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| Posted by: kentucky indians
- [310371711] Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 20:11
Congrats to DeeJay's team -- they had another terrific trading period. He boasts 4 or the top five GMD players right now. I love that our team still leads the league in dialogue. Lets keep it UP! The season is still young and we are firmly in second place. Here is hoping each of you help us make a run.
Thank you all for playing and sharing a part of yourself with us. Enjoy the blessings of Christmas.
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| | | 1 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 21:17
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Can I start an "Ariza > ?" Thread now? Ugh
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| | | 2 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 21:52
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Ariza's doing better than some....
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| | | 3 | G
ID: 441412322
Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 21:56
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Some good games and ugly games tonight. Jennings, Ariza, Beasley, D Wright all popular guys trying to make the not top 10 on ESPN
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| | | 4 | kentucky indians
ID: 310371711
Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 22:54
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I actually BOUGHT Ariza on one of my teams today... Needed a $4.5M guard... Houston with 9 games in the next 18 days... He projects out to be my best option BY A BUNCH.
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| | | 5 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 23:50
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Durant has earner another game. That was more like it...
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| | | 6 | kentucky indians
ID: 310371711
Thu, Dec 24, 2009, 00:18
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Kudos to Skip to my Lou for having Juwan Howard on his radar..... that worked a lot better tonight than anything I did... and giving up a Durant game for Paul looks like a big point mistake as well... I have to learn how to manage that part of my fantasy game better. I start holding guys with good schedules (in an attempt to gain points) too early in the season and then --- end up selling (for a money gain when I feel I'm behind in TSNP$$$) in the middle part of the season and then end up giving away points... Durant looks like he is going to make me pay but will I ever learn??
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| | | 7 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Thu, Dec 24, 2009, 00:20
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Wish I had Howard instead of Wright. I hope that doesn't turn out to be a zero pt, zero RV-gain waste of time.
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| | | 8 | kentucky indians
ID: 310371711
Thu, Dec 24, 2009, 00:36
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P.S.
STML,
What is 'shambolic?'
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| | | 9 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Thu, Dec 24, 2009, 01:15
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Evans, Ariza, Durant, Jennings
James, Gasol, Beasley, D Wright
D Lee, J Thompson
Shouldn't have to trade any of these until 12/30, right? (Assuming I don't get another kick in the nuts from Wright). Passing on Duncan & Nash may hurt a little, but I;m still making some cash.
Anyone have any "must get" players before 12/30?
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| | | 10 | ki @ work
ID: 2836246
Thu, Dec 24, 2009, 08:47
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Evans, Jennings and Thompson with impending dry spells in there schedules.... Im am leaning towards holding? Rock solid cheapies who should help me conserve on trades to use on the big boys. I would kick myself even harder if I bought another Dorell Wright or Mike Dunleavey.
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| | | 13 | Phatsow
Sustainer
ID: 2210292621
Thu, Dec 24, 2009, 14:41
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9, well M4L...
My cunning(linguist)plan is to move Durant to Nash on Fri (extra game, no real RV but I like the sched better) and then send him packing for Paul on Tues. Ariza will go on Mon hopefully for a healthy CDR. I've been talked into the essentialness of having Paul on 12/29 (wasn't my original plan)
As for next week, looks like Kobe > Wade and Gasol > Boozer on Wed. Tyreke may hafta go midweek, don't have an exit strategy there yet.
As for Wright, he's allowed to suck for a few games for me if that's what it comes down to. I got him to open cap space, not lose money, gimmie flex and lastly hopefully play well during a great sched. I'm up against the cap, so I won't be playing cheapie du jour with that slot. I won't be moving him until I open up money and can get a real player for him. Fingers crossed...
GL
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| | | 14 | kentucky indians
ID: 310371711
Thu, Dec 24, 2009, 15:02
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Durant to Nash (for a quick three games in four days) and then to Paul.... I think that is a good move if your are sitting on 9 trades Phatsow... not so sure id recommend that for M4L who only has three trades sitting there... Durant to Paul on the 29th for M4L.... what I should have done instead of giving up a Durant game.
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| | | 15 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Thu, Dec 24, 2009, 17:20
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Yeah, Nash would be good, but not with one of my 3 trades. Many of us are hoping Wright can get 20/game and make us look good. Ariza drives me crazy. Just when I'm ready to pull the plug, he has a good game.
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| | | 16 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Dec 24, 2009, 18:04
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Agreed on the Durant=>Nash sentiment. Unless you have "trades to burn", I wouldn't do it.
Ariza is difficult to assess. When looking at alternatives, he always seems to shake out as one of his own best replacement options. At some point, he'll put up enough stinkers to secure his destiny. But after surviving his 1-game suspension, those who were the most trigger-happy have already bolted, so it now seems to be a matter of his ability to avoid posting multiple consecutive clunkers, or to avoid some other cheaper must-have alternative.
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| | | 17 | Headless T Gunners
ID: 24114313
Thu, Dec 24, 2009, 18:05
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We have 8 Gasols in all - what are we planning
anybody holding?
