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Subject: RIHC 2011-12: Injury Slot Designations


  Posted by: Guru - [330592710] Fri, Dec 23, 2011, 17:29

This is the seventh year we will be using the Injury Slot for the RIHC league, and I believe that some of the QLs may be using that rule as well.

Here are the RIHC rules:

Three bench slots are available to hold any player. Two additional bench slots will be enabled, but are restricted as “injury slots”, hereafter abbreviated as “IS”.

An NBA player shall be eligible to fill an IS if he is listed in any “informed” source as being injured more seriously than “day-to-day”. Examples of acceptable information sources include (but are not limited to):
RotoWire
RotoWorld
RotoTimes
ESPN
NBA.com
Newspaper stories (citing facts, not speculation).

Once a player appears in an NBA game, he is no longer eligible to fill an IS, even if a published source fails to remove his listing. When a player is no longer IS eligible, the team shall have a limited amount of time to remove that player from the IS, as defined below.

If a manager wishes to move a player into an IS but cannot find a confirming source, he may request that the Commissioner approve the designation. The Commissioner shall use his best judgment in making such a determination.

If any manager believes that another team has improperly moved a player into an IS, he may file a protest with the Commissioner. If any manager disagrees with a Commissioner ruling, he may request a league vote. Six votes shall be required to overturn any Commissioner ruling related to an IS.

Each Wednesday, the Commissioner (or his designee) shall review all rosters to assure that any filled injury slots are appropriate. In the event that an IS is improperly filled, the Commissioner will notify the manager of the violation via the email link at the Yahoo site. The notified manager will have 48 hours to correct the roster or to provide a satisfactory explanation. If a breach remains uncorrected 48 hours after notice, the Commissioner shall have the authority to drop a bench player in order to bring the roster into conformance. The player dropped will be based upon the Commissioner’s judgment as to the best interests of the impacted team.

The Commissioner shall have the latitude to extend the time for curing a breach if he knows that the manager is unreachable and/or unavailable to make the adjustment.

No player which is in an IS slot may be placed in a starting slot on any day unless the bench has been cleared of that injury slot, or unless another player is eligible to replace that player in the vacated IS. In the event of a violation, the Commissioner may elect to void any stats generated by improperly activated player.

No player may be picked up as a free agent and immediately placed in an IS. Free agent additions are only IS eligible 10 days after pickup, unless the player has appeared in an NBA game after the pickup and the IS eligibility occurred thereafter. The 10-day waiting period does not apply to players who a were added to the roster as part of the preseason draft.


This thread will serve as a central clearinghouse for IS-eligible players, to be used as follows:
  1. Whenever a manager in any RIHC-related league decides to declare a player injured and eligible for an IS slot, they must first check this thread to see whether that player has already been declared as IS-eligible.
  2. If that player has not yet been listed, then that manager must post a message declaring the player's status, and providing justification, with a link to a confirming source, if possible.
  3. At that time, any member of any league may post a challenge to that declaration if they wish. If more than one challenge is submitted, then the RIHC Commissioners will post a decision.
  4. If a player is persistently listed as day-to-day, that player may be placed on IS once he has missed five consecutive games.
  5. If an IS declaration has been made for a player and has not been challenged, then any other manager with that player may accord that player IS status as well, without needing to post. In other words, only one (the first) manager needs to post that declaration.
  6. When a player returns to action and is no longer eligible, someone (the original manager, a Commish, or any other manager) should post a courtesy note to that effect.
Commissioners will still need to perform a weekly review of their respective leagues to monitor compliance. If the Commissioner wishes, he may delegate this duty to another league member.
 
1TD
      ID: 539351921
      Sat, Dec 24, 2011, 11:13
Brook Lopez

Rotowire:
Lopez underwent successful foot surgery Friday, Colin Stephenson of The Star-Ledger reports.
Spin:
The Nets set Lopez's return timetable at 6-to-8 weeks, so don't expect him to make his season debut until February at the earliest.
 
2deejay
      Sustainer
      ID: 501182710
      Sun, Dec 25, 2011, 18:39
Iman Shumpert's sprained right knee will keep him out anywhere from two to four weeks.

