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Subject: Soulman's '07-'08 GMD Team (TP6)

Posted by: Dave R - SuperDude [3010361110] Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 07:20

And we go forward

Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 14:14

Thanks Dave for starting the new TP thread. Seems your captain is too confused right now by the daily injuries that he even forgets to fulfil his duties...

Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 16:34

As you know, in addition to my team I'm currently watching over deejay's three teams and I must say the recent flurry of bad news is getting ridiculous. There literally are more players either questionable/probable/playing through injury/sucking/etc. than there are "healthy" slots!

So I'm inclined to hold everyone and wait what disasters have surfaced by tomorrow, especially as the only must-have option today (Kobe) is already on every roster. IMO there's no use in picking up Mavs today as they have a TSNP-killer matchup @BOS and then two days off. Plus I'm quite sure that either Josh or Dirk tweak an ankle should I pick them up anywhere today - for me, both have a well documented history of getting injured when it hurts my team most.

So no moves on any team and hoping for guys to recover swiftly or tough it out. Particularly LeBron is a clear hold IMO even if he misses tonight, as I believe being without him by next Tuesday could be disastrous.

Besides, all teams currently under my watch are already down to two trades, and judged by how things are going at the moment, being down to 1 or 0 by Thursday will spell Armageddon by weekend's time. Any other take on the situation?

Dilo
Donor
ID: 30912294
Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 17:47

to lazy to make up a plan right now, so I will hold LeBron, and think about it tommorrow.

bd
Sustainer
ID: 102112811
Thu, Jan 31, 2008, 21:43

LeBron out tonight.

turnabouts
ID: 6828256
Fri, Feb 01, 2008, 11:58

I think i will move LeBron and keep Duncan. Even if LeBron is playing on Saturday he have a 2 in 6 from today. Many managers have planned a 4 to 2 games swap in this days (with D. Howard for example) so with the injury news and the fact that he is the most owned forward in the game many more managers will get out of him.

The question is which player i want. I hope that Butler or Kaman will play today. Dwight Howard is not an option for me because i already have Williams and Crawford which both have to be moved next week (by the way Williams will be my way back into LeBron). If Kaman and Butler are no goes tonight i probably go to Brad Miller.

Gescom
Leader
ID: 520461315
Fri, Feb 01, 2008, 12:14

Holding Lebron. Whatever losses he will get will be recovered with this dense upcoming schedule and I don't have the luxury to go out and in this week. Besides that, the fact he tried to play last night leads me thinking his ankle injury is not that severe.

Dilo
Donor
ID: 30912294
Fri, Feb 01, 2008, 12:16

Same thoughts as turnabouts here. Holding Duncan, selling LeBron and Marion, for
a) Odom and D.Williams or D.Howard
or
b) D. Howard and D.Williams

The first is more secure and trade conservative, the second more agressive and projects more points. Any opinion.
P.S. this is a plan assuming theres no news on butler and Kaman (not going to wait till game-time)

Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Fri, Feb 01, 2008, 12:34

I'm holding James x4. Situation is the same as yesterday, there isn't any mid- or long-term-hold worth getting. And 3-for-1 swaps at the price of two trades isn't an option with a trade situation as tense as it is. I would be considering it if any of the teams under my watch had 5+ trades but they're all down to two, so patience is the way to go here.

@deejay - I'll go Maggette>Iggy on your "disaster" team. ;)

Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Fri, Feb 01, 2008, 12:35

BTW, I'm out now so good luck everybody tonight!

turnabouts
ID: 6828256
Fri, Feb 01, 2008, 19:01

I moved LeBron to Turkoglu. The money i've banked can be used to upgrade J-Rich to Dirk or even back to LeBron.

Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Sun, Feb 03, 2008, 12:57

As the Denver Post article in the injury thread leaves little doubt that Camby is going to play on Monday in what he says is "definitely a big game", I'm gonna hold him x4 and take his points from the Portland game. He then can turn Duncan on Tuesday. That basically means no Dirk for now but I prefer Duncan anyway due to the lower price and the flex. Dirk can be picked up at any time later if he doesn't revert to his early season slump and avoids turning an ankle. So today it's just JRich>JHoward.

deejay in Belgium
ID: 49039315
Sun, Feb 03, 2008, 16:36

Hey guys,

I was just quickly checking how things were going. I noticed a lot sat again.
In a few hours Im catching my flight back home and am ready starting tomorrow.

Thanks Soulman for covering my back.

deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 11:50

My plan is Duncan to Camby, today or tomorrow.
Hes Questionable, but that game is a little bit late for me(4 AM), thats a bummer.
If I hear more defenite (negative) news hes gone today. Otherwise it will have to be tomorrow, unless somebody would be willing to do the trade for me....

deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 11:51

oops Camby to Duncan of course.

deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Tue, Feb 05, 2008, 10:27

I used my last trade last night on Camby to Duncan, when I found out he was not in the line up.

bd
ID: 01081412
Tue, Feb 05, 2008, 17:47

Howard to Duncan for me today. It has been a rough week. I ended up without Kobe,Brad Miller or Josh Smith and it has really hurt. I was fortunate enough to get the combined 7.5 TSNP scored by Antonio Daniels in two of his games :(

deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Tue, Feb 05, 2008, 17:55

I am a Daniels owner too bd, so youre not alone, I remember him last season and this season killing for not having him, now that I have him he sucks.
Miller is in my plans, need to see him play first though.
Horford hasnt been really the best decision either.
Hoping for a big Paul game vs the Suns tomorrow.
Then he should become either Miller or Kaman...

Gescom
Leader
ID: 520461315
Wed, Feb 06, 2008, 13:44

So when we're communicating a lot, we're dropping in the GMD standings and when we're radio silent, we're going up. How funny is that ?
Captain, you need to monitor the team chemistry :)

Anyway, I'll throw some thoughts out there.

Kobe - hold until he dnps or really struggle with finger / Gasol / Shaq to the Suns or something else

Miller - hold. I won't be around at game time so hopefully that will be a one game thing in case he dnps.

Calderon - When is a good time to jump on board and more importantly, is it a good thing to jump on board ? Was ready to give up a Deron game and go Jose as soon as tomorrow but now will hold off at least till Sunday. If calderon is now a 35 tsnp vs a 42 tnsp guy, still worth own him but no reason to wash away games.

