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| Posted by: Species
- [10949615] Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 16:49
Greetings all.
The G20 hoops season needs to get underway. I forgot that Ref was out and I was in as Commish, so I need to get my ass moving.
First order of business: ROLL CALL We already have one confirmed departure this year in Slackjawed Yokel. If all managers would please be so kind as to confirm your participation in this season, I would appreciate it.
More to come soon.
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| | | 1 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 17:33
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In
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| | | 2 | Mike D
ID: 348502819
Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 18:05
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In and looking to deal one of my 15 keepers.
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| | | 3 | Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 18:35
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in.
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| | | 4 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 18:58
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I'm in, but I my dyslexic evil twin, rfs, is out, isn't he?
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| | | 5 | Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 19:06
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keeping 6 again? I can only see 5 keepers on my squad, and two are stretches...
Matt Bonner, SA PF, C
*Kevin Martin, Hou SG
Jermaine Taylor, Hou SG
Richard Jefferson, SA SF
*Anderson Varejao, Cle PF, C
*Luis Scola, Hou PF, C
*J.J. Hickson, Cle PF
Ronald Murray, FA SG
Dahntay Jones, Ind SG, SF
Tyler Hansbrough, Ind PF
*Jermaine O'Neal, Bos C
Jarvis Hayes, FA SF
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| | | 6 | coldwater coyotes
SuperDude
ID: 229272412
Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 19:23
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In
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| | | 7 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 19:48
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In
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| | | 8 | Great One
ID: 367493122
Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 20:07
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I am back and will be shopping for leftovers.
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| | | 9 | Peter N.
ID: 3792459
Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 21:58
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I'm in and looking forward to seeing if I can replicate my collapse that occured in baseball. Another 1st to 2nd to worst would be like kick to the nuts. I will have plenty of guys available for picks. King James is also available.
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| | | 10 | Peter N.
ID: 3792459
Wed, Oct 06, 2010, 22:13
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As it stands now,
1. Devin Harris
2. Stephen Curry
3. Lebron James
4. Zach Randolph
5. Chris Kaman
The 6th spot will be decided between Odom, Artest, Garnett and Allen. If I had to choose today, it'd be Odom. Send me some offers if you are interested!
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| | | 11 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Thu, Oct 07, 2010, 13:16
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Probably this for now:
Anthony Randolph
Paul Millsap
David Lee
Yao Ming
J.R. Smith
Ramon Sessions
And John Wall...
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| | | 12 | youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Thu, Oct 07, 2010, 18:43
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to make it short: In.
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| | | 13 | Pacers Rule
ID: 57953815
Fri, Oct 08, 2010, 16:54
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In
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| | | 14 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Fri, Oct 08, 2010, 23:49
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IN:
Species
Dave R
PD
RSF
coldwater coyotes
Mike D
Guru
Great One
Peter N
youngroman
Pacers Rule
Tosh
Out:
slackjawed yokel
Still to declare their intentions:
slizz
Frick
bmd
rfs (will text him)
KnicksFan
barilko6
Pistol Pete
I'll send a bulk email to get people to check in.
Will have more info as soon as I can about keeper dates and draft dates.
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| | | 15 | Pistol Pete
ID: 5995059
Sat, Oct 09, 2010, 10:28
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In
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| | | 16 | Frick
ID: 42825248
Sun, Oct 10, 2010, 00:12
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I replied to the e-mail, but I'm in as well.
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| | | 17 | youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Sun, Oct 10, 2010, 16:40
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just to let you know: I am out of town until Thursday evening. don't know how much internet access I will have. per ESPN the keeper deadline is next Monday, so I should be safe.
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| | | 18 | coldwater coyotes
ID: 429858
Mon, Oct 11, 2010, 17:11
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Available:
Lou Williams
Trevor Ariza
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| | | 19 | barilko6
ID: 14910127
Tue, Oct 12, 2010, 08:10
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Guys...had a blast while in this league, but my basketball knowledge just isn't high enough to field a competitive team each year, so I am going to bow out.
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| | | 20 | Great One
ID: 159161315
Wed, Oct 13, 2010, 16:16
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Season starts in less than 2 weeks....
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| | | 21 | Species
ID: 579301322
Wed, Oct 13, 2010, 23:36
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IN:
Species
Dave R
PD
RSF
coldwater coyotes
Mike D
Guru
Great One
Peter N
youngroman
Pacers Rule
Tosh
Frick
Pistol Pete
Out:
slackjawed yokel
barilko6
Still to declare their intentions:
slizz
bmd
rfs (will text him)
KnicksFan
Have texted rfs.
We need to find 2 owners if we are to keep this thing going. I'd find it hard to imagine bmd, slizz and KF not returning, but will email them. Everyone ask your fellow RIHC league mates if they are interested.
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| | | 22 | KnicksFan
ID: 41138112
Thu, Oct 14, 2010, 00:08
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In...sorry for the delay, I was on vacation.
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| | | 23 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Thu, Oct 14, 2010, 06:39
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Looks like there are some vacancies still to fill. I have volunteered to step aside and let Ref have his old team back. He seems on he fence, maybe more off than on. I'd take one of the abandoned teams.
Would prefer to get first choice of available teams as a returning manager, if Ref comes back
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| | | 24 | Great One
ID: 159161315
Thu, Oct 14, 2010, 08:45
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It would be great if we could convince Ref to come back. I think he would enjoy playing without the extra commish duty pressure.
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| | | 25 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Oct 14, 2010, 09:59
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I'm actually considering it. The catch is that I'm on vacation for most of next week and am unsure about access at this point.
What's really odd is that since I created the site, apparently I can't be removed and have no idea of being able to change teams even if I wanted. Luckily we were able to co-own the team to get Dave in last season.
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| | | 26 | Frick
ID: 42825248
Thu, Oct 14, 2010, 10:56
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Come back Ref, at least try a year where you are just playing with no commish duties.
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| | | 27 | Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Thu, Oct 14, 2010, 10:58
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I was thinking the same thing, Frick.
ref, without commish duties you might actually enjoy yourself playing!
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| | | 28 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Thu, Oct 14, 2010, 11:19
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I've got an email out to a member of my local fantasy baseball team. He was expressing serious interest in joining a keeper basketball league of this style.
At least during baseball season, he thinks "trade" day and night.
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| | | 29 | slizz
ID: 159301418
Thu, Oct 14, 2010, 19:30
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I'm still debating it. I feel like I continue to run as fast as I can into a brick wall and get nowhere.
This team is no better than where it was when I inherited it. I feel like I am just wasting everyone's time by continually finishing in last place. Its just not fun or enjoyable running a crap team year in and year out... I've only done one thing right in my 3 years at the helm and that was drafting Tyreke Evans...which was the obvious pick. lol.
I'll let you know in a couple days to where I stand.
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| | | 30 | Mike D
ID: 89121420
Thu, Oct 14, 2010, 21:12
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Well......if this league goes on.....I need to package some players.
Planning to Keep:
Chauncey Billups
Darren Collison
Marc Gasol
Want to keep and can't squeeze all in:
Mo Williams
Raymond Felton
Marcus Thornton
Rashard Lewis
Vince Carter
Brendan Haywood
Like to keep, no way I can:
Chase Budinger
Bill Walker
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| | | 31 | Mike D
ID: 89121420
Thu, Oct 14, 2010, 21:12
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So in essence I can do like a 4 for 1 here....what a freakin' steal......love to get a BIG in a deal.