(Rotoworld)
 
3tommyd
      ID: 28237206
      Sun, Dec 25, 2011, 22:10
G Baron Davis officially signed his free agent contract with the New York Knicks on Monday, but it's unclear when he will get on the court. Davis has a herniated disk in his back that he said could sideline him for 8-10 weeks. But a source close to Davis told ESPNNewYork.com that he could return in 4-6 weeks "if not sooner."
(Yahoo! Sports)
 
4Gescom
      Dude
      ID: 520461315
      Wed, Dec 28, 2011, 13:45
Tyrus Thomas (Ankle) - Out, no timetable for his return, per Rotoworld.
 
5skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Sun, Jan 01, 2012, 17:12
Per Rotoworld:

Jerryd Bayless (sprained left ankle) will miss the next two games before being re-evaluated on Tuesday.
 
6Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Sun, Jan 01, 2012, 18:11
A little clarification please, not to nit pick. In this case, Bayless is out 2 games before being re-evaluated. Those two games are today and tomorrow, so he might very well be back for the next game.

The rules state that someone who is " day to day " has to be out for 5 games. So how can someone who is out for only 2 games, maybe, be eligible for IS?
 
7Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Jan 01, 2012, 18:25
Bayless is a borderline case. Even though the prognosis is uncertain beyond the next two games, I think I'd argue that this still sounds more like a day-to-day situation.

Remember that although we are being necessarily flexible, we are trying to replicate the old "5-day" rule for the old disabled list.
 
8Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Sun, Jan 01, 2012, 19:02
So, Skineej should have to drop Perkins?
 
9Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Mon, Jan 02, 2012, 21:55
And the beat goes on, another broken bone

X-rays confirmed that Manu Ginobili has a broken fifth metatarsal bone in his left (shooting) hand and he will be out indefinitely.
 
10Skinneej
      ID: 26914279
      Mon, Jan 02, 2012, 22:34
Just saw this, so didn't know there was an issue. To my knowledge, we have always allowed IS when it was declared a player was going to be out for multiple games. Day to day obviously is when a player might be a game time decision or questionable to play. This was a slam dunk case in my mind since he was declared out for 2 or more, but I did not re-read the rules this season to see if there was something different due to compacted schedule.

I was goin to drop Biedrems for Perkins anyway before I saw the Bayless news, so I went ahead and dropped Biedrens since there is a question here. He has not been in my lineup for last several days regardless.
 
11SwinganaMiss
      ID: 771116
      Wed, Jan 04, 2012, 18:03
Zach Randolph has a torn ligament in his knee and will miss up to eight weeks.
Rotoworld
 
12Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Jan 06, 2012, 11:29
Chuck Hayes (shoulder) told beat writer James Ham that he would miss 2-3 weeks after Thursday's win over the Bucks. RotoWorld
 
13Florian
      ID: 549221910
      Fri, Jan 06, 2012, 15:08
Corey Maggette (hamstring) out 2-4 weeks

Corey Maggette (hamstring strain) is expected to miss 2-4 weeks.
We alluded to the fact that Maggette's injury might be serious, and an MRI revealed the strain. The Bobcats are due to get back Tyrus Thomas (ankle) on Friday, and that's going to be welcome news. Paul Silas will have to jiggle his rotation, but this means that D.J. Augustin and Boris Diaw will continue to see heavy minutes as the team's most productive players.
Source: Bobcats PR on Twitter
Jan 6 - 11:18 AM
 
14Florian
      ID: 549221910
      Fri, Jan 06, 2012, 15:09
Eric Gordon out 2-3 weeks to rest knee injury

Eric Gordon will miss the next 2-3 weeks in order to rest his injured knee.
Gordon just can't stay healthy. He had 22 points on Wednesday after sitting out four consecutive games, but that obviously wasn't enough time off. He's played in a declining number of regular season games over the first three years of his career, and now in his fourth season he'll once again be forced to the sidelines. Marco Belinelli will likely start in his place, but Jarrett Jack will continue to shoulder the offensive load in the backcourt. Owners of Gordon should stash him on the bench for the foreseeable future until we get an update on his condition.
Source: Sean Kelley on Twitter
Jan 6 - 10:29 AM
 
15wolfer
      ID: 91147515
      Fri, Jan 06, 2012, 16:32
Re 4

Since Thomas was out with no timetable at the beginning of the year, he could have been place on IS from day one?
 
16Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Jan 06, 2012, 20:39
yep
 
17wolfer
      ID: 28722812
      Fri, Jan 06, 2012, 21:24
That's what I thought. Cbssports reported him in a walking boot as late as the 23rd.
 
