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Subject: Kentucky Indians GMD - TP5


  Posted by: Guru - [330592710] Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 10:06

Next biweekly period. Here goes...
 
2Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 13:44
I would imagine Pau will be a popular addition today. Who are people moving to him?

I can grab him from just about anyone including my recent addition, Hibbert. Hate to go that route, but with the news of a possible lineup shuffle in Indy, he might be the choice.
 
3money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 15:17
I really need some expert advice right now. I have:
Jennings, Nash, Wade, Paul
Beasley, Jackson, Barnes, Jamison
Hibbert, Randolph
and 1.37 in the bank. Schedule-wise, I could stay put and not move anyone. Or, I could move Jamison and Beasley/Jennings for Pau and Dalembert. Beasley drives me crazy, but is his good sched worth keeping him?
 
4money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 15:56
Had to go back to work and won't be home before tip-off. Went Jennings/Jamison > Pau/Dalembert.

So much for banking trades. I'm hitting the proverbial wall in my season.
 
7money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sat, Jan 23, 2010, 17:08
Thinking about Randolph > Kenyon Martin right now, then S-Jax > Randolph on 1/27. Would you guys think that's efficient enough or not? Otherwise, I'm staying put with my roster.
 
8Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Sat, Jan 23, 2010, 18:42
I wouldn't go near that MFL. Hold Zach. He's gonna bleed a little tonight but he'll make that back on Monday. Then of course he'll make a ton on Wed.
 
9G
      ID: 441412322
      Sat, Jan 23, 2010, 18:53
I wouldn't either
 
10money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sat, Jan 23, 2010, 19:00
Cool, was leaning on "no". Thank you
 
12Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Sun, Jan 24, 2010, 08:45
Anyone thinking of trading Hibbert today?
Figure he needs to go soon anyway, I'm thinking of Camby, Kaman or Zach ( early )

Any thoughts?
 
13KI on new Apple
      ID: 4511172713
      Sun, Jan 24, 2010, 09:36
I need to try Noah today... so I too will need to buy a F or C... I'm
thinking of Lamar Odom as well...
 
14Phatsow
      ID: 450512412
      Sun, Jan 24, 2010, 13:51
12,
Not on that line myself but I am going Z BO on Wed. Camby is absolutely boom or bust. Kaman is a smooth option but Zach will likely out-earn him in the short term...
 
15kentucky indians
      ID: 310371711
      Sun, Jan 24, 2010, 14:08
Lamar Odom (a guy coming off the bench) just does not feel like a winning move from Noah...

To get to Gasol I need to package Teyeke and someone else.
 
16money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sun, Jan 24, 2010, 14:22
I can't see any moves I should make today. I'm shocked I have 2 trades left on a Sunday...LOL
 
17Phatsow
      ID: 210412414
      Sun, Jan 24, 2010, 15:41
KI,

Do you have the cash and flex to go to Rose from Noah? You inherit the same sched and he's been playing pretty well lately. Kinda just throwin that out there. Don't know that I'd do it meself, but its probably better than Odom.
 
18kentucky indians
      ID: 310371711
      Sun, Jan 24, 2010, 17:31
don't have a G/F flex...
Could go Tyreke to Rose but then need a $4M Forward or Center
 
19Phatsow
      ID: 210412414
      Sun, Jan 24, 2010, 17:33
Rudy Gay?
 
20money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sun, Jan 24, 2010, 18:15
That little voice inside my head is telling me to sell Hibbert. Only one I can think of is Delfino.
 
21kentucky indians
      ID: 310371711
      Sun, Jan 24, 2010, 18:35
Decided its really the wrong day to buy a Bull.... Noah to Odom for a short hold, keep the guard trade a and hold Tyreke... Use the second trade to get out of Odom early after the 9 games in 14 days.
 
22kentucky indians
      ID: 310371711
      Sun, Jan 24, 2010, 18:43
thought about Delfino, but he's the kind of buy that one or two bad games and and he goes back to nothing with Ilyasova getting the job back.. My $0.5M guy worth watch -- J.J.Hickson in Cleveland? He seems to be getting the extra minuets with LeBron playing point with all there guards hurt.
 