Boone Collector - Sucking a bit lately but decent schedule this week and low ownership doesn't make him - yet - a concern. Could look to upgrade after the Deron to Jose move.

Jamison. What's the exit date ? Can he last past 2/12 ? Could fit nicely to Paul on 2/12

Additional questions:
What are the 2 Camby owners doing ?

deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Wed, Feb 06, 2008, 14:07

well Ill chime in...

Kobe: defenitely staying till 2/12(He might become Paul that day or not)

Miller: not on my team, but in my plans.

Jamison: see Kobe

Calderon: was in my plans, but not sure anymore. 2/10 would be the ideal day to get him, need to think about it.

Paul: need to get someone from him tomorrow, was mainly looking at Baron/Kaman.

Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Wed, Feb 06, 2008, 14:38

"So when we're communicating a lot, we're dropping in the GMD standings and when we're radio silent, we're going up. How funny is that? Captain, you need to monitor the team chemistry :)"

I am monitoring but I'm trying to remain as silent as possible to enable us go up further... ;) But to quickly chime in:

1) Kobe - I won't be awake at gametime so he's a hold until he both DNPs *AND* is reportedly out for more than one game.
2) Miller - definitely holding. He'll be the guy to get by Friday at the latest.
3) Calderon - no hurry to get him (if at all), there are loads of options around and after the ASB. Right now I'm not planning according to who I'd like to get but instead see what must-sells emerge due to injury/trade/etc. Means right now I don't want to move anyone, regardless of who I'd be getting.
4) Jamison - I'd say let's see on 2/12 whether he can held past that date. Right now it's too hard to predict and pretty obvious that selling any earlier doesn't make sense.

So for my next moves I don't have any plans. I'll just go by who will go down next and miss extended time with an injury. There will be plenty of opportunities to blow trades, maybe as early as tomorrow after a busy game night...

bd
ID: 01081412
Wed, Feb 06, 2008, 15:33

I would like to rid myself of Antonio Daniels and Horford although neither is must sell because of their schedules.

I will need to sell D. Williams and Crawford after games on the 9th, so I may wait and package them at that time. I could go to Kaman from Horford, and am still considering it, but that would leave me with 3 trades with 2 of those already earmarked for Williams/Crawford.

With the amount of injuries, the trade deadline coming up and the fact that on some minor injuries the coaches may choose to let the player rest until the ASB. I don't want to be tradeless too early this week. So I'll probably hold Horford/Daniels for the time being.

Dilo
Donor
ID: 30912294
Wed, Feb 06, 2008, 15:49

No communication, no trades! ;)
Agree on 1 to 4 with the captain!

bd
ID: 31281917
Wed, Feb 06, 2008, 21:55

The saga continues... I had taken all I could and at the last minute I traded Horford to Kaman. Now I come home and see Horford with 15 points and 20 rebounds. I haven't even looked at the LAC box score yet, with my luck Kaman DNP'd.

OMG -- I sound like SU :) (except I'm not in the top 10 and complaining)

deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Thu, Feb 07, 2008, 08:00

My dilema of today.
Who to get from Paul?
Narrowed it down to Kaman/Dirk/Z...

Gescom
Leader
ID: 520461315
Thu, Feb 07, 2008, 09:03

Dirk in a heartbeat

turnabouts
ID: 6828256
Thu, Feb 07, 2008, 09:08

32

What about Brandon Roy?

For me it's Deron Williams to LeBron today. My LeBron replacement Turkoglu gave me 46,5 more TSNP than LeBron. I can live with that unnecessary trade.

deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Thu, Feb 07, 2008, 10:51

Could use another C, and Kaman seems the best value, Dirk has one game more though.
Z, him Im gonna scratch.

Not that crazy bout Roy turnabouts.
And a F or C would be better for the flex.

Kaman lets me turn Jamison into Paul again on the 12th(without necessarily involving another player). Dirk doesnt.

Decisions...

bd
ID: 01081412
Thu, Feb 07, 2008, 12:15

Deejay... it sounds as if you think Dirk is a C. He is only a forward this year.

bd
ID: 01081412
Thu, Feb 07, 2008, 12:19

From the three you list, I think Dirk will get more points. I have never been a big Z fan, so I would prefer Kaman over him if you're going for a C. I also see Kaman gaining more $$.

deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Thu, Feb 07, 2008, 12:31

36

Nope I know hes only F...
Its pretty much Dirk vs Kaman right now, leaning towards Kaman so I can do Jamison to Paul on the 12th... Dirk is very tempting though.

bd
Sustainer
ID: 102112811
Thu, Feb 07, 2008, 20:11

Rotoworld reporting Roy left Blazers for family reasons and is doubtful for Friday's game.

deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Fri, Feb 08, 2008, 05:39

With the news Miller is expected to play, Im more than tempted to go ACarter to him today.

Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Fri, Feb 08, 2008, 08:08

Deejay, if you wanted to move someone to Brad, why Carter? I think I would be more inclined to move Daniels. Carter has been considerably more productive IMO. Carter can be held a little longer, and if he keeps up the level of 27-29 TSN points per, for his price you could almost justify holding him through the 3rd week of March. Besides Daniels is a sore knee away from missing a game or two.

Keep a couple of trades handy for Jamison and Kobe on the 12th.

As far as my plans, after Crawford's B2B, he becomes Calderon. I gave consideration to doing it last night for the cash, but for 2 games to 1, couldn't justify it.

Beyond that I had planned Jamison to Paul on the 12th, holding Kobe. With Kobe's recent diminished production, I may revisit and move both that day, again being tradeless. I'll see what Kobe does over the next 3 games. And it seems there is a consensus here in the forum he needs to go. Hopefully a couple of strong games can turn him into a " hold ".

And I am a little tired of Marvin ;)

Gescom
Leader
ID: 520461315
Fri, Feb 08, 2008, 08:34

Agree with Dave on Carter vs Daniels.

Similar plans for me.
Deron -> Calderon on 2/10
Likely Boone -> Gay on 2/11
Jamison -> Paul on 2/12 for sure and may be Kobe -> Stoudemire on 2/12 as well pending Kobe's outcome in the next 3 games.

deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Fri, Feb 08, 2008, 08:44

Why Carter?