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| | | 18 | kentucky indians
ID: 310371711
Thu, Dec 24, 2009, 19:25
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I am Gasol less on my GMD team..... But where I have him a Gasol to Boozer move on 12/30 looks pretty attractive to me.
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| | | 20 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Fri, Dec 25, 2009, 09:00
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Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all.
Phatsow: 9 trades and the RV to go along with them, well done Sometimes patience is a virtue. I wish I had held Durant and Westbrook, although Kobe was a reasonable Durant replacement, and the jury is still out on Casspi from WB ( wanted to free up cash for Nash => Paul ).
So moving forward, I also have planned Nash => Paul. Hopefully Paul gets back on track, his last two games haven't warranted his price. But everyone will have him.
Need to replace Ariza soon. CDR is an interesting replacement to free cash, Pahtsow, but I'd like to make sure he's 100%. I guess you'll have Saturday to evaluate.
I'm giving consideration to Deng. That can be done anytime starting Monday, depending on how Ariza's doing.
Pau=> Boozer looks like it will be popular, but Pau's been so much better of late he actually projects better than Boozer through the end of their schedule, even with a 1 game disadvantage. Boozer hasn't topped 40 in his last 4 games, so I don't think it's a slam dunk.
I'll probably use CDR as my Gallinari replacement down the road on 1/2.
Kobe to Wade, provided Wade's back is OK, and it seems like it.
Probably holding Frye for a while.
Then there is Tyreke. Not sure what to do with him. Not holding for sure.
And I'd like to get Love at some point, but don't see an in.
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| | | 21 | kentucky indians
ID: 310371711
Fri, Dec 25, 2009, 12:06
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What am I missing? I don't see the CDR love right now.... schedule is luke warm; coming off one injury is always a DNP risk; he's tweeked his ankle TWICE.
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| | | 22 | Phatsow
Sustainer
ID: 2210292621
Fri, Dec 25, 2009, 12:23
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The "Love" from my point of view is he's the best cheapie in the game. 25 ppg, G/F and under a mill for a starter. Granted, sched sucks hard, but what guy that cheap has a good one? I wouldn't be lookin' to ride a train with him, quite the opposite. Just park him on my roster for a few weeks and not lose money with reasonable production in the slot. DNP's are an issue. Gotta get a clean bill of health before I go there.
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| | | 23 | kentucky indians
ID: 310371711
Fri, Dec 25, 2009, 12:35
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Gallinari after a brief 3 game dry spell goes for six in ten... If I just hold there I can save a trade?? He does not have the G/F flexibility but he is is the healthier player.
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| | | 24 | Phatsow
Sustainer
ID: 2210292621
Fri, Dec 25, 2009, 13:09
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Nuthin wrong with Gallo. Had to move him to make my plan work, but he's one of the arch-cheapies who's holdable through a bad sched.
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| | | 26 | G
ID: 441412322
Sat, Dec 26, 2009, 10:12
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Hope everyone was able to enjoy Christmas with family/friends. Time to get back to basketball. Planned moves require that sometime between today and Tuesday, I free up cash (Varejao) for the Nash --> Paul move. That will leave me with 6 trades on 12/30 and plans to use 5 of them that week. Oh to be in Phatsow's trade shoes but that will never be the case. Give me any trade allowance and I will find a way to live above it.
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| | | 27 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Sat, Dec 26, 2009, 13:45
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By getting both Beasley and Wright, I'm passing on wade I guess. Was thinking about D Lee > Duncan today. I still have enough cash to move Durant > Paul on 12/30 barring a big $$$ swing.
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| | | 28 | Phatsow
ID: 3911362613
Sat, Dec 26, 2009, 14:37
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m4l,
I wouldn't wait 'til the 30th. Do it on the 29th. You don't lose a game and you'll make a TON of money on that day.
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| | | 29 | G
ID: 20291015
Sat, Dec 26, 2009, 14:42
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$4ltr
Sometimes going without a playrer that everyone else has is a good strategy. Not sure Wade and Paul are the guys I would want to put my chips against.
If i had your linep I would be looking ar Durant to Wade and then James to Paul next week. You miss out on early Paul gains but you miss out on Wade the other way.
If you went Lee to a cheapie laer this week you could have money to upgrade Ariza.
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| | | 31 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Sat, Dec 26, 2009, 15:24
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D Lee > Duncan now
James > Paul now - too soon?
Durant > Wade for Wade's game on the 30th.
After refresh:
P Gasol > Boozer
Ariza + approx. $2.4 mil cash > (Insert idea here)
Above option leaves me with more cash than other option (keeping Lee). Not sure...hmmm
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| | | 32 | Phatsow
ID: 3911362613
Sat, Dec 26, 2009, 15:58
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Vince Carter? Jest throwin' in out.
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| | | 33 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Sat, Dec 26, 2009, 16:03
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Barring a 300k swing between Ariza/Carter, that would work.
