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Subject: Kentucky Indians GMD team -- Trading period 1!


  Posted by: ki @ work - [2836246] Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 17:38

we are off and running.... Starting with some old timers like myself...

Dave R, Guru and Gmoney

kentuckyindians@yahoo.com... shoot me an email I I will get a group list started... always open for suggestions on where to draft next.. You three were very easy picks for me!
 
1money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Mon, Nov 23, 2009, 18:21
Yeah, I'm not the last one picked in dodgeball! LOL
 
2Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Tue, Nov 24, 2009, 16:33
Hey, this is my first year in GMD. What precisely happens from this point on? Do you need me to e-mail you as well?
 
3Maineacs
      ID: 18901915
      Tue, Nov 24, 2009, 21:15
O'Brien not showing any love or pt for Hibbert in spite of him outplaying Foster/Jones combined in half the playing time. Have the cash to go Hibbert to Lopez tomorrow. Pretty good upgrade. Only move planned.
 
4G
      ID: 441412322
      Tue, Nov 24, 2009, 22:08
Hey KI - thanks for the pick. Posting is tough for me during the day on this site but I check in with games and results most nights. Looking forward to a fun season. Email to follow tomorrow. Off to play basketball right now.

G
 
5money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Tue, Nov 24, 2009, 23:01
I have Durant and Westbrook to deal with. Looking at Wade, Carmelo or Rondo (maybe 2 of the 3).
 
7money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Tue, Nov 24, 2009, 23:12
Is the 1 in 5 worth Lebron right now? Yeah, 12/2 starts a month-long hold, but that gap scares me. Then again...
 
8money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Tue, Nov 24, 2009, 23:28
Let me re-phrase my statement from above so I can learn something (lol). Is it more efficient than it looks to just lock Lebron up now, rather than wait for 12/2?
 
9kentucky indians
      ID: 310371711
      Tue, Nov 24, 2009, 23:30
Welcome aboard to all of you. Sorry, Ive not been able to post a welcome earlier. Today I had to "catch up" at work because yesterday I was sidetracked with the draft. I am the rookie GMD manager so we will all learn together. I am counting on all of you to let me know where we go from here. My private email is above and in the past a lot of teams have taken their discussion offline. I respect and welcome your private comments there and posted my email there because that is how I've seen teams operate in the past. I think that part of the "value" of GMD has been to encourage further discussion on the web site to help new players learn how to play this game better. So Phatsow (re post#4) where we go from here is we post our thoughts about how we are managing our teams in this thread so we can learn and bounce ideas off each other about how we are managing our teams.... I feel very blessed to have Dave R and Guru on our team; they have been two of the BEST for a very long time. Gmoney and I have have been playing quite a while as well. I play very similar to G; there are times during the season that I spend a lot of time playing fantasy hoops and there are times during the season I spend very little time playing. I have four kids between 15 and 9 and they are REAL life and this is a hobby! Don't take this too seriously! Contribute what you can. Those of you that I do not know, I am am looking forward to getting to know you this season and this team is as much yours as it is mine. PLEASE have fun playing!
KI
 
10money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Tue, Nov 24, 2009, 23:35
I would much prefer to email questions to help me get better in this game. Once we get a group emial set up, if anyone does NOT want to get my questions, let me know. Thanks again and I hope I help this team dominate!
 
12kentucky indians
      ID: 310371711
      Tue, Nov 24, 2009, 23:46
money4later,
You are looking like just what I hoped for in the number 4 pick!!! GREAT discussion questions! Wait... opps... I picked you fifth. And please Fatsow take no offense.
Strategy wise, I think how long you lock up Lebron depends on how trade wealthy you are. Locking in players for long periods of time helps you to conserve trades. By the end of the season you have to hold everyone on your roster for an average of 17 days. If you lock in Lebron early it could help you have more trades to take advantage of short term schedule density or short term money gainers.
 
13Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Tue, Nov 24, 2009, 23:46
Money4later, I'm making the Durant => LBJ move tomorrow. No matter what, I'll want him 12/2. So unless you have another in to him in a week, why grab him tomorrow. I'm willing to take 3 Lebron games over 4 of just about anyone else and save the trade.

$ wise, he's just shed some coin. He'll get a bump tomorrow, lose some or all of it back by 12/2. I wouldn't be surprised to see him get some buys Tuesday or even Monday next week. But Lebron is one of those guys you don't worry to much about the money, until his schedule really goes bad.

Besides, Rondo and Wade's schedules are only 10 days long, and I'd bet you'll be moving either for Lebron in a week anyway.

Maybe you can change your team name to aTrade4later ;)
 
14money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Tue, Nov 24, 2009, 23:52
12/13 - very cool. Depending on how Hughes does (yikes), I'll only need to make the 2 trades this week, banking my other 2 for later. Thanks again
 
15money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Wed, Nov 25, 2009, 00:35
Question - after getting King James, is it better to get a cheapie (under 3 mil) or get the best for the 6.6 mil I have to spend? It can be at any position. I know RV should be top priority...
 
16G
      ID: 441412322
      Wed, Nov 25, 2009, 00:49
Just back from hoops. It looks like it was quite the night with some interesting action. On my GMD team, I gambled on buying Monta Ellis for 5 games instead of LBJ for 3 and so far so good.

On a couple other teams I have Durant and I purposely held him for LBJ. I agree with Dave R 100 percent that his 3 games should be close to 4 from just about anyone else and you save a trade.

Not sure if anyone else has Westbrook but that is my only trade until later in the week. With no money in the bank I am completely at a loss for what to do with him. With my one other planned move it can be anyone under $5 mil and I have 100% flexibility so that isn't an issue. I also don't need money for moves next week because I will make two moves when it is time to add LBJ.
 
17G
      ID: 441412322
      Wed, Nov 25, 2009, 01:29
I am going to clarify an earlier statement about Durant --> LBJ. Today I found a way to add Monta Ellis and only miss 3 LBJ games. I am looking at Ellis as a long term hold so for those with Durant, If you could find a cheaper player to add this week with 4 games, you may make money on that player and 4 @ 35-37 pts in stats would come close close to LBJ for 3 @ 50. Of course the only way to justify that is by looking at your roster and saying the following week you have a way into LBJ via Dirk or most likely two other players. One would become LBJ and one would be a cheapie. If you don't see an easy way to LBJ then next week then Durant to LBJ for sure.

EX: On one of my other teams, I am buying Ellis from Durant and carrying 3.5+ mil through the week hoping Ellis can match LBJ 4 to 3. That helps cover a guard spot and I have M Gasol and Dirk to move next week as my way to LBJ.
 
18Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Wed, Nov 25, 2009, 01:32
9/12

Yeah, when I played this game two years ago, I got WAY too involved with it and quit because it was driving me crazy. I don't have as much of a life as having four kids but I'm trying to take it easier. Think I've got a much healthier attitude about it now. (Though my CDR hold was pretty scary! Worked out in the end). I'm trying to be patient to a fault and its tended to be the right call (except for Corey Brewer UGH!). I got Lebron two weeks ago intending on holding him through this gap and I believe its paying off. Extra trades let you dump guys like Hibbert early when you have to.

Peace
 
19G
      ID: 441412322
      Wed, Nov 25, 2009, 01:35
LOL, lots of kids on this team. The plus side of that is I spend many nights at home after 8:30 :)
 
20Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Wed, Nov 25, 2009, 07:12
G, I'm not in love with a Dirk to LBJ move. That move would ( should ) be done 12/6, meaning you'll miss any early gains on Lebron as 12/2 is the initial buy date.

Unless you want to throw away a Dirk game, something I'm not about to do.

If you go that route, you might make money on someone now, but miss it with Lebron on the other end.
 
21Maineacs
      ID: 18901915
      Wed, Nov 25, 2009, 07:38
I think we all have Hibbert. Holding? I have enough cash for Lopez (ankle?) or Nene and am leaning to Nene. Leaves me cash poor but don't see a comparable cheaper choice.
 
23G
      ID: 441412322
      Wed, Nov 25, 2009, 08:53
Having an entry 12/4 would be best.
 
24Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Nov 25, 2009, 09:04
Will be moving Durant to LBJ today, and then must figure out what to do with Hibbert.

The two most likely options are Louis Williams or Joakim Noah. I'd move to Williams today, but wait until tomorrow for Noah.

I'm leaning toward Noah, as he has a lower ownership base and a slightly higher TSNP/G average. It does mean I'll take today's price hit on Hibbert, though.

Another possibility is Curry, although it's hard to trust anyone on GS, and I have enough cash to upgrade.

This leaves me with 3 trades, and no one else that must be moved this week - although Jason Thompson is getting worrisome. Hopefully, home games vs. the Knicks and Nets are just what the Dr. ordered.
 
25money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Wed, Nov 25, 2009, 09:19
Durant > Lebron is done. At this second, I have Westbrook to Nene, but it only leaves me with 170k in the bank. Looked at some other choices:
Gooden - solid, but not sure when Damp is coming back.
Ilyasova - solid and cheap but Redd is back. How much with Ily's minutes be cut?
Morrow - bad enough I have one Nelsonite (Curry), Not sure I could stomach another.
R Gay - differential???
Noah - 2 in 7, then his sched gets better. Hmmm...
 
26G
      ID: 441412322
      Wed, Nov 25, 2009, 09:51
Guru, I think Williams has saturated and will start to see sells later this week. Noah will obviously get bought on Monday so getting in early may not be bad.

$4ltr, I would agree with your evaluation of Gooden Ilyasova and Morrow who most likely are all getting big minutes because of injuries and the return of Dampier, Luc, 1/2 the GSW team could hurt the long term stability. Gay has been pretty impressive if you can hold thru two 3 game weeks when lots of teams have 4 games during that time. Noah should probably be in the mix somehow.
 
27Skip to My Lou
      ID: 48943810
      Wed, Nov 25, 2009, 11:28
Hello gentlemen, I'm proud to be in such esteemed company.

Unfortunately, my team is a bit of a wreck at the moment. Two weeks ago, I got hit by the injury bug, which required the burning of trades that were being reserved for, well ... right now. Without the luxury of those trades, I'm stuck with 3 OKC guys, Hibbert and Toney Douglas. Given that Douglas is at the minimum, and that he at least broke double figures in garbage time last night, it seems like I'll have to carry him through this week.

I will also be making the Durant ---> LBJ move today and am intrigued by an early switch into Noah, as suggested by Guru. Being a Buck fan in Milwaukee (and TSN owner of Ersan Ilyasova), I can tell you that I do not think the return of Redd or Luc Richard is going to have that great of an impact on his minutes. Ilyasova is emerging is the second best player on the active roster with Bogut out, is a capable shooter who is getting a lot of open looks created by Brandon Jennings, and who gets hustle stats due to his incredible work rate. Skiles loves him, too; thus, I expect that he will play as many minutes as his 22 year old body and personal foul situation will allow.

Sorry that my roster isn't set up for great point production this first period. I will research and read this thread careful in an effort to remedy that.

--Skip
 
28ki @ work
      ID: 2836246
      Wed, Nov 25, 2009, 11:48
I was planning on going Brandon Roy to LBJ yesterday..... but I got in late and by the time I sat down to do the move... Roy was locked ($160k OPPS!.... probably still doing that today
 
30money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Wed, Nov 25, 2009, 15:34
27 - that's good to hear about Ilyasova. Would be nice to have $4.96 in the bank instead of basically nada with Nene. Should make some good coin for a few days.
 
31Skip to My Lou
      ID: 48943810
      Wed, Nov 25, 2009, 15:53
Louis Williams out tonight with a broken jaw. I will *now* proceed to set myself on fire.
 
32kentucky indians
      ID: 310371711
      Wed, Nov 25, 2009, 18:11
Now that I've thought about it today.... I like what Joakim Noah is doing and I am the only current Noah owner... For ME, with the cash sitting there... my trade is NOAH to LBJ today and Roy back to Noah after Roy's b2b on Saturday...
 
33kentucky indians
      ID: 310371711
      Wed, Nov 25, 2009, 18:13
Guru.... thank you for posting stats!!!
 
35Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Thu, Nov 26, 2009, 07:39
Curious about Noah buyers...Assuming we all own Gasol, isn't everyone planning on trading him for Noah on Monday?
 
37Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Nov 26, 2009, 08:56
[35] Gasol could also go to Nene
 
38money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Thu, Nov 26, 2009, 09:26
Anyone have a good reason for me to keep Hughes, other than saving a trade? Ugh
 
39G
      ID: 20291015
      Thu, Nov 26, 2009, 13:19
I will most likely use Thompson for Noah on Monday and will hold Gasol thru the week
 
41money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Thu, Nov 26, 2009, 14:58
I also have Thompson. Kinda screwed up and have Hughes as a G, so I would have to get another G for him. Sounds like Noah is the smart pick, but I'd have to get him from Thompson.
 