Well I considered Daniels, but Daniels has the xtra game if I go through with my plans.
Daniels has way fewer owners, and I really like the next 3 opponents(Den/GS/Suns, it doesnt get any better than that...)
And on 2/20 is either prolly gone anyway...
Daniels owes me some good games also :)
And it will take one stinker for a Carter panic.

Kobe becomes Paul on the 12th and Jamison becomes West prolly.(Or Gay, if I decide I want Dwights 6in9)
Daniels will become Calderon on 2/20 then and/or JHoward will become Dwight...

Does that make sense?

deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Fri, Feb 08, 2008, 09:35

I didnt explain it that well, concerning the xtra game.
I meant if I would decide to hold on to Jamison rather than Daniels on the 12th, and grab Rudy Gay then. Then it makes more sense to do Carter today, cuz he would then just have the b2b.
Jamison would then become either Calderon or West on 2/20...

Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Fri, Feb 08, 2008, 09:48

I'm not sure I understand all the love for Rudy Gay, here and in other threads. Especially if you wait until the 12th, today would be the time IMO.

Very short term unless you feel his production/price warrants holding through a series of 3 game weeks. And he has, starting 2/25, a 1-4, 3-8, 5-12, or 6-15, depending on how you slice it. Looks to me like the longest you would hold is 2/25.

deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Fri, Feb 08, 2008, 09:54

For me Gay is not set in stone Dave, defenitely not, I agree its rather shortterm.
West I like a lot more and I think I will go that way.

Gay would be to make Dwights 6in9 work, if Marvin Williams would play better he'd defenitely be a better option, schedulewise.

Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Fri, Feb 08, 2008, 10:14

I don't understand the need to move Jamison on the 12th, esp. with his 4/5 coming up. I can see moving him on the 27th, but not the 12th. It's got to be a money move only because from a points standpoint I don't see the advantage to moving him.

I can see the Kobe move on the 12th. But if he puts up 50's I'm leaving him be.

qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Fri, Feb 08, 2008, 10:25

*intruder

poor performance and high ownership Philsphan...that's as good a reason as any to trade someone IMO.

jamison is not worth 8 million on his best day...especially when he's struggling to score anything over 30 as of late. i think you will lose a lot of money if you try to hold Jamison until the 27th.

Philsphan
Donor
ID: 301442416
Fri, Feb 08, 2008, 10:36

I guess I need to redefine poor performance. His 7 and 14 day averages didn't seem too far off his season avg. But his high ownership does present problems.

Thanks.

qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Fri, Feb 08, 2008, 10:44

I agree that his performance isn't that far off what he usually does, but I think he only became so highly owned because a lack of options. With kaman, butler and the rest of the world all going down at the same time, he was one of the only viable options.

I wouldn't be able to handle 36 a game for 8 million for long, so I definitely can't do 34 a game. When players like Kaman, Miller, Bosh, etc. are scoring 40+ for cheaper. Plus his schedule is such that you can pick up a game.

Gescom
Leader
ID: 520461315
Fri, Feb 08, 2008, 18:38

Dave,
You're dead right on Gay. There's much better options out there.

The Bandwagon
Sustainer
ID: 479521116
Sat, Feb 09, 2008, 01:30

**Intruder**

#52 Based on 30 day averages over the next 33 days starting last night 2/8, 3 players 6 million or less project higher than Rudy Gay, (Brad Miller, Jose Calderon, and Corey Maggette). Two of those players everyone will have soon, and good luck with Maggette.

Yes there are better options than Rudy Gay, but unless you take Maggette, you'll have to pay over 6 million to get them.

Sincerely,
Rudy Gay's #1 fan who had to take Darko instead of Gay due to lack of available funds.

deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Sat, Feb 09, 2008, 06:29

Sorry Dave/Gescom should have listened, but I didnt.

deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Sat, Feb 09, 2008, 07:54

And now Im screwed, cant wait for the ASB.
I guess my option is
A. wait
B. Daniels/Kobe to Calderon/Paul today and be tradeless

With 880k in the bank I cant get much from Daniels...

I feel like crying.

Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Sat, Feb 09, 2008, 08:21

Well deejay, it sounds like Daniels will try and play. How effectively or long remains to be seen. I'm not sure I would consider swapping 2 Kobe for one Paul games ( or be tradeless for that matter ). Besides, you have Jamison who is bleeding and will continue to do so, come Tuesday ..... ouch.

Here's an interesting idea, how about moving Daniels to Carter ;)

deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Sat, Feb 09, 2008, 08:30

I guess waiting is the best, not even sure I want to move Kobe at all right now.

I also thought about Daniels to AJohnson today and then Jamison to Paul on the 12th (and just hold Kobe)... but Johnson only played 18 min last night, sked is getting sweet in Atlanta though.

Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Sat, Feb 09, 2008, 08:49

As a AJ holder, he is definitely sharing time. Last nights 18 minutes are a bit below his norm. None the less he has been relatively consistant in his performance. Keep in mind his price is less than 1 mill, so I'm not sure what the expectations should be. I think I'd rather have Carter however.

I don't think you have to rush to get Paul, at the risk of disrupting everything else. Tuesday, 2/20 works as well, maybe from TD.

deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Sat, Feb 09, 2008, 09:04

That TD to Paul, I agree on that Dave, in fact the was one of my back up plans. So thats certainly under consideration.

I could do Kobe/Daniels to Baron/Calderon today, but dont really feel lucky lately. So no go.

Back to Carter is not a bad idea, Dave, but not wild about it.

turnabouts
ID: 6828256
Sat, Feb 09, 2008, 09:09

I would also wait and see deejay. It seems that Kobe keeps playing and so long he did like yesterday i will keep him over the ASB. Daniels have one day rest and maybe he will come back on Sunday. This is not worth to burn a trade today and go to Anthony Johnson.

My plans are:

- keeping Turkoglu (like his flex) and Kobe
- tomorrow Crawford to Calderon
- on Tuesday Duncan/Jamison to Brad Miller/Paul (or Garnett)

Usual Suspects
ID: 99503022
Sat, Feb 09, 2008, 09:24

Sorry for the lack of posts and terrible recent play-I have been swamped. Did the unthinkable today and moved two cheapies for two other cheapies. Robinson & Turiaf clearly had to be moved. I picked up Mobley (who has been very consistent) and Radmanovic, who is all of a sudden playing like he has a complete game with the addition of Gasol.