18Gescom
      Dude
      ID: 520461315
      Sat, Jan 07, 2012, 13:51
Tyrus Thomas (ankle) returned to action on January 6.
 
19wolfer
      ID: 28722812
      Sat, Jan 07, 2012, 14:09
so what do we do about Bogut?
 
20skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Sun, Jan 08, 2012, 01:15
Bayless has now missed 5 consecutive games...
 
21Gescom
      Dude
      ID: 520461315
      Sun, Jan 08, 2012, 09:28
Jason Kidd out at least a week (lower back).
 
22Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Jan 09, 2012, 18:00
[19] Bogut's issue was not injury related. Not applicable.
 
23wolfer
      ID: 50832319
      Mon, Jan 09, 2012, 20:08
It's also moot with Bogut as he was back with the team last night, but not in time for the game.
 
24Jaydog
      ID: 472331610
      Thu, Jan 12, 2012, 11:18
Michael Beasley to IS:

F Michael Beasley missed his third consecutive game because of a sprained right foot and likely will miss at least another week. He remains in a walking cast and still has swelling in that foot.
(Yahoo! Sports)
 
25Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Jan 12, 2012, 15:27
Well, this sucks.

Al Horford expected to miss 3-4 months.
 
26Gescom
      Dude
      ID: 520461315
      Sat, Jan 14, 2012, 09:54
Richard Hamilton has missed 5 consecutive games.
 
27Gescom
      Dude
      ID: 520461315
      Sun, Jan 15, 2012, 05:49
Jason Kidd returned to action on January 14th.
 
28skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Sun, Jan 15, 2012, 13:04
Stephen Curry has now missed 5 games
 
29Da Bomb
      Donor
      ID: 487112814
      Mon, Jan 16, 2012, 15:37
Marcus Camby has been ruled out for Monday with his sprained ankle, which can probably be classified as severe. He is hoping to return sometime in the next two weeks, meaning he should be on the bench until further notice.

(Rotoworld)
 
30Gescom
      Dude
      ID: 520461315
      Wed, Jan 18, 2012, 09:55
Richard Hamilton returned to action on January 17th.
 
31SwinganaMiss
      ID: 21154916
      Thu, Jan 19, 2012, 17:38
Is "out indefinitely" DWade eligible for IR?
 
32Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Jan 21, 2012, 10:04
Not that I can see. Wade has missed only two consecutive games, and looks to be a game-time decision tonight.
 
33Gescom
      Dude
      ID: 520461315
      Sat, Jan 21, 2012, 13:20
Andrea Bargnani has missed 5 consecutive games.
 
34Toral
      ID: 010321615
      Tue, Jan 24, 2012, 17:15
D. J. Augustin (toe) has been ruled out for the next four games by the Charlotte Bobcats.

Source: Rotoworld
 
35Skinneej
      ID: 26914279
      Tue, Jan 24, 2012, 17:28
Deng! Just as I was getting Curry back, Deng goes down with a wrist injury. He's out a "while" and his coach considers him "week to week" -Rotoworld
 
36SwinganaMiss
      ID: 771116
      Tue, Jan 24, 2012, 19:38
DWade is missing his 5th consecutive game tonight.
 
37Toral
      ID: 010321615
      Thu, Jan 26, 2012, 02:54
Spencer Hawes has missed 5 consecutive games.
 
38Gescom
      Dude
      ID: 520461315
      Fri, Jan 27, 2012, 02:26
Andrea Bargnani out indefinitely (Calf)
 
39Gescom
      Dude
      ID: 520461315
      Mon, Jan 30, 2012, 03:55
Jason Kidd out at least a week per Rotoworld
 
40reeb
      Dude
      ID: 561124720
      Mon, Jan 30, 2012, 19:58
Rondo has now missed 5 games and Blatche is out at least 3 weeks per Rotoworld.
 
41Pacers Rule
      Leader
      ID: 910311210
      Tue, Jan 31, 2012, 23:16
Ben Gordon has missed his 7th consecutive game.
 
42Pacers Rule
      Leader
      ID: 910311210
      Wed, Feb 01, 2012, 00:03
George Hill is out indefinitely with a bone chip in his ankle.
 
43Gescom
      Dude
      ID: 520461315
      Wed, Feb 01, 2012, 08:14
Marshon Brooks and Rip Hamilton joining Andrea Bargnani and Jason Kidd in the "Out indefinitely" club.
Note to self: for next shortened NBA season, ask Guru to extend IS to 5. Yikes.
 
