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Subject: RIHC 2012-13: Draft Rationales


  Posted by: Guru - [330592710] Sat, Oct 20, 2012, 16:14

This thread will be for managers in the RotoGuru Invitational Hoops Challenge to provide the rationale for each pick.

Here are the ground rules:
1. Only managers in this league should post here. If you want to provide feedback (either from other league managers, or from those not in the league), put it in the discussion thread. (Non-conforming discussion in this thread will be deleted.)

2. Try to keep the pick rationales in the same order as the draft. We'll attempt to keep this thread 2 rounds behind the actual draft. With the lag, most comments should not have an impact on the draft in progress. However, if there are aspects of your pick that you feel need to be kept under wraps, feel free to protect that information. In particular, please avoid mentioning the names of any players who are still undrafted at that time of the post.

Please post your (2 round lagged) comments at the time you make your pick. For example, you should post your comments for your round 1 pick when you make your round 3 selection. If you are not ready to post at that time, then create a "placeholder" so that the next person is able to go ahead in sequence. When your post is ready, simply post it in the draft discussion thread and a moderator can copy it over.

If possible, please draft your rationale at the time your are making that pick. Not only does that allow you to remember your thoughts "in the moment", but it also makes it simple to copy and paste it when it is due, avoiding unnecessary delays and/or placeholders.

If your rationale is due and intervening placeholders have not been inserted, please insert them before posting your rationale. Simply post something like:
for Guru
2.10 Robert Pack, PG, Team

This makes it easy for me (or any moderator) to splice the eventual rationale in the proper place.

3. If you are providing rationales after a placeholder has been inserted, then post it in the draft discussion thread, and someone will copy it over.

4. Once the draft is over, each manager is also encouraged to provide a general draft recap, at which time you can discuss your overall strategy, mention any undisclosed factors, comment on what worked out well and what didn't, etc.

The general format should be:
1.01 Kevin Durant, SF, OKC
Several sentences of rationale.

In addition, along with your first player rationale, please comment on your rationale for your selection of draft order.
 
1 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 21, 2012, 13:16
for Jasonprof
1.01 Kevin Durant, SF, OKC
When I got the first position for choice draft order at first I hesitated because Durant and James was my absolutely favorite players and I didn't feel any difference between them.

After then I chose Durant because of his higher FT%, and because last year OKC had a lot of very hard games, so the team needed him until the end of the games.

 
2 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 21, 2012, 13:16
for twolves
1.02 LeBron James, SF, Mia
I had 3rd pick and had planned to move back to 4th(or even 5th) to get Love but Paul or Westbrook would have been okay. When Deejay took third, I could not resist moving up to #2.

I figured I would get Lebron since Jasonprof had first pick for second year in a row and picked Durant last year and won our AAA league. I think if Lebron would shoot more 3s he might get a bit closer to Durant. I think Lebron does not have much upside from past years but still is #2 because contributes in all categories.

 
3 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 21, 2012, 13:17
for deejay
1.03 Russell Westbrook, PG, OKC
I was going to get Paul with this pick, but then I got a bit annoyed by his thumb injury, and figured Paul while great, he's somewhat injury prone, so opted for Westbrook instead, this might bite me in the ass, but so far I don't regret my choice, that might change during the season however.
 
4 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 21, 2012, 13:17
for T-man
Pick #4:Pick #4: With Kevin Love out, the top 4 picks are in a different class than the rest of the league. Guaranteed to get one of the 4 elite players, pick #4 is arguably the best pick in the draft. Personally I would have preferred #1 or #2 to land Durant or James, but there is no way I would have moved down and passed on the chance to land Westbrook or Paul.

1.04 Chris Paul, PG, LAC
I was pleasantly surprised that Paul wasn’t taken at #3. I fully expected to be picking Westbrook here. I would be happy with either player, but as long as Paul has no setbacks with his wrist, he should once again lead the league in steals and contribute solidly in 6 categories. Very nice player to build my team around.

 
5 youngroman
for Florian
I took the highest remaining available draft slot (5th overall). I figured LeBron and Durant would go 1st and 2nd. I would have been happy with any of Paul, Love or Westbrook at the 5th spot. Unfortunately Love got hurt which led to me drafting:

1.05 Deron Williams, PG, BKN
Deron has an improved team this year. Hopefully that will translate into 20 ppg, 10 assist and improved FG% compared to the last few years. It should provide incentive for him to play through minor injuries near the end of the season.

 
6 youngroman
for Addicted
1.06 Dwyane Wade, SG, MIA
Wade was my second choice.
I had another player in mind, until Love went down.
So I pretty much decided that I'd take the injury risk and move on. He looked good on Friday, but it's a long season.

-- Addicted--
 
7youngroman
      ID: 56523304
      Sun, Oct 21, 2012, 14:30
#7 pick
I don't like being at the end of a draft. there are 2 tiers in hoops: the 1st four (James, Durant, Love, Paul) and a 2nd tier of another 4 or 5 players (Westbrook, Deron, Wade, Smith, Kobe). having the 7th selection I pretty much knew that I will end up having the 7th pick and this turned true. I cold have taken #8 but wanted to be safe. as it turned out this was a good selection because of the injury of Love. And even Dirk, usually a 1st rounder, is now out too.

1.07 Josh Smith, PF, ATL
with the injury of Love there was one guy less available here. I hoped for Josh Smith when I took the 7th draft pick and hoped that he would be still available. luckily he was.
Josh Smith can do everything but shoot free throws. I don't know why because he is even able to hit a three now and then. thankfully the amount of FTs he gets is not as high as those of Dwight Howard and DeMarcus Cousins who have a similar or worse FT%. if you look at all other 7 stats you see a fine player who is above average in all of them. This makes him a solid core for my team.
 
8Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 21, 2012, 15:02
for Dave R
1.08 Kyrie Irving PG Cle
I really wanted Josh Smith with this pick, and think he might have made it to me if Love hadn't broke his hand. I'm not really sure Kyrie deserved to be drafted this high, gave some consideration to Cousins, but decided with the top PG's having already been drafted I'd go with Irving.

Kyrie had an amazing rookie season averaging 18.5 ppg, 5.4 assists, 3.7 RB's, 1.4 threes, over a steal a game, all while providing terrific %'s, particularly from the stripe. Had he not ended up injured for the end of the year, his stats may have even been better.

While the supporting cast in Cleveland has somewhat improved, Kyrie is still by far the best player on a poor team, which means something for fantasy players. I'm expecting him to take a big step forward this year.
 
9Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 21, 2012, 15:04
Pick #9: I wish I had a master strategy. But after the top several picks, rankings seem to be all over the place, and I have no particular target in mind that I’m hoping will slip to #9. It’s just the earliest spot available, and the closest to the middle of the draft. Historically, it’s also been one of the luckiest slots to draft from in this league, winning the league twice and finishing in the top 4 six times.

1.09 Demarcus Cousins, PF/C, Sac
My short list heading into this pick was Irving, Josh Smith, and Cousins. Cousins may be a bit of a stretch here, but I’m looking for a big year from Cousins, who is just 22. Good scorer and rebounder, decent blocks, excellent steals for a big man, and OK (but not great) blocks. Percentages won’t hurt me.

Biggest risk is his propensity to foul – both personal and technical – which could cost minutes (or even games). FG% is not a high as you’d like for a big, although I’m looking for something around 47% this year.

The 9th pick may be a tad early for him, but I really didn’t think he’d still be available at pick #16, and there weren’t any other players on the board that I liked better. Since I missed on Irving, I’ll probably go for a guard in round 2.
 
11 Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Sun, Oct 21, 2012, 19:22
For SwinganaMiss
Pick 10: Not many choices left. Took the first available for no definitive reason.

1.10 Al Jefferson, PF/C, Uta
Expected to get what was left between Aldridge, Jefferson, and Irving with this slot. I preferred one of the two big guys. I didn't expect to have to choose, but Guru surprised me with his first selection. Time will tell if the choice was good/bad or a wash. This will be the first year of my four playing Hoops in which I don't have Wade. I considered that he might even make it to me here, but it didn't happen either.

 
12 Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Sun, Oct 21, 2012, 19:25
For mailedfoot
1.11 LaMarcus Aldridge, PF/C, Por
Wanted a big man who would not hurt me in any categories. Aldridge seems to fit the bill and at 27, should be in his prime. Would like to see more blocks from him, but will worry about that later. Also has F-C position status, so gives me a little flexibility there.
 
13Swish City
      Dude
      ID: 0931275
      Sun, Oct 21, 2012, 19:31
Pick #12: As soon as i found out i was near the end of draft-order-draft, i made the conscious decision that i would draft on the turn if the option to do so was still around. I'm getting married in less than a week, so being able to pick twice in succession helps from a time perspective. That, and i don't recall ever having drafted on the turn before in RIHC. So, something different, as well.