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| | | 34 | G
ID: 441412322
Sat, Dec 26, 2009, 18:18
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Of all the guys I would not miss a 3 in 4 for when he is on my team... its Lebron. You would be giving up games of the top player longer term too. Cheapie swapping is one thing
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| | | 35 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Sat, Dec 26, 2009, 19:45
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Thanks G. Lee > Duncan only.
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| | | 36 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 01:08
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Beasley down 100k? I hope he sticks it to the sellers tomorrow.
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| | | 38 | G
ID: 441412322
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 14:14
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Looked for a way to hold Nash on Tuesday since Paul has been so blah but Pho has a 5 in 13 coming up and there are just too many good schedules coming up Wed to hold thru that much red and too much money to be made during that time to hold.
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| | | 39 | KI on new Apple
ID: 4511172713
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 14:20
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stealing neighbor's bandwith at mom!
..... i might add
Relooking at options.. I think Dwight Howard is looming as a much
more important pick-up than Carlos Boozer.....
Looking at the top ten on the sortables there are some intiguing
choices sitting there.... Gerald Wallace, Troy Murphy, Zach
Randolph and Gilbert Arenas.
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| | | 40 | KI on new Apple
ID: 4511172713
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 14:38
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I have alway been a fan of "bar-belling" the 500k cheapies with the
expensive point scorers.... but looking at the list I think I can get
quite a nice roster of risky all-stars!
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| | | 41 | KI on new Apple
ID: 4511172713
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 14:41
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G..... Nash is another one in that bunch... might be a terrific
alternative to Paul if it gets you the right combination elsewhere.
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| | | 42 | Skip To My Lou
ID: 309363017
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 14:58
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Brandon Jennings gamble didn't pay off. I'm sitting on enough $ to get me into Westbrook. What is the team's opinion of his prospects? I could also reshuffle to get Murphy, who is playing excellent. Finally, I'm undecided as to whether Gasol or Durant becomes Paul.
Hmmm...
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| | | 43 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 15:44
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Just playing devils advocate here - is CP3 a must based on the way he's playing?
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| | | 44 | G
ID: 441412322
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 16:45
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IMO both are a must once their respective schedules are 4 games a week. While it is possible both could stay at lower pts/game averages, I wouldn't want to be the one betting against it that many times a week.
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| | | 45 | KI on new Apple
ID: 4511172713
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 17:28
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I like Murphy better than Westbrook.... I think his schedule is
better for longer plus he is less widely held, so more upside...
I think we are getting to to the point in the season were you need
productivity out of every position.... Although I have not seen a
whole lot of talk on our team.... I do not like the idea of forcing a
Chris Paul if that means a 500k guy who is going to be
unproductive in another spot....
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| | | 46 | Phatsow
ID: 3911362613
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 17:32
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Everyone will own Paul as of a week from Wed. Buying him this Tues gives you a faux four game week. Worth it IMHO. The reason Boozer will be popular is price. He's freakin' free. Gonna open up some cap space for a cool move hopefully.
KI, I'm gonna be barbelled to the max and I can't get enough superstars. There's two or three I'd still like to have. I just think the mid-pricey guys don't have great scheds right now, so I'm going low and large...
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| | | 47 | KI on new Apple
ID: 4511172713
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 17:40
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Phatsow..... I would be very interested in who are the lows?
Personally, I do not think see options that I think I trust to get me
a minimum of 18-20TSNP/game.
I like Juwan Howard.... don't really like his schedule.
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| | | 48 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 17:48
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All I know at this point is that Durant/Lebron are going to Paul/Wade. Beyond that, Ariza may go to V Carter and Pau is going to Boozer.
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| | | 49 | Headless T Gunners
ID: 24114313
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 19:54
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So much for differential - it was quick !
Au revoir "Puke" Of Earl (Watson)
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| | | 50 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 19:57
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Beasley sure has been a waste of time. Dang blow out isn't helping either
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| | | 51 | G
ID: 441412322
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 20:30
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Beasley should be a 28 pt guy but he sure has has been bad.
Looks like I am going to force my team for next week and go Evans to Rondo for 2 games since there is no one else I want right now.
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| | | 52 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 20:35
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I'm gonna wait and see with Tyreke. If I have to, I'll move him pre-game tomorrow to Deng. Really screws up other plans with Lebron/Durant, but at least I can hold them thru refresh.
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| | | 53 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 20:51
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Just read more on him and it does not look good. I have to take a guard since my other flex is frozen @ F. Anyone else see a better options for less than 6.2 mil?
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ID: 441412322
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 21:01
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scratch Rondo. It messes up too many other plans. Need to go same or cheaper. That has me staring at L Williams but even then I find myself hoping AI I and II don't destroy his nice start to the season.
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| | | 55 | G
ID: 441412322
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 21:11
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Back to Rondo. I can hold Rondo if I want and he has just as many games as anyone through 1/14 that I would want to buy. This guy has been a bargain.
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| | | 56 | G
ID: 441412322
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 21:34
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Now out of Rondo and Williams. Thinking long term cheapie is the best way to go since Studs are key now. Ugh this bites.
