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Subject: DPR's GMD Team

Posted by: dpr - [13443116] Tue, Dec 02, 2008, 13:31

Welcome to the team guys. I will send out emails to all of u later and post my own trade thoughts. For know I wanted to set up this thread so we could get some banter going.

Also hopefully someone has the ability to run the stats for our team as I do not.

I will be back this evening to give my thoughts

Good luck to all on the team

dpr
ID: 13443116
Tue, Dec 02, 2008, 13:34

er I dont think I have your emails so leave them if you could

The team:
twolves
comic book guys
coach bird
qwert
wolfer
bd
maineac
DrD

bd
ID: 299112113
Tue, Dec 02, 2008, 14:01

Thanks for selecting me...it has been a rough start this year and my roster value is horrible, so it can only get better.

If someone can walk me through setting up the stats I should be able to run them if needed.

DrD
Donor
ID: 034735159
Tue, Dec 02, 2008, 14:08

I intend to be worthy of the honor of being chosen to be on your team!

DrD
Donor
ID: 034735159
Tue, Dec 02, 2008, 14:09

drjdavies@sbcglobal.net

qwert
ID: 188411214
Tue, Dec 02, 2008, 14:17

here's my email

C. Bird
ID: 5510211919
Tue, Dec 02, 2008, 14:40

jay.spongberg@gmail.com

bd
ID: 299112113
Tue, Dec 02, 2008, 14:56

drd... quit sucking up to the team captain:)

My team is currently:
G - Iggy, Miller, Foye, Augustin
F - D. Howard, Granger, Bargnani, Ariza
C - Hawes, Hilario

First thoughts are:
Thursday Iggy, Miller --> Calderon, Crawford
then Hilario --> Biedrins

Tha leaves Hawes, Howard that should be traded and only 1 trade. I expect Hawes will be bottomed out at $500K so won't lose any more so I was going looking at Howard --> Bosh

This also means holding onto Augustin for the week and hoping he performs well enough that he doesn't plummet.

Any thoughts???

dpr
ID: 13443116
Tue, Dec 02, 2008, 18:49

bd

looks like you are in for another tough weeks with trades. The three guys you are trading clearly need to go and the Howard, augustin, foye and hawes all are sell candidates.

I agree holding hawes makes sense as he doesnt have downward price potential and hopefully in a week starts making money back. A 1 in 6 is ugly though.

One thing to think about is to use your trades this week to set up getting Paul and harris next week. Paul isnt a must have to around christmas but personally I like a move into him earlier. If you can stomach the losses on howard he could make a nice transition. And since you likely will take some losses this week maybe a plan to look at. But you would need flex to do this. A pickup of a forward instead of calderon(a solid pick but not a must have) moving granger would give you this flex.

That leaves how to get harris which I am struggling with myself. Augustin could transition but then you would need spare money and for him to hold that long.

that was long and doesnt give you anything definitive but in planning your moves this week I would be looinig for ways into those two players next week

dpr
ID: 13443116
Tue, Dec 02, 2008, 19:11

For my team.

I have had a lot of trade troubles the last couples weeks, running out of trades over the weekends and then holding players longer then i wanted to. But I should be past that now I hope and can start moving up the standings.

Team:
wade
foye
augustin
daniels

howard
granger
ariza
nesterovic

bynum
biedrins

Wade is the only player i feel I must move this week and I am intending to move him to bosh. howard also could go but I am planning a move from him to paul. While howard will bleed, from 12/4 (the earliest i would sell him) to 12/9 no one projects to outpoint him.

This leaves me with the question of how to get harris. All of my players more expensive then him I already layed my plans out for or are hold til christmas(biedrins, bynum, granger) so dont transition well so I will be looking to transition from a cheapie. Of these only augustin schedule fits so that is the best option.

With the wade and howard moves I would have 4.5M to upgrade however with wade and howard both falling before I sell this amount will close. Hopefully not by too much to close augustin to harris window.

I also need to watch the performance of my cheapies to see if they need to be moved (especially nesterovic) while keeping in mind that if I move them I should not be using excess money. Does anyone see any good upcoming cheapies?

Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Tue, Dec 02, 2008, 19:30

My e-mail is andyman1348@msn.com

I'm planning to go Wade > Bosh before tonight's game, which I realize will hurt the GMD team because Wade's game is in the GMD period and Bosh's isn't, but I think it's the right move.

I already have my plans for getting Paul and Harris next week. Not worrying about any losses Howard may suffer this week---he trades perfectly into Paul.

twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Tue, Dec 02, 2008, 19:39

Like BD am holding Nene and decided not to go for Lee tonight. If I was going to do the Lee move probably should have done it yesterday but was asleep at the switch. HOwever, I will probably trade him tomorrow for J Rich to allow a Wade to Bosh or Bynum possible trade especially if Rasho has another bad game or two.

C. Bird
ID: 5510211919
Tue, Dec 02, 2008, 19:39

I am moving Nene to Biedrins on 12/5. I am moving Roy to Harris and Howard to Paul on 12/9. I know I will lose $$ on Nene and Howard but I am guessing Biedrins loses more. Howard is my only in to Paul. THese are my only planned trades next week.

dpr
ID: 13443116
Tue, Dec 02, 2008, 19:41

on the question of paul. How long can he be held? If you hold through his 1in5 (after which he is a must have again) he has almost no holes til the end of the season. he has a couple instances where he has 2 days off but no big holes. If I move him he will likely not be gone from my team for more then a few days. We could be playing with 9 players the rest of the year.

dpr
ID: 13443116
Tue, Dec 02, 2008, 19:42

Also it seems there are a ton of solid midpriced options right now or in the next week. Granger, Biedrins, harris, Bynum, carter, jamison, johnson, calderon, jackson. pretty much all the top sub 8M players have great schedules. Shame I cant fit more of them

wolfer
ID: 281011278
Tue, Dec 02, 2008, 19:59

email. I plan on going Jackson > Roy before tomorrow night's game. My only concerns right now are the two Indiana players and how long is everyone keeping on to Hawes?

Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Tue, Dec 02, 2008, 20:31

Wolfer, Hawes is now only .04 above the minimum. If you've kept him until now I'm wondering if you should just hold.

twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Tue, Dec 02, 2008, 20:34

I agree with comic book guy, I think if I still had Hawes, I would hold him. I actually given some thought of him for a Rasho replacement.

