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| Posted by: Pica
- Sustainer [161141312] Wed, Oct 29, 2008, 11:17
1st day of the season in the books and only 6 teams played, but I'm sure someone out there already have their finger on the eject button for Charlie V. Another egg tonight and > Tyrus Thomas will be massive. |
| | | 1 | Hang Time
Donor
ID: 469222914
Wed, Oct 29, 2008, 13:39
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Yeah, I'm pissed I didn't pick up Tyrus Thomas.
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| | | 2 | G
ID: 369542914
Wed, Oct 29, 2008, 17:06
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Tonight will reveal a whole lot more than last night did with most teams playing. Last night was pretty boring with the exception of T. Thomas. I have Thomas on a few teams but I won't get too excited yet because there was an interesting report on Chi's interest in Al Harrington. If that happens T. Thomas will lose some of his value.
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| | | 3 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Wed, Oct 29, 2008, 17:08
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Just a hunch, but I figured I'd buck the trend and trade INTO Oden and Sessions now...LOL
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| | | 4 | Blooki
ID: 119492312
Wed, Oct 29, 2008, 17:11
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I'll add to the discussion. I am making zero trades today. End addition to the discussion.
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| | | 5 | Donkey Hunter
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ID: 916288962
Wed, Oct 29, 2008, 17:13
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I hate my entire team but I don't have 10 trades so I will also not trade tonight. I will definitely consider the Tyrus bandwagon though.
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| | | 6 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Wed, Oct 29, 2008, 17:14
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We're sorry. The game is temporarily unavailable. We apologize for the inconvenience.
Now that looks familiar.
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| | | 7 | G
ID: 369542914
Wed, Oct 29, 2008, 17:27
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Deejay - LOL
That also makes it easier not to make any trades tonight! Perhaps they are assisting all of us who consider themselves to be trade-a-holics. Four trades in the bank make us shake even tho most of our guys haven't even played yet.
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| | | 8 | CJ
Leader
ID: 499271021
Wed, Oct 29, 2008, 19:23
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Well remember a guy with say (Blooki) with say 20 teams...when he trades Thomes or sells it only counts as one trade in percentage correct?
Sorry Blooki not knowing how many team I have.
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| | | 9 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Wed, Oct 29, 2008, 23:08
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My value only went up 160k and that wasn't bad looking at the top jumps...LOL
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| | | 10 | Hang Time
Donor
ID: 469222914
Wed, Oct 29, 2008, 23:27
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I only went up 60k. Lebron went down -.05 rofl.
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| | | 11 | G
Donor
ID: 5810561615
Wed, Oct 29, 2008, 23:37
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Hang Time you are 100% right. I am curious if anyone on this board sold James after 1 game and if so why?
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| | | 12 | reebbertxx
ID: 39918210
Wed, Oct 29, 2008, 23:53
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8> Managers with multiple teams do not count as 1 sell. They are all counted individually. It was talked about being changed but it was confirmed on the TSN message boards as remaining the same as previous years. I just have to laugh at Lebron losing 50k. I had a feeling he would bleed after his 4th game when a few other schedules get good, but him losing 50k tonight really surprised me and price movers rarely surprise me.
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| | | 13 | Qwerty123
ID: 37859112
Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 00:01
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I'm guessing there weren't many trades today period, which may be cause for some screwy price changes. In fact, there may have been fewer sells than buys resulting in bigger losses than gains for the top movers. There were probably some day late teams (from managers who didn't realize the penalty this year) that spread the buys around, whereas a small number of sells could move the market on guys like LeBron. Why anyone would sell LeBron is another story, however. At least there doesn't seem to be any glaring errors with TSN's pricing algorithm (yet).
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| | | 14 | dpr
ID: 13443116
Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 00:06
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a factor also was that there were pretty obvious sells in oden and sessions. villanueva too to an extent. James while not rationale can be explained by people not wanting 12 mill sitting around and having trades. not the people who will make it a month.
But then for buying we didnt have any new imformation to direct us one way so it was spread out. Thomas would have drawn owners but was off today and people selling after one day arent very patient and want immediate results.