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| | | 57 | G
ID: 441412322
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 21:56
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Just looked at Westbrook too. I just know I wont want him early next week. He has a three game week so he will get sold off on Wed and probably again on Saturday so it seems like sell a guy who will lose money for another who will lose money. Ugh!
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| | | 58 | Headless T Gunners
ID: 24114313
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 22:07
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I went Tyreke-Deng but I'm still thinking jennings
my window now of Nash-> Paul is 120
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| | | 59 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 22:07
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I'm down to 3:
Westbrook - B2B, then 3 & 3
L Williams - 4 next week, then 3 & 3. Doesn't look like he's back to form yet.
Deng - next game is Tues, but if Tyreke doesn't play, it's a wash. Same sched as Williams pretty much.
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| | | 60 | KI on new Apple
ID: 4511172713
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 22:41
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To trade Evans tonight.... I have 5.05 or less to spend and ive got
to get a guard...
I'd be stuck gambling on something like Kirk Hinrich.... maybe I
just hold for a night.
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| | | 61 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 22:45
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I just picked up L Williams. Had to take a G and save cash to upgrade Ariza.
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| | | 62 | KI on new Apple
ID: 4511172713
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 22:54
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OK... Lou Williams looks like he will at least net me some Kash!
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| | | 63 | KI on new Apple
ID: 4511172713
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 22:56
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Phew..... didn't go 'invalid' tonight.
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| | | 64 | G
ID: 441412322
Sun, Dec 27, 2009, 22:58
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Going C Brewer. Like the cheap G/F as much as I don't love him, it will give me great flexibility in the weeks to come.
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| | | 65 | Phatsow
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ID: 2210292621
Mon, Dec 28, 2009, 04:50
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47,
I've got D. Wright - lame 18ppg for the min with 4 game weeks and flex.
Casspi - Has kicked ass but the sched bumps on 1/3.
Going into Q. Rich. Got that killer Miami sched and flex. 1.40, not that great for a starter but whatdya want for that price?
Will probably keep both Miami guys until I clear some cap room from LeBron. Probably upgrade Casspi when his sched ebbs.
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| | | 67 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Mon, Dec 28, 2009, 22:46
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I can't afford to take another RV hit, so I went Ariza > Deng. Wanted the G/F combo for all the moves I have to make after refresh tomorrow night.
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| | | 68 | kentucky indians
ID: 310371711
Mon, Dec 28, 2009, 23:38
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Trading Ariza on injury news is a good move..... Highly owned played with a schedule that is drying up... even if he puts up 50TSNP tomorrow that is a good move... We can argue weather or not Deng is the right choice -- not that I have anything against him -- and time will tell if he is the right choice... nice move M4L!
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| | | 69 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Mon, Dec 28, 2009, 23:40
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It was him, Noah or V Carter. Went with consistency and the G/F option. I hope it works out too...LOL
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| | | 70 | Skip To My Lou
ID: 309363017
Tue, Dec 29, 2009, 00:35
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Got stuck in the Seattle airport after a cancelled flight without net access. At that time, Evans and Ariza were expected to play. When I finally get back online, I'm greeted by the worst possible scenario.
Ugh.
Sigh.
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| | | 72 | G
Donor
ID: 5810561615
Tue, Dec 29, 2009, 13:15
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Went Nash to Paul and Thompson to Love today with plans to hold both for a long time. The big question comes tomorrow. Wade will come on board from Kobe. After that, nothing is set in stone. Gasol could be held since he may get buys back later in the week. He could also become one of the studs available on Wed. By adding C Brewer I have unlimted flex on who that stud could be but the options seem to be Boozer, D Willy and Howard.
My biggest issue right now is one of trade shortage due to the recent injuries. If I did what I really wanted to do, I would be tradeless on Friday. That doesn't seem to be a great idea the way things are going lately.
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| | | 73 | Phatsow
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ID: 2210292621
Tue, Dec 29, 2009, 13:32
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Did Nash >>> Paul. Kobe >>> Wade and Gasol >>> Boozer 2morrow. Tyreke's inury actually just set my plans forward a half a week. Don't hafta make any trades the rest of the week, but barring injuries I'll have some cap to spend on upgrades. We'll sit back for a few days and see what happens...
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| | | 74 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Tue, Dec 29, 2009, 13:39
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Going Durant/Lebron > Wade/Paul after refresh. Might move Pau > Boozer, but I'm considering holding Pau one more week. Beasley > Love on 1/1 if Beasley continues to suck.
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| | | 75 | Phatsow
Sustainer
ID: 2210292621
Tue, Dec 29, 2009, 15:45
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M4L,
I hope you don't mean you'll do LeBron for Paul on Wed, cause you're giving up a game that way. No amount of extra money is worth a game of LeBron. If he's your way into Paul, do it on 1/04.
If ya don't blow out Pau on Wed, I'd hold him for his next 7 games. You'll lose RV but he'll still be a great value. I'm making the move for the immediate two game advantage, the money swing and the cap room. Go Casspi!
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| | | 76 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Tue, Dec 29, 2009, 16:04
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In order to get Wade, I have to make at least two trades. Weighing options:
A: Lebron/Durant/Pau > Wade, Boozer & Howard/Paul; If I chose Howard, my only way into Paul is from Duncan which makes no sense.
