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Subject: RIHC 2009-10: Draft Rationales


  Posted by: Guru - [330592710] Thu, Oct 15, 2009, 23:16

This thread will be for managers in the RotoGuru Invitational Hoops Challenge to provide the rationale for each pick.

Here are the ground rules:
1. Only managers in this league should post here. If you want to provide feedback (either from other league managers, or from those not in the league), put it in the discussion thread. (Non-conforming discussion in this thread will be deleted.)

2. Try to keep the pick rationales in the same order as the draft. We'll attempt to keep this thread 2 rounds behind the actual draft. With the lag, most comments should not have an impact on the draft in progress. However, if there are aspects of your pick that you feel need to be kept under wraps, feel free to protect that information. In particular, please avoid mentioning the names of any players who are still undrafted at that time of the post.

Please post your (2 round lagged) comments at the time you make your pick. For example, you should post your comments for your round 1 pick when you make your round 3 selection. If you are not ready to post at that time, then create a "placeholder" so that the next person is able to go ahead in sequence. When your post is ready, simply post it in the draft discussion thread and a moderator can copy it over.

If possible, please draft your rationale at the time your are making that pick. Not only does that allow you to remember your thoughts "in the moment", but it also makes it simple to copy and paste it when it is due, avoiding unnecessary delays and/or placeholders.

If your rationale is due and intervening placeholders have not been inserted, please insert them before posting your rationale. Simply post something like "2.10 placeholder for Guru". This makes it easy for me (or any moderator) to splice the eventual rationale in the proper place.

3. If you are providing rationales after a placeholder has been inserted, then post it in the draft discussion thread, and someone will copy it over.

4. Once the draft is over, each manager is also encouraged to provide a general draft recap, at which time you can discuss your overall strategy, mention any undisclosed factors, comment on what worked out well and what didn't, etc.

The general format should be:
1.01 Chris Paul, PG, NO
Several sentences of rationale.

In addition, along with your first player rationale, please comment on your rationale for your selection of draft order.
 
1holt
      Leader
      ID: 41831612
      Fri, Oct 16, 2009, 10:43
1st pick, any time I get the chance to pick first in any league I do it. I can pick in the middle or at the end any time I want. 1st pick doesn't happen that often, in theory. I drafted 1st and took Paul in this league last season. If I have to trade him again this season, something has gone terribly wrong, again.

1.01 Chris Paul, PG, NO
If you go 1st you take Paul, unless you enjoy people snickering at you. This isn't rocket science. The only area he doesn't help you is blocks.

 
2Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 41831612
      Fri, Oct 16, 2009, 10:45
1.02 LeBron James, SF, Cle

Holt had already taken the #1 pick. I’m not usually a fan of picking this close to an end of a round. In looking at things, I didn’t like the possible mid-round choices this year. I see a lot of questions surrounding most of them.

With the #2 pick I figured I’d take either Paul or James, after holt made his decision. I was fine either one. Really didn’t consider anyone else. Love the across the board contributions from James and he is a nice foundation for my team giving me flexibility with my upcoming picks. I don’t know that I’ve ever owned James before. In any league. Which is fun.
 
3xpdurmind
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Fri, Oct 16, 2009, 13:44
1.03 Dwyane Wade PG MIA
I didn’t follow basketball last year except for the playoffs and mostly for entertainment purposes. So when I looked at some rakings for the top 12 players I was a bit surprised and a little confused by how different some of these rankings were after the first 2 picks.

I was a little uneasy picking Wade because of his history with injuries, but he posted great numbers in the second half of last year. If Wade plays all his games, he has the ability to challenge for the #1 fantasy spot. I am looking for more of the same lines, if not better 3pt production, as last year.

I contemplated picking later in the draft ( 5 to 10) since I think there would be a great deal of value in the 3rd and 4th round players to outweigh any advantage picking anyone other than Lebron or Paul. But I never had an early pick and the players I wanted in the 3rd and 4th rounds are not guaranteed to be there with this group of managers.

 
4Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Fri, Oct 16, 2009, 13:45
1.04 Kevin Durant SF OKC

No hard choices on my draft selection. I just took best available at #5. When it was time to make my selection, I had not really looked at first round projections yet. I'm happy with the slot.

I drafted up from slot 5 to slot 4 to take Durant. The choices I saw at #5 were Kobe and Granger. I know what Kobe can do. I don't know enough about Granger to know how much upside he has, but I can't imagine him doing any better than 2008-09.

So I took Durant. He's young. He's exciting. His percentages and rebounding numbers were rising last year. And I don't know what his ceiling is. All good reasons to add Kevin Durant to my roster.
 
5Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Oct 16, 2009, 13:58
for Species
1.05 Danny Granger SF IND
When looking over my draft position I really liked the top 6 guys, so I knew I wanted to stay in the top 6. I took the #4 position just in case Dwayne Wade fell to 4th. No dice. I was really torn between Durant and Granger, and in the end despite Durant's monster 2nd half and awesome overall profile I decided to go ahead and ask Tosh to trade down to gain a spot in the 2nd round.

Granger is basically Shawn Marion in his prime with a better scoring average and more 3's. Averaging over a steal and a block a game from the SF position is huge. He's a monster building block for my team.

 
6Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Oct 16, 2009, 14:00
for WonderB
1.06 Amar'e Stoudemire, C, Pho
When I didn’t have a chance at what I considered to be the premium top three then there was maybe 5 guys I would have been happy with. Dropping down to 8th though and just take who was left wasn’t appealing. I had an idea Durant and granger would go 4 – 5 and was willing to pass on granger by not taking the 5th spot. So 6th looked good.

I’m happy to draft in the middle too. Not so much for the first round but for the middle and later ones. I can watch for deals and have a chance at them at regular intervals.

Amare's C status was a big part of my choice. Hitting the traditionally scarce positions early has felt advantageous in the past. With Shaq gone and a return to the ‘fun n gun’ style in Phoenix, I’m hoping a return to 2007 numbers or better is in order. There are injury concerns but that’s true of a few in the first round. I just hope I’m the lucky one.
 
7Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Oct 16, 2009, 14:00
for Wesley
1.07 Deron Williams PG UTA
I took Williams because he was the highest rated player on my board and the best point guard left
 
8Uptown Bombers
      Donor
      ID: 035616416
      Fri, Oct 16, 2009, 16:34
1.08 Kobe Bryant, SG, LAL
No real strategy on choosing draft selection: I just took the best available pick.
For the first round, was hoping Amare Stoudemire would fall, but that didn’t work. I considered Dirk and Deron Williams (who went just before), but ultimately left a two man queue of Kobe and Dirk. Kobe is Kobe. He is going to score a bunch of points help in every category except for blocks. That seems like a pretty good pick at 1.08. I’ve never owned Kobe in these leagues, and I’ve noticed that I usually do poorly in drafting for points and 3’s. Hopefully, Kobe gets me started in the right direction in those areas.
 
9Florian
      ID: 508492423
      Fri, Oct 16, 2009, 17:44
1.09 Dirk Nowitzki
When I got the ninth pick I figured I'd either end up with Amare (top 5 potential, but high injury risk) or Deron Williams. I was surprised to see Dirk drop to the ninth spot and was quite happy to select him for my team again. I got him with the sixth pick last year and expect similar production to last year.
 
10Florian
      ID: 508492423
      Fri, Oct 16, 2009, 17:45
for Jason

1.10 Brandon Roy, SG, Por
I was not to happy with the draft order, because I would have liked one of the first 1-6. position. I tried to create a new strategy, my goal was to get Roy and Iguodala in the first two rounds. I prefer the players who are good at most of categories and tried to avoid building a category on only one or two players.

Roy is this type of player, and I can use him as PG too in the fantasy game. He had a fantastic year behind, and he will improve this year almost in all categories (maybe the FG% and the assists will decrease a bit). Andre Miller's arriving and a healthy Oden on the court can help the production of Roy. I hope so..

 
11Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Oct 16, 2009, 18:12
1.11 Dwight Howard, C, Orl
Howard is a beast, and if not for that ugly FT%, would be a top 5 pick. He offers outsized numbers in rebounds, blocks, and FG%, and solid scoring. He also averages a steal per game. But that FT% - coupled with the extreme number of free throws taken – yikes!

In spite of that, I have him as the top ranked player at this point. Usually, my ranking system penalizes poor shooters to the extent that they are taken before they have statistical ranking value. So this is somewhat of a novelty for me.

Will I decide to punt FT%, or will I attempt to manage my team to prop it up? Hard to say at this point. Probably punt - but we’ll see. I note that Species took Howard early last year, punted FT%, and finished second overall. Several years ago, I punted blocks and finished first. So it can be done – although the margin for error is slight.
 
12Harverad
      ID: 329201618
      Fri, Oct 16, 2009, 20:21
1.12 Al Jefferson, C, Min

Al Jefferson is a gamble due to his reconstructive ACL surgery but he is one of the top centers who can post 20 points, 10+ rebounds, 1.8 blocks with good percentages. He looks better in the pre-season games and I am hoping that he plays 75+ games this season.
 
13Harverad
      ID: 329201618
      Fri, Oct 16, 2009, 20:24
2.01 Chris Bosh, PF, Tor

Chris Bosh is a big man who shoots around 50% from the field and above 80% from the free throw line in addition to 10+ rebounds. On top of that, he is going to be a free agent this summer and I am hoping that it would give him extra motivation to put up big numbers.
 
14Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Oct 16, 2009, 20:28
2.02 Rajon Rondo, PG, Bos
Ok, so I know where I’m going with FT%. Not even a punt; more like a quick kick. If nothing else, this will make my draft more interesting.

Rondo really turned it on last year. His biggest attributes are in steals and assists. He doesn’t shoot from long range, and doesn’t score a lot, although there is still room for growth there. FT shooting is his Achille’s heel. But with Dwight Howard on the roster already, so what?

When I reran my rankings while ignoring FT%, Rondo stuck out as the premiere available PG – since most other PGs derive significant value from FT%. I had tentatively planned to go with a big and a PG with the first two picks, so why not?

Before committing to punting FT%, I was considering Caron Butler, Joe Johnson, Steve Nash, Chauncey Billups, Iguodala, and a few others. But I couldn’t get comfortable that their FT shooting was wasted value – and no one player stood out from the pack. Had Chris Bosh survived to this pick, I might have gone there. But I’ll dance the Rondo.

 
15jason
      ID: 5298716
      Fri, Oct 16, 2009, 23:19
2.03 Andre Igoudala SG, Phi
Everything according to plan. The numbers of Iguodala very similar to Roy's, he is better at rebounds and steals, the problem is only with the FT%. But I hope: Andre could it in a very high level (82%) two years ago.

After the first two guard picks I was so far so good in every categories. The blocks a bit later.

