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Subject: Weykool's GMD (TP4)


  Posted by: weykool - [2842717] Wed, Jan 14, 2009, 13:48

We say goodbye to Gary Dotson but welcome Philsphan to the team.
Something tells me this is the TP where we tighten the race for the #1 spot.

Lineup:
Senator Urine
Pica
Winston
Allhair Allstars
Heather
Philsphan
Soetal
Ender
Weykool
 
1Philsphan
      Sustainer
      ID: 301442416
      Wed, Jan 14, 2009, 16:26
Thanks for picking me up. Hopefully I can help.

I am very worried about Millsap getting an MRI today, which can't be good news.

I'd go Millsap-> Camby, but I'd have to dump Granger to do it, which I don't want to do. But I don't know of any better options in Millsap's price range. I can then get Granger back on 1-19 from Wade.
 
2Pica
      Sustainer
      ID: 161141312
      Wed, Jan 14, 2009, 18:17
Went Millsap > Bargani
 
3weykool
      ID: 2842717
      Wed, Jan 14, 2009, 18:25
Philsphan:
I like the move to Camby and will probably be making the same move.
Are you sure you want to move Granger on a day he plays?
What about Okur?
 
4Philsphan
      Sustainer
      ID: 301442416
      Wed, Jan 14, 2009, 19:25
I am $180K short of going to Okur, so that was out.

I went Millsap->Stuckey instead. I was nervous about Bargnani with Jermo maybe coming back in a couple of days, and I have been burned with Mboute and Dirk, and I didn't want to blow through my trades today just to get Camby now. And Stuckey seems holdable through the end of the month and has been very good to me this season.

The plan now is Wade->Camby on 1/19. That will give me the option to upgrade Thomas on 1/21.

In the end I really, really didn't want to part with Granger, and I really, really didn't want to use 2-3 trades today to reset everything.

If I had another $4 mil, everything would have been much easier today...
 
5allhair allstars
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      ID: 50902421
      Wed, Jan 14, 2009, 21:39
Welcome to the team, Philsphan, and for what it's worth, I'd be a lot happier with an extra 4 mil as well. In fact, I asked SU for exactly that amount a week or two ago, but I think he thought I was joking.... ;)
 
7Pica
      Sustainer
      ID: 161141312
      Thu, Jan 15, 2009, 09:17
great pickup in Collins captain, it'll be great to battle it out with you in the division we are in together.
 
8Pica
      Sustainer
      ID: 161141312
      Fri, Jan 16, 2009, 07:03
No Shaq, overtime, against a not really defensive minded team, I kind of expected more out of Amare.
 
10Senator Urine
      ID: 011402010
      Fri, Jan 16, 2009, 15:27
In typical SU style, I brought the worst weather NH / Maine has seen in 40 years so I'm back from my "vacation" early. I see that selling Stuckey last week was the worst idea of all time.

Haven't checked on all the news and performances yet, but I'm thinking of selling Tyrus for Foye tonight. Good or bad idea? I'm entirely out of the loop.

Big thanks to Blooki for Millsap --> Bargnani instead of Millsap --> Blake.
 
11Philsphan
      Sustainer
      ID: 301442416
      Fri, Jan 16, 2009, 16:41
I'd like to get Foye. Just not sure when the best time is. From a pure $$ standpoint, perhaps tonight is the night?

I'm wondering how much longer Duhon will last, and is getting Harris on anyone's radar? I'm not sure he is the must have that he was earlier.
 
12Senator Urine
      ID: 011402010
      Fri, Jan 16, 2009, 18:50
I'm trying to evaluate the Harris thing right now too. My problem is that I want him but I have no one to give up for him.

I've suddenly realized tonight is a huge decision night. I have four (really more but this is what I'm narrowing it down to for now) choices:

A) Tyrus to Foye - Foye seems like an excellent longterm hold. The only downside is that he ties up a decent amount of money.

B) Tyrus to Stuckey - Stuckey is great and I wish I hadn't sold him, but what's done is done. My concern is the high ownership, the lack of B2B's strengthening his holding potential, and of course is his back completely better? I love his production but can I realistically buy into him at this point when there are options like Foye with no ownership?

C) Tyrus to Millsap (if in) - Risky, but Millsap is Millsap. I'd force my way in regardless this week from Duhon or from Bargnani if Bargnani implodes.

