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| Posted by: Species
- Dude [07724916] Wed, Dec 07, 2011, 22:44
Okay, I have sent out a leaguewide email to direct teams to this thread. We will start with getting confirmations of return or notifications of leaving the league. Please state your intentions here.
Last year's standings:
Standings
1. Naptown 'Nados 143
2. beastie miked 137
3. Team Nashty 127
4. coldwater coyotes 125
5. Vampire Weekend 115
6. Endangered Species 113
7. youngroman's Luschen 110.5
8. Mighty Meatwads 109
9. 3 Blind Mice 105.5
10. GO Second City Saints 94.5
11. First Place KnicksFan 91
12. Blurred Crusaders 84
13. Kevin Love Fan Club 80
14. Extreme Basketball 72.5
15. Team Slizz 70
16. SAN FORDORS 69.5
17. No team for old ballers 69
18. IND Frick's DTD 66
19. Roto Guru 64.5
20. Team Perm Dudes 44
11-12 Traded Draft Picks
10/18 - bmd gets Hasheem Thabeet and Species' 4.05 (2010) and 2011 5th round pick
10/18 - Species gets Jamaal Crawford, bmd's 5.14(2010) and bmd's 2011 6th round pick
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11/28 - Meatwads get Yao Ming + RSF 2011 3rd Round pick
11/29 - RSF gets Corey Brewer + Meatwads 2011 2nd Round pick
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12/02 - RSF gets Chuck Hayes + Ref's 2011 3rd and a conditional 5th round pick
12/02 - Ref gets Kris Humphries + RSF's 2011 5th and a conditional 6th round pick
** Cond. 1: If there are more than 5 selections between Ref's 2011.5th and RSF 2011.6th round selections.
** Cond. 2: RSF trades his 6th rounder away.
** If either condition is met - the conditional traded picks are voided.
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1/23 - MikeD gets Anderson Varejao + GreatOnes' 1st Round pick
1/23 - GreatOne gets Chauncey Billups + MikeD's 6th Round pick
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2/1 - GreatOne gets James Harden + coldwater coyotes' 2nd round pick
2/1 - coldwater coyotes gets Tyler Hansbrough + GreatOne's 6th round pick
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2/11 - MikeD gets Jerryd Bayless + PermDude's 2nd round pick
2/11 - PermDude gets Mo Williams + MikeD's 5th round pick
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2/26 - RSF gets Wayne Ellington + Peter N's 5th round pick
2/26 - Peter N. gets JR Smith + RSF's 6th round pick
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2/28 The Maggette-Peja deal includes these clauses:
1. RSF gets the rights to swap Peter Nash's 2011.5th rounder (owned by RSF) for youngroman's 2011.5th rounder, if youngroman's is an earlier pick. If triggered, this completes the deal.
2. If option trigger 1 isn't done, then RSF gets the option to swap RSF.2012-6th rounder for the YR.2012-6th Rounder, if youngroman's selection is earlier than RSF's selection.
3. If trigger 1 and 2 don't occur, the deal stands as Maggette for Stojakovic.
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3/12 - Tosh gets Nazr Mohammed and PeterN's Round 3 pick
3/12 - PeterN gets Anthony Morrow and Tosh's Round 5 pick
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3/19 - Peter N gets Jason Terry, Chuck Hayes + PR's 6th round pick in 2011
3/19 - Pacers Rule gets Mike Bibby, Ben Wallace + Peter N's 2nd round pick in 2011 |
| | | 1 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Wed, Dec 07, 2011, 22:57
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I think my picks pan out like this:
RSF 1st
RSF 2nd
Meatwad 2nd
Ref 3rd
RSF 4th
Peter N 5th
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| | | 2 | Pacers Rule
ID: 570421415
Wed, Dec 07, 2011, 23:48
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Naptown 'Nados are back to defend their crown and make some serious lowball trade offers.
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| | | 3 | Great One
ID: 131137510
Wed, Dec 07, 2011, 23:57
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Yep.
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| | | 4 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Thu, Dec 08, 2011, 00:25
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ditto
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| | | 5 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Thu, Dec 08, 2011, 00:40
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Let's see here:
Scola
KG
Varejao
Chandler
Mo Williams
+ pick-a-scrub
No second round pick. Well, I'd be interested in moving a mid round pick for a slight pick downgrade and a decent bubble keeper. No top 5 rounds available--gotta re-stock.
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| | | 6 | Frick
ID: 52182321
Thu, Dec 08, 2011, 07:18
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I'm in for another year. I haven't even looked at my roster yet, but I'm going to guess by my finishing result last year, it needs some work.
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| | | 7 | youngroman
ID: 56523304
Thu, Dec 08, 2011, 08:00
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I will be back. need to look at my players. It seems that I have too many potential keepers as long as you believe in the ESPN projections.
some players are free agents, so I'll need to wait for tomorrow to see if they stay with their teams or sign elsewhere.