While today price movers were weird dont think they necessarily bode poorly for coming changes
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| | | 15 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 00:47
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Gotta wonder if Nellie is gonna start Azubuike after tonight. DeMarcus Nelson got yanked quickly
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| | | 16 | Ole
ID: 23943282
Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 07:50
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trying to correct early mistakes:
perkins -> m. gasol
bell -> azubuike
fingers crossed...
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| | | 17 | Pica
Sustainer
ID: 161141312
Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 08:29
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Why didn't I draft Hawes like everybody else? oh yea cos I'm an idiot. What is it good to get into him with only 4 games until Miller comes back?
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| | | 18 | Hang Time
Donor
ID: 469222914
Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 11:49
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Pica: The way he's playing how can he not get PT? /shrug
I'm making my first move tomorrow (I think). Barnes -> Thomas. That's if Barnes was only sucking b/c it was the Spurs last night. If he does really well tonight then I'll save the trade.
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| | | 19 | dpr
ID: 13443116
Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 11:52
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I picked up petro on some teams after a good preseason and with the lack of cheap centers. I dont have hawes on this team so I am considering the move. Would hate to trade out in a week especially if there is not much upside money potential and he becomes a 25tsnp/game player in the timeframe
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| | | 20 | Hang Time
Donor
ID: 469222914
Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 12:07
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25tsnp/game for 500k when Miller is back is still bloody good.
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| | | 21 | mrballaholic
ID: 29925115
Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 14:19
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What do you guys think about Wright tonight for Dal? Will he play 25+ mins?
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| | | 22 | Florian
ID: 272433110
Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 14:26
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Am I crazy to think about ditching Durant after his terrible first game? Looked at his schedule and his next four games are at Houston, home to Minnesota, Boston and at Utah. Not exactly a good schedule from a fantasy perspective.
Thinking about picking up Chalmers (2.76, good schedule, low ownership). Also considering Azubuike (2.04, like the GF eligibility, really don't like that ownership is already above 40%, worried about playing time with Nellie as his coach).
The extra money would come in useful if Barnes has another bad game tonight.
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| | | 23 | Donkey Hunter
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ID: 916288962
Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 14:33
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I will probably do Durant to Chalmers also Florian. With Durant having several days off now I don't really wanna have a player bleed these first few days that I am not positive will quickly recover. Losing .05 on Lebron is nothing but losing it on Durant who might not bounce back is another. And it never hurts to have a few million in the bank for Barnes.
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| | | 24 | Qwerty123
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ID: 349431211
Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 14:55
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Does anyone have any brilliant insights into Chalmers, Robinson, Arthur, or Chandler that might sway me one way or another? Or just take this opportunity to pimp whoever you own.
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| | | 25 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 15:31
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I'm gonna sit back and watch a couple more games. Based on the small money gains last night, not a huge rush to try and hop on any trains (or Big Wheels) at this point.
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| | | 26 | G
ID: 369542914
Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 16:20
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Qwerty123,
Congrats on your fast start and ranking in the top 100. Your squad looks solid.
I too am confused about Chalmers, Robinson, Chandler and Arthur. Unfortunately I don't own any of them so i can't pimp them and I lack any brilliant insights.
G
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| | | 27 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 16:24
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I too am confused about Chalmers, Robinson, Chandler and Arthur. Unfortunately I don't own any of them so i can't pimp them and I lack any brilliant insights.
Same story here.
If in doubt, take the cheapest one comes to mind.
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| | | 28 | Donkey Hunter
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ID: 916288962
Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 16:27
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Heres my brilliant insights. Robinson and Chandler are on the Knicks and they seem to be more fun to watch this year but Chalmers and Arthur proved at rookie camp that they would be more fun to hang out with off the court.
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| | | 29 | Qwerty123
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ID: 349431211
Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 16:37
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Not found in the top 100 are my two other teams, which admittedly I was more confident about going into yesterday. I think for the current "A" team, I'll pick up Chandler since, as deejay said, he's the cheapest.
For the others, I may hold off until tomorrow to see who the real trains are.