 
16Florian
      ID: 508492423
      Sat, Oct 17, 2009, 01:27
2.04 Steve Nash, PG, Pho
I considered Billups, Gasol and Kidd before choosing Nash. Phoenix never averaged more than 111 points/game during the Mike D'Antoni years and that system enabled Nash to put up gaudy numbers. With Porter as a coach last year and Shaq slowing down the game the first fifty games were a disaster. When Alvin Gentry took over a coach Phoenix's offense was turned loose again for the last 31 games. Phoenix averaged 117 points/game over the rest of last year. Nash's numbers post all-star break (the last 28 games of the season; I couldn't find a summary of Nash's numbers for the last 31 games and was too lazy to calculate it out myself) were 18.7 ppg, 9.6 assists, 1.6 3PTM, 0.8 steals with ridiculous FG (.548) and FT (.923) percentages. Now that Shaq's gone and Amare's back I don't imagine Nash's numbers (baring injury) being all that different.
 
17Uptown Bombers
      Donor
      ID: 035616416
      Sat, Oct 17, 2009, 07:51
2.05 Chauncey Billups, PG, DEN
I was choosing between Billups and Gasol here. I decided to on Billups because I felt I could get a decent big man next round, whereas I expected the top PG’s to start flying off the board. Billups 3’s, assists and steals seemed too good to pass on for a PG. This is the first time I have started a RIHC draft by going small in rounds 1 and 2 and I like the look of my backcourt.
 
18WonderB
      Sustainer
      ID: 241053812
      Sat, Oct 17, 2009, 09:42
for Wesley
2.06 Pau Gasol, PF, LAL

I took Gasol hoping he will put up the same kind of numbers he put up in the playoffs last year.
 
19WonderB
      Sustainer
      ID: 241053812
      Sat, Oct 17, 2009, 09:44
2.07 Jose Calderon, PG, Tor

I agonized over this pick from the second I was on the clock. I think I took me an hour and a half to decide which is long for me. I’m usually more prepared and have a pick ready but the guys I was hoping to get went right in front of me. I would have taken billups or nash in a heart beat but I get the consolation prize of Jose. Not that I’m too disappointed. I was targeting a PG here and a run on them had started. the big PG’s would be gone by my 3rd pick.
I don’t consider Jose a reach. It just worried me that he hadn’t done anything big in the preseason. I watched the raptors game that night and jose still had the ball in his hands a lot so I have to believe his season will be as good as expected.
It’s a homer pick too but only the very smallest part of the decision process.
I also considered Devin Harris here but 3 preseason injuries scared me off. Kidd was examined as well but it was just too hard to start off that far behind in points.
 
20Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Sat, Oct 17, 2009, 11:59
for Species
2.08 Devin Harris, PG, NJN
I did not have my heart set on a point guard this round, but having a top PG is a pretty key aspect of this format, and I really liked Harris in that tier of top PG's....with a fairly big drop off to the next PG's.

Harris really came into his own last year upon landing in New Jersey last year. A PG that drops 22 points, 7 assists, 3.3 rebounds and 1.7 steals with an OK FG% and solid FT% is pretty valuable.

I gave Kevin Garnett some serious consideration and wonder if I will regret passing on him.....but Harris, if he just does what he does last year, is a solid anchor to my team.

 
21Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Sat, Oct 17, 2009, 12:00
for Tosh
2.09 Joe Johnson, SG, ATL
Since I created this year's strategy based on Durant, I knew I wanted a PG here. Rondo, Nash, Billups, and Calderon all disappear leading into my pick. There was a bit of a delay on pick 2.08, so I had time to come up with a 1-man queue. Then Species mucks things up and takes Devin Harris away from me. I don't know why I didn't have a back-up plan, but I didn't. It was already past my bedtime, so I had to scramble for my selection.

Caron Butler and Gilbert Arenas were my top choices on my draft sheet, but their durability is questionable, and I hate using early picks on risky players. Duncan and Kidd were considered, but I'm trying to draft young this year. So I end up deciding on Joe Johnson based almost entirely on durability. He has played at least 79 games in six of the past seven seasons, provides numbers across all categories, does offer PG eligibility, and at age 28, should be at his peak.

 
22Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Sat, Oct 17, 2009, 12:16
for xpdurmind
2.10 Brook Lopez, C, NJN
I set a 3 man queue: Joe Johnson, Lopez and Garnett. I haven’t seen a single game that Lopez played. Yet he is getting a lot of love from the so called experts, and after looking up his stats for last year (a big with good FT% and 2 blocks a game) I can understand why. I was torn trying to decide between Garnett and Lopez here and which one of the 2 would fall back to me in the 3rd round., because I wanted to draft both even though I figured that both Holt and Mike D would be drafting a big.

I am not sure how Carter’s departure will affect Lopez’s production, but he might see more double teams which means either more turnovers or more assists. Here’s hoping for the latter.

 
23Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Sat, Oct 17, 2009, 12:16
2.11 Jason Kidd, PG, Dal

I could have gone many directions here. Had considered Johnson and Lopez but they were gone. Decided to grab Kidd and go big when it came back around since I thought Kidd was the last of the elite point guards available. I also think he will do well in Dallas this year with their personnel changes.
 
24holt
      ID: 308491916
      Sat, Oct 17, 2009, 15:32
2.12 Kevin Garnett PF BOS

Assuming he comes back from knee surgery ok (it seems that he will), I think he was just the best player available. With Paul as my first pick I wasn't locked into going after any stat category in particular. I just loaded my queue and let it go. He can help me everywhere but 3's.

3.01 Caron Butler SF WAS

Like Garnett, Butler came off my queue which I just set to best player available. Solid pick, helps me everywhere but blocks. If I had been around to make the picks myself, I doubt I would have taken both Garnett and Butler, prob would have looked for stronger assists or blocks from one of the 2 picks. It's ok, I can work with it.
 
25Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Sat, Oct 17, 2009, 16:06
3.02 Tim Duncan, PF/C, SA

I may have to rename my team after drafting old guys Kidd and Duncan. I liked Duncan’s consistent blocks, boards, FG%, and points, along with his center eligibility. My last two picks have been pretty boring, but they also have been safe, as long as age doesn’t become an issue.
 
26xpurmind
      ID: 44802419
      Sat, Oct 17, 2009, 19:32
3.03 Gilbert Arenas, PG WAS

I woke up late and barely had time to pour my coffee and steal a few minutes to set up my 3rd round queue. I seriously thought that I had Carter ahead of ahead of him in my queue. That must have been the lack of sleep.

There isn’t much to say about Arenas. High risk, high reward. Someone had to do it and it might be fun for a while. Although I expect a smarter Arenas, now that he learned to keep his mouth shut, I question whether he still has the fire inside. I see a more controlled Arenas with better shot selection and higher assists.
 
27Species
      ID: 2591161
      Sat, Oct 17, 2009, 20:26
3.03 Carmelo Anthony, SF, DEN

Hmmmmmmmmm........this doubles my SF spot (Granger) but I'm still in "Best Player Available" mode, and Carmelo is one of the BPA's right now. His high scoring, decent %'s, rebounds and steals will play well on my team.

I gave a LOT of consideration to draft Josh Smith for his blocks and steals....and came very close to doing so. I also gave Vince Carter a decent look.
 
28Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Sat, Oct 17, 2009, 21:26
3.05 Josh Smith (PF/SF, ATL)

After taking Durant and Johnson in the first two rounds, I was eyeballing a big man, and knowing that my real desire (Tim Duncan) would not slip to me, I was targeting Antawn Jamison. And then Jamison goes out with a shoulder injury and an undetermined return date. Since I just put so much emphasis on a durable player (selecting Johnson), it made no sense to select Jamison right now.

I narrowed my options to Josh Smith and Elton Brand. Still just 23 years old, Smith is going to hurt my FT%, but if he can rebound back to 2007-08 numbers, Smith will be a steal, and block a lot of other teams below me in the standings (bad puns intended).
 
29Uptown Bombers
      Donor
      ID: 035616416
      Sat, Oct 17, 2009, 23:45
for WonderB
3.06 Paul Pierce, SG, BOS
Just Paul. Kind of how it felt to pick him, this one’s boring. A good swing man contributor in all cats, without blocks. He is about as much a known entity as you can get in this game at this point. Same role on the same team as last year. I guess I can hope one of the other two heads of the monster could go down and Pierce gets a bigger role. With everything staying the same though, he should still be worth the pick here.
 
30Uptown Bombers
      Donor
      ID: 035616416
      Sat, Oct 17, 2009, 23:46
for Wesley
3.07 David West, PF, NOR
I took him for all the double doubles he put up for me after I traded for him last year. He is one of the biggest reasons I won a AA league last year.
 
31Uptown Bombers
      Donor
      ID: 035616416
      Sat, Oct 17, 2009, 23:47
3.08 Elton Brand, PF/C, PHI
Before the draft even started I was targeting Brand here. It helps that he is one of my favorite players, but he also put me in the hole last year as my first round pick, so I figure he owes me. I am counting on a bounce back year from Brand, not all the way to 1st round level player, but someone who will be a tops 25 player. He is C eligible, blocks lots of shots, and is a monster on the boards. Brand’s scoring will suffer, but he is too talented not to take here. The question remains whether or not he can mesh with his teammates, but I am assuming that will get figured out before long.
 
32Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 07:37
for Florian
3.09 Vince Carter, SF, Orl
I considered Gerald Wallace, Kevin Martin and Rashard Lewis prior to selecting Carter. All three can potentially put up (much) better per game numbers than Carter will in Orlando, but Lewis is already out for the first 10 games and with Wallace and Martin you never know if you're going to get 52 games this season or 72 (Martin managed to play 80 games three years ago, but neither player has managed more than 72 in any other season). I didn't feel like gambling so early in the draft. In the last five years Carter has never played less than 76 games in a season. Now that he has something to play for in Orlando, I'm hoping that trend continues. I expecting similar numbers to last year with slightly more 3PTM and assists and slightly fewer points and rebounds.
 
33Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 07:38
for Jason
Gerald Wallace, SF, Cha
After two guards I wanted something else. Somebody who is good at 3's, rebounds, and blocks, or at least two from these categories, or Carmelo. So my targeted players in the 3'd round were Anthony and Murphy. Anthony was gone earlier, and I was surprised that Wallace was left as a possible choice. I needed to decide, and finally I picked Wallace, because I hoped four picks later I can get Murphy too, but vice versa I wouldn't had any chance to reach both of them.

Wallace is a versatile player, he fills the stats, and improved in the area of FT% a lot over the last few years.

 
34Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 07:39
3.11 Baron Davis, PG, LAC
Baron shoots poorly, and is injury prone. Even so, he was the guy I was targeting. With Dwight Howard on my roster, I can handle his lousy FG%. His FT% is OK, although a bit low for a PG – but that is of no concern. Throw out those cats, and Davis is a stud!

To the extent that Baron can stay on the court, he’ll give me scoring, assists, steals, and treys. If I can get 65-70 games of production, I’ll consider a good fit. And any upside vs. last year - in either stats or games - is gravy.

Leading up to this pick, Vince Carter and Gerald Wallace were also on my short list.

 
35Harverad
      ID: 58946178
      Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 10:34
3.12 Troy Murphy, PF, Ind
I was looking for a player who can hit three pointers and Troy Murphy hit 161 three pointers last year along with 14+ points and 10+ rebounds. He did a great job last year and I am hoping him to continue where he left off last year.