44Great One
      ID: 36214199
      Thu, Feb 02, 2012, 23:10
Gerald Henderson (hamstring) is expected to miss 2-4 weeks. An MRI revealed a serious pull. With the tricky nature of hamstring injuries and the All-Star break looming in three weeks, it wouldn't be a surprise to see Henderson held out for the full four weeks.

Rotoworld
 
45jaydog
      ID: 1111161913
      Fri, Feb 03, 2012, 12:32
Placing Ben Gordon and George Hill on IS for reasons mentioned in posts 41 and 42.
 
46Toral
      ID: 010321615
      Sun, Feb 05, 2012, 00:18
Spencer Hawes returned to action Saturday.
 
47Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Feb 05, 2012, 17:05
Carl Landry has a Grade-2 MCL sprain, which has a typical recovery time of 2-4 weeks. RotoWorld
 
48Perm Dude
      ID: 3210201915
      Tue, Feb 07, 2012, 19:08
Chauncey Billups with a torn Achilles and out for the season (perhaps the end of his career). Source: LA Times & Rotowire.
 
49SwinganaMiss
      ID: 771116
      Tue, Feb 07, 2012, 20:03
Gallinari (ankle) hopes to return in four weeks, Nuggets.com reports.
 
50Toral
      ID: 010321615
      Wed, Feb 08, 2012, 13:36
Carmelo Anthony (groin) will be out 1-2 weeks, Howard Beck of the New York Times reports.
 
51Gescom
      Dude
      ID: 520461315
      Sat, Feb 11, 2012, 14:05
Kidd and Brooks returned to action on Feb 10.
Bargnani and Hamilton remain out indefinitely.
 
53Great One
      ID: 450312813
      Sat, Feb 11, 2012, 19:32
Anderson Varejao has been diagnosed with a non-displaced fracture in his right wrist and will be out indefinitely.
Varejao will be re-evaluated in a week. Brian Windhorst writes that Varejao is "likely to return this year," and we're speculating that he's out at least 4-6 weeks.
 
54Perm Dude
      ID: 3210201915
      Wed, Feb 15, 2012, 03:20
Timofey Mozgov, C, Den missed his sixth straight game (ankle) and is listed as day-to-day (nuggets.com)
 
55Toral
      ID: 010321615
      Wed, Feb 15, 2012, 21:25
D. J. Augustin returned to action Wednesday.

Spencer Hawes sat out his 5th straight game Wednesday.

(Hawes takes Augustin's place on my IR.)
 
56Da Bomb
      Donor
      ID: 487112814
      Wed, Feb 15, 2012, 21:49
Emeka Okafor (knee) will not play on Wednesday and could be out for a while according to coach Monty Williams. "From what I’ve heard it’s one of those weird deals," Williams said. "I just heard yesterday he’s not going to travel with us and he’ll stay at home."
 
57Florian
      ID: 549221910
      Fri, Feb 17, 2012, 09:45
From Rotoworld:

Nene (calf) will be in a walking boot for about four days and will be re-evaluated at that time.
By the sounds of this report, it would make no sense for the Nuggets to rush Nene back with the All Star break just a few days after that evaluation. Kosta Koufos looks like a strong add for the next week, and Chris Andersen and Kenneth Faried are worth consideration as spot-plays, too. Feb 16 - 9:50 PM
Source: Chris Dempsey on Twitter
 
58Toral
      ID: 010321615
      Mon, Feb 20, 2012, 20:58
Carmelo Anthony returned to action Monday.
 
59skinneej
      ID: 11192115
      Tue, Feb 21, 2012, 16:21
Am i missing who Leonard was picked up for?
 
60Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Tue, Feb 21, 2012, 18:01
Ginobili

Updating an earlier item, the San Antonio Express-News confirmed that Manu Ginobili (oblique) is still expected to miss "about two weeks."
There was an item posted at NBA.com that quoted Gregg Popovich as saying Ginobili would miss "several weeks," but this report posted late on Monday evening is much more reliable. Gary Neal stepped up on Monday with 14 points on 4-of-13 shooting (including three treys), but it's anybody's guess if he can keep it up going forward. Feb 21 - 5:15 AM
 
61Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Tue, Feb 21, 2012, 18:07
Oops, my bad, I think I forgot to drop someone for Lopez
 
62Great One
      ID: 340592712
      Thu, Mar 01, 2012, 09:13
Gerald Henderson returned last night so I dropped Shelden Williams to compensate. (Back to 1 open slot + Varejao).
 