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| | | 8 | beastiemiked
ID: 67181118
Thu, Dec 08, 2011, 09:51
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PD, we only have 6 rounds. So you only want to move your 6th round pick?
I've got a ton of keeper quality guys available.
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| | | 9 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Dec 08, 2011, 10:29
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I'm in.
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| | | 10 | Great One
ID: 574139
Thu, Dec 08, 2011, 10:37
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Is there a list somewhere of people that will be in playing overseas and not play in the NBA this year? Are there some significant people doing that?
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| | | 11 | jseth333
Dude
ID: 24100310
Thu, Dec 08, 2011, 11:46
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VampireWeekend is in.
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| | | 12 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Thu, Dec 08, 2011, 11:56
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#8: Yeah, I meant the last round. That was a very late post!
I'll take a look at your roster today. Obviously you are keeping Bosh, Kobe, Jennings, Antawn, Josh Smith + 1 more, yes?
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| | | 13 | KnicksFan
ID: 521025298
Thu, Dec 08, 2011, 12:48
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Posted in the wrong thread....
I'm in!
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| | | 14 | Coldwater coyotes
ID: 55229323
Thu, Dec 08, 2011, 13:20
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In
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| | | 15 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Dec 08, 2011, 13:50
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Wow, I really sucked last year, didn't I?
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| | | 16 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Thu, Dec 08, 2011, 15:21
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I'm in
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| | | 17 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Thu, Dec 08, 2011, 18:15
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I'm in.
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| | | 18 | youngroman
ID: 56523304
Thu, Dec 08, 2011, 18:59
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I guess these are the players with value that will need to play in China until March:
Wilson Chandler
Kenyon Martin
JR Smith
Aaron Brooks
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| | | 19 | Peter N.
ID: 491124818
Thu, Dec 08, 2011, 19:24
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In
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| | | 20 | beastiemiked
ID: 67181118
Thu, Dec 08, 2011, 21:41
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As of now, I'm keeping Kobe, J Smith, Bosh, Jennings, Ibaka, and Gortat.
Nicolas Batum(only 22) and Antawn Jamison both are available for pick upgrades. Bayless and George Hill can be had for real cheap if anybody wants to take a flier on them.
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| | | 21 | Pacers Rule
ID: 431144419
Fri, Dec 09, 2011, 00:34
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15 in, 5 to go.
tentatively....
Naptown 'Nados KEEPERS
1. Dwayne Waaaaaaaaaade
2. ROY aka Human Highlight Reel
3. Andrew "Safari" Bynum
4. "Maybe this is my year" Hibbert
5. Tyson, er, Mike Conley
6. Old Man-u Ginobili
SLEEPERS
1. Shane Battier, SF, Mia
2. Mike Dunleavy, SF, Mil
3. Shawn Williams, SF, NYK?
4. Mike Bibby, PG, ???
5. Patrick Patterson, PF, Hou
6. Ryan Hollins, C, Cle
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| | | 22 | Pacers Rule
ID: 431144419
Fri, Dec 09, 2011, 00:51
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PD,
If Chandler goes to the Knicks, Bynum better stay healthy and block some more David Lee shots.
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| | | 23 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Fri, Dec 09, 2011, 01:25
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In:
Species
Pacers Rule
RSF
Great One
PermDude
Frick
youngroman
bmd
Guru
Peter N.
VampireWeekend
KnicksFan
Dave R
Tosh
coldwater coyotes
Still to check in:
Meatwads
Mike D
Slizz
Pistol Pete
one other
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| | | 24 | Mike D
ID: 14114790
Fri, Dec 09, 2011, 01:47
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My team and draft are set up great for this year. I regret that I won't have time to run it. Please sell it to the highest bidder (ie, find someone please!)
Love the draft picks too. :-(
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| | | 25 | Meatwads
ID: 26114192
Fri, Dec 09, 2011, 03:41
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I'm in.
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| | | 26 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Fri, Dec 09, 2011, 10:48
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#22: I heard he's just about signed with the Knicks. I had thought he was going to the Warriors, but wherever he lands he'll be bring the same game, I think.
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| | | 27 | Ref
ID: 34731299
Fri, Dec 09, 2011, 13:38
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I'm in.
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| | | 28 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Fri, Dec 09, 2011, 21:54
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I have changed the settings at ESPN, so you can now post/click your keepers. I had to pick some sort of date, so I picked Tuesday morning. That is by no means the deadline. Just a semi-random date for now.
When we first moved to ESPN, they did not allow game maximums by position ... only total games. We had a 720 game max., which is 10% more than an 82-game max. (656 games).
ESPN now allows maximums by position. So I pose the question ...
Do we want to have a 'games played limit' of ...