4.01 Kevin Martin, SG, Sac
I narrowed my option to Derrick Rose and Kevin Martin for this pick as I had no guards at this point. Derrick Rose is a great PG but unfortunately, doesn't hit a lot of 3's. It was a difficult choice but with Garcia out until next year, Kevin Martin will be the go-to guy for Sacramento and decided to go with Kevin at this pick.
 
36Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 12:51
4.02 Rashard Lewis, PF, Orl
Yes, I know he suspended for 10 games. But even factoring that in, he’s at the top of my rankings. He brings a smattering of stats across the board, although the focus is on treys. His good FT% will wither on the vine, but I’m ignoring that in assessing his value, and I still like the pick.

I may be crazy. But then, this has been a crazy draft for me.

 
37Uptown Bombers
      Donor
      ID: 035616416
      Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 14:27
for Jason
4.03 Anthony Randolph, PF, GSW
Because I hadn't had any centers at that time, I had to choose one. In this round my favorite player was Murphy, but Harverad brought him in the end of the previous round. So I wanted Okur, or Bargnani because of 3's, or David Lee, who can do double-double in every game.

I picked up Anthony Randolph finally. Why? I don't know. It was a sudden change. He is not a center, he is maybe not an absolutely ready player, and he plays in GSW... But you can't know it. I wanted to get him, but earliest in the 6's round. In the first three preseason games he was fantastic, in points, rebounds and block, everything what I am expecting from a good forward or center.

 
38Uptown Bombers
      Donor
      ID: 035616416
      Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 14:27
for Florian
4.04 David Lee, C, NYK
I agonized over this pick. I strongly considered Monta Ellis and Andrea Bargnani. I considered Ginobili, Jason Richardson and Aldridge. I considered trying to trade down, but it was the middle of the night, so I finally just made my pick. I'm hoping Lee's numbers don't significantly change from last year. I actually had Bargnani's production projected ahead of Lee's, but every year I seem to fall behind in team FG% and rebounding, which are Lee's strengths, so I decided Lee would probably end up fitting my team needs better. And he fills one of my center spots.
 
39Uptown Bombers
      Donor
      ID: 035616416
      Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 14:28
4.05 Monta Ellis, PG, GSW
I fully expected to back to back big here, but after looking over the available PF/C types I felt comfortable enough that I could wait until the next rounds and still get comparable value. So I looked over the other players and Ellis stood out. He compliments the strengths of my drafted players with high scoring and steals and solid assists and rebounds. He has been injury prone but those injuries have seemed sort of random. I am hoping he avoids that bad luck and has his best year to date.
 
40Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 14:40
for Wesley
4.06 Carlos Boozer, PF, Utah
I hoping for him to return to form after being injured on and off last year. When healthy he is a top 20 fantasy producer in my eyes. I'm hoping Paul Millsap doesn't affect his numbers this year.
 
41Species
      ID: 2591161
      Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 16:55
For WonderB:

4.07 Jameer Nelson, PG, ORL
Second guessing is useless but as I write this I’m thinking why didn’t I take Aldridge like I originally intended, or marion as my original second option. Maybe overthinking is going to kill me. Vicious cycle.

It wasn’t a grand design to get a second PG but it seemed like a good idea at the time. Nelson is a good PG and hopefully the “return to allstar status after the injury” predictions come true. He puts me in good standing in the threes category while still having an excellent FG%. I got a lot of holes to fill with my next picks though. A cat or two is starting to look like one of Guru’s punts.

Derrick Rose was also considered.

The above mentioned players were taken after me 1 2 3 bringing my thoughts back to the beginning of the post. A tough draft as expected.

 
42Species
      ID: 2591161
      Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 16:56
For Tosh:

4.08 Derrick Rose, PG, CHI

I need a real PG and a big man. Rose had a great season as a near-unanimous Rookie of the Year, then was super fun to watch in the playoffs. He could use a few more 3s, but should give me more overall stats than comparable big men in this tier. The only other player that drew heavy consideration was Aldridge, who Species took the next pick.
 
43Species
      ID: 2591161
      Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 16:59
4.09 LaMarcus Aldridge, PF, POR

I definitely needed to beef up my front line with this pick, and Aldridge fits well. He's not the huge beast his talent and tools seem to think he could be, but he's rock-solid. He shoots strong %'s, including nice FT%. He gets a steal and a block a game which helps. I just wish he was a 9 boards a game guy.

I gave some consideration to Shawn Marion here as well.
 
44xpdurmind
      ID: 439391816
      Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 17:40
4.10 Shawn Marion, SF, DAL

Wow: The Matrix, Agent Zero and the Flash. All in the first 4 rounds. A near impossible feat 2 years ago.

For my 3rd round I set up a 5 man queue (I don’t recall the exact order) except for KG at the top and Marion at the bottom. He was till available 18 picks later. That makes me wonder whether I missed something, or that the rest of the league is playing tight ( ok, so it’s a poker reference)

I think he’ll be a good fit in Dallas. His garbage man days will return. He played with Kidd 8 years ago. I see Marion’s addition as a Win Now attempt for Cuban. Bottom line: I will be happy if Marion puts up 80% of the numbers of his old self with the same solid percentages.
 
45Mike D
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      ID: 041831612
      Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 20:15
4.11 Andrea Bargnani, PF/C, Tor

He’s a center who will hit almost two three-pointers each game, block shots and shoot a very high percentage from the line. He blossomed last season, averaging career-highs in points (15.4), FG% (45%), 3PT% (41%), rebounds (5.3), blocks (1.2) and minutes (32). His versatility makes him a potential goldmine in fantasy leagues.
 
46Mike D
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      ID: 041831612
      Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 20:47
for holt
4.12 Antawn Jamison, SF, WAS

Just took the best overall player remaining. If not for the shoulder injury he would have gone late 2nd/early 3rd rd I think. Big-time scorer and rebounder, decent 3's, steals, and %'s... Been following his news and he's doing real well. No pain, lifting weights... hoping he doesn't miss much (if any at all) of the regular season.
 
47Mike D
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      ID: 041831612
      Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 20:48
for holt
5.01 Ray Allen, SG, BOS

Again, taking best player available. I'll try to fix any cat probs I have later. Allen came through for me last year so I'm going to try my luck again. Helps me everywhere but blocks, especially 3's.
 
48Mike D
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      ID: 041831612
      Sun, Oct 18, 2009, 20:49
5.02 AL Horford, PF/C, Atl

I went around the world before arriving at Horford. Was leaning Ray Allen until holt took him. Lots of good big men available. Some good guards. Almost went Biedrins but having Duncan already scared me away from taking that bad FT shooting on. Picking so close to the end, it will be awhile before it gets back to me, and I smell a center run, so this is my last chance at Horford.
 
49xpurmind
      ID: 44802419
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 02:07
5.03 Mo Williams, PG, CLE

Mo Williams was the last player left on my 4th round queue. I would have liked more assists than projected from him. And when I had the chance to review the pick, I couldn't find another PG with the percentages I wanted at this point. Well maybe, he can dish 2 more assists/ game to his new teammates. If he can give me 18 pts, 6 assists, and 2 3pts on top of decent FG%, he would be a great value at this point.
 
50Species
      ID: 2591161
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 02:23
5.05 Andrew Bynum, C, LAL

I am regretting this pick because Bynum is injury prone and the Lakers are stacked. I rushed this and don't like it so I refuse to comment further!! LOL
 
51Tosh
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      ID: 057721710
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 03:07
5.05 - Russell Westbrook (PG, OKC)

After taking Rose the last round, I really needed a big man this pick. I was hoping that Aldridge, Bargnani, Horford, or Bynum would make the turn … but those hopes were all dashed. So I took another chance that Okur, Biedrins, Okafor, Hilario, or Hawes would make it back to me in round 6, and selected maybe the last PG with significant upside.

My first 5 players are age 21, 21, 21, 24, and 28. Too bad this isn’t a keeper draft!
 
52Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 08:53
for WonderBoy
5.06 Jason Richardson SF PHO
Jrich. What can I say, he just felt like good value here. I read somewhere Phoenix averaged 117 points in their last 31 games. Can’t remember where I heard that…. Anyway, that’s gotta be good right? He is playing with nash and I think it’s been proven a couple times that guys numbers go up in his presence. I had my eye on him for a few picks so didn’t look too hard at anyone else.
 
53Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 08:54
for Wesley
5.07 Stephen Jackson SG GSW
I took Jackson here just because I need to have a guy that can put up big points on any given night.
 
54Guru
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      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 08:54
for Uptown Bombers
5.08 Andris Biedrins C GSW
With this pick I was looking to maximize rebounds and blocks. Based on averages, Biedrins sorted towards the top. There were other options, but I knew I wanted two of these types of players with this pick and next, so I figured I might as well take Biedrins first. He is young, so maybe there is even some room for growth, particularly with points. Ultimately, I just want him to continue to play as he has been in the past year, each year with slight improvement.
 
55Florian
      ID: 272433110
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 09:33
5.09 Manu Ginobili SG, SA
I had considered picking up Ginobili in the previous round, so it was an easy choice to draft him here. I'm expecting similar/slightly better numbers than last year as he has had a summer to rest and is not trying to come back from major ankle surgery. I'm just hoping he doesn't get hurt and manages to play 75 games.
 
56Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 10:23
for Jason
5.10 Mehmet Okur C UTA
Four rounds without a center. I felt it's a very dangerous tactics, I have to hurry picking one immediately. I pointed to Horford and Bynum for this round, but they were gone much earlier.

Fortunately Okur was left for me, and I already wanted pick him in the previous round. I like Okur, because he is a center with 3's and good Ft%, and not bad at any other categories either.

 
57Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 10:23
5.11 Rudy Gay, SF, Mem
Rudy’s been atop my short list since my last pick, so I’m happy to see him still on the board. He brings a good mix of stats in a durable frame (missing only 8 games in three years), and should be highly motivated entering a contract year. Last year saw a slight dip in production from his sophomore year, but also suggest some realistic potential upside.

Had Gay been taken, Jeff Green was also on my radar. But I may still be able to get him in a couple of rounds. (...or not)
 
58Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 13:11
for Harverad
5.12 Trevor Ariza SF
I was debating between Rudy Gay, Ariza and Eric Gordon with my next two picks but after Guru grabbed Rudy before my pick, my decision became easier. Trevor Ariza was great in the playoffs last year for Lakers and with Rockets playing without Yao and Tracy (out until Feb), Ariza will be able to produce better stats in Houston.

6.01 Eric Gordon SG LAC
Eric Gordon was one of the best rookies last year and I am hoping him to perform better or at least equivalent to his last year numbers. He is a guy who can score 20+ points along with two 3s and also provide high percentages in FG and FT.

 
59Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 13:13
6.02 Emeka Okafor, C, NO
My second consecutive UConn alum. More coincidentally, this pick gives me top two picks in the 2004 NBA draft.

Maybe it’s a little early to pick Okafor, although I doubt if he would have made it to my next pick. More to the point, when I eliminate FT% from consideration, Okafor climbs up the ranking board, as his shooting percentages are very Howard-esque. I also needed to add another shot blocker, and Okafor fills that bill nicely. Had Biedrins survived to this pick, I’d have taken him instead, but Okafor provides a similar profile.

