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| Posted by: deejay
- Sustainer [501182710] Wed, Aug 12, 2009, 11:25
I shot an email to TSN and got this reply...
Yes, it should launch some time after the hockey games.
Sincerely,
Eric
SN Member Services
Basic(Salary Cap) will be back too(posted on TSN forum)
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| | | 1 | Pica
Sustainer
ID: 161141312
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 07:37
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YYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS
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| | | 2 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Fri, Oct 02, 2009, 13:28
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from tsn board:
Please note that the roster freeze occurs at 11pm each night, and players are scheduled to be unlocked at 12 midnight, that night.
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| | | 3 | deejay
ID: 4499716
Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 12:42
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The game seems up.
And it looks different...
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| | | 4 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 14:11
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The interface is the same as that for football this year - which is too bad.
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| | | 5 | deraynman
ID: 4291814
Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 15:01
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Rookies and other new players will be added October 21, 6 days before the first game.
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| | | 6 | Skip to My Lou
ID: 48943810
Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 16:47
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Are they allowing trades to be purchased in the Ultimate Game? (I sure hope not.) If so, is there a way of seeing how many trades a team has purchased for purposes of ridiculing them?
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| | | 8 | Skip to My Lou
ID: 48943810
Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 17:00
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Thanks, Guru. After I purchased my ultimate team, it prompted me with a trade buying screen. Scared me.
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| | | 9 | Senator Urine
ID: 348262116
Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 17:13
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Crap, it's back. I'm actually thinking of sitting this out. Realistically, I'll have three teams by the end of the weekend.
What are the major differences with the interface? I overheard one of my coworkers who plays TSN football complaining about a ton of glitches.
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| | | 10 | Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 17:18
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What are the major differences with the interface? I overheard one of my coworkers who plays TSN football complaining about a ton of glitches.
I wouldn't call that a major difference from past years. :)
I have a few billion tokens so I'll probably buy a 3 pack again this year. Can't wait to be in 3 divisions that all contain Blooki and Maxiroxx.
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| | | 11 | Senator Urine
ID: 348262116
Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 17:30
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If I play I'm really going to attempt to be more casual about it. I know I say that every year, but this time I mean it?
How are prices looking so far? Similar to last year?
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| | | 12 | deejay
ID: 4499716
Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 17:32
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I have only looked at Basic so far, but I don't like what I see.
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| | | 13 | dpr
ID: 552411820
Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 20:53
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Some issues with the interface:
First off on the players page its gives cumulative stats: I ahve no idea what it means that Chris Paul had 860 assists alst year. These should be averages. Also the TSNP column is blank and they have had issues with that in fooball this year. There is no TSNP/game column or a way to short by period. Pretty much worthless.
Also the schedule analyzer is way to short of a time frame currently.
The player pages are worthless(altho a nice popout tab so doesnt bring you to a new page). They dont incule past games scores or stats. just the final team scores. Doesnt include YTD, 30 day averages etc either.
I am sure there are others.
However in terms of buying and selling players and viewing price movers the interface is sound. if you rely on this site to view your stats and then just go there for to make moves it is fine. If you are like me and do most your research on their site, then you may want to learn this site.
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| | | 14 | dpr
ID: 552411820
Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 20:56
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Prices seem similar to last year. i was surprised there wasnt a bigger gap between the big 4 and the rest of the guys. james 12.20, Howard 10.8 other two in between. Kobe and amare are also over 10. West is the 20th most expensive at 8.6
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| | | 15 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Fri, Oct 09, 2009, 01:09
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Season is still weeks away and already the TSN laments have begun....lol!!
Apparently, TSN hoops is the game we love to hate. Fortunately for TSN, as dpr notes, Rotoguru.com greatly enhances Ultimate (and Basic) Hoops' playability. I'm still not sure why they don't just put Guru on the payroll and have him fix their whole operation. Oh wait. That's right. Because they really do a fine job with fantasy as they've proven year after year.
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| | | 16 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Fri, Oct 09, 2009, 09:13
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dpr:
I informed about the Schedule Analyzer...
Dear Member,
I'm sorry but this is all we have right now. We can look into extending
it, but it won't be right away.
Thanks,
SN Member Services
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| | | 17 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Oct 09, 2009, 09:57
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The circle of life...
When I started producing stats for the TSN games 12 years ago, their interface was OK for trading, but very limited in ability to provide anything for analysis. If I wanted to do any sort of statistical analysis, I had to build it myself.
Over the ensuing years, TSN gradually added more and more analytical support - much of it in response to what I had been doing. I began to wonder if it was worthwhile to continue to produce my stats reports, as they had become largely duplicative. But I kept on plugging away, because I was used to my formats, and knew that some others were as well.