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| | | 32 | jseth333
Dude
ID: 24100310
Thu, Oct 14, 2010, 22:00
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Would be interested in joining if you find yourselves needing managers.
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| | | 33 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Thu, Oct 14, 2010, 23:04
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We'll get this thing rolling here shortly. we only have to draft 6 guys. We just need the managers now.
Everyone can pre-set their keepers at the website now.
The friend I mentioned in post 28 is interested, and I'm pretty certain will join if invited. I give him a thumbs up.
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| | | 34 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Thu, Oct 14, 2010, 23:10
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slizz [29] - Just keep hanging in there. My world took a turn for the worse when I decided to re-build my team around Oden a couple years ago. That's certainly not working out.
Then last year in round 1, I wavered hard back and forth between Johnny Flynn and Stephen Curry. Unfortunately, I went with Flynn. But I'm planning on taking Wall this season, so I'm hoping I can turn it around.
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| | | 35 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Thu, Oct 14, 2010, 23:40
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rfs is out too
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| | | 36 | slizz
ID: 159301418
Thu, Oct 14, 2010, 23:56
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I'm going to give it one more goaround...but I need to make a move
Keepers
Tyreke Evans, G, SAC
Tony Parker, G, SAS
Luol Deng, SF, CHI
So...can we just keep 3 instead :)?
I'm seriously looking at Wilson Chandler & Thaddeus Young as keepers b/c the rest of my guys STINK!
So I definitely need to do some 2 for 1's. All offers will be considered.
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| | | 37 | Peter N.
ID: 38951423
Fri, Oct 15, 2010, 00:05
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RE 34: Thanks for taking Flynn Tosh! ;-)
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| | | 38 | Great One
ID: 2751238
Fri, Oct 15, 2010, 10:03
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Still to declare their intentions:
slizz -- RETURNING
bmd -- ??? I may have missed it
rfs -- OUT -- I believe i read somewhere he wasn't coming back
KnicksFan -- RETURNING
Candidates
Ref w/ Dave taking over the above open team
Tosh's friend
jseth333
Lets get this straightened out today. If its only the one team, its easy. Ref goes back to his old team and Dave takes over RFS and we are done. If there is a second team - we've got the other 2 candidates.
Everyone start posting your leftovers if you want to cash some of them in -- folks like Slizz and myself only have 3 keepers right now and are looking to buy. Mike D is the whole market right now. You don't want him to monopolize things, do you?! :)
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| | | 39 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Fri, Oct 15, 2010, 10:25
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Slackjawed and Barilko are out as well so with RFS there are 3 open teams at least
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| | | 40 | Great One
ID: 2751238
Fri, Oct 15, 2010, 10:30
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Forgot that part. Ok, as long as BMD is back, we have 3 and 3 then... any other candidates should post here by the end of the day. Maybe we make a seperately titled thread so the general public is aware.
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| | | 41 | Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Fri, Oct 15, 2010, 10:45
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Anyone from the Chamber that we can pull in, GO?
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| | | 42 | Great One
ID: 2751238
Fri, Oct 15, 2010, 11:06
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CJ told me he had some interest, he has a great hoops resume.
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| | | 43 | youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Fri, Oct 15, 2010, 11:19
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for those of you with too few keepers.
Carlos Delfino
Jarrett Jack
Kelenna Azubuike
Kenyon Martin
Shawn Marion
can be had. either for a draft pick upgrade or in a package for 1 better keeper. all of these players have their question marks and may contribute more or less compared to last year. tough to figure it out at this stage of the season.
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| | | 44 | CJ
Leader
ID: 499271021
Fri, Oct 15, 2010, 11:41
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I would greatly appreciate to be a part of this
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| | | 45 | Mike D
ID: 5937410
Fri, Oct 15, 2010, 11:51
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My email is attached for ease of trading
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| | | 46 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Fri, Oct 15, 2010, 11:59
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Can we go ahead and run the draft lottery asap? That is typically a Guru specialty.
My friend has confirmed commitment if invited.
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| | | 47 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Oct 15, 2010, 16:37
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Dave R just informed me that the season starts on 10/26. If this league is going to happen it needs to get going quickly. I am out of pocket from 19-24 most likely. Might have limited access via phone. Today is the 15th. What still needs to be done...
1. Fill teams and run lottery
2. Announce Keeper date
3. Announce draft date and run draft
4. Finish and get waivers started before first game
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| | | 48 | beastiemiked
ID: 10432914
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 00:21
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I'm in. Hoops is already starting. OMG.
I'm in a real pickle for trying to figure out keepers. I have 7 very legit keepers so looking to deal 1.
Kobe
Bosh
Jennings
JSmith
Jamison
Ibaka
Crawford
Probably most likely to deal Jamison, Crawford, Bosh, or Kobe. That doesn't mean Kobe or Bosh will be cheap. All are available though.
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| | | 49 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 02:22
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IN:
Species
Dave R
PD
RSF
coldwater coyotes
Mike D
Guru
Great One
Peter N
youngroman
Pacers Rule
Tosh
Frick
Pistol Pete
bmd
slizz
KnicksFan
Out:
slackjawed yokel
barilko6
rfs
We have a possible return of Ref. His history gives him first choice. If so, he would get his old team back.
Dave R, having capably stepped in for Ref last year, and graciously volunteered to give it back this year if he wants to return, is being deemed by me to have 1st choice of teams if Ref comes back. If not, he keeps his same team.
If Ref is back, that leaves 2 teams and Tosh's friend, jseth and CJ. We would need to lottery them off. This lottery would not only be for which 2 of the 3 would be invited, but in which order they would get to choose their new franchise.
If Ref is not back, then those 3 who have volunteered or been nominated have the teams, and we will lottery off the order in which these teams can choose their franchises.
Guru, or any other volunteer, please randomly run a lottery for the 3 prospective members:
jseth333
Tosh's friend
CJ
By then, we'll hear from Ref a firm yea or nay as to whether he is back and we will get this rolling.