It would be nice if he could score a bit more. Maybe with Chris Paul dishing this year, he'll find a few more scoring opportunities.
 
60Uptown Bombers
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      ID: 035616416
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 16:36
for Jason
6.03 Wilson Chandler, SF, NYK
After the first five rounds I had a well balanced team. In the 6-7. rounds I targeted to strengthen in three pointers with my favorite players, E. Gordon and W. Chandler. I thought maybe Gordon is too early at the beginning of 6. round, but I was sure, later, at the end of 7. he will be no available anymore.

I think, Harverad thought the same, so fished Gordon two picks before me. Because of this I decided I will no wait with Chandler. I know it seems too early as well, but I didn't want to lose him. Chandler is a stable point in New York, fills the stats like G. Wallace, although not in the same level of course. I need very strongly him threes, and I hope he will be improve in everything this year.

 
61Uptown Bombers
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      ID: 035616416
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 16:37
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6.04 Hedo Turkoglu, SF, Tor
I spent several hours agonizing over whether to draft Turkoglu or Salmons. I ended up taking Turkoglu as I feel he has the higher potential and I was hoping that Salmons might slip for another round. I'm rather worried about Hedo's FG%, but am hoping he can return to the level he showed in the 07-08 season. Now that he's in Toronto he'll likely pick up some extra rebounds and lose a few assists.

I briefly considered drafting Harrington, Ben Gordon and Jason Terry with this selection.

 
62Uptown Bombers
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      ID: 035616416
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 16:38
6.05 Nene Hilario, C, DEN
My second pick in a row to emphasize rebounds and blocks and happily enough, Nene was the player second on my wish list besides Biedrins. Nene also contributes in steals and FG%, just like Biedrins. After drafting mostly guards, I feel like I have a good mix of players now, so that moving forward I don’t have to worry too much about position.
 
63tekeballer
      ID: 229121915
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 16:51
6.06 Tony Parker
I needed another PG and with all the new talent the Surs added p-lus a healthy Ginobli his assists should rise as well as FG%.
 
65WonderB
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      ID: 241053812
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 17:44
6.07 Spencer Hawes, C, Sac

I had Hilario and Okafor in my short queue while I was out. The Q was empty and the clock was ticking when I got home.
Desperation set in, this mantra was going through my head – get a big get a big – I dove deep and came up with ???Spencer Hawes???
Would he start on any other but what is sure to be one of the worst teams in the league, I… don’t… know. But he did have a good second half last year when he started getting minutes after brad left. He had plenty of 20 pt games, good rebounds, blocks and he chucks a few from behind the ark. I don’t see a reason why he wouldn’t get those same minutes from the start this year. Go SAC. Ya right. Just don’t take Hawes off the floor in all those blow-outs please.
I’m not listening to those chanting voices in my head anymore.
 
66Tosh
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      ID: 057721710
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 18:19
6.08 - Charlie Villanueva (PF/SF, DET)

So I learned a few things this weekend. (1) This is not a good point in the draft to be away from the computer and my easy-to-manipulate cheat sheets from 7am – 5pm both days. (2) The iphone is not a good way to research players. (3) Kafenatid is not really easy to use with the iphone. But big props to Holt and Uptown Bombers for texting me the picks all weekend.

My rationales for both picks 4 & 5 mentioned my need for a big man (I still have no Center). I expected that one of the five Centers I mentioned in pick 5.05 would be available for this pick, and this is where the “iphone is not a good way to research players” lesson comes into play. I had printed out a ‘travel draft sheet’, but it had gotten wet. So all I was able to do was go to rotowire cheatsheets on my iphone, and Villanueva looked like the best big man available, so I picked him. And I’m pleased with the pick. He put up semi-studly numbers last year playing less than 27 minutes per game. Hopefully he can break out of a semi -glut of big guys in Detroit and earn a starting role, because he has all the skills to be a very good fantasy player.
 
67xpurmind
      ID: 44802419
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 22:00
For Species
6.09 John Salmons,SG, CHI
I really didn't "need" Salmons.....he was just sticking out like a sore thumb on my rankings sheet. He does a little of everything -- nothing spectacular, just does a lot of little things.

A PF type would have really fit my needs a lot better with this pick......and I regret not taking Tyrus Thomas here. But in the end I bet that one of Diaw, Camby or Thomas would have been there. Wrong!

 
68xpurmind
      ID: 44802419
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 22:02
6.10 Boris Diaw, PF, CHA

I was hoping Nene, Okafor or Salmons would fall to me here, but when they didn’t, I started looking at Diaw. He hadn’t played in camp because of an ankle injury, and now Larry Brown says that he is out of shape. But he averaged 16 pts, 5 assists, 6 rebounds, close to a steal, a block and a three a game in Charlotte. He might start out slow, but with the lack of scoring options there, he will be heavily involved in the offense.

I strongly considered Blake Griffin after watching him play, but I really believed he’ll get back to me since that was too early a spot to take him. Holt must have seen the same game that night.
 
69Mike D
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      ID: 041831612
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 22:27
6.11 Marcus Camby, PF/C, LAC

I had a queue that was eaten earlier and when I returned I decided to go with the Cambyman. I’m just sick of seeing his name on my sheet, especially at the end of the 6th round. I know he suffered a rare ankle sprain recently, but he’ll be back. And whenever he plays, he’ll block shots and rebound like no other, and shoot a good %. And when he’s hurt, I have cover for him. Amazingly, he has averaged better than 10 REB, 2 BLK for 6 straight seasons, knocking him off my “never draft” list.
 
70Mike D
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      ID: 041831612
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 23:30
for holt
6.12 Blake Griffin, SF/PF, LAC

Was relieved to see he didn't get snagged. I'm an Oklahoma fan, so by extension I'm a Clipper fan now, ug. Kind of like when Adrian Peterson went to the Vikings. Now they show Vikings games on TV every week now here in Okla.

I think he'll be good right from the start. Not in love with his free-throw % (64% or so) but it shouldn't hurt me too much. Hoping for around 16 ppg, 9 reb, close to 1 block.

 
71Mike D
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      ID: 041831612
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 23:31
for holt
7.01 Tyrus Thomas, SF/PF, CHI

I was weak in blocks, felt Thomas offered me the best mix of blocks, %'s, and rebounds. I expect his game to take a step up this year, more minutes, more responsibility. Decent upside pick, I think.
 
72Mike D
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      ID: 041831612
      Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 23:31
7.02 Ben Gordon, SG, Chi

Considered Gordon, Terry, and Mayo here, since all 3 were similar and gave me things my team needs. 3’s, FT%, points, and a little help in steals. Ultimately decided on Gordon because he’s been so steady over the years and I like his new situation in Detroit, where the guards will carry the team. He still may not start, but he will produce, and produce well.
 
73xpurmind
      ID: 44802419
      Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 02:27

7.03 Paul Milsap, PF, Utah

Once Blake Griffin was gone, I strongly considered Greg Oden here and in hind sight I should have drafted him. Milsap will be consistant. However I am not clear about his minutes. I am looking for 15 pts, 9 rebounds, 1 blk and 1 steal with a 53% FG%.
 
74Species
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      ID: 057721710
      Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 10:05
7.04 Jeff Green, PF, OKC
I really agonized over this pick. I really wanted to convince myself to take Greg Oden. I needed REB and BLK and he would have fit the bill nicely. If he is actually healthy enough to play 70 games and 30 minutes a game, he was a steal for Tosh at the pick after this one. But he just seems so incredibly brittle that I couldn't pull the trigger.

Green is the 7th straight guy I have drafted that doesn't really do anything phenomenally, but does a lot of things well. I like the 100 3's and 80-ish steals from a guy who can get me 7 boards a game. Considering that I will soon have to dip into the depths of category specialists who don't score, it was nice to add another 16+ PPG scorer to the mix.

 
75Tosh
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      ID: 057721710
      Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 10:06
7.05 - Greg Oden (C, POR)

The rules require having a Center on our starting roster, so I had better hurry and grab one before they are all gone. Oden is currently heading into the season healthy, and Oden is averaging 15 points and 9.7 rebounds in 24 minutes per game this preseason. I’m a Trailblazer fan, so I’ve had high hopes for Oden since he was drafted. Hopefully he can do well for my fantasy team, and provide solid rebound, block, and FG% numbers. And wait … the rules say we need to have two centers? Jeez. I’ll keep looking.
 
76WonderB
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      ID: 241053812
      Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 10:55
7.06 Zach Randolph, PF, Mem

Oh zach, another consolation prize. I had Oden on my queue ahead of him but that disappeared right in front of me.
I needed points and rebounds so Zach works for me here. If he would only put a little effort into the rest of his game he might get the multi million dallar contract, oh wait, he’s already got that so I guess I can’t expect anything extra. As of now I don’t have any of his team mates so he can just keep up the selfish play then, that’s not such a bad thing in fantasy land. Stay out of the strip bars too buddy.
 
77Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 15:33
for tekeballer/Wesley
7.07 O.J. Mayo
Mayo is another pure scorer who has not even scratched the surface of his potential.
 
78Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 15:33
for Uptown
7.08 Al Harrington PF NYK
His game went to a whole new fantasy level once Al was on the Knicks. The Knicks added no one of merit to their roster that threatens to steal Al’s stats. My team needed a source of 3’s and Harrington certainly proved he will fire away in NYK. In the process, he averaged 20 points and 6 boards a game last year. Even if he can’t duplicate that inflated PPG, he should still be a good source for points, 3’s, boards and steals. I haven’t even mentioned that he is C eligible. Sounds like a worthwhile 7th rounder to me. I think I can absorb his poor FG % with my previous two picks.
 
79Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 15:33
for Florian
7.09 Jason Terry SG DAL
I considered taking Terry with my previous pick and was very happy to see him still available. Terry is excellent value at the end of the seventh round. He'll provide 16-19 ppg, 95 steals, 150 3PTM and a few assists all while shooting an excellent FG% in the 46-48% range.

After making this pick, I realized that the only player on my team not at least 30 years of age is David Lee. I guess my team has a limited time to win a championship.

 
80Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 15:34
for Jason
7.10 Andre Miller PG POR
This period of the draft I felt my team has some weak points, the FT%, the 3's, and the assists. I wanted to find someone who can help these areas. I realise it is not a simple job in this phase. Finally it left two players between whom I had to chose. I picked up A. Miller, but T. Ford is a very good player as well.

Miller was my first real PG, with good percentages, assists and steals, and not bad at rebounds too. Unfortunately the threes are not the him table. There is a risk factor, who will be the starter PG in Portland, but I can't imagine that Blake are able to get too many minutes from Miller.

 
81Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 15:34
7.11 Raymond Felton, PG, Cha
I need to bulk up my guard stats, and while Felton isn’t a prolific scorer, he’s the best assist option at this point in the draft. After three years of relatively stable stats, I think I know what I’m getting, without a great deal of upside. In this case, what I’m getting is what I want from this pick: 14 points, 7 assists, 1.5 steals, .75 treys, and a lot of bricks.

 
82Harverad
      ID: 399472016
      Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 17:52
7.12 Luis Scola, PF, Hou
I was hoping that either Al Harrington or Mayo is available at this spot but both of them were gone before my pick. With Yao out for the season, I am hoping that Luis Scola will be able to provide 15+ points and 10+ rebounds on most nights.