1. 584 total games (66 games * 8 positions + 10%)
2. 73 games per position (66 games + 10%)
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| | | 29 | beastiemiked
ID: 67181118
Fri, Dec 09, 2011, 23:11
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I'd prefer them all be lumped together. We already have too many GP's imo. I think this way it adds flexibility for the owners that come down with injuries. Plus, it's pain checking how many GP's you have at each position and trying to manage accordingly.
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| | | 30 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Fri, Dec 09, 2011, 23:18
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I agree.
Hopefully with a shorter season the late season injuries won't be killing some of us.
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| | | 31 | Meatwads
ID: 26114192
Fri, Dec 09, 2011, 23:54
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Just want to throw a message out to the league regarding trades. I'm about ready to get into trade mode so I may be contacting some of you via e-mail to see if something is possible. Generally, here is how I view my team in regards to trades. (1) Aldridge, Rondo, Martin and Monroe are off-limits unless someone of equal or greater value is being dangled. (2) Allen and Thornton are my 5th/6th keepers at the moment. Since that gives me 3 SG's, I'd be willing to move one of them for a forward. (Preferably Allen because of the age difference) (3) Thad Young is my bubble guy. I would be willing to trade him for a substantial pick upgrade. (4) The rest of my roster could be had for a small pick upgrade. Anyone who wants to discuss something, feel free to contact me at michaelpatrickrichards@gmail.com
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| | | 32 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Sat, Dec 10, 2011, 00:20
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@28: I agree it feels like a few too many GP and is a bit of a struggle to get them all in. While the total games limit does make it easier to manage that piece of it, it also limits accountability to have a balanced roster. It limits the consequences of failing to plan for injuries (carrying only one Center or two Guards, for example), and allows one to intentionally skew category totals by running extra bigs or smalls as the case may be. Without the PG/SG and SF/PF distinction and 3 utility slots, we already allow a lot of roster flexibility.
One potential balance would be to restore the limits to being based on position/roster spots, but reduce the GP to schedule or schedule + 5%. While this may seem like a small change, over 8 positions in a normal season this would amount to about 32 less games played which I think would help out a bit. That would make the waiver wire adds slightly less important relative to the draft and trades but probably still of adequate weight.
Maybe I am mistaken, but I thought we had our rosters set for 2 G, 2 F, 1 C, and 3 Util, with 4 bench slots. Right now we look to be set up RIHC style with 2 PG, 2 SG, etc.
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| | | 33 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Sat, Dec 10, 2011, 00:24
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LOL, that would be because I was looking at my RIHC league page, not my G20 one. Doh!!
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| | | 34 | youngroman
ID: 56523304
Sat, Dec 10, 2011, 04:28
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with fewer off-days this season, 10% seems to be unreachable with our small bench and potential injuries. 5% should be enough at least for this season.
would have no problem on limiting the games played by position, but since we only have G/F/C that does not make sense, because with daily roster updates you can achieve that anyway. there are too many players eligible at PF/C or SG/SF.
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| | | 35 | slizz
ID: 151136106
Sat, Dec 10, 2011, 07:36
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Sorry guys...I'm out this year as I won't have fulltime access to the internet from Monday - Friday until January 27th.
Best of luck!!!
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| | | 36 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Sat, Dec 10, 2011, 13:09
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Need to amend post 1
I think my picks pan out like this:
RSF 1st
RSF 2nd
Meatwads 2nd
Ref 3rd
RSF 4th
youngroman 5th
Dumbass me was forgetting to reverse the standings.
I'm going to start sending some trade offers out there, including some multi-team ones.
And I'm in the 'combined total games'.
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| | | 37 | Pistol Pete
ID: 3311551014
Sat, Dec 10, 2011, 18:07
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Not sure why I didn't get the email but I'm in for another year.
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| | | 38 | Ref
ID: 34731299
Sun, Dec 11, 2011, 17:32
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I will send Brandon Roy out for cheap! ;)
I've already lost before the season starts again.
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| | | 39 | Pacers Rule
ID: 279121921
Sun, Dec 11, 2011, 22:38
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If I hadn't been so impulsive, I could be dealing Caron Butler for a small pick upgrade right now.
I bet those owners that made offers for Roy are glad now you held on to him.
Were you ever a Kenny Rogers fan? (If so, would you admit it?) Looks like one of us needs to know when to hold 'em.
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| | | 40 | Great One
ID: 131137510
Mon, Dec 12, 2011, 18:36
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So we need some new managers? are we contracting? Was there an email or just go back to the ESPN site?
It says keepers are due tomorrow on the league page, i assume thats not correct.
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| | | 41 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Mon, Dec 12, 2011, 22:05
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If there's an opening, I might be inclined to take on a team again. Had to give my original team up a few years ago due to work/family issues, but more free time these days. If there's a waiting list, I can add my name for a future opening as well.