D) Hold Tyrus, hope Baron is out longer, buy Mardy "Five Minutes" Collins later.

This is very difficult to plan because there are so many variables: Jermaine's health, Jermaine's role when he comes back, Millsap's health, Stuckey's back, Baron's health, etc. And then the secondary issues of players like Harris. I honestly have no idea what to do.
 
13Pica
      Sustainer
      ID: 161141312
      Fri, Jan 16, 2009, 19:01
I like Foye too and I see him as Stuckey's replacement sometime next week. I wouldn't buy back Stuckey now with his schedule wining down pretty soon. And personally I do not see Millsap as a must have anymore given his spotty schedule and risk of further injury. However if he proves he's completely healthy and productive as before I could easily (laterally) trade Okur to him, but that's not in the plans.

hmm I currently do not have Harris in the plans. There is just not enough guard slots for him given the studs and cheapies are very efficient for a mid price player to fit in.
 
14deejay
      ID: 250231516
      Fri, Jan 16, 2009, 19:04
Intruder

12

I honestly have no idea what to do

Welcome in my world Senator. I have the slightest idea what to do (with Tyrus) right now.
 
15Senator Urine
      ID: 011402010
      Fri, Jan 16, 2009, 19:07
Haha yeah, we're always making similar nearly-impossible decisions it seems. I was just telling Blooki, the three of us probably would have gambled on Mardy Collins already if not for that one year. Usually I have at least a 1% leaning towards an option but right now none whatsoever.
 
16deejay
      ID: 250231516
      Fri, Jan 16, 2009, 19:09
Yeah the Mardy part, found this rotation, but it requires me to buy Mardy tomorrow. I get the shivers when I think about it :)
 
17Senator Urine
      ID: 011402010
      Fri, Jan 16, 2009, 20:08
Options B and C scratched. I couldn't bring myself to do Stuckey --> Tyrus --> Stuckey, especially given the risks involved I already mentioned.

So it looks like it's between Tyrus to Foye and holding Tyrus and buying Mardy Collins (ensuring Baron coming back).

Right now I'm leaning towards Foye, the price swing could be pretty big. This is going to be one of those stupid, stupid trading nights.
 
18Senator Urine
      ID: 011402010
      Fri, Jan 16, 2009, 20:30
Pretty sure I'm going with Foye, I think that's where the money is this week and he's pretty much proven himself as a good hold. I'll probably get back into Millsap on Tuesday provided he's back and then reevaluate everything.
 
19Senator Urine
      ID: 011402010
      Sat, Jan 17, 2009, 07:57
Looks like Ridnour was the answer...
 
21allhair allstars
      Sustainer
      ID: 50902421
      Sat, Jan 17, 2009, 10:38
I was just noticing something... when we started the GMD this year I think Weykool was either at the bottom of near the bottom of our GMD team. He was ranked 786. Now he's at the top of our team and ranked 143. That's a pretty impressive run over a fairly short period of time. Nicely done!

In the meantime, despite Weykool's efforts, we're still sitting dead last in the GMD rankings. Not sure how we've done it, but we've finished last every TP. We've got to break out of this funk!
 
22allhair allstars
      Sustainer
      ID: 50902421
      Sat, Jan 17, 2009, 11:11
So many nice schedules to take advantage of coming up... Right now my only moves are Bosh to Camby today, but I'm trying to figure out how I might get into Wade or Kobe further down the road but nothing seems to be apparent right now. I have both Shaq and Jefferies, and it looks like I'm going to have to eat one more DNP if I hold him (which I'm currently planning), and Jefferies appears to have gotten a little more in the groove in NY (how in the WORLD could you go two straight games with zero points in THAT offense???) so I'm gonna stick with him as well. Plus I don't want to spend any money upgrading him... 20+ a night from him is fine. Just musing...
 
23Philsphan
      Sustainer
      ID: 301442416
      Sat, Jan 17, 2009, 12:50
Anyone thinking of trading out of Granger for the 2-in-6? I was thinking of getting Garnett for 4 games and back to Granger, or getting Camby now from Granger and then Granger back from Wade on Monday. Or I can just do nothing and go Wade=>Camby on Monday as originally planned.

Granger should make back what he loses over these next 2 days, but I think this could be an opportunity to pick up 60-80 pts and maybe a couple $K or so. Is this valid enough reason to use a trade?