Deejay-did you take a look at Mobley?

bd
ID: 31281917
Sat, Feb 09, 2008, 09:44

I have 3 trades and $1.41... Unfortunately I have D.Williams, Crawford, Daniels and Jamison(Duncan too) Can I borrow trades from someone?

Williams and Crawford are must sells IMHO. I plan to go to Calderon/J. Howard from them.

Options:
1) Sell Daniels today and go to one of J. Childress, Rondo or Fisher. This would mean holding Jamison at least to refresh.

2) Hold Daniels and eat whatever losses (and points) and on the 12th sell Jamison or Duncan to JSmooth. I know the talk is about selling Jamison, but he can actually be held a little longer than Duncan after the ASB.

Daniels has been frustrating and horrible but I think at this point holding until refresh may be the best option and moving Jamison or Duncan to JSmooth would be a better option.

Any thoughts.

deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Sat, Feb 09, 2008, 10:43

Thanks guys for the fb.

US, Mobley indeed looks like an option.
Gonna think it all through... right now I would say Im holding.

turnabouts
ID: 6828256
Sat, Feb 09, 2008, 11:18

63

Trade Deron Williams and Crawford tomorrow and keep the last trade till Tuesday. Then you will probably see which player is a must sell (Daniels, Jamison, Duncan). Jamison can be hold over the ASB but his price will drop big on Tuesday.

Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Sat, Feb 09, 2008, 11:44

I absolutely second what turnabouts suggests, deejay.

Dilo
Donor
ID: 30912294
Sat, Feb 09, 2008, 12:01

If everybody's posting, so do I.
I always would do what turnabouts suggests, so BD and DJ, you know what to do! ;)

I will sell Deron tomorrow, the question is which player should I buy. One of may plans (my favourite one) is getting bosh (really love the price and the schedule to come), then I'm able to move Jamison (seems the consens is to move him on 12th) to CP3. Other Canditates would be Gasol or Nowitzki.
Gasol would mean I keep Jamison over the ASB and get Paul from Duncan.
Nowitzki would mean I keep Duncan and Jamison over the ASB.

Turnabouts, i'm sure you know what to do. :)

deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Sat, Feb 09, 2008, 12:59

Seems we have a team vote and it says holding, exactly what Im gonna do then.
No move that makes sense anyway.

Dilo
Donor
ID: 30912294
Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 05:12

Ok, new plan!
Today D.Williams, A.Johnson, J.Smith to Calderon, Bosh and Odom or J.Howard (please vote). Then on Tuesday from Jamison back to Josh Smith. No Paul til Wednessday after the ASB for me.
This leaves me with a lot of flexibility and whats more important I'm able to upgrade minute-starving A.Johnson to Calderon.
What do you think?

Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 05:28

Dilo, I'd not move JSmooth to be honest. Just do Deron/AJ > Calderon/JHoward (I prefer him over Odom) today. Bosh has time until after the ASB, I don't need his head-to-head against Duncan. Also, I think you somehow should work Paul on 2/12 into your plan. Don't forget that money is made by doing the moves when everybody does them. Bosh before Paul is exactly the wrong order.

Dilo
Donor
ID: 30912294
Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 05:58

I would love to do it that way soulmamn, but upgrading Johnson to Calderon just with williams today, needs to include a player under 6,42 mio.

deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 06:02

Josh Dilo.

turnabouts
ID: 6828256
Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 06:37

69

I agree with Soulman. Don't trade Josh Smith today.

The other question is how safe is Calderon? I know i want him by myself but the ASB gives Ford more time to get his condition back. The question is how much will he cut in Calderons minutes? This is a tricky situation. But on the other hand there is no real good alternative out there in Calderons price range.

deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 07:09

I for one am very tempted to do Horford to Calderon today.
Kobe is staying past ASB I think.
So leaves one trade for either Jamison or Duncan on tuesday.
Jamison to West
Or
Duncan to Paul(280k window if I do get Calderon today, 180k window if I dont) would that be...
Still leaves Daniels, but I think I will just keep him till refresh(and possibly package him with JHoward), sitting or not. Dont see anyone in that range that I really want.
The remaining one out of Duncan/Jamison would become Bosh on 2/20.

Out of the 150 plans I made so far, I like this one best.
Almost all other plans have me selling Kobe on tuesday, and I think I want to keep him at least till 2/21.

What are you all doing with Kobe?

turnabouts
ID: 6828256
Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 07:55

I think I will keep Kobe till 2/27.

Horford will stay on my team for now. His c/f flex can be helpful in the next weeks.

Today i go from Crawford to Calderon. I don't like Rondo and another alternative is not out there.

Gescom
Leader
ID: 520461315
Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 07:59

Holding Kobe forever I think. If Friday game is an indication on how an healthy Kobe will play with Gasol, he's a hold till 3/1 IMO.

Deron -> Calderon for me today. Even with Ford eating in his PT, he's still offer decent points for his price tag and should make a ton of money over the ASB.

Not sure what to do yet with Boone. Was looking at Stojakovic tomorrow but may very well hold forever as Krstic seems to be eating Williams PT, not Boone's one.

Jamison -> Paul is locked on Tuesday.

Will hold Duncan over the ASB and convert him into Kaman on 2/20. Carter will also depart on 2/20, not sure to who yet, may be Maggette or Turkoglu

I don't currently have an in to Bosh which may not be a bad thing as my personal history with him has a proven track record of failures.

Agree with the group, Smith should not leave today.

deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 08:04

Its not Horford is a must sell, by no means, but in my case it makes sense... I think.
I kind of really want Calderon on my team, and today seems the day or I have to wait till 2/20, and then he could be a mil more expensive.

Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 09:10

Sorry for not giving detailed feedback on each question raised but maybe my own plan gives answers as to what my take on certain topics is:

2/10 Horford>Calderon
2/12 Kobe>Paul + Jamison>(any $6m guy)
2/20 Duncan>Bosh + ACarter>Kaman

That leaves me with 5 trades through the ASB and 7 through the trade deadline. Most of which probably will desperately be needed to account for all the player movement usually going on around the All-Star Weekend. Actually I'd be shocked if after the ASB I still want the same guys that currently I believe I want by that time.

Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 09:23

Wow what problems we all have, myself included. The way things have been going for this team, I probably should not offer any opinions. But....