Suddenly, TSN has reverted back to the olden days of producing a functional trading interface, with only very limited statistical support. Eventually, I'm sure they'll be showing TSNP in some sortable format - although probably for the full year only. RotoHog's own games have been notably poor in the statistical data provided, and it appears that the TSN games will once again provide only the bare minimum as well.
Guess I'd better stay in business.
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| | | 18 | Jubo
ID: 40913911
Fri, Oct 09, 2009, 12:13
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I was just wondering if anyone notices any cheap steals this year already. Last year Spencer Hawes was the most obvious...
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| | | 19 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Oct 09, 2009, 12:17
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I have sortable stats and player pages now loaded with 2009-10 prices, positions, and schedules.
Sortable stats include preseason games. If you want to use last year's regular season stats, you have that as an option.
Projection capabilities are for the regular season schedule only.
Please take a test drive and let me know if you see any apparent glitches.
Sortable stats
The Assimilator is not yet updated. I'll work on that next.
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| | | 20 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Oct 09, 2009, 14:46
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Preliminary version of the Assimilator is now up as well.
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| | | 21 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Fri, Oct 09, 2009, 15:43
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got another mail from TSN:
Thank you for your email. We will look into upgrading the schedule analyzer feature.
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| | | 22 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Oct 09, 2009, 16:15
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FWIW, the schedule analyzer at the TSN site is a direct clone of this 4-week NBA Schedule generator.
TSN used to publicly acknowledge that they based their version off of mine, but that seems to have been omitted now. In any event, their version is more limited in length, and start date. Other than that, all they did was flip the rows and columns.
If you ever found it useful, then you should find my version to be more useful.
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| | | 23 | Great One
ID: 4778411
Fri, Oct 09, 2009, 16:18
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I used to stare at that thing for hours on end... I'm thinking I might field an Ultimate Hoops team this year just because of the nostalgia!
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| | | 24 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Fri, Oct 09, 2009, 16:49
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Thanks Guru.
I use most of your tools, the only thing that I use at TSN is that Analyzer, it might sound stupid but their clone( I am aware they cloned it from yours),the teams/dates are switched, and with their old one, I could just fit all the info on one page without having to scroll to see lets say Washington,as I said it may sound stupid, but I've grown used to that.
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| | | 25 | dpr
ID: 552411820
Fri, Oct 09, 2009, 18:49
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yea being able to see it all on one page was very helpful.
On that note: Last year I know someone had a printable version (with all teams fitting on one page) of the entire season that they shared. If any one has one for this year that would be great.
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| | | 26 | dpr
ID: 552411820
Fri, Oct 09, 2009, 20:39
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the game rules state we dont get our first set of trades until 11/3. In past years we have efectively started with 8 right? getting them 10/28?
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| | | 27 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Sat, Oct 10, 2009, 05:04
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I don't think so dpr. Not 100% sure though.
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| | | 28 | TwinPower
ID: 11922105
Sat, Oct 10, 2009, 06:27
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Hi guys, i have got a question to those, who have already created a league. There is an option "Early Bird Special Salary Cap Ultimate Basketball 15 Team League $99.99".
Is this to manage your own 15 teams or is there an ability for other managers to use any of this team credits?
Thanks, TwinPower
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| | | 29 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Oct 10, 2009, 11:32
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I have the color-coded schedule grid in a spreadsheet, oriented in both directions (one sheet vertical, one sheet horizontal). You can probably manipulate one of those sheets to fit a page as desired.
http://rotoguru2.com/hoop/NBA-2009-10.xls
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| | | 30 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Sat, Oct 10, 2009, 13:37
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Thanks Guru.
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| | | 31 | Senator Urine
ID: 67151612
Sat, Oct 10, 2009, 16:21
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I kind of want to buy two rosters worth of forwards.
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| | | 32 | Pica
Sustainer
ID: 161141312
Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 07:33
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The new interface looks awful. I want the old one back.
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| | | 33 | MarsVolta34
ID: 16991113
Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 14:09
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Quick question, does anyone know if it's possible to get an ultimate team with tokens? I've looked around the site and can't seem to find evidence to the contrary. thnx
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| | | 34 | Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 14:45
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they keep the token redemption area hidden very well. I bookmarked it 2 years ago to avoid that problem
Token Redemption (need to be logged in)
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| | | 35 | Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 14:48
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I see TSN has butchered it. My tokens are no where to be found and I have probably 20k. Can't wait to figure out where they went.
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| | | 36 | MarsVolta34
ID: 16991113
Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 15:06
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Lol good luck. I checked that page, and it will only allow me to buy trades and some old baseball packages. I have emailed them to see what the story is.