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| | | 42 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Mon, Dec 12, 2011, 23:13
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Three way deal:
Permdude gets:
Ray Allen, SG (from Meatwads)
2012.2nd rounder (from Meatwads)
2011.2nd rounder (from RSF)
2011.5th rounder (from youngroman, via RSF)
Meatwads gets:
Paul Millsap, PF (from RSF)
2012.3nd rounder (from RSF)
2011.2nd rounder (from Meatwads, via RSF)
RSF gets:
2012.1st rounder (from Permdude)
2011.3rd rounder (from Permdude)
2011.3rd rounder (from RSF, via Meatwads)
2011.6th rounder (from Permdude)
Please note, its a mix of 2011 and 2012 picks.
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| | | 43 | Pacers Rule
ID: 179331316
Mon, Dec 12, 2011, 23:30
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Dang, no wonder nobody wants to commish this league, LOL
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| | | 44 | Meatwads
ID: 5011321222
Mon, Dec 12, 2011, 23:33
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Confirming 3-way deal.
I'd like to welcome by boy Paul Millsap and say sorry to Ray Ray.
If anyone is looking to add a last minute keeper I have a couple vets (Caron Butler SG/SF, Carl Landry PF) and a few young players (Thaddeus Young SF, O.J. Mayo SG, Paul George SG/SF). I'm just looking to make a fair draft pick swap, depending on who the player is.
michaelpatrickrichards@gmail.com is the spot to start negotiations.
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| | | 45 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Mon, Dec 12, 2011, 23:57
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Confirming trade.
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| | | 46 | beastiemiked
ID: 67181118
Tue, Dec 13, 2011, 10:40
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Still looking to move Batum or Jamison. Both can be had for relatively cheap. Batum would be great for a team looking for a huge upside guy while Jamison could shore up a bunch of stats for a team looking to compete.
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| | | 47 | beastiemiked
ID: 67181118
Tue, Dec 13, 2011, 16:02
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Can we set a keeper deadline? Season starts in 12 days and we've got the holidays to deal with. I'd love a lot of time to wheel and deal since I have some guys I need to move but that's just not feasible this year. By setting the keeper deadline those looking to trade can get their butts in gear :)
How about keeper deadline Friday at noon? With draft starting asap? That gives us about a week to draft which IIRC should definitely not be a problem since we only have 6 rounds.
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| | | 48 | Great One
ID: 574139
Tue, Dec 13, 2011, 16:07
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I think we need several new managers. SkinneeJ can be one... but I think we need a couple more.
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| | | 49 | Pacers Rule
ID: 179331316
Tue, Dec 13, 2011, 18:05
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The site shows that the keeper deadline was switched to tonight at 11PM. Greg are you commishing this year or are we still in negotiations?
Turns out I have the starting PG for D'Antoni's Knicks for sale for a someone looking for some cheap assists and 3's and a sixth keeper.
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| | | 50 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Tue, Dec 13, 2011, 21:15
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Jason Terry, super 6th man (or is he starting now?),
Solid vet PG for 3s, Steals, Dimes and percentages is available as someone's 5th/6th keeper. Looking for a draft pick upgrade somewhere...this year or next.
He doesn't really fit my roster, but will gladly keep him for all the categories he stuffs.
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| | | 51 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Wed, Dec 14, 2011, 00:00
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Guys - I am f**ked for time. I'm working 11 hour days (with no ability to access the Board except through my phone) and lost a week with a kid in the hospital. I do not have the capacity to devote the hours necessary to make the arrangements for the league. Someone is going to need to step up if we want this done.
Sorry.
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| | | 52 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Dec 14, 2011, 12:25
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Trade:
Guru gets Nicolas Batum and bmd's 2011 5th round pick (originally traded from Species)
bmd gets Guru's 2011 3rd round pick
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| | | 53 | beastiemiked
ID: 67181118
Wed, Dec 14, 2011, 12:26
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So we need 1 more manager and that should be 20. Somebody go trash talk bh so he joins.
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| | | 54 | beastiemiked
ID: 67181118
Wed, Dec 14, 2011, 12:27
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Confirmed.
I can help if need be.
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| | | 55 | Pacers Rule
ID: 570421415
Wed, Dec 14, 2011, 13:48
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I can also help if needed. We definitely need to get rolling. Sorry to hear about your kid, greg. Hope all is well now. Previous managers should get first invites to fill the last spot?
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| | | 56 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Wed, Dec 14, 2011, 17:17
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So are you looking for one additional manager besides me or one total? Also, what teams are available and how can I see rosters and such?
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| | | 57 | Great One
ID: 574139
Wed, Dec 14, 2011, 17:20
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Yeah, one more in addition to yourself...
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| | | 58 | Ref
ID: 34731299
Wed, Dec 14, 2011, 20:18
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Yeah I am swamped as well. Tosh is leaving for Hawaii so we the league is going to need some others to step up to get it going on time.
My team needs to make trades, I just haven't had the time to look yet.