23money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sun, Jan 24, 2010, 22:57
Barring injuries and other BS, gonna make 2 trades tomorrow night: Hibbert/Nash > Delfino (or other cheapie)/Kobe
 
25kentucky indians
      ID: 310371711
      Mon, Jan 25, 2010, 22:18
Scratch that Hickson thought...
 
26money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Tue, Jan 26, 2010, 00:36
25 - blown up! LOL

Now that Nash throws up a 50, would getting Kobe from him be a good move, or just a lateral one?
 
27Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Tue, Jan 26, 2010, 04:01
Depends on if you wanna keep Kobe through his sched. Personally I think there are better values out there at G. Curry for one.
 
29money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Tue, Jan 26, 2010, 15:37
Really hard decision (Hibbert > Delfino). Both have good schedules right after the break. Gonna wait to move Nash until after tonight's game. Too afraid to get Kobe. Looking at Rondo, J Smith (ATL) or B Lopez (NJ).
 
30Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Tue, Jan 26, 2010, 18:10
For short term money, Hibb > Delfino could be a 300K switch tonight. There are plenty of good scheds starting this week. Kobe's good, but I don't trust him with his injuries. Time will tell, but there are probably safer options.
 
31money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Tue, Jan 26, 2010, 23:51
Bets one to get from Nash?

a) Rondo
b) J Smith (ATL)
c) B Lopez (NJ)
d) Durant
e) Other
 
32KI on new Apple
      ID: 4511172713
      Wed, Jan 27, 2010, 00:02
Lopez
 
33Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Wed, Jan 27, 2010, 05:10
2nd that
 
35money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Wed, Jan 27, 2010, 15:38
Nash/S-Jax > B Lopez/J Smith

Nothing else barring injuries...
 
36Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Jan 27, 2010, 15:52
Nash=>Rondo
G.Wallace=>B.Lopez

and then, those trades provide enough cash to move
R.Lopez=>M.Gasol

Leaves me with only 2 trades for the rest of the week, but no plans for either of those (yet).

I realize that Wallace wasn't necessarily a must-sell, but since his gimpy ankle, he hasn't been up to snuff. Plus, if I held him instead of Lopez or Gasol, then I would have had to take Billups instead of Rondo - or perhaps sell Dalembert instead of R.Lopez. Must confess, though, that I did give both those options some serious consideration.
 
37G
      Donor
      ID: 5810561615
      Wed, Jan 27, 2010, 16:43
Brace yourselves, I am moving back into James so he should become a consistent 45 pt guy for the next several weeks. Also adding Rondo and M Gasol from Nash/Wallace/Jamison
 
38matic
      ID: 320472715
      Wed, Jan 27, 2010, 16:47
intruder

why are so many people going with rondo from nash and not josh smith or kobe. Were you planning on holding rondo past his 4 in 5 and through hi 2 in 6.

Jus seems weird that people are passing on those whose schedule starts with a game today.
 
39Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Wed, Jan 27, 2010, 16:58
38

I imagine most people planned on getting Monta from Nash and his injury throws a wrench into that. Rondo is the next best replacement. Kobe's been good for a couple of games but before that he was unownable.
 
40Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Jan 27, 2010, 17:15
Kobe's issue is cost - and perhaps performance. His last few have been OK, but it's hard to ignore the week before that.

Josh plays today, but Rondo plays 4 in the next 6, while Josh plays only 3 in the next 6. In fact, Josh doesn't have a cumulative schedule advantage over Rondo until Feb 9. Over the next 12 days both play 7 times.

One option is to swap Rondo to Smith on Feb 2 and pick up the extra game. I don't necessarily plan that, but it's a possibility if I have "Rondo regret." Smith may also be a viable replacement for some other injured player.

It's not an automatic call, however. Nothing wrong with taking Smith over Rondo today.
 
41matic
      ID: 270252716
      Wed, Jan 27, 2010, 17:25
while were on the subject of this week's studs
anyone looking at possibly D HOW

theres alot of players that can be trades after todays game like Camby/ Bogut/ Bdavis

d howards been putting up almsot 50 a game for his last 15 days..he could be a popular pickup tommorow and can be held til ASB
 
42kentucky indians
      ID: 310371711
      Wed, Jan 27, 2010, 19:27
I"m really not doing my planning well right now.... I sitting here staring at Channing Friggin Frye on my team (coming off the bench on a dry day in the schedule).... He's SCREAMING to me; "trade ME!!!"... And Brooke Lopez is the guy I really want, but I did not plan for the money for that!! Could have taken Delfino Yesterday instead of Maggette and then I could have gone to Lopez...