Dilo, I'm sitting with AJ also and have no clue. I'm not sure I'd pick up Josh Howard. I have him on a lot of teams and can't wait to drop him, probably for Bosh after the ASB.

Deejay, you're sitting with a gimpy, game time decision in Daniels and want to trade a healthy Horford who has a wonderful schedule? I think Calderon is very desirable, but in moving Horford and holding Daniels, I think you are asking for problems.

As far as my team, Calderon is coming on board today, the plan was from Crawford. AJ just keeps losing minutes, seemingly sitting more than playing. Although for his price and schedule.. So....

1) Crawford=> Calderon, hold AJ
2) AJ=> Calderon, hold Crawford through his 3 day hole
3) AJ/Crawford => Calderon/Rondo. What is everyones take on Rondo? Will his production suffer greatly with KG's return today or when ever?
4) AJ/Crawford => Carter/Calderon
5) AJ/Crawford => Calderon and a F like Peja or Darko

A cheaper option like Carter/Darko or Peja will leave cash to move Jamison to Paul on Tuesday. Other wise Jamison needs to be moved to a cheaper player such as David West.

Seems like there are allot wanting to trade Carter, just when I'm thinking of getting him. Doesn't leave me a warm and fuzzy feeling, But a sub 3 Mill guard with a decent long term schedule doesn't seem like a bad option. His YTD through 7 day averages are pretty consistant, between 26 and 29. Much better value than Jamison etc.

deejay
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Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 09:31

Daniels is gone on 2/13 Dave either way, if he plays well good, if he doesnt well so be it.
He has few owners left.
And I really want Calderon today.
That way I can study the cheapies a bit more and take my decision on wednesday.
Believe I turned it around and around and around, and this works the best for me.

Dilo
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Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 09:33

Ok, new plan: Williams, J Smith and Johnson to Calderon and Big Z and J. Howard. Then on Tuesday Jamison to Smith or Paul.
I dont think either that it makes sense to move Smith today for most of the teams, but I'm desperately looking forward to upgrade A.Johnson to Calderon today, and as I kind of triangle right back to Smith, i think i'ts the best for my team. Just over the period of from today to tuesday after the ASB it projects about 100 points more than holding smith and johnson and of course the gains of calderon.

Dilo
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Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 09:44

Dave, i like 4 and 5 the best. Rondo seems to profit from KG's absence, so he's not an option for me.
You really made me unsure about J.Howard right now. So another poll:
Bosh or J. Howard today? (Odom was voted out the last time)

Dave R
SuperDude
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Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 09:53

Dilo, I think Bosh is a great pick up, much better than Odom.

Dilo, I wasn't thrilled with my choices 1-3 either. Kind of thought Carter made sense but with the overriding sentiment to drop him, I'm not so sure. He projects better than any sub 3 Mill player than Peja using 30 day averages for 21 days and the best for 28 days. Quite honestly I don't get the desire to drop him.

Soulman
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Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 09:58

#80
Dave, my favourite would be (1). By far actually.

BTW: I'm not planning to move Carter post ASB because I'm unhappy with him. On the contrary - he is continuing to do a good job and IMO is worth a slot on any roster right now. Only thing is that on 2/20 there are great opportunities to upgrade him to a $7m player. This is what I'm setting now with my pre-ASB moves set up now so I'm not forced to rely on picks a la Peja or Darko.

deejay
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Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 10:04

83

Bosh.

80

not too wild about Rondo.
Would say 1, 4 or 5.
Out of those I dont really know, looking at Peja myself, but he scares me.
Exactly why I do Horford to Calderon today, so I have some days to pounder those 3mil options... and at same time, I still get to own Calderon.

bd
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ID: 102112811
Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 10:22

D. Williams/Crawford --> Calderon/J. Howard today. I don't have any flex so I need to take guards. J. Howard has a great schedule and is capable of big games. He also gives me flex to go Jamison/Paul (If desired) although I plan to go Jamison to J. Smith.

My only real concern is that I also have Dirk... it seems if one has a great game the other doesn't. Lately it's been Dirk with the big games.

Dave I like option #1.
I however think Rajon is a viable option for those considering a cheaper guard option. It sounds as if KG may sit until the All-star break which helps him short term.

About Daniels...I'm holding him only because I have bigger issues. I don't expect him to play tonight though. He is not listed as a probable starter (Mason is) in the Washington Times this AM.

bd
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Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 10:30

Thought I would just add this that shows probable starters at the end of the article. I don't think it is anything new that hasn't been covered in the injury thread.

Daniels may sit.

Gescom
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Sun, Feb 10, 2008, 17:28

Dave,

5) Calderon / Peja

Dilo

Bosh

Gescom
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Mon, Feb 11, 2008, 08:33

I've changed my mind on Kobe. I've found rotations that gain a minimum of 140 pts till 2/28 by trading him tomorrow. For one extra trade, I'll take that.

So that means Boone, whose stinker last night sealed his fate, will convert today to Turkoglu and not Peja.

That will give me after Carter's departure on 2/20 a cheapie-less team for the first time of the season.

turnabouts
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Mon, Feb 11, 2008, 09:50

By the way we are back on the second place. Good work team!

Gescom
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Mon, Feb 11, 2008, 10:08

Echo that

deejay
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Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 08:32

And now there is Josh, doesnt sound too good to me, 2 other Josh's, what are you doing?

Dave R
SuperDude
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Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 08:39

Somehow this injury plagued team avoided Josh, but on others it will be Josh => Paul and hold Jamison.

bd
ID: 31281917
Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 08:47

I only have one trade. Who would you trade, Josh Howard or Antawn??? Then, who do you go to, Paul or JSmooth.

Chris Paul will gain more today, both have great schedules but many already own JSmith.

I was leaning toward Howard to SMith, but the $$ increase is making lean toward Paul now.

deejay
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ID: 501182710
Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 09:02

Jamison/Duncan defenitely stay on my team.

I seem to have the choice between:
A. Daniels to another cheapie: Not gonna do that, so scratch that.
B. Josh to (someone like) West today, Daniels to something 4mil tomorrow, jikes.
C. Kobe to Paul today, package Josh/Daniels tomorrow (12mil'ish duo, like Maggette/Turk)
D. Kobe to West today, Daniels to Roy and Josh to any 8mil player tomorrow, Duncan/Jamison would become Paul and someone post ASB.