B: Durant & Lebron/Pau > Wade & Howard/Boozer/Paul.
Ariza and Evans injuries really threw a wrench in my plans.
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| | | 77 | Phatsow
Sustainer
ID: 2210292621
Tue, Dec 29, 2009, 17:25
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Can U just do Durant >>> Wade and Gasol >>> Boozer? That should leave ya enough money, even if you're up against the cap and the positions should work. That way you can go LeBron to Paul on the 4th...
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| | | 78 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Tue, Dec 29, 2009, 18:30
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Yeah, that does work. No injuries this week would be helpful...LOL
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| | | 79 | G
ID: 441412322
Tue, Dec 29, 2009, 18:34
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Changed my mind. Going Nash to Paul and Thompson to Noah instead of Love. I don't like that Love will be sold Su - Tu and Noah should make some coin on Thursday.
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| | | 81 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Wed, Dec 30, 2009, 02:08
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Ugliest thing I see on my roster is three MIA players. Only one is doing anything lately..LOL
Lebron > Paul on 1/4
Thompson > Haywood, Blair or ? on 1/3
Would hold Thompson if injury bug hits or Beasley gets worse (hard to imagine).
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| | | 83 | Headless T Gunners
ID: 181117294
Wed, Dec 30, 2009, 05:53
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Decided to keep Gasol instead of Duncan...Went: Duncan/Ariza -> Wade/Blair
Tired of watching Duncan dominate for half a game
Would it have been crazy to go Duncan/Ariza/Lebron -> Wade/Randolph/Wallace?
A little limited on sked but those 2 guys have been special of late
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| | | 85 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Wed, Dec 30, 2009, 11:32
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Plan is moving Kobe/Pau=> Wade/Boozer, although I hate to part with either one of them.
Any thoughts to moving TD=> Boozer instead of Pau? They both play the same # of games through 1/15, I doubt I'd hold either one that long, although it does reduce my margin for a future move from $550k to $400K.
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| | | 86 | Phatsow
Sustainer
ID: 2210292621
Wed, Dec 30, 2009, 11:41
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Yeah, main reason I'm going Pau to Booz is cap room and ownership. They're probably equivalent values considering their cost. I get to use the money elsewhere which should gimmie more points in the long run.
Keeping Duncan for the LOOOONNNNGGGG haul.
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| | | 87 | Headless T Gunners
ID: 24114313
Wed, Dec 30, 2009, 12:15
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FWIW - games per week upcoming
Duncans 3-4-4-3-3-4-1
P. Gasol 3-4-3-4-4-4-2
You Lose 1 game in next 3 weeks but than everyone will be buying back into Gasol with 4 full weeks in a row
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| | | 88 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Wed, Dec 30, 2009, 12:31
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Man, this week has sucked. I get 200 pts last night while everyone else gets 300+. Have I got too many $3-4 mil cheapies on my roster?
Jennings - 3.66
Williams - 3.76
Deng - 5.83
Wade - 10.85
Beasley - 3.96
Wright - .51
James - 12.55
Boozer - 7.50
Thompson - 4.25
1.63 in cash
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| | | 89 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Wed, Dec 30, 2009, 12:45
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You also had only 5 playing last night it looks like while some might have had 9 ( I know I did )
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| | | 90 | Headless T Gunners
ID: 24114313
Wed, Dec 30, 2009, 15:16
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Gonna keep Gasol - will lose hundreds of thousands...so it goes
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| | | 91 | G
ID: 20291015
Wed, Dec 30, 2009, 18:42
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No easy decisions today the way the studs have been playing but Kobe to Wade 4sure. Still looking at all kinds of other situations and trying not to go tradeless.
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| | | 92 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Wed, Dec 30, 2009, 18:44
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Question: would I be making a really big mistake by going Lebron to someone cheaper than Paul? My thinking is that I would free up more cash to upgrade Thompson to Arenas on 1/6. My options from Lebron might be D West (NO) or back to Pau. Just thinking out loud.
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| | | 93 | kentucky indians
ID: 310371711
Wed, Dec 30, 2009, 20:25
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I blew my team up today.... traded Lebron(boy I might regret that?)/Love/Kyle Lowry(how did he get there?) to Dwight Howard/Dujuan Blair/Dewayne Wade....
so M4L -- no I do not think trading Lebron is a bad idea.
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| | | 94 | kentucky indians
ID: 310371711
Wed, Dec 30, 2009, 22:48
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Lets see... I traded away Lebron(77 TSNP) and Love(52.5 TSNP) for Howard (40 TSNP) and Wade (33 TSNP)... TWO trades nets me MINUS 56.5 TSNP so far...
That has got to rank right up there with the ALL TIME best blunders!!!
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| | | 95 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Wed, Dec 30, 2009, 22:49
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Does anyone else here own D Wright? If not, you can't touch that blunder...
One more game like tonight and I may have to waste a trade.