Frye to Ben Wallace?? That just does does not feel like the move of a champion. KI, You SUCK!!!
 
43kentucky indians
      ID: 310371711
      Wed, Jan 27, 2010, 22:20
G,
(re #37) down to 42 TSNP tonight.... 5 better than Ben Wallace...
LOL
 
44money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Thu, Jan 28, 2010, 00:57
Off in the not so far future, I've gotta figure out Dalembert. Beasley to Rondo will use up my cash.
 
46money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Thu, Jan 28, 2010, 20:19
I can already see this happening. Barnes is gonna be gone tonight. Humphries or Thornton. Probably the latter...
 
47kentucky indians
      ID: 310371711
      Thu, Jan 28, 2010, 21:39
Disclaimer notice
... Mind you all, this is coming from the guy who bought Ben Wallace last night!

Just got home and I need to figure out what to do with Michael Beasley... have no money so I've got to go same or cheaper and I cannot buy a Guard... pulled up the 15 sortibles looking for an answer... the highest ranked guy that pops up is.... Richard Hamilton??????

Am I living in the past? Is this 2004?? Is someone playing a joke on me???

 
48money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Thu, Jan 28, 2010, 21:45
Guru and his damn time machine...
 
49Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Thu, Jan 28, 2010, 22:12
KI, you're REALLY gonna be in trouble if you pick up Chauncy, TaShaun and Sheed too...
 
50Headless T Gunners
      ID: 24114313
      Fri, Jan 29, 2010, 04:18
Hey
picked up Hamilton on what is now my highest ranking team
he's all they've got in Detroit
 
51kentucky indians
      ID: 310371711
      Fri, Jan 29, 2010, 06:27
Billups is on the sortables.... Just haven't figured him in yet!!
LMAO

I've always limited myself to TWO players MAX! from a single real team. Wallace and RIP will have to do.

HMMM... How about an action thread title? "RIP(Van Winkle) buys RIP(Hamilton)" I kind of like it??
 
52kentucky indians
      ID: 310371711
      Fri, Jan 29, 2010, 06:36
Hold on.... Back to the drawing board..
Chauncey DOESN'T play for the real Piston's anymore!!!!
I can probably try to figure a plan to get him and Sheed.
 
54money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Fri, Jan 29, 2010, 10:00
Really want to ditch Barnes, but I can't pull the trigger on another NJ player (Humphries) or Thornton. I'll try to be patient and hold him through hi 5 in 7 up to the break.
 
55ki @ work
      ID: 2836246
      Fri, Jan 29, 2010, 10:15
M4L,
There are a plethoria of Piston's available in your price range...
2004 Piston's roster
I think they have a shot to win it all this year. Not sure about that #1 pick Milici? Mehmet Okur has been outplaying him lately. The bench is alot stronger than people realize.
 
56money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Fri, Jan 29, 2010, 15:19
I was gonna post something to that effect. They haven't added Rodman yet, but there's hope...LOL
 
58kentucky indians
      ID: 310371711
      Sat, Jan 30, 2010, 12:39
Paul to Howard anyone??
 
59money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sat, Jan 30, 2010, 12:43
That's scary. I was just going to the thread to post the same thing. Dwight's doomed! LOL

The news hasn't looked good about Paul, so that's what I'm doing.
 
60Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Jan 30, 2010, 14:16
I was leaning toward Paul=>Kobe. Let's me wait until gametime to decide. Dwight starts an hour earlier, so that move would have to be made before Paul's status is likely known.
 
61matic
      ID: 330463014
      Sat, Jan 30, 2010, 15:46
people without flex would probably be forced into getting Kobe, assuming everyone already having wade I don't see any other option

I wonder if anyone would have the balls to pick up kevin martin for SAC's schedule stretch

if he reverts back to a 35+ tsnp guy would be a great bargain
 
62money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sat, Jan 30, 2010, 16:15
Living near Sacramento and being a huge Kings fan, I'm staying away from KMart. Tyreke will continue to push 35+, but his ownership is too high to be bought now. One caveat, if KMart has found his shot (we'll see tonight), I might change my mind.
 