42G
      ID: 441412322
      Thu, Nov 26, 2009, 15:40
$4later- I just grabbed Ariza yesterday for his flex, consistency and long term holdability. Not sure when the best time to do a Hughes --> anyone is yet TBD
 
43money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Thu, Nov 26, 2009, 16:36
Gonna hold. When in doubt, stay put I guess...
 
44Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Thu, Nov 26, 2009, 19:14
Thompson's sched is too long for me to sell. I'll give him a chance to go back to his dominating ways. No real replacements in that price bracket that I can see. Jennings >>> Ariza looks like it'll go off in a couple of weeks.
 
45ki@mons house
      ID: 241043247
      Thu, Nov 26, 2009, 20:31
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

Hughes and Thompson look like holds to me with pretty good schedules. Even though the Indy is good as well, I am considering Hibbard to Ariza tonight to stop the money loss.
 
46ki@mons house
      ID: 241043247
      Thu, Nov 26, 2009, 20:34
WAIT that's a different team.... don't have the spare change to do that... gonna try to come up a with an option from Hibbert.
 
47M4later@home stuffed
      ID: 2111213116
      Thu, Nov 26, 2009, 23:31
Hope everyone had a great day and gave thanks for everything you have!
 
49money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sat, Nov 28, 2009, 00:21
At least Thompson was a little better tonight, but he's gonna bleed more tomorrow and I need to move him. Any thoughts? Noah (sched not great), Nene (a little expensive, but producing), Boozer (would leave me with no cash). Need to get some RV (made zero the past two days)
 
50Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Sat, Nov 28, 2009, 07:48
I think if it were my team, I'd move him to Ellis, looks like you have the cash and the flex.

I'm tyring to figure a way to get Ellis on my team. I had planned on Bargnani/Hughes=> Ellis/Morrow. I'm really sick of Bargs, and can't afford a straight Bargs=> Ellis.

But Hughes last night is making me wonder.....

So, it's either do nothing or go for it

 
52ki@mons house
      ID: 241043247
      Sat, Nov 28, 2009, 10:48
Gotta get myself going in the right direction.... I think I'm gonna blow this team up today...
Roy to Ellis today...
and Bargnani to Noah today is gonna be a good money move....
then Dahanty Jones to Stephaan Curry or Trevor Ariza..

 
53ki@mons house
      ID: 241043247
      Sat, Nov 28, 2009, 10:53
Feels kindof dumb to give up a Bargnani game?? I guess I can do that on Monday but I'm afraid that will cost me a bunch of money..
 
54money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sat, Nov 28, 2009, 11:29
Thompson to Ellis. Bargnani to Noah (maybe). Don't like going tradeless...
 
55Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Sat, Nov 28, 2009, 16:59
Actually I'd figger Bargnani to make a little scratch on Sun. That's when the Raptor's sched really kicks in. I'd take that game fer sher. Buying Noah on the Monday is fine. I'm thinking of moving Thompson for him then and then going Gasol to Ariza on Tues. Peace
 
56G
      ID: 20291015
      Sat, Nov 28, 2009, 17:52
Thompson to Curry, holding Bargnani until at least Monday with Pho up next which should be high scoring. Certainly wouldnt give up that game for Noah today. With the way Noah is playing lately I dont see a need to rush
 
57Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Nov 28, 2009, 17:54
Bargnani/Thompson => Ellis/Morrow
 
58ki@mons house
      ID: 241043247
      Sat, Nov 28, 2009, 18:11
Do we like Morrow better than Ariza or Curry??
 
59Headless T Gunners
      ID: 19212913
      Sat, Nov 28, 2009, 18:15
Morrow and Curry have 9 games to 6 until Dec 13th
However on refresh Dec 9th Ariza will come into plenty of $$$ with a healthy sked ahead
 
60Headless T Gunners
      ID: 19212913
      Sat, Nov 28, 2009, 18:17
I'd like Ellis..but I don't see any move here...Do You?
Jennings,Evans Hughes, Morrow
Anthony,Ilyasova,James, Bosh
Frye Gasol and only 130 left over
 
61G
      ID: 20291015
      Sat, Nov 28, 2009, 18:20
As players I rank them Ariza, Curry, Morrow. Advantages to each player so it depends on how your team is. Ariza has higher average an longer hold but fewer games short term. I think Curry will outscore Morrow but he is cheaper with flex.
 
62Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Sat, Nov 28, 2009, 18:30
Okay, there's a note on Rotoworld that Thompson missed practice today. He's probable for Sun but I'm blowing him out early. Going to Noah today and losing the possible game. Extra money probably isn't worth a decent Thompson game but I'm not gonna take the chance. Gasol to Ariza on Tues. Good luck all.
 
63money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sat, Nov 28, 2009, 21:37
1-1/2 hours for me to decide on making the Bragnani > Nene move...
 
64money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sun, Nov 29, 2009, 00:03
Interesting, a few people sold Jennings. Could start a sell-off the next few days.
 
65G
      ID: 441412322
      Sun, Nov 29, 2009, 00:20
Jennings will be sold by a few but he also has the capacity to hurt the sellers. Interesting to check in and see GSW's are now playing 10 players. The results look much different than a few days ago when they only played 6.

I need a cheap player and am very interested to see what R. Lopez brings in the next game. If he plays 20+ minutes and/or puts up 20 pts again he could be my long term cheapie I need.
 
66Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Sun, Nov 29, 2009, 02:14
Addendum: Jennings to Ariza today. Looking to be able to do Gasol to Ellis on Mon.
 
68money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sun, Nov 29, 2009, 12:55
Just sold Jennings for Ariza. He's gonna start losing major RV with WAS, CLE and BOS on their schedule next week. Not good matchups. I'll hop back on in mid-December.
 
69G
      ID: 441412322
      Sun, Nov 29, 2009, 22:53
Bargnani put up a nice game and is starting a 4 in 5 on Tuesday. Gasol put up another monster and with two more games early next week, I am not sure I want to miss his games. Especially since he will go well into a variety of options that I wouldn't want now but will then. So, the real question will be how much do i want to force Lebron. Dirk to Lebron is the best fit. Missing 3 Lebron didn't hurt this week but not sure how long I want to push my luck. I chose Nene over Noah from Jennings so also thinking I may pass on Noah since his schedule is less than 2 weeks which I probably need more long term holds now than in and out moves. Christmas isn't that far away now and trades will be valuable then.
 
70money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sun, Nov 29, 2009, 23:00
Bought Jennings back from Ariza earlier. Just went to sell him (again) and buy Noah. I hate that you can't move players to another position once their frozen. Guess I'm stuck w/Jenning's losses.
 