8.01 Aaron Brooks, PG, Hou
My team is looking like Houston Rockets team with Ariza, Scola and now Aaron Brooks. My next pick will be after 22 picks and I was not sure if Brooks will be available. There is a considerable upside as Brooks performed really well in the regular season and playoffs once Rafer Alston was traded to Orlando.
 
83Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 17:52
for Harverad
7.12 Luis Scola PF

8.01 Aaron Brooks PG HOU

 
84Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 17:53
8.02 Michael Redd, SG, Mil
Heading in to my 7th and 8th rounders, my short list was getting decimated with pretty expert marksmanship. Green, Randolph, Mayo, Harrington, and Terry were all on my radar – in no particular order.

I was primarily looking for the non-big stats, and when my 7th round pick was finally due, the list had diminished to three: Felton, Redd, and Chalmers. I decided to take Felton in round 7, since it looked like Harverad would be looking for assists on the turn – although his roster so far almost looks like he is punting on assists. Redd didn’t seem to have a profile that would complement his squad. I actually have Chalmers ranked slightly higher than either Felton or Redd, but I think that is attributable his extra steals, which are not as important to me at this point.

Redd is coming back from torn ACL and MCL injuries, and at 30 is on the wrong side of the NBA trend line. But he seems to be healthy so far, and I need his scoring and treys, so he’s a good fit. And although I have Howard and Okafor to prop up my FG%, I also have Baron Davis and Felton to drag it back down, so Redd’s respectable 45% FG rate will be helpful, coming from a scorer. He was drafted in the 5th round of last year’s RIHC, so I think I’m getting a reasonable age/injury discount in round 8.
 
85Uptown Bombers
      Donor
      ID: 035616416
      Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 21:49
for Jason
8.03 Andrew Bogut, C, Mil
I needed a center, I needed blocks, and all what Bogut can give to the team..except his terrible FT%. I was afraid (and I am) a bit because of injury risk, but I thought in the 8th round you can afford a "little" risk. Bogut is a fantastic player if he is healthy. In the preseason games he played more and more minutes, and he is better and better.

In this round I considered J. Noah and C. Kaman too, but Noah has to share some minutes with B. Miller (but he seems to be the strater), however Kaman will be only back up center when Camby will come back.

 
86Uptown Bombers
      Donor
      ID: 035616416
      Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 21:49
for Florian
8.04 Leandro Barbosa, SG, PHO
I considered J.R. Smith, Chalmers, Artest, Bibby, and Thompson for this pick. I was really hoping one of them would make it back to me in the ninth round, but felt there was no way Barbosa would.

With Phoenix back to their fast break style after the all-star break Barbosa averaged 16.8 ppg, 3 rebounds, 3 assists, 1.6 steals and 1.5 3PTM with a FG% of .497. I'm hoping he manages to put up similar numbers this year.

 
87Uptown Bombers
      Donor
      ID: 035616416
      Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 21:50
8.05 Thaddeus Young, SF, PHI
I agonized over this pick. There were many other directions I considered going here, namely Mike Conley, Michael Beasley, and JR Smith. My team needed a few things: a SF, 3’s, and assists. I felt comfortable in the other stats. I decided on Young for a few reasons. First, he sort of hedges my bet of Brand in round 3. Young thrived in Brand’s absence last year. If the chemistry issues don’t get worked out in Philly, at least I have the two guys whose fantasy fates seem linked. Perhaps their totals while playing together will give me the stats I need. Also, he is strong in steals and FG % while promising some upside in other categories. He doesn’t give me the assists or 3’s I want, so that will have to be addressed later in the draft.
 
88WonderB
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      ID: 241053812
      Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 23:12
for tekeballer
8.06 Ron Artest,SF,LAL
I took Artest so he can help me with steals and rebounds.
 
89WonderB
      Sustainer
      ID: 241053812
      Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 23:17
8.07 Michael Beasley, SF, Mia

Hey Beas man… pass the dutchie to the left man. Maybe I had a little snow blow when I made this pick. Assuming he stays off the pipe his numbers should go up like smoke or in it if rehab didn't work. Coach says he is in for big minutes. Does big minutes mean 30+, I hope so. a 2nd overall pick in his 2nd year should get his chance anyway.
TJ ford was considered but the thought that he was one hard fall from being paralyzed scared me off. Richard Jefferson too.
 
90Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Tue, Oct 20, 2009, 23:38
8.08 Marc Gasol C MEM

Even though I just drafted Greg Oden, I still need a Center. And a couple of the teams that pick before my next pick also need a center, so I opt to take the best remaining Center now. Gasol, Kaman, Noah, and Hibbert were all considered. After reading various opinions around the web on those four guys … there was less ‘bad stuff’ written about Gasol, so he was my choice.

I’m not really sure what I might end up with overall. Gasol was pretty good as a rookie, and apparently came into training camp “in shape”. He doesn’t provide exceptional value in any single category, but he also doesn’t have any glaring deficiencies in his game. He’s in a battle for playing time. But as of press time, he’s still a starter with upside, so that’s OK for me at this point in the draft.
 
91xpurmind
      ID: 44802419
      Wed, Oct 21, 2009, 02:29
For Species
8.09 Mario Chalmers, PG, Mia
Enough is enough. I probably took too long taking well-rounded players and not enough category specialists to where I fear my team will be mired in mediocrity in the middle of the pack in everything instead of doing well in any categories. I have to really concentrate on trying to shore up my weak categories. Sadly it is likely too late to do so in FG%, so I'd better be rock solid everywhere else.

After passing on Greg Oden last round, I started to look at the rebounders and shot blocking specialists. Those guys tend to really fall down the cheat sheets and projection sheets, so I felt it was safe to look PG - PG with these next two picks. Chalmers topped the list of this next tier of PG's that included TJ Ford, Mike Bibby and Mike Conley. I held feint hopes of landing 2 of those 4 with these two picks.

Chalmers and Ford are pretty closely ranked. I like Ford much better as a player, but his injury history had me lean to Chalmers with this pick. I love his steals in particular and he hits enough 3's to be a factor. He shoots a bad FG%, but I think I am toast there anyways. I wish he was more of a 7+ assist guy, but as my 2nd PG that's good enough when combined with the steals and 3's.

 
92xpurmind
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      Wed, Oct 21, 2009, 02:33
8.10 Jason Thompson. PF, Sac

I wanted Bogut here, but that was wishful thinking. T J Ford kept staring me in the face, but I figured if I let him go I might get either Kaman or Noah back. And besides, it looked like Mike D was drooling at the prospect of landing him. I know how it feels when the player you want gets snatched so close to your pick.

Aside from the great line Thompson has been posting, given it is only the preseason, I looked at how thin Sacramento's front line is. Thomson is guaranteed major minutes. He also started at center the first 2 games of the preseason. 16 points, 9 rebounds, 1 block and a little less than a steal and a 50% FG percentage. I couldn’t pass him up.
 
93Mike D
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      Wed, Oct 21, 2009, 09:28
8.11 Travis Ford, PG, Ind

I tried to trade up 4 times in the 8th round to get Ford, and am thrilled to get him without even making a deal. I knew there was a chance he’d be here regardless so I didn’t push real hard. I think Ford is ready for a big year buoyed by increased playing time and better familiarity with the Pacers’ system. An excellent FT shooter, steal man, and assist guy, he will score some points and seems to have added an occasional three ball this year which is a bonus. He fits my squad nicely.
 
94Mike D
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8.12 Joakim Noah, C, CHI

I still had zero centers on my team, which seems kind of ridiculous. Anyway, I pretty much had to take 2 centers with these picks. Noah helps me out a lot on defense, not so much on offense. If his post all-star break numbers are an indication, I can expect good %'s, 9 rpg, 1.3 bpg, possibly 2 assists. His play time just needs to be steady.
 
95Mike D
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9.01 Chris Kaman, C, LAC

The only question is playing time. He's playing behind Camby so that shouldn't be a major problem. Just needs to stay healthy. He's shown that he's capable of putting up elite numbers. I'm not expecting it, but I can hope. I was looking for rebounds and blocks with ok %'s, so I had a pretty short list of players to pick from.
 
96Mike D
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      Wed, Oct 21, 2009, 10:24
9.02 Mike Bibby, PG, Atl

Bibby has been pretty predictable over the years and offers me a lot of value at this pick. The backcourt is a bit more crowded in Atlanta, and I’m not unrealistic about it, but I’ll take anything close to his career numbers in 3 pointers, assists, steals, and some points thrown in.

My 3 man queue was Bibby, Noah, and Kaman, and iron balls holt took 2 centers. Nice value at this juncture.
 
97xpurmind
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      Wed, Oct 21, 2009, 10:40
9.03 D.J. Augustin, PG,CHA
I wanted a center, but I drafted a sophomore guard. Kaman nor Noah never made it back.

I made this pick a day before the news about Raja Bell broke. The way rookies were flying off the board, and given the stats he was putting up in preseason, I figured I might as well have fun and throw logic out the window. Now he has a chance of getting extended minutes. That might translate into some ridiculous stats. I am talking about 15 ppg, 5 assists, a steal and 2 3pts. On the other hand that might be wishful thinking. We’ll see.

 
98Species
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      Wed, Oct 21, 2009, 11:41
9.04 Mike Conley, PG, MEM

While I had snagged Chalmers with my last pick, I knew I was still short on assists. I had TJ Ford ranked a little higher, but he went on the turn. I liked Conley a lot more than the next tier of PG's, which included Lou Williams and Rodney Stuckey, each of whom are solid, up-and-coming players but they are more scorers trying to play PG, and I really wanted an assist man.

Conley has really fallen too far in this draft in my opinion. Both sets of projections I am using show him with higher value than this. He's not a great shooter (sadly a detail of my team I didn't pay enough attention to) but he looks to get over 100 3's and 100 steals to go with 6+ assists and a nice FT%. I'm not worried about Iverson taking too much from him -- the Grizzlies would be dumb to stunt the growth of their long term PG......I hope!

I had Roy Hibbert next in my queue, which I thought was very early for him....not surprisingly he was snatched up towards the end of this round.
 
99Tosh
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9.05 J.R. Smith, SG, DEN

It was really just a choice between two players. ‘3s Specialist’ JR Smith, or ‘Steals Specialist’ Ronnie Brewer, and I decided to go with Smith. Sure, he’s a douche. But he can shoot the rock, and should finish near the league leaders in 3s Made even after a 7-game suspension to start the season. He may, or may not start for the Nuggets, but he’ll get bountiful minutes. And he gives me solid numbers in the ‘tattoo category’ (I think that’s one of our categories, right?)
 
100WonderB
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9.06 Richard Jefferson, SF, SA

I was looking at RJ for my 8th pick instead of Beasley, so since this was the first time a player actually came back around I guess I should pick him here. He is a solid guy for this late. Maybe a little forgotten in SA but he should still get his stats even if they are somewhat muted over previous years. Maybe not 19ppg but 16 hopefully which is not bad for the 9th round. There were a few guys with potential to do better than RJ but too early to take.
 
