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Subject: RIHC 2008-09: Regular season discussion


  Posted by: Guru - [330592710] Sat, Oct 25, 2008, 20:18

Waivers will clear on Monday.

Don't forget to set your lineups. By default, all of your players will be on the bench until you move them into starting slots.

Guidelines for Injury Slot designations are in a separate thread.
 
1Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Mon, Oct 27, 2008, 20:53
Picked up Ben Wallace for Mike Dunleavy to IS
 
2Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Mon, Oct 27, 2008, 23:20
Since this is the RIHC, you should clarify whether you mean Dunleavy Jr. or Dunleavy Sr.
 
3Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Tue, Oct 28, 2008, 00:29
I'm speechless. (You don't see that every day) I guess it didn't stop me from posting, though.
 
4holt
      ID: 46750221
      Tue, Oct 28, 2008, 01:21
Just got my tickets in the mail for the Thunder/Bucks game Wednesday night (off of ebay off some scalper who lost money in the deal). Ya, two crappy teams, but I'm pumped. Let the OKC NBA era begin!
 
5Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Tue, Oct 28, 2008, 09:10
Here comes opening night. Let's do this thing!
 
6Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Oct 28, 2008, 13:12
Let the OKC NBA era begin!

There's something about that statement that just rings funny! But, congrats holt on getting the team. OKC did well with the Hornets, so why not?

Their road unis are awful though.
 
7holt
      ID: 29913193
      Tue, Oct 28, 2008, 16:47
Durant being the only OKC player to be drafted before the 10th round really drove home how unspectacular their roster is. Not that I'm complaining. We're all happy to have an NBA team here now. But, argh. :D
 
8Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Wed, Oct 29, 2008, 06:18
I think i'm going to enjoy owning Rudy Fernandez this year. Ranked #2 in Yahoo after 1 day behind Kobe ;)

BTW, it is still my intention to write some kind of weekly recap for RIHC. Not quite sure of the format yet, but i'll give it some thought over the next while.
 
9Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Oct 29, 2008, 09:09
The daily standings and roster summary page is now up:
http://rotoguru1.com/hoop/RIHC.html

You can also get there by clicking on the RIHC icon on the left panel of the blurb page.
 
10Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Oct 29, 2008, 12:39
Radmanovic baby! 5 boards, 2 threes and 4 steals!
 
11Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Wed, Oct 29, 2008, 13:31
#8 Please include a category for most discussion thread posts. I think I've got a shot at the title.
 
12Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Wed, Oct 29, 2008, 13:33
Species, not bad for an IS pickup.
 
13KnicksFan
      Sustainer
      ID: 030815418
      Wed, Oct 29, 2008, 16:08
I disregarded shooting percentages when drafting but now that I'm looking at my team in Yahoo I think I might challenge Species for the bottom!
 
14Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Wed, Oct 29, 2008, 19:05
I'm personally hoping that since Lebron clunked his FT's twice with the game on the line (not even close misses), he might decide to focus on his FT shooting this year, since he says his game has gotten so much better since last year, and he wants to win a championship. Probably won't happen, but it's nice to imagine.
 
15KnicksFan
      ID: 188563018
      Wed, Oct 29, 2008, 21:03
picked up Etan Thomas for injured Glass Oden
 
16Florian
      ID: 272433110
      Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 12:10
I'm not too happy with my team so far as seen by the four moves I've already made. I'll probably regret some of the moves, but at least I'll lead the league in moves made.
 
17Florian
      ID: 272433110
      Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 12:21
And I now have 5 rookies on my team. Probably not a good idea for someone as impatient as I am.
 
18deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 13:23
Durant was lovely last night.
 
19Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 16:12
Florian, you're ALL OVER IT. Sweet.
 
20Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 19:49
The emergence of Mario Chalmers has given me an embarrassment of riches at the PG slot:

Kidd
A. Miller
Barbosa
Alston
Chalmers
Blake

I may be interested in trading one for a like-valued forward - one that hits 3's preferred. Kidd is probably least likely to be traded but you never say never.....unless you have punted FT% then I would say NEVER trade Dwight Howard lol
 
21Pacers Rule
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      Sat, Nov 01, 2008, 11:36
Mike D, looks like we both struck out on our exiled PGs.
 
22Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Sun, Nov 02, 2008, 09:10
Heaven forbid an IS pickup would ever be deemed improper or overturned...but should it ever happen...what is the player's status once removed from the manager's team? Waivers would allow some time for other managers to be aware of the player's availability again. Not that I have anyone in particular in mind, or anything. :-)
 
23Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Wed, Nov 05, 2008, 17:09
Euros- from the early going, it looks like you should have been gunning for s R this year, but I have to agree - leading Mike D is an accomplishment in and of itself!
 
24Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Wed, Nov 05, 2008, 17:14
Not so far this year. Lol
 
25s R
      ID: 54048267
      Sat, Nov 08, 2008, 14:20
picked up Flip Murray for IS Josh Smith...
 
26s R
      ID: 54048267
      Sun, Nov 09, 2008, 04:44
...and C.J. Miles for Tony Parker.
 
27deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Sun, Nov 09, 2008, 14:29
My team sucks :(
 
28Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Sun, Nov 09, 2008, 15:06
Picked up Feisty Foster for the IS Kirk Hinrich
 
29Florian
      Dude
      ID: 034815289
      Tue, Nov 11, 2008, 15:44
I seem to be in the fortunate position of having a deep team. If anyone is lacking depth and interested in a 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 deal, I'd be happy to listen to any trade proposals. My main needs would be for rebounds and FG%, but I'd be willing to consider trades that improve my team in other categories. My team is really weak in blocks, so I could use an upgrade, but I'm leaning towards punting that category.
 
30deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Sat, Nov 15, 2008, 18:19
In this league you need to be faster than fast, wanted to try out Morrow, but hes gone already. Lol
 
31Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Thu, Nov 20, 2008, 10:01
Ok, i'm now officially looking for some assists. I'll consider moving most of my squad, but Richard Jefferson is probably the guy i'd be most willing to move.

If interested, give me a shout.
 
32Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Nov 20, 2008, 11:17
I'm having trouble getting guys to appear in games. Deron Williams is the biggest no-show problem, but Jason Richardson has missed a week, Marvin Willians missed a few, and Kirilenko missed two. On a per game basis, I currently rank #1 - even though a lot of my missed games are from high quality players. But I'm 12 games behind pace, and 18 games behind the league average.

If Deron Williams recovers soon, and if Monta Ellis is able to return to form for more than half the season, I should be able to make up ground with good quality games. Otherwise, I could be in trouble.
 
33Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Fri, Nov 21, 2008, 22:59
Dang, Swish. No new weekly recaps until someone trades with you?
 
34Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Tue, Nov 25, 2008, 11:27
Sorry, things are a bit crazy right now. I hope i'll get back to doing the recaps soon, but i'm going to cautiously step back from that for a little while.

I still need a PG, though!
 
35Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Wed, Dec 03, 2008, 23:15
Swish, I think your recap of team performance since the first recap might be a little depressing, personally, so feel free to delay as long as you like. I guess you know you're hurting when you lose Pietrus and it actually matters. I'm just glad I'm no longer suddenly twice as many games behind at all my positions.
 
36Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Dec 10, 2008, 12:53
The DUMBASS move of the year:

6.02 Samuel Dalembert C PHI
After getting screwed out of Okafor, I had to reassess my queue. I knew that I was short on blocks and didn't want to reach for shotblocking specialists who do NOTHING else (or worse, hurt you). In reviewing who was available, there were a bucket of similarly-ranked centers, each with their own strengths and weaknesses. This included Dalembert, Biedrins, David Lee, Jermaine O'Neal, Tyson Chandler, Ilgauskas and Greg Oden.

I chose Dalembert due to his superior blocks to the rest. I almost took Biedrins but playing time under Nelson is always in chaos, and he isn't being projected with quite as many blocks as Dalembert.

----------------

Great move, slick.
 
37Florian
      ID: 272433110
      Wed, Dec 10, 2008, 16:54
Species:

I feel your pain. My sixth round pick (Beasley) is doing even worse than Dalembert (based on Yahoo rankings). I want to drop him, but somehow can't bring myself to drop a sixth round pick as he'll likely turn it around the instant that someone else picks him up.

Boozer doesn't look much better as it looks he's back to the Boozer of 2004-2006, who missed half of those seasons with various muscle strains.
 
38Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Dec 10, 2008, 17:35
My best non-move of the year:

6.04 Andris Biedrins, C, GS
My biggest stat weakness is on blocks, and I’d like to shore that up somewhat before the only shot blockers left have little else to offer. My first choice was Dalembert, but Species took him 2 picks ago. (He did offer to trade down, so I guess I should have pursued it – but I did not.)
 
39Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Sun, Dec 14, 2008, 08:56
Log jam as usual.....seperation is hard to come by. Throw in injuries, differences in games played.......and there's a loooong way to go.
 
40Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Sun, Dec 14, 2008, 15:37
My assists problem seems to be on the verge of resolving itself thanks to the inspired play of a couple of pickups - Stuckey and Watson. If i can get Arenas back sometime soon, i like my chances for a charge in the latter part of the season.
 
41Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Sun, Dec 14, 2008, 18:36
I need to start getting healthy. I guess taking Dunleavy, J.O., Yao & Artest I was definitely rolling the dice to some extent, but Dunleavy still out with no timetable and Pietrus and Hinrich out for 6 to 12 weeks with Artest now finding some torn ligaments and missing time too is just adding up. The early season started to feel like even w/o Dunleavy I was going to do well, but it's amazing how fast you can drop 10 spots in this league.
 
42Florian
      ID: 272433110
      Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 10:50
I managed to drop 5 spots in the standings in one night (from Friday to Saturday). Boozer's (13 games and counting) and Robinson's (8 games) injuries are really starting to catch up with my team as it tumbles in the steals and rebounding categories. Thankfully Robinson is back now. If only Boozer could come back soon...

It's amazing how competitive this league is!
 
43Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 16:55
Yeah, it really is.
Is it just me or has the NBA been more topsy turvy than normal with player rotations, injuries, trades, coach firings, etc. It's hard to keep up!
 
44Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 09:42
The top 7 teams this morning are all within 3.5 points. I don't ever recall so many teams bunched so closely together at the top.
 
45Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 10:00
Yep, i'll enjoy my single day at the top, since it'll probably be the only time i get to sit there this season!
 
46Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Thu, Dec 18, 2008, 05:59
Remarkable that the top 5 are now only spearated by 2 points, and there is a 3 way tie at the top!

And what about the pending huge blockbuster trade between Florian and Holt? By obtaining Chris Paul (and especially his steals), this makes Florian's team even more dangerous. Holt makes out pretty good here also by getting Rose and Calderon in return.
 
47Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Dec 18, 2008, 10:06
I moved from 10th place to a first place tie in less than two weeks.

Must be time for another spate of injuries now.
 
48Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Thu, Dec 18, 2008, 17:59
Holt, you realize that is double treachery.
First, you deny me Paul, then you trade him away.
The nerve!!
 
49holt
      ID: 4410182818
      Thu, Dec 18, 2008, 18:47
i hated to trade Paul obviously but I need points pretty badly, and I also needed more quality guards on my roster. I've been starting Conley all season if that tells ya anything.
 
50Florian
      ID: 272433110
      Fri, Dec 19, 2008, 09:30
Trading for Paul was all about the steals for me. Overall I took a hit in every other category except maybe FG% and rebounds (though I don't expect Paul to continue to average 5.6 rebounds/game), but the hits in the other categories were completely worth it for the chance to improve in steals.

The categories I'm now worried about are rebounds and FG%. I'm really hoping Boozer comes back soon! This blurb on Rotoworld made me laugh and nicely summarizes my how I currently feel about Boozer:

Carlos Boozer: He's set to have a second MRI on Wednesday after telling The Salt Lake Tribune that his knee is "a little sore." I played in a rec league basketball game last night, and my knee is actually a little bit sore too. Should I run and get an MRI also? Sarcasm aside, it has become abundantly clear that this man is in no hurry to get back on the basketball court. Remember, this is the same player who was out for almost an entire calendar year between 2005 and 2006 because of hamstring and foot problems. If Boozer's on your squad, you have most likely emptied the clip of expletives by this point, and the best solution is to stop expecting him to come back any day, then be pleasantly surprised if he actually does. Stay tuned for more info on Boozer later Thursday. Hopefully he doesn't encounter any particularly troublesome stretches of linoleum flooring on the way into the doctor's office for his MRI.
 
51Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Fri, Dec 19, 2008, 15:27
Florian, I like your pickup of McDyess. Amir Johnson has done nothing, there's trade talk on Rasheed, and Maxiell is not commanding minutes either. I would have taken him myself, but I'm sure you can understand how I felt all of my players to be of more value, seeing how they have collectively brought me to tenth place and all.
 
52Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Wed, Dec 24, 2008, 06:00
I have man-love for so many of my players right now. However, i don't want to stand still, and am now looking for improvements in the rebounds and blocks departments.

If you would like to relieve me of some 3s, send me an offer. I'll be pinging a few out over the Christmas period.

Must be trade envy from Florian and Holt :)
 
53holt
      ID: 4410182818
      Wed, Dec 24, 2008, 14:17
hey swish, saw your offer, haven't decided anything yet. that's all, just letting you know I've seen it, and I couldn't find your e-mail quickly.
 
54deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Fri, Dec 26, 2008, 16:06
Picked up McGuire and deactivated Millsap. My fantastic season continues...
 
55Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Sat, Dec 27, 2008, 18:48
No worries, holt. Did you get any chance to think about it some more yet?
 
56deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Fri, Jan 02, 2009, 08:19
Activated Millsap and dropped Turiaf...
 
57Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Jan 06, 2009, 15:29
This seems to be a BRUTAL season for injuries. In this league with such a think waiver wire, it's TOUGH.

We are roughly 42-ish percent of the way through the regular season. This has my hindsight seeing 20/15 with the help of lasik surgery, leaving me to consider my Boom and Bust picks from the draft:

BOOM!

Jason Kidd 3.11
: Kidd is averaging 1.5 threes, 6.4 rebounds, 8.5 assists and 2.5 steals. What decline? He's ranked 12 by Yahoo.

Shaquille O'Neal 11.10: I'm probably jinxing his relative health by placing him in this category, but it's hard to argue with a 59% FG%, 17 ppg, 8.9 boards and 1.5 blocks a game, especially since his FT% is of no concern.

Steve Blake 14.02: Blake has been phenomenal. While I worried about Fernandez, Bayless and Rodriguez, in reality those guys have probably kept Blake fresh, and Blake's simple efficiency and deadeye three point shooting fit PERFECTLY with the talented Blazers. Blake is ranked 49th in Yahoo rankings with his 2.1 threes a game combined with 4.5 assists and 1 steal.

15.11 Mario Chalmers: Can't take credit for this too much as it was a shot in the dark, but Chalmers has taken to the Heat well: 1.5 threes, 4.6 assists and a whopping 1.9 steals a game makes him an end-of-the-draft gambit of huge proportions.

Zach Randolph at 8.02 gets honorable mention for his 22 points and 11 boards a game along with 1 steal. Get healthy soon.

DOH! Bust!!

Shawn Marion 2.02
: Just on the decline in general and obviously to a certain extent a product of the PHO system and Steve Nash in particular. With D-Wade finishing most of his drives instead of dishing, Marion struggles to very pedestrian numbers that are not worthy of a 2nd round pick at all.

Samuel Dalembert 6.02: Posted about this earlier.......I could have had Andris Biedrins and nearly took him but got greedy for Dalembert's blocks. Philly seems like a mess anyway with Brand's numbers way down and Sammy's too.

Leandro Barbosa 7.11: 1.1 threes and 11.9 ppg don't get it done AT ALL

Kevin Martin at 4.02 gets honorable "DOH!" mention by being hurt so much.
 
58Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Tue, Jan 06, 2009, 22:01
Yeah I thought last year was the worst for injuries I'd ever seen. Until this year.

 
59Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Thu, Jan 08, 2009, 00:37
Along those lines, after missing 34 games, Dunleavy finally made an appearance tonight, so he's off IS. Conveniently, J.O. becomes eligible tonight after missing his fifth consecutive game with a bum knee to keep my IS eligible player total at three, with Pietrus and Hinrich still out. T.J. Ford has missed 5 of the last 11, but other than that, my team's been relatively healthy....

Species, looks like you did jinx the Diesel.
 
60Florian
      ID: 272433110
      Thu, Jan 08, 2009, 14:04
On reviewing my team's season so far a few things jump out at me.

The Good:

O.J. Mayo - drafted in 9th round; currently ranked 39th overall
Derrick Rose - drafted in 10th round; currently ranked 76th overall
Ridnour- drafted in 11th round; ranked 75th overall
Carter - drafted in 4th round; ranked 22 overall

The Bad:
Delonte West - drafted in 15th round; currently ranked 38th overall; unfortunately I dropped him 1 game into the season
Boozer - the mere mention of his name evoke unpleasant thoughts
Beasley - my sixth round pick has been so bad he was dropped to waivers
Deng - was hoping my seventh round pick would help my team FG%; instead his FG% is among the worst on my team when he does play

The Really Bad:

My trade with Swish to switch 2nd, 3rd and 5th round picks has turned out terribly. What would have been Granger and Kidd turned into Calderon and Boozer. A terrible trade for my team.

 
61Florian
      Dude
      ID: 034815289
      Sat, Jan 10, 2009, 16:25
I dropped Jason Thompson this morning. How is it that Mike D is able to pick him up today as a free agent. Shouldn't he have to go through waivers?
 
62Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Sat, Jan 10, 2009, 16:34
Because I have connections (lol).

IIRC, it's mostly meant for that lightning quick transaction where you pick someone up, change your mind and drop them within minutes for someone else you see is available. It's also done to prevent people from adding and quickly dropping someone in order to "force" that player into waivers.

The "quickly" part I believe is a 24 hour window, though as I said, normally applies in transactions lasting minutes apart.

In your case, it shows you picked up Thompson:

Jan 9 5:07am

And dropped him:

Jan 10 2:13am

Inside the 24 hour window. That's my best explanation.
 
63Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Sat, Jan 10, 2009, 16:35
And he's available for trade......except you'll have to e-mail me since I currently have the maximum of 6 offers proposed already. (lol)
 
64holt
      ID: 4410182818
      Sat, Jan 10, 2009, 19:37
looking to trade Gasol for a roughly equal value point guard. if anyone is interested shoot me an offer.
 
65holt
      ID: 4410182818
      Sat, Jan 10, 2009, 19:40
murphy, odom, perkins, love, and t'young are also available. looking for a good point scorer, and some 3's and assists wouldn't hurt either.
 
66Florian
      ID: 508492423
      Sat, Jan 10, 2009, 22:54
Mike D : I wasn't aware of the 24 hour rule. The rule makes sense.

In this case I picked up Hayes for Thompson because Yi Jianlin injury's should increase Hayes' playing time and because Thompson only got 23 minutes as a starter, which wasn't that different from the minutes he was getting off the bench. I hope he doesn't turn into a monster the minute he gets into your lineup the way Delonte West did.
 
67Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Sun, Jan 11, 2009, 10:59
I gave Thompson a locker next to West. I'm gonna coach him up and see what happens. Figures he's covering Dirk tonight.....that means foul trouble for sure.
 
68Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Tue, Jan 13, 2009, 07:27
I've sent out some offers of late. There's still some of those on the table, but i'm still really looking for rebounds.

Most of my team is tradeable for the right price.

Except Granger, obviously. He's my very best friend at the moment.
 
69deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Tue, Jan 13, 2009, 15:48
I hate this season.
Half my team is injured right now.

And people notice it, cuz they make 2for1 offers, where I have to give up the few Studs I own.

Never again I pick Brand again in the first round.
I blame it all on him. :)
 
70Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Tue, Jan 13, 2009, 16:02
I feel for you. Typically standing pat isn't going to move you up the standings with so many injuries though and it will cause you to fall behind in games played.

One option ends up being trading studs for depth via 2-1 or 3-2 deals. It's tough, no one likes to do it, but in the long run it can be a good thing if done right. Another option can be trying to trade injured players for healthy ones. It's tough sometimes to get reasonable deals but it can be done. Especially in 2-2 type deals where you move 1 healthy and 1 hurt for 2 healthy.

People will often trade into hurt players, especially if they are way ahead in games like me, or if the player isn't going to be out too much longer anyway (a week or two even).

You actually have a ton of trade opportunities, IMHO, more than nearly any other GM. Whether you make 0, 1, 5, or 10 trades is the question only you can answer though. ;)
 
71Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Tue, Jan 13, 2009, 18:01
I'd like to make a general request, so please don't anyone be offended on a personal level.

It's regarding trade offers. If you are offered a trade, and see it out there, but are still pondering over it, can you please just send a quick email to let the other party know that you've seen it and are still thinking it over?

I've been guilty of this too in the past. There's no need to leave any trade out there without some kind of response for a week if you have actually seen the offer. It only takes a minute or so to respond, even if it's to say you still are not sure.