Maineac
Donor
ID: 26110315
Tue, Dec 02, 2008, 21:53

Hi everyone. I'm probably the old guy here but I still love to compete. I'm truly honored to be included with all the great players on this team. My team is :

Wade-Rondo-Augustin-Daniels
A Jefferson-Brewer-Chandler-Ariza
Howard-Nesterovic

My RV has taken off again after being stuck on 52 mill forever. As a matter of fact I passed 52 four times before it stuck. Please critique my plans and offer suggestions if I'm missing the big picture.

Rondo-> Harris 12/8 (little inefficient by 2 days but great dollar for dollar move.
A Jefferson - could hold thru 15th/17th or->Bosh 12/7
Wade-> Paul on 12/9 (will lose some $ but good pts.
Howard -> Duncan 14th (perfect fit)
Nesterovic had a big game tonite. Was shakey but could be held. Can wait a little.
(Daniels-hold 20th)(Augustin-hold)(Ariza-hold)(Chandler-hold 16th)(Brewer-hold thru B2B 20th)

Rondo and Wade only must move this refresh. Thanks.

Glenn

wolfer
ID: 281011278
Tue, Dec 02, 2008, 21:59

Disregard my comments about Hawes. Now I am wondering if I should go:

Jackson > Duhon before tomorrow night
Nene > Bosh (or Jefferson) on Friday.

I pick up another game with Duhon and I was actually going to move Nene on Friday.

dpr
ID: 13443116
Tue, Dec 02, 2008, 22:10

hey guys I decided to not send out an email since it seems like everybody is checking this thread. lets try to keep up the chatter as I believe it can be helpful to everyone.

I am going to be out of town through the weekend so you probably wont be able to hear from em too mcuh but I will check in occasionally

Also we need to ahve someone run the stats. It really helps o you can quickly look at each others teams. BD, you volunteered so if you could take this one that would bbe great. i know in one of te GMD threads GURU mention it being a simple excel exercis. If you could figure it out that would be great

dpr
ID: 13443116
Tue, Dec 02, 2008, 22:15

Wolfer
if jackson is SJAX I am not sure I agree with movin him I you cant today. His schedule is great through the month and production is good for his price. Unless there is someway that you need the money I would look elsewhere.

dpr
ID: 13443116
Tue, Dec 02, 2008, 22:25

maineac
It looks liek you are holding wade and howard a very long time and this will likely lead to big losses. My plans for them is to move wade to bosh and howard to paul. U could then even move Aljeff to duncan to end at the same guys. I didnt do the math to see how the games earned compares here but it definitely will be beneficial from a money standpoint

Maineac
Donor
ID: 26110315
Tue, Dec 02, 2008, 23:11

dpr,

Ugh! Just saw Wade's -.110 and Howard's -.090 and will take another look. These guys make money the day they play and lose on off days. I have a couple days to fine-tune it. Thanks

Glenn

Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Wed, Dec 03, 2008, 03:02

Glenn, dpr's suggestions sound really good to me. You'll take a bath on Wade if you keep him past tomorrow and Howard if you keep him past this week. Jefferson fits perfectly with Duncan.

Maineac
Donor
ID: 26110315
Wed, Dec 03, 2008, 07:07

I would like to nominate CBG to be our statman. I have a very strong feeling that he is extremely gifted in excel. lol.

Glenn

qwert
ID: 188411214
Wed, Dec 03, 2008, 08:12

I agree with dpr's suggestion of holding Howard through the week if you are low on trades. Not many better differentiators out there...and the transition to Paul is a good one.

Rasho's game last night makes things interesting. Solid game from him tonight and I think he stays no question.

bd, I might be tempted to hold Hawes AND Howard if I were you. Augustin is on pretty thin ice and having an extra trade could be a good idea.

Also, why not trade Iggy and Miller (or at least one of them) on Sunday. You pick up an extra game by waiting to move into Calderon...and you should still be able to afford Nene to Biedrins.

Maineac
Donor
ID: 26110315
Wed, Dec 03, 2008, 08:59

Thanks for the RV heads up.

On 12/4 I will go Wade/Rondo to Bosh/Harris. That will leave some cash to get out of Rasho if needed.

Glenn

twolves
ID: 161542014
Wed, Dec 03, 2008, 10:13

DPR,

Could you send out an email to everyone so we can have all the email addresses in case want to communicate something by email.

bd
ID: 299112113
Wed, Dec 03, 2008, 10:38

Big thanks to Guru for setting up the spreadsheet for us and passing along the instructions.

Also, Maineac...not sure your the old one here. I'm sure DrD and I bring the average age up quite a bit.

Looks like the consensus for my team is to hold onto Dwight and move him into Paul on the 10th. I don't have time to look at it this AM, but will explore it more this afternoon.

DrD
Donor
ID: 034735159
Wed, Dec 03, 2008, 18:13

bd, speak for yourself. I don't think my 80 is going to bring it up that much.

Maineac
Donor
ID: 26110315
Wed, Dec 03, 2008, 18:25

Oh Lord, I'm a mere child of 65.

The chart shows 2 trades for me but is actually 4. I must have been doing a virtual walk-through when bd ran it.

I have to confess right now that I have been totally awestruck for several years by DrD's winning 3 different Ultimate games. Coming close I could handle but winning just doesn't compute.

Glenn

bd
ID: 389151123
Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 00:29

The chart doesn't like vista and excel 2007 and didn't update anything...basically it copied what Guru had sent to me. I sent it to my house and will where I have excel 2003 and it seems to update fine. When i refresh it tomorrow it should show everything correctly and even show the tallies of what trades we have made over the last few days.

I just returned home and did a quick look at the boxscores... wow why didn't Rondo ever play like that when I owned him earlier this year. Miller & Iguodala picked it up the last few games at least. Howard was good, Foye OK and Augustin scored 10 but did virtually nothing else (not a good sign).

looks like scores are already posted for tonight games, that may be the quickest I have ever seen them posted.

DrD
Donor
ID: 034735159
Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 01:09

Wrong DrD, but don't give up on me. Am going Brand>Joe Johnson today. Any better suggestions?

allhair allstars
Sustainer
ID: 50902421
Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 01:34

[Intruder Alert]

bd,
FYI... I ran the standings earlier today on Excel 2007 without any issues...

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 02:21

I still think "Head-to-Head" is one of the coolest things I ever coded.

Maineac
Donor
ID: 26110315
Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 03:56

RSF,

I'm new to GMD and just discovered HtoH yesterday and thought it is amazing. Of course, my wife has to turn the computer on for me, so it isn't that hard to amaze me.