1.12 Kobe Bryant, SG, LAL
I'm a bit perplexed by some of the articles out there that suggest that Kobe is going to drop off a cliff. Kobe is the leader of that Lakers squad, and even with all the new faces, i just can't see too much to worry about. You could argue he might lose a few shots, but the efficiency should rise. I expect last year's numbers again. And that is a great foundation to start with, as far as i'm concerned.

2.01 Stephen Curry, PG, GSW
Oh boy. Talk about sticking your neck out. I was absolutely torn between Curry and Andrew Bynum. Both are serious injury risks, especially at this slot. In the end, i just could not ignore Steph's per game production. Of course, the ankles are a huge concern. I feel like this is already the key pick in my entire draft. If he can play 75 games, there's almost no way he doesn't return 1st round value.
 
14 Guru
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      Sun, Oct 21, 2012, 20:45
for mailedfoot
2.02 Ty Lawson, PG, Den
Wanted a point guard here, and Lawson or Jennings seemed to be the choices. Lawson shot excellent percentages last year, provides good help in all the guard categories, and could be primed to join the elite point guards this year. I like him a little more than Jennings so he is the pick.
 
15 Guru
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      Sun, Oct 21, 2012, 20:47
for Swinganamiss
2.03 Andrew Bynum, C, Phi
Bynum returns from my team last year. He was quite the over achiever on last years team. I think he can at least achieve this second round value if he can get and stay relatively healthy. He made it through last year without any significant injury, so hopefully he can do it again this year. Not off to the greatest start, but hopefully he's ready to go for the season.

I had offered to trade down in this round thinking I could get either Bynum or Love later in the round (and have a shot at Jennings or Rondo in the third), but had no takers. In the end, Bynum is capable of 1st round value if he can stay on the court, so I'll take the risk and look for Gs later.

 
16Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 21, 2012, 20:48
2.04 Brandon Jennings, PG, Mil
After getting a big in the first round, I preferred to get a PG in round two. My two leading choices were Ty Lawson and Jennings. When Curry and Lawson went in the first two picks of this round, I wasn’t sure Jennings would survive the third pick. But he did.

Jennings is a returnee from my team last year (although drafted in the 5th round last year). The ESPN player rater ranks him 10th overall for last season. He provides strength in all guard-dominated cats. I have hope for improvement in FG%, as he’s added roughly 2% per year in each of the last two seasons, (37%, 39%, 41.8%). Ranked 16th last year in scoring. Ranked 12th in treys and also in steals. At just age 23, there is still potential for improvement.

I thought about taking Love here, but deferred for several reasons – 1) I wanted a PG, 2) Love’s injury situation brings uncertainty, and 3) Love provides stats that I tend not to overpay for anyway (i.e., if he wasn’t injured, he'd likely be drafted well before I’d take him.) Carmelo Anthony was another consideration – ditto on item 3. I even strongly considered Marc Gasol at this point. Fortunately, Jennings was still available, so I never had to make that choice.
 
17Guru
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      Sun, Oct 21, 2012, 20:49
for Dave R
2.05 Kevin Love F/C Min
Yeah, I know he's hurt, but someone would take him sooner or later. Probably sooner.

I can rationalize it in a number of ways. Coming back from a broken hand is easier than having suffered a knee or ankle injury. Latest word was he may miss as few as 10 games. Rotoworld had him projected for 73 games, and still ranked him 4th, soooo, assuming he misses no other games, I think I'm getting an excellent bargain in round 2. Make sense? We'll see.

He probably won't just miss the games from this injury based on his past history, but I'll risk it. Love does everything well, but block shots, and there are plenty of those left on the board. Scorching the nets for 26 ppg and averaging over 13 RB's last year is just a start. Love also hit over 100 3's and is an excellent FT shooter for a big man. I'm putting a lot of stock in Love coming back soon, and hopefully staying healthy for the rest of the year.
 
18youngroman
      ID: 56523304
      Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 07:29
2.06 Carmelo Anthony, SF, NYK
most of the available players worth a pick here had a poor FT%: Griffin, Rondo, Howard, Monroe. I could not convince myself to pick any of them because of the big hole I would have to overcome there. I thought a bit about Kevin Love but decided to wait 1 more round. turned out that he was picked just in front of me so I could have avoided to make that decision.
In the end I went with Carmelo. I hope he takes a better shot selection this year, if not he is able to kill my FG%. On the other hand he shoots a lot of free throws which more than makes up the deficit of Josh Smith.
 
19 Guru
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      Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 10:19
for Addicted
2.07 Pau Gasol, PF, LAL
I was hoping a guard would fall here, but they didn't.
I was also seriously thinking if Love fell to me, I'd take the chance (good pick Sanfordors).
That left me with 3 choices, Ibaka, Gay and Gasol. I had Ibaka and Gay last year both did well for me. Gasol's outlook is dependent on Howard, but I think he'll do fine.
 
20 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 10:19
for Florian
2.08 James Harden, SF, OKC
I was really hoping that Pau Gasol would still be available at this spot, but he was drafted with the previous pick. I considered Millsap, Marc Gasol, Monroe, Dragic and Horford before deciding on Harden. I'm expecting Harden will at least match last year's numbers. As he is only 23 I am hoping for a small improvement in his overall numbers and similar percentages.
 
21Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 10:20
for T-man
2.09 Dwight Howard, C, LAL
I stewed about this one for a while. In my mind there were three concerns.
One, at the time of my pick he had not yet played since his back surgery 6 months ago.
Two, I’m not sure how the Lakers will use him alongside Pau Gasol. Will he get the touches with so much talent around him? Howard does most of his damage in post up situations and Mike Brown has shown a tendency to use Kobe on isolations without going through the bigs in the paint. It’ll be interesting to see how Howard fits in, and I’m not sure what that does to his numbers.
Three, how to stomach his FT%? For someone that goes to the line as much as he does, that miserable FT% can single handedly kill that category.
At the end of the day, I decided that his potential to dominate FG%, Reb, and blocks and contribute solidly in FG% and steals was just too much to pass up at this point in the draft.
Update: Based on his preseason debut Sunday night, I feel a lot better about concerns one and two, not so much about three…
 
22 Guru
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      Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 13:55
for Deejay
2.10 Marc Gasol, C, Mem
I was aiming for a big here, since I took a PG with my first pick, at one point I was hoping Pau Gasol would drop to me, but I had to settle for his brother. Marc's percentages are great, and he can score some. The Blocks(a category I tend to neglect) are a plus.
 
23Guru
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      Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 13:56
for twolves
2:11 Serge Ibaka, C, OKC
Debated PG or premier shot blocker. Went with shot blocker Ibaka who I thought might not be there in early round 3. If he can play a few more minutes and get few extra rebounds it would be a bonus.
 
24 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 13:58
for Jasonprof
2.12 Goran Dragic, PG, Pho
It started a competition for PG-s very early and I decided getting one from the ten PG-s. Dragic will have a strong season as the primary point guard of the team. Dragic hadgood FG% with 1.0 3PTS and 5.3 AST in average 25 minutes last year. I hope these numbers will be up this year.

3.01 Al Horford, C, Atl
In the third round I wanted a center. It could be a critical position when the managers start picking up centers and you have to wait a lot because your first draft position. Horford is one of my favorite centers who doesn't throw threes but he is very good in all other categories. I hope he will avoid injuries this year.

 
25 youngroman
for twolves
3.02 Rudy Gay, SF, MEM
This was tough pick as I had my eye on Dragic but he got taken on the turn. Gay seemed like a good overall pick at this point without reaching too far and he contributes in most categories.
 
26 youngroman
for deejay
3.03 Paul Millsap, PF, UTA
I had Gay first on my list with this pick, but he went the pick right before me, not the first time that happens ;)
Took a long look at Batum right after that, but Millsap and his steals were hard to say no to...
 
27 youngroman
for T-man
3.04 Paul George, SF, IND
This might be a bit of a reach at this point in the draft, but I didn’t think he would be there at pick 4.09. George improved a great deal in his sophomore season and is capable of contributing in all eight categories. I’m banking on him getting more minutes and improving his scoring. Love his steals and FT%. With players like George and Paul in my lineup, I may not have to punt FT% despite Howard!
 
28 youngroman
for Florian
3.05 Greg Monroe, C, DET
I was happy to get Monroe with this pick. I didn't really consider anyone else. He is young and still improving. I'm hoping for an incremental improvement over last year's number with excellent percentages.
 
29 youngroman
for Addicted
3.06 Mike Conley, PG, MEM
It's the third round and I don't have a PG.
Choices were Nash, Conley and Rondo.
I like Nash, but I already have Gasol, so if LAL blows out some team, they'll rest the starters.
Rondo is a 3D threat, but FT and 3s are lacking.
Conley seemed like a safe bet. I looked on Yahoo and saw that he finished 14th last year.
 
