders with constructive advice.
Please post in the trade thread.
For team WK:
Please DO NOT hold Calderon and pick up Beno.
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| | | 42 | JMISA
ID: 42023413
Sun, Jan 20, 2008, 11:34
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C BIRD
Keep Calderon ....Pick UP UDRIH
if ADAM isnt completly clowing i think i would laugh in his face hahaha ;)
what about jamario moon and ronnie brewer no love for them ? ;)
Bird i got same deal i gota trade calderon and i have 7.25 mill .... its not any different then your scenario .... if i had F spot open i would def get jamison but there is no viable guard options in the mid range right now which leaves me screwed too unless i package deal
the only package deal i see worth it today would be B Miller + Calderon > Kobe + J Boone
i really didnt wanna get rid of B miller because with his Kaman like numbers for his price he is holdable through his crap stretch coming up .... but if i didn't then i would have to choose from the list of crap players u have to choose from too .... but if you want my take .. i would go with A Daniels since (if theyre all crap might as well take the cheapest of them as its least risk .. and he is also the only long term hold without schedule gaps) i dont like maggete
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| | | 43 | kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Sun, Jan 20, 2008, 11:34
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Not sure on the Calederon delimna as well... Don't think I can stomach the money losses over the next 6 in 19... Have aboout $6M and have to buy a guard... Yesterday I liked Marvin Williams for his long term holdability.. Today I'm thikning about Sam "I am" Cassell for the cash.. Does he look like a big cash maker this week to everybody else?? Not sold on his long term holdability and ability to continue to contribute the way he has recently?? But he looks like a cash maker to me?
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| | | 44 | JMISA
ID: 42023413
Sun, Jan 20, 2008, 11:47
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statistically speaking (tsnp/gm + best schedule)... if you want to maximize your calderon > 6M guard trade today
the two best candidates is marvin williams and corey maggete
i myself went for Boone + Kobe
im rethinking that trade though as i realized that buying a cheapie forward might be a bad idea. On the other hand buying a cheapie guard will yield lots of benefits. this is because in the next few weeks there will be a massive amount of 7M+ forwards available for trains aka Jamison/Odom/Butler then LBJ+Kobe
so trading calderon for a cheap long term guard may help setup for those moves next week.
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| | | 45 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Sun, Jan 20, 2008, 12:21
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C. Bird, I'd take Maggette or Daniels. For anything under 8M, I usually like the players with the long term schedule, and Maggette has the longest
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| | | 46 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sun, Jan 20, 2008, 12:25
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Nets' forward/center Nenad Krstic, who is still working his way back from knee surgery, may return to action by the end of January. There is an outside shot Krstic will play January 29th against Milwaukee, after the Nets return from their upcoming roadtrip.
Krstic's return is an unknown variable right now. His first comeback attempt, earlier this season, ended in the Nets shutting him down for weeks. Assuming he stays healthy, Krstic will undoubtedly chip away at the value of current starters Josh Boone and Sean Williams, but might not do enough to warrant a spot on your roster. Stay tuned.
I went Calderon to Kobe.
Need to move SJax and only have 5 mil.
Was thinking about Boone myself.
I may take Daniels and keep my F's open.
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| | | 47 | Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Sun, Jan 20, 2008, 12:37
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#37
Just keep calderon. I don't see any point in trading him.
You don't? I bet you do when you see the price movers over the next three weeks... ;)
But I presume you're kidding anyway, you can't honestly plan to hold Calderon.
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| | | 48 | kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Sun, Jan 20, 2008, 15:45
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I can go Maggette as well as Marvin.... I just think I like Marvin Williams better... He has scored more recently, can be held longer, GF felxibility (although I too see an expensive group at forward in the future!), and Magette is still in gravity... nobody likes Sam I AM?
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| | | 49 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Sun, Jan 20, 2008, 16:23
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Maggette will be out of gravity any day now, especially after his 50 tsnp night.