Keeper Deadline is Tuesday October 19th at 12:00pm (noon) ET
Draft will start Wednesday October 20th at 9:00am ET
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| | | 50 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 02:24
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2009 - 2010 Standings:
1. Team Nashty 144 +2
2. coldwater coyotes 139 -1
3. youngroman's Luschen 133 -1
4. SAN FORDORS 128 -0.5
5. First Place KnicksFan 124.5 +1
6. slackjawed yokels 123.5 +2.5
7. Team Wehner 123 +0
8. Extreme Basketball 118 +1
9. Blurred Crusaders 104.5 -3
10. Naptown 'Nados 88 +0
10. Second City Saints 88 +0
12. IND Frick's DTD 86 +2
13. 99 Cent Shooters 83 -5
13. Roto Guru 83 -1
15. rockafeller skank 79.5 +1
16. Species' Injured Reserve 74 +3
17. Gang Green 57 +0
18. Team Perm Dudes 42 -1
19. RSF on the Rebound 41 +0
20. Team Slizz 31 +0
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| | | 51 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 02:24
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Traded picks:
10-11 Traded Draft Picks
11/30 - PermDude gets rockafellerskank's Round 2 + Tyler Hansbrough
11/30 - rockafellerskank gets PermDude's Round 6 + Allen Iverson
12/22 - Species gets coldwater coyotes' Round 1 + Corey Brewer
12/22 - coldwater coyotes gets Species' Round 2 + Erick Dampier
01/23 - PermDude gets PeterN's Round 1 + Jared Jeffries
01/23 - PeterN gets PermDude's Round 6 + Lamar Odom
02/13 - Sanfordors gets GreatOne's Round 4 + Jason Terry
02/13 - GreatOne gets Sanfordors' Round 2 + Kendrick Perkins
02/13 - PeterN gets RSF's Round 3 + Kevin Garnett
02/13 - RSF gets PeterN's Round 3 + JR Smith
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| | | 52 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 02:30
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Rosters of departing managers:
rfs:
Emeka Okafor
Derrick Rose
Beno Udrih
Grant Hill
Corey Maggette
Baron Davis
Joakim Noah
Tracy McGrady
Tayyshaun Prince
Peja Stojakovic
Allen Iverson
J.J. Redick
slackjawed yokel
Samuel Dalembert
Paul Pierce
Jose Calderon
Danilo Gallinari
Pau Gasol
Kirk Hinrich
Matt Barnes
Earl Watson
Al Harrington
Ronnie Brewer
Drew Gooden
CJ Watson
barilko6
DeJuan Blair
OJ Mayo
Mike Conley
Rasheed Wallace
Chris Andersen
Rajon Rondo
LaMarcus Aldridge
Al Thornton
Josh Howard
Leandro Barbosa
Shaquille O'neal
DeMar DeRozan
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| | | 53 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 02:32
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My possible keeps:
Arenas
Westbrook
Beasley
Brand
Bogut
Bibby
Chandler
Kirilenko
I'm open to anything. My team sucks.
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| | | 54 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 02:34
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Everyone please review post # 49
Thanks.
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| | | 55 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 03:30
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Species - please text me any details as they arise this weekend. I'm away from the computer most of the time. Hopefully you still have my number. And hopefully my friend (who I'll call 'Meatwad') has been following along.
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| | | 56 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 08:06
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I guess the first order of business is for Ref to declare his intentions. I can't pick keepers if I don't know what team I'm going to have and the other managers can't pick teams until I do.
If Ref is back I'll takes rfs's team
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| | | 57 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 09:47
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[49] I ran the random draw for the three entering managers, and sent the audit details to Species.
The priority order is:
1. Tosh's friend
2. jseth333
3. CJ
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| | | 58 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 09:48
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I don't think we have run our regular draft lottery, which determines the draft order for the first round of our draft. I'll set that up and run it this afternoon.
(Correct me if we already did that and I've forgotten.)
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| | | 59 | Meatwads
ID: 319231610
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 11:24
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Hello everyone. My name is Michael, and I believe I'm taking over one of the teams in your league this year. Some of you may know me as "Tosh's friend". Since "Tosh" has left computer land for the weekend, I'd appreciate a little help getting started. He obviously sent me a link to this thread but I accidently deleted access to the league homepage. If someone could e-mail me at michaelpatrickrichards@gmail.com with a link and any other useful information I'd really appreciate it. I read in post #57 that I won the lottery to enter the league, so please let me know how and when I can claim a team. "Tosh" gave me a quick overview of the rules, so I'm really looking for anything else relevant to getting started. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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| | | 60 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 12:14
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Welcome Michael.
I am the lame duck Commissioner and will seek to send you some info/links ASAP....but I am leaving right now and will be afk for many hours. You'll love the league and we're glad to have you aboard.
Guru - YES, we need to run the first round lottery. We have two ties that need to be settled first for 10th place and 13th place.
Thanks, all.
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| | | 61 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 12:25
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Uh...I'm not all that 'smoozie' with just handing teams around. Yeah, the league might need to kiss ass to get some players in, but if you are coming in after leaving, you are just another 'newbie'...newbie+ if you prefer. I'd just assume random team assignment for anyone coming in. Maybe its just me.
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| | | 62 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 13:04
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Actually...Ref, if he wants (and Dave R agrees) should get his squad back, but then Dave R is put in the random team draft...I mean, I'd love a team with a top young PG and a top young C.
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| | | 63 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 13:19
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I just sent species, dave r and tosh an email, but it appears that tosh and species are away for awhile. So I'm going to post the gist of the email here...
I can come back, but am not sure how I am going to draft. Might have to work with me somewhat as I'm on vacation form the 19-24th. Will have my blackberry so might be somewhat accessible at times, but it could get rough.
1. We did this exact thing in baseball when Code Cracker had a work issue and had to step aside one season and Cards took over and then he returned the following season and Cards took another team.
2. Since I set up this league, it is actually impossible to remove me from this league or this team. I will always have to at least co-own this team and get all the emails etc. same as dave r or whoever owns it.
So let me know what you want to do and if it is possible to work with me on the draft. I might even try and recruit someone to assist me with that. If someone doesn't approve of this, I'm ok with not being in the league at all.
So I am going to assume that I'm back in with my original team, unless you tell me differently. I don't have the info on keepers or draft or how we are even drafting. I haven't even looked at the team (except to see if there was a way I could remove myself from that team) and haven't even looked at fantasy basketball since the end of 08-09 season. So I have a lot of catchup time--which normally wouldn't matter if I wasn't on the road.
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| | | 64 | Meatwads
ID: 319231610
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 13:47
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I can appreciate your point of view on the claiming of teams RecycledSpinalFluid. I'm brand new to the league so I don't want to step on a veteran's shoes here. As far as I can tell, the process used to determine who gets their choice of teams was fair. I know that means less coming from the winner of the "new manager" lottery but my point of view would be the same had I finished last. I don't think any of the new managers have an advantage, seeing as though we only have three of twenty rosters to choose from. I haven't had the chance to view other rosters but I can all but promise you I'd rather have someone else's team, rather than the three available. All that being said, I'll be happy to follow whatever ruling the commish decides is appropriate. I hope this matter gets settled quickly, so I can begin tinkering with whatever roster I have and maybe get a trade or two in before the draft. Good luck everyone and thanks for letting me join your league.
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| | | 65 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 14:03
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Preparing to hold the draft lottery.
The spreadsheet with the lotto-number-lookup is here:
http://rotoguru1.com/hoop/G20-Oct10-14x4_balls.xls
Audit copies of the lottery draws will be emailed to Species and Tosh. Since they are both away at the moment, I'll go ahead and announce the the results as they are generated.
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| | | 66 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 14:05
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Pick #1: 3-6-7-12
Slizz
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| | | 67 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 14:06
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Pick #2: 2-8-9-10
Species
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| | | 68 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 14:08
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Pick #3: 1-2-3-5
Perm Dude
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| | | 69 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 14:20
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OK, so sounds like Ref is back. I guess if RSF ( or anyone )has a problem with my taking first crack at an available team, as a " returning manager ", fine.
I'll take whatever team I end up with.
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| | | 70 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 14:35
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OK I am of to kids sports for the next few hrs but will be back tonight and will have tomorrow to stud things. Species directed me to the thread for the keeper info which I had missed:
Keeper Deadline is Tuesday October 19th at 12:00pm (noon) ET. Draft will start Wednesday October 20th at 9:00am ET
I will try to set thing sup the best I can, but really want to find someone who I can share my general team makeup and work with me on the draft so it doesn't slow the thing down.
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| | | 71 | Mike D
ID: 2293167
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 14:57
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I think in this case Ref HAS to take his old team back because of the commish piece. A unique situation. He's locked into it.
Normally I'd say Ref should not get his old team back unless Dave R wanted to give it up. And then throw Dave in the new manager mix. But Dave could keep his team since for a season (or more) it was his.