I have no plans to move Jeffries either, especially after last night's game. I hope he keeps it up.
 
24allhair allstars
      Sustainer
      ID: 50902421
      Sat, Jan 17, 2009, 13:53
I don't have my schedule in front of me but I know that Camby's ideal buy in is today (unless you're only in is Wade). I've been pretty conservative with my trades lately and had planned on holding Granger because I'd def want him back again. Do you have plans to get Wade back again? If you're ok with passing on Wade, your best bet (of the thoughts you've posted) would probably to get Camby from Granger now. From that point you have to figure if you want to go Wade back to Granger or not. I'm not a fan of your KG option, FWIW.
 
25allhair allstars
      Sustainer
      ID: 50902421
      Sat, Jan 17, 2009, 15:58
Now that I think about it, I'll hold Bosh and do a triangle with Granger to Camby, Bosh to Granger. Still not sure about Wade at this point, but I'll think of something.
 
26qwert
      Sustainer
      ID: 2910242819
      Sat, Jan 17, 2009, 16:09
why not wade to granger and bosh to someone else?
 
27allhair allstars
      Sustainer
      ID: 50902421
      Sat, Jan 17, 2009, 16:42
qwert, if you're talking to me, I don't currently own Wade... I was referring to picking him up... and not being sure how to swing it.
 
28qwert
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      ID: 2910242819
      Sat, Jan 17, 2009, 16:53
I see...sorry I misunderstood
 
29allhair allstars
      Sustainer
      ID: 50902421
      Sat, Jan 17, 2009, 17:12
np... I appreciate the help. :)
 
30Philsphan
      Sustainer
      ID: 301442416
      Sat, Jan 17, 2009, 17:26
AA

If money swings right I can get Wade back on the 23rd or 24th, but it could be tight, and it would probably involve upgrading either Duhon or Lee and downgrading Stuckey (who is scheduled to leave soon anyway) or Thomas. But I have some time to look at that.

I went with the Camby option today from Granger and I'll get Granger back from Wade on Monday.

Anyone have $4 mill lyin' around...?

Anyone?
 
31weykool
      Leader
      ID: 41750315
      Sat, Jan 17, 2009, 18:31
Thanks to the help of my good buddy DJ my only move today was Westbrook to Camby.
 
32Pica
      Sustainer
      ID: 161141312
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 03:07
Looking at the ownership numbers I'm surprised to see only 100 or so teams dropped Granger given he's the most popular player and entering a 2 in 6.
 
33Pica
      Sustainer
      ID: 161141312
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 06:02
I'm considering rolling the dice and go Duhon to Shaq if there's some news that Duhon may miss some time and Shaq plans to play both games of the coming back to back. I don't see him going to miss tomorrow's big game against Boston so I'll probably get him if I see him in today's yahoo lineup. Anyone feel this is a worthwhile gamble? Or could play it safe and get Foye instead who I was planning to get from Stuckey sometime next trade week anyways.
 
34Senator Urine
      ID: 011402010
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 08:42
There's still not much information out there so I'm not sure what to do. These possible injuries are timed really badly with the way schedules set up.

Duhon was probably going to be my return to Millsap. If I make the move now, I make money. If I make the move tomorrow after seeing he's out, I lose tonight's swing. If I make the move tomorrow after seeing he's playing (I'll still be at work...), I get some points (how much will he play?) and realistically absorb two swings. I'm leaning towards moving him to Millsap, but that's not without risks considering Millsap was not good last night. Hopefully more news comes out as the day goes on.

Camby I'm more willing to be patient with because if he's going to play, he's essential.

I really wish there were more news on Baron Davis because it feels really stupid not having Collins right now. I've had the opportunity to buy him probably three times now, and each time I've held off thinking Baron's coming back next week. Then the players I do end up getting are horrible or get injured and thus end up as shorter holds than having Collins for a week. Ugh.

So basically, I'm just hoping news comes out as the day goes on. There's no one for 4.89 or less that I want on the teams playing today. I have a feeling I'll be moving Duhon for either Millsap or Collins before I go to bed. I wonder if Nate could be worth a look if Duhon is ruled out for awhile...

Pica, that's a tough choice. Foye is definitely the safer pick but Shaq has the risk-reward thing going. He has about 400 owners so there's still room to improve but also a chance people could get tired of holding him after the 4 in 5, especially if he misses a game. I've ignored him so far, and probably wrongly so.
 