DrD,

You've got some splainin to do. How does one become the "wrong" DrD? If you're 80, you know who used "splainin" before me. Good luck.

Glenn

Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 04:00

Question for bd and DrD: what names do you guys use on the Sporting News site? I've never seen a "bd" there. I know of a Dr. Davies and a Dr. D who was once champion but is apparently not represented here.

DrD, if you're looking at Joe Johnson, can I assume you already have Bosh? Might Biedrins work better, or do you have him? I looked at Joe for my teams, but he got in the way of getting Devin Harris, which is a high priority.

I'm in a quandary myself right now.
I have 4 trades and my team is:

Roy, Foye, Augustin, Daniels
Howard, Bosh, Nene, Ariza
Bynum, Nesterovic

I kept Nene this long to move him for Biedrins Friday and I'm sure I want to go Rasho > Hawes Saturday and have Hawes on my team until, well, I don't.
What's screwed things up is Augustin's disgraceful performance and inevitable sell-off.
I could go Augustin > Crawford and Nene > Lee, but I hate getting Lee so late, don't completely trust Crawford and don't want to have 6 trades planned for the next two weeks (Foye or Daniels would have to go for Devin Harris in this scenario).
The best trade I can think of for Augustin in his price range is Russell Westbrook, but Westbrook could just as well be the guard I upgrade to Harris on Wednesday so I'd have him for only 3 games.
Or I could just keep Augustin, lose all the money I made on him, get three games that are likely to be crappy and still trade Howard, Roy and Augustin for Paul, Harris and a medium priced forward next week.
Is it worth dumping Augustin just to avoid losing all his money? It would make everything easier if Augustin was hurt!

Maineac
Donor
ID: 26110315
Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 04:38

CBG,

I have enough flex to go Augustin to Hawes on Saturday. Of course that leaves me with Rasho and the same kind of pressure to sell to protect RV coming soon if not already here. Then of course, Hawes will make a million in about 10 days and will again be pressured to dump him. This can make one dizzy. I guess I forgot what your question was but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express and had Rondo last night so I'm not real dumb.

I now see the difference between DrD and DR.D. I recall a post last year where a DrD stated that "his son was a better player" so I assume we have Dad on our team.

Glenn

bd
ID: 299112113
Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 08:47

I think I have posted maybe once or twice on the sporting news site, and since my team is actually registered under Drdavies I think that is how it showed up.
Just to clarify... DrD is my father in law and he registers the teams and then we each take a few. We normally do better than we are this year, but even after all these years we haven't figured it out well enough to compete with the very upper echelon. Roster value is where we usually fall behind (this year significantly).

Allhair -- I have Vista and 2007 at the office and was getting run time errors and messages that labels aren't supported by 2007. I don't think the labels would be an issue, but when hitting debug for the runtime error about 7 different screens popped up. I sent screen shots to Guru, but just decided to run it from the house on 2003 and it worked fine. I'll try to figure it out in the next week or so as I don't normally get on my computer every morning prior to heading into work.

twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 09:26

Well, I changed plans and dumped Wade/Nene for JRich and Lebron as concerned Wade might not play. Lebron will probably have to become Bosh at a later date.

I am still looking for a way to Harris next week but have options and probably depend on money windows.

Maineac
Donor
ID: 26110315
Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 09:41

I dropped Wade (my favorite player), with a heavy heart, for Bosh today. I had planned to drop Rondo for Harris today also but may wait. Harris lost a third of his owners yesterday after an off game followed by an off day. I may save a few bucks by waiting for tomorrow. Any RV gurus have an opinion on this. Thanks.

Glenn

DrD
Donor
ID: 034735159
Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 11:23

CBG: I have Bosh and noticed I don't have the flexibility to get J. Johnson, so Biedrins it is. Thanks for the advice. It was very helpful!

bd
ID: 299112113
Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 15:42

With Augustin's performance (or lack thereof) I think I need to get out of him.
Here are my current thoughts and I will need to do the trades in the next hour or so, so please respond with any input or suggestions.
I have $2.07 cash and am looking at trading today
Iguodala, Miller and Augustin --> Crawford, JRich and Okafor. I would trade Nene --> Harris after his game tonight.

I can move Bargnani to Center and I would have the flex to move Howard to Paul at trade refresh.
I may be getting into Harris too early, but i feel Augustin will take a large hit.

Any thoughts?

qwert
ID: 188411214
Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 17:40

45,

I think Harris will actually gain a fair amount tonight with people moving into him from Wade...or other places.

I bought him today...although I'm still contemplating some other moves.

Alternatively, since you may not have anyone playing tonight, you could go with an invalid roster and sell but not buy.

qwert
ID: 188411214
Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 17:46

47

Probably too late, but does that mean you'll be tradeless tomorrow? That's always pretty risky.

And I think you're setting yourself up for more trade trouble by getting two bobcats who only have a two week schedule.

I think two week holds are ok in some instances, but if it's in the process of going tradeless on a friday...I think you're better off looking more longterm.

I would be tempted to hold one of the sixers, if not both, until Sunday. Neither are widely owned and you could gain a game by selling for someone like Calderon on Sunday...as well as keep a trade for putting out bigger fires that may come up.

wolfer
ID: 281011278
Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 21:31

I guess that the only move I am going to make before the weekend is to move Nene to get more $$$. What is the best cheapie out there? I have Ariza and am possibly thinking about Pryzbilla or Chandler.

twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Thu, Dec 04, 2008, 21:59

I am not sure there are many if you want to trade tomorrow and need a forward for under 2 million.

Chandler has not been very good lately and is at most probably a less than 2 week hold unless he really picks it up.

Prz is okay if Oden is not playing well or in foul trouble.

Azu is injured but if he plays might be worth a shot.

Hawes is cheap and playing but schedule at least this week is real poor and so so after.

Rasho is more highly owned and cheap but I suspect , if he does not put a few more decent games will start losing more money quickly.

Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Fri, Dec 05, 2008, 03:52

Wolfer, I don't see a cheapie train on the horizon, other than Hawes, who you have. I think Przybilla and Chandler are within a week of losing money. The potential train you can get from Nene is Crawford, unless getting a player in that price range spoils your other plans. Or you can get Harris early if you have enough money in the bank.

wolfer
ID: 281011278
Fri, Dec 05, 2008, 11:40

I ended up goinbg Nene > Harris. I wanted to clear room to make moves after the weekend, but there were no viable alternatives out there with the injuries to Azu and Robinson.

bd
ID: 299112113
Fri, Dec 05, 2008, 15:40

Need to get out of Nene today and am a little short of Beidrins. Choices I had in mind were Carter and Okafor.
1) Okafor would still allow me to go Howard --> Paul
2) If I go with Carter then I would then need to open a guard spot next week so I would combo Howard and Foye (probably) into Paul/??