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| | | 96 | Phatsow
Sustainer
ID: 2210292621
Thu, Dec 31, 2009, 05:17
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I am a proud owner of that thing called a Dorell Wright. But only for one more game. He's leaving Friday for a player I call "Not Dorell Wright", who's position and cost have yet to be determined...
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| | | 98 | Skip to My Lou
ID: 48943810
Thu, Dec 31, 2009, 10:38
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Doing some planning today with LeBron and Brandon Jennings still on my roster and two trades left. Instead of moving Jennings to a lesser guard at the same price (I have little banked $), I'm leaning toward holding both until 1/5 when I'll trade LeBron for Arenas, which would give me $8.36 for a G/F/C (Randolph, Monta, M. Gasol, or gerald Wallace most likely).
Thoughts on this? The alternative would be to ditch LeBron for Duncan today and use the extra money for a < $7.26 G -- which doesn't lead to a particularly attractive player IMO.
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| | | 99 | DrD
Donor
ID: 034735159
Thu, Dec 31, 2009, 11:49
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Would not trade LeBron for Duncan today. On 5th, trade Lebron for Arenas and then Jennings to Gasol as the safe bet or Randolph, Wallace or Ellis as a flier in that order. Good luck!
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| | | 100 | DrD
Donor
ID: 034735159
Thu, Dec 31, 2009, 11:55
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Sorry, as I am kind of a newbie to this and should not be putting in my 2-cents worth to a member of a different team. Sorry! Maybe I should preface it with "Intruder".
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| | | 101 | Phatsow
Sustainer
ID: 2210292621
Thu, Dec 31, 2009, 13:18
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100
Bro, all opinions are welcome. Don't apologize for having one. ;)
That's what these forums are for, to exchange ideas and come up with combos we haven't thought of on our own.
Personally, I don't know what the rush to trade LeBron is for. You can have all of my money I've got stored in him. I'm holding until 1/12 when the schedule really hic-cups.
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| | | 102 | Headless T Gunners
ID: 24114313
Thu, Dec 31, 2009, 15:53
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Amen - Holding LeBron until Jan 12
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| | | 103 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Dec 31, 2009, 15:54
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Holding LeBron to 1/12 as well.
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| | | 104 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Thu, Dec 31, 2009, 16:40
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I could have a choice between a guy that averages 30-35/game and another that is blind, deaf and has no legs. The latter would outpoint the first in my case.
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| | | 105 | G
ID: 441412322
Thu, Dec 31, 2009, 17:54
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The only way a trade of Lebron makes sense is if the guy you buy + the new guy you upgrade to project to outpoint holding Lebron and the other guy you are holding + two trades. Of course Lebron will bleed now and then as people find new options but Lebron is officially relevant again.
As for Jennings, I think his schedule is just about to take off and most still need sub $8 mil guys so trading him just before the Mil schedule goes green seems odd.
I am tapped out on trade plans for the week (1 left) and I am trying to shift from hard $ gaining mode into trade conservation mode a little. Last week was a little scary so I would like to get to point where I would be carrying 4-8 trades in the bank over the next couple weeks.
A safe and happy New Year wish to all of the team and Gurupies
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| | | 106 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Thu, Dec 31, 2009, 18:04
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I keep banging my head against the wall trying to figure out a way to have Wade, Paul and Lebron at the same time - not gonna happen. Unless D Wright does something tonight, I may have to do the unthinkable and waste a trade on another sub-mil cheapie. Looked at downgrading Thompson to Blair right now, but I just can't figure it out...
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| | | 107 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Thu, Dec 31, 2009, 18:37
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102/103 - I'm too cash-strapped to have both Lebron and Paul. Lebron > Paul on 1/4 and I don't see a way to get Lebron for the following week without trading Duncan...
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| | | 108 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Thu, Dec 31, 2009, 18:50
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Money, I don't see anyway you can add Paul and keep Lebron, short of trading someone with like Boozer or Duncan, and that doesn't make sense, so I'd just plan on Lebron=> Paul on 1/4. And I wouldn't buy him back form Duncan. Look beyond week to week trading.
I think your stuck with Dorell for the week, unless you want to hold Thompson. So I think I'd move Thompson to maybe Blair ( tonight ), maybe Frye ( after another game ). That gives some cash to move Dorell next week. Who knows, maybe he picks things up. At least he can't lose any money.
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| | | 109 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Thu, Dec 31, 2009, 19:00
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Went ahead and moved Thompson to Blair. Lebron to Paul on 1/4 will free up another 1 mil or so giving me 5.7 mil in the bank to get Arenas from Beasley or Deng (whichever sucks more the next few days). LOL I gotta have faith that Wright will get back to the 20 min/game.
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| | | 111 | G
ID: 441412322
Fri, Jan 01, 2010, 14:18
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The news on Arenas is even worse than I thought. He was in my plans last week until I saw the news on 12-24. my first thought was at least a game suspension because I don't think the league would take something like this lightly. If he really pulled it on a teammate I would now suspect multiple games. On 12/25 I revised my plans to be able skip Arenas if my assumptions were correct and I will pass on him until it is clear the situation has been dealt with.