35weykool
      Leader
      ID: 41750315
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 08:58
Anyone looking at Bargnani?
 
37Pica
      Sustainer
      ID: 161141312
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 09:06
SU: check out Dean Martin's link in action thread to see Baron's reportedly coming back sometime this week.
 
38Senator Urine
      ID: 011402010
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 12:05
Are you guys leaning towards holding Camby?
 
39Senator Urine
      ID: 011402010
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 13:39
I held Camby and with the latest news, looks like I'll be holding Duhon as well.
 
40allhair allstars
      Sustainer
      ID: 50902421
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 14:07
Holding both.

Money can't buy you love.
 
41allhair allstars
      Sustainer
      ID: 50902421
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 14:17
Although I'd be the first to admit that it's probably exactly that attitude that keeps me from winning any. ;)
 
42Pica
      Sustainer
      ID: 161141312
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 18:15
leaning towards holding Duhon as well. For those has Camby, he's now listed as doubtful on TSN instead of questionable previously FWIW
 
43Senator Urine
      ID: 011402010
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 19:16
Where does TSN get their information from?

Since D'Antoni said he's expecting him to play, I have to hold Duhon, right? I can't just throw away points for half of a swing (I'm assuming Millsap won't gain anything today).
 
44allhair allstars
      Sustainer
      ID: 50902421
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 21:41
In case you're unaware... the LA Times has this to say about Camby: "Though the Clippers are calling Marcus Camby's sprained left ankle a day-to-day situation, he could be out for an extended period, according to those familiar with this type of injury -- potentially another severe blow for the struggling team, as he has been one of its few bright spots."

So it looks like Camby's more of a sell now than a hold. To be honest, I'm seriously considering just reversing my Granger to Camby trade (should have just stuck with the Bosh to Camby plan) and just pick up Granger again. That would allow me to go Bosh to Wade on 1/24.

Is that a really bad idea? I don't gain anything immediately, but I get Granger back (was going to need him anyway), and this makes my transition to Wade a lot easier to stomach.
 
45Senator Urine
      ID: 011402010
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 21:47
That doesn't sound like a bad plan. Just one of those things you have to chalk up to bad luck.

I'm thinking Jefferson is my best option tonight. I can afford Kobe if I sell Duhon and commit myself to a cheaper forward or center (Blatche, Skinner, etc.) but that feels like I'd be asking for it since everything is so up in the air. What do you guys think? Is Camby to Jefferson the move now?
 
46allhair allstars
      Sustainer
      ID: 50902421
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 21:59
He's probably up there on people's lists. He's been a little inconsistent lately but with his schedule he'd be a safe buy. I'm not certain that he's screaming "buy", but maybe others are looking at it differently.
 
47Senator Urine
      ID: 011402010
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 22:05
Yeah I don't think he's screaming buy, but I don't really see any other better options tonight or tomorrow. I don't feel comfortable selling Duhon right now and committing to skipping Brook Lopez for Blatche / Skinner. Jefferson I figure can make some money in the next week and then I can get out at various points. Camby is a sell though at this point, right?
 
48Senator Urine
      ID: 011402010
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 22:28
Stayed up way too late.

Camby --> Jefferson
Holding Duhon

So basically, the exact opposite of my plan when I woke up today.
 
49allhair allstars
      Sustainer
      ID: 50902421
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 22:33
Yeah, I think Camby's a sell. I did the Camby to Granger move which feels completely stupid... or maybe I'm the one the feels stupid... and I'll try to figure out what to do about Du tomorrow. Hopefully the news will be good. I agree with those that think he'll do whatever he can to play tomorrow.
 
50Philsphan
      Sustainer
      ID: 301442416
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 22:52
I've made and undone this trade half a dozen times now. Went Camby=>Granger. If Duhon becomes a sell at least I still have Wade.

So tomorrow is the crapshoot with my last trade. Do I trade out of Wade for a short term play (ALJeff/Kobe/Pau) or just hold him? Seems with the Camby fiasco Wade my not take as big a hit.
 
51qwert
      Sustainer
      ID: 2910242819
      Sun, Jan 18, 2009, 22:56
*intruder

I think Camby's sells will happen mostly today and Wade's tomorrow so I don't think it will be all that diluted...there will just be fewer trades happening

That said, I will likely be holding with the injuries this weekend
 
52Blooki
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      ID: 449292712
      Mon, Jan 19, 2009, 02:20
Re: 51

It might not be diluted due to trade volume, but it may be diluted due to managers not having enough trades after using unplanned ones this week on on Millsap, Camby and/or Duhon.