G
ID: 369542914
Fri, Dec 05, 2008, 17:10

*intruder*

BD,

You have all the best mid range priced guys on your roster already. If the grid is right above you only have 1 trade left. I don't see Okafor (erractic production) or Vince (2 games) being worth using your last trade on a Friday.

Nene plays again on Saturday. You could get thru that game and then see what the landscape provides. There are a lot of teams that still have two games left so you could get 4 games for the TP out of that spot or you could find that someone has emerged that you actually want.

Of course if you trust the health of VC or think the latest Okafor is more real than the early season Okafor then that is the way to go.

bd
ID: 389151123
Fri, Dec 05, 2008, 17:57

G, thanks for the advice and I should probably do that. Going tradeless on Friday isn't what I like to do, but holding Nene isn't what I want to do either.
I actually like Carter this year, but he is listed as day to day and would force an additional trade if I want to get into Paul next week.
I am going to risk going tradeless and go with Okafor..wish me luck.

Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Sun, Dec 07, 2008, 01:45

The biggest thrill of my Ultimate Hoops career occurred tonight: I met Trevor Ariza at a high school game at his alma mater and told him that he had made me more than a million cyber dollars!

Maineac
Donor
ID: 26110315
Sun, Dec 07, 2008, 06:05

CBG,

I should not and cannot and will not bring myself to ask you which country he thinks "cyber" dollars come from. Anyhow, I would think that being in all these leagues with me would probably be right up there too.

Glenn

wolfer
ID: 01114713
Sun, Dec 07, 2008, 16:31

I went Brewer > Azu to free up space and possibly increase in RV. I am leaning toward Granger > Biedrins tomorrow, or would I be better off going Wallace > Howard?

Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Sun, Dec 07, 2008, 17:01

Wolfer, I don't think of Granger as a sell---starting Wednesday the Pacers' schedule doesn't hit a really bad patch until March. They have a 6 in 14 but that's during the holiday weeks when no team plays more than 7. I have Granger on my two other teams and I'm keeping him indefinitely because he's a decent value and a F/G, but on the other hand he's not so good that I wouldn't trade him if he was my only way into someone I really wanted. A two game advantage of Biedrins might be worth it in spite of yesterday's clunker.

If Wallace is going to be out and your trade situation is good getting Dwight's back to back would be a great trade for points, especially if Howard could be your way into Paul. Plus, I'd like to get some of my Howard money back!

Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Sun, Dec 07, 2008, 17:44

Wolfer, I looked over your team and you're going to have to check on Stephen Jackson---he may have to go for Biedrins. Also, I don't think you have the cash to go Wallace > Howard unless another trade is involved besides Brewer > Azu. The Wallace report is weird---you can't tell if he's going to miss no games or as many as 3. If he's supposed to be out only one I guess I'd hold, although I don't think Wallace is a good value right now.

wolfer
ID: 01114713
Sun, Dec 07, 2008, 18:35

It's going to be whomever misses the most > Biedris. I am leaning toward Wallace, but if Jackson misses time, then its easier for me.

qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Sun, Dec 07, 2008, 19:10

are people holding marquis daniels or selling?

C. Bird
ID: 579542815
Sun, Dec 07, 2008, 19:20

holding x 5

Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Sun, Dec 07, 2008, 19:39

Holding the Marquis de Daniels after a very timely good game.

qwert
ID: 188411214
Mon, Dec 08, 2008, 17:42

I'm in the unfortunate position of having to trade Marquis Daniels if I want to move Howard for Paul on Wednesday (which I do)

My options are pretty much
A - sell him today for a g/f (miles? azubuke? The pool is very shallow here and I haven't got much confidence in azubuke)
B - hold until wednesday and sell him with Howard for Paul and a F.

Any brilliant options that I'm missing?

twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Mon, Dec 08, 2008, 19:21

I think I am in the same position on a couple of teams and need the flex. If waiting, will you need a g/f later in 10 days when trading Paul or is everyone holding through his 1 in 5??

Of the above, I would probably lean toward A if planning on selling anyways. Neither Azu or Miles is a great choice, but I may lean toward AZu.

qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Mon, Dec 08, 2008, 19:48

Think I'll probably hold through the 1 in 5, though having the flex to move into Howard from a guard is another bonus.

And I think I agree...azu's schedule and sjax and magette hurting makes him the most attractive I think.

wolfer
ID: 01114713
Mon, Dec 08, 2008, 21:22

I ended up going with Wallace > Biedrins before I found out about Jackson.

bd
ID: 389151123
Mon, Dec 08, 2008, 22:45

At least for tonight it looks like Biedrins was a great choice.

bd
ID: 299112113
Tue, Dec 09, 2008, 15:35

I know the consensus move talked about is D. Howard to Paul after tonight's game. However, over the 13 days after that (if you hold Paul through his 1 in 5) he has 6 games and using 15 day averages projects to 317 Points. (Interestingly, D. Howard projects more points than Paul). During the same time period Bosh (as well as Carter) each have 8 games. Bosh projects slightly higher TSNP and then does transition nicely into Paul.
I guess my question is which option do you prefer?
1)Go into Paul and hold through his 1 and 5.I feel he'll take a price hit since there are several teams that have 3 games vs. the 1 game for Paul (D. Howard included). I do realize he would gain this back and maybe even more.
2)Go Howard --> Bosh --> Paul

If not holding Paul through his 1 in 5 would you use a trade to go into him, then out of him...then back into him after his 1 in 5? Being as trigger happy as I am I don't think I would have the trades to do this.

If going into Bosh would you do it tonight before the games or stick with Dwight tonight and trade tomorrow?

qwert
ID: 188411214
Tue, Dec 09, 2008, 16:56

Under no circumstances would I trade Howard today.

I would and will trade Howard for Paul and hold.

C. Bird
ID: 5510211919
Tue, Dec 09, 2008, 17:32

I like the idea bd and see you working. However, Paul is a stud and a bad game by him is 40+. Bosh has had a few in the 20's and is the third highest owned player in the game. I will be passing on Bosh and going to Paul. If I have the trades I may move Paul for Howard for a 3 to 1 game advantage if I can't figure another way into Howard.

dpr
ID: 13443116
Tue, Dec 09, 2008, 19:35

I was planning to hold paul and move bosh into Howard. Today i realized that going from Paul to howard and then bosh back into paul gives me 3 bosh to one paul for 1 trade so I am looking that route bu need to solidify my plans to maintain the flex.