I hope that didn't come across as too abrasive. It's just something that's been on my mind. Nothing personal!

I guess i'm just itching to get some trades done! :P
 
72Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Tue, Jan 13, 2009, 18:10
I'll second that.

Additionally, why wait 24-48 hours to decline a trade when the response is "there's no way I can do this because...."

If it's that obvious, shouldn't it be declined a little bit more quickly?

And don't tell me it's because people have other things to do in life. Unacceptable.
 
73Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Jan 13, 2009, 18:34
I would like to put Kevin Martin on the block. The player I seek in return:

- must be a forward
- must be of similar overall value
- must shoot a good %
- should hit 3's - 1.5+ a game
- should rebound
- should steal
- scoring average immaterial
 
74weykool
      ID: 2842717
      Tue, Jan 13, 2009, 18:42
If it's that obvious, shouldn't it be declined a little bit more quickly?

Two sides to every coin.
If it that obvious doesnt the person sending out the trade have an obligation to not send the trade in the fisrt place?
 
75Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Tue, Jan 13, 2009, 19:00
Species, I punched all of that criteria into my machine and Larry Bird came out.

weykool----the "obvious" part is only from the perspective of the receiver, especially in a league like this. For instance, I send a strong PG with assists, 3s, etc, to someone for a PF type player. Who knows whether the receiver feels they can do the category swap, or whether it's early enough in the season not to care that much about it, etc.. Only the receiver can say. And if they clearly respond that there's no way they can do it, that's fine, then you know. That's what I was getting at. Not a Jo Blo for Kobe Bryant offer (lol).
 
76Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Jan 15, 2009, 14:05
You know it's getting bad when a Steve Blake injury feels like a death blow to your chances!
 
77Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Thu, Jan 15, 2009, 14:22
That's life in the HC baby.
 
78Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Thu, Jan 15, 2009, 18:14
Well, at least there are several of us having the same "I can't believe my team is playing like this" experience this year. The tough part is to keep 'hope' alive and stay motivated. After a while, it can get discouraging.

I just saw Hinrich has started playing again. With Dunleavy back, I guess that takes me down to Artest, J.O., and Pietrus as my only IS eligible players. I never formally declared Artest but he's out 7 to 10 days with his ankle.

Good to see Hinrich back, though. Of course, now Rose has made him an afterthought, but still, maybe he'll get traded and play heavy minutes. A lot of teams could use his services. I can always dream, I guess. Perhaps that's my secret to hope for my fantasy hoops season....have wildly unrealistic positive expectations.

 
79Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 16:55
Holt, i sent you a trade offer around a week ago. If you could please respond one way or the other, i'd really appreciate it.
 
80holt
      ID: 4410182818
      Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 00:02
responded - trade accepted


I have a question about the IS slots. Camby is listed as day to day afaik, but there are reports (unofficial) that he'll be out at least all of this week if not much longer. I don't know how to proceed with it. I'm already getting day-to-day'd to death with Perkins and Calderon so if I can pick up an IS player I want to do it asap.

Marcus Camby: Injury Could Be Serious

RotoWire.com Staff - RotoWire.com 12 hours, 17 minutes ago

Update: Though the Clippers are calling Camby’s sprained left ankle injury day-to-day, he could be lost for an extended period, according to those familiar with this type of injury, the Los Angeles Times reports.
 
81Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 07:05
According to the IS criteria in the IS thread, more specific information is needed to place Camby there, IMHO. An actual statement from the team would be one thing, which they've yet to give.

I know it's frustrating when you're pretty sure of something but can't get confirmation of it. We've all been there bro.
 
82Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 09:24
Thanks holt, much appreciated. Now there must be some more trades i can still make...

I'm still raging with Amare's ridiculously bad performance against KG and co last night. In fact, my team has been struggling on the whole lately. Amare and Rudy have both been really average, and i shudder to think where i would be without Granger. I definitely made a good move trading up to get him on draft day!
 
83Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 09:37
So many high picks have been average this year, it's really stunning. Besides Amare and Gay, you can add in Brand, Marion, Butler, B. Davis, Iverson, Nash, Josh Smith, Jason Richardson. Even KG could be lumped in.

All these guys were taken in the first 3 rounds.
 
84Florian
      ID: 272433110
      Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 09:53
Swish : Trading up definitely worked in your favour.

Mike D: I'd add Boozer and Calderon to that list.
 
85Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 10:02
I looked at those guys, but their numbers when playing looked strong to me. Boozer 20.5 pts and 11.7 rebs; Calderon I have to agree after looking again. Not where people thought he'd be.
 
86Florian
      ID: 272433110
      Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 13:10
I agree Boozer's numbers are good when he played. However he has played only 12 games this year and is currently ranked 209th overall in the Yahoo game. I was hoping for a little more from my third round pick.

The only player listed with a worse overall ranking is Brand (213th overall).
 
87Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 13:46
I took Swish's post as performance based (since he used the word performance----lol) versus injury based.

You just can't hide that love for Boozer.....
 
88Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Wed, Jan 21, 2009, 10:11
Someone needs to stop that Florian dude. And quickly!
 
89Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Mon, Jan 26, 2009, 11:34
Tell you what, it won't take me long to make up that ground in rebounds if Kevin Love and DeAndre Jordan combine for 35 boards every night. If i'd known it was that easy, i would have drafted them both in the middle rounds ;)
 
90Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Wed, Jan 28, 2009, 10:41
I get Mo Williams's huge night, Kobe and Billups have big nights, and I go down 1 point in the standings.
 
91Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Wed, Jan 28, 2009, 19:01
Looks like I need to clear a bench slot or two with some players playing again. I'll try to get that figured out tonight.
 
92Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Wed, Jan 28, 2009, 23:06
OK, team Indy Dream is on the mend. At least we're all playing now (I think). Time to begin the long, long, long ascent.
 
93Florian
      ID: 272433110
      Thu, Jan 29, 2009, 13:59
Swish sure put the jinx on my team. Since his post on Jan. 21st, my team is 10th position, I've suffered injuries to Ridnour and Collins, and Augustin's injury has worsened leaving him out another ten days. While none of the injured players are stars, they weakened my team to the point where I put Tim Thomas, Steve Novak and Mcgee in my line-up last night. The three scored a combined 8 points on 4-17 shooting with a combined 0 3PTM, 1 steal and 1 block. I guess I'll have to find some more players on the waiver wire.
 
94Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 10:04
Someone needs to stop that KnicksFan dude. And quickly!
 
95KnicksFan
      ID: 5056308
      Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 10:07
Injury bug has hit my team pretty bad too, although somehow Dwyane Wade hasn't been part of it. He just set a personal record for most consecutive games played at 43. I don't like wasting games on scrubs so I am really surprised to be in first place with the 3rd fewest games played.
 
96Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 12:23
My injuries drained my rebounding (Z, Chandler, Gooden). West not so much.
 
97deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 12:55
I am the injury King, but things are getting better finally, 2 red crosses left...
 
98Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Sat, Jan 31, 2009, 02:07
Blatche to IS
 
99Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Feb 02, 2009, 16:00
When Monta Ellis was ready to return, I thought I might finally be in a position to make a move.

Then Kirilenko goes down for a month.
Then Bynum goes down for essentially the rest of the season.

Now I hear that Deron is out tonight with a right quad contusion. That may or may not have lingering implications, but it probably doesn't matter anymore.

[poof]my season[/poof]
 
100Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Tue, Feb 03, 2009, 15:04
You've been a Roto pogo stick Guru. Going ahead of me, then below me, then ahead of me......

Kobe is going to be an absolute monster for the rest of the season. I can't decide whether to trade him or not though because I could use some help in some other categories. But it's hard to deal the # 3 pick in the draft and get adequate return.
 
101deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Wed, Feb 04, 2009, 06:59
Activated Horford, dropped some junk...
 
102Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Thu, Feb 05, 2009, 11:03
Losing Bogut is a big blow to my chances. I was relying on getting his boards back, and his insane FG% would have been very helpful in that tight race.
 
103Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Thu, Feb 05, 2009, 12:29
No doubt Swish. You really look forward to the impact of returning injured players. It's almost like a trade, or even better, a FA pickup.
 
104Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Sat, Feb 07, 2009, 22:42
Wow. The top 8 are all within 4.5 points. Never been in a league with this much parity, even though Knicksfan still has a ton of games available to play and may be the favorite for that reason alone.

Of course, us bottom dwellers are all within 2.5 points for last as well. A case of the haves, and the have nots. Dang, how bad is it to have Lebron and be in (almost) last?!!
 
105Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 05:34
I feel like my squad was right on the edge of going into overdrive, and now Granger goes down. I hope he's not lost for long - that would probably be kaput for my chances.

Things continue to be very close, but at the moment, Florian is still the man to beat. And it will take some pretty hardcore performances to keep pace with him until the season ends.

I suppose my key is seeing the real Amare emerge for the last part of the season. Because i'm sick of the 2nd rate one i've seen so far.
 
106Florian
      ID: 272433110
      Fri, Feb 20, 2009, 10:38
I'm going to be away from this afternoon until March 1st. I'm going to a resort in Jamaica with my wife, 4 year son and 13 month old twins. I probably won't have any internet access until I return. If two of Boozer, Ridnour or Ginobili come back before then, I won't be able to drop a player until then. I've put Ridnour in my line-up because he seems the most likely to actually play in the next week. If I am able to get internet access while I'm down there, I will obviously make any needed transactions when ever I'm able to.
 
107Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Fri, Feb 20, 2009, 13:17
First Granger, now Amare. I'm screwed.

I guess i'll just try to not be relegated now.
 
108Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Fri, Feb 20, 2009, 13:24
Oh, you're gonna pack the lane now, eh? Force the outside shot? Foul the driver and make him earn it from the stripe?

I can't believe you didn't see an eye injury to Amare coming. Sheesh.

Just busting your chops bro. You probably thought about trading Amare many times this year including recently. It's amazing the way this stuff works.
 
109Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Sat, Feb 21, 2009, 09:33
Yep, shame on me for not spotting that old detached retina on my HD tv ;)

Anyway, now i have no choice but to gamble. Without 3 of my top 6 picks, and Arenas not being ready to go, i have to hope for a miracle to avoiding plummeting downwards.

I don't think Florian has any reason to worry whilst he's away. His team looks incredible!
 
110Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Wed, Feb 25, 2009, 08:43
Let the plummeting begin! Injuries have combined with a terrible loss of form for my squad, and it now looks like i'll be playing AAA basketabll next year unless i can somehow get my act together. Which will be hard with the waiver wire being bone dry.

I suppose that's a massive testament to the closeness of this league that i've dropped from 2nd to 7th in little over a week.