I prefer C and D.
Though I dont really want to sell Kobe, it seems my best bet.
Back to the drawing board.

deejay
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Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 09:04

97

Defenitely hold Jamison then bd. Imho.

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Dave R
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Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 09:30

deejay, just curious why TD definitely stays and you're thinking of trading Kobe. Kobe plays 2 more games between now and 3/1 when he transitions nicely back to TD.

Why not move TD to Paul if you want Paul today and hold Kobe.

And if you need a cheap replacement for Daniels, Peja looks promising ( and G/F is an extra bonus )

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deejay
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Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 09:48

Thought about that too Dave, but Kobe frees more cash so I dont have to get someone like Peja.
That was my thinking.
I really like the GF thingy though.

If Im going that route... Then Josh to West today looks more appealing to me it seems.
And get Paul from Duncan on 2/20.

This is really a messy situation.

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turnabouts
ID: 461061517
Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 09:55

First of all i would say Josh Howard is the most selling candidate today. Duncan, Jamison, Kobe and Dirk can all be held but all four will bleed today. Anyway I would trade one or two of the 4 mentioned. Duncan will be the logical choice because he have the worst schedule. Then Jamison. Then Dirk and then Kobe. But the problem with Kobe is that he frees up cash and give up a guard roster spot for Paul. That's why he will lose big today.

So i am not really sure what to do. If money won't be an issue both Dirk and Kobe can be held till 3/4 (Dirk) and 3/5 (Kobe). Both have good transitions (Dirk to Deron Willians on 2/26 and Kobe to Duncan on 3/1) but will i take all the losses and wait till then?

But what i know today is that i want Brad Miller and Paul.

With this two additions i will have almost the same team than Gescom. With exception of Horford and this makes me a little bit nervous.

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Dilo
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Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 10:03

I'm going Jamison back to J.Smith today (think jamison will lose more then Duncan). If I were you BD I would go Smith, not because I think that he will gain more, but 3 Smith to 2 Paul should at least equal the points, and I think Smith is a must have with the upcoming schedule. Paul I will get on the 20th, that should be an option for you too.

DJ, I looked at youre team and for you I think the Kobe-Route makes sense.

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Gescom
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Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 10:40

My predictions for today's loses:
1) J.Howard - He's injured
2) Jamison - enters a 2-in-6
3) Kobe - frees up cash and G spot for non flexible Paul buyers
4) Duncan - I suspect a lot of owners will hold today and convert to Kaman on 2/20.
5) Nowitzki - No real reason to sell him today

Tournabouts, depending on who you sell today, we should still have at least 2 different guys and may be 3. Still some room to battle :)

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deejay
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Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 13:39

Ive found something that I might like:
today: Josh Howard to Rondo
tomorrow: Daniels to Turky
2/20: Jamison/Duncan to Paul/West

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Soulman
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Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 13:48

#95
JHoward is gone for me today. Back injuries combined with long flights aren't good.

#97
bd, absolutely move Josh and hold Antawn. With only one trade, injured players have to leave first. As for your target, I'd get Paul today if you plan to get both Paul and Smooth (you could get Smooth tomorrow or next Tuesday). If you plan to skip either of them (which I don't recommend), I'd get Smooth over Paul.

#98
Tricky situation, deejay. I seem to like B and C best. You could vary B by going from Josh to someone cheaper than West (Sheed perhaps?). Not sure which route to go in your case though.

BTW, I totally second Gescom's ranking of today's losers - the biggest hits will be on Josh, Jamison and Kobe. Duncan does not have to be sold today, he transitions too well into other options on 2/20 or 2/22. Which I guess is what most people plan to do with him.

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Soulman
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Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 15:21

With three available trades and Josh/Kobe/Antawn as probable big losers tonight, I have several decisions to take today, some of which I could use a team vote on.

Kobe>Paul is locked for me today. Had looked at holding Kobe but the numbers clearly have it as inferior route due to Kobe's hefty price tag. So his money needs to be freed. Selling the injured Josh Howard is also a lock today. I'm also pretty much decided to move Jamison for the money swing and the game gained with his exit options. So currently, I'm pondering about which combo to get from JHoward+Jamison. It can be any two of the following players, only prerequisite being that I need one G and one F:

Pierce, Paul (GF) 7690
West, David (F) 6680
Billups, Chauncey (G) 6680
Wallace, Rasheed (FC) 5720
Rondo, Rajon (G) 4160

Thanks in advance for your vote!

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Gescom
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Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 15:37

105

I like it

107

Without looking at the numbers, Rondo / West would have my vote.

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deejay
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Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 15:53

107

And because not Im gonna get him too prolly.
West can easily be bought on 2/20 is the reason behind it.

108

I kind of really like it too.
The only thing is West might not be West, if the price swings are too big, but I guess I could then settle for Maggette.
But I kind of really like West.

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deejay
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Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 15:54

Oops Soulman, I misread, you need a duo... West/Rondo prolly then indeed.

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Dilo
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Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 16:00

107
Spontaneous: West and Rondo

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Soulman
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Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 16:12

Seems most of you favour Rondo/West, but while closely looking at the schedule, I'm actually beginning to like the Rondo/Pierce combo most. Here's why:

The next seven Celtics matchups are extremely TSNP friendly, while the Hornets schedule might produce a few ugly nights from West (facing Duncan, Dirk, Yao, Big Ben). Plus Chandler is back and might eat into West's boards. Detroit's matchups also are quite favourable, but not as much as Boston's. Additionally, Celtics could be held until 1/3 while Pistons probably would have to leave on 2/26.

Anybody following/objecting to my reasoning?

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bd
ID: 01081412
Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 16:13

Soulman I think there are a couple of other options that may be considered as well. I'm sure you've already looked at them but the ones I think of are... Joe Johnson, B. Roy, Turk, and Kaman.

I like 4 of the 5 options... with Rasheed being the one I am not that high on.
I had Rasheed, he was very consistent during that time giving me 28 - 32 points per game. Didn't excite me and I kept thinking I wanted to trade him, but he wasn't hurting either so I held him for a long time.

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qwert
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Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 16:23

*intruder*

with a similar situation, i am going with rondo and al jefferson/bosh

extra trade, but long term hold in bosh that gets an extra game over west, possibly with significantly better production

i don't like Pierce, Rasheed or Chauncey, just because they are very expensive for 30 something TSNP

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Soulman
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Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 16:26

#113
Thanks for the additional options bd, but you're right in that I already looked at them and ruled them out for the following reasons:

Turk - loses a game compared to BOS or DET

Roy/Kaman - I wanted to get guys who have minimum 3 games between today and next Wednesday. Kaman and Roy still can be picked up on 2/20 and 21, respectively.