My situation is different as already have.

However for yours you seem to use paul losing money for the 1in5 as a deterrent to getting him now. however he will make money up to that point so you would likely be buying him at a higher price if you wait. Not that that is for sure a bad thing I just wouldnt use his price loss for the 1in5 be a reason to wait

Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Tue, Dec 09, 2008, 20:15

76

I don't think 8 games of Bosh to 6 of Paul is worth a trade. TSNP would probably be close, and while Paul may lose the money he makes if you hold him I think Bosh has made about as much money as he's going to so financially it would be about a wash too.

wolfer
ID: 01114713
Tue, Dec 09, 2008, 21:21

I decided not to wait on Jackson and went to Jackson> Crawford. I was originally going to wait to go Kobe > Paul on Thursday, but that is idiotic, so that is going to happen tomorrow.

Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Tue, Dec 09, 2008, 23:27

I have a minor dilemma: my way into Harris is either Westbrook or Foye. Both have 4 games this week. Westbrook has been more productive (32 tsnp/game in his last 9) and can lose almost no money, whereas Foye is liable to bleed during the week because of his high ownership. On the other hand, Foye has 4 games to Westbrook's 3 before I intend to trade for Derrick Rose on the 16th (Rose can be held for 5 weeks and should gradually make a ton of money). I will have only two trades left after tomorrow, so it's possible that I will have to make injury trades and won't even be able to get Rose when I want him. It's pretty much a toss-up between dropping Westbrook and Foye but any feedback is appreciated.

dpr
ID: 13443116
Tue, Dec 09, 2008, 23:49

What are your plans when you move out of brandon Roy? He needs to go soon. Tho I see that you are using his flex to get paul so he can't be you transition to harris.

dpr
ID: 13443116
Tue, Dec 09, 2008, 23:56

also if you moved from westbrook you would make the on thursday i would assume instead on waiting til tuesday. This makes the option a closer comparison of 4 foye (100Tsnp?) versus 1 westbrooka nd 2 rose(95TSNP?). Add in that you will be getting into rose earlier and thereby gaining money and moving out of foye who will be losing and this seems the better option. However it does force you to make your decision on whether you for sure want rose earlier

Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Wed, Dec 10, 2008, 00:28

The plan is to go from Howard, Roy and Westbrook or Foye to Paul, Harris and Nene (who I think will have a few big paydays the way his schedule is structured). Then I would free up more money if I need it by trading 4 Bosh games for 6 Duncans or through an injury trade. I won't have the flex to go Paul to Howard during the 1 in 5 but Nene is a much better value than any F/G I can find. Also, I won't go beneath two trades early in the week unless I absolutely have to so I wouldn't get Rose until Tuesday.

Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Wed, Dec 10, 2008, 00:43

If I traded Howard, Roy, Westbrook and Foye right now for Paul, Harris, Nene and Rose it would fit EXACTLY but I'm not going to have one trade on a Wednesday.

dpr
ID: 13443116
Wed, Dec 10, 2008, 01:15

it seems our teams are almost identical. We currently only ahve 2 different and you are moving both of them. I am also going into Nene soon (from foye) so I think that will leave our only difference as my granger versus ure rose. However I am thinking of moving ariza early (lost 50k on a gameday albeit a light trading day) to preserve the Paul to howard move. I will need to go cheap here tho.

dpr
ID: 13443116
Wed, Dec 10, 2008, 01:20

actually my math was a bit messed up. Not sure i can afford the move into howard (and the subsequent Bosh->paul) even if I move ariza to a .5 guy. At current prices it would be about a wash and with paul likely to gain while howard loses I guess I would be safe. have to think more now.

Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Wed, Dec 10, 2008, 04:15

In regard to our roster similarities, I guess great minds think alike, well my pretty good mind and your great one!

The fact that you have a plan out of Foye before Tuesday just reinforces my thought that Foye will bleed through the week: few schedules of widely owned players dry up this week so I think the players whose schedules end soon will be the ones to go when good new schedules start. Therefore, I guess I will keep Westbrook: I have more points than any other serious player so I'm more concerned about falling too far behind in money.

Funny how I spend the most time thinking about the decisions that don't matter that much.

twolves
ID: 251139910
Wed, Dec 10, 2008, 09:08

As far as Foye goes, I am not sure how much he will bleed this week after today until next Tuesday. McHale does like him and seems more comfortable recently playing the point.

I think all the guards including Westbrook, Daniels,Duhon, foye take a hit today to clear a guard spot or two.

I have Green and similar to Westbrook will need to go sometime this week. Westbrook and Duhon I think may take hits today and tomorrow depending on future plans despite their 3 in 4 later in the week.

qwert
ID: 361022217
Wed, Dec 10, 2008, 11:15

Not sure if duhon will take a hit today. I think he'll get enough
buys due to his play to make up for those selling for a G spot.

I went Howard to Paul. Pretty clueless what to do the rest of the
week. Will stand pat today since everyone outside of hawes is
playing.

dpr
ID: 13443116
Wed, Dec 10, 2008, 12:25

Im thinking ahead here but looking for advice. If I want to do the bosh-howard-paul triangle then I need to move ariza for a player around the minimum who is guard eligible.

There seem to be 3 options. Simmons, Graham, and Barea. Barea seems to be the best bet for points but the GF on the other two could allow me to add wade around christmas when I sell Bynum/biedrins. Am I thinking too fa ahead and sacrificing too much my picking up a player I dont expect to average 20 just so that I can get wade in 2.5 weeks?

Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Wed, Dec 10, 2008, 22:44

dpr, how many games would you keep Howard for after you buy Paul back? How many games does Bosh have in the same span? When would you trade Ariza? If you trade Ariza soon for anyone other than Barea you're likely to lose a lot of points, but Ariza possibly losing money is a concern, even though his schedule holds up through Christmas and he has great talent. His production has been down since I met him, though. I hope it's not my fault!

dpr
ID: 13443116
Wed, Dec 10, 2008, 22:51

Howard woudl be a old well into the new year. I forget the exact sell date but he and bosh had the same number of games so I wouldnt be gaining there. I would however get 10(?) more TSNP/game so over the 10+ games or whatever it is that is alot of points.