When I joined, I took rfs's team. When he returned a year or two later, he took someone else's team. I don't think I was asked by rfs or anyone else to "give" my team up. I don't really think I would have wanted to, but I guess that depends how good the open teams were.
Let meathead in this thing so he can deal.......especially with me. Lol. (post 45!)
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| | | 72 | slizz
ID: 159301418
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 15:19
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well one stroke of luck.
I'm going to take offers for the #1 overall pick (John Wall).
I know everyone is interested, but I need some keepers in return...
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| | | 73 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 15:28
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Mike, I've already volunteered to give Ref back his team. I guess the next order of business is who gets the abandoned teams and how are the divided up.
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| | | 74 | beastiemiked
ID: 10432914
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 16:38
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I get PeterN 2nd round pick for my 6th round pick. Via post 105 in this thread http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/read.pl?board=hoop&thread=13293&last=1286394715
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| | | 75 | Mike D
ID: 2293167
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 17:20
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I know Dave but I needed to get that off my chest. I feel better now.
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| | | 76 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 18:17
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I think in this case Ref HAS to take his old team back because of the commish piece. A unique situation. He's locked into it.
That's a big part of it, along with understanding the unique situation Ref was in last year. With Dave R's willingness to step aside, I am fine with it.
I appreciate RSF's perspective and agree that there is a certain pinch of returning manager favoritism involved. It's simply a matter of loyalty in my eyes and the rationale behind my decision. These are teams being given up so it's not as if Dave's going to be contending this year because of a beneficial ruling by me. RSF - if you feel that strongly about it, please appeal to the masses and request a vote.
Meatwads needs to choose between slackjawed yokel's and barilko6's teams in post 52. Once he's chosen, we can get their ESPN logins and get them their teams.
Anyone got jseth's email?
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| | | 77 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 18:32
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Traded picks:
10-11 Traded Draft Picks
11/30 - PermDude gets rockafellerskank's Round 2 + Tyler Hansbrough
11/30 - rockafellerskank gets PermDude's Round 6 + Allen Iverson
12/22 - Species gets coldwater coyotes' Round 1 + Corey Brewer
12/22 - coldwater coyotes gets Species' Round 2 + Erick Dampier
01/23 - PermDude gets PeterN's Round 1 + Jared Jeffries
01/23 - PeterN gets PermDude's Round 6 + Lamar Odom
02/13 - Sanfordors gets GreatOne's Round 4 + Jason Terry
02/13 - GreatOne gets Sanfordors' Round 2 + Kendrick Perkins
02/13 - PeterN gets RSF's Round 3 + Kevin Garnett
02/13 - RSF gets PeterN's Round 3 + JR Smith
03/15 - bmd gets PeterN's Round 2
03/15 - PeterN gets bmd's Round 6
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| | | 78 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 18:36
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11/30 - rockafellerskank gets PermDude's Round 6 + Allen Iverson
01/23 - PeterN gets PermDude's Round 6 + Lamar Odom
PD traded his 6th twice. As is customary, due to PD's error he is "forced" to give up his next lowest pick, his 5th, to Pete.
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| | | 79 | Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 19:28
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Damn--that was pretty sloppy of me. No biggie, though. It still was a good trade.
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| | | 80 | Mike D
ID: 2293167
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 19:50
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| Pick | Round 1 | Round 2 | Round 3 | Round 4 | Round 5 | Round 6 | | 1 | slizz | slizz | slizz | slizz | slizz | slizz | | 2 | Species | RSF | Peter N. | RSF | RSF | RSF | | 3 | PermDude | PermDude | PermDude | PermDude | Peter N. | Dave R | | 4 | RSF | Tosh | Tosh | Tosh | Tosh | Tosh | | 5 | Tosh | coldwater | Species | Species | Species | Species | | 6 | Dave R | PermDude | Dave R | Dave R | Dave R | Dave R | | 7 | Guru | Guru | Guru | Guru | Guru | Guru | | 8 | barilko6 | barilko6 | barilko6 | barilko6 | barilko6 | barilko6 | | 9 | Frick | Frick | Frick | Frick | Frick | Frick | | 10 | GreatOne | GreatOne | GreatOne | Ref | GreatOne | GreatOne | | 11 | PacersRule | PacersRule | PacersRule | PacersRule | PacersRule | PacersRule | | 12 | PistolPete | PistolPete | PistolPete | PistolPete | PistolPete | PistolPete | | 13 | Mike D | Mike D | Mike D | Mike D | Mike D | Mike D | | 14 | bmd | bmd | bmd | bmd | bmd | Peter N. | | 15 | yokel | yokel | yokel | yokel | yokel | yokel | | 16 | Knicksfan | Knicksfan | Knicksfan | Knicksfan | Knicksfan | Knicksfan | | 17 | Ref | Great One | Ref | Ref | Ref | Ref | | 18 | youngroman | youngroman | youngroman | youngroman | youngroman | youngroman | | 19 | Species | coldwater | coldwater | coldwater | coldwater | coldwater | | 20 | PermDude | bmd | RSF | Peter N. | Peter N. | Peter N. | | | | | | | |
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| | | 81 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 20:01
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RE: 51 traded pics
02/13 - Sanfordors gets GreatOne's Round 4 + Jason Terry
02/13 - GreatOne gets Sanfordors' Round 2 + Kendrick Perkins
So I have Terry on my roster but not Perkins. So what was the rest of these deals?
Eyeballing it--seems like these are my candidates for keepers:
C Andray Blatche, Was PF, C
G Andre Miller, Por PG
G Brandon Roy*, Por SG, SF
F Danny Granger*, Ind SF
F Dirk Nowitzki, Dal PF
UTIL Hedo Turkoglu, Pho SF
UTIL Jason Terry, Dal SG
Can only keep 6 so one has to go.
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| | | 82 | Meatwads
ID: 29931619
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 20:03
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In response to post 76...The Meatwads have decided to claim the team formally owned by barilko6.
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| | | 83 | Meatwads
ID: 29931619
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 20:22
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Since I've claimed barilko6's team here are my candidates for keepers at the moment...
LaMarcus Aldridge
DeJuan Blair
OJ Mayo
Leandro Barbosa
Rajon Rondo
Mike Conley
Each and every one of my player are available for trade. Rondo, Aldridge and Mayo are
the cornerstones of my questionable roster, therefore will cost the most to aquire. As Tosh previosly stated, I'm thinking trade "day and night" so anyone interested in one of my players don't hesitate to contact me.
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| | | 84 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 21:46
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My keepers:
Al Jefferson
Carlos Boozer
Andre Iguodala
Jameer Nelson
Jeff Green
Ben Gordon
None of my non-keepers have any trade value.
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| | | 85 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 23:13
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Possible Keepers, willing to deal anyone:
Reddick
Okafor
Rose
Udrih
Baron
Noah
Prince
Maggette
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| | | 86 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Sat, Oct 16, 2010, 23:14
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My keepers -
Greg Oden (C, POR)
Nene Hilario (C/PF, DEN)
Kevin Love (PF, MIN)
Mike Miller (SF/SG, MIA)
Anthony Morrow (SF/SG, NJ)
Eric Gordon (SG, LAC)
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| | | 87 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sun, Oct 17, 2010, 02:05
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jseth and Meatwads should be receiving invites to claim their teams.