That being said. Holding Wade has been my plan all along. I could definitely see the argument for triangling him with a number of players (Lebron, Camby, Granger, Stoudemire, etc.), but I never found a plan that I liked.
 
53Pica
      Sustainer
      ID: 161141312
      Mon, Jan 19, 2009, 06:43
I set my alarm to wake up at 1:30am Hong Kong time to check if Shaq was in the starting lineup. Both Yahoo and ESPN starting lineups were both unavailable before freeze so I passed on Shaq and bought Foye instead. I fully expect Duhon to play today but I doubt he'll be effective or could re-injure himself at some point down the stretch given his heavy workload.

I'll get Granger for the very first time this season from Wade today, so by all means expect him to fall from stud to dud.
 
55Philsphan
      Sustainer
      ID: 301442416
      Mon, Jan 19, 2009, 11:54
I think I'm going to hold Wade. I just don't see the point. With all the chatter suggesting he is going to be a big by later in the week makes me nervous to let him go.

If anyone can convince me that 2 extra Jeff or Kobe games is worth 2 trades, then I'll pull the trigger. Otherwise I'm standing pat today.
 
56allhair allstars
      Sustainer
      ID: 50902421
      Mon, Jan 19, 2009, 18:34
SU, Jefferson doing a little more screaming now, eh? Nice call.
 
57Senator Urine
      ID: 011402010
      Mon, Jan 19, 2009, 18:44
I'm trying to plan some rotations as best I can with the lack of concrete news on Camby and Baron anywhere.

- I'm 99% sure I'm moving Duhon for Millsap tomorrow.

- I have to figure out what to do with Bargnani. I could hop on the next comparably priced train that I feel better about (Lopez), hold him and hope he doesn't suck and keeps gaining (already has 560 owners and hasn't been dazzling anyone lately), or look into cheap options like Skinner / Mardy.

- I think I want Lopez, but at current prices I'm somewhere around 500k short for this rotation I want to do. Skinner wasn't great today, but if Camby's out a long time he can be valuable (not to mention Randolph and Kaman...). And Mardy is making me pay for not taking him originally, but the threat of Baron coming back is greater each day.

- My plan all along was to hold Wade. I think I may have found a rotation that could make sense (not sure yet) that involves trading him for Kobe, but this effectively locks up all my guard slots and would also require skipping Lopez for Skinner.

- I don't think I'm going to be able to fit the so called big five. It will get even more complicated when Camby gets back in the mix. I have no idea how to plan this since we have no information on how long he's out, and if he's playing he's a must have.

Anyone have any thoughts in general? I'm pretty sure I'll be holding Wade. Fortunately I don't have to make any other decisions tonight, but if I do commit to selling Wade then I essentially also commit to skipping Lopez and selling Bargnani for Skinner/some other cheap F or C.
 
58Senator Urine
      ID: 011402010
      Mon, Jan 19, 2009, 18:46
Yeah Jefferson made me happy today, I was terrified to look at that box score. I can almost guarantee you he's putting up 14 tomorrow.
 
59Senator Urine
      ID: 011402010
      Mon, Jan 19, 2009, 19:32
I'm 99% sure now I'm holding Wade. I found a hold-Wade plan where I can choose from any of Lopez / Blatche / Skinner / Collins tomorrow that should generate plenty of points, money, and flexibility. All sell-Wade plans create some locked-in rotations and make me skip Dwight which I don't think is good.

I think it may be too tough to have all of the Big 5 in the near future (Lebron, Wade, Paul, Howard, Kobe). Four shouldn't be a problem, though passing on Kobe makes me nervous. This doesn't even factor in Camby though.
 
60pica
      ID: 21128919
      Mon, Jan 19, 2009, 20:09
no love for the kings?
 
61allhair allstars
      Sustainer
      ID: 50902421
      Mon, Jan 19, 2009, 20:25
Big 5?

SU, I've figured out what your problem is... it isn't that you have too much time... it's that you have too much money! ;)
 
62Senator Urine
      ID: 011402010
      Mon, Jan 19, 2009, 20:32
Haha, with the way Mardy Collins is playing that is 100% a true statement.