30youngroman
      ID: 56523304
      Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 15:22
3.07 Steve Nash, PG, LAL
I couldn't pass on an aging Steve Nash here. I remember that I often struggle with assists in such leagues because you rarely find them on waivers. Steve Nash is the 1st player that solves that problem for me. I am uncertain how many shots he will get with that many weapons around. but the less he scores himself the more he dishes out assists to the others. he does not kill my FG% as many other PGs would do but this comes also at the cost of his relatively low steals. I better address this problem sooner than later.
 
31 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 17:43
for Dave R
3.08 Rajon Rondo, PG, Bos
I had a lengthy queue set up for this pick as I was at the Giants/Redskins game, and saw Millsap, George, Monroe and Conley plucked ahead of me. Left were Rondo and Lee.

I decided on another PG, and I've never had Rondo in this format. There are several holes in his game from what you'd expect from your typical PG, due to his lack of 3's and poor FG%, But those assists and steals are great. While I don't expect this is the year he starts draining 3's, or hits 90% from the stripe, I think back to the playoff last year where he nearly carried the Celtics on his back and nearly upset Miami. Game 1 for example, 44 points, 8 boards and 10 assists.

I don't expect lines like that, but I think 12 points, 12 assists, 5 RB's and 2 steals are within reach.

 
32Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 17:44
3.09 Anthony Davis, PF, Nor
No guts, no glory. Could turn out to be first-round material. Could turn out to be 6th round material. Regardless, he should get the playing time – so he’ll make or break his value on the court and not on the bench – barring injury.

I’m not even going to posit a stat line for him. We’ll just see how it pans out. I do expect decent blocks, and decent shooting percentages, which will mean that his other stats don’t need to be monstrous to provide overall value.

I considered going with a safer choice like David Lee, but what fun is that? And I also had a few PG options in my queue, but decided to go big here.
 
33 Guru
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      Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 20:32
for Swinganamiss
3.10 Monta Ellis, SG, Mil
I spent quite a bit of late Sunday morning and early afternoon trying to trade up in the third round, targeting Rondo. I really thought he was dropping too far. I had two bigs at that point, and needed a good guard.
Settled for Ellis here after not only Rondo but Nash and Conley also went by. Ellis should be a good scorer, quality in ST, and serviceable in AST also.
 
34 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 20:36
for mailedfoot
3.11 David Lee, PF, GS
Decided to go with Lee here as he is a well rounded big man who shoots the ball well. Projected for 19 pts, 10 boards, 3 assists, and 1 steal per game. I was hoping Anthony Davis might be available but that was not to be. Also considered Griffin but ultimately felt Lee was a much safer pick.
 
35 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 20:37
for Swish
3.12 Kyle Lowry, PG, TorI really wanted another quality PG here having selected Curry already, so it was disheartening to see a mini-PG run just before my picks. This is the problem with drafting on the ends i guess. Anyway, i'm bullish about Lowry - i don't expect him to be seriously challenged by the incumbant Tor PGs, and let's not forget, before his bacterial infection, he was posting 1st round value last season. He's also been awesome in preseason. Good enough for me!

4.01 Nicolas Batum, SF, Por
I really, really wanted to select Anthony Davis here, but Guru nabbed him. Logic dictates that i need a big here, but i didn't see anyone that i really wanted that i thought was not a reach. So i plumped for Batum, who's likely to be in the elite 1-1- 1 club this season, and has no legitimate backup in Portland. I seriously think he has a shot at 1st or 2nd round value if he can come close to his Febuary numbers of last season. At worst, i doubt very much he'll not be worth what i'm paying here.

 
36 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 20:38
for mailedfoot
4.02 Paul Pierce, SF, Bos
Pierce is getting a little long in the tooth but he figures to be the go to guy for the Celtics again. I expect him to contribute something in all categories except blocks. At this point I had two bigs and a PG so I decided to start filling out the line up; I believe Pierce is solid as a 4th round SF.
 
37 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 20:38
for Swinganamiss
4.03 Andre Iguodala, SG, Den
I like Iguodola, similar to Ellis, to put up serviceable AST from the SG position. So the combo of the two can keep me out of the cellar in that category. He can also play both G and F in a pinch, depending on what else happens. I also thought about Joe Johnson and Parker.
 
38Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 20:39
4.04 Jrue Holiday, PG, Phi
I had hoped to get a PG here, and Holiday is the best available. That said, if Iggy had survived just one more pick, I’d probably have taken him instead.

Holiday is only 22, but enters his fourth season. Last season was a little disappointing, so I’m hoping for some modest improvement. Should get more playing time and assist opportunities with Iguodala and another guard gone. Also has Bynum to pass to.

Tony Parker is the next best PG on my list, and actually ranked a little better than Holiday last year on the ESPN player rater. But Parker is 30, and I’m going with the youthful upside of Holiday.
 
39Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 22, 2012, 21:32
for Dave R
4.05 Martin Gortat, C, Pho
My first big was Love, who's out for a while so I thought it was time to shop at the big and tall store. I had Gortat last year, and while not flashy he's pretty reliable And durable.

Nothing sexy here, just a solid player. I expect similar stats as last year, somewhere around 16 ppg, 11 Rb's, and 1.5 blocks, and nearly 1 steal per game. I just hope he doesn't miss Nash to much.
 
40youngroman
      ID: 56523304
      Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 02:53
4.06 Tony Parker, PG, SAS
Tony Parker, when healthy, is a very good point guard. he does not shoot a lot of threes, but this is only helping his FG% which is 2nd among PG starters with Nash being top and also on my team. having 2 PGs with a good FG% gives me the option to pick players with a slightly worse FG% in the next few rounds.
There is no worry about his age. he is only 30 which is much young than the 38 years of Steve Nash.
 
41 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 10:30
for Addicted
4.07 Brook Lopez, C, Bkn
I was hoping Anthony Davis would drop to me (What was I thinking?). I figured it was time to look for a center. It was Hibbert vs Lopez. Lopez has been playing well during the preseason, Hopefully it's a sign of things to come.
 
42 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 10:31
for Florian
4.08 Kevin Garnett, C, Bos
Garnett has provided top 20 roto value for the last two years. His numbers as a center were significantly better than his numbers as a PF last year and this year he will be playing center the entire season (barring injury). His numbers in his 36 starts at center last year were 16.8 ppg, 8.7 boards, 3.2 assists, 1.1 steals, 1.2 blocks, 50.7 FG% and 87% FT%. If he misses no more than 12 games and manages similar averages this year I will be thrilled with this pick.
I considered Bosh, Granger, Joe Johnson and Nowitzki with this pick.
 
43Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 10:32
for T-man
4.09 Joe Johnson, SG, BKN
Fits right in with the rest of my picks. Great scoring and can light it up from downtown, doing it with a decent overall FG%. Chips in with assists and steals, but most importantly will give me another player with great FT% to help offset Dwight Howard. I’m thinking this will be a recurring theme throughout this draft…
 
44 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 10:32
for deejay
4.10 Wesley Matthews, SF, Por
My 4th round list was as follow: Batum/JJohnson/Holiday/Matthews/Teague. Batum went quickly, Holiday too, at one point I was convinced JJohnson would drop to me, but again he went one pick earlier.
So debated a while between Matthews(ranked 27th via Yahoo) and Teague. I ended up going for Matthews in the hopes Teague would drop to me in the next round, but he didn't.
Matthews FG% aint great, but I figured I needed 3's since my other Guard(Westbrook) dont drop a whole lot of them. With some improvement, he could turn out to be a valuable pick. Only time will tell...
 
45Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 10:33
for twolves
4.11 Roy Hibbert, C, IND
Debated here whether to take my higher ranked player or my need which was a PG or SG. Hibbert, I think is on the rise yet and will contribute more points and rebounds beside his good block totals this year as he is continuing to learn to stay out of foul trouble. The other one I wanted was Klay Thompson who got took on the turn unfortunately. I did not see any point other than possibly Lillard that I wanted.
 
46 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 10:34
for Jasonprof
4.12 Ersan Ilyasova, PF, Mil
I expected from Ilyasova a breakout year, he has extremely good per minute stats with high percentages in all categories. It's risky a bit, because the starting positions are in the air in Milwaukee, but I hope Skiles will not change his mind, and Ersan will be with the first team.

5.01 Klay Thompson, SG, GS
The starting five of my team is complete! I think this is not a bad start: Dragic, Thompson, Horford, Ilyasova, Durant.

I needed an SG, with a lot of threes and I decided picking up Thompson. He was getting been a starter last year from the middle of March and he produced fantastic performances. Yes, I know the second year could be critical, but I am sure Thompson will be better and better this year.

 
47Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 10:35
for twolves
5.02 Eric Gordon, SG, NO
After all the big men, I need a guard. I debated here about Gordon which may have been a stretch because of his injury history. Not playing in the preseason is bothersome but hard to read if precautionary or really bad. However, if healthy enough to play can contribute points, 3s and hoping some assists. When healthy he is one of top SG out there. For PG looked at Lillard and debated stashing Wall but would prefer healthy and playing PG.
 