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| | | 112 | G
ID: 441412322
Fri, Jan 01, 2010, 14:36
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$4ltr,
Pending the news on Arenas, after you go James to Paul, you may want to look at Gasol as solid option or at a minimum a back-up plan.
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| | | 113 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Fri, Jan 01, 2010, 14:56
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Yeah, Arenas. What a moron. I bought Westbrook a bit ago, for the express purpose of turning him into Arenas. Maybe by Tuesday we'll know something. Otherwise it's back to the drawing board. And unless I do something else, I'll need a G.
I suppose I could do worse than just holding Westbrook, his schedule goes a bit after his 1-4 and he's been pretty good of late.
So I probably just jinxed him.
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| | | 117 | Phatsow
Sustainer
ID: 2210292621
Mon, Jan 04, 2010, 12:45
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So from the money totals on this page, it looks like we ALL kept K. Love. That Odom move doesn't appear to be the wisest trade ever conceived but it could turn out making those managers smell like roses if Gasol misses a chunk o' time. I do think the smart move is to hold for Love's 4-3-early 3. We'll see how this works out...
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| | | 118 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Mon, Jan 04, 2010, 15:32
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Went Lebron to Paul and have 5.59 mil in the bank.
Have to decide what to do this week with Wright and Deng. Probably pickup Love and Haywood. Not gonna touch Arenas (he might pull a gun on me). I'd like to get Lebron back, but I don't think I'd move Duncan to do it.
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| | | 119 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Mon, Jan 04, 2010, 19:22
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Three of us have Pau, he's now listed as doubtfull. Any plans?
I'm aborting my idea of moving Westbrook to Arenas. I have to figure he's in line for a suspension of some sort, or worse.
Westbrook been pretty spectacular and is holdable, but I'm thinking of moving him to Nash after tonight. It picks up a game early and Nash's schedule goes into a 4 and then 5 game week. Should be good for points and $.
Which has me thinking.. most all will have Wade/Paul as two guards. I think Nash will be popular. And soon Kobe and Tyreke become options. I guess you can throw Jennings into the mix, but I'm skipping, he just hasn't been as good as early on.
Going to hard to squeeze everyone in..
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| | | 120 | Headless T Gunners
ID: 24114313
Mon, Jan 04, 2010, 20:01
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Went Pau -> Casspi
planning Beasley -> Nash and then Deng -> Duncan
Beasley going off early again worries me
what if this guy takes off and plays 4 quarters?
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| | | 121 | Headless T Gunners
ID: 24114313
Mon, Jan 04, 2010, 20:42
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In that case - what about keeping Beasley and doing
Blair/Deng -> Nash & Randolph?
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| | | 122 | KI on new Apple
ID: 4511172713
Mon, Jan 04, 2010, 21:34
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I went OUT of Duncan to David West today...
That coming off the bench yesterday leads me to think he is less
than 100% and that has me thinking he will be LESS productive
during 4 games in 5 days.
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| | | 123 | G
ID: 81139621
Mon, Jan 04, 2010, 21:49
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I am not sure what to think about D West.
Theree seem to be a lot of other options.
The Duncan off the bench decision may be a blessing to his owners if Pops is doing that instead of random DNP's. I would imagine owners would rather have him come off the bench once every few weeks than take a 0 from a DNP.
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| | | 124 | kentucky indians
ID: 310371711
Tue, Jan 05, 2010, 00:15
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G,
Bought Duncan on 12/3 for $8.39M.... sold today for $8.9M... He has performed very well.... West plays 16 games in 27 nights... Averaging modest numbers that are BELOW last years averages... Im a 'homer' and he played for Xavier... OPTIMISTICALLY hoping for 35 TSNP per night (which is what is is averaging lately).... Got me a NICE 43 TSNP tonight.... Time will tell... Every once in a while I make a good move... I hope West does as well for me as Duncan did.
KI
ps. rest of team... look at scoreboard! Listen to G and not me.
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| | | 125 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Tue, Jan 05, 2010, 00:20
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I've been in "RV quicksand" for 2 weeks now. Can't seem to make a dime on any move. Nothing figured out for this week.
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| | | 127 | Skip to My Lou
ID: 48943810
Tue, Jan 05, 2010, 11:24
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I'm interested in everyone's opinions of not only Gilbert Arenas's situation but also that of the Wizards, generally.
I think people are reflexively deciding to stay away from Gilbert and that might not be necessary. Given the potential severity of the punishment that could await Arenas (jail, indefinite suspension, loss of $100 million), I wouldn't be surprised if it is sometime before action is taken (read: 10 days to two weeks). That's just a guess, but my gut says that they allow the investigation to proceed until complete and then take action, rather than preemptively suspending him. Thus, I think GA could make a risky, but potentially productive differentiation play. One concern is that he'll be distracted and that his play will suffer. Then again, maybe the court will become the one place he can get away from this mess he's created and he'll play up to par. Like I said: big risk/potentially big reward.