101Guru
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      Wed, Oct 21, 2009, 13:33
for tekeballer
9.07 Samuel Dalembert, C, Phi
I needed a true center, hopefully he can provide blocked shots and rebounds.
 
102Uptown Bombers
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9.08 Mike Miller, SG, WAS
Oops. I had a queue of Conley, Chalmers, Bibby, JR Smith, Jefferson, and Beasley. None of them made it back to me. I was making this pick from my phone and sort in a rush without completely thinking it through. Miller was on my radar for the next round, but I couldn’t think of anyone else as a source of 3’s. In retrospect, I would rather have drafted Nate Robinson, as this seems too high for Miller. Either way, Miller could bounce back from a down year and still provide some solid counting stats, so I am hoping for the best.
 
103Guru
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      Wed, Oct 21, 2009, 16:38
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9.09 Nate Robinson, PG, NYK
I managed to get Nate in the 13th round last year and am hoping for similar production this year. Especially as he is playing for a new contract again.

I really wanted to draft Tyreke Evans or Ronnie Brewer as well, but was fairly certain one of them would still be available next round. Of course I was wrong about that.

 
104Guru
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      Wed, Oct 21, 2009, 16:39
for Jason
9.10 Roy Hibbert, C, Ind
This round I wanted J.R. Smith, because of him 3's, and other potentials but he was drafted earlier.

I needed a third center too, so I picked up Hibbert, with whome my blocks are all right I think. Hibbert was very good already last year, but he was in early foul trouble in the games. In the preseason games he showed what he can if he has enough time. I guess he is one of my key picks this year.

 
105Guru
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      Wed, Oct 21, 2009, 16:39
9.11 Ronnie Brewer, SG/SF, Utah
Ronnie Brewer is one guy who’s been sticking out in my rankings for awhile. ESPN’s player rater ranked him as #85 overall last season, and that includes a significant drag in FT%, which, of course, matters not at all to me. So the big question is, would he survive to round 11/12? Perhaps, but not likely, even though he seems to be the type of guy that stays under the radar, lacking a high profile name, and playing in a low profile city. It seems unlikely that someone wouldn’t nab him before pick 131, so it’s probably now or never.

Brewer offers a solid FG%, and since I still need to troll for some 3-point shooters, I’ll need some margin here. I’m hoping for about 15 ppg, and the same 1.7 steals that he’s gotten in each of the last two years. Other than that, 2.5 assists, 4 rebounds, a half block and a half trey complete the profile.
 
106Harverad
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      Wed, Oct 21, 2009, 18:24
9.12 Lou Williams, PG, Phi
Lou Williams was the best PG available at this pick. With Andre Miller in Portland, Williams should be able to perform better than his last year numbers (13 points, 3 assists and 2 rebounds)

10.01 Josh Howard, SF, Dal
I was deciding between Shaq and Josh Howard. Shaq will provide me FG% and Blocks but will hurt FT% category. Josh Howard can average 18 points per game along with decent three's and over a steal per game. It was a tough decision but I decided to go with Josh.

 
107Guru
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      Wed, Oct 21, 2009, 21:38
10.02 Shaquille O’Neal, C, Cle
Once I settled on punting FT%, Shaq has been in my sights. The only question was how long to wait before taking him. While he might last until round 12, I think I had better not get greedy.

Throw out FT%, and I get a player who I rank as #62 overall. Of course, he’s not getting younger, and coming of a year in which he stayed relatively healthy throughout, I may be buying high. But my rankings assume about a 10% dropoff in playing time and stats, and even then, he’s worth a 6th round pick in a FT-free world. And he seems to have stayed in shape during the off-season, as evidenced by his continued presence on the “Shaq vs.” TV series over the summer.
 
108Guru
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      Wed, Oct 21, 2009, 21:39
for Jason
10.03 Tyreke Evans PG SAC
After nine rounds my team was in a terrible position in the area of threes. I would have liked somebody who is good at 3's, and at other categories too (blocks are not counted).

That time I found Evans, who last night had two 3 pointers. Wiht other things I was satisfied already earlier, and it was no question anymore. I guess Evans will be in the fisrt 50 fantasy players at the end of the year, Udrich hasn't any chance to compete with him.

 
109Uptown Bombers
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10.04 Chris Duhon, PG, NYK
This pick was very tough for me. I tried to trade for Evans and Brewer, but wasn't able to make a trade. I would have taken Shaq had he been available as I figured even with him on my team, my team FT% would still have been around .810. And he would have hugely helped my team FG% and rebounding. I considered Jennings, but calculated out his preseason FG% at a putrid .298 on 11 shots per game. That would effectively kill my team in FG%, which I had been working so hard to keep reasonable despite all the 3PTM I had been accumulating. And I wasn't entirely sure that he would get the starting PG position (of course he managed to shoot 6-13 in a game later that night that essentially clinched the starting job for him).

I needed one more forward, one more center and one more utility player. So I decided to draft the "best" remaining player and sort out the positions later. Or I could draft an unbalanced team and try to make trades during the year. I considered Hill, Odom, Kenyon Martin, Haywood, Love, Haslem and several other high rebounding players and drafted ???Chris Duhon???. I figured if I took him it would make my team virtually unbeatable in assists and 3PTM. And I felt another run on PGs coming up. And he is good value in the tenth round. I do expect his minutes will be more limited to start this year, but feel he should be able to put up 11 ppg, 7 assists/game, 1.6 3PTM/game and 1 steal/game (similar to last year) in the uptempo NY offense. If my team performs as expected he could always be traded. I briefly considered Iverson, but he seemed too risky at this point.

 
110Uptown Bombers
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10.05 Rodney Stuckey, PG, DET
Stuckey had a pretty good year as a first time starting PG. There is lots of hope that he will continue to develop his game this year. He shoots a miserable FG% and doesn’t guarantee me the 3’s I want, but what player at this point in the draft gives you everything? Stuckey has "upside” and that’s what drafts are supposed to be about. 15, 5 and 3.5 is not out of the question. Throw in a steal a game and the potential for increased 3’s and I’m happy with this pick.
 
111tekeballer
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10.06 Andrei Kirilenko SF UTA
I'm hoping AK47 returns to his old form filling up the stat sheet. He offers more than one blocked shot and steal per game.
 
114WonderB
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      Wed, Oct 21, 2009, 23:41
10.07 Courtney Lee SG, NJN

I did a lot of looking around for this pick. It’s getting tough to wade through the junk. I had it ready by the time it was my turn but I still hesitated for a while before hitting the Draft Player button. In the end I had a hard time deciding between Lee and Luol Deng. Again I was looking at deng for my pick before in the 9th and he made it back around like RJ did for me the last pick. I thought I should just go at him like I did for RJ then but, Lee kind of stuck out at me. Shaq called him a “star, star, star”. Shaq also had high praise for Wade but I don’t have any illusions that he will be that good. Lee strikes me as a good player on a team where they didn’t need him to shoot or do very much. Now he goes to the nets where there is opportunity and shots available for the taking. If Deng makes it another round I’ll grab him then as he has gone that late in a couple A leagues.
 
115Tosh
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      Wed, Oct 21, 2009, 23:46
10.08 Jonny Flynn PG MIN

Flynn has been given the starting PG position as a rookie. Some pre-season injuries for MIN has put even more pressure on Flynn to perform. He’ll be battling with Ramon Sessions for playing time. He’s a little on the small side, so hopefully he won't be overwhelmed by the physicality of the game. 13-15 points, 5-6 assists, and about a steal+ is all I am hoping for.
 
116xpurmind
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      Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 02:07
For Species
10.09 Jermaine O'Neal, C, MIA
With my PG situation handled at the last round of picks (Chalmers/Conley) I turned to rebounding and blocked shots with this go around. Thankfully my instincts about the value of these players was correct, and I had my pick of some shot blockers.

Jermaine is only a 30-minute a game type of player these days, but that's okay. He's still decent from the floor, good at the line (relatively), can board but most importantly he still blocks 2 shots a game - something he has done for 9 straight seasons. I don't need the 2006 version of Jermaine to make this pick worthwhile....I just need 70 games at what he did last year (13PPG, 6+ REB, 2 BLK) and I'm thrilled......and there is some upside there as well.

 
117xpurmind
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      Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 02:10
10.10 Luol Deng, SF, CHI

Needing a center, I considered Haywood, Brad Miller and Frye here. I Figured I would get one of them back on the turn. Deng has been hampered with injuries, but when healthy, he provides a good source of points with average contributions in steals and decent percentages.
 
118Mike D
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10.11 Brendan Haywood, C, Was

No one jumped out at me at this pick. Decided on Haywood, who in his last full season averaged 10.6 points, 7.2 rebounds and 1.7 blocks. Not bad numbers at this juncture if he can return to form.
 
119Guru
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      Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 09:43
for holt
10.12 Jamal Crawford, PG/SG, ATL
Checking out my spreadsheet, I was most in need of 3's, assists, and points. Crawford can help me in all 3 of those cats. Looks like he'll be in the 6th man role so his numbers might drop off slightly, but if it weren't for that he wouldn't be available to me this late in the draft, so great! Not in love with the fg% but gotta do what I gotta do.

Side note, does anyone else find excel from office 2007 to be extremely "buggy"? I used to have no probs with excel but this version is driving me crazy. I have to double click some cells that contain formulas to get them to display the proper numbers. Sometimes I have to close and reopen to get the calculations to update. It's just crap. I'd rather use Open Office. How could Microsoft screw up spreadsheet software? I'm sorry that I actually purchased this garbage.

11.01 Randy Foye, PG, WAS
Same as with Crawford, trying to shore up my 3's assists, and points. Foye is a good boost in all 3. Washington has a lot more talent at PG and SG than Minnesota did, so Foye will most likely see fewer minutes, but if Arenas goes down Foye will get the nod as starting PG, and there seems to be some chance that he could start at SG at some point. For now it looks like he'll be the 6th man. Same story as Crawford, if it weren't for being the 6th man, he wouldn't be available for me to draft, so I don't care.

Dunleavy was tempting, he was next in my queue after Foye.

 
120Mike D
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      Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 10:06
11.02 Rip Hamilton, SG/SF, Det

He has his starting job back and should play lots of minutes even in a 3 guard lineup at time. He can still score and shoot Free Throws, and got close to a three-pointer a game last year, which may have lowered his FG% slightly. Also can play a few positions for me which could be a slight bonus.
 
121xpurmind
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      Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 10:47
11.03 Brad Miller, C, CHI

I had to get a center at this point. Not much of a selection. I was leaning more towards Haywood, but he was taken at the turn. Miller might be ancient, but he's in a contract year. That might do wonders to his line and health.
 
122Species
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      Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 11:35
11.04 Chris Andersen PF DEN

....and my master plan falls into place perfectly. In round 8 I devised the plan to get 2 PG's to shore up assists and steals, while waiting to get some shotblocking specialists in later rounds because the ADP's seemed to support my theory. This worked out well as I got Jermaine O'Neal in round 10 and then The Birdman in round 11.