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| | | 30 | Florian
Dude
ID: 034815289
Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 17:03
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23 Thanks, Donkey Hunter.
24 No brilliant insights. Already have Chandler, so I'm obviously biased towards him. Chalmers is starting, so I'm inclined to think his playing time is the most secure of the other three, which is why I bought him for Durant. Robinson should see good minutes as sixth man, but I'm not so sure about Arthur's playing time. However I have Arthur and Robinson on my RIHC team, so I really hope they both do well.
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| | | 31 | Hang Time
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ID: 469222914
Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 17:09
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Do people think Thomas (Chi) will get this much PT every game? With so many great players coming off the bench...
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| | | 32 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 17:14
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I think people need to wait on CHI, MIL and to a lesser extent PHO until their lineups are defined. CHI and MIL especially have alot of bench help and who knows where it'll lead us fantasy-wise.
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| | | 33 | Hang Time
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ID: 469222914
Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 17:19
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I don't really trust Chalmers yet b/c he played the Knicks last night. I'm a huge Knicks fan, watched the game last night, etc., and we played no defense so of course Chalmers went off. We'll see if he does it again.
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| | | 34 | Hang Time
Donor
ID: 469222914
Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 17:20
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Sorry to spam (there's no edit button), but I just resisted doing 2 trades!
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| | | 35 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 17:20
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Good call on Chalmers. I have Mayo and if he had just shot the ball a little better, his numbers would have been great.
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| | | 36 | Neumow
ID: 09242417
Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 18:02
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Wilson Chandler is a nice buy because even if he only sees 20 minutes a game, he still has the potential to net you 25 TSNP a game. If he supplants Q Rich in the starting lineup, he will be a must have.
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| | | 37 | Ender
ID: 55471420
Thu, Oct 30, 2008, 18:22
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As I recal, it was when in doubt, hold the trade :)
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| | | 38 | Donkey Hunter
Leader
ID: 916288962
Fri, Oct 31, 2008, 08:54
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Ok I held the trade for 24 hours.
Barnes-> ???
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| | | 39 | Florian
ID: 272433110
Fri, Oct 31, 2008, 11:00
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Barnes will be sold on my team today. He has high ownership and has produced poorly. Even if he starts producing well, the price hits this early in the season will be too much to take. Am considering David Lee, Darrell Arthur, Jason Thompson, Tyrus Thomas and Azubuike.
Azubuike has a high ownership (almost 50%) and his schedule only good for another 12 days, so I'll eliminate him.
Tyrus Thomas missed practice to rest a sore ankle, and plays at Boston tonight. He is also 3.84 and has 22% ownership, so I'm probably going to avoid him.
Lee is very tempting and should produce well. His ownership is also low (11%). However he is 5.51 and for that price I'd be hoping for more than a two and half weeks hold (of course I sold Durant, who has a much better schedule, yesterday).
Darrell Arthur (2.04) and Jason Thompson (1.99) both intrigue me. There's a good chance they will both be starting shortly (possibly tonight). Arthur seems to have the more obvious route to starting as Milicic nevers seems to do much and Iavaroni seems to like him more than Warrick. Most of Arthur's upcoming matchups are also wonderful from a fantasy point of view (GSW twice, Denver, Phoenix, NY), and Arthur was one of the top price movers yest. Thompson should easily beat out Mikki Moore for a starting spot and has a excellent long term schedule. My concerns are picking up a fourth Sacramento player and more importantly what happens to Thompson when Brad Miller returns (ie. does Hawes now become the starting PF?).
I guess I'm leaning towards Arthur, but I'll probably change my decision 25 times by the time I actually make the trade.
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| | | 40 | Pica
Sustainer
ID: 161141312
Fri, Oct 31, 2008, 11:01
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Barnes is so gone, and 1 in 4 coming.
Barnes > Thomas x3
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| | | 41 | Florian
ID: 272433110
Fri, Oct 31, 2008, 11:25
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With respect to Thomas, I'm also a little worried that the rumoured the Hinrich for Harrington trade might actually happen, which would also seriously hurt his value.