The other side of the coin is what happens if Arenas is suddenly removed from the scene in D.C. Who does this benefit most as they head into a 28 day period in which they are set to play 16 times(!)? Wouldn't Randy Foye be the obvious replacement at starting PG? Would they dare give Earl B more than 30 minutes a game? And don't both Caron Butler and Antawn Jamison stand to benefit greatly if Gilbert isn't around to shoot up all their balls?
I would love some clarity on what is going to happen there prior to tip tonight -- though I doubt we'll get it.
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| | | 128 | Phatsow
Sustainer
ID: 2210292621
Tue, Jan 05, 2010, 11:25
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Took Lebron, Duncan and Love to the face last night (and NONE of them play tonight, ouch). Getting Nash from Noah tonight (might be the only person making that trade but its my way in). Planning on doing Lebron for a B2B of D. Howard next Tues and then going right back in on the following Thurs. He's been averaging 55ish in the last two weeks. Don't really wanna have him off my roster at any point. Boozer will go on Sunday for someone...
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| | | 129 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Tue, Jan 05, 2010, 20:56
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KI
Don't forget Waiver Draft tomorrow...
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| | | 130 | kentucky indians
ID: 310371711
Tue, Jan 05, 2010, 21:08
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STML,
Re 127....If I recall correctly, Caron Butler was a better scorer last year....
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/stats?playerId=1705
3.6ppg
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| | | 131 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Tue, Jan 05, 2010, 22:47
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I'm glad Deng finally decided to show up. Felling like blowing up my whole team though. Bleh
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| | | 132 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Jan 06, 2010, 08:05
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If you are unsure what the column header means, hover over it with your mouse.
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GURUPATRON BONUS MATERIAL
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Click on the column header once for the default sort order.
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| Rank | GurupieName | LSWP0 | LSWP | LSWP5 | WWR | FV | Cash | RV | FVC | Trades | | 1 | k-Dave R-10016105 | 8114 | 153 | 2834 | 12 | 69.47 | 0.89 | 68.58 | -0.16 | 5 | | 2 | k-Phatsow-10367913 | 7923.5 | 125 | 2648.5 | 16 | 68.34 | 0.15 | 68.19 | 0.13 | 8 | | 3 | k-G-10188729 | 7896 | 216 | 2575.5 | 14 | 69.75 | 0.87 | 68.88 | 0.19 | 4 | | 4 | k-Headless T Gunners-10278243 | 7637 | 154.5 | 2413 | 91 | 64.64 | 0.81 | 63.83 | 0.23 | 5 | | 5 | k-Guru-10002682 | 7612 | 78.5 | 2561.5 | 62 | 65.23 | 2.04 | 63.19 | -0.27 | 6 | | 6 | k-money4later-10023470 | 7529.5 | 80.5 | 2290.5 | 115 | 63.68 | 5.59 | 58.09 | -0.36 | 4 | | 7 | k-Skip to My Lou-10009111 | 7243.5 | 103 | 2368 | 171 | 61.55 | 0.49 | 61.06 | 0.01 | 5 | | 8 | k-soetal1-10062956 | 7119.5 | 134.5 | 2122.5 | 330 | 59.94 | 13.07 | 46.87 | -0.36 | 4 | | 9 | k-Donkey Hunter-10972105 | 7046 | 49.5 | 2048 | 332 | 57.66 | 0.47 | 57.19 | -0.18 | 4 | | 10 | k-Kentucky Indians-10431014 | 7040 | 92.5 | 2352 | 325 | 61.91 | 2.13 | 59.78 | -0.31 | 7 |
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| | | 133 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Wed, Jan 06, 2010, 09:23
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Not sure what I'm doing yet (5.59 in the bank). Haywood was in my plans, but he's a question mark now. Love? CDR? Odom looked awesome last night, but who knows when Pau will be back.
Jennings - hold
L Williams - time to go
Paul & Wade - holds
Beasley - hold?
Wright (G/F) - hate trading players the night they play, but he's an obvious trade.
Boozer (F/C) -hold thru weekend?
Deng (G/F) - not sure what to do
Duncan & Blair (both F/C's) - holds
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| | | 134 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Wed, Jan 06, 2010, 10:29
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Money, I might consider:
1) Williams/Deng=> Nash/Frye. Solid 3 week holds
2) Stay put then until Boozer goes, then package Boozer and Dorell for G. Wallace and ? or
3) package Boozer and Beasley for Wallace and either Kaman or Camby
or you could get Tyreke early from Louis, and just hold Deng until Boozer goes and decide what to do with eveyone then. Actually I think you can afford Nash and hold Deng
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| | | 135 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Wed, Jan 06, 2010, 14:26
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KI,
Any chance you can check in in the Waiver Draft ?
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| | | 136 | G
ID: 441412322
Wed, Jan 06, 2010, 15:09
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RE 133
post 134 looks pretty good
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| | | 137 | money4later
ID: 2111213116
Wed, Jan 06, 2010, 15:30
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Bouncing back and forth on whether to hold Deng. Leaning toward the 1st option there. Thanks a ton for the idea.
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