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| | | 50 | G
Donor
ID: 5810561615
Sun, Jan 20, 2008, 16:39
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For your team, I agree with Adam ;)
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| | | 51 | C. Bird
ID: 40021523
Sun, Jan 20, 2008, 17:45
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On the advice of Adam I am keeping calderon...NO I'M NOT. I have decided to go with M. Williams. he is cheaper than Maggette and can be held about the same amount of time.
With the extra cash I may move AJ for Cassell, i'm not sure that's worth a trade though.
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| | | 52 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Jan 20, 2008, 18:34
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Moved Moon to Boone. (How could I not?)
Also moved Baron to Kobe. Only $40 to spare!
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| | | 53 | Kal Zakath
ID: 269581213
Sun, Jan 20, 2008, 19:31
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I'm actually looking at Cassell..
Calderon -> Cassell
Jackson -> Jamison
The Cassell move leaves enough cash to be able to get to LeBron whenever you need to.
Players I love over the next week, though:
Jamison
Butler
Odom
Cassell (really long schedule cheapie)
Also, has anyone else been looking at Bogut? Really good schedule over the next 10 days, and averaging over 40 for the last 14 days.
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| | | 54 | C. Bird
ID: 240372020
Sun, Jan 20, 2008, 22:20
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I've decided against Cassell. I just think it is too big a risk with the age/injury risk/trade risk all factoring in. If I move AJ i'm moving to Daniels.
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| | | 56 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Jan 21, 2008, 09:23
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Just a heads up: Most teams play afternoon games today. Of the 13 games, 10 have afternoon starting times.
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| | | 57 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Mon, Jan 21, 2008, 13:18
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8 teams and only 4 trades.
My guess is Nash will be the big loser and I dont have a trade to move him.
Hopefully most of they buy will go into Kobe and be as close a wash for me as possible.
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| | | 59 | Yehosh
Donor
ID: 181082023
Tue, Jan 22, 2008, 10:26
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wow, rough night RV wise, our team net was -220K
and this is when most of us made trades to go tradeless last night
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| | | 60 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Tue, Jan 22, 2008, 10:28
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probably moslty the 7 Amare.
Blame this one on the TSN pricing formula.
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| | | 61 | Yehosh
Donor
ID: 181082023
Tue, Jan 22, 2008, 10:47
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I actually blame that formula for most of the problems in my life, so it works out well, lol
Just curious, Assuming Wallace is out on Wednesday, who are you guys moving into?
I guess the main candidates are Butler, Jamison, Odom and Josh Smith
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| | | 62 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Tue, Jan 22, 2008, 11:21
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Intruder.
Add Camby too, I would say, Kaman plus ? soon.
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| | | 63 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Tue, Jan 22, 2008, 15:18
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Camby for me is what Kidd is for SU, so I'm a little scared, but he'll definitely save me that whole Duncan->Howard->Duncan move
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| | | 64 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Tue, Jan 22, 2008, 15:36
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Exactly.
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| | | 65 | kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Tue, Jan 22, 2008, 18:14
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here's to hoping the 7 Amare pay off tonight!!!
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| | | 67 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Wed, Jan 23, 2008, 10:21
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Im moving Gerald today for Caron.
If there is word he will definately play I will thank about undoing the trade.
Playing or not he will lose money the next couple of days.
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| | | 68 | Yehosh
Donor
ID: 181082023
Wed, Jan 23, 2008, 12:52
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Already got Butler, but if I didn't, he'd be my first choice. If I move it's either Jamison or Camby (if I can grow a pair).
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| | | 69 | C. Bird
ID: 5510211919
Wed, Jan 23, 2008, 14:38
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I have had it with both MoWill and Kidd. I was going to go from Baron to Kobe all along and changed my mind at the last minute. Oh well, I am thinking about moving Kidd into either Kobe/Smith and MoWill into Odom/Jamison (slide JRich to G). I will wait until gametime and also move wallace to one of the above if he's out.
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| | | 70 | ki @ work
ID: 2836246
Wed, Jan 23, 2008, 14:42
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I think Caron is probably my first choice... BUT I think josh smith would be my second choice to buy today!
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| | | 71 | ki @ work
ID: 2836246
Wed, Jan 23, 2008, 17:34
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kindof second guessing moving Wallace to Butler... thought about it all day... would like to wait till gametime but my 10 and 12 year old kids have basketball games tonight. I can see myself needing another bottle of Jim Beam tomorrow.