48 Florian
      ID: 07382712
      Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 13:51
for deejay

5.03 Bosh, Chris, C, Mia
I decided to wait on Teague (that didn't turn out well) and get me my 2nd Center... Bosh aint spectacular, but his %'s are good and he scores a bunch of points too. He doesn't block, but that is fine, and I will take care of that at a later moment.
 
49 Florian
      ID: 07382712
      Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 13:52
for T-man

5.04 Noah, Joakim, C, Chi
I was looking for my second center here since the bigs were getting kind of scarce. I liked my run on SG’s but was anxious to put someone on my roster that can help Dwight out with boards and blocks. Noah fit the bill nicely, and his percentages are right in line with what I was looking for. I pretty much saw this as a no brainer.
 
50Florian
      ID: 07382712
      Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 13:52
5.05 Dirk Nowitzki, PF, Dal

I never thought Dirk would still be available in the 5th round (despite his recent surgery). He is one of my favourite players and has seldom missed any games in his career. With recent reports that he may be back as soon as 3 weeks rather than in 6 weeks as originally reported I couldn't resist the chance to pick him. If he returns to form and manages to play more than 60 games I will be very happy with this pick. If he manages to play 70 this will be a steal.
I briefly consider Granger with this pick, but I wouldn't be surprised if he misses more games this year than Dirk.
 
51 youngroman
for Addicted
5.06 Danny Granger, SF, IND
Granger was dropping, and even though I had heard about the knee injury, I had saw that we was going to play on Tuesday. I originally had Gallinari as my first choice. Dooh!!!
 
52youngroman
      ID: 56523304
      Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 14:13
5.07 Tyson Chandler, C, NYK
with 2 picks to go my queue was Dirk + Granger. guess what? they go in that order and I had to go through the players that I did not like compared to those 2:
- Blake Griffin: I don't want to punt FT%. I'll let the Dwight Howard owner do this.
- Jeff Teague: I already have enough guards providing assists. may be interesting in the next round because of his steals.
- Jermey Lin: unsure what he can and will do in his 1st full season. I bet he won't be as good as during his Linsanity stint in NY.
- Amare' Stoudemire: knee injury, will miss the 1st few weeks. probably interesting in 2 rounds.
- Ryan Anderson: acceptable FG% for the amount of 3s he is taking. good rebounding numbers. low in blocks, steals and assists. new team could hurt early production
- Tyson Chandler: very good FG% where I am already top. low FT% where I am already trailing. his rebounds and blocks would be nice though.

In the end I took Chandler over Anderson. he is also expanding my FT issues but not like Blake Griffin would do. and the blocks compared to Griffin are better too. I just hope that I can turn around my FT% and 3-pt categories with my next few picks.
 
53Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 14:34
for Dave R
5.08 Blake Griffin, PF, LAC
Blake is another player I've never owned in this format, and I welcome him to team Sanfordors. I hadn't planned on grabbing him at this point, as he's another player with some holes in his game. He doesn't block many shots for a big man, and his FT% is putrid.

One of the roto sites says let someone else overpay for him and draft him in the first or second round, if he falls to round four, you got an excellent pick. So getting him in round 5 is even better.

I expect 20+ ppg, 11 RB's, half a block and steal, and excellent FG% to go along with the putrid FT%
 
54Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 14:38
5.09 Marcus Thornton, SG, Sac
Heading into this pick, the top name on my list was Tyson Chandler. And now I read that youngroman only “settled” for him after losing his top options. So close, and yet…

Next on my list was Thornton. Continuing my youth movement, Thornton (25) enters his 4th season. A scorer, he led the Kings in points last year (18.7/g), draining more than a pair of treys per game. Good steals (1.4/g), strong FT%, acceptable FG% considering the 3-point potential.

Lillard, Faried, and Ryan Anderson were also on my radar, and I hoped that one of them would survive to my next pick. But it didn’t take long before I had to start working on plan B.
 
55 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 21:11
for Swinganamiss
5.10 Damian Lillard, PG, Por
Had about half a dozen people on my list here. Wasn't sure which would be around for my next pick. Opted for Lillard, as I keep hearing good things about him and he's a starting PG (which I don't really have any of yet).
 
56 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 21:12
for mailedfoot
5.11 Kenneth Faried, PF, Den
Faried is set to take on a starter's role for Denver so I am hoping for him to break out this season. He should contribute nicely in the hustle and defensive stats in addition to averaging close to a double - double in points and rebounds.
 
57 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 21:13
for Swish
5.12 Nikola Pekovic, C, Min
Another heartbreaking run up to this pick. I probably would have taken Dirk, Griffin, Lillard or Faried if they had made it to me. But overall, i'm happy with Pek. He doesn't do much to address my block deficiences, but i think he should be fantastic in Love's abscense, and provides robust %s, boards. I also think he could be close to 20 PPG whilst Love is out.

6.01 Ryan Anderson, C, NO
C eligibility was a factor for me here. I like the fact i got a C eligble without reaching. Truthfully, i don't think his numbers from last year are repeatable, but if Eric Gordon is hobbled all year, you just never know. And, he was just the highest player in my rankings left, by far. Tonnes of 3s, good rebounding, and C position filled. Tick!

 
58 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 21:13
for mailedfoot
6.02 John Wall, PG, Was
Was undecided who to take with this pick and finally decided to roll the dice with Wall. I wanted another guard but wasn't thrilled with my options. With his injury situation, he could be a wasted pick. But if he comes back healthy and productive, I will have two top flight point guards.
 
59 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 21:14
for Swinganamiss
6.03 Amare Stoudemire, PF, NYK
Amare didn't play well last year, he's having knee problems (hopefully short term, but the news is getting worse), but I am still hoping he can provide mid-round value. I would have preferred Faried. I guess maybe I should've gone with Faried at 5.10 instead.
 
60Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 21:14
6.04 DaniloGallinari, SF, Den
I thought about him last round, but settled on Marcus Thornton instead. For this pick, then I was hoping to land one of Lillard, Faried, or Ryan Anderson. So much for that.

Gallinari returns from a variety of injuries, and joins a lineup with Iguodala and without Afflalo and Harrington. He should still have plenty of scoring opportunities & lots of 3s, while garnering a smattering of other stats. Hopefully he can stay healthy.
 
61Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 23, 2012, 21:15
for Dave R
6.05 Tyreke Evans, SG/SF, Sac
What a difference a few years makes, it was just three years ago Tyreke took the NBA by storm, averaging 20 ppg, over 5 RB's and Assists and 1.5 steals on his way to Rookie of the year. What happened? I think Evans was out of position at PG, and now will be playing SG or SF, and I love that flexibility. Or maybe lofty expectations. Even in a down year Tyreke scored at a clip of 16.5 ppg and over 4 RB's and assist 1.5 steals.

Arguably those stats produced 4th round value, and here is falling to me in round 6. Was it just those lofty expectations that let him slip so far. I hope so. Rumors have it is that he's in terrific shape, and become somehwat of a gym rat. Maybe that translates into bigger and better things.
 
62youngroman
      ID: 56523304
      Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 04:22
6.06 Jeff Teague, PG, ATL
I am always targeting other players and somehow I end up with a PG instead. Ryan Anderson would have been my top choice here, but he was gone as soon as I went asleep. I had Teague as the 2nd player in my queue because I believe he has too much value at this point. I guess with 3 of the top PGs I don't need to look too closely for assists again. Teague and his steals also make up the steals that Nash and Parker aren't getting. he even gets a healthly amount of blocks for a PG, if only he could score a few more 3s. I have dug myself a huge hole in that stat and I am still searching for the players to full that.

it also seems that I forced the managers after this pick to go for PGs because the next 5 were from that position.
 
63 Florian
      ID: 07382712
      Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 08:54
for Addicted

6.07 Ricky Rubio, PG, Min
I'm still kicking myself for taking Rubio this early. I knew going in that I would target him later in the draft. Hoping that he'll return to form by January. The only thing I don't like about Rubio's game is his FG%. Other than that I'm happy with the pick.
 
64Florian
      ID: 07382712
      Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 08:56
6.08 Jeremy Lin, PG, Hou

I was going to take Ginobili with this pick as he has been great on my team in past years. I even had his name typed in, but couldn't make the pick. I ended up taking Lin instead. Houston got rid of two PGs,who were both taken much earlier in the draft, to sign Lin, so it seems likely that he will get all the minutes he can handle. As a starter last year averaged 18.2 ppg, 7.7 assists, 3.7 boards, 2.0 steals, 1.0 3PTM and 4.7 TO with reasonable percentages for a PG. Fortunately those turnovers won't hurt me in this league. Assuming his knee has healed and he manages to put up numbers anywhere close to those in Houston he will have top 20 value.
 