I would trade ariza soon. When I am not sure but potentially as early as tomorrow and as late as next thursday to facilitate my plans although realisically that means as late as monday. From tomorrow to ariza final set date he and barea play the same number of games so I dont see this move me much of a change pointwise it would be more about making money and giving me the oppurtunity to move into howard.

qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Wed, Dec 10, 2008, 23:28

ariza is pushing for an exit tomorrow.

bd
ID: 389151123
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 02:07

Looks like Twolves and myself were fortunate enough to have JRich go from a great schedule to a horrible schedule due to the trade. Hadn't planned on selling him, but now have to look at options. I also have Ariza who is bleeding and Foye who is doing well, but also bleeding. Add to that the fact that I hold Bargnani who has been terrible and I am already hoping for the next trade refresh.

Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 03:33

dpr, I can see the difference between Howard and Bosh being worth making an extra lateral trade, especially the way Bosh has been playing lately.

Is anybody making a knee-jerk trade out of Ariza tomorrow? I can see trading him for Hawes if you don't have him (I do), but this is the really unpleasant part of the game for me, when a player whose schedule is still good for quite a while (15 days in Ariza's case) gets sold because of a statistically insignificant downturn in production (17 TSNP/g in his last 3 after averaging 25) and mainly just because of high ownership.

What are people doing? The thought of dropping Ariza now with no obvious money train to go to makes me ill. Am I missing somebody?

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twolves
ID: 251139910
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 10:00

Yes, the question of the day for BD and myself--What to do with with J Rich who went from great week to worst possible schedule.

I do have the flex to get either a guard of Forward, so am looking at all options but am leaning toward a guard--Granger would be a g/f replacement but has a couple of three game weeks through the holidays. 20/20 hindsight--I should have sold Jrich for Harris instead of Granger.

Other thoughts: Daniels, Barea, Rondo, Rose, Carter.

If going with a forward, the Washington duo could be possibilities.

Any other thoughts or suggestions??

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dpr
ID: 13443116
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 13:40

I am not sure what your plans are with foye and ariza but they both may have to go soon so I would be sure to leave some money. I move from either of them into Nene sat looks good.

Of the players you mentioned. I wouldnt look to daniels. his production hasnt been as good lately and he has a lot of owners so you could be looking to move him in 10 days.

Of the straight guards I would prefer rondo to rose. Carter is interesting as he has the game advantage but has the injury risk always.

Granger has been disapointing pointwise lately and doesn't have quite as good a schedule so I would go to the others unless u want the GF.

If you want to go cheap barea looks good for money but could be a another short term cheapie. If you have solid plans for the money would make the move tho. Simmons is another cheapie that looks good to be and I am strongly considering. less risk but less upside. I am mainly considering because of my interest in a GF tho.

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bd
ID: 299112113
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 15:11

Twolves -- If I had Flexibility I would go JRich to Rondo... but unfortunately JRich is a Forward for me. I may package with Foye. To get Rondo and then look at a cheapie F/C.

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twolves
ID: 161542014
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 17:43

I do have Foye, but plan on holding at least until next week but have given thought to holding longer if he produces in the low-mid 30s on average this week and could potentially stay until 12/30 but would cost some money.

J Rich probably needs to be traded to a longer term hold for me. It sounds like Rondo preferred over rose, Carter or Granger if I want a guard. I am not interested in going cheap today but may later this week.

104

wolfer
ID: 01114713
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 18:11

Re 98

I was either dropping him or Sessions. I am leaning more on going Sessions > Rondo. I too don't see a viable altermative for Ariza.

105

C. Bird
ID: 5510211919
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 18:39

I moved Ariza to Hawes and I need to move Lee as well.

I am thinking of going to either

Dirk
Caron
Nene

I like Caron the best but that only leaves me with 1.97 in the bank to deal with Chandler and possibly Foye. If I get Nene I will have 5.23. You guys like Caron or Nene?

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Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 19:20

I think of Nene as a better value than Butler, but Butler could be held for a LONG time and has been hot of late. With 1.97 you have almost enough money to go Foye > Rose or even Rondo if you trade down from Chandler to a mega-cheapie like Bonner or Simmons or (gulp!) Chris Andersen. If one of those options is palatable to you, you may want to go with Butler. With Nene, you could go Foye, Chandler > Rose, Troy Murphy but that window is so small you'd have to do it today.

107

qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 19:26

Moving Lee and Ariza

Need a C

A - Bonner and Dirk

B - Biedrins and Simmons

C - Biedrins and Bonner

A gets the most points per game, but Bonner has one fewer game this week than Simmons and a shorter schedule (maybe a good thing...would I really hold Simmons for a month?).

Tempted to go with Dirk at his bargain price, but worried about getting burned by Biedrins continuing not to own him.

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Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 19:37

Would you guys trade Ariza tonight for no other reason than to avoid the cap hit? I already own Hawes, have only two trades and want to have enough money left over to go Westbrook > Rose or Rondo, so I would want a cheapie. The best trade I can think of for Ariza is Bonner. Should I trade for Bonner, hold Ariza or is there someone I've missed? (don't have the flex for Barea).

109

Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 19:40

Qwert, are you keeping in mind that Biedrins has probably already made almost all of his money?

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qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 19:40

CBG...we're in the same boat. I think I am trading Ariza...he just has too far to fall...and his minutes are always a question mark, so you can't predict whether he would be able to stop the bleeding.

So you would go Bonner over Simmons? I think I would too, which then opens up

Dirk, Biedrins or Butler.

I think the ship may have sailed on Biedrins...his price is at a season high and his ownership will be near the tops after tonight. Dirk on the other hand is at a season low in price and is performing well.

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twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 19:41

I might lean toward toward B although you already have a g/f. Biedrins does have dense schedule but already made gains and is a f/c. He would need to be traded in two weeks. I would rather swap studs than cheapies if possible. Dirk may gain as time goes along but, I am not sure how much as there may be other options at forward.

Bonner is interesting but not sure how long his schedule will be and assume probably trade after 10 days 2 weeks.

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C. Bird
ID: 5510211919
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 19:41

107 I would go with option C
108 The only reason I traded Ariza was to avoid the cap hit. If I were you and I had 2 trades I would hold Ariza. I'd eat the $$ losses and deal with him next week. Too much can change btwn now and trade refresh...I also don't like Bonner. Just my 2 cents

FWIW I went to Nene x 5. I like Butler more but I have too many cheapies to trade in the next week and I like having a cushion of over 5MM to help with the transition.