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| | | 42 | Hang Time
Donor
ID: 469222914
Fri, Oct 31, 2008, 11:59
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I don't like Thomas's schedule, but I like that he's starting.
I like Arthur's value, but I don't like that he's starting.
I own Lee, so that's out of the question.
So, I'll probably go with Arthur.
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| | | 43 | Hang Time
Donor
ID: 469222914
Fri, Oct 31, 2008, 12:00
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*That Arthur is not starting, I mean.
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| | | 44 | Dean Martin
ID: 69202115
Fri, Oct 31, 2008, 13:14
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Starting can be overrated, you can still get quality minutes from a player regardless of starting.
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| | | 45 | G
ID: 369542914
Fri, Oct 31, 2008, 13:46
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Arthur is a great show for kids on PBS. I wonder about him for my TSN squad.
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| | | 46 | dpr
ID: 13443116
Fri, Oct 31, 2008, 14:09
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I went with arthur from barnes myself
I had the flex to get chalmers but didnt like the 3 da gap so soon. A bad b2b and he could bleed what he makes. Arthur can sustain gains easier.
With thomas I am worried about the potential injury and his higher price.
While I like Lee dont see him gaining as much money which is what we are going for. hopefully find points elsewhere.
And I already had azubuike or I would have went that way
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| | | 47 | Gescom
ID: 429303112
Fri, Oct 31, 2008, 14:30
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Barnes to Chalmers for me.
Already have Azubuike and Lee, don't trust Thomas that much.
For Arthur, I fear that Grizz rotation is far from being settled and a good Warrick game may just reverse the Arthur trend.
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| | | 48 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Fri, Oct 31, 2008, 15:28
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Time to flip a coin on Arthur or Thomas. Chalmers has a 3-game gap in 2 days, so money-wise anything you make the next 2 days may be lost.
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| | | 49 | Donkey Hunter
Leader
ID: 916288962
Fri, Oct 31, 2008, 15:34
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Went ArthurX5
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| | | 50 | Florian
ID: 272433110
Fri, Oct 31, 2008, 16:12
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Went Barnes to Arthur.
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| | | 51 | Skip To My Lou
ID: 538101711
Fri, Oct 31, 2008, 16:14
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I'm more worried about Arthur than Chalmers, even accounting for the 3-days off. Chalmers is the starting point guard on a defensively-challenged team that also starts DWade, Marion and Beasley.
Just being on the court with that crew and logging heavy minutes seems to guarantee a certain points floor that simply isn't there yet for Arthur. He had a nice first game, but there are a lot of interchangeable bigs on that team and I, too, expect his production to much more volatile. It might not happen tonight, but sometime soon, Warrick and/or Darko is going to get it going and Arthur will log 12 minutes.
That won't necessarily kill his value (assuming it doesn't become a trend), but it's a risk that Chalmers (ahem, Chris Quinn) doesn't seem to carry.
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| | | 52 | rolf1001
Leader
ID: 038118220
Fri, Oct 31, 2008, 18:49
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Went Barnes -> Arthur too.
Arthur might even start tonight:
Rookie Darrell Arthur could be among the Grizzlies' starters in their home opener tonight against the Orlando Magic.
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2008/oct/31/grizzlies-tweak-offense/
Even if coming from bench, he should get enough playing time to be productive.
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| | | 53 | Hang Time
ID: 359343116
Fri, Oct 31, 2008, 19:01
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I went to Arthur too.
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| | | 54 | Ender
ID: 55471420
Fri, Oct 31, 2008, 21:25
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Another Arthur buyer here. His production at half time is Lousy (note the capital L). My other move Nelson > Azuibeke has been fine. No ore trades for me in the short term.
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| | | 55 | CJ
Leader
ID: 499271021
Sat, Nov 01, 2008, 08:35
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I have Warrick so I am just holding and hopeing Warrick can wake up....I would trade into Arthur but then Warrick would go off right?