65 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 10:50
for T-man
6.09 Isaiah Thomas, PG, Sac
After landing my second center, my plan was to bolster my assists while there were some capable point guards on the board. I targeted Lillard and Lin shortly after my fifth round pick. Lillard got scooped up way earlier than I thought (and hoped) he would, and Lin was taken the pick before mine. I love Isaiah Thomas’ game, and he was a nice find for me in free agency last year. I don’t care for the crowded guard situation in Sacramento, particularly since he may not even be named the starter at the beginning of the season. But I’m hoping that talent prevails and that he gets his minutes and numbers. We’re at the point in the draft where it’s tough to find a player with no question marks at all, so I’m ok with Thomas here.
 
66 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 10:51
for deejay
6.10 Raymond Felton, PG, NYK
With the PG's pool running dry, and with Teague gone(who I really wanted here), I decided to take Felton, I remember 2y ago, he did great in NYK, and I'm convinced he'll have a much better year than last year.
 
67 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 10:51
for twolves
6.11 Mo Williams, PG, Utah
Based on the picks prior to mine, I did not do a very good job of concealing I might want a point guard. Mo Williams seemed like the best there with some upside from last year as locked in as starter. I had dreamed Lillard or Teague might fall to me but had Williams as likely to be here. He also can hit 3s with Utah dominant front court and hopefully can increase his assist totals. There some good big men but seemed I really needed a guard.
 
68 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 14:52
for Jasonprof
6.12 Andrea Bargnani, C, Tor
7.01 Gerald Wallace, SF, Bkn

This was the round when I left behind me the obligations, and I could start with clean slate. I wanted really before D. Lillard, but he was gone when I turn on picking. So I looked around who are the best available players in the market.

I think Bargnani was a big steal. He is an all stats player, but not a real center, because of the relatíve lock of blocks, and the rebounds aren't coming as it would be wanted. But the percentages,the points, and the threes could compensate. I hope the last year was the year of injuries, this year he will be healthy and a top 50 players.

I saw Wallace in the market, what was a very big surprise for me..at first. Wallace is not so effective then some years ago, but the steals and blocks are important factors. I picked up him, because I believe he can help my team in all categories.

 
69 youngroman
for twolves
7.02 Brandon Knight, PG, DET
Tough pick but decided needed a guard. If Bargnani had been here would have taken him and almost took him the 6:11 pick figuring get one of the 2 PGs I selected. Knight is second year player with some upside if he can get more assists which I wanted and shoots 3s. He was probably a reach but balanced the squad.
 
70 youngroman
for deejay
7.03 Jason Terry, SG, BOS
I had Gerald Wallace on my list here, but he went a pick or 2 earlier, so had to go a different road, Terry should deliver lots of 3's while giving me a good amount of assists, thats fine by me.
 
71 youngroman
for T-man
7.04 Gordon Hayward, SF, UTA
This felt like a bit of a reach at this point in the draft based on Hayward’s ADP. But I’m not buying the talk that the arrival of Marvin Williams will cut into his PT. Gordon is a flat out better player and will get his minutes and I’m expecting another jump in his all around solid stats.
 
72 youngroman
for Florian
7.05 Tim Duncan, C, SAS
I was going to take Ginobili in the previous round and he was still available, so it should have been an easy pick. I agonized over this pick for several hours before deciding to go with Duncan instead. I just couldn't deal with the risk of Ginobili missing half the season again or Popovich deciding to only play Ginobili 20 minutes per game because he is being saved for the playoffs. San Antonio is stacked on the wing/guard positions, but they have nobody to really replace Duncan. He will miss a few games here and there for maintenance, but he should end up playing at least 70 games and still puts up decent numbers despite his age. I considered Zach Randolph as well, but if I had picked Randolph it would have meant punting blocks.
 
73 youngroman
for Addicted
7.06 Zach Randolph, PF, MEM
Finally a player I was targeting fell to me!
Zach was a 20/10 man until he went down last year. He's looked good in preseason, although his rebounds are down a little.
Now that I've got 2 Grizzlies on my team, time to double up on some other players.
 
74youngroman
      ID: 56523304
      Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 18:14
7.07 Kevin Martin, SG, HOU
with the lack of perimeter shooting from my current PG corp I needed help there. would have loved to get a big man doing this, but there will be none available in the next few rounds. so it is either a SG/SF type player that gets me 3s and a good FT% or PF/C type that gets me rebounds and blocks. in this round I went for the 3s of Kevin Martin. He is shooting a high volume of 3s in preseason. I doubt that he will keep up a pace of 3.5 made per game. I am expecting more like 2 per game. his three throw shooting is a nice complement to the below average shooting of Tyson Chandler.
There is hope that the Kevin Martin of 2010 shows up.
 
75 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 21:45
for Dave R
7.08 O.J. Mayo, SG, Dal
I had really want Gordon Hayward with this pick, but of course he was grabbed. Next on my list was Kevin Martin who was taken with the pick immediately before me. Also under consideration was Afflalo.

I opted for a little glass of OJ. Mayo had a bit of a bumpy ride in Memphis the past couple of years, but now he is in Dallas, firmly entrenched as the starting SG. I saw one expectation that he should get 35+ min per game. The last time Mayo was a starter, he averaged 17.5 ppg, 1/7 treys, 1.2 steals, and around 4 RB's and assists. additionally, with Dirk out for a bit, he will be asked to shoulder some additional scoring.

I see no reason he can't at least match his stats of a few years ago

 
76Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Oct 24, 2012, 21:47
7.09 Kris Humphries, PF, Bkn
Another returnee from last year’s squad. I got him in a much later round last year(10), partly because he didn’t sign with the Nets until late in our draft. He ended up with a rank of #48 in the ESPN player rater.

After getting two rebounders with my first three picks (Cousins & Unibrow), I’ve been more focused on scorers. So Humphries fills a team need. With Brook Lopez not currently injured, Humphries may not put up stats quite as good as last year, but I should still get a double-double with a block per game and good percentages.

At this juncture, he’s also the senior statesman of my roster, at age 27. I also considered Kawhi Leonard, who would have fit the youth movement better – but I really thought I needed to crash the boards with this pick.
 
77 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 00:21
for Swinganamiss
7.10 Arron Afflalo, SG, Orl
3s looks to be a weak spot for me, so I'm hoping this will help to relieve some of those problems. Afflalo has now played in pre-season and should be ready to roll when the real games start.
 
78 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 00:21
for mailedfoot
7.11 Manu Ginobili, SG, SAS
He has an injury history and probably will not get the minutes I would like, but he should contribute across the board when he is playing. I felt that at this point in the draft he was too good to pass up, as I need to fill in my guard positions.
 
79 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 00:22
for Swish
7.12 DeAndre Jordan, C, LAC
'll admit that i was starting to panic about 2 things at this point: Centers and blocks. Jordan should do a pretty good job of alleviating both concerns for me. His FT% is truly awful, but his offensive game seems to have taken a few good leaps in the offseasen. He also had a stellar preseason. Expectations? A low-end double-double with FG% through the roof and about 150 blocks would be perfect.

8.01 Greivis Vasquez, PG, NO
I'm surprised Vasquez was still available here, so i just had to take him. Pretty solid as my 3rd PG. He has all the minutes he wants, with Eric Gordon as unhealthy as can be, and Austin Rivers just not ready to take over PG duties yet. He also averaged 12 and 7 as a starter last year, and if he can repeat that, he'll be a steal here with the 85th pick.

 
80 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 00:23
for mailedfoot
8.02 Louis Williams, SG, Atl
Continuing to fill in my guards, Williams is projected to get alot of minutes and is being mentioned as a breakout candidate by some experts. I expect him to put up points, 3's, steals, and FT%. He is eligible as PG also, so will give me added flexibility.
 
81 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 00:23
for Swinganamiss
8.03 Javale McGee, C, Den
Reassessed my team on the turn, and blocks also seemed lacking, so I went with McGee who should get plenty, especially if he can get enough minutes. Can't imagine undrafted would take too many away from him.
 
82Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 00:24
8.04 Carlos Boozer, PF/C, Chi
Solid but unspectacular. Definitely not a fit with the youthfulness of my squad. But he offers decent value at this stage of the draft, even with some age-related declines. He was a top-50 player last year, based on the ESPN player-rater. Really solidifies my rebounding, and provides the FG% boost that I look for from a big man. And he’s center eligible, which fills a need.

I almost took Kawhi Leonard. I almost stretched for a PG (might have taken Vazquez if he slid to here.) Considered a half-dozen other options as well, before settling on the presumed stability of Boozer.
 
83 youngroman
for SANFORDORS
8.05 Luol Deng, SF, CHI
Maybe Deng's injuries from last year are a concern, but Luol mid 8th round? Either I'm getting a bargain, or I missed the memo. Rotoworld says to target him in the 4th or 5th round. There is some concern that his wrist could be a problem, but he did return 5th round value last year, and it didn't seem to bother him in the Olympics.