JJ - has an awful TSNP difference between road and home game averages. Not good a good outlook if after tonight's game versus Boston the Hawks have 6 games on the road.

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Dilo
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Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 16:31

Soulman, then keep Kobe and buy Paul and Sheed (but I don't like) him that much either).

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deejay
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Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 16:37

I finally narrowed it down to 2 plans.
Two plans I kind of like equally like.
One has me selling Kobe today, the other hasnt...
A.
JoHo to Rondo(today)
2/13 Daniels to Turk
2/20 Duncan/Jamison to Paul/West(or Maggs if cash shortage)

B.
Kobe to West(today)
2/13 Daniels to Roy and JoHo to Turk
2/20 Duncan/Jamison to Paul/8mil player like Bosh

Sorry for the multiple posts, but Im in a little pickle.
Can I get a team vote? :)

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bd
ID: 01081412
Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 16:43

J Howard --> Paul for me today.

It's a lot simpler when you only have one trade:(
Jamison...please make all your seller's pay!

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Soulman
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Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 16:45

#114
Thanks qwert for helping an opposing team's Captain! :) Basically, I also like Bosh/Jeff over Pierce but I'm planning to pick both of them up anyway after their sched holes - for my roster they would transition perfectly from Carter (2/20) and Iggy (2/24), respectively. Plus the Celtics' IND-NYK-DEN-GSW-PHO stretch within 7 days is really very very tempting...

#116
Sorry, but on my team Kobe definitely leaves today. His money needs to be redistributed and today is when I can do it while also picking up a game.

#117
I like (A) better, deejay.

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deejay
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ID: 501182710
Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 16:57

I think Im ageeing Soulman, only downside might be missing out on West, but West could be bought a few days later too.
New Orleans' opponents are not too funny either.

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Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 17:14

I'm just moving Jamison to Paul, holding Kobe. I'll take the price hits, his schedule is to good. Holding TD too, and taking his price hits.

And I would if I had more than one trade ;)

Soulman, my one concern about Rondo is KG's impending return ( Pierce also I guess ) as was stated by Dilo in post 83

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turnabouts
ID: 6828256
Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 17:21

soulman:

I don't understand your love for Pierce, Rasheed and Billups. The only good thing about them is their good transition dates on 2/26 and 2/28. I would prefer West/Rondo too.

deejay:

I have Turkoglu by myself but is it not too late to grab him tomorrow? But good for me and my money...

I would vote for A)

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turnabouts
ID: 6828256
Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 17:29

My plan is very aggressive:

Jamison/Kobe - Paul/Brad Miller today
Horford - Amare Stoudemire tomorrow
Dirk - Roy on tuesday
A. Carter/Duncan - Kaman/Bosh on wednesday

This gives me a team i really like:

Paul
Roy
Turkoglu
Calderon
Josh Smith
LeBron
Bosh
Stoudemire
Brad Miller
Kaman

It's not easy to give up Kobe today and Dirk in two days because they still have a good schedule but i like my new very balanced cheapie less team a lot. Let's hope that the ASB or the trading deadline or any injuries don't destroy my plans.

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Blooki
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Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 17:36

...Dirk in two days...

Sorry, this reply adds no real content, but I just found it amusing that we fantasy junkies consider days with no scheduled games to not really be days at all. ;) (Unless I'm misreading your post turnabouts. My apologies if I am.)

Here's hoping we spend the much needed All-Star Break wisely.

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Gescom
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Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 17:42

So Turnabouts, it will be your Roy / Bosh vs my Dirk / Maggette starting 2/20.

Deejay, A as well.

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turnabouts
ID: 6828256
Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 17:43

124

You're totally right. I really need the ASB for myself and i will enjoy the days without thinking about my team.

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bd
ID: 01081412
Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 17:48

It's days like this that I think are the most interesting. Everyone has different ideas and plans, not everyone is going down the same path...at least for the next few games. Usually the first 2/3 of the season you are trying to follow the crowd (i.e. $$) Obviously with my FV I'm not the greatest at that...so to me the best part of the season is near the end when more chances are taken and rosters diversify.

Turnabouts...that is a nice line-up. Do you have any concerns that Shaq will negatively affect Stoudemire after the ASB?

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Gescom
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Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 17:50

What do you mean Blooki ? Everyone knows there's 162 days in a year. Like everyone knows there's 24 hours in a day.

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Soulman
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Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 17:55

#122
Too funny, somehow I knew you would be puzzled by my considering the guys you mentioned... :) But you know me well enough to know that I mostly focus on talent/schedule and seldom care about averages. After all, between averages and talent/schedule, the latter are the steady factors, aren't they? ;)

#124
Ahh, only now that you mention it I finally realize that the ASB are actually days... ;))) All those years I was under the firm assumption that it's just a bunch of grey lines in the schedule indicating NBA player movement time and the switch from money focus to TSNP focus... ;)

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Soulman
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Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 17:57

LOL Gescom, exactly what my knowledge was. My perception of the universe is shaken by Blooki's claiming that there are actual days without scheduled games...

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turnabouts
ID: 6828256
Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 18:00

125

You really go to Maggette? He is the same "hate" player for me in fantasy than Mo Williams. And my feelings told me that he will be traded this year...

Is your plan to go back from Dirk to Kobe on 2/23? I toyed with this idea the whole day but i need the money from both players to get all the players i like.

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Soulman
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Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 18:06

Gescom, I agree with turnabouts on Maggs. I'm glad you guys talked me out of him when I wanted to pick him up right before his multi-DNP stint. He definitely has secured a place in my dream roster along guys like MoWill, JermO and TMac.

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turnabouts
ID: 6828256
Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 18:07

127

I don't think that Shaq is really an impact. First of all he must play a game. Then he must learn to play the Phoenix run and gun style. With his bad conditioning this will require weeks from now. Till then Amare is never on my team.

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Gescom
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Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 18:29

I think Shaq will be beneficial to Amare tsnp and that Amare is the true fantasy gainer of Marion's trade.