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| | | 56 | kentucky indians
ID: 58915267
Sat, Nov 01, 2008, 10:49
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I have neither so I can jokingly say that you are absolutely correct CJ... Warrick goes off as soon as you trade him.... Love this game... LOL
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| | | 57 | kentucky indians
ID: 58915267
Sat, Nov 01, 2008, 23:16
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CJ,
Can I assume you traded Warrick today??
KI
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| | | 58 | CJ
Leader
ID: 499271021
Sun, Nov 02, 2008, 08:31
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LOL Thank God I did NOT. I made a pack to just remain the same and go all week and see what happens. Sorry it was not me that caused this.
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| | | 59 | Pica
Sustainer
ID: 161141312
Sun, Nov 02, 2008, 08:56
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I'm just wondering, now that Brad Miller will due back in another 2 games, and Hawes has pretty much maxed out any money gains, when will the selloff begin?
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| | | 60 | G
Donor
ID: 5810561615
Sun, Nov 02, 2008, 10:27
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Pica,
There are indications that Hawes will play PF and back-up center so his miutes may decline a little but at for a guy under 1 mi with a great schedule and possibly even C/F flexibility, I expect him to be held as long as he is producing 20 pts a game avg. You must also take into account that most of the cheap players have been less than desirable.
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| | | 61 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Sun, Nov 02, 2008, 11:46
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Of course that interests you, as a non-owner :)
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| | | 62 | Ole
ID: 23943282
Mon, Nov 03, 2008, 06:43
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i feel like giving up already. barnes to arthur was a good trade... NOT.
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| | | 63 | Pica
Sustainer
ID: 161141312
Mon, Nov 03, 2008, 09:24
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4 playing last night and a grand total of 49tsnp... i wish there was an injury there somewhere so i won't hesitate to move them all
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| | | 64 | deraynman
ID: 59142621
Mon, Nov 03, 2008, 09:38
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Anyone looking at Joe Johnson or JSmoove? I think they'll gradually pick up buys and then become big price movers once the green hits.
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| | | 65 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Mon, Nov 03, 2008, 10:37
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Swapping studs?
Are you crazy? :)
Im too busy worrying about Arthur and Friends.
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| | | 66 | Mac Daddy
ID: 35212110
Mon, Nov 03, 2008, 12:36
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AI to the Pistons for Billups and McDyess. Denver has a good schedule coming up.
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| | | 67 | Senator Urine
ID: 011502111
Mon, Nov 03, 2008, 13:07
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If I were a Denver fan I'd be pretty upset. A couple years ago they had a great traditional PG in Andre Miller. They trade him for a legend in Iverson. They throw away Camby, and trade Iverson for another great traditional PG, but who this time is past his prime. Plus his contract is huge and has three more years on it while Iverson only has one, so it can't really be said this is a rebuilding move.
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| | | 68 | Charlie
ID: 09242417
Mon, Nov 03, 2008, 17:17
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By looking at all the risky cheapies out there, it seems to me that if people are looking for a cheap guard, J.R. Smith is a great option. Denver's schedule gets ridiculously good starting Wednesday, and there would be no need to trade him until December 7th. The guy is averaging 28 TSNP/game and played almost 30 minutes even after Anthony came back last game from his suspension. Add to this the fact that he has gone up 110,000 the last two nights and he seems like a no brainer to me.....
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| | | 69 | Mark L
ID: 25155512
Mon, Nov 03, 2008, 17:43
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JR Smith is one of John Hollinger's candidates for most improved player this season; some people love Hollinger and some hate him, but he's provided some great sleepers for me over the years.
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| | | 70 | CJ
Leader
ID: 499271021
Mon, Nov 03, 2008, 17:49
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#68 I will move from Conley to him after MEM game tonight So Yes I agree
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| | | 71 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Mon, Nov 03, 2008, 21:25
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#68/70 - Portland also has a sweet schedule starting 11/5. Easy keepers for a month
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| | | 72 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Mon, Nov 03, 2008, 21:28
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Ozzy Pukey may need to go too, unless he gets things going
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| | | 73 | ole
ID: 56104345
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 07:23
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why did i buy darrell arthur again? ah yes, because i broke my own rule (the trigger happy trade finger...)