The Kings are intriguing but they make me nervous also. The schedule is dense but it doesn't fit well into some other key players.
Miller has obviously been fantastic lately, but I fear him for two reasons - the trade rumors, and the fact that took a giant dump for me earlier in the year while tying up money I needed to go elsewhere.
Salmons has also been amazing, but with him that means if I pick him up he won't crack 15 for three games.
Martin has been playing below his capability, but very consistently so. All of his averages are very close together.

How would you guys rank the options of Lopez, Collins, Blatche, and Skinner?
 
63weykool
      Leader
      ID: 41750315
      Mon, Jan 19, 2009, 20:58
Blatche
Lopez
Mardy
Skinner
 
64Senator Urine
      ID: 011402010
      Mon, Jan 19, 2009, 21:09
Yeah now that there's news on Camby being back in 7-10 days Skinner isn't too realistic.

Blatche was great again today but it was the Warriors. His ownership is the biggest strike against him, followed by the coaching staff inexplicably not playing him for the full game.

Lopez has really been good, and I like the way his averages are ascending (27, 31, 33, 39). I don't really know anything about him though, are these minutes and good play going to continue?

Mardy is the bane of my existence. I get him, Baron comes back. I don't get him, Baron puts on 50 lbs and shatters his knee while watching television. It's an impossible to read situation at this point and I wish I had gambled on him earlier instead of the likes of Tyrus, Bargnani, etc.
 
65money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Mon, Jan 19, 2009, 21:10
ROTFLMAO - Baron puts on 50 lbs and shatters his knee while watching television
 
67Pica
      ID: 11114995
      Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 08:10
-1 from Amare, classic case of differentiation backfire
 
68Pica
      ID: 11114995
      Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 08:20
considering Stuckey > Salmons... any thoughts? Stuckey lost 40k last night kind of caught me off guard and could be facing more losses the rest of the week and being today being Tuesday should be even more exaggerated.
 
69Pica
      ID: 11114995
      Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 08:37
SU: I'd put Lopez over Blatche on the ownership issue, and it seems Lopez's minutes are very safe, evidenced by the 41 minutes in the latest blow out.
 
70weykool
      Leader
      ID: 41750315
      Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 08:44
Pica:

I think we are past money being more important than the points.
Not saying that we totally ignore the money but if the points make sense the money will follow.
 
71Senator Urine
      ID: 011402010
      Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 16:08
Yeah I'm leaning towards Lopez at the moment. I need to get out of these sudden forced-sell situations.

After moving Duhon and Bargnani today, I hopefully won't have any moves until Sunday. That's going to be the next big decision day probably. I have Camby-in and Camby-out plans, so I should be ok (provided Camby comes back that day).
 
72allhair allstars
      Sustainer
      ID: 50902421
      Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 17:30
Ditto 69.
 
73Senator Urine
      ID: 011402010
      Tue, Jan 20, 2009, 18:02
New lesson: When selling Marcus Camby for Al Jefferson, make sure you update the price difference in your spreadsheet.

Fortunately it looks like I'll still be able to complete my basic rotations, but for one slot that 600k or so that I thought I'd have may hurt a bit. I could take Blatche over Lopez, but I don't want to deal with that. I think I'm locking in Lopez.

Am I crazy for skipping Mardy Collins? Should I be skipping Lopez for him (and thereby saying I'm also skipping Kobe 100%)?
 
78allhair allstars
      Sustainer
      ID: 50902421
      Sat, Jan 24, 2009, 09:56
No chatter: Day 4.
 
79weykool
      Leader
      ID: 41750315
      Sat, Jan 24, 2009, 10:43
I moved Bosh to Millsap and Mardy to Wade.
 
80Pica
      Sustainer
      ID: 161141312
      Sat, Jan 24, 2009, 10:59
Amare to Wade as planned.
 
81allhair allstars
      Sustainer
      ID: 50902421
      Sat, Jan 24, 2009, 11:25
Bosh to Wade for me... Considering Ridnour to Gordon. Would like to get Iggy but I think Murphy's more in my price range, likely from Duhon via Granger. Poor planning money-wise, but solid point swaps...

 
83allhair allstars
      Sustainer
      ID: 50902421
      Sun, Jan 25, 2009, 10:41
Philsphan, I see that you still have Jeffries... Do you have any particular plans for him?