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| | | 37 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 15:40
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Tokens were all converted to "credits". If you buy a team and you would have had ample tokens to fund it, you should see a cash credit applied to produce a net cost of zero.
Having said that, I have no idea how you can check on the amount of the credit balance in your account.
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| | | 38 | Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Sun, Oct 11, 2009, 15:54
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Yeah, I just came to that conclusion too. It would be nice if they told you how many credits you had so you could keep track of them.
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| | | 39 | Ole
ID: 35954125
Mon, Oct 12, 2009, 07:00
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Hoops is back, oh yes. A few comments:
- I never used any of of the TSN tools. I always used (and will use) Rotoguru's.
- I already love and hate the new layout.
- I already know that I will be tradeless in week 2.
- I am happy to see so many old faces around here (old as in "having played for almost a decade now).
- As always, my thanks to Deejay for the invitation to the Ultimate Boards League.
...and finally, yes, the trade buying scared me too at first. Thank God it's disabled for the league we play in.
Good luck all.
Dallas will win this year. Hopefully.
Ole
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| | | 40 | Headless T Gunners
ID: 09261319
Tue, Oct 13, 2009, 20:26
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Sorry
I don't think I see how credits can be used.
They continue to say that credits will be switched after baseball and golf seasons but NBA gets underway before that.
Seems their big chance to grab cash from those owning credits.
Am I wrong here?
Has anyone cashed in credits for Ultimate Hoops yet?
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| | | 41 | dpr
ID: 552411820
Tue, Oct 13, 2009, 20:55
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Just go to buy your teams. it will automatically use them.
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| | | 42 | hills
ID: 27814113
Tue, Oct 13, 2009, 21:00
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#40 Yes--I have used some of my "site credits" to purchase Ult Hoops with no problems
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| | | 43 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 14, 2009, 08:03
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Ditto - my credits were automatically applied.
I just don't know how may credits I now have leftover.
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| | | 44 | Headless T Gunners
ID: 181117294
Wed, Oct 14, 2009, 08:43
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Sorry
Al I get is a credit card info demand
my unused tokens have not been changed to site credit
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| | | 45 | chinese noodles
ID: 5095149
Wed, Oct 14, 2009, 10:05
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i'm starting ultimate this season- without a league (been playing basic casually for the past 4-5 years)
any tips for a newcomer? thanks
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| | | 46 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Wed, Oct 14, 2009, 10:20
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Study the schedule is my tip for the day.
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| | | 47 | dpr
ID: 552411820
Wed, Oct 14, 2009, 12:02
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43: thew front office will show your balance
44: are you doing playoff baseball or something? Mine were automatically converted and then there when i tried to buy my basketball teams.
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| | | 48 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 14, 2009, 13:24
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Aha! Front office. Who knew!
If you don't have any teams, you can get a free team in the Season 1 Sal Cap Challenge game, and then check your front office page.
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| | | 50 | Headless T Gunners
ID: 181117294
Thu, Oct 15, 2009, 09:22
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47 You are correct sir !
I'll have to pay and collect my money from the baseball regular season
Didn't know I needed to stay away from post season baseball.
So be it.
Still love this game best !
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| | | 51 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Thu, Oct 15, 2009, 15:17
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Per TSN:
UPDATE 10/15 2PM: This upgrade will be happening tonight. We will be bringing the game down for about an hour at 4am EST.
There will be a product upgrade this week. The following enhancements will be included:
* SNP/G
* Team History page in Salary Cap
* Trade History page in Salary Cap
* Player gamelogs
* DNT schedule will accurately display league playoff scenarios
* Team filter to DNT research page
* Better admin tools for processing roster escalations and re-scoring leagues
* Player popup units into TFA
Thanks,
Patrick
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| | | 52 | dpr
ID: 552411820
Thu, Oct 15, 2009, 15:29
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If you read the thread they also mention how they intend to add different periods for search options and all the features we are used too. I am sure it will be a slow process and full of mistakes but hopefully in the end we have a good product.
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| | | 53 | Pistol Pete
ID: 73521622
Thu, Oct 15, 2009, 16:07
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What the....? Alright, who's using my gurupie handle?
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| | | 54 | Senator Urine
ID: 348262116
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 12:26
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Finally just bought my teams, I'm officially sucked in again. Some thoughts on the new interface:
- Holy crap, we can finally put up a team picture. I like this a lot.
- Is it just me or is last minute trading going to be harder now? I don't see any page or drop down that lets you quickly toggle between teams. Is going through the front office tab the only way?