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| | | 74 | Florian
ID: 272433110
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 10:11
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My team is terrible this year. I've already burned three trades (Arthur for Barnes, Robinson for Ridnour, Chalmers for Durant). I wish I'd picked up Jason Thompson instead of Arthur.
Leaving me with
Kevin Martin
Robinson
J.R. Smith
Chalmers
Lebron
Arthur
Chandler
Salmons
Hawes
Amare
5.77 million in cash
I really don't like Martin's production for 6.5 million, but he has a great schedule, so I'll probably ignore him for now.
Lebron is really underproducing for his 12 million pricetag. My original plan was to trade him for Boozer on the 9th, but now I'm considering trading him for Yao tonight, which would allow me to trade Arthur for Boozer tomorrow.
I'd really like to get Howard as well, but that would mean I'd either have to skip Boozer or trade Martin as well. I could trade Arthur for Thompson today, Lebron for Howard on the 6th and then trade Martin for Boozer (Salmons to guard).
Do anyone have any strong opinions:
A. Lebron, Arthur for Boozer, Yao
B. Lebron, Martin, Arthur for Boozer, Howard, Jason Thompson
C. Hold everyone and save your trades
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| | | 75 | allhair allstars
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ID: 50902421
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 10:36
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Looking at my slightly neglected team last night I noticed the option of Thompson as a move from Arthur, but you have to figure that Miller's return is going to impact both Hawes and Thompson to some extent.
I'm sure you're aware of the rumors that Hawes and Miller might play together, but even if that were to come to pass it's not hard to envision a drop in Thompson's PT... Curious to read what others take on this situation is...
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| | | 76 | dpr
ID: 13443116
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 10:41
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Yea i wold be war of having both hawes and thompson when miller comes back. Likely one gets squeezed out and both get reduced not that I have any inside info.
FOr people with azubuike or arthur, do we need to move them? seems they are set to lose money. And if you move them where are you looking? Is Ridnour potentially an option? likely the best schedule and even cheaper now then he was to start
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| | | 77 | deejay
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ID: 501182710
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 10:45
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FOr people with azubuike or arthur, do we need to move them?
Well I have both and one trade, so Im trying to figure out which one to drop today.
Which one will bleed less is the real question here.
Looking at JR I guess.
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| | | 78 | allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 50902421
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 10:46
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The last I read on Ridnour is that he might not actually play on Wednesday as earlier suggested. FWIW, I won't consider picking him up until he's recovered enough from his back issues to play a couple games...
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| | | 79 | Usual Suspects
ID: 29521123
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 10:53
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77-
Went Azubuike- JR Smith on all 3 teams
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| | | 80 | Dan
ID: 451019315
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 11:12
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J.R. is going up money when he is on a 3 day break. Plus he should see increased minutes with Iverson gone. Pencil him in for 25 TSNP per night, and a great schedule for the next month. Sounds like a sure thing for me.
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| | | 81 | Gescom
Leader
ID: 520461315
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 11:15
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I guess a lot of us have the same problem which is to find a productive, cheap - under 2.5M - forward that Arthur is not and that Thompson may only be for one more game.
Other options Chandler, Nesterovic, Pachulia are less attractive although Chandler has the most upside potential of the 3.
Yesterday I was pretty set on acquiring today Johnson and JR Smith for Martin and West but West's good game combined with Azubuike new stinker makes me pause. Azu being the second most owned player worries me a lot so I'm rather considering today Martin and Azu for Johnson and Chandler.
Also, to what extent JR Smith is a must have starting tomorrow ? I can still do West -> Smith today but is Smith really going to be the main gainer of the AI trade ?
Finally, is Millsap a mirage ?
Florian, I like A most.
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| | | 82 | Florian
ID: 272433110
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 11:21
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I would think both Azubuike and Arthur need to be moved. As Azubuike is owned on 909 teams and Arthur is owned on 470 teams, Azubuike has more downside potential.
As a disclaimer I own Arthur, whom I plan to trade on Wednesday, and fortunately don't own Azubuike.