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| | | 72 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Thu, Jan 24, 2008, 08:21
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hey guys, need some advice. Original plan was to get Kobe on Sunday. By then he should cost around around 11.4M. The more I think about it, the more it seems like he is not worth his price for his current production. But I do love his long term schedule. What do you guys think?
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| | | 74 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Thu, Jan 24, 2008, 09:27
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#67
Nice move bonehead.
Stop making bad decisions and get your arse in gear.
(not sure if my motivational technics work on self but its worth a try)
What is everyone doing with our PHO players?
We still have 6 Amares. (I wonder who bailed...didnt we have 7?)
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| | | 75 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Jan 24, 2008, 09:51
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Well, the good news (so far) is that I moved Kidd to J. Smith. The bad news is that I also moved Wallace to Butler.
I did these because my next pending moves (to add LeBron, among other things) were in jeopardy if I sustained the inevitable price losses by holding Kidd and Wallace. I guess that if I had gotten 45 TSNP from each of the two, I'd feel pretty good about it today. And if Kidd no goes nuts tonight and then Wallace puts up back-to-back 50s, those of you who held can all thank me, as I'm pretty sure that this team is my "jinx" team.
Onward and upward. Today, I unload Joe Smith for Nate Robinson. So if Robinson is in your plans, be very afraid. (And Weykool, if you hold Smith, I'd guess that his fortunes are about to improve.)
The biggest risk to my plan now is holding Amare until Wednesday, when he becomes LeBron. It's still unclear whether values will hold up to enable that, although I have a chance. I also expect to move Iguodala to Deron on Jan 27. For those two moves, I have $610K of room. Hopefully, LeBron has enough of a price pullback on his BTB off days to make this all fit.
I could ensure the fit by moving Amare to LeBron today. But that just doesn't seem to make sense, giving up 3 Amare games to get 2 LeBron games. It was tough enough to make the similar Wallace=>Butler tradeoff.
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| | | 76 | ki @ work
ID: 2836246
Thu, Jan 24, 2008, 12:14
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Dear Bonehead,
Wish I would have listened to my own advice and bought Josh Smith last night.. The sortablies are suggesting Amare to Deron Williams (swinging Marvin Williams to forward).. Not sure I'm buying that advice or not; but I'm seriously thinking about it!!
Guru, how about Amare to Deron today and Iggy to Lebron on Sunday?
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| | | 77 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Jan 24, 2008, 12:51
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What would that solve?
Under my current plan, from those two slots I get the following games over the next 6 days (price permitting):
2 Iggy games
3 Amare
2 Deron
Under your approach, I'd get
2 Iggy
1 LeBron
3 Deron
So'd I'd swap away 3 Amare games, getting one LBJ and one Deron in return (plus a few extra $ potentially, although I'd be buying LBJ just ahead of his 2 off days.)
If I can't make ends meet next Wednesday (and the issue will probably come down to what LBJ's price does on Monday and Tuesday), then I'll just have to finagle some other spot. Maybe Josh Boone can go to a cheaper option, or JRich could go to Maggette.
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| | | 79 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Thu, Jan 24, 2008, 13:32
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Ki, sorry to hear you didn't go Smith. I did take your advice though and took him from Wallace.
Regarding Amare, I have yet to decide. Still wouldn't mind Jamison, although Kobe is also an option. Another option is Camby.
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| | | 80 | ki @ work
ID: 2836246
Thu, Jan 24, 2008, 15:37
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Guru, 3 Amare games (15 day averages 44.2/game = 133 TSNP) are probably worth more than a Lebron (59.6) and a Deron (43.8) by 30TSNP. It probably solves your money problem though!
I hate having to trade a terrific performing guy like Amare early while his schedule is still really good bscause he is gonna loose TSN$$!! I kind of wish price changes were based on the trailing 5 days (like pitchers in basball!) instead of just one day only. The trading module almost penalizes good schedule management!