I held him for a while for the position eligibility and his low price, but in the end couldn't deal with is inconsistency... Jumped out of him to Jordan, but when Jordan goes south, I'm seriously considering moving to a more consistent, non-flash in the pan, cheapie like Telfair. He probably won't get out of gravity but he's at 500K and averaging 24-25 TNSP a game. If you're tied into a cheapie slot and need some reasonable production, he (or others like him) might be worth a shot... I admit that if I'm cash strapped when Jordan's boat sinks I'd probably go that route.
 
84allhair allstars
      Sustainer
      ID: 50902421
      Sun, Jan 25, 2009, 10:45
Too many other guards out there to realistically fit Telfair, I'd think, but you get the idea...
 
85Pica
      Sustainer
      ID: 161141312
      Sun, Jan 25, 2009, 10:46
McGuire of Washington also would fit the bill if need some flex at that 500k position.
 
86Philsphan
      ID: 160552510
      Sun, Jan 25, 2009, 11:55
My plan is to go to Gordon today from Jeffries, and slide Granger back to F. I officially got tired of Jeffries last night.

I'm not as sure that Jordan's time is up all that soon. I think (hope) Camby is going to be out a while longer. If not, I'll pobably find another cheapie for that slot, and then move to Camby from Lee.


For me, the longer Camby is out the easier this stays...
 
87allhair allstars
      Sustainer
      ID: 50902421
      Sun, Jan 25, 2009, 12:57
Yep. Jordan's future is completely tied to Camby's return, but I'm still unsure when that will be and there have been indications that he might be back sooner than expected (hard as that may be to believe, given the subject matter).

My own moves today were Duhon and Ridnour to Gordon and Murphy.

I haven't been following the McGuire situation but Rotoworld has this on him...

DeShawn Stevenson (sore lower back) was in uniform on Saturday but received a DNP-Coach's Decision.
Stevenson has missed 12 consecutive games and coach Ed Tapscott wants him to go through a few practices before returning to action. He is shooting 32% from the field this season, but his playing time could spoil the production of Dominic McGuire and Nick Young.
 
88allhair allstars
      Sustainer
      ID: 50902421
      Sun, Jan 25, 2009, 15:12
Maybe this news will help stop the bleeding...


Terry Porter says Shaquille O'Neal, who has rarely played in both games of back-to-back sets this season, will likely play on Sunday (Hawks) and Monday (Wizards) as the Suns try to get their season turned around.
"I doubt he'll get one of these off," Porter said. "He's had enough rest. We need everybody collectively to get us through this." If the Suns lose to the Hawks today they'll be 1-5 over their last six games. Porter is probably fighting for his job, although our guess is Amare Stoudemire wouldn't mind if Porter was replaced in the near future. If Shaq is somehow still available in your league, this news makes him worth owning in nearly all formats.
 
89Senator Urine
      ID: 011502111
      Sun, Jan 25, 2009, 15:31
Hey guys, I've been out of town for a few days, I just got home and am trying to catch up now. Blooki filled me in on some news over the past few days.

- Originally I had been planning on moving Lebron and Lee for Kobe and a mystery 4 million or so F or C. Then after thinking about it I really didn't want to trade Lee, especially since I wouldn't have a way back in. My alternative plan into Kobe would be selling Lopez for Jordan, but I see that's no longer an option. And now with Ellis back and with Camby possibly back tonight, it looks like I'm going to skip Kobe for now.

- If Camby is in the lineup today, I'm thinking about moving Lebron and Lopez for Camby and Ellis. I'd get Lebron back by his next game. I'm almost completely out of the loop, but on paper this sounds good. If Camby isn't in the lineup, then I'm probably not making any moves.
 
91Senator Urine
      ID: 011402010
      Mon, Jan 26, 2009, 15:58
Still trying to get caught up on everything. Here are my thoughts at the moment:

Granger
Foye*
Wade
Paul
Lebron
Jefferson*
Millsap
Murphy
Lee
Lopez*

Pretty sure I'm holding Lee. The players with stars next to their names are ones that will be sold sometime in the next few days or couple weeks depending on what happens. I think everyone else is either a longterm hold or essentially a longterm hold (small in and out triangle rotations).