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| | | 59 | Meatwads
ID: 26114192
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 00:02
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I can help get things going if I'm needed. Someone just let me know if there's something I can do.
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| | | 60 | KnicksFan
ID: 521025298
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 09:46
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I think I'm keeping:
Dwight Howard
Joe Johnson
David West
John Salmons
Boris Diaw
Tyrus Thomas
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| | | 61 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 10:10
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I think we need to do the following:
1. Find one more manager and assign teams to the two new managers. (The two teams are Mike D's and slizz, correct?)
2. Map out the round-by-round draft order, and run the lottery to adjust round 1. (I can run the lottery)
3. Nail down keepers for each team. Usually these are marked at ESPN and posted in a separate thread.
4. Run the draft. If we want to use Draftime for this (aka kafenatid), I can set that up (including keepers).
Getting this all done before Dec 25 sounds ambitious.
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| | | 62 | Meatwads
ID: 26114192
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 10:52
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Trade :
SAN FORDORS recieve Paul George and Meatwads 2011 5th round pick
Meatwads recieve SAN FORDORS 2011 4th round pick
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| | | 63 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 11:23
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Here are the two teams up for grabs:
Extreme Basketball - finished 14th last year
Team slizz - finished 15th last year
When awarding two orphaned teams, we usually flip a coin and give the winner first choice.
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| | | 64 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 11:40
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I extended the keeper deadline at ESPN until Sunday at 6pm. That re-opens the ability to mark your team keepers over there.
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| | | 65 | Great One
ID: 574139
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 12:39
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Thanks Guru, good plan.
So the two new managers will be skinneeJ and dpr. Congrats and welcome to them.
Thanks to beebop and WG for interest, we will put them under consideration should another opening emerge in the future.
So I guess just go ahead and do the coin flip and the winner of the flip can pick his team.
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| | | 66 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 13:07
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Coin flip winner is skinneej, so he gets his pick of the two teams. dpr gets the other one.
I'll wait to run the lottery until skinneej selects, so that he doesn't have that info in advance.
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| | | 67 | dpr
ID: 2410181422
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 13:46
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Alright guys glad to be in the league. I will likely be looking for extra high upside keepers for either team as they both look a bit thin(however I am not used to 20 teams). If anyone has good extra players feel free to email me, otherwise I will just scour the thread to try and figure out whats out there.
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| | | 68 | Skinneej
ID: 26914279
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 14:19
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I'll take Slizz's team
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| | | 69 | Great One
ID: 574139
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 14:49
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Cool, making some progress here.
Dave do you want set up a Draftime draft then and we can all get registered so we are ready to roll right after keeper deadline?
I think the toughest part right now is someone figuring out the draft chart with all the picks. I definitely don't have time for that today, I could give it a try tomorrow night - but if anyone else can give it a shot, we would all appreciate...
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| | | 70 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 15:50
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Agree with post 62
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| | | 71 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 16:06
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I'll run the lottery in a few moments. Confirmation copies of the lottery draws will be sent to Ref and GO.
The spreadsheet which maps the lottery combinations to team names is here:
http://rotoguru1.com/hoop/G20/G20-Oct11-14x4_balls.xls
The teams finishing 7-20 last year are in the lottery. The 20th place team has a 25% chance of being selected on any draw. The odds grade down from there. The 7th place team has only a .5% chance of being selected.
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| | | 72 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 16:11
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First pick: 1-6-12-13 Perm Dude
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| | | 73 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 16:12
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2nd pick: 1-4-10-12 RotoGuru
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| | | 74 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 16:14
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3rd pick: 6-7-8-12 Great One
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| | | 75 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 16:16
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So, in the first round, the first three picks will be owned by (assuming they weren't already traded)
Perm Dude
Guru
Great One
The remainder of the first round will be in reverse order of the standings, as will all subsequent rounds.
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| | | 76 | Great One
ID: 574139
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 16:32
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Really, this year I win a lottery pick? The year I traded away my pick? Awesome.
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| | | 77 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 16:34
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League invitations were just sent from ESPN to dpr and Skinneej.
Draftime registration info was just sent to all managers. Please let me know if you didn't receive it. FOr the 18 returning managers, this was sent out from the ESPN system.
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| | | 78 | Great One
ID: 574139
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 16:43
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Like I said, looks like we have made great strides today. Thanks to Guru for getting the lottery completed and Draftime setup.
Hopefully everyone can get signed up asap.
Everyone good with keepers by 6 PM Sunday? then we can try and get everything entered and turn things on for Monday a.m.
I will start up a keeper declaration thread.
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| | | 79 | Ref
ID: 34731299
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 16:53
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Lottery results confirmed.
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| | | 80 | Pacers Rule
ID: 179331316
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 17:14
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Welcome (back) skineej and dpr! In my mind, you are the two owners who know if you can be ready with keepers before Sunday. The rest of us have had almost a week or more to think about keepers and any trades we might want to try to make (except with the two teams changing owners). Saturday at 6pm for a keeper deadline is 48 hours and might allow us to get the draft going Sunday, which might give us a great jump on the draft given our severe time crunch. Just putting it out there.