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qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 19:42

109 - yep...getting him would just be damage control pointwise, but I'm leaning toward Dirk.

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dpr
ID: 13443116
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 19:46

qwert

I am not sure your cash situation but what forwards could you pair with nene if he isnt already in your plans? It isnt the smoothest transition but he seems to be one the best bargains for the coming weeks if you could find someone to pair him with.

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qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 19:54

thanks guys.

dpr, I have 11.64 million...so if I got Nene, I would have 6.83 for a F. I'm not THAT crazy about nene, despite his schedule.

the thing I like about getting a cheapie is it leaves me enough cash to upgrade duhon and/or move bosh to howard next week.

oh and I have 3 trades, not 2 like the standings say.

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Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 20:26

Unless someone tells me I'm an utter buffoon for doing so, I'm keeping Ariza. I'm hoping that his losses are largely restricted to the next 2-3 days, meaning I'd lose maybe 400-500K, not miss out on a big gainer because I see no trains to trade him for, and probably gain a few points. I'd really be short on trades in two weeks if I traded Ariza. Plus, Ariza could get some buybacks when the Lakers have what amounts to a 5 in 6.

117

twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 21:00

I was thinking about trading him but with the J Rich situation and only two trades left for the week, I think I am going to hold Ariza and see what happens here for a couple of days. I agree that 5 in 6 at Xmas looks interesting but may be hard to hold him that long.

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Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 21:10

I have no doubt that the next few days will be brutal for Ariza owners, but I'm hoping that by Sunday people will move on to somebody else as their must sell. Ariza's schedule is still GOOD. His role is defined. He's had only one game under 15 all year.

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Maineac
ID: 61142206
Sat, Dec 13, 2008, 15:05

After trading for Paul, Biedrins and Hawes, I have 1 trade and 5 mill. Now Brewer has to go and I can go to Dirk and use all my loot or Hilario and have 4 mill left for refresh. I like Hilario better. Would like some reinforcement if any strong feelings on this. Thanks.

Glenn

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Maineac
ID: 61142206
Sat, Dec 13, 2008, 15:38

Upon further review, I like Rondo better for money and points in the long run. Any thoughts?

Glenn

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twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Sat, Dec 13, 2008, 15:50

It may depend on what your G or F position in the future will look like and money needs. I think the guard position will require more near term planning and one reason I have not considered Barea because I like others better. I think both will do about same points wise as Rondo has been over his average(until last two games) and Nene recently a little under. I think the overall average will be close and their long term holdability is similar.

I do have Rondo and view him as a possible longer term hold but last two games have been not so good.

I like Nene for the price and am looking at him for the futue but not sure when just yet.

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qwert
ID: 361022217
Sat, Dec 13, 2008, 17:18

I'm not that crazy about nene but he's obviously going to make a
lot of money and can produce. Like twolves I think it all depends
on your plans for the future. I think planning is pretty important
right now with the possibility of Paul, howard and wade next
week.

I plan on going with stuckey as my cheap guard next week and
will also be avoiding barea.

125

Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Sat, Dec 13, 2008, 20:26

Glenn,

If you're making the trade today, it sure seems natural to go for Nene (2 game short term advantage over Rondo) but it depends on your other plans.

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Maineac
Donor
ID: 26110315
Sat, Dec 13, 2008, 23:37

CBG,

I wish I had gotten this earlier. I had knee surgery Monday and was out of it until Friday and then decided on Hilario for that very reason. Then I took one last quick look and my bias in favor of Rondo made me forget that. At the moment it looks like a major fornicateup.

Glenn

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qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Sun, Dec 14, 2008, 11:20

So far happy that I went with Dirk over Biedrins for sure.

Bosh's next two games are pretty important. I don't think he makes it to the triangle back into Paul unless he blows up in these two.

One thing I'm starting to look at is a bridge of Bosh to Camby on Tuesday...then either into Paul at the end of next week or Howard (if he's not healthy enough to sell Paul for on Thursday...in which case, bank a trade and hold Paul through his one in five)

129

twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Sun, Dec 14, 2008, 11:46

All my original plans for Lebron seem to be disappearing: Bosh, Howard(injury) and Wade(JRich eliminated the g/f). Although Bosh looks like a good choice, I think I may hold Lebron for now due to the concern about Bosh production.

130

qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Sun, Dec 14, 2008, 11:59

probably a good call with bosh leaking already.

of course...he'll probably put up a couple of monsters now but that's life.

weird trading day...no clear sells or buys...other than Paul for those who don't have him.

131

Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 03:11

126

Glenn, you sure didn't miss out on much by not having Nene yesterday! Rondo's a potential long term hold so it could work out okay, but you did have the rare achievement of buying a player on a day on which he lost money. Hope you're feeling okay and recovering well.

132

Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 03:27

A couple of questions:

1. Do you guys think their will be a huge run on Stuckey this week in spite of his mediocre schedule, to the point where I should trade Daniels for him Tuesday even though Daniels has 3 games while Stuckey has 2? (I think I know the answer).

2. Some people including Qwert are talking about getting Wade. When is his his buy-in date, Jan. 2? What players trade into him? I'm planning to have Paul, Harris, Stuckey and probably Rose as my guards at that time and I don't see a transition from any of them. Is Wade important enough for me to have a plan for?

134

twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 08:35

STuckey has put up a couple of good games and I think there is interest in him because of his price. If he puts up same numbers as last couple, he would likely outpoint Daniels despite the extra game.

I sold LBJ yesterday with last trade after deciding I needed some cash for upgrades and he would continue to get sells over the next week or two. Bosh looked good yesterday, but decided on Dirk over Duncan due to a slightly better schedule long term. Hopefully Josh Howard will not return too soon as it seems Dirk has been very productive with Howard out.

135

qwert
ID: 188411214
Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 08:56

my tentative plan is to move bosh to camby(tomorrow) to wade (on 12/23) but if Bosh does well tonight I may hang on to him and play it a little less aggressive. Unlike camby, bosh has a long term schedule, so I could hold him and take a look at a couple of Wade games to see if he's going to get back to his old self.

barring a huge game from Howard tonight, I think I've ruled out the Paul/Bosh/Howard triangle. I would rather not jump in early if Howard's not totally healthy.

CBG...where does Stuckey have 2 games to Daniels' 3? It will certainly make you money...and I see their schedules as being exactly the same over the next 3 weeks (starting tuesday).

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bd
ID: 389151123
Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 09:18

CBG mentioned buying Tuesday and Daniels plays Wed, Fri, Sat. While Stuckey plays Wed, Fri.