Due to Camby's health, I don't really have a set plan right now. I see Ellis did not do well last night. I wonder if I should still plan for him. The only ways I can get him are if Camby comes back (Jefferson to Camby at some point, freeing up the money for Lopez to Ellis) or by downgrading Lopez (don't like any F or C options right now) and moving Foye (not necessary) to Ellis. So for now, it's a wait and see thing I guess.

I think I'll be passing on Kobe unfortunately. Paul and Wade lock up two guard spots, and then there are a lot of good cheaper options coming up (Foye if I hold him, Ellis, Sessions, Stuckey, etc.)
 
92allhair allstars
      Sustainer
      ID: 50902421
      Mon, Jan 26, 2009, 17:19
FWIW, Lee's a hold on my team.
 
93weykool
      Leader
      ID: 41750315
      Mon, Jan 26, 2009, 19:42
Duhon and Lee and only 1 trade.
Going to evaluate tomorrow.
Might just hold them both.
 
95Pica
      ID: 1307273
      Tue, Jan 27, 2009, 08:34
we all have Lee, to hold or to bail?
 
96Winston
      Donor
      ID: 119543011
      Tue, Jan 27, 2009, 09:08
Hold Lee & Duhon, I would like to save the trade and cash to deal with Jordan later.
 
97Pica
      Sustainer
      ID: 161141312
      Tue, Jan 27, 2009, 10:26
I'm pretty sure on moving him to Murphy.
 
98allhair allstars
      Sustainer
      ID: 50902421
      Tue, Jan 27, 2009, 13:33
Already have Murphy. Will lose money but the current plan is to hold Lee.
 
99Senator Urine
      ID: 011402010
      Tue, Jan 27, 2009, 15:17
I believe I'm holding Lee. I can't find any way to sell him that would be anything other than horrible.
 
100Philsphan
      Sustainer
      ID: 301442416
      Tue, Jan 27, 2009, 17:10
Was going to go Lee=>Murphy, but the Blatche news changes all that.

I only have $4 mil available, so should I go to Bargnani or McGee? I'm leaning toward Bargnani, even though Jermo is coming back. And it seems he can be a slightly longer hold.
 
101Senator Urine
      ID: 011402010
      Tue, Jan 27, 2009, 17:54
I'm not overly worried about the Lee losses, I think he's established himself as one of those value players that we're going to want back immediately. Kind of like how some people sold Granger a little while ago and then a couple days later he was a gainer again.

At the moment I'm kind of regretting selling Bargnani for Lopez. That's a tough call though, Bargnani I guess is the safer pick (if he can ever be called safe).
 
102Ender
      ID: 551101116
      Tue, Jan 27, 2009, 19:03
I'm holding steady for now. My wwr is holding and I'm banking trades. I'll look to shake things up pretty soon.
 
103allhair allstars
      Sustainer
      ID: 50902421
      Wed, Jan 28, 2009, 07:34
If you are unsure what the column header means, hover over it with your mouse.
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GURUPATRON BONUS MATERIAL

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Rank

GurupieName

LSWP0

LSWP

LSWP5

WWR

FV

Cash

RV

FVC

Trades

1 weykool-1750 10661 168 2945.5 121 68.99 0.34 68.65 0.40 4
2 Senator Urine-275 10643 144.5 2923.5 5 75.68 0.27 75.41 0.55 9
3 Winston-301 10498 144.5 2935.5 47 66.87 5.75 61.12 0.53 6
4 Pica-125 10419.5 230.5 2862.5 117 69.71 1.78 67.93 0.55 4
5 allhair allstars-1708 10397 144.5 2952 77 67.76 0.95 66.81 0.47 7
6 Heather-1769 10039 222.5 2783 220 61.95 0.92 61.03 0.23 4
7 Philsphan-1026 9866.5 121 2732 434 63.53 0.72 62.81 0.48 4
8 Ender-1720 9836.5 122 2646 248 60.55 0.72 59.83 -0.14 10
9 Soetal1-121 9436 98.5 2593 604 60.66 6.64 54.02 0.16 2



Head To Head

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COMMON TO BOTH TEAMS
 
104allhair allstars
      Sustainer
      ID: 50902421
      Wed, Jan 28, 2009, 07:38
Something happened to the franchise value change on the table - the FVC totals showing appear to combine the last two days worth of changes - but the FV and all the rest of the data is correct. Not sure what happened, but no harm, no foul.
 
105weykool
      ID: 2842717
      Wed, Jan 28, 2009, 12:15
AA:

Thanks for doing this for our team.