71money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Mon, Nov 30, 2009, 00:02
Jennings down 160k on 66 sells. After tomorrow night's game, it might be a must. Not sure to whom though. Brewer?
 
73Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Nov 30, 2009, 10:05
Will have to see how Jennings does tonight.

Surprisingly, a move of Jennings=>Jason Thompson is not out of the question - although that should probably wait until 12/5, which is probably too late from a price standpoint.
 
74ki @ work
      ID: 2836246
      Mon, Nov 30, 2009, 10:57
I am thinking of holding Jennings...... but that is why my teams always tend to be trade rich and dollars poor...
 
75G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Mon, Nov 30, 2009, 13:58
Done trading for the week as next week may be a busy one so I will need that one trade left. I have pretty much decided to wait on adding Lebron until after Dirk plays his b2b on Saturday. While it will be scary to watch, 3 Dirk seems like a better option than 2 James.
 
76G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Mon, Nov 30, 2009, 14:10
KI, I have a team like yours with Thompson and Jennings but only one trade left. I chose to hold Thompson since I think today will be his only hit and he may make money back next week. I think Jennings could lose 100+ today,tomorrow, and Wed. Given your RV total, you may want to move Jennings today since no performance this side of a Jennings 3D will be worth the 300 -400k RV hit between now and then.
 
77money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Mon, Nov 30, 2009, 15:47
My RV sucks this week. Having Hughes and Jennings and 1 trade left is frustrating. Jennings plays tonight, so I might as well keep him. Can't find a good move from Hughes, so I'll take the bath on that one too. At least his sched this week is ok...
 
78Maineacs
      ID: 18901915
      Mon, Nov 30, 2009, 17:41
I used my 2 trades today to pick up some rv. I traded Lebron/Jennings for Ellis/Noah. Should have done it yesterday. I will have enough cash to get me out of my deadend cheapie (Dudley) to either Evans/Ariza/Thompson on Wednesday. If Labron is healthy I will have a great back in from Bosh on the 6th. Any comments welcomed.
 
79Headless T Gunners
      ID: 19212913
      Mon, Nov 30, 2009, 17:47
Not happy about this Jennings thing, was planning hold 'til 2nd refresh.
Now I'm concerned...nobody really to match up TSNP potential straight up.
I Like Deng and obviously Noah goes up tonight.
Jennings/Gasol -> Deng/Noah...I think that costs TSNP but saves plenty RV
thoughts please
 
80Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Mon, Nov 30, 2009, 18:18
78/79

Jennings is a dead man. He might produce but he'll do nothing but lose RV for the next week +. If Noah plays well, he'll be the money-melon for the next two weeks. Ellis is keepable for a couple of weeks. I've gotta grab him tonight from Gasol or I miss my window. Hated trading Thompson early and I paid for it, but economic realities constantly stare you in the face in this game. Deng's a decent value but Ariza is a much better one...
 
81kentucky indians
      ID: 23238286
      Mon, Nov 30, 2009, 20:08
Held Jennings for tonight.... (he plays TONIGHT!)... will consider selling him tomorrow... couldn't make up my mind either on the Bargnani (LOVE that 4 in 5 that starts tomorrow!)to Noah move.... I think it is Guru's rule that when you have trouble making up your mind you should do nothing...
 
82Headless T Gunners
      ID: 19212913
      Mon, Nov 30, 2009, 22:35
Jennings/Gasol -> Deng/Noah
Was certainly wrong about costing TSNP - Big Nights both
 
83money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 00:01
I'm at a total loss as to what I need to do. Jennings, Gasol and Hughes and one trade before tomorrow night. Gonna have to plan this next week carefully so I can get out of this tailspin.
 
84reebbertxx
      Dude
      ID: 561124720
      Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 00:05
**Intruder**

78> Glenn, with the news of Barbosa being out for a month I would consider keeping Dudley. There are worse things than having a 500k placeholder who actually plays. The Suns have a pretty great schedule through x-mas. It also allows you to use your saved trades a little more aggressively.

 
85Maineacs
      ID: 18901915
      Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 00:41
You're so right Rob. I was thinking more about Lopez taking up minutes. I have Dudley in D&T and he played well earlier. Will have a day to rethink it.
 
87money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 14:22
Jennings > ??...$5.78 to spend
Looking for opinions on a 2-3 week hold for some RV first, then pts. (No one playing tonight works).

Top: Ariza, Noah, Deng
Middle: Brewer (IND), Dunleavy
Bottom: M Williams (CLE), Stuckey, Evans
 
88Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 14:53
Since I don't know a Brewer that plays for Indiana, My vote would be:

1) Ariza
2 Evans
or
1) Evans
2) Ariza

:)

 
89money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 16:09
Sorry, meant to type MIN, not IND. LOL
 
90G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 16:22
agree with 88
 
91Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 16:32
87

Hey MFL, if you've got the flex to add Noah, what's yer current C sitch and future plans?
 
92money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 16:53
Went Jennings > Ariza, pending better advice. No trades until refresh tonight:

Curry, CDR (flex), Ellis, Ariza (flex)
Bosh (flex), Lebron, Ilyasova, Hughes (flex)
Gasol, Bargnani (flex)

Gasol > Noah tonight
Hughes > Evans tonight

Leaves me 2 trades for the rest of the week for injuries and sudden crappy play (inevitable). LOL
 
93ki @ work
      ID: 2836246
      Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 17:28
I like Jennings to Brewer (Min) myself...... mainly because of lower ownership (more TSN$$$ potential) and longer decent schedule....
But thats probably why Im bringing up the rear on this team (LOL)
 
94Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 17:29
92

Sounds like a good plan and a good line-up.

Potential bleeders this week...Bargs, Bosh and Curry if he doesn't get minutes.

Peace
 
95Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 17:32
Hey Money,

Why not see how Hughes does tonight, trading him to Evans now loses a game. If Hughes does well, I'd hold him another 2 games. A big game might generate some buys and he does have a 4 game week, there are some who trade based on weekly schedules.

I would imagine Evans would do better money wise, although his schedule still isn't quite there yet.

I just hate giving up games
 
96Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 17:37
That's what he meant by "tonight" - i.e., after the freeze...

 
98money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 17:50
Hughes is the wild card in that plan, depending on how he does tonight.

As for Curry, I'm hoping his minutes were limited last night so he could play more tonight.

The Bosh/Bargnani derailment definitely needs to be discussed. Probably look at Boozer/Deron after game on 12/8 or sooner?

Thanks again for all the input.
 
99Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 19:13
I knew that's what he meant, but both play tomorrow and Hughes plays Friday , before Evans plays again Saturday. Unless I'm reading the schedule wrong.
 