Agree with you guys that Maggette is a risky pick but I'm using the following rationale: no one doubts that a healthy and rested Maggette can be very solid for a stretch of 2-3 weeks. That's this post ASB Maggette I'm expecting. If he goes off while nobody has him, nice differenciator. If he goes down with an injury, which I'm fully expecting, I'll have the trades to handle. And I reserve the right to change my mind by 2/20 ;) He's the kind of player you can only gamble on with a bunch of saved trades which we were not having a couple weeks back when he was tempting.

Thought about going back to Kobe with Dirk on 2/23 but am likely going to be short of cash. Dirk will most likely convert in Deron or Al Jeff on 2/26 but may back for the 4 in 5 and leave for good on 3/4.

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deejay
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Tue, Feb 12, 2008, 18:46

A. it shall be.

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deejay
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Wed, Feb 13, 2008, 08:06

New dilemma...
Gay/West vs Turk/Maggette ?
Which duo you prefer ?

The plan is to move Daniels today, he caused me nuff harm and is still questionable.
Now if I get Turkoglu today, then I lock myself out of the duo that I like most on 2/20 being Paul/West(from Jamison/Duncan). Price changes were a tad heftier than expected...

I know Gay is rather shortterm, but so is Turk.
And by getting him I can get West rather than Maggette.

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deejay
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ID: 501182710
Wed, Feb 13, 2008, 08:21

Gay could be Hill btw.

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deejay
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Wed, Feb 13, 2008, 15:57

I see ADaniels got updated to Probable...
Well then I might just hold today, and package TD/Jamison and him on the 20th, that solves my dilemma too.

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deejay
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ID: 501182710
Wed, Feb 13, 2008, 19:16

changed my mind and went Daniels/Jamison to Roy/Turkoglu.

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bd
ID: 31281917
Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 01:24

Only had 1 trade yesterday and used it and lost $400+ K yesterday. Held all my guys today Duncan/jamison/daniels... lost another $340K. Good news is I had a pretty good night, but it would be nice to have all the $$$ back . Carter wasn't good, but everyone else was fine and Odom and Dirk really helped. One of the few times I didn't regret having Josh Smith.

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qwert
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 01:57

*intruder

ain't that a shame that you didn't take a flyer on hill deejay

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deejay
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ID: 501182710
Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 05:08

I always take the wrong one qwert, getting used to it. Its just not my year.
Even Gay would have been fine, but no I had to go and get the most expensive one.

And I officially hate Daniels.

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deejay
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 10:35

My plan is to go Kobe or Duncan to Amare today and Kobe or Duncan to Paul on 2/20. Not sure in which order though, Duncan will prolly lose more cash, but I like the Cha matchup more.

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turnabouts
ID: 461061517
Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 10:39

Anthony Carter gives me headaches. But i can't move him before wednesday without changing my plans. Till then he will lose more money than any other player. I hope he outduels Rondo on Tuesday but i don't really believe it.

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turnabouts
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 10:41

145

Go and trade Kobe. We have 8 Duncans in our GMD team. This can be a nice differator.

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deejay
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ID: 501182710
Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 10:54

Yes Kobe's gone today, but gonna take Dwight instead of Amare after all I think.
Kobe to Dwight today
Duncan to Paul on 2/20

I like that.

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Soulman
Donor
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 13:37

#122
"I don't understand your love for Pierce, Rasheed and Billups."
turnabouts, do you now? ;) For Pierce at least? He's done exactly what I thought, i.e. fill the stat sheet in favourable matchups. Lots more to come hopfeully.

BTW, Rondo is amazing. I first had doubts (like I had with Calderon), but he's totally convinced me now. Come to think of it, Rondo absolutely looks like the second coming of Calderon now. Not a bad guard duo for approx 8m combined! :)

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Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 14:09

Kudos to you Soulman for choosing the Celtics, I am kicking myself for not grabbing Rondo from AJ earlier, discouraged by a couple of thoughts expressed here.

But KG's return post break ( supposedly ) could somewhat dampen their lofty outputs. I assume you only want them to hold on until 2/26.

Meanwhile, enjoy the ride.

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Gescom
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 18:14

Yes Kudos Soulman, you gained 150 pts thanks to your Celts duo.

Not sure what to do either with Carter. Likely holding till 2/20

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Soulman
Donor
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 18:44

Thanks guys, it's rare enough that I pick what seems to have been the best option.

And yes Dave - until 2/26 definitely to collect all the good matchups. If there are other pressing needs and they keep doing well, I might extend to 2/28 or even further but that remains to be seen. Sorry BTW to also have joined the thoughts that discouraged you from getting Rondo. That was when I still doubted him, but since then I must admit my take on him has entirely changed.

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Gescom
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Thu, Feb 14, 2008, 20:24

Just did something probably stupid. Went Carter / Duncan -> Roy / Hill. Means no Kaman or Bosh in the near future.

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Dilo
Donor
ID: 30912294
Fri, Feb 15, 2008, 04:19

Yesterday I pulled the emergengy break on losing money. Avoided the losses from Kobe, Ilgauskas and Carter, and went Sefolosha, Stoudamire, and Roy. So far so good. This allows me to go Duncan -> Paul, and upgrade Gay to some 8.1 Mio Forward or Center, which i think will be Kaman. And as turnabouts said Stoudamire is the perfect way back into Duncan.

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deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Fri, Feb 15, 2008, 05:32

I did end up with Amare last night...

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Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Fri, Feb 15, 2008, 07:48

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GURUPATRON BONUS MATERIAL
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Rank	GurupieName	LSWP0	LSWP	LSWP5	WWR	FV	Cash	RV	FVC	Trades
1	turnabouts-1495	17522.5	81	3518.5	23	80.09	1.47	78.62	-0.07	3
2	Gescom-1851	17507	98	3583	25	81.42	2.38	79.04	0.32	2
3	Soulman-786	17321.5	33.5	3461.5	57	81.62	1.41	80.21	0.10	3
4	Dave R-4326	17098	47.5	3221.5	162	81.49	1.27	80.22	-0.11	4
5	BD-1544	16988	47.5	3319	105	73.14	0.64	72.50	-0.37	4
6	Dilo-1633	16923	72	3376	82	75.19	4.40	70.79	0.22	1
7	Usual Suspects-1857	16899	47.5	3058.5	75	75.73	1.12	74.61	-0.11	3
8	deejay-168	16887	33.5	3206.5	131	78.96	4.18	74.78	0.11	1

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