It's impossible to figure out where to draft a guy like this. I'm down to filling Utility spots so it's not like I have a positional need. But I know I am short on blocks and Andersen was an absolute madman the last 3 months of the season last year. This 2.5 blocks per game average - judging by my recollection from the time I plucked him off of the waiver wire - is very diluted because once he got on a roll I swear it was over 3 blocks a game when he got the PT. As a fan favorite and having his role so well defined, I am hopeful he will pick up where he left off and push me closer to the top third in the category.

Of course this "Master Plan" is predicated on whether my instincts about my top 6-7 picks giving me a strong base in scoring are accurate. I really wish I would have had the time to run a spreadsheet or draft tracking program to better judge my team's strengths during the draft.

 
123Tosh
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11.05 - Marvin Williams, SF, ATL

The #2 draft choice in 2005, Williams has never lived up to his potential. But in his defense, he had career highs in rebounds last season, and added a 3-point shot to his game. My team is a little light in rebounds right now, and at age 23, Williams still has upside. Now he just needs to find it. 14-16 points, 6-8 rebounds, a 3pt, and hopefully a steal and a block are reasonable projections.
 
124WonderB
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      Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 12:15
11.06 Channing Frye, C, Pho

Going to the well again for another Phoenix player. My third. It’s a pretty deep well especially if there are going to be a lot of 143 point games in regulation. That’s a lot of stats to go around and I’m betting Frye picks up a decent portion. I think I’ll take G hill if he comes around too.
Doh, florian didn’t let me have all the Pho action.
 
125Guru
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      Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 14:16
for tekeballer
11.07 Francisco Garcia, SG, Sac
Garcia offers help in all areas, more than one blocked shot and more than a steal game, 14 points per game. I hoping his assists per game will improve.
 
126Guru
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      Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 14:16
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11.08 Kendrick Perkins C BOS
Perkins gets rebounds and blocks shots. There were not many guys left that did both of those things well. The frontcourt in Boston is more crowded this year than last, but Perkins seems to have carved a role for himself on the team and I don’t expect his production to drop off substantially. Sadly, this also means there is little hope, barring injury to other players, of any substantial growth in his numbers, which for a young player is unfortunate.
 
127Guru
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      Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 14:16
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11.09 Grant Hill SF PHO
Grant Hill was surprisingly ranked 40th overall in the Yahoo game last year. He doesn't do anything particularly well, but gets 12-14 ppg, 5 rebounds, 2 assist, 1 steal, .5 blocks and the occasional 3PTM while shooting 50% from the floor. I expect he'll manage to replicate that performance in the uptempo Phoenix offense. I don't think he manage to replicate playing 82 games again, but over the last three years he has managed to average 72 games/year. If he manages to play 65+ games this year I'll be happy.

I considered picking up Iverson (but already had 8 guard eligible players on my team), considered Odom and Kenyon Martin for their combination of steals and rebounds and considered Love, Haslem and McDyess as I still needed a center.

 
128Guru
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      Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 14:16
for Jason
11.10 Anthony Morrow SF GSW
The next two rounds my targeted players were A. Morrow, B. Jennings, J. Harden, C. Brewer and D. Gallinari.

Because I was still in trouble in 3's, I decided on Morrow. His preaseason games were fantastic: big numbers of points and threes, with an amazing FG%. Yes, I know he is not a starter, but it's enough for me from the backup stage too.

 
129Guru
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      Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 14:17
11.11 Kirk Hinrich, PG, Chi
Surprised to see Hinrich still available. I know he’s relegated to a backup role, but still expect him to get enough minutes to be of decent value, possibly even top-100 value. Hoping for something like 11 pts, 4 assists, 2.5 rebs, 1.5 steals, and 1.5 treys.

Not a sexy pick, but a good value at pick 131 – and he complements my needs nicely.
 
130Harverad
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      Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 18:07
11.12 Tyson Chandler

Hoping that Tyson Chandler will provide good rebound numbers.

12.01 Ramon Sessions

Was hoping to pick up Hinrich but Guru got him before my pick. I am still lacking Assists and I am hoping that Sessions may help me in that category
 
131Guru
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      Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 18:09
12.02 Rasheed Wallace, C, Bos
I was looking for someone to help boost my 3-point shooting. My short list was Wallace, Nocioni, and Battier. I decided to go with Sheed, in spite of his age and new situation in Boston. It’s hard to imagine that he’s dropped all the way to round 12. I’m thinking that he’s got enough in the tank to pay the 12th round freight.

Just keep playin’ hard, my man…
 
132Guru
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      Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 21:45
for Jason
12.03 Brandon Jennings, PG, Mil
Jennings is the third PG option of my team behind Miller and Evans. I needed one more PG, Jennings or Curry seemed the last real valuable possibility for this position. I have already had two players from GSW, so I drafted Jennings.

I guess he will be the starter in Milwaukee, and I am sure he will be get at least 30 minutes per game. And it is enough to be productive enough. I am waiting from him a lot of assists, steals, and I hope he will throw above 1.0 threes per game.

 
134Uptown Bombers
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      Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 22:05
for Florian
12.04 Lamar Odom, PF, LAL
I still needed a center at this point, but I really wasn't thrilled with options at this point (Haslem, McDyess, etc.) I was going to draft Love and knew he was scheduled for surgery on Tuesday, but couldn't find any information on how the surgery had gone (and it was Wednesday night). That really made me wonder if something had gone wrong with the surgery and he was going to be out longer than 6-8 weeks. So I went with Odom. As it turned out Love's surgery had just been delayed until Thursday.

Odom is now coming off the bench and he only managed to average 9.5 ppg, 6.5 boards, 2.4 assists and 1 steal and 1 block while coming off the bench last year. Even if he averages those numbers he is a worth a 12th round pick. However he is backing up Gasol, who has missed an average of 14 games/year in the last 5 years and the apparently brittle Bynum, who has missed at least 30 games/year over the last two years. Since he averaged 14ppg and 11 rebounds/game as a starter last year his averages for the year should at least be 11 ppg, 7.5 rebounds/game, 2.5 assists, 1 steal and 1 block.

 
135Uptown Bombers
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      Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 22:05
12.05 James Harden, SG, OKC
Iverson is still available here? I passed on him in round 10 and felt I needed to go big in round 11. I’m a little embarrassed that I almost jumped the gun on Iverson before when obviously no one else thinks he is worth that high of a pick. After taking Stuckey over Iverson and assuming Iverson would go, I started looking at other guards I expected to be available and became enamored with James Harden’s potential. Harden is a physical combo guard and while it is unclear whether he will start right away, I expect that he will end up teaming with Westbrook to make up a pretty versatile backcourt. It seems Harden has the potential to do a little bit of everything except for blocks. How much of everything he does will boil down to playing time. Even with that lingering question, I choose youth again over Iverson.
 
136WonderB
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      Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 23:16
for tekeballer
12.06 Kevin Love, PF, Min
When Love comes back after his broken hand he should put up consistent double doubles.
 
137WonderB
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      Thu, Oct 22, 2009, 23:17
12.07 Chris Douglas-Roberts, SG, NJN

CDR. Not someone I thought I’d pick when I woke up this morning. He had another decent game tonight and looks like the starting SF. He currently has PG,SG. Since I only have two PG eligibles CDR’s yahoo versatility will come in handy assuming he ends up being worth keeping. Just keep doing what you are doing now and I’ll be happy. Now I have two NJN players with questions about how involved they will be. Am I betting against myself. As I write this JianLian is still available – what if I take him in the 13th?? Is that stupid. Probably but somebody else has to play on that team besides Harris and Lopez.
Tayshaun prince came so close to being on my team. And was taken next. This talk of diminished role and three guard system scared me off.
 
138Tosh
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      Fri, Oct 23, 2009, 00:39
12.08 Tayshaun Prince SF DET

Prince is very consistent. He has averaged 13–15 points, 4–6 rebounds, and 2–4 assists while playing all 82 games in each of the last five seasons. He’s a starter, and contributes across all categories. These facts all mean that he’s a solid round 12 pick.
 
139Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Oct 23, 2009, 01:36
12.09 Yi Jianlian, PF, NJN

Yi looks to be settled into a starting gig with the Nets. He has the chance to put up some very useful numbers if he can live up to his potential. This is an upside pick in the 12th without burning an important pick.
 
140xpurmind
      ID: 44802419
      Fri, Oct 23, 2009, 01:59
12.10 Andres Nocioni, SF, SAC

I wanted Rasheed Wallace here for his blocks and threes. But once Guru took him, I strongly considered Carl Landry, Azubuike, Parker and Brandon Rush. I needed threes and Nocioni was one the most rounded players with guaranteed playing time, now that Garcia is out, that were left on the board.
 
141Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 41831612
      Fri, Oct 23, 2009, 09:08
12.11 Corey Maggette, SF/PF, GS

Lots of intriguing talent still available. Decided on Maggette, who appears in line for big minutes in an up-tempo environment. Always one of the better FT shooters, he hopefully can maintain a decent FG%, and scores points the moment he steps on the court. May not get as many steals as he did when he was younger, but helps there too, and a little in the rebound department.
 
142Mike D
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      ID: 41831612
      Fri, Oct 23, 2009, 09:34
for holt
12.12 Stephen Curry, PG, GSW

As with my previous 2 picks, I was looking to boost assists and 3's, and hopefully points scored. late rd 12 seems like a good time to take a shot on a rookie starting PG. hopefully he gets his shot straightened out so he keeps his job and doesn't kill my fg %.
 
143Mike D
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      ID: 41831612
      Fri, Oct 23, 2009, 09:35
for holt
13.01 Shane Battier, SF, HOU

Just taking a stab at some more 3's. Kind of wish I had just taken Dunleavy instead. There is nothing spectacular about Battier. He does offer close to 1 block per game, I suppose.
 
144Mike D
      Leader
      ID: 41831612
      Fri, Oct 23, 2009, 09:36
13.02 Allen Iverson, PG/SG, Mem

Who would have thought Iverson would last until the 146th pick in the draft? Then again, who would have thought he’d be walking down Beale Street? I’m taking him for what I know he will do, which is score, get some steals, and get a few assists. There are some people predicting Memphis to be the surprise team in the league this year based on their combination of youth and experienced free agent pick ups. I like the value of this pick, and the potential it carries, this late in the draft. Big upside and little risk.
 
145Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Oct 23, 2009, 12:41
for xpdurmind:

13.03 Kelenna Azubuike, SF, GSW
He made the top 75 in Yahoo last year, but with the new faces in GS, his minutes might be very limited. That was my rationale for not picking him earlier and the reason why he dropped this far. He's the poster boy for per minute production as his averages/ minute were consistent in his 3 years in the league.

I almost drafted Carl Landry with his .575 FG%. But at the last minute I read somewhere that Nellie trusts him ensuring him of minutes. I am looking for 100 3's, points in the teens and 5 rebounds/g.

 
146Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Oct 23, 2009, 12:46
13.03 Mike Dunleavy Jr, SF, IND

I know his knee is shot, but in the 13th round to get a guy who put up a 19PPG, 5.2RPG, 3.5AST, 1 STL, 2 THREES a game with 47/83 FG/FT percentages in 2007 was worth a shot. Taking a risk like this limits my early season flexibility - and I will run behind in GP's compared to the Mike D speedboat strategy - but the payoff on the other end of this in mid-December-ish could be huge.
 