100kentucky indians
      ID: 23238286
      Tue, Dec 01, 2009, 20:01
now that I've thought about it.... Jennings to Tyreke Evans looks more promising.
 
102Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Dec 02, 2009, 08:29
Leaning to Jennings=>Ariza today. Hate to give up a game this week, but it still might come close to breaking even (although I fully expect Ariza to suffer HBS tonight). Even after taking two hits in price on Jennings, his schedule outlook suggests that there is no imminent reversal, even with respectable performance.

Hughes will go later in the week, possibly to Thompson on 12/5.

Would like to bank my other two trades this week, but the way things have been going, that seems unlikely. Could move Bosh=>Boozer if Bosh falters, although it feels like Boozer is about due for another injury.
 
103money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Wed, Dec 02, 2009, 10:54
Just noticed Noah's ownership is already at 24%. Might look at Lopez instead (only @ 7%). Dang research! LOL
 
104Headless T Gunners
      ID: 19212913
      Wed, Dec 02, 2009, 11:23
Maybe some Deng research...I'm the only one here
 
105Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Wed, Dec 02, 2009, 11:55
Kentucky Indians, am I seeing you sold Jennings and forgot to replace him.... Ouch... Invalid
 
106money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Wed, Dec 02, 2009, 12:51
"Hughes is the wild card in that plan, depending on how he does tonight.". Talk about throwing a wrench in my Hughes > Evans plan. Evans @ 33% ownership, but Hughes might get some buys today after last night's performance. Guess it's a good thing to save a trade, but geez.
 
107Skip to My Lou
      ID: 48943810
      Wed, Dec 02, 2009, 13:20
Hoping to reverse my embarrassing performance and remove the scourge of Toney Douglas (which is akin to invalidity). In addition to Douglas, I have Jennings, Gasol and Sefolosha (don't ask).

One of them will be turned into Ariza. Is it too late for me to jump on CDR with his high ownership %? My concern is that coaching change may have a negative effect of him (and, relatedly, a positive one on Lopez, as Kiki looks to the post for more production).

It's too bad that Hickson's minutes have declined, as the CLE schedule is excellent. Anyone intrigued by Andy Varejao?

Others I'm considering:

Thompson & Tyreke
Corey Brewer
Will Bynum
 
108Skip to My Lou
      ID: 48943810
      Wed, Dec 02, 2009, 13:33
Poll:

Pick 2 of 3 -- Ariza, Thompson, Tyreke
 
109money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Wed, Dec 02, 2009, 13:43
Ariza for sure. I'm undecided on the other two. Thompson could make more RV because his lower ownership, but Tyreke is a stud.
 
110G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Wed, Dec 02, 2009, 15:54
Ariza, Evans are strong buys. CDR and Thompson both could be held for a while. I would take Bynum off the list as Det should be healthy this week.
 
111G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Wed, Dec 02, 2009, 15:56
RE 105. That was a big pts loss being invalid with Bosh, Bargs, Hughes, Ellis, Curry and Frye all active. Ouch
 
112Headless T Gunners
      ID: 19212913
      Wed, Dec 02, 2009, 16:35
Re 105
Did it with 1 of my 3 teams earlier this year, first time ever
what a shock - you stare at the screen in disbelief..Was a slow night, 100 TSNP
 
113Qwerty123
      ID: 48836289
      Wed, Dec 02, 2009, 17:57
The new and inferior interface strikes again. I've already had a couple near heart attacks at the freeze thinking I had forgotten to buy someone.
 
114money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Wed, Dec 02, 2009, 18:15
I may flip a coin on the Hughes > Evans trade. I get 2 games to 1 if I wait until pre-game Sat. Also Looking at Bosh > Boozer after tonight's game and holding on to Bargnani until Sat. also...
 
115kentucky indians
      ID: 23238286
      Wed, Dec 02, 2009, 18:27
Im sorry guys..... I feel like I let you all down last night.... I'm really TICKED off today... I got in at 10:30 again from my 10 year old son's real life basketball... by the time I got them to bed it was 10 till 11... sat down I knew I was pushing it to get my trades in... Sold Jennings at 10:59pm, it was not 15 seconds later that I hit the buy Brewer button and the FRIGGIN TSN system had everyone locked... They old program with the buy and sell being together THAT would not have happened... I shot them an email... they sent back...

Thank you for your email. Unfortunately once the roster lock takes place there is nothing we can do to reverse a trade or place other players onto a user's team. We do apologize for any inconvenience this may cause

Sincerely

Sporting News Fantasy Games

sorry again guys... I will try to make it up... and YES 173.5 TSNP was a pretty big night last night!

I share to hope that no one else gets caught in the same situation.

 
116Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Wed, Dec 02, 2009, 20:51
Don't worry about letting anyone else down KI, we're just bummed that you got screwed. Good luck the rest of the week. Keep that chin up! :)
 
117money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Wed, Dec 02, 2009, 21:13
Bosh > Boozer
Bargnani > who the heck knows.
 
118Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Wed, Dec 02, 2009, 22:48
Yup,

Bosh to Boozer. Bosh has been my absolulte MVP so far this year. Sorry to see him go, but he just got his pink-slip 2nite.
 
119money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Wed, Dec 02, 2009, 23:59
Thoughts? I have 2 trades after Bosh > Boozer.

Any of these 3 need to go before tomorrow's games?

Ilyasova, Hughes, Bargnani. All three may lose $$, but I don't want to blow all my trades.
 
120Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 03:32
I'd hold until Saturday. They'll all bleed but its more important to guard your trades and make the right move. You never know who might get hurt.
 
121Headless T Gunners
      ID: 181117294
      Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 08:12
Looks like I'm to bleed and miss a little RV
Anthony -> Boozer after tonight
Bosh -> Gasol after Bosh's back to back
 
123deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 09:43
*Intruder*

KI, you have mail...
 
124Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 10:26
Bosh=>Boozer today.

Interestingly, that frees up more than $3m in cash, which opens up a much bigger universe of possible replacements for Hughes this week. I had been leaning toward Jason Thompson, but I'm no longer that constrained. But no need to pin that down today.
 
125Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 10:35
Bosh => Boozer as well, seems like a popular move
 
126G
      ID: 151156312
      Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 13:56
Definitely Bosh to Booze. After that performance last night, I can't get to the bottle fast enough!
 
127Maineacs
      ID: 18901915
      Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 14:00
Bargnani-> Boozer and Bosh-> Lebron today. Wish I could hold them and keep the trades. Two trades left and will need to deal with Lee/Hughes before refresh. Wishing the rest of my team good health and production. Seems like an endless condition. Maybe I'll say the hell with RV. Again.
 