63money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sat, Jan 30, 2010, 16:17
Just saw that Wade left yesterday's game briefly with back stiffness. he said it was sore on Wednesday also...
 
64Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Sat, Jan 30, 2010, 17:44
Gonna gametime Paul and if he's out, I'll go for David Lee. His game starts at the same time as Paul's. I'd go Kobe if Paul was out for a long time but it doesn't sound like that's the case. Rather just do an in and out for the game advantage.
 
65kentucky indians
      ID: 310371711
      Sat, Jan 30, 2010, 18:07
David Lee.... that's awfully short term hold???
... AAAHH.... wait a min... thats the luxury of being trade rich!
 
66Phatsow@work
      ID: 530373018
      Sat, Jan 30, 2010, 19:37
Okay, now that I know he's definitely out. (and a while before gametime) its Kobe for sher. There's a way to get back into Paul if he's okay in a few games, but its too much of a risk to think that he'll play against Phoenix...
 
68money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sun, Jan 31, 2010, 00:51
I need to be kicked in the nuts for holding on to Barnes this long. I must love the anguish...
 
70money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sun, Jan 31, 2010, 13:40
Seriously considering Barnes to Curry before the games tonight.
 
71money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sun, Jan 31, 2010, 21:00
General question for my teammates. Is it imperative that I have my roster set full of players that have great sched's after the break? or, is it not that big of a deal?
 
72money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sun, Jan 31, 2010, 22:42
Barnes to Collison tonight. Relief!
 
73KI on new Apple
      ID: 4511172713
      Sun, Jan 31, 2010, 23:01
Nice move m4l... thought about tyreke to collison tonight... But
settling on Dalembert or Rip Hamilton to Collison tomorrow...
Woke up this morning with two Detroit Pistons on my team... How
did that happen??
 
74money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Sun, Jan 31, 2010, 23:11
2 Pistons at on the same roster? That's the ultimate differential. LOL

I'm trying to figure out what to do with Dalembert. He's been solid and has a 4-game week coming up. I'll probably hold him until the break.
 
76Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Mon, Feb 01, 2010, 17:27
Okay, diving in with both feet first and the blindfold on.

Tyreke to Collison. Money, money, money; hope this works...
 
77ki @ work
      ID: 2836246
      Mon, Feb 01, 2010, 17:32
keep going back and forth myself on weather to go A. Dalembert to Collison .... or
B. Rip to Collison?
 
78ki @ work
      ID: 2836246
      Mon, Feb 01, 2010, 17:37
sorry.... missed the injury note...
C. it is!!!!! Tyreke to Collison.
 
79ki @ work
      ID: 2836246
      Mon, Feb 01, 2010, 17:41
Problem is the buyin probably all takes place tonight and Wednesday.... then he's 30% owned and the $350K we make starts bleeding away.... At 500K he can be held forever because he does not cost anything providing he produce around 25?TSNP/game. But Im not sure I think he is gonna be a huge money maker..
 
81ki @ work
      ID: 2836246
      Tue, Feb 02, 2010, 10:12
Is this Josh Smith day??
Maybe Lamar Odom to Smoove for me...
I think
 
82ki @ work
      ID: 2836246
      Tue, Feb 02, 2010, 13:36
.... or we try
B. Corey Maggette to Josh Smoove!
 
83Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Tue, Feb 02, 2010, 14:17
Or we hope Maggette plays since we are tradeless ;)
 
84money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Tue, Feb 02, 2010, 20:37
I have no clue who to get from Zach tonight (after refresh). Duncan, Noah, Kidd, Nowitzki.
 
85Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Tue, Feb 02, 2010, 22:02
MFL,

I'm holding Zach. Lemme splain...

Its always a sucker move to trade a guy in the 1 in 5 when he's got a great sched afterward. That's essentially what confront's Zach. He's got a two game gap followed by a b2b, hence 2 in 4 = keepable. Then the dreaded 1 in 5, after which, EVERYONE will want him.