I have bee swamped lately and haven't spent the time I need to on my team. I ahve Bargnani who has been absolutely horrible and have Foye who has been good (except last night). Foye's schedule is turning bad, so I need to look at replacements and it appears stuckey is the buzz word at the moment.

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qwert
ID: 188411214
Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 09:48

I see...I would think the money would make it worth the 2 games to 3...but not sure. Not a question I have to answer, as I am moving Duhon for him.

138

dpr
ID: 13443116
Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 13:48

I need to figure out if i want to still do the howard-bosh-paul triangle. I deecided that if i was going to do it then I would move bosh to camby to gain a game but i would do that tomrrow. If I make that move and howard didnt come back then i am in trouble as camby doesnt transition well into people whereas bosh could be held. Also think i am going to move daniels to stuckey tomorrow

139

qwert
ID: 188411214
Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 15:41

Camby transitions into Wade...but that's assuming you have the flex and the free G spots.

I'm also looking at the possibility of Camby from Bosh tomorrow.

140

dpr
ID: 13443116
Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 15:58

I do have the flex but i already had a plan for wade (bynum). I guess I could jsut make the move to camby and then reevaluate the rest if howard isnt ready to go

141

DrD
Donor
ID: 034735159
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 05:14

Crawford>Stuckey today! Is it worth losing the TSN points to gain the money? Just curious as I don't have any trades left on this team?

142

twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 08:40

If you still have Foye, I might use him instead of Crawford despite my interest since I own Foye with no trades left today.

AS for Crawford and Bosh whom I own on other non-GMD teams, I think I would hold them and hope for a big game or two to make up for the bad ones since they have dense schedules coming up.

Crawford has been getting lots of minutes and is capable of big games.

144

twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 09:58

DPR,

Could you send out an email out when you get some time so we have them to share some info and get to know these "old" guys on the team?

145

dpr
ID: 13443116
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 13:20

twolves,
I remember u asked for that weeks ago and I was traveling and i forgot. However I am still going to put it off another day. I ahve two finals today and have to pack to go home for christmas so a bit busy.

Also I dont know if the details have been explained yet but tomorrow is a waiver period. The it goes this year is we have to submit either 1 or 2 players from our team (depending if we have 8 r 9) for a redraft. This means that tomorrow our roster will likely change.

We have to leave two members unprotected. For tomorrow I am going to have that be wolfer and DrD. You guys are at the bottom of our standings. Since bd has volunteered to run our standings and has been an active member of discussion(not that the rest have not) he gets the pass. Hopefully things work out so that you guys can remain on the team. If not enjoy your new teams and hopefully can rejoin us later in the year.

146

bd
ID: 299112113
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 13:44

DPR if you want to put me on the waiver wire... the way Guru sends the spreadsheet to me, if you have a simple knowledge of excel, it only takes about 5 minutes. I guess what I'm saying is that don't just keep me to do the spreadsheets as I think anyone could be shown how to do it.

147

bd
ID: 299112113
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 14:42

I have 2 trades (amazing for me on a Tuesday) and $2 mill cash. I would like get Rose & Stuckey but don't have that flexibility.
Thoughts are as follow:
Sell Bargnani/Foye which would give me $8.23
I would love to get Rose who is 5.47 but that wouldn't leave me enough to get Milsap or Scola.

So do I go bargnani/Foye:
1) --> Rose/ ??? (F or C under 2.76)
2) --> Stuckey/Milsap (Boozer sounds like he is close to returning, but Milsap still should put up good numbers)
3) --> Stuckey/Scola
4) anyone have any other suggestions???

148

bd
ID: 299112113
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 15:08

Other option that I am now leaning to is
Foye/Bargnani --> Stuckey/Bonner.

149

qwert
ID: 188411214
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 15:47

bd, do you have a plan for the excess money if you get stuckey and bonner?

I probably like that move best, but only if the money's going to good use.

150

C. Bird
ID: 579542815
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 19:08

Do you guys think I should drop Daniels today for Stucky and lose the game or take the 3 Daniels games vs. 2 Stucky games? I really torn.

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qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 19:16

that's the 64 million dollar question.

I think I would, but I don't really know.

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dpr
ID: 13443116
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 19:19

i did, if that helps

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qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 19:41

Camby or Randolph from Bosh?

154

C. Bird
ID: 579542815
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 19:50

Randolph

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Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 20:12

150

My general rule on whether to take two games as opposed to three before the schedule advantage actually kicks in is if the player with two games is clearly better, and may outscore the other player even giving up a game, go ahead and do it.

Stuckey figures to make A LOT of money because numerous players trade into him---Daniels, Foye, Duhon, Chandler and Augustin (305 soles held on until the bitter end).

156

twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 20:18

I like Camby although Zach has been very good lately with Kaman out. It may depend on money needs this week as neither is likely to be a long term hold. I think Camby may make a little more money but could be wrong.

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qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 20:26

thanks guys. went with camby.

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Comic Book Guy
ID: 20817160
Wed, Dec 17, 2008, 03:02

Am I naive in thinking that there won't be a big Hawes sell-off this week?

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bd
ID: 389151123
Wed, Dec 17, 2008, 07:07

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Rank	GurupieName	LSWP0	LSWP	LSWP5	WWR	FV	Cash	RV	FVC	Trades
1	qwert-215	2524.5	150.5	2524.5	14	62.86	4.40	58.46	0.29	4
2	twolves-128	2462	109.5	2462	108	59.29	3.01	56.28	-0.01	4
3	Coach Bird-983	2449	133.5	2449	113	59.44	1.38	58.06	0.38	5
4	dpr-315	2431	168.5	2431	71	60.79	4.15	56.64	0.34	4
5	Comic Book Guy-1245	2358.5	172.5	2358.5	3	59.00	0.73	58.27	0.23	3
6	Maineac-277	2335	120.5	2335	480	53.51	2.83	50.68	-0.12	4
7	DrD-966	2199.5	116.5	2199.5	836	54.18	4.56	49.62	0.06	4
8	bd-967	2169.5	167.5	2169.5	645	54.34	6.14	48.20	0.32	4
9	wolfer-1899	2129	97	2129	209	55.26	0.42	54.84	0.03	6

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bd
ID: 299112113
Wed, Dec 17, 2008, 15:15

Okafor to Duncan today for me. Granger will probably go after tonight's game and I am looking at Ming.

That would leave me with 2 trades. I think I'll hold Paul and want a trade in case Hawes needs to go.

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