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| | | 88 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sun, Oct 17, 2010, 02:11
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I need someone to please run two coin flips:
1: 7th vs. 8th pick between Meatwads and Guru
Meatwads = heads
Guru = tails
2: 10th vs. 11th pick between PacersRule and GreatOne
PacersRule = heads
Greatone = tails
Thanks.
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| | | 89 | Mike D
ID: 2293167
Sun, Oct 17, 2010, 07:56
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1: 7th vs. 8th pick between Meatwads and Guru
heads = Meatwads
2: 10th vs. 11th pick between PacersRule and GreatOne
heads = PacersRule
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| | | 90 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Oct 17, 2010, 10:08
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RE: 81
Looks like Villanueva is also keeper-worthy
C Andray Blatche, Was PF, C
G Andre Miller, Por PG
G Brandon Roy*, Por SG, SF
F Danny Granger*, Ind SF
F Dirk Nowitzki, Dal PF
UTIL Hedo Turkoglu, Pho SF
UTIL Jason Terry, Dal SG
UTIL Charlie Villanueva, Det PF, SF
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| | | 91 | jseth333
Dude
ID: 24100310
Sun, Oct 17, 2010, 11:25
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Vampireweekend initial keeper thoughts:
Samuel Dalemebert
Paul Pierce
Jose Calderon
Pau Gasol
Danilo Gallinari
Al Harrington
Yikes...
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| | | 92 | coldwater coyotes
ID: 429858
Sun, Oct 17, 2010, 19:25
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KEEPERS:
Amare Stoudemire, PF, NY
Monta Ellis, SG, GS
Steve Nash, PG, Pho
Gerald Wallace, SF, Cha
Marcus Camby, C, Por
Robin Lopez, C, Pho
Dropped:
Lou Williams
Trevor Ariza
Erick Dampier
DeAndre Jordan
Chris Duhon
Ty Lawson
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| | | 93 | Pistol Pete
ID: 5995059
Sun, Oct 17, 2010, 21:32
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Blurred Crusaders prelim keepers-
Chris Paul, Nor PG
Al Horford, Atl C, PF
Aaron Brooks, Hou PG
Troy Murphy*, NJ PF, C
Rodney Stuckey, Det PG, SG
Terrence Williams, NJ SF, SG
Blurred bubble-
Richard Hamilton, Det SG, SF
Channing Frye, Pho PF, C
Yi Jianlian, Was PF, SF
Blurred fodder-
Anthony Parker, Cle SG
Wayne Ellington, Min SG
Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, Mil SF, PF
Rip, Frye and Yi are gonna contribute stats for someone this season. If you dont like one of your keepers, throw me a mid-rounder.
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| | | 94 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Sun, Oct 17, 2010, 21:44
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Vampireweekend initial keeper thoughts:
Samuel Dalemebert
Paul Pierce
Jose Calderon
Pau Gasol
Danilo Gallinari
Al Harrington
Yikes...
Dude.....not bad for 20 deep.....at least you have 6 starters.....sort of ;)
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| | | 95 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Sun, Oct 17, 2010, 22:41
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So are we rolling with kafenatid again this year ... or going back to the message boards?
We're going to need a pretty short clock to get in 6 rounds.
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| | | 96 | Meatwads
ID: 39581722
Sun, Oct 17, 2010, 23:58
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Any chance I can get the co-owner taken off my team? I also wanted to change my team name and my picture, etc. Can the commish give me access needed to do these things?
Still looking to make a last minute deal before the keeper deadline. I'm looking for as many as 2 keepers I like better than Blair or Barbosa and I'm willing to trade draft picks for them.
I'll be trying hard to get a deal done before the deadline, so any managers that want to make something happen e-mail me so we can try and work something out.
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| | | 97 | Mike D
ID: 2293167
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 00:35
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You mean besides the e-mail I sent yesterday? ;)
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| | | 98 | Meatwads
ID: 39581722
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 01:11
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Sorry about not responding to that. The offer you made wasn't bad but you weren't asking for draft picks. If we change the player you want into upgraded picks then we can probably make something work.
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| | | 99 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 01:13
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Meatwads - I removed the other owner. You are now the man.
As to the permissions, there is no Commish control over that. On my team, there is a 'team setting' link under my team picture, that allows me to make changes.
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| | | 100 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 07:36
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Did Perm Dude give up a 3rd rounder or something too, in that trade?
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| | | 101 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 08:07
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It was supposed to be something like that.
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| | | 102 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 10:29
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For anyone who has a stud but needs depth. I could possible make a 2 for 1 or possibly even a 3 for 1 deal. I honestly have no idea who will be my 5th and 6th keeper at this point. Have two extra keepers who will be snagged in the first if I drop them. Getting some inquiries for draft picks, but if you could gain an extra keeper or two w/o having to give up a pick, that could help you. I would obviously like to have a better keeper that fills a need better--otherwise I'll settle for a draft pick if it's high enough.
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| | | 103 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 10:44
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CJ has agreed to assist me during the draft. I am going to send him a co-owner invite for the duration of the draft for strategy purposes.
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| | | 104 | Great One
ID: 2751238
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 10:50
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Is there a keeper thread set up? am I just missing it? think we should get a cleaned up keeper only one if not.
Thanks CJ -- this should help you get familiar with league setup and rules and I am sure the league appreciates it and will remember that next time a spot opens.
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| | | 105 | KnicksFan
ID: 48955189
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 11:11
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Keepers:
Dwight Howard (C, ORL)
Joe Johnson (GF, ATL)
John Salmons (GF, MIL)
Boris Diaw (F, CHA)
David West (F, NO)
Tyrus Thomas (F, CHA)
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| | | 106 | Meatwads
ID: 39581722
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 11:37
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E-MAIL me at michaelpatrickrichards@gmail.com if you want to discuss trades before the keeper deadline. If you have g-mail we can chat and make the negotiation process quicker.
Ideally I'm trying to keep Rondo, Mayo and Aldridge. The other players are available but I'm more than willing to discuss trading draft picks to any team that has more than 6 potential keepers. I'm looking for 2 or 3 keepers so if I can't get that done in one deal I need multiple trade partners. I'll be on g-mail until the keeper deadline...
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| | | 107 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 13:00
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Anyone want Yao Ming? Perfect player for this league...if he'd just stay healthy!!! I'm leaning toward nuking my roster again. Lil' Nate Robinson is looking nice so far in preseason, but is one of those 'you know what you are gonna get' for upside though. So much young potential on my squad, just need to mine the right one...and not pass on Stephen Curry for Ramon Sessions... :(
Gorram bouncing ping pong balls!
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| | | 108 | beastiemiked
ID: 10432914
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 13:49
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Jamal Crawford can be had for cheap. Huge in 3's and FT%. Only negative is he doesn't get blocks but he's a SG.
Decided I needed to keep the rest of my roster intact.
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| | | 109 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 14:32
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Holy smokes...did we really just have a trade veto?
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| | | 110 | Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 14:33
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The pending trade between Sanforders & Perm Dudes was nuked by the commish at the suggestion of both teams. There was a miscommunication in draft picks being involved, so we thought we'd look at this fresh.