Luol can fill up a stat sheet, he's good for 3+ assists, 6-7 boards, and 1 steal per. Additional he has become a 3 point threat, averaging 1.5 over the past 2 years. Throw in 16 ppg, I think I got excellent value in round 8.

 
84youngroman
      ID: 56523304
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 09:53
8.06 Luis Scola, C, PHO
coming into this pick the 1st two from my queue were Deng and Boozer. guess what? they got picked just in front of me. This time by the managers on the other side of my pick. My team would look a lot different if I would have the #6 or #8 draft slot.
so I had to settle for a different player providing me with points and rebounds. I hope Scola can do this for my team. he does not look pretty good so far in preseason but it is just the preseason. His main competition Channing Frye seems to be out for the season so there is some job security there. we will see how this pick looks like in a few weeks.

question to all: why is it so hard to find a shot blocker that can actually nail some three throws? I am still in need for a lot of blocks but don't want to pull the trigger yet on 2 or 3 category specialists.
 
85 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 17:13
for Addicted
8.07 Thaddeus Young, SF, Phi
Granger was the only SF I had so far and with his knee I needed to shore up the spot.
Usually I'm pretty good and picking up G/F and don't have to worry about it, but not this draft.
I had AK47, Kawhi Leonard, and Young to choose from. Young looks like he might be playing a 6th man role this year.
It's hard to say.
I'm liking how the Sixers look this year and it looks like there's enough minutes for everyone.
Florian picked up my other choices, or I'd have one of them also.
 
86 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 17:13
for Florian
8.08 Andrei Kirilenko, SF, Min
Kirilenko has always been an excellent fantasy player when healthy. If he wasn't so injury prone he probably would have gone 3 rounds ago. I'm hoping that he manages to get through 65-70 games. He'll be a valuable contributor in steals and blocks and help a little bit in all of the other categories. With Kevin Love out early that should only enhance Kirilenko's value early in the season.
 
87 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 17:14
for T-man
8.09 David West, PF, Ind
Up to this point I had ignored the PF position, and as soon as I made my 7th round pick, I knew I was going to take the best PF available at this spot. Fortunately only a couple went off the board since my last pick. Sure David West isn’t going to be a 20-10 guy like you want in you starting PF slot, but it is the eighth round and at least you know what you’re gonna get with West on a nightly basis. No need to get fancy here. I wanted to lock a steady starter into this position and save the riskier picks for the utility slots where a miss will be a little easier to recover from.
 
88 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 17:14
for deejay
8.10 Elton Brand, C, Dal
Though I have Marc Gasol, I felt I needed to add some more blocking, Brand does just that while having decent %'s. Plus Nowitzki down should open more PT for Elton.
 
89 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 17:14
for twolves
8.11 Jonas Valanciunas, PF, Tor
This pick will probably turn out to be my best since it was made by divine intervention and autopick which I have never used or intended to use for this pick. I think I had 18 in Que in no specific order to look at for next few picks.

My theories on how this happened include:
1. Someone higher up was trying to show me the way.
2. Guru made the pick feeling concerned about my previous picks or wanted to speed up the draft or wanted to prevent Jonas going to top competitors drafting in front of him. next round.
3. Jasonprof got too anxious and thought he was auto picking Jonas for himself but somehow did it for me. He seems to always pick the player I had wanted to get on the other side of his b-to-b picks.

 
90 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 17:15
for Jasonprof
8.12 Kemba Walker, PG, Cha
9.01 Glen Davis, C, Orl
The PG market was very busy and Walker was the last PG who I really wanted into my team. Kemba is a fantastic talent, and I think the second year will be the breakout year for him. He (and now me too) has problem only with the FG%, maybe it will be better this year. I am worry a bit about Sessions good productions in preseason, but I can imagine this two on the court at the same time.

Glen Davis will help my team in points. I wanted Valanciunas, but he was gone one pick before me, so I decided to strength in center position. I needed a center too in this period of the draft and Davis seemed a good choice. When he got enough time on the court he is very productive, and this year he will get enough time.

 
91 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 20:07
for twolves
9.02 Jameer NElson, PG, Orl
Needed a guard and some assists and 3s. He is starting and has pretty consistent numbers in recent years. With Howard gone, he does have some questions on whether, the numbers will remain the same.
 
92 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 20:07
for deejay
9.03 Darren Collison, PG, Dal
Had 3 names here Collison/Leonard/George Hill...
I have good memories about owning Collison, so opted for him. plus he seems in a way better situation compared to last year, he has no real competition at his position, now with that undrafted headcase suspended and possible waived....
Had hoped Leonard would drop to me in the next round, but that didn't happen... what was I thinking ;)
 
93 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 20:08
for T-man
9.04 Brandon Bass, PF, Bos
Nothing exciting here. He’s a similar player to West, steady but not much upside. I decided to use this pick for some depth at PF since I waited so long to take care of this position. If I have an injury to West, I can plug Bass in and he’ll put up very similar numbers. This pick probably would have been available later in the draft, but I felt that the guards still available are a lot deeper right now and by shoring up my PF slot, I’m confident I can find some good value in my next few picks.
 
94 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 20:08
for Florian
9.05 Kawhi Leonard, SF, SAS
I was somewhat surprised that Leonard was still available this late in the draft. He is not flashy and doesn't score very much, but he is entrenched as a starter and will hopefully improve in his second year. His averaged 9 points, 5.4 boards, 1.4 steals, and 0.8 3PTM with a FG% of .523 and a FT% of .872 in the 30 games after the all-star break last year. He managed this in only 24 minutes per game. I'm hoping he manages to play closer to 28-30 minutes this year.

I considered George Hill for this pick as well as I really could have used a third PG, but I couldn't resist the chance to draft Leonard.

 
95 Guru
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      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 20:09
for Addicted
9.06 Luke Ridnour, PG, Min
Since I go Rubio way to early, why not handcuff him with Ridnour.
Ridnour will play point until Rubio returns, he's not flashy but he get's the job done.
Another team I'm doubling up on.
 
96 Guru
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      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 20:09
for youngroman
9.07 Michael Kidd- Gilchrist, SF, Cha
I wanted Kawhi Leonard all day. In the morning I put exactly 1 player into the queue for this pick. now it is 17 hours later and I realize that he was taken a few minutes earlier 2 picks in front of me. damn! I did not not like any other player, than Leonard, worth a consideration here. I guess Kidd-Gilchrist would have been long gone if he had a better preseason. but he was really bad until now. I hope that he turns things and especially his shooting woes around. he should be a nice player providing stats all over the board. at least that is what all so called experts expect out of him. I don't have a good feeling about him. I fear that I hold onto him for the bad stretch and as soon as I dump him he gets hot and I am too late to get him back.
 
97Guru
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      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 20:10
for Dave R
9.08 Anderson Varejao, C, Cle

I needed a big, and looked at a few options, but everything pointed back to Varejao. He came roaring out of the blocks last year with 14 double double in the first 25 games, and 1.4 steals. He doesn't block allot of shots for a big, but if he can average close to 1 per game, I'd be happy.

He doesn't have much competition on Cleveland for playing time, but it is entirely possible they end up trading him at some point. I'll just have to hope it's somewhere we he can stay on the court.

I'm expecting an average of 11 points and boards.
 
98Guru
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      Thu, Oct 25, 2012, 21:53
9.09 Rodney Stuckey, PG, Det
When I wrote my 8th round rationale (Boozer), I mentioned that I considered a number of options. Stuckey was one of the primary options I had in mind, and actually started drafting his rationale – which helped convince me that I was reaching too far for an 8th rounder.

17 picks later, I don’t feel like Stuckey is a stretch now. This is pick 105. One of the rankings I’m looking at has him ranked #59. Another has him at #81. Last year, the ESPN player rater ranked him at 109, which is hurt somewhat because Stuckey missed 11 games. I’d rather have a true PG, but those are hard to come by anymore. Stuckey should average 4+ assists, with 16 ppg. He’s apparently been working on his treys over the summer, and if he shoots more, that may hurt his FG%, but maybe it’ll be worth it.
 
99 Guru
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      Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 09:03
for Swinganamiss
9.10 George Hill, PG, Ind
Hill is one of the last starting PGs available. I'm hoping he can keep me respectable in AST. Considered a lot of other guys here, probably Bogut most seriously.
 
100 Guru
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      Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 09:03
for mailedfoot
9.11 J.J. Hickson, C, Por
Hickson has been named as a starter for Portland, and had pretty good numbers (15 pts, 8 rbs, 1 blk per game) after being traded there last year. I am hoping for more of the same and would be thankful if he can improve on them.
 
101 Guru
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      Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 09:04
for Swish
9.12 Derrick Favors, PF, Uta
This surely must be the right place for Favors. Yes, he has Jefferson and Millsap in his way to big minutes, but after only 21mpg last season, and the hype around him, i would be shocked if he didn't get between 25-30 mins a game this year. That puts him squarely in 12p-9r-1.5b territory, with frightening upside if one of the big 2 are traded or hurt. I'll take my chances with the 108th pick!