Oh, and add Amare and Bogut to my "never again" list ;)
 
111Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Sat, Feb 28, 2009, 18:09
I'm on holiday skiing in Italy for a week starting tomorrow, and i probably won't have much (if any) internet access. I've set my lineups until i come back, but just in case my lineups are whacko for any reason. I'll fix it if and when i can.
 
112deejay
      ID: 301532718
      Sun, Mar 01, 2009, 14:16
I suppose it's fine I move Durant to IS...
 
113deejay
      ID: 301532718
      Sun, Mar 01, 2009, 14:36
Let me know, if he doesn't qualify then Ill drop Lowry again.
 
114Florian
      ID: 508492423
      Sun, Mar 01, 2009, 19:58
I've got this huge glut of PGs (Paul, Ridnour, Brooks, Alston, Robinson, Mayo, Augustin) and a large lead in assists. It looks like the assists category is a pretty close race, especially from 5th to 11th. I'd be happy to trade one or two point guards for help in any other areas. I'm unlikely to trade Paul or Robinson unless the offer is really really good.
 
115holt
      ID: 410511410
      Mon, Mar 02, 2009, 22:28
florian - I'm interested. will see if I can find something reasonable.

also, Terry is back. I'll cut someone to make room.
 
116deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Tue, Mar 03, 2009, 09:09
Westbrook for President :)
 
117Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Thu, Mar 05, 2009, 16:51
Any predictions on the # of last second deals?
 
118Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Thu, Mar 05, 2009, 16:59
0-1
 
119Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Thu, Mar 05, 2009, 17:41
3-4
 
120Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Fri, Mar 06, 2009, 22:57
Dang, Mike D beats me again.
 
121Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Fri, Mar 06, 2009, 23:06
You gave it to me this time. There had only been 3 trades in this league for the entire season approaching the deadline.
 
122Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Sun, Mar 08, 2009, 00:02
True, but since I had one in the works, and the league is so competitive, with most managers very active, I figured folks would be calculating the best way to bust a move and would, of course, be holding out for overly optimistic deals (you should have seen one offer I received)- but then facing the deadline, deals would get realistic and a few would get done. But I guess guys either decided the grass wasn't greener, or just couldn't quite agree on equal value. I mean obviously everyone was working the war room up to the deadline.
 
123Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Sun, Mar 08, 2009, 17:09
I would have been trying to trade if it had not been the 1 week in the year that i had practically zero internet access or free time.
 
124deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 18:49
Activated Durant and dropped Watson...
 
125Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 07:58
Dang, Florian! Dropping the player I traded you to pick up the player I cut? You could have just told me you wanted Flip!
 
126Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 08:49
Florian obviously has no idea what he's doing.......the standings confirm that.
 
127Florian
      ID: 272433110
      Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 10:37
Bonner has managed an impressive 3.4 points/game over his last five games. At this point I figured Flip Murray couldn't do any worse. Especially with the increased minutes he would be getting with Marvin Williams out for the season. And Murray scored 3 points in his first game on my team. I guess someone has to balance out the ridiculously lucky games I been getting from some of my other scrubs (ie. Powe, Bobby Jackson, etc.).
 
128Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 16:14
Woohoo - back up to 10th place!

My karma for that is that Devin is crippled as well, now. Oh well, down in flames and all that!
 
129Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 17:10
It's amazing that, conceivably, a +/- 4 points swing could plunge you from as high as 2nd to as low as 15th!
 
130Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 17:39
15th? That's really, really low...
 
131Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 23:42
Inconceivable!!
 
132Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Mon, Mar 23, 2009, 13:09
Come on, Hibachi! I'm counting on you returning for 5 random games this season, averaging 35/6/6 with 2 3s and steals on 50% FG and 98% FT percentages. That will shove me into "I might not be relegated from RIHC" territory!

I knew when i drafted him in the 10th round that he'd be a lock to play 5 random games in the last month of the regular season ;)

Go Agent Zero!!!
 
133Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Mon, Mar 23, 2009, 22:03
Wow, seventh place. I feel like I'm in rare air for me this season. Looks like all I needed was to get totally healthy while everyone else loses their key players for the season. I should have figured out this plan a little earlier. I could be in first!
 
134Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Sat, Mar 28, 2009, 22:08
Gilbert's back!

He's about 2 months too late, but he's back. Enough to spur me to a position to stay in the big league? Probably not. But you just never know...
 
135Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Apr 14, 2009, 12:39
How crazy are these standings? Spots 2 through 7 separated by a mere 3 points. A point and a half +/- and you can conceivably have a 6-way tie for 2nd place.
 
136Florian
      ID: 272433110
      Tue, Apr 14, 2009, 14:37
Yahoo was late updating the stats. It gets even crazier. Spots 2 through 7 only separated by 1.5 points!!
 
137KnicksFan
      ID: 6142248
      Wed, Apr 15, 2009, 13:16
Oh man what a tight league. I screwed up planning my games because on the "my team" page Yahoo shows extra dates beyond the end of the season. I stupidly thought that meant I still had a few days to ration my players. Oh well.

It sucks that only the top 4 get to stay in the league after a season like this. How about an amendment to extend the "keepers" to top 8 or something?
 
138Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Apr 15, 2009, 13:22
I can only lose 0.5 points in FG%.

I can only gain 1.0 points in REB and 0.5 in FG%.

So I will at worst post a 56. I could at best post a 57.5. Hopefully that's enough to stick in the top 4!
 