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| | | 111 | Great One
ID: 2751238
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 14:33
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| Pick | Round 1 | Round 2 | Round 3 | Round 4 | Round 5 | Round 6 | | 1 | slizz | slizz | slizz | slizz | slizz | slizz | | 2 | Species | RSF | Peter N. | RSF | RSF | RSF | | 3 | PermDude | PermDude | PermDude | PermDude | Peter N. | Dave R | | 4 | RSF | Tosh | Tosh | Tosh | Tosh | Tosh | | 5 | Tosh | coldwater | Species | Species | Species | Species | | 6 | Dave R | PermDude | Dave R | Dave R | Dave R | Dave R | | 7 | Meatwads | Meatwads | Meatwads | Meatwads | Meatwads | Meatwads | | 8 | Guru | Guru | Guru | Guru | Guru | Guru | | 9 | Frick | Frick | Frick | Frick | Frick | Frick | | 10 | PacersRule | PacersRule | PacersRule | PacersRule | PacersRule | PacersRule | | 11 | Greatone | Greatone | Greatone | Ref | Greatone | Greatone | | 12 | PistolPete | PistolPete | PistolPete | PistolPete | PistolPete | PistolPete | | 13 | Mike D | Mike D | Mike D | Mike D | Mike D | Mike D | | 14 | bmd | bmd | bmd | bmd | bmd | Peter N. | | 15 | yokel | yokel | yokel | yokel | yokel | yokel | | 16 | Knicksfan | Knicksfan | Knicksfan | Knicksfan | Knicksfan | Knicksfan | | 17 | Ref | Great One | Ref | Ref | Ref | Ref | | 18 | youngroman | youngroman | youngroman | youngroman | youngroman | youngroman | | 19 | Species | coldwater | coldwater | coldwater | coldwater | coldwater | | 20 | PermDude | bmd | RSF | Peter N. | Peter N. | Peter N. | | | | | | | |
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| | | 112 | Species
ID: 19471814
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 15:47
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Lol....RSF is like a "G20 Citizens Watch Group" to oversee the commissioner!
Have fixed my grid so it says vampireweekend instead of yokel, as well as widening the cell so it says "PermDude" instead of "PermDud".....lol no offense, PD ;)
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| | | 113 | Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 15:58
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Thanks to the Little Blue Pill, I'm no longer PermDud, thank you very much...
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| | | 114 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 544201619
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 15:59
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Ha! Took my first time off of the year...a whole week of nothing to do but think about hoops. And since the G20 is the only league that matters...
I've got my eye on you buddy!
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| | | 115 | Mike D
ID: 2293167
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 16:06
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No wonder you didn't respond to my e-mail---you ain't workin'!
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| | | 116 | Mike D
ID: 2293167
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 16:58
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Trade
Mike D trades Vince Carter and pick 2.13
to
slizz for pick 2.01
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| | | 118 | Great One
ID: 367493122
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 20:18
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I've spoken with a few of you folks and have some possibilities, but I've got pick 3.11 for sale (for your worst pick) for a solid leftover player. I need a bigger PF type cause I got hit with injuries late last year and am G heavy. So if email me a list of leftovers that you would do for 3.11 if you got anyone decent you can't keep.
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| | | 119 | slizz
ID: 30921721
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 21:12
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Confirmed.
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| | | 120 | slizz
ID: 30921721
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 21:16
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So my keepers are as follows:
Locks
Tyreke Evans, G, SAC
Tony Parker, G, SAS
Luol Deng, F, CHI
Vince Carter, G/F, ORL
Pending/Questionable
Jason Thompson, F/C, SAC
Thaddeus Young, F, PHI
Wilson Chandler, F, NYK
Now the #1 Pick and Tyreke are for sale...but as I was telling BMD and Ref, I would like some tier 3/4 keepers in return rather than guys to fill depth like VC. John Wall and Tyreke are franchise cornerstones so if you are going to move for those two, I would want two guys along the level of Luol Deng in return...solid keepers (not just excess fat), not superstars, but nevertheless solid.
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| | | 121 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 21:28
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Trade:
Villanueva and 5.17 for GOs 3.11
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| | | 122 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 21:39
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Does Jason Terry interest anyone? I know he's ranked higher than one or two of my other guys.
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| | | 123 | Meatwads
ID: 39581722
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 22:06
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TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT
Meatwads trade : picks 3.07 & 5.07
Team Nashty trades : Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett, and picks 4.20 & 5.20
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| | | 124 | Species
ID: 579301322
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 22:14
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Nice. Deals going on everywhere.
I should have one when bmd gets online again.
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| | | 125 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 22:23
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TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT
SANFORDORS trades Corey Maggette and pick 6.6 to
Perm Dude for pick 2.3
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| | | 126 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 22:50
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Actually I'd move Jason Terry or Andre Miller, but need to speak up quickly.
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| | | 127 | Peter N.
ID: 38951423
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 22:58
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Trade with Meatwads confirmed. Ron Artest is available if anyone is short a keep.
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| | | 128 | Meatwads
ID: 39581722
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 23:04
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TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT
Meatwads trade : pick 4.07
MikeD trades : Marcus Thornton & pick 4.13
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| | | 129 | Species
ID: 579301322
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 23:12
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To get things processed quickly to allow for keeper entry, I will be approving trades as they come through on the website.
If anyone has any vehement objections, post them here.
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| | | 130 | Species
ID: 579301322
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 23:17
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PS - GET THESE APPROVED ON ESPN ASAP. THESE AREN'T OFFICIAL UNTIL THEY'RE ON ESPN.
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| | | 131 | Mike D
ID: 2293167
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 23:18
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Confirmed regarding post 128.
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| | | 132 | beastiemiked
ID: 10432914
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 23:33
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Species trades his 4.05 in 2010 and his 5th rounder pick in 2011 for Jamal Crawford, bmd's 5.14 in 2010, and bmd's 6th round pick in 2011.
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| | | 133 | Species
ID: 579301322
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 23:37
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132 confirmed.
Please confirm the League Note on the ESPN page for accuracy. These are coming in fast and furious.
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| | | 134 | Perm Dude
ID: 5510572522
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 23:43
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#125 confirmed
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| | | 135 | beastiemiked
ID: 10432914
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 23:47
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You forgot to put you get 5.14.
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| | | 136 | Species
ID: 579301322
Mon, Oct 18, 2010, 23:50
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Thanks.
Don't forget to mark your keepers on ESPN
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| | | 137 | Meatwads
ID: 39581722
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 00:04
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2010-11 UPDATED KEEPERS - Mighty Meatwads
G Rajon Rondo
F LaMarcus Aldridge
G OJ Mayo
G Ray Allen
F Kevin Garnett
G Marcus Thornton
AVAILABLE FOR LAST MINUTE TRADE
(Will move any of these players for an upgraded draft pick this year or next year)
G Mike Conley
G Leandro Barbosa
F/G Josh Howard
C Shaquille O'neal
C/F DeJuan Blair
G DeMar DeRozen
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| | | 138 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 00:12
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There is a separate thread for your keepers.
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| | | 139 | Meatwads
ID: 39581722
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 00:20
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I was just updating anyone who cares of my current roster. I've seen a handful of people doing it earlier in this thread so my mistake. Do I actually need to announce my keepers on the other thread or can i just do it at ESPN? If I need to post on the other thread I need someone to tell me how to get there.
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| | | 140 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 00:25
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Looks good here...now i just need to get off my ass and make some trades.
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| | | 141 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 03:39
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If anyone wants a PG, I'm not keeping Augustin. Would just need a small pick upgrade - such as a third for a fourth or a 4th for a sixth. Not an uberstud by any means but Livingston is injured again.