Thanks for stepping up Guru and GO to get us moving. It might help completing the draft grid if those with conditional pick trades would go ahead and resolve those conditions and post the outcome in this thread with confirmation from their trading partner. Some of those are awfully convoluted. I will try to work on the draft chart later tonight unless someone beats me to it.
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| | | 81 | Great One
ID: 574139
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 17:20
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If anyone agrees we should change the keeper deadline just post it in the bold in the keeper thread... any time is fine with me.
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| | | 82 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 17:51
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I set it for Sunday at 6PM because I figured we needed to start drafting by Monday morning. I'll be away on Sunday afternoon, but should be able to set up the keepers and draft order in Draftime on Sunday evening.
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| | | 83 | Great One
ID: 131137510
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 19:17
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Yeah, nobody is going to remember to post or enter keepers on a Saturday night anyway... but on a Sunday afternoon, you might be checking football etc.
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| | | 84 | dpr
ID: 2410181422
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 19:25
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To clarify on my draft picks,
I have GO 1.03, MikeD 1.07, PD 2.01, MD 2.07, MD 3.07 and 4.07?
I was worried about catching up in a league with so many players kept but it looks like I have some great draft picks (especially with my lottery luck) to get something done.
Right now have M. Gasol, Felton, Jo.Crawford, Collison, L.Williams and Aminu as keepers.
Thats 4 bench players with the recent rumors about collison so would definitely like to upgrade the last 2 spots at least.
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| | | 85 | dpr
ID: 2410181422
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 20:10
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Does anyone have previous draft results that they could share?
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| | | 86 | Peter N.
ID: 491124818
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 20:25
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Welcome skinneej and dpr!
I have my keepers marked in espn and joined the draft. Let's get the show on the road! We are going to be cutting it close on time. I'm fine with 6pm Sunday as the keeper deadline.
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| | | 87 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 20:34
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Last year's draft
Rounds 1-6 are the keepers.
Format isn't the easiest to work with, but the data is all there.
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| | | 88 | Great One
ID: 1611441519
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 20:44
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You can sort the header by pick and start at 7.01 John Wall...
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| | | 89 | dpr
ID: 2410181422
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 20:44
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That link doesnt work for me because i wasnt in that draft. Looks like they list archived draft by manager so copy pasting the rounds isnt that easy either. Still would like to have some look at how the first couple rounds run.
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| | | 90 | Skinneej
ID: 26914279
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 20:45
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My team is guard heavy, so looking to trade Tony Parker for a big man of similar value. If your team is looking for a pg, shoot me an email.
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| | | 91 | dpr
ID: 2410181422
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 20:46
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Ok I see how you can sort but still cant see the draft. Does someone mind copy pasting it for me? I can then work thru the formatting. You can send it to me if it looks to ugly for the forums
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| | | 92 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 20:59
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dpr - email sent with last year's draft
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| | | 93 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Thu, Dec 15, 2011, 23:06
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Attn Guru - I have not received an email with the draftime info.
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| | | 94 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Fri, Dec 16, 2011, 02:26
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re: 84
I'm through the picks prior to the trades from this fall and I think you've got them all figured out except that your 1.07 is actually 1.08 since GO's lottery win caused him to jump you in the round 1 order (your 1.03 pick) and bump non-lottery winners down a spot until 1.12.
Looks like Mike D really set you up nice for a big draft this year. Two of the first 8 picks and then 2 of the first 7 picks in round 2.
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| | | 95 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Fri, Dec 16, 2011, 02:59
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GO & Guru, email sent
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| | | 96 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Dec 16, 2011, 08:40
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| Pick | Round 1 | Round 2 | Round 3 | Round 4 | Round 5 | Round 6 | | 1 | Perm Dude | dpr | Rsf | PD | PD | Rsf | | 2 | Guru | Guru | bmd | Guru | Guru | Guru | | 3 | dpr | Frick | Frick | Frick | Frick | Frick | | 4 | Frick | PD | Rsf | Rsf | Ref | Peter N | | 5 | RSF | Dave R | Dave R | Meatwads | Dave R | Dave R | | 6 | Sanforders | Slizz | Slizz | Slizz | Slizz | Slizz | | 7 | Skinneej | dpr | dpr | dpr | PD | Great One | | 8 | dpr | Tosh | Tosh | Tosh | Peter N | Tosh | | 9 | Tosh | Pistol Pete | Pistol Pete | Pistol Pete | Pistol Pete | Pistol Pete | | 10 | Pistol Pete | KnicksFan | KnicksFan | KnicksFan | KnicksFan | KnicksFan | | 11 | Knicksfan | Great one | Great one | Great one | Great one | coldwater | | 12 | Ref | Ref | Rsf | Ref | Ref | Ref | | 13 | Meatwads | Meatwads | Meatwads | Meatwads | Dave R | Meatwads | | 14 | Youngroman | Youngroman | Youngroman | Youngroman | PD | Youngroman | | 15 | Species | Species | Species | Species | Guru | Species | | 16 | jseth33 | jseth33 | jseth33 | jseth33 | jseth33 | jseth33 | | 17 | Coldwater | Great one | coldwater | coldwater | coldwater | coldwater | | 18 | Peter N | PR | Tosh | Peter N | Youngroman | Peter N | | 19 | bmd | bmd | bmd | bmd | bmd | Species | | 20 | Pacers Rule | PR | PR | PR | PR | Peter N | | | | | | | | |
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| | | 97 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Dec 16, 2011, 08:41
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Thanks to Pacers Rule for assembling this draft grid. Please review it to make sure it agrees with your expectations.