147Tosh
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      Fri, Oct 23, 2009, 12:48
13.05 Al Thornton SF LAC Tosh

A third-year pro, Thornton is much like my last draft pick (Tayshaun Prince). He starts and contributes across all categories. The biggest difference is that he is 4 years younger … which means to me there is potential upside. Draft away!
 
148WonderB
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      ID: 241053812
      Fri, Oct 23, 2009, 13:42
13.06 Carl Landry, PF, Hou

It’s getting thin. When I made the pick before this one I had 8 guys in my queue. all of them were gone here. So I’m scrambling again. the starters that are left are not exciting to say the least. Good 6th men will probably do better then a lot of them at this point. Landry fits that idea I think. with the thin front court in Houston he should get a chance to shine and he has done well in preseason.
 
149Guru
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      Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 15:30
for tekeballer
13.07 Drew Gooden, C, Dal
Gooden should provide 12 points and 7 or 8 rebounds for Dallas.
 
150Guru
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      Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 15:31
for Uptown
13.08 Ryan Gomes, F, MIN
Gomes was a viable option last year to plug in here and there. Now with the injury to Kevin Love, he stands to see some good minutes this year as well and maybe an increase in rebounds. He knocks down some 3’s, which is a team need for me at this point.
 
151Guru
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      Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 15:32
for Florian
13.09 Udonis Haslem C MIA
I still only had one center, so I really needed a second. Haslem was the best of a fairly similar bunch. He seems to have the least competition for playing time as Miami seems to want to make Beasley a SF and O'Neal will likely miss his usual 15-30 games, allowing Haslem to play as a center as well. He should average 10 ppg and 8 rebounds on 50% shooting.

I considered McDyess, but really think Popovich will limit his minutes in the regular season to keep him fresh for the playoffs. Popovich may even replace him with the rebounding machine that is DeJuan Blair for most of the regular season.

 
152Guru
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      Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 15:33
for Jason
13.10 Corey Brewer SG MIN
Brewer will be the starter SG in Minnesota. It is enough for me in the 13th round, but it is a lottery pick a bit, because of his different production from game to game. He has ability to fill the stats, but sometimes not much to look at.

Two years ago I drafted Brewer because of his production in the preseason. As far as I remember he threw 30 points in one of the games. And in the middle of the season I had to drop him. Now I think it's time to give him a chance again. One more reason to try him - Love's absence in the first month.

 
153Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 15:34
13.11 Brandon Rush, SG/SF, Ind
Should get an ample uptick in playing time while Dunleavy recovers, giving him a chance to show why that should continue if/when Dunleavy returns to full strength. I wanted some additional 3-point support, and Rush should provide this along with a smattering of other stats. Nice upside if he can play his way into a full-time role.

My backup choice was Gallinari.

 
154Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 15:34
for Harverad
13.12 Ronny Turiaf, C, GSW
Turiaf was one of only seven players to block two shots per game last season and as I was still behind on blocks, I decided to pick him.

14.01 Ramon Sessions, PG, Min
I am trying to compensate for not drafting a premier PG in the first few rounds. Sessions is going to share minutes with Flynn but he is the only PG who can help me in assists and I was glad to have him at this pick.
 
155Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 15:35
14.02 Brandon Bass, SF/PF, Orl
Should get plenty of court time for the first ten games while Rashard Lewis is suspended. After that, we’ll play it by ear. I could have used the same rationale to pick Ryan Anderson instead, but decided to supplement my “big” stats after chasing treys for the last three rounds.
 
156Guru
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      Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 15:35
for Jason
14.03 Andray Blatche PF WAS
Because Jamison will miss around 10-15 games, Andray Blatche will get off to a solid start this season while filling in (Oberto is not a real competitor for him). I think he will get enough minutes later too to be a strong fantasy player.

Blatche is very good in rebounds, and it will be an important factor for me, but he is good in assists, steals and blocks too.

 
157Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 15:36
for Florian
14.04 Kenyon Martin PF DEN
I was considering him in the 11th round, so taking him in the 14th seemed to make sense. I personally really don't like Martin. He's really overpaid ($17 million this year; not that I'd argue if someone was stupid enough to pay me that kind of money), but actually seems to think he deserves to paid that kind of money. I just don't like his attitude. However in the 14th round he seems to make sense. He'll get me 12 ppg, 6 rebounds, 1.3 steals and 1 block when I plug him into the lineup.
 
158Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 15:36
for Uptown
14.05 Rudy Fernandez, SG, POR
A crowded roster in Portland makes playing time a concern, but Rudy had a decent rookie campaign and I have a feeling Portland will be committed to getting him consistent playing time. He is hurt right now, but I don’t think I’ll need to play right away. I am hunting for cheap 3’s, and those seem to be Rudy’s greatest fantasy contribution, so I will take the chance.
 
159Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 15:37
for tekeballer
14.06 Jeff Teague, PG, Atl
This pick is a total flier just in case something happens to Mike Bibby. Teague has looked real good in the preseason.
 
160Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 15:38
for WonderB
14.07 Peja Stojakovic, SF, NOR

Hmmm, I wonder how many games I will get out of him. 2007-8 season isn’t that long ago and a return to those numbers isn’t that hard. That would be well worth the 14th round. He may not start but I can still see him getting 30 min. Only 25mins might not do but we will see what happens. I’m doing pretty well in threes if he does work out.
I wonder if Gallinari will still be available at my 15th. He is going undrafted at this point in some A leagues but I was looking at him. Or varejao but I hope I can find someone with more potential. I figure that’s about all you can look for down here is a slime hope of potential. Then again Peja doesn’t really fit that mold so why did I pick him. Vicious cycle again.
 
161Guru
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      Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 15:39
for Tosh
14.08 Marreese Speights C PHI
I've only got 2 center-eligible players, and one of them is Greg Oden, so I had better draft a third. I don't really know anything about Speights, except that he is currently the highest rated C on my sheet, and that since I created the sheet, Speights has had a solid pre-season and would likely be moved up. Maybe he'll be a starter sooner than later.
 
162Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 15:40
for Species
14.09 Anthony Parker, SG, CLE
Honestly I was totally half-assing this back end of the draft. I had gone through the entire list of available players via Kafenatid and threw a bunch of players into my queue for picking later. Had I had my head out of my ass and taken the time to look, I would have taken preseason standouts/temporary injury replacements Mareese Speights, Brandon Bass or Andray Blatche instead.

It's possible the Cavs will leave him in as the starter in order to let Delonte West bring some spark off of the bench......who knows.



for xpdurmind
14.10 Antonio McDyess, PF, SAN

I needed to address 2 glaring weaknesses:1.My roster lacks depth at the C position and the pickings are thin at this point. Even with Blair around, McDyess will pull down a fair amount of rebounds and the 1 blk a game I am looking for from him.
 
163Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 15:40
for Mike D
14.11 Jarrett Jack, PG/SG, Tor

Jack had a strong season for the Pacers last season and got a fat new deal from the Raptors. That should mean good playing time, both as a part-time off-guard alongside Jose Calderon and as a backup point guard as well. Good upside pick at this point in the draft.

Cheap source of assists, some scoring, steals, good percentages especially FT%, and a guy used to playing off the bench and producing.
 
164Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 15:42
for holt
14.12 Danilo Gallinari SF NYK
late rd upside pick. I don't think Gallinari does anything on the court other than shoot the ball. He offers 3's, good %'s, and hopefully points. I just hope he produces early. seems every year I cut my upside draftees shortly before they go off.
15.01 Zydrunas Ilgauskas C CLE
Slim pickings here. if shaq goes down he could offer decent blocks and rebounds. if not, I'd expect very mediocre production. Sounds like he plans to retire after this season. That's inspiring.
 
165Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 15:43
for Mike D
15.02 Hakim Warrick, SF/PF, Mil

The crowded frontcourt in Milwaukee just opened up a bit via injury. Warrick has been a pretty decent scorer throughout his career, he grabs some boards, and he gets to the line a lot, which is good and bad in that he shoots in the low 70s. Whether starting or off the bench, I expect Warrick to make an impact right away, and if he doesn’t, no risk since he’s my 15th round pick.
 
166Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 15:44
for xpdurmind
15.03 Jrue Holiday, PG, PHI

My roster is forward heavy. Only 4 guards and 2 of them are injury prone. What was I thinking? Jrue was a very good defensive player at UCLA which should earn him more floor time. But it has been difficult for him to adjust to the pace in the NBA and in hindsight, I might have throw this pick back in the pond. For now I’ll just keep him on the radar for next year.

I considered TMac here, but I thought I should keep my IS clear because of the risk I took with Arenas.
 
167Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 15:45
for Species
15.04 Tracy McGrady, SF, HOU

I figured gambling on McGrady was a worthwhile shot in the dark. As I write this now, I forgot about RIHC's IS policy, and so now I feel even better about this pick as I can stash him on IS and pick up someone off of the waiver wire.

McGrady does seem like he is toast.....but for a last-round flier, maybe I'd get 30 good games out of him for the cost of a last round pick and the use of one of my IS spots.
 
168Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 15:49
for Tosh
15.05 Chase Budinger SG HOU
I wanted T-Mac, but Species nabbed him right before me. I don't know anything about this guy, but he's had a decent pre-season and maybe will get a little time on the court with the HOU injuries. I'll re-evaluate this pick after about his third game.
 
169Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 15:49
for WonderB
15.06 Andersen Verajao, PF, Cle

So gallinari was gone and I tried hard to find someone other than varejao but in the end I kind of gave up. Sefolosha, derozan, krstic, mason jr and a few other starters and 6th men were looked at. No one looked to be significant but I’m sure there is a missed gem in there somewhere.
 
170Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 15:50
for tekeballer
15.07 Steve Blake, PG, Por
I forgot that Portland has Andre Miller and was wondering why Blake fell this far, he provided me with good production as a third PG.
 
171Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 15:50
for Uptown
15.08 Demar Derozan, SF, TOR
A total shot in the dark. He is expected to start but likely will not be a fantasy contributor this season. Maybe he plays better than I expect.
 
172Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 15:51
for Florian
15.09 Dejuan Blair PF SAS
He is a rebounding monster. He's averaging 14 ppg and 8 rebounds per game in the preseason, while playing a mere 18 minutes per game. He should be able to find at least that many minutes in the regular season, especially since he's got McDyess ahead of him and SA will want to rest McDyess for the playoffs. And Duncan will get some games off as well. The question is whether he can possibly continue to put up anyone resembling that kind of production in the regular season.
 
173Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 15:51
for Jason
15.10 Julian Wright SF NOR
f Wright will get enough playing time as a starter, he can help me in rebounds.

This round I targeted to pick up Speights or Blair, but Species and Florian wanted them erlier.

 
174Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 15:52
15.11 Ryan Anderson, PF/C, Orl
My second Rash Lewis fill-in. I start out using them both while Rash is suspended, and then see who merits enough playing time thereafter.
 
175Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 25, 2009, 15:52
for Harverad
15.12 Hasheem Thabeet, C, Mem
I am still lacking in blocks and assists and I decided to pick Hasheem for his blocks. I hope he can get enough minutes in order to produce decent fantasy stats.