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| | | 81 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Thu, Jan 24, 2008, 15:47
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Guru, I also like option 1 better
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| | | 82 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Jan 24, 2008, 16:29
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I would consider an alternative if I thought my preferred plan had no chance to be affordable (without using an extra trade). But in this case, I think I have a shot. Which is why I'm going to take a chance - and why I decided to flip Wallace yesterday, in spite of his uncertainty.
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| | | 83 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Thu, Jan 24, 2008, 17:30
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Guru:
I like your plan as well as your chances.
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| | | 86 | Yehosh
Donor
ID: 181082023
Sat, Jan 26, 2008, 13:28
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So whats the verdict on Richardson, are people selling him or holding him?
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| | | 87 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sat, Jan 26, 2008, 13:33
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I dont have JRich here but on the teams that I do I am holding.
After today he still has a 4 in 7.
It seems to me at this point in the season holding and finding a player that can be a longer hold is one way to save some trades to take andvantage of some short term trades to gain stud games.
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| | | 88 | Yehosh
Donor
ID: 181082023
Sat, Jan 26, 2008, 14:10
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very true, which is part of the reason that aside from Kidd (groan), all my recent pickups where 4+ week holds. I'm hoping to come out of the ASB with more then a few banked trades.
I have 2 options for sunday, but one involves selling JRICH early which is not that exciting, but serves a purpose nonetheless.
1) Rich+Gay->Kobe+AJohnson
2) Amare+Gay->Kobe+AJ
Both options leave me cash for Duncan->Howard
Selling Jrich would "gain" me a game, but I can gain a game from him next week if I sell him for Dirk, so it's not really a factor.
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| | | 89 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sat, Jan 26, 2008, 14:48
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Do you have the Cash to go Kobe/Kleiza?
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| | | 90 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Sat, Jan 26, 2008, 15:09
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*intruder
wouldn't melo's return put a damper on plans to pick up kleiza?
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| | | 91 | Yehosh
Donor
ID: 181082023
Sat, Jan 26, 2008, 15:59
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yes but as qwert mentioned, Kleiza is no better the AJ with Mello back. And I like AJ cuz I can just hold him for 7 weeks and forget about that slot. I'm trying to work a full 8 stud rotation with Carter as my first cheapie, so if I spend more, it'll be harder to upgraede guys like Richarson or Amare into Dirk. Even now I'm not sure I'll be able to make that move.
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| | | 92 | Yehosh
Donor
ID: 181082023
Sat, Jan 26, 2008, 15:59
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Maybe I'm just trying to do too much as the same time, I'll rethink the Kobe move.
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| | | 93 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sat, Jan 26, 2008, 17:09
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Not sure I would be too worried about Mello coming back.
Kleiza is G/F and his best game was when Mello played 38 mins.
Just from the games I have watched....including when Mello played 38 mins.....it just seems he has stepped up his game.
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| | | 94 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Sat, Jan 26, 2008, 21:42
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thanks for the info, I'll keep that in mind
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| | | 96 | kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Sun, Jan 27, 2008, 10:17
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Man that Kamen DNP really has me second guessing my plans.... I hear people saying Hold Kamen; and from a points standpoint that is probably the right move!! But we are sitting here on Sunday (not a Wednesday!) with the THREE lightest trading days or the week coming up. There will be sellers today; I've got a team with 6 trades banked and down in my division and it only makes sence to use one of my trades there to try to make something happen!!! It only take a few sales on Monday (with another possible DNP??) and Tuesday to start a large selloff!
I've been looking at my team and thinking of trading Tony Parker (my team's ball and chain from the past couple weeks!) to Jamel Crawford and then I have eonough cash to go Kamen to Lebron James! Can get back to Kamen from Duncan early next week or move Duncan with someone else to Dwight Howard? Except that will leave me without Josh Smith? Still just brainstorming for now; all ideas are welcome!!
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| | | 97 | kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Sun, Jan 27, 2008, 10:47
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On second thought... I think it is maybe Kamen to Josh Smith today.... Parker and Duncan become James and somebody else next week... keeps a trade to deal with Kurt Thomas (in case I have too!)... then I'll have to figure out how to get back to Kamen?