10.01 Andrew Bogut, C, GSW
So, how do you rate an injury prone guy on a new squad, that's 2 seasons remove from being a 13-11-2.6 guy? Well, you join Swish's squad with a 10th round pick and look for 75% of that production in 70 games or so. Ambitious targets, but this could be my pick of the draft if it comes off. Then again, the ankle might fold and he'll be worthless. That's cool in round 10 though. At least my C position is coming together now!

 
102 Guru
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      Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 09:05
for mailedfoot
10.02 Harrison Barnes, SF, GSW
Barnes is an athletic guy who has been showing flashes of promise in preseason. It looks like he will be the starter to begin the season so I decided to take a flyer on him. Hoping for contributions in 3's especially.
 
103 Guru
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      Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 09:05
for Swinganamiss
10.03 Tony Allen, SG, Mem
Allen should put up good ST at a minimum. I got way behind in ST last year, and would rather that not happen again. Thought about Nene here, but I have enough guys who will start the year day-to-day or worse, so I didn't need another one.
 
104Guru
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      Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 09:06
10.04 Mario Chalmers, PG, Mia
I still feel like I need assists more than anything else. Admittedly, in spite of being listed as a starting PG, he really doesn’t get that many assists, but he also offers value in steals, treys, and FT%.

He was my backup choice in round 9, if Stuckey had been taken. Since Chalmers is still available, I’ll take them both.
 
105Guru
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      Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 09:07
for Dave R
10.05 JR Smith, SG, NYK
I really am not thrilled with this pick. I woke up this morning hoping Chalmers was still available, but nope. Guru snagged him.

JR can be great, but maddening at times. I'm not sure what to expect this year, the JR who secures a starting gig in NY or comes off the bench, the JR who averaged 16 points, 4 rb's and assists, 2 steals and 2.7 assists ( off the bench by the way ) for the last 13 games, or the JR who sulks, becomes a distraction and ends up in the coaches doghouse. Most sites list him as a " sleeper ", so I'm hopeful.
 
106youngroman
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      Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 11:21
10.06 Chris Kaman, C, DAL
initially I wanted a 3pt-shooter here but I couldn't find one that I liked for this pick. I have a few on my list but they have to wait at least for another pick.
we are now picking players that do have one or more of the following in common:
- good preseason with unknown playing time because he is not the projected starter
- bad preseason of a projected starter so that the backup has the chance to earn more minutes or even starts
- injury history
- banged up already

I would say Kaman falls into categories 3 and 4. I hope the injury issues will be gone in a few days. Dirk is out for the 1st few weeks of the season so it is expected that the big guys incl. Kaman will see a bit more minutes early on. I don't know if this is good for his health, but I better ride him for as long as he his healthy and producing. when healthy I primarily expect him to rebound and block. I also like that his FT% is not as low as for lots of other big men.
 
107 Florian
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      Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 11:46
for Addicted
10.07 Ray Allen, PG, Mia
I had Ray last year, and even though his minutes were cut later in the year he provided me 3s and percentages.
 
108Florian
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      Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 11:51
10.08 Jared Dudley, SG, Pho

Dudley is a "safe" pick at this point in the draft. He should be the starter in Phoenix and has missed only one game in the last three years. He'll contribute some 3PTM, some steals and decent percentages.
 
109 Guru
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      Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 16:20
for T-man
10.09 Chauncey Billups, PG, LAC
We all know what Chauncey is capable of when healthy. He’s practicing fully now and all signs point to him being back in his normal role soon. Could be a real steal here if he’s back to his former self. Could be a bust if not fully recovered. I feel I’m strong enough in SG to take the chance here.
 
110 Guru
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      Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 16:21
for deejay
10.10 Samuel Dalembert, C, Mil
10.10 Samuel Dalembert, C, Mil I actually had Dudley peniciled in with this pick, but 2 picks before me he was taken... So needed another plan, start looking at my team, and at the players still available and figured that I would take my last C(4th), so its over with that. I dont think I will struggle in the Blocks department this season, usually one of my weak points.... Dalembert is what he is, but hopefully he'll keep starting on his new team...
 
111Guru
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      Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 16:21
for twolves
10.11 Bradley Beal, SG, WASH
Needed a guard and picked a rookie with some upside and is known to be good shooter. This was probably a small reach with other SG out there. I hope once he gets adjusted to NBA and Wall comes back, he can put up reasonable Points and threes. He should be starting and get good minutes. One report also indicated he rebounded well which would be a bonus.
 
112 Guru
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      Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 16:22
for Jasonprof
10.12 J.J. Redick, SG. Orl
11.01 Byron Mullens, PF, Cha
These two players threw the threes in a high level in the preseason, so I wanted ensure a good position for my team in this stat.

If Redick could be a starter he will an elite player either as SG or as PG. Jameer Nelson always has injury risk, so this possibility lives.

Mullens and the whole Charlotte is a good question this year. I feel the team improved and it will not repeat tha last year poor production. Mullens could play a big role in this, mainly if he can collected the rebounds in higher level.

 
113 Guru
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      Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 16:23
for twolves
11.02 Omer Asik, C, HOU
I needed rebounds and recent game notes that he could get a ton along with some steals and blocks, I decided to add to my foreign contingent in the front court. Downside is a terrible FT% and likely not as many minutes if not playing at end of games.


for deejay
11.03 Courtney Lee, SG/SF, Bos
Had a whole list here... Lee/D.Green/Rush/Evan Turner/Dorrell Wright... Kinda had hoped Green would come to me in the next round, so took Lee over Rush at this time, because of the flexibility. Green didnt drop and am still wondering if I should have turned my picks around. I was aiming for the Lee/Green combo with round 11 and 12.

 
114 Guru
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      Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 16:24
for T-man
11.04 Jamal Crawford, SG, LAC
I wasn’t targeting Jamal here, but after taking Billups I realized that since Jamal’s game is so similar it makes a good amount of sense to grab him as insurance for Billups. Between the two of these guys, I’m hoping to be able to play the hot hand and garner a bunch of 3 balls with good percentages.
 
115 youngroman
for Florian
11.05 Jason Richardson, SG, PHI
It is getting harder to find decent picks at this point in the draft. Richardson has been a great fantasy contributor with all of his NBA teams prior to the last season and half in Orlando. The contrast between his numbers in Phoenix and Orlando in the 2010-11 season is huge. I'm hoping he was just a poor fit in Orlando. He has played well this preseason. I'm hoping that carries over to the regular season and he manages to produce somewhere close to what he did 2-3 years ago.
 
116 youngroman
for Addicted
11.06 Spencer Hawes, C, PHI
I needed a big. With Bynum out for a while Hawes will see some playing time. I'm hoping for 8 RB and 1.5 blocks, maybe 10 pts.
 
117youngroman
      ID: 56523304
      Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 18:04
11.07 Nene Hilario, PF, WAS
at this point you have to either pick someone with potential or with guaranteed playing time when healthy. Nene might be both but he is not really healthy. latest reports indicate that he seems to be close to return but the season opener might be too early. If he is out for the start of the season I probably can put him in one of my injury slots and pick up the hottest player available so that I don't need to dump one of my drafted players who hasn't played yet or had a bad 1st game.

other than that Nene is not very special. he scores with a good FG%. he rebounds. he gets nearly a steal and a block per game. can you ask for more in round 11?
 
118Guru
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      Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 23:15
for Dave R
11.08 Danny Green, SG/SF, SAS

Hmmm, I was a bit unprepared for this pick, having had computer issues most of the day, and couldn't get online until my clock was more than half way gone. Panic set in. I had a few " undrafted " players on my limited short list, and Green wasn't one of them. I had fully intended to take Biyombo here, but couldn't pull the trigger, and thought he ( or Seraphin ) would be there this morning. What was I thinking?

I could have probably gotten Green later, and I probably would have preffered the other Green, Gerald, but so be it. He is the starting SG for the Spurs ( although Manu is lurking off the bench ). His game is fantasy friendly, last year in 23 minutes a game, he averaged 9 ppg, 1.5 treys, 1 steal, nearly 1 block and 4 boards per game, and good %'s.

I'm hopeful and expected uptick in minutes will translate into improved production. Even at last years numbers he returned 6-7th round value.
 
119Guru
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      Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 23:16
11.09 Derrick Rose, PG, Chi
I wasn’t really planning on doing this. I started assembling my queue about 8 picks ago, and it started with Asik, Hawes, and Nene. I threw Rose in there just to keep him in mind.

When the three big men all disappeared, I started to think, “Why not?” I do think there is a reasonable chance the Rose will sit out the whole year. And there is also a chance the he won’t return until March, just in time to see if he can be ready for the playoffs. But if he should happen to come back in January, then this could really work out well.