128Headless T Gunners
      ID: 24114313
      Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 14:08
Bosh to get bashed indeed
should I throw away 2 Bosh games for 1 Carmelo and all the RV in:
Anthony -> Boozer after tonight
Bosh -> Gasol after Bosh's back to back
 
129money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 14:21
I am also going Bosh>Boozer. Think I should hold Ilyasova, even though he has CLE/BOS coming up? I could move him to Nene, then Hughes to Evens on 12/4.
 
130G
      ID: 151156312
      Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 16:02
Replacing Bosh, Ersan and Hughes with Boozer, Nene, Evans seems like a nice team tho it shows you only have 1 trade. Do you already do that this am before stats were run? That would leave you with 1 trade and Bargnani as your guy to move on 12/6 or hold if something comes up right?
 
131Maineacs
      ID: 18901915
      Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 17:53
I decided against picking up Lebron. He would keep me from having any Lakers. I think Bosh/Lee/Hughes -> Boozer/Williams/Lopez today and Bargnani -> Gasol or Bynum as soon as I feel safe (6th) works for me. Lebron's gains will be over quick so I think this is a better money route. Suggestions?
 
132Maineacs
      ID: 18901915
      Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 18:02
Any help! Thanks.

Lebron/Ariza(16 mill) or Williams/Gasol(17 mill) or (Williams/Bynum (16 mill).
 
133Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 18:20
Well, all I can say is I'd hate to be the only guy without LeBron when he goes off. IMHO he's a MUST own with this schedule.

I like Gasol the best of the other guys you mentioned. Everyone will have Ariza by the middle of next week.
 
134G
      ID: 441412322
      Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 19:08
I couldnt imagine not having Lebron and Ariza for very long when everyone else has them. Lebron because he is simply the best TSN player and Ariza for his G/F, production to price ratio.
 
135Blooki
      Sustainer
      ID: 449292712
      Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 19:19
I agree about Lebron, but I don't get the Ariza love. I feel like he's got 3 or 4 comparable players that a competitive manager could own in his stead.
 
136money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 20:15
130 - I actually have 3 trades before the Bosh move. It showed 1 this morning because I was messing around with some options. I would actually pick up Nene from Ilyasova right now, then move Hughes to Evans after tomorrow's games. That would leave me tradeless and holding Bargnani for his B2B on the 8th and 9th.
 
137G
      ID: 441412322
      Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 20:19
I am open to suggestions on options and would like know more. Name one sub 4 mil guy with g/f flex producing over 30 a game average with a killer long term schedule that will gain tons of money. I suspect guard spots will be challenge in the near future when GSW get sold in bunches.
 
138money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 20:25
30/game? Not much at all out there for under 4 mil. and G/F eligibility. Ariza (thru end of Dec) and CDR (thru 12/19) are it.
 
139Headless T Gunners
      ID: 24114313
      Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 20:29
G
Ariza is the only one..But I guess you knew that already
nobody else in sight
 
140money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 20:32
He's trying to test us...LOL
 
141G
      ID: 441412322
      Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 20:32
he is an intruder after all :)
 
142Blooki
      Sustainer
      ID: 449292712
      Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 21:29
When you put it that way, Ariza is your guy. I would just work in Tyreke and Thompson before I worked him in. Plus there are two $4mil guys that are definitely on my watch list. Both are risky so they're far from locks, but they're on the radar (and intentionally not being named here). I'd also rather have Westbrook than Ariza.

All I was saying is that Ariza is nowhere near the projected must-have status that Lebron is. Thusfar (which doesn't mean I won't at some point), I have not tried to work Ariza into a single rotation scheme for the coming weeks.
 
143G
      ID: 441412322
      Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 21:40
I think James is the only real MUST have guy this year. Last year, Paul, Wade and Howard were all in that category. SO at least for this year when we are talking about "must have guys" it is James and then everyone else.

I also was posting based on the idea that everyone has or will have Evans already.

Our rosters dictate that we have to carry some mid to low level guus. Thompson and Ariza are close but given the flex of Ariza for G/F and the more consistent play/schedule, I would take Ariza in heartbeat. Players 3 and 4 are two "risky" unmentioned players. I guess I would feel pretty comforatble with Ariza based on that.
 
144money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 22:09
Is the plan to get P Gasol for his game on the 6th? Not sure I'll able to do that unless I change plans again
 
145G
      ID: 441412322
      Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 22:11
I am sure some will but you will be fine if you have to wait until Wed since it will be buys on 6th and then little to nothing until Wed.
 
146Maineacs
      ID: 18901915
      Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 22:25
After Phatsow, G and Blooki advised me to take Lebron, I did. Not taking him would be like ignoring Aurebach, Jackson and Popovich. Lol.
 
147Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 22:36
Wow! I'm Auerbach!!! Muchos thanks. I hope that's "Red" and not former Cincinnatti "Red", Rick... :)
 
148Maineacs
      ID: 18901915
      Thu, Dec 03, 2009, 23:50
Your choice. He's dead you know and that reminds me of "better red than dead." I guess that makes both pretty awful. Thanks anyway. I was all over the place on those moves and needed some support.
 
149kentucky indians
      ID: 310371711
      Fri, Dec 04, 2009, 00:39
Phatsow,
Love your contributions to the thread.... exactly what we need!!!! Very very happy with what you are contributing.... Please keep it up!! Also, please, again, take no offense to my next comment....


Maniacs,
LOVE (double love your #146 post!) Ignoring G, Blooki and Phatsow would be ignore the advice of the BEST! (Phatsow aside!) Very glad to here you have added Lebron! Ignoring G,Blooki (thank you for your contribution!) and Phatsow would be like ignoring Mike Krzyzewski, Don Nelson and Harvey Finkelstein.

Keep up the contributions.... The team that leads the GMD in post threads usually WINS! Keep communicating with each each other. very happy with where we are at.... We can win this!

KI

 
150 Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Fri, Dec 04, 2009, 02:38
Enjoying it immensly. Are there any plans for e-mail communication in this group? Guess I'll throw mine out there. Phatsow@sbcglobal.net

Illyasova to Thompson on Saturday...

Peace
 
151Headless T Gunners
      ID: 181117294
      Fri, Dec 04, 2009, 05:54
I'm thiking of Greg Oden soon
his last 5:
52.5-17-35-40-45.5
 
152 Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Fri, Dec 04, 2009, 07:12
I'll throw my email in the loop.
 
153 Maineacs
      ID: 18901915
      Fri, Dec 04, 2009, 07:55
KI, I went invalid in baseball sometime in August and I just started sleeping a little last week. It was a deadline slow computer thing also.
 