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| | | 98 | kentucky indians
ID: 611511118
Sun, Jan 27, 2008, 11:05
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DONE!!!! Kamen and Kurt Thomas to Horford and Josh Smith! Tradeless and leaving for church!!!! See you all on Wednesday. LOL.
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| | | 99 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sun, Jan 27, 2008, 12:14
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I got one trade.
Iggy/Amare/Kaman.
Just going to play for the points and let the money take care of itself.
Trading Iggy for Camby.
Any thoughts?
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| | | 100 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Sun, Jan 27, 2008, 12:17
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good JI
Decided to hold Amare and Richardson.
I'm selling Kaman. The late starting time tomorrow leaves you no outs if he sits out. So I'm making a triangle move, and if he is healthy, I'll move Duncan+Amare->Howard+Kaman on wednesday.
WK, I skipped Kleiza. I checked his game log out, and he only has 1 good game with Mello playing, and that could have been a fluke for all I know. I know he has potential, but I'm not too keen on having both my cheapies from the same team.
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| | | 101 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Sun, Jan 27, 2008, 12:18
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hmm, hard to say since Iggy has 3 days off. I guess u have to sell him and pray Kaman plays. But I do like Camby as an out, centers are in short supply.
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| | | 102 | JMISA
ID: 42023413
Sun, Jan 27, 2008, 13:19
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another situation where i want 3 trades but only have 2
i havent checked my fantasy team for 3 days cause i got lazy so i forgot to trade marion 2 days ago for Jamison ... that kind of worked out for me though as today was a good day to get back on TSN for the Kaman injury
opted to keep Marion since he is alredy low owned now and booted J rich early and Kaman too ( had the same thoughts as Yehosh about his late game start)
picked up Deron Williams for his 2 week spurt and Kenyon Martin has been producing solid (hopefully barring his usual injuries)
i left myself 6 mill in cash to pick up LBJ + D Howard at the refresh
do you guys think D Howard is a good pickup at the refresh (decnet schedule til break but great after) or Camby be better?
picking up Kaman again can be a possibility and leaves me extra cash for an eventual upgrade for boone /tim thomas / or carter
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| | | 103 | Yehosh
Donor
ID: 181082023
Sun, Jan 27, 2008, 13:47
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well I just taking Howard for his 4 in 6, and back in to Duncan on tuesday. I really feel like TD is a must for his price and schedule. Plus SA being a second half team as we all know.
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| | | 105 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Mon, Jan 28, 2008, 12:31
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wow, another tough week. We have an average of 0.25 trades per person
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| | | 107 | Yehosh
Donor
ID: 181082023
Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 11:14
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10:30 EST starting time for Kaman on Wednesday. Whos man enough to move into him and his "probable" for wednesday? I'm thinking I'm going to roll the dice on this one and take him
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| | | 108 | Yehosh
Donor
ID: 181082023
Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 15:05
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first he is probable, now he is questionable, all very confusing
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| | | 109 | C. Bird
ID: 5510211919
Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 15:38
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I'm not getting back into Kaman until I know for sure he's back and playing. I was planning on moving to LBJ/Kaman from Duncan/JRich but now I will just go TD to Howard. In another week Kaman should be back and I can move Howard/JRich to LBJ/Kaman. Howard has a 3 to 4 or 4 to 5 game advantage over LBJ anyway. I will hold Wallace until the end and then go into Dirk (probably).
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| | | 110 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 16:33
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I have held Kaman in hopes that he plays soon.
If I didnt have him I would not be getting back into him unless I saw he was playing.
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| | | 111 | Yehosh
Donor
ID: 181082023
Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 16:52
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The best alternative is probably Miller, which actually makes moving Richarson->Dirk very easy.
I haven't watched many SAC games lately, so I'm curious, is Millers new ~37-40 tsnp/g production rate a result of all the other injuries? is he just having a good season? he is obviously good value, and despite 3 games next week, the schedule isn't bad. So he may be teh safer choice
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| | | 112 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 18:31
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3 years ago Miller was a fantasy stud and inexpensive much like Kaman has been this year.
The next season he started off well but I think an injury slowed him down.