139KnicksFan
      ID: 6142248
      Wed, Apr 15, 2009, 13:29
Yeah, Species you're set up pretty good. I can gain 1.5 points in points which would put me at 55 like everyone else. Mike D is treading on dangerous ground by my estimates.
 
140Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Wed, Apr 15, 2009, 18:22
Well, since Lebron is sitting tonight, I guess my chances at the title are finally over.
 
141Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Wed, Apr 15, 2009, 19:37
Dangerous ground indeed. I can move up or down 3 points, possibly 4. And I don't have that many going tonight (5 I think). Oh well, no big deal......PR, maybe NOW you'll trade LeBron to me. ;)
 
142Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Wed, Apr 15, 2009, 19:47
I may have the distinct dishonor of the lowest RIHC finish ever by a team who drafted Lebron. And my second round pick, Yao, stayed pretty healthy all year. Joe Johnson was nice. (Ok, I'll eat what I said about Billups going too early, Mike. He turned out pretty good this year after the trade.) As a Pacer fan, I should have known things would go south the moment I drafted Ron Artest onto my team in the fourth. I don't think he's ever shot this poorly ever. I had no idea that even in a contract year, he would underwhelm. Dunleavy turned out to be a bad bad gamble in the early fifth round. I should have listened to my gut and passed on him. Something kept telling me "something's not right." Turns out it was my fantasy judgment this year. Oh well. Even on the outside looking in at the leaderboard after the first six weeks or so, it was fun to see so much movement in the standings from week to week. Looks like my stretch run consisted of moving from 12th to 10th. And never, ever, have I finished a league this many games under the limit. And to play less games than Knicksfan in Hoops? Unthinkable!
 
143Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Apr 15, 2009, 22:03
If anyone with StatTracker would update as the night goes on (or ends), I would appreciate it!
 
144Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Wed, Apr 15, 2009, 22:17
It currently shows you in 9th. Lol
 
145Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Apr 15, 2009, 22:42
FU! lol
 
146Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Wed, Apr 15, 2009, 22:50
Oops. That's me dropping. D*mn!
 
147holt
      ID: 56217300
      Thu, Apr 16, 2009, 02:12
ug. carter didn't play a single minute. good games from a few others though. guess I'll see where I finished in the morning.
 
148Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Thu, Apr 16, 2009, 07:24
That's what I call a photo finish. With only 5 playing, and then Haywood getting the DNP, I knew it could change. Glad to see it didn't affect me too much. And my other candidates for that spot didn't do much anyway.

Congrats to Florian who ended all drama for 1st place weeks ago. Well played!
 
149Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Thu, Apr 16, 2009, 09:24
Well done, Florian. Far and away the best team in this years's RIHC. You won this thing when you managed to pull off a trade to get Chris Paul. After that, it was all over for the rest of us! Congrats again!

And very well done to everyone else for a mightily competitive league. I just wish i could have been more in the thick of things at the end.
 
150KnicksFan
      ID: 6142248
      Thu, Apr 16, 2009, 09:31
Good game Florian. I want a rematch!
 
151deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Thu, Apr 16, 2009, 10:05
Congrats Florian.
 
152holt
      ID: 56217300
      Thu, Apr 16, 2009, 12:46
wild - I end up tied for third. good timing for the end of the season for me. my team picked up 6 points in the standings in the past 10 days, moving from 8th to 3rd. too bad my slackers wait til the last week of the season to start showing some skills.
 
153Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Apr 16, 2009, 13:15
Congratulations Florian. You emerged from the pack and dominated the past few months. Well deserved victory.

Genius me decides to sit Dwight Howard last night in favor of Samuel "The Disappearing Act" Dalembert. Brilliant. Thank goodness it didn't hurt me......and the roster spots I did choose to help in FG% did actually work to untie me in FG% and EARN that half point instead of backing into it.

While 2nd place is the first loser, I'm less of a loser than the rest of you beeeoooottttcccccchhhhheeesssssssss!

See you guys next year!
 
154holt
      ID: 56217300
      Thu, Apr 16, 2009, 18:31
oh yeah - congrats Florian, you sorry sack...! now gimme my players back.
 
155Florian
      ID: 508492423
      Thu, Apr 16, 2009, 21:47
Well done everyone. Having second and seventh separated by a mere 2.5 points at the end of the year just shows how competitive this league is.
 
156Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Fri, Apr 17, 2009, 21:29
[149] I disagree. Florian won this league when he duped me into trading away my....what....12th round pick...and then nabbing Nate Robinson right out from under my nose! I ended up with two schmucks there instead of Nate, whom I would have also probably taken with that pick.....nice work Florian. I mean you totally dominated us. You earned it 100%. I'm not sure anyone has won the RIHC by this large of a margin. Guru?
 
157Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Fri, Apr 17, 2009, 22:16
If you go to the RIHC standings page, you can click on the prior year's standings.
 
158Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Fri, Apr 17, 2009, 22:18
This was the widest margin of victory since the 1st year, 03-04, when Dave R won by 12.5 points.
 
159Pacers Rule
      Sustainer
      ID: 910311210
      Sat, Apr 18, 2009, 00:20
If I'm not mistaken, Florian's Luebeck Eagles won by 15.5 points.
 
160Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Sat, Apr 18, 2009, 09:05
Right, it's the biggest ever, surpassing Dave R's previous widest margin of victory the 1st year, 03-04, when Dave R won by 12.5 points.

Guess it wasn't worded right the first time.