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| | | 142 | coldwater coyotes
ID: 429858
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 06:05
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ALERT
Either Robin Lopez or Trevor Ariza are available for a late first round or early second round pick
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| | | 143 | youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 11:08
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I just want to let you know that I will be out of town for the next 48 hours. I should have internet access during my working hours (3am - 11am ET). depending on where we are in the draft I may need to leave long queues. we will see tomorrow.
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| | | 144 | Meatwads
ID: 48961913
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 14:06
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Can someone help with something? I'm hearing that the trade deadline has already passed even though keepers aren't due for 3 hours. I tried sending a trade offer on ESPN a couple minutes ago and it went through. Can someone confirm or deny that that the deadline to deal is gone? If it is over, where do I find the information that says this. Help!!
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| | | 145 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 14:18
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Posting this for Species, from an email:
I can't post from work and don't want to type all of this in my phone. If someone could post the text below into a post in our discussion thread, I'd appreciate it.
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I received a request prior to the Noon deadline wondering if we could extend the deadling to 5:00pm, as it states on the ESPN site. That manager was confused by the conflicting information and is still seeking to complete a trade.
I never set the 5:00 deadline on ESPN to be honest.......and once I set the Noon deadline in this thread I tried to find a place to change the deadline on ESPN to avoid this kind of confusion but failed to find the place to change it.
I came up with the Noon deadline out of thin air.....there was no rhyme or reason to it outside of creating a sense of urgency due to my tardiness in getting this league going (and I hope everyone will accept my apologies for that).
I am indifferent towards this request and would like to hear from any of you who have an opinion. On one hand, perhaps managers cut deals late last night because they knew they only had until Noon today....so instead of holding out for one deal, they cut the best deal they could last night so they made sure to get something done.
On the other hand, the conflicting information could have confused some managers who thought they had more time.....and I can easily understand this.
That said, typically the deadlines posted in this thread take precedent. Thus, barring several opinions that say "Yeah, why not? Let 'em trade....no biggie", my initial judgment would be to say "Sorry man.....we have to have a deadline somewhere".....even though personally I have no objection......it's just that my opinion is not strong enough to consider a dictator-like edict like I did in giving Dave R first choice of teams.
Please post your thoughts ASAP.
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| | | 146 | Great One
ID: 2751238
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 14:37
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Full disclosure, I wrote back to Meatwads agreeing to a deal and sending it over to him this morning. He wrote back after noon stating he was under the impression based on the ESPN site that he had til 5 PM to accept so by the time he checked in I had to withdraw and let him know it was too late.
Because I was waiting on him I passed on a few other offers to get a legit 6th keeper so now I'm kind of screwed keeping an injured guy and he missed out on a draft pick trade he had planned. So obviously we'd both like to get the deal done still.
I emailed Tosh and Species this morning letting them know I couldn't find him but we had agreed in principle but was searching for him to confirm on the ESPN site. Got tied up at work and didn't realize the deadline passed til i saw his respone too late.
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| | | 147 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 14:39
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FYI - On Sunday, I changed the deadline at the ESPN site to 5pm today, even though I knew that our Keeper Thread said Noon.
I did it this way, because we really have no idea what happens at ESPN when that deadline hits ... do the keepers auto-process or not?
And what happens if a manager(s) have not set keepers at ESPN as requested? Do they all just disappear?
I'd prefer to just stick with the Noon deadline as stated in the Keeper thread ... and wait two more hours to see what happens at ESPN.
Which certainly means that everyone needs to select their keepers at ESPN post-haste. (There are still three teams that have not selected their keepers.)
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| | | 148 | Meatwads
ID: 48961913
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 14:41
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I have been trying to follow this league as closely as possible and I missed where it said 12:00 PM ET deadline. I've since found it, but I can clearly see how people (especially new) could be confused. I started talking a bunch of trades yesterday, but not because I thought the deadline was approaching. In my mind I was giving myself a day to make deals, and half a day to finish any deals that couldn't get finalized last night. I'm still trying to get everything figured out and the noon ET deadline was something that slipped through the cracks for me. As a new member I'd request that we get an extension to complete the trade we have on the table. I understand if this request isn't acceptable but I hope someone understands how difficult it is to join a league right before it starts and know everything, without hands on help from a veteran. I'd appreciate someone in power giving my request a thought. Thanks.
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| | | 149 | Mike D
ID: 5937410
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 15:16
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I just saw a juicy trade offer that was sent to me this morning and I had missed so it would be nice. But for years it has been noon I believe so I can understand. Must have some cutoff time.
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| | | 150 | Frick
ID: 42825248
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 15:16
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I have no problems with the trade going through. I might feel a bit different if it was two long time managers, but that isn't the case.
In the future, it doesn't hurt to post the trade in a thread to show that it was agreed to in principle prior to the deadline, by either party. Plus ESPN doesn't seem to include the draft picks in the automated e-mail so while I've seen some trades that look odd, I've assumed that there are draft picks are involved.
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| | | 151 | Great One
ID: 2751238
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 15:22
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Lets just move on, its fine. I don't feel like re-doing my keepers or going back on ESPN. I don't like the karma of having to get special treatment or opening a can of worms. Its just my bad luck that the deadline Meatwads saw was on ESPN and it happened to be different and he didn't know otherwise.
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| | | 152 | Great One
ID: 2751238
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 15:24
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And yeah Frick, I should have posted and regret not putting it out there. I don't know why i didn't. I did take a screenshot of the offer pending with an this mornings timestamp before I cancelled it this afternoon.
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| | | 153 | Meatwads
ID: 469291914
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 15:30
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We should all know there are certain disadvantages to coming in as a new player. One of them is that nobody is in a big hurry to catch you up to speed, because they're your competition. I was never told that this thread overpowered anything on our league page. I was under the impression this is a place to discuss potential keepers and figure out who's in the league, things like that. I don't think a one line sentence randomly thrown in amongst hundreds of comments is good enough. As a new player, how am I even supposed to know who is in charge and who's posts have real meaning when I'm under the impression this thread is nothing more than a discussion site? People in this league need to be very well informed of CRITICAL deadlines, and this thread doesn't do that. As a new manager, if nobody tells me directly that there is a big deadline I'm probably going to miss it, even though I'm putting in hours a day trying to compete with everyone and learn rules. I'm not the type of person that's looking for handouts or trying to take advantage of the system. I'm just a new member who clearly sees something is wrong with the way things are done in my opinion. Two managers (at least) are going to have worse teams because of this. Had I been correctly informed the trade between myself and GO would have been completed well before the quietly imposed deadline. I wouldn't have stayed up late talking deals, only to wake up and find that I should have been up at 6 AM PT working on finalizing. I'm asking for you guys to reconsider. I do not think it's in good taste to upset multiple managers over a technicality. None of this may change the ruling but maybe it will get some people to reconsider how things are done.
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| | | 154 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 15:38
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Hey crap...i read "12:00" and thought midnight...sorry man, just getting back from being out and about. Will post mine shortly.
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| | | 155 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 15:43
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And I will say, I was still trying to make trades this morning...hell, I'm still trying!
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| | | 157 | Mike D
ID: 2293167
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 17:34
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I would have accepted your offer had I seen it RSF!
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| | | 158 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 544201619
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 17:36
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Even including your next 8 #1 draft picks...sweeeeeeet!
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| | | 159 | jseth333
Dude
ID: 24100310
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 21:06
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I missed marking my keepers at espn if I could get some help from the commish...