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| | | 99 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Dec 16, 2011, 09:44
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So far, 15 teams have signed up at Draftime.
I don't see the following yet:
Frick
Dave R
Meatwads
Species
beaastiemiked
jseth333
One of you is registered as "PropheticOne". Who is that?
The other five need to sign in. Let me know if you need the registration data.
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| | | 100 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Fri, Dec 16, 2011, 09:45
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never received the info
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| | | 101 | Frick
ID: 387512315
Fri, Dec 16, 2011, 10:59
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If I got it, I confused it with a draft notice from the RIHC, could you resend it?
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| | | 102 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Dec 16, 2011, 11:12
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I've been trying to get trades processed this morning at ESPN so that keepers are on the correct teams. Let me know if there is still a keeper missing from your roster.
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| | | 103 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Dec 16, 2011, 12:35
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PropheticWon is Meatwads
Everyone is now signed up except for Species.
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| | | 104 | Species
ID: 5911351611
Fri, Dec 16, 2011, 12:36
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Signing up now
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| | | 105 | Pacers Rule
ID: 279121921
Fri, Dec 16, 2011, 14:46
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Skineej - obviously picks marked Slizz after round 1 are yours though somehow I managed to change all Mike D's to dpr. Similarly, Dave R you're listed by team name in round 1 only. I guess the lesson here is Whiskey and Draft tables don't mix. You might want to check your picks twice ;-)
I only was aware of the one outstanding (and three way) trade for 2012. Other than that, I think we're all good.
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| | | 106 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Fri, Dec 16, 2011, 19:06
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Great One, I know you rejected that trade offer, but I just wanted to see if you saw the pick upgrades I had in there for you too?
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| | | 107 | Peter N.
ID: 491124818
Fri, Dec 16, 2011, 20:04
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The draft grid looks good to me. I better make my 1st round pick count! Yikes
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| | | 108 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Fri, Dec 16, 2011, 20:06
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Just remember, don't pick Desmond Mason. Nor Desmond Howard...although he might have made a better pick then Mason. Maybe Desmond Hume.
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| | | 109 | Peter N.
ID: 491124818
Fri, Dec 16, 2011, 20:24
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I remember taking Stephen Curry with, I believe, the 12th pick a couple of years ago. That's working out nicely and made up for taking Marvin Williams over Chris Paul several years back.
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| | | 110 | Great One
ID: 1611441519
Fri, Dec 16, 2011, 22:20
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Did not... for some reason I'm not getting trade offers in email either.
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| | | 111 | Pacers Rule
Leader
ID: 910311210
Fri, Dec 16, 2011, 23:38
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@107 Wow, you've got the sixth round pretty well covered this draft. On the plus side, think of all the crazy fliers you can take on deep sleepers :-)
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| | | 112 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 08:23
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Maybe I missed it, but when is the draft starting?
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| | | 113 | slizz
ID: 151136106
Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 10:18
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Good luck, skinnej...I finally got the team a good foundation for future success. Just get a big man and it should be a perennial contender for years to come with the core of Evans, Wall, Rubio, Deng, and Wright...all young and provide multiple cat production...I hope to be back next year!!!
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| | | 114 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 12:06
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[112] Plan is:
Keepers are locked in at 6pm ET Sunday. Please post them in the Keeper thread at this forum, and also mark them at ESPN.
Sunday evening, I'll set up the keepers and the draft pick order at Draftime. Once that's set up, I'll activate the draft. Assume that we are officially starting on Monday morning, although I should have it turned on late Sunday night.
The history of this league is to use a 3 hour clock, so I'll plan to stick with that. I'll use a 9 hour clock moratorium (11pm-8am ET), just so that everyone in the western hemisphere has at least a 12 hour window overnight.
Based on the pace of other drafts, I think we should be able to complete the draft by Friday.