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| | | 83 | Florian
ID: 272433110
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 11:27
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Gescom:
Thanks for your advice. I'd avoid Nesterovic as he'll be out the rest of the week with a sprained ankle. Pachulia and Chandler are reasonable options, but I think Chandler's playing time is more secure.
I would definitely sell Azubuike before West as his ownership is much higher. Azubuike/Martin for Johnson/Chandler seems like a good trade. Selling West for JR Smith would likely gain some money, but I'm not sure how many points it would gain.
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| | | 84 | G
ID: 369542914
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 12:04
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Florian,
Out of all your players, Arthur will lose the most tonight. You seem to have enough cash to get a decent Forward with Arthur $ and bank of $5.77. I am in a similar boat needing a F and 7 mil. Looking at AK47 at the moment.
You mention Lebron. He is hitting for mid 40's which isn't the best ever but nothing to be sad about. If you have to take a hit would you rather take it on Arthur or on Lebron who has a 3 in 4 coming up starting tomorrow?
I guess I would sell Arthur for a forward you like and then ride the Lebron train through his next three at which time you can look at the landscape Atl and Utah are providing starting 11/9
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| | | 85 | deraynman
ID: 59142621
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 13:14
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I sold Azubuike for JR Smith. Don't have Arthur.
I've still got two trades and I'm thinking Tyrus Thomas is on the way out. Are people thinking of dumping him yet or do most have bigger fish to fry? I have the cash/flex to go Thomas > J.Johnson.
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| | | 86 | G
ID: 369542914
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 13:33
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I'm thinking Azu, Arthur and Thomas are all on the Tuesday fish fry menu. How and if people deal with it is purely a trade and cap issue at this point.
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| | | 87 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 13:51
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It's probably to late for Azu, but this just in from a Rotoworld column:
Speaking of hamstrings, Corey Maggette hit just 4-of-16 shots last night and said both of his hamstrings are in bad shape. He's talking about shutting it down to get healthy, although I'm not sure he's really ready to do that. If he does, you'll probably want to have Kelenna Azubuike available.
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| | | 88 | Hang Time
Donor
ID: 469222914
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 14:25
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I'm tradeless!
I picked up M Gasol and J.R. Smith.
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| | | 89 | Donkey Hunter
Leader
ID: 916288962
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 14:32
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Ive been tradeless for about 72 hours now. Makes the game a lot easier to bear.
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| | | 90 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 14:42
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Arthur to JR Smith x 3.
I can't remember a week 1 where I was tradeless!
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| | | 91 | Florian
ID: 272433110
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 14:53
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84-
Considered Kirilenko, but with the return of Deron Williams I feel he'll shortly be back to averaging in the high 20s. I know they don't play the same position, but when Deron returns there will fewer touches for Kirilenko.
Arthur will lose some money tonight, but the Azubuike and Tyrus Thomas sales will help dampen those losses and I'll still be able to sell him tomorrow.
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| | | 92 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 15:05
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From Rotowire:
Kelenna Azubuike (G) GS 11/4/2008
Azubuike, who is averaging 12.8 points in 29 minutes a game, could be in line for more minutes if Corey Maggette's hamstring injury forces him to miss games.
Maggette injured his hamstring in Monday's loss to Memphis and has been dealing with hamstring issues all pre-season. Azubuike could start at shooting guard if Maggette can't go.
Corey Maggette (G) GS 11/4/2008
Maggette could miss some games after straining his hamstring in Monday's loss to Memphis, the San Francisco Chronicle reports. Maggette strained his left hamstring the first quarter of Monday's game but returned to play in the second half.
Maggette injured his right hamstring in the preseason and has now strained the left one. "I'm really tired of these hamstrings acting up after doing all the necessary (treatment)," said Maggette. "I did what I could tonight. I had no lift, but it's something that I've got to deal with." It's unclear if Maggette will miss any time but, if he does, Kelenna Azubuike should be the beneficiary of extra playing time.