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| | | 160 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 21:24
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This is only my third year in this one but I feel like we have some pretty reliable good-faith type managers in this league....and if things went down like GO and Meatwads said they did, I think the fairest/best solution is to allow the trade. I feel like we can trust each other in this group. Hopefully our new players will soon learn what a great league this is and we'll help them to feel welcome as well.
I agree also with what Frick said, and in a perfect world, GO should have known to post the trade in this thread if it was finalized, separate from the ESPN trade mechanics, though of course Meatwads would have no way to have known that. Having said that, however, this year has felt much more helter skelter than in past years and I think it has led to some obvious confusion and some rushed situations with last minute team acquisitions....with new managers having no way to fully understand or comply with letter of the law situations that are based on league history which they don't have. Even returning guys like me can't recall some league specifics, and we really didn't have our usual "here's how we do things" exhaustive starter posts which leagues on these forums have historically done such a good job with. Of course, I don't know how clear my glasses are b/c I'm freaked out that the draft is starting and I'm completely unprepared and I just found out last night that it was starting tomorrow morning.
So....If it's still a discussible issue, I 'vote' for putting that trade through, fixing errant keeper lists and anything else to try to give everyone some grace and the benefit of the doubt as we try to make this fun for all and not too 'ouchy' in feet to the fire mode. Just my .02
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| | | 161 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 21:30
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By the way, I have to say I love the name "meatwads" ;-)
Starting to wonder about my own choice of moniker after the last few years.
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| | | 162 | Species
ID: 579301322
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 21:35
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PR spells it out pretty well. That's a convincing argument FOR allowing this trade. To be fair, if I allow that one, I have to allow others a chance.
Barring some vehement arguments against, I'll give it until midnight tonight to still make a trade.
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| | | 163 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 21:39
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drafting in a thread on this forum....or kafenatid...or ESPN...How much time per pick, etc? Sorry, need a refresher...
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| | | 164 | Meatwads
ID: 589561920
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 21:57
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Can anyone let me know when and where the draft is taking place tomorrow morning? I've heard a few different things but haven't been given a definite answer. Also any other information, such as how long between picks and if we can pre-rank players before the draft, etc. would be nice.
As far as the previous posts about "the trade", I appreciate Frick and Pacers Rule stepping up for the new guy. I agree fully with what was said by them, and not just because I'm in the middle of the discussion. According to the league rules, it's too late to make the deal. Some times doing what's right involves bending a rule. I believe this is one of those times. This situatuon can be avoided in the future, so there's no reason to think it will set some sort of rule bending spree. Thanks for letting me state my case. Good luck in the draft tomorrow.
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| | | 165 | Great One
ID: 367493122
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 21:58
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Last year we did Kafenatid for the first time in league history with discussion thread on the boards here. It was pretty successful I think.
Guess we need to get that set up.
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| | | 166 | Great One
ID: 367493122
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 22:00
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alright... here was the amazing trade, commish needs to process on ESPN on our behalf cause they are frozen now.
Trade
GO's 2.17 + CDRoberts for Meatwads 4.20 + D.Blair
GO will keep Blair instead of Okur
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| | | 167 | Mike D
ID: 2293167
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 22:07
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That deal throws the balance of the league off.
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| | | 168 | Mike D
ID: 2293167
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 22:07
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;)
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| | | 169 | Meatwads
ID: 589561920
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 22:08
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Confirming trade from post #166...Thanks for being fair and reasonable Species. I appreciate you giving it some thought.
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| | | 170 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 22:20
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All of THAT for THAT trade? ;)
Thank goodness it wasn't a blockbuster - lmao
....although I do like Blair.
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| | | 172 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 22:35
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Cool.......figured out how to get that trade done. Trade deadline extended.
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| | | 173 | slizz
ID: 30921721
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 23:00
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one more "blockbuster" possibly on the horizon. hoping to hear back and we can possibly get a deal done!
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| | | 174 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 23:03
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Kafenatid did work well last year - but a lot of preparatory setup is needed. I did the set up work last year, as I recall - but I would not be available to do it until Thursday (or at least, late Wednesday evening. )
We would also need to get everyone registered for the draft before any of the setup (inputting keepers and trades) can be started.
If Kafenatid is to be used, it might be better to start the draft here anyway, and then migrate to kafenatid once the setup work is done.
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| | | 175 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 23:06
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I have requested a Kafenatid draft. Have to wait for the setup from Kafenatid. Draft might not start at 9:00am tomorrow. Will get it up as quickly as possible.
We had a draft discussion thread last year. I have set one up for this year. Please move all draft-related discussion there.
Draft discussion thread
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| | | 176 | slizz
ID: 30921721
Tue, Oct 19, 2010, 23:10
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no surprises who is going 1st overall...give me John Wall.
kafenatid.net is blocked at my work so I don't want to hold anything up.
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| | | 177 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 544201619
Wed, Oct 20, 2010, 00:01
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With 1.02, RSF picks...oh wait...NO ONE! I got JOBBED!!!!
Racking frackin...grumble grumble grumble...ping pong balls...
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| | | 178 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Wed, Oct 20, 2010, 00:04
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Welcome back, Ref! Good to have you back.
Mike D...what, no trade offers coming my way? Should I feel slighted?
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| | | 179 | Mike D
ID: 2293167
Wed, Oct 20, 2010, 07:38
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Yes? ;)
Deleted the Kafenatid league info, if someone can please resend
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| | | 180 | Frick
ID: 42825248
Wed, Oct 20, 2010, 08:16
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I just sent it to you Mike.
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| | | 181 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 20, 2010, 09:16
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I think there are still two teams without keepers posted. Haven't yet figured out which two teams they are.
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| | | 182 | beastiemiked
ID: 10432914
Wed, Oct 20, 2010, 10:42
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I didn't get anything from kafenatid. Can someone send me it?
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| | | 183 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Oct 20, 2010, 10:43
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WooHoo!
I am in a spot that has WiFi! With that being said, I still won't have much access. CJ needs some info. I have not been given the kaf info. CJ emailed me that he didn't have access to something--but a little confused as to what that was.
I had a deal on the table that a manager was going to take if his first choice wasn't available. I have no idea if that deal went down or not.
I skimmed this thread and Meatwads had a good post aboutn not being informed enough. I am not sure what that was in regards as I literally have maybe 5-10 mins of online time right now (hit me up via email to get me quicker). Species has had some family issues, but normally these leagues are chalked full of info and everyone knows what is up well in advance and if they don't--it is on them. This has been the poorest prepared league because of that. Obviously, I would help if I had the time. We must do a better job moving forward. Tosh has also been very busy. Please send an email out with updates on what is going on so I (and others) can stay up to speed.
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| | | 184 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Wed, Oct 20, 2010, 11:32
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Sent Kafenatid.net stuff to BMD via GMail, and to everyone via the ESPN "email league".
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| | | 185 | coldwater coyotes
SuperDude
ID: 229272412
Wed, Oct 20, 2010, 11:58
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CUT PRICE SALE
SPECIAL
Trevor Ariza for ANY pick!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| | | 186 | youngroman
Donor
ID: 02934823
Wed, Oct 20, 2010, 12:13
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in a few minutes I am away until tomorrow morning (3am ET). I have a late 1st round pick (1.18), so I guess I won't be up until then. If I should really be up until then expect me to make my pick around 3am.
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| | | 187 | Species
ID: 539462011
Wed, Oct 20, 2010, 12:51
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Please move ALL discussion to the draft discussion thread linked in post 175
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