154money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Fri, Dec 04, 2009, 09:12
Mine's hanstess@comcast.net
 
155Headless T Gunners
      ID: 181117294
      Fri, Dec 04, 2009, 09:13
price_elliott@hotmail.com
 
157kentucky indians
      ID: 310371711
      Fri, Dec 04, 2009, 19:22
Tyreke Evens is gonna be a dilema for me tomorrow.... obvious value play TSNP/$$$ wise with a great schedule.... but 39% ownership (wow!)... I have always had trouble pulling the buy trigger on a guy with high ownership like that....
 
158Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Fri, Dec 04, 2009, 20:37
He'll gain a little on this 4 in 5 and then lose for the 1 in 5. If you buy now, you'll actually lose a little short-term RV. But he's a great long-term hold and I personally don't care about money with him. He's a great value and one of the 10 guys I definitely want on my roster right now. I'm holding through the losses. Few players as good as him for the price.
 
159money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Fri, Dec 04, 2009, 20:50
Now that Hughes isn't starting, I'll have to use my one trade for him instead of Bargs. Not a clue who to pick up. Have to save $4 mil to get P Gasol from Bargs Tuesday night. Crap!

 
160kentucky indians
      ID: 310371711
      Fri, Dec 04, 2009, 21:55
Just started studying the GMD standings a bit tonight.... the good news is We have the fewest Anthony Morrows in the league.... the bad news is we have the most Larry Hughes and Corey Brewers... We have a firm hold on second place.... we would be close if I had not DNPed the other night... ALL in All I think we are off to a very nice start!!

Thanks Guru for that roster summary macro... seeing what I have side by side I think will save me bunch of time.... I start moving players and I usually get to a spot that what works on one team is impossible on another and then I forget what I did where... that should help!
 
162Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Dec 05, 2009, 10:02
ki - your "DNP" actually hd no impact on our team results, since the two lowest scoring teams in each period are excluded. Even if your points that night we included, I think you would still be in the bottom 2, so your goof really had no impact our our team results.

Don't know if that makes you feel better or not...
 
163Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Dec 05, 2009, 11:49
Leaning toward Hughes=>Brook Lopez today. (Guess I should have done that yesterday, but was still uncertain about whether to get Lopez or Jason Thompson).

Moving today gets me only one Lopez game in the next 3 days vs. 2 Hughes games, but that might be a wash (depending on which Hughes shows up for the two games), and will certainly be a price winner.
 
164money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sat, Dec 05, 2009, 11:55
Guru - makes sense for RV and points. I've got Hughes too, but not sure if I want to trade him now and hold Bargs through the trade refresh or use my last trade for Bargs > P Gasol after tonight game.
 
165money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sat, Dec 05, 2009, 14:21
A little surprised at Ariza losing 120k.
 
166money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sat, Dec 05, 2009, 16:21
hey team - would it be better to hold Bargs or Hughes through the refresh? I would go Hughes to either Dunleavy or J Thompson right now, or Bargs to Gasol after tonight's game. I'm afraid Bargs will lose 200-250k the next couple of days...
 
167G
      ID: 441412322
      Sat, Dec 05, 2009, 16:27
in that equation, Bargs is probably your biggest loser for the guys you would hold and Gasol is probably the smallest gainer of the guys you would buy for the rest of the week.
 
168money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sat, Dec 05, 2009, 16:56
I thought Gasol might make some good coin. I could also see some IND and WAS players start to pick up...
 
169kentucky indians
      ID: 310371711
      Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 00:20
That one in SEVEN for Hughes leads me to believe he needs to go on Tuesday.... I have him on two teams and plan to trade him AFTER his back to back.
 
170money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 03:11
Ariza's adding to my headache. 1 trade left and Bargs has to be traded to...ugh, I don't know
 
171Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 04:58
Ummm, I wouldn't worry about Ariza, yeah he'll lose some short-term coin, but he'll make it all back next week. I'll keep my trades and the great flex player thank you.
 
173Headless T Gunners
      ID: 24114313
      Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 07:43
I'm thinking it was probably a good idea to stay away from Oden after reading in the afternoon that he was limited in practise with a sprained ankle.
Wonder if that contributed to the knee thing.
Was going to go Ilyasova -> Oden.
Does Love start looking good?
 
175money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 12:54
I can't decide who to move Bargs to. 4.2 in the bank with no solid options. P Gasol, Duncan on the higher end? Stuckey for 4.6? I really some ideas...
 
177G
      ID: 20291015
      Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 14:27

I like J thompson for today then use your cash on Hughes and others next week
 
178Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 14:39
Who traded Dirk last night? I hope you made a pile of dough.
 
179G
      ID: 20291015
      Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 14:44
I did and I did. About 200k.
 
180Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 15:01
Stupid question.

Why wouldn't you keep Dirk for his game last night and grab someone today. Looks like trading Dirk last night cost you 37 points, assuming you got Thompson.

 
181G
      ID: 441412322
      Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 15:33
Unfortunately I can't predict player results. Thompson was the guy I wanted and both played yesterday. Based on averages I was looking at -13 for about 200K but Thompson had Pho so I was hoping for a little better performance. I don't trade early very often and my RV has taken a hit lately because of it. Oh well.
 
182G
      ID: 441412322
      Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 15:38
I forgot the most important part which is that trade #4 of my next planned moves will be very tight which is the primary reason for the willigness to give up a projected 13 points last night.
 
183Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Sun, Dec 06, 2009, 19:13
As of Tuesday...LOVE comes to town!
 
185money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 10:03
So we all getting some "Love" on Tuesday?
 
186Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 10:18
No Love in my current plans.
 
187Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 10:34
Same here. Not sure he's essential, and have no way into him that makes sense, barring a complete tanking of one of my other players.

And Money, seeing as how you are out of trades, I suppose you mean Wednesday, it may be a tad to late for him by then. +90 and +100 already, with I'm sure two more big gains tonight and tomorrow. I'm not sure I'd buy in.
 
188ki @ work
      ID: 2836246
      Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 11:11
162.....

Actually, your comment has made me think about how to manage my GMD team this week..... Unfortunately for our GMD team, I am the ONE guy that I cannot be dropped during the waiver period on wednesday, in spite of my poor performance.
The only player who needs to go for money purposes is Larry Hughes. In spite of the fact that he plays a back to back, his points are gonna be irrelevant so I trade him to a person whose schedule STARTS being good on Wednesday... And I think that person is probably Trevor Ariza or Kevin Love?? So now I have to figure out when? I am guessing Ariza could still loose today and Hughes could actually be up tonight so if its Ariva I probably do it tomorrow.... If I want Love, then moneywise that move is probably best today. I think it is probably best for me to hold the rest of my trades thru wednesday. That will let me start the next trading period with a strong schedule.
 
189Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 11:48
KI, what schedule are you looking at, Hughes plays tonight, then his schedule goes in the toilet. So seeing as how you are targeting Love or Ariza, I wouldn't do it until tomorrow. But you're right, he needs to go.

Pick one, IMO. Love should gain again tonight, but I don't think he's a poor choice, getting him tomorrow. Ariza is cheaper, G/F.

If I read your post tight, if you want Love you intend to sacrifice the Hughes game. I don't like to do that, but, who knows, he may pull a disappearing act again. SO, I guess it's up to you.
 
190Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 11:58
ki[92] - depends on whether you are managing your team "for real", or simply for GMD. If the latter, then you should move Hughes for Love now. The points are irrelevant to our GMD team, and the price swing will be favorable.
 
191Headless T Gunners
      ID: 24114313
      Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 12:17
Went Ilyasova -> Love

was planning Hughes -> Ariza then Anthony -> Gasol
Should I keep Frye at refresh...If not it would leave me about 5100 for a player at any position

Too late for CDR
Landry,Stuckey,Varejao,Wallace
Anybody else? Just stay Frye?

 
192ki @ work
      ID: 2836246
      Mon, Dec 07, 2009, 12:36
I can manage this team for "GMD-only" purposes.
 
193G
      ID: 441412322
      Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 09:04
Wow Love's price went up quite a bit these last three days and he is at 8% ownership. Got to add him today on my teams with trades.
 
195money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 21:32
Hughes > Love, Dunleavy or P Gasol? I'm thinking Dunleavy with Granger out. He may get consistent minutes.
 
196Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 21:36
I really don't like to trade for players who haven't shown me at least two or three games of what I'm looking for. Dunleavy hasn't exactly "destroyed" since his return.
 
197Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 21:55
Ariza
 
198money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 23:06
I have Ariza. Hmmm
 
199kentucky indians
      ID: 310371711
      Tue, Dec 08, 2009, 23:32
M4L,
$0.02 from the guy bringing up the rear on this team.... I like Gasol of you options if your have given me (assuming you have the cash).
1 Gasol... 2 Love.... 3. Dunleavy

On my radar right now is (in no particular order!) Mo Williams (Will never be a big night... but given his schedule this month he is gonna score a lot of points!), Gasol and Kobe(schedule heating up for Christmas), and a cheapie -- J Willy in ORLANDO (filling in for Jameer Nelson... putting up great numbers, good schedule but no love????)

Also interested in what people are doing with Tyreke Evans during his 1 game in 5 days next week? Although he is not on my GMD team... I think I'm gonna hold him on the teams that I own him on.
 
200Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 04:56
Hold, hold, hold on Tyreke. I'm buying into Carl Landry for my cheapie. His minutes have been consistent and his production is 30+ over the past two weeks. He's got the Moses Malone schedule starting Wed. Gasol and Love are fine buys as well.
 
201deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 06:18
-Intruder-

KI you have mail.
 
203deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 10:45
KI, can you check your mail, its rather urgent...
 
204money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 20:51
I was hoping to save some trades this week, but with Noah and Ellis having sub-par games again, this could be a mess.
 
205kentucky indians
      ID: 310371711
      Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 23:34
M4L,

You are doing great.... Please do not panic, IMHO (and I am VERY INTERESTED in others feed back!) this team FORBIDS you to touch either of Noah or Ellis(unless injured on Friday) between now and Sunday. We can talk about possibly trading them AFTER we see how they do on Friday night on Saturday morning...... In the new thread that I start in the morning!

 
206G
      ID: 441412322
      Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 23:37
Ellis went for 38 tonight which is his average YTD. Both Noah and Ellis will be sold this week so that wont help your "saving trades" effort unless you take the hits. In GMD am def holding Ellis until after his B2B.
 
207money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 23:42
KI - LOL The more negative I get, the better the guys seem to play.
 
208Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Thu, Dec 10, 2009, 01:22
If ya held Noah and Ellis this long, ya might as well get the benefit of the b2b and then figger what Thunder/Clippers to trade them for. I'm currently looking at Durant and Eric Gordon. I love Camby's numbers but that dude has wrecked me time after time after friggin' time. Don't think I'll have the cojones to go there again.
 
209Guru
      ID: 491133108
      Thu, Dec 10, 2009, 09:36
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1 k-G-10188729 2844.5 323.5 323.5 19 63.70 4.29 59.41 0.48 3
2 k-Dave R-10016105 2835.5 293.5 293.5 71 64.11 2.31 61.80 0.33 4
3 k-Phatsow-10367913 2775.5 310.5 311 56 62.97 2.55 60.42 0.68 8
4 k-Headless T Gunners-10278243 2766 282.5 283 146 60.88 3.16 57.72 0.58 3
5 k-money4later-10023470 2715.5 319 319.5 149 60.40 0.30 60.10 0.33 3
6 k-Guru-10002682 2674.5 282 282 143 62.00 5.79 56.21 0.53 4
7 k-Maineacs-10024830 2583 267.5 265 429 57.89 0.59 57.30 0.56 2
8 k-soetal1-10062956 2556.5 287 285 407 60.11 6.84 53.27 0.42 3
9 k-DrD-10854736 2433 231.5 231.5 841 53.66 6.87 46.79 0.32 2
10 k-Kentucky Indians-10431014 2370.5 274.5 273.5 454 57.58 1.49 56.09 0.03 7



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210Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Dec 10, 2009, 12:57
Plans are to move Ellis/Morrow/Noah to Durant/Camby/someone.

I have enough cash to be able to move either Noah or Ellis to Durant now. Obviously, both Noah and Ellis play on Friday and Saturday, while Durant plays only on Friday. So, from a strict game count, I'm better off by waiting until Sunday to get Durant.

However, how do you suppose two Ellis games (@Chi, @Det) or two Noah games (GSW, Bos) will compare to one Durant game (@Mem). My thinking is that 2 Ellis games should outpoint one Durant game - but I'm not as sure about Noah. He should be fine vs. GSW, but the Boston game may not be as good.

Further, I'm not sure what the relative price movements will be for each over the next three days. Durant should certainly go up starting today, while Ellis and Noah will probably start leaking now.

So - assuming that Noah is a better drop than Ellis, would you be inclined to move Noah=>Durant today? I'm thinking that even if the point differential is unfavorable, it might be worth the price differential.