He seems to be getting back to the level he was at before the injury.
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| | | 113 | Yehosh
Donor
ID: 181082023
Tue, Jan 29, 2008, 19:08
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wow, Butler is going to hurt, especially if he misses Wednesday's game as well
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| | | 114 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 07:48
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If you are unsure what the column header means, hover over it with your mouse.
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| Rank | GurupieName | LSWP0 | LSWP | LSWP5 | WWR | FV | Cash | RV | FVC | Trades | | 1 | Yehosh-2949 | 14478.5 | 217.5 | 3128.5 | 22 | 80.48 | 3.36 | 77.12 | 0.18 | 4 | | 2 | Coach Bird-1379 | 14297.5 | 245 | 2993.5 | 12 | 77.30 | 3.56 | 73.74 | 0.30 | 4 | | 3 | Kal Zakath-4430 | 13914.5 | 147 | 2759.5 | 129 | 76.34 | 3.30 | 73.04 | 0.04 | 4 | | 4 | JMISA-6186 | 13788.5 | 164.5 | 2892.5 | 162 | 71.83 | 5.69 | 66.14 | 0.24 | 4 | | 5 | Guru-250 | 13517 | 183 | 2897 | 348 | 73.91 | 4.84 | 69.07 | 0.14 | 5 | | 6 | Weykool-4361 | 13514 | 236 | 2858.5 | 335 | 76.16 | 4.93 | 71.23 | 0.08 | 4 | | 7 | Florian-6066 | 13509.5 | 200.5 | 2794.5 | 268 | 75.71 | 0.58 | 75.13 | 0.04 | 4 | | 8 | kentucky indians-2450 | 13477 | 152.5 | 2903 | 132 | 74.05 | 0.01 | 74.04 | 0.20 | 4 |
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| | | 115 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 08:13
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7 Butlers left, I really can't afford to sell to be honest. Are most of you holding as well?
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| | | 116 | ki @ work
ID: 2836246
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 09:03
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four fresh trades...wow... do I want to burn three on the first day? Last night I was thinking about Bulter/Duncan/Parker to Lebron/Howard/??any position but under 1.5M??... I like how my team would look! Nobody else would need to be traded this week! Anthony Johnson fits the cheapie bill and he looks pretty locked into the Atlanta starting line-up. Any thoughts??
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| | | 117 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 10:23
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Interesting times...
I have both Butler and Amare, and 5 trades.
The original plan was to move Amare to LeBron today, and then JRich to Kaman at some point. I didn't plan anything else for this week, so I do have trades available.
After a bit of thinking, it seems my reasonable options include the following:
1. Move Amare to LBJ as planned. Move Butler to Kaman today. (Not quite enough cash to move Butler to Howard). Then move JRich back into Butler later in the week.
2. Move Amare to LBJ as planned. Move Butler to G. Wallace today. Then move JRich/GW back into Butler/Kaman later in the week.
3. Move Butler to LBJ today. Keep Amare for 2 more days, and them move Amare and JRich to Kaman and Butler this week, at whatever times seem appropriate.
Either of options 1 or 3 only use one extra trade vs. the orig plan by doing a Butler/JRich triangle. Option 1 takes a chance on Kaman tonight. I would then still have 2 trades this week for contingencies.
Option 2 uses an extra trade by moving back into GWallace, who will also have to be sold later in the week (or at worst, by next Tuesday). Of course, Wallace is no cinch to remain healthy for the whole week.
I'm kind of leaning toward option 1, as keeping Amare for an extra game (vs. SA, no less) probably costs almost as as much as simply holding Butler. This assumes, of course, the we don't get any early negative news on Kaman this afternoon.
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| | | 119 | Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 10:49
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I have:
Duncan
Butler
Stoudemire
Kaman
Camby
And 4 trades.
Will probably do:
Caron to Lebron
TD to Dwight (hold thru the 1 in 4 if I need to)
I could go Amare to Jamison but that leaves me with 1 trade with Camby/Kaman/Josh.
Looking forward to the ASB and the chace to bank a few trades.