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| | | 93 | Qwerty123
Leader
ID: 349431211
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 15:41
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I sure would like to keep Azubuike--GF, cheap, decent schedule, potential for increased minutes.
If people didn't already own him, I think we'd be talking about him as one to keep an eye on.
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| | | 94 | dpr
ID: 13443116
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 15:47
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with arthur and azubuike and already ahving JR smith I am not finding any cheapies to move into. The NY guys are ok but I dont want to have to move both of them in two weeks especially when they are nothing exceptional. ugh
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| | | 95 | Senator Urine
ID: 106171416
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 15:51
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I think given the Maggette news and that Thomas was playing Dwight Howard, they're not must sells at all at this point. Especially with the crappy options, and I have money to upgrade too. I'll probably hold and give them another shot, who knows, with one big game tomorrow they could both become a train. Everything is so up in the air right now.
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| | | 96 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 16:06
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I wouldnt mind keeping him either, and move Arthur.
Can we get to an agreement here? :)
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| | | 97 | G
ID: 369542914
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 16:14
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Re: 90 - I can't remember a week one where I wasn't :)
Re:95 maybe not today or tomorrow but by the weekend probably.
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| | | 98 | Gescom
Leader
ID: 520461315
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 16:16
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deejay - agreed
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| | | 99 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 16:35
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If I wasnt looking at the cash I would definitely move (not so)King Arthur instead of Azu, but the fact Azu has double as much owners makes me think it is inevitable.
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| | | 100 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 17:39
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Azuibuke will certainly take a hit, but out of the various fish I have in the frying pan, he is the best one to stay in there. He does have a solid role even if Maggette doesn't go out --- I just pray he can produce and keep the bleeding from hemorraging.
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| | | 101 | Senator Urine
ID: 106171416
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 17:39
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I still think both should be given one more shot. If they do well tomorrow night they'll be players to buy, especially Azubuike.
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| | | 102 | Charlie
ID: 09242417
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 19:23
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Now it sounds like Billups won't be playing tomorrow night. One more positive bit of news for J.R. Smith....
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| | | 103 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 20:21
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I used some trades too to get away from Barnes and Azuibuke, but more for the cash. Need to build RV more than holding onto a prayer
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| | | 104 | Senator Urine
ID: 106171416
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 20:25
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If there were some great options I'd be more inclined to sell, but really there's no one I see who isn't as or more risky. I don't want to lose the trade selling and then lose another trade when the replacement fizzles. This is all fake money right now anyway until we have more information and everything settles down. One year when I finished high I think I was down to 48.5 million two weeks into the season, it was a nightmare, but it's recoverable.
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| | | 105 | G
Donor
ID: 5810561615
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 20:34
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Do you see a problem with Azu and Arthur both losing 100 K or more tonight and then losing it again tomorrow? Isn't it quite possible holding both puts you @ -400? Do you really think anyone is buying either one back with those schedules?
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| | | 106 | Senator Urine
ID: 106171416
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 20:43
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Oh I wasn't talking about Arthur. I'd probably try to move him if I had him and didn't have Robinson / Smith / Chandler.
I was talking about Azubuike and Thomas. The possible replacements are pretty terrible and I even have 2 million to upgrade. I'm just very hesitant about buying someone who's going to put me in the same position possibly in one game. Last year was especially painful in that regard, and that was even another week into the season with much more data.
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| | | 107 | Senator Urine
ID: 106171416
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 20:45
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If it weren't for that Maggette news I might gamble on someone, but I don't want to sell him and then watch him start going off. Especially after the Blatche-Maxiell double fiasco last year.
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| | | 108 | G
Donor
ID: 5810561615
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 21:31
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Oh I just thought when you said "both" in 101 you were talking about those two. Sorry.
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| | | 109 | Hang Time
Donor
ID: 469222914
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 23:53
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I went up 400k today! Woohoo.
I was surprised to see Brewer go up today, but he did do well... I guess I shouldn't have sold him for J.R. Smith.
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| | | 110 | sugarman7
ID: 311037420
Wed, Nov 05, 2008, 00:15
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Who do you have?
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