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| | | 55 | qwert
ID: 149561816
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 17:56
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I'm not a multiple-team guy, but definitely think last minute trades will be harder for another reason...you have to release a player before you buy another, so no selling someone directly for a player...which is somewhat frustrating since you can't know for sure whether the player you are buying is frozen or not.
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| | | 56 | Senator Urine
ID: 348262116
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 20:04
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Oh wow, I could see that being really problematic. Not a fan of this change (and I'm in the minority who has never had a problem with them in the past about anything).
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| | | 58 | G
ID: 441412322
Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 21:04
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Good! While this game consumes a lot of time for the top players it is nice to see a change that may compensate those players that actually have a life (outside of TSN Ultimate Hoops) :)
The single biggest problem remains the NBA's pathetic injury report issue.
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| | | 59 | Senator Urine
ID: 348262116
Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 05:18
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Agreed, I wish they'd have to submit an active roster to the media a couple hours before the game.
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| | | 60 | Senator Urine
ID: 348262116
Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 14:41
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I emailed TSN about it, they said they'll forward the issue on. Hopefully they somehow get it in but I'm not expecting it. Game-time Camby trading is now five times as risky.
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| | | 61 | CJ
Leader
ID: 499271021
Wed, Oct 21, 2009, 09:37
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Post 29 Due to your again greatness to this game....I might have been sucked in to play again this year as your horizontal spreadsheet is going to cut tons of time for me right off the start. It was one of the reasons I was leaning towards not playing. Plus I never win just contribute to all of your credits...ha ha ha
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| | | 62 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Wed, Oct 21, 2009, 21:49
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For those of us waiting for the rookies to be added to TSN's games, they're finally in there...woo hoo!
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| | | 63 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 04:52
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And they are pretty low compared to other years.
Griffin 4.85 to name one.
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| | | 64 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 10:37
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Additional players are now in the sartibles and Assimilator.
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| | | 65 | Florian
ID: 549221910
Fri, Oct 23, 2009, 11:02
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Wasn't planning on playing this year as I'm not going to have time to actually look at basketball some days, but the RIHC draft is almost over. And I've got unused tokens. Maybe I'll just put in one team and accept that my team isn't going to all that good, so I can play GMD.
How many teams have signed up this year?
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| | | 66 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Oct 23, 2009, 11:16
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Not sure there's any way to tell at this point.
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| | | 67 | Florian
ID: 549221910
Fri, Oct 23, 2009, 11:47
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Any rule changes or other significant changes from past years?
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| | | 68 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Oct 23, 2009, 11:56
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Rules seem to be the same.
Site design is completely different.
To see the site design, you can sign up for a team in the free game and try that out. Site functionality is the same as for Ultimate.
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| | | 69 | allhair allstars
ID: 439482415
Sat, Oct 24, 2009, 16:48
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Does anyone have an idea how many tokens it takes to play the Ultimate game?
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| | | 70 | Dunkenstein
Leader
ID: 039541913
Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 20:10
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65 & 66
If you click on Universal Rankings, TSN lists every team in Ultimate Hoops. There appear to currently be 879 teams. My guess this means that this is the last year of Ultimate Hoops.
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| | | 71 | Florian
ID: 549221910
Mon, Oct 26, 2009, 11:24
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Currently 929 teams including the three I just signed up.
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| | | 72 | dpr
ID: 552411820
Mon, Oct 26, 2009, 12:02
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How many teams play hockey? I imagine less than basketball. If that game is viable then hoops could be as well.
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| | | 73 | Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Mon, Oct 26, 2009, 12:35
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I really dislike the new format. I also find it a little annoying that I can't click on the username of the people in my league and see their TSN history. I like knowing what kind of competition is in each league.
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| | | 74 | Little M
ID: 559592610
Mon, Oct 26, 2009, 13:00
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Re 72: 1,605 teams in hockey. Hockey has traditionally had more teams than basketball at TSN. Don't know why.
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| | | 75 | Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Mon, Oct 26, 2009, 13:08
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Did Blooki buy his teams yet? That's at least another 20 if he hasn't.
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| | | 76 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Mon, Oct 26, 2009, 13:43
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You know what is really useless(and annoying), all those Stop signs, feels like Im stuck in traffic.
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| | | 77 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Mon, Oct 26, 2009, 16:36
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961 teams as of now...
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| | | 78 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Mon, Oct 26, 2009, 21:41
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#75 - LMAO!
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| | | 79 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Tue, Oct 27, 2009, 07:32
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You also getting this error when you want to access your teams?
Internal Server Error - Read
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Reference #3.34b1d040.1256642974.0
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| | | 80 | Florian
ID: 549221910
Tue, Oct 27, 2009, 10:19
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up to 1005 teams
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