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| | | 120 | Yehosh
ID: 2910291321
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 11:00
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Got:
Amare
Butler
TD
Jrich
and 4 trades. I already have Kobe and James.
Thinking
Amare+TD to Howard and Miller/Kaman
hold Buter and Rich->Dirk on sunday
If I survive the week without more injuries (yeah right) then I'll go Howard->Duncan on tuesday
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| | | 121 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 11:32
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I will caution everyone that there is still significant evidence that this is my "jinxed" team.
To wit:
1. Moved G Wallace to Butler last week.
2. Moved Kaman to Maggette last week.
Thus, if I move Butler to Kaman today, you should expect Kaman to DNP tonight. Or, if Kaman does play tonight, expect him to DNP on Friday or Saturday.
Forewarned is forearmed!
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| | | 122 | Yehosh
Donor
ID: 181082023
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 11:49
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I think we all had our share of injuries and disappointments lately. Heavily owned guys like Kaman, Wallace, Butler and Kidd have had their impact.
I'm not %100 sure holding Butler is the smartest thing to do. But I can't hold Amare or Duncan past thursday and Jrich as to go this week as well. Selling Butler will leave me tradeless very early and that is a scary thing this time of year. I think I'll suck up his DNP tonight and hope for the best. Am I being stupid holding him?
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| | | 123 | Yehosh
Donor
ID: 181082023
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 11:50
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maybe hoping he will play friday is too much of a gamble
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| | | 124 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 11:52
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Geez.
I suppose I could hold Caron but I have already sucked up the losses from Amare/Kaman and now Camby is losing money.
While my team has stll made money the problem is compared to other teams my RV is not gaining as much and I could find myself falling behind further.
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| | | 125 | Dean Martin
Donor
ID: 489552616
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 12:04
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*Intruder*
With Butler a big question mark now, you could argue logically that Duncan can in fact be held past Thursday, especially if you're trade challenged. Any $$ losses he incurs will come right back in 4 days, plus he's healthy. On the other hand gambling on holding Butler is an unknown as to how healthy he'll be upon return. If this injury lingers the money you stand to lose on Butler might not be recouped.
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| | | 126 | Yehosh
Donor
ID: 181082023
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 12:13
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all good points, But Duncan still has a 1 in 6. It really doesn't get worse then a 1 in 6, lol
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| | | 127 | Yehosh
Donor
ID: 181082023
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 12:19
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ok, new plan. My main problem is that I already have James and Jamison, 2 guys most people will be moving into.
Butler, Amare, Duncan to
Deron, Miller and Kaman/Howard (depending if Kaman is healthy
Richardson to Dirk on Sunday
Deron to Duncan on the 10th
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| | | 128 | ki @ work
ID: 2836246
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 14:24
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although I cannot use him on my GMD team.... with Varejao out for four weeks, isn't Drew Gooden attractive even though his recent numbers stink?
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| | | 129 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 16:19
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Now that Kaman sounds rather doubtful, I'm not sure what to do.
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| | | 130 | JMISA
ID: 42023413
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 16:37
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I had left myself 6 mill in cash for the refresh for flexability and now with butler hurt that throws it off
my staple moves are Duncan + Marion > LBJ + Howard
that leavs 2 trades with butler on the slot
Kaman seems like the best option but B Miller as the safest no other studs stick out as of otday but i people wouldn't mind wiaitng a day has anyone thought of Dirk?
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| | | 131 | Yehosh
Donor
ID: 181082023
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 17:14
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ok, decided to hold Butler. It's a left hip flexor, so I'm hoping for a game on friday. It was either that or holding Duncan who has a 1 in 6. Butler at least has a chance at an extra game and both will lose lots of RV.
Amare+Duncan to Howard+Miller
If Butler is OK for friday I will go
Richardson->Dirk on sunday and Howard->Duncan on friday
This is the most # of games I could plan for and the only big RV loser is Butler. Hopefully he'll stop dropping by saturday. It's a risk, but sometimes you gotta roll the dice.
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| | | 132 | Yehosh
Donor
ID: 181082023
Wed, Jan 30, 2008, 17:18
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oops, I meant Howard->Duncan on tuesday
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