63SwinganaMiss
      ID: 21154916
      Sun, Mar 11, 2012, 22:31
Kyle Lowry will miss the next 2-4 weeks with a bacterial infection.

Rotoworld
 
65Great One
      ID: 340592712
      Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 09:18
Dropped Martell Webster to get back to 1 open Injury Slot (after 2-1 trade).
 
66Toral
      ID: 010321615
      Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 06:04
Spencer Hawes returned to action Wednesday.
 
67SwinganaMiss
      ID: 21154916
      Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 18:30
Farmer dropped to make room for Z-Bo.
 
68SwinganaMiss
      ID: 21154916
      Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 00:06
Calderon has missed 5 straight games.
 
69skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 00:53
Curry has now missed 5 consecutive games
 
70SwinganaMiss
      ID: 21154916
      Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 22:47
Calderon is back. Gallinari back to the IR (out indefinitely w/ broken thumb).
 
71Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 09:47
Kevin Martin has missed 5 straight games
 
72Florian
      ID: 3811591713
      Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 14:37
Pekovic has missed last two games. Now projected to miss three more according to Rotoworld:

Nikola Pekovic - C - Timberwolves

Nikola Pekovic has been diagnosed with bone spurs in his right ankle, and he will not play on Sunday, Tuesday or Wednesday.
Darko Milicic may make a few place-holder starts at center, but Kevin Love and Derrick Williams are the guys who will do the heavy lifting in Pek's absence. It sounds like he's in a walking boot and has no clear return date, but owners should hang onto him while we await more information.

 
73Great One
      ID: 340592712
      Tue, Mar 27, 2012, 10:36
Rotoworld - Amare Stoudemire’s back injury doesn’t sound good and he’s heading to see a specialist to see if he’ll need surgery. The bottom line is that he’s out indefinitely and could easily be shut down for the season.
 
74Gescom
      Dude
      ID: 520461315
      Tue, Apr 03, 2012, 04:40
Rotoworld - Jason Kidd will reportedly miss the entire week with a right groin strain
 
75Gescom
      Dude
      ID: 520461315
      Thu, Apr 05, 2012, 17:17
Ridnour out at least one week per Rotoworld
 
76Toral
      ID: 010321615
      Fri, Apr 06, 2012, 08:24
Carlos Delfino (groin) has missed 5 straight games.
 
77Great One
      ID: 340592712
      Tue, Apr 10, 2012, 09:42
he's already missed 3, now this...

Kyrie Irving (shoulder) is "progressing," but he's expected to be held out of games this week.
"He still has four or five days before we consider thinking about bringing him on the basketball court," Byron Scott said. Make no mistake about it, the Cavs will be extra cautious with their prize rookie. Scott has previously admitted that Irving is a shutdown candidate, and it's possible Irving is sidelined for longer than the remainder of this coming week.
 
78deejay
      ID: 33571312
      Fri, Apr 13, 2012, 13:57
Kevin Love (concussion) is out indefinitely.
This really shouldn't come as a shock of any kind. Michael Beasley said after Love's injury that he could see Love's eyes shaking, and the fact that he spent the night in the hospital following the injury is an indication of how seriously the club is treating his condition. Despite being labeled as a "mild" concussion, Love will have to pass a series of baseline tests to return to the court. The rest of his season is in jeopardy, and Derrick Williams will start in Love's place while he's sidelined.
Source: Fox Sports North
Apr 13 - 7:48 AM
 
79SwinganaMiss
      ID: 771116
      Sun, Apr 15, 2012, 08:09
ROtoworld:
David Lee (groin) will be out indefinitely for the Warriors.
 
80Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Apr 24, 2012, 09:37
Trevor Ariza has missed more than 5 consecutive games.
 
81Florian
      ID: 549221910
      Wed, Apr 25, 2012, 10:51
Rotoworld:

Eric Gordon didn't play on Tuesday against the Warriors and has also been ruled out for the final game of the season due to his bad back.
Gordon has been a disaster all year and he's not finishing on a high note, obviously. Marco Belinelli will be a decent play again in the finale, as Gordon will finish up the season with just nine games played.