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| | | 115 | beastiemiked
ID: 67181118
Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 21:16
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Trade Announcement
bmd sends Toney Douglas and his 2012 6th round pick
to
coldwater Coyotes for his 2012 4th round pick
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| | | 116 | dpr
ID: 2410181422
Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 21:38
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dpr sends 4.08
bmd sends tony allen and 4.19
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| | | 117 | dpr
ID: 2410181422
Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 21:43
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edit 4.07
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| | | 118 | beastiemiked
ID: 67181118
Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 21:48
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Confirmed.
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| | | 119 | Species
ID: 124591311
Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 22:07
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Trade:
skineej gets Elton Brand
Species gets Tony Parker
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| | | 120 | Skinneej
ID: 26914279
Sat, Dec 17, 2011, 22:08
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Confirmed
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| | | 121 | Coldwater coyotes
ID: 55229323
Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 01:13
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Confirmed
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| | | 122 | Meatwads
ID: 411140189
Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 10:40
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Trade Announcement
dpr recieves :
Thaddeus Young
2011 - Pick 6.13
Meatwads recieve :
2011 - Pick 4.19
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| | | 123 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 12:14
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I extended the keeper deadline setting at ESPN by several hours to facilitate setup for the draft - making sure that I can edit those as needed.
Our actual deadline is still 6pm ET today.
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| | | 124 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 13:46
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Dang, I feel as though I need to make another trade.
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| | | 125 | Frick
ID: 52182321
Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 16:08
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Do we need to set our own keepers? I wasn't seeing the option.
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| | | 126 | dpr
ID: 2410181422
Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 16:17
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122 confirmed
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| | | 127 | Ref
ID: 34731299
Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 18:00
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Guys I just got home. Setting keepers now.
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| | | 129 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 18:20
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Never mind, looks like he just did it.
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| | | 130 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 18:27
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I believe this is the drat pick grid as of now: | Pick | Round 1 | Round 2 | Round 3 | Round 4 | Round 5 | Round 6 | | 1 | Perm Dude | dpr | Rsf | PD | PD | Rsf | | 2 | Guru | Guru | bmd | Guru | Guru | Guru | | 3 | dpr | Frick | Frick | Frick | Frick | Frick | | 4 | Frick | PD | Rsf | Rsf | Ref | Peter N | | 5 | RSF | Dave R | Dave R | Meatwads | Dave R | Dave R | | 6 | Dave R | Skinneej | Skinneej | Skinneej | Skinneej | Skinneej | | 7 | Skinneej | dpr | dpr | bmd | PD | Great One | | 8 | dpr | Tosh | Tosh | Tosh | Peter N | Tosh | | 9 | Tosh | Pistol Pete | Pistol Pete | Pistol Pete | Pistol Pete | Pistol Pete | | 10 | Pistol Pete | KnicksFan | KnicksFan | KnicksFan | KnicksFan | KnicksFan | | 11 | Knicksfan | Great one | Great one | Great one | Great one | coldwater | | 12 | Ref | Ref | Rsf | Ref | Ref | Ref | | 13 | Meatwads | Meatwads | Meatwads | Meatwads | Dave R | dpr | | 14 | Youngroman | Youngroman | Youngroman | Youngroman | PD | Youngroman | | 15 | Species | Species | Species | Species | Guru | Species | | 16 | jseth33 | jseth33 | jseth33 | jseth33 | jseth33 | jseth33 | | 17 | Coldwater | Great one | coldwater | coldwater | coldwater | coldwater | | 18 | Peter N | PR | Tosh | Peter N | Youngroman | Peter N | | 19 | bmd | bmd | bmd | Meatwads | bmd | Species | | 20 | Pacers Rule | PR | PR | PR | PR | Peter N | | | | | | | | |
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| | | 131 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 21:29
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The draft has been set up, and I will be activating it in a moment. All draft-related discussion should take place in the draft discussion thread.
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| | | 132 | Skinneej
ID: 26914279
Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 17:22
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Looking to move up so if u pick in next 10-12 spots I'll trade my next two picks (4.06 and 5.06) for your current pick and 6th round pick.
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| | | 133 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 17:33
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Just emailed you Skinneej. Hope I had the right email addy.
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| | | 134 | Skinneej
ID: 26914279
Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 18:05
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Draft pick swap:
RSF gets 2011 5th round (5.06) plus 2012 3rd
Skinneej gets 2011 3rd (3.12) plus 2012 5th round
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| | | 135 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 22:40
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RSF will select Hawes for me at 3.12 based on our email confirmation, then he will own pick 5.06.
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| | | 136 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Tue, Dec 20, 2011, 23:04
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Selected.
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| | | 137 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Wed, Dec 21, 2011, 00:52
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I know its preseason, but it was sure nice to see JJ Hickson and David Lee putting up sweet numbers. Its also nice that they are both PF/C eligible.
And thank you to whoever did the trade update in draftime and on ESPN.
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| | | 138 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Thu, Dec 22, 2011, 11:14
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skinneej, did you get my trade email offer?
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