Yes, he'll lose 200 to 300K over the 3 in 9 but he'll make it all back after the break. It'll cost you two trades to get a two game advantage of a comparable player, meanwhile your lesser players continue to stain your roster.

Nothing wrong with trading Zach if you're going into a long hold with whoever you get and then get Zach back from someone who's sched is running out.

Food for thought...
 
86Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Tue, Feb 02, 2010, 22:34
Holding Zach as well. I have bigger fish to fry.
 
87money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Tue, Feb 02, 2010, 22:50
When you put it that way, it makes total sense. Thanks again. In that case, I really don't have anyone I have to trade, even though the four I mentioned might make some good coin.
 
88reebbertxx
      Dude
      ID: 561124720
      Tue, Feb 02, 2010, 23:15
***Intruder***

M4L, you need to decide if any of those 4 you mentioned are guys you want on your team after the break. I'd rule out Duncan as I think most managers have with good reason.Dirk,Kidd, and Noah have great scheds coming up and if you decide you do want them then the sooner the better. There are a couple ways to get Zach back after the break.

If you don't feel any of those 4 are essential then simply hold Zach and bank the trade like Dave and Phatty said.

 
89money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Tue, Feb 02, 2010, 23:52
Another Q for anyone:
Is it more efficient to load up on players that have at least 2 good weeks out of the break? Or, just make sure they all have a good 1st week?

* Wade & Rondo have 5 the first week, 3 the next
* Delfino & Collison have two 4-game weeks
* Zach has 5 the first week, 4 the next
* B Lopez has 5 the first week, 2 the next
* J Smith has two 4-game weeks
* Pau & Dalembert have to go before the break.
* Dwight has 5-in-7 before the break, then has to go.
 
90Phatsow
      Sustainer
      ID: 2210292621
      Wed, Feb 03, 2010, 00:02
Hmmmm, guess this is best on a case-by-case...

Wade's gonna lose some coin starting Friday, but he's got a nice sched over the break, afterward he'll probably be gone.

Rondo's got a couple hic-cups in an otherwise great sched.

Delfino and Collison's schedules are artificially better because of their cost.

Zach we've already splained...

Fu!@#$% EVERYONE should own Brook!

Nuthin' wrong with Smoove, just haven't worked him in myself yet. Probably gonna be an injury replacement.

Agreed on Pau and Sammy. The bell tolls soon.

Superman is gonna be a popular pick-up. I'm probably gonna get him Friday from Wade barring injury (that won't happen fer sher!!!). Then he'll hafta go after the 5 in 7 or early in the next week.

Don't overlook Deron Williams next Tues. Might be the #1 pricegainer that day.

GL
 
91reebbertxx
      Dude
      ID: 561124720
      Wed, Feb 03, 2010, 00:16
My last intrusion.

Forget what G says,sorry bud, weeks mean nothing. Find good transitions from the players you have to the players you want. It is inconsequential what day of the week that happens especially this time of year.

Wade is an easy hold for me just because I already have Dwight. Otherwise I would triangle in and out of him.

Rondo is on my team forever but I am biased because he is by far my favorite player.

Like Phat said Delfino and Collison are such great values that until the end of Febuary you should forget about them.

Brook to Durant,Lee, or Westbrook is pretty perfect.

Smoove and JJ are nice pick ups if an injury occurs but I'm not forcing them in.

Pau will start losing on 2/9 and continually bleed out.

Dalembert should have went 2 days ago but if you got stuck like me I see no reason to move him now. He most likely becomes one of Bogut or Marc Gasol when the time is right.

Dwight to James is too perfect on 2/18 to pass up. Lock that one in if you don't have James.

Deron will be a must after the break.

 
92money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Wed, Feb 03, 2010, 00:47
I feel like I'm back in college and I have professors helping me left and right. Thanks again.
 
93Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Feb 03, 2010, 09:21
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94money4later
      ID: 2111213116
      Wed, Feb 03, 2010, 15:37
D Lee and Kidd/Nowitzki are so tempting right now, but I know in 2 days I'll regret it. Gonna exercise some patience for once...

Also, 2/10 a decent out for Wade > Nash?
Barring injury, Pau > Deron on 2/9