The downside? Since we have two injury slots, and (so far-knock on wood) I have no one that I need to stash there, my only loss is the opportunity cost of an 11th round pick. If there was someone that I really wanted, I’d take him. But I don’t, and I’ve also got a sense that I’m going to be weak in assists.

If we weren’t using injury slots, I wouldn’t do this. But we are. And I did.
 
120 Guru
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      Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 23:18
for Swinganamiss
11.10 Evan Turner, SF, Phi
Turner was very good at times last season, and I look for him to be more consistent this season. I was thinking he had fallen a bit too far, so he was more of a "best available" than a "fill a need" guy.
 
121 Guru
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      Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 23:18
for mailedfoot
11.11 Jerryd Bayless, PG, Mem
Bayless moves to a new team and lines up behind Conley on the depth chart. But the other starting guard is more of a defensive guy, so I am hoping Bayless will get plenty of playing time as the third guard. He has shown the ability to be productive in the past and I am thinking he can contribute nicely for a late round pick.
 
122 Guru
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      Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 23:19
for Swish
11.12 Michael Beasley, SF, Pho
Very pleased with this selection. No way Beasley should be slipping this far. If he gets his head straight, i've gotten a 20ppg scorer in the 11th round. Even if not, post-Nash Phoenix definitely needs Beaseley's scoring. I feel a career year on the horizon, and that's the type of upside i want at this point in the draft.

12.01 Dorell Wright, SF, Phi
A couple of seasons ago, Wright was a 4th round pick and exhibited a versatile and multi-tooled fantasy skillset. After a down year last season, things look on the up again as he picks up 6th man duties in Philly. 30mpg seems possible, as JRich and Evan Turner cannot possibly play 35 every night. I expect something between his 2010 and 2011 numbers - that means tonnes of 3s and steals, and even a few assists. There are rumours he'll play some backup PG. Pretty nice pick here overall, i would say.

 
123 Guru
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      Fri, Oct 26, 2012, 23:19
for mailedfoot
12.02 Bismack Biyombo, C, Cha
Biyombo is a hustler and defensive specialist who will rebound and block shots. He is pretty raw offensively, but is still young and athletic; I am hoping that part of his game will be improved this year.
 
124 Guru
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      Sat, Oct 27, 2012, 09:24
for Swinganamiss
12.03 Gerald Green, SG, Ind
Green is a sleeper, and may only stick around until Granger is healthy. We'll have to see what he does in the meantime, and how long that might take. Sounds like Granger might deal with trouble all season.
 
125Guru
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      Sat, Oct 27, 2012, 09:25
12.04 Kevin Seraphin, PF/C, Was
Back to the youth movement. Seraphin (22) posted 14 pts, 7 rebs, and 1.8 blocks in his 21 starts last season. Shot 55% FG and 72% FT post-ASB. Those numbers probably reflect the upside potential, but he should get ample playing time, and might even start. Currently out with a calf injury, but this doesn’t seem to be a long-term concern.

I thought about taking Hinrich here (since I have Rose as well) to complete a Chicago PG, but decided to go big instead.
 
126Guru
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      Sat, Oct 27, 2012, 09:26
for Dave R
12.05 Robin Lopez, C, NOR

In assessing my draft, I seem to be pretty strong in most cats, other than FT% and blocks. I can't readily cure the bricks coming from team SANFORDORS, but at least I can try and add some blocks. Biyombo was at the top of my list, and probably should have grabbed him a round earlier, and I fully expected Seraphin at least would be available.

Hopefully Lopez wins the starting gig in New Orleans, there doesn't seem to be much in the way of competition. I'm not expecting much more from him than a block per game and some RB's.
 
127youngroman
      ID: 56523304
      Sat, Oct 27, 2012, 11:23
12.06 Chandler Parsons, SF, HOU
I looked at Danny Green, Micheal Beasley, Dorell Wright and Chandler Parsons for my 11.07. Since some of them were still there when I woke up this morning I simply looked at the news from last night. there was no news. Beasley and Wright went right after breakfast so I hoped that Parsons would last. he did.
I had him last season in a different league and he provided solid value in the 2nd half of the season. It seems that he will start for now and should provide similar stats than last year. He is pretty average in most counting stats with above average numbers in steals and threes, 2 categories where I project myself behind.
I hope that Delfino who is challenging him for the starting gig will come off the bench all season to give Parsons the 30 minutes per game I need him for.
 
130Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:12
for Addicted
12.07, Jeff Green, SF BOS
After three preseason games, Green leads the team in points (15.0 PPG), field-goal percentage (58.6 percent) and minutes played (26.7 MPG).
Of course he's sitting behind Pierce.
I'm hoping for maybe 23-25 minutes, 12pts, 6rbs and maybe 53% FG. Not bad for a 12th round pick.
 
131Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:12
for Florian
12.08 Kirk Hinrich, PG, Chi
I really wanted a third PG on my team. It came down to Hinrich, Sessions and Jack. Hinrich will probably start for at least the first half of the season. He may start all year if Rose does not make it back until next year. He should put up at least 10ppg, 2-3 boards, 4-5 assists, 1 steal and 1-1.5 3PTM. At this point in the draft I'm happy with those numbers.
 
132Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:13
for T-man
12.09 Demar DeRozan, SG, Tor
I had been eyeing Demar for several rounds now. It just seems like his critics have kept his stock down. Sure, he doesn’t shoot the three ball well at all for a SG. But he contributes in other areas and at this point in the draft, I’ll take an athletic starter that should get plenty of minutes and scoring opportunities on his team. I’m surprised he has slipped this far and feel pretty good about picking him up here.
 
133 Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:13
for deejay
12.10 Brendon Rush, SG, GSW

Was aiming for Green(or Dorrell Wright)........ of course they didn't last, so went to Rush, he did great for me last year after picking him up from the FA pool.
 
134Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:14
for twolves
12.11 Devin Harris PG ATL

Still trying to catch up in assists and 3s and he can contribute those and steals IF he plays enough minutes. Hopefully he will get 30+ minutes a game.
 
135Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:15
for Jasonprof

12.12. Jae Crowder, SF, DAL
13.01. Jarrett Jack, PG, GSW


Jae Crowder wasn't in my focus, to say the truth I have never heard about him before the preseason. This pick was the result of a sudden decision. With Nowitzki's injury Crowder got a lot of chance in the last six games, I realised the team was changing, but he was always in the starting five and produced well in all these games. I hope it was not only an experience but a final decision to build the team in absence of Dirk.

In this phase of the draft I needed to strength in PG position because I had only real PG Dragic is not enough to ensure good results in Assists. My second option in PG position was Kemba Walker, who can collect assists too, but I felt my team is too week in this area. I picked up Jack, because of his ability, but I know, until Curry is healthy Jack will not get enough time to be an elite fantasy player. I think it will be at least 20 games when Jack will be a starter, and in the other games hi will play about 25 minutes. It could be enough for him to produce as third option of my team at PG position.
 
136Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:16
for twolves
13.02 Ramon Sessions PG CHA

Not sure why I took another point guard here except to set up a battle of backup point guards. It is late in the draft and he seemed to be the best insurance in case any of my prior PG draft picks bombs out. Best case scenario would be that he starts or plays significant minutes with Kemba Walker.
 
137Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:16
for deejay
13.03 Brandon Roy,SG-SF,Min

Time for a gamble, though I'm still having some buyers remorse. With Kevin Love out, he might be good for a month, if his body holds up at least
 
138Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:17
for T-man
13.04 Jared Sullinger, PF, BOS
My rationale for drafting Brandon Bass was that I knew what I could expect from him on a nightly basis. I don’t think that’s true anymore. Bass’ knee seems to be bothering him and Sullinger has gotten the start in several games and played well. I don’t like what that could mean for Bass. Solution: pick up Sullinger. Not only does this help cover my hide for selecting Bass too early, but I feel that Sullinger compliments the less exciting but steady Bass due to his breakout potential. I will plan on playing whichever one is getting the minutes in Boston until this situation sorts itself out.
 
139Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:17
for Florian
13.05 Dion Waiters, SG, Cle

Finding good players in the 13th round is difficult. Rookies often outperform their average draft position. Waiters was the 4th pick in the draft last year, so he should get decent playing time. He doesn't have great competition at SG in Cleveland, though he does have Byron Scott to deal with as a coach. The experts seem to have him ranked in the 100-120 range, so this seemed like a reasonable time to take a gamble on him.
 
140Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:17
for Addicted
13.06 Andre Miller, PG/SG Denver
He's still averaging 6+ assists a game.
Karl plans on using him early (like, first guy off the bench) and often ("He's going to get 25 minutes a night, some how, some way," Karl said).

He might be a better flier than Ridnour.
 
141Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:18
for youngroman
13.07 James Johnson, SF, SAC
when given the time James Johnson puts up the numbers. he can do a bit of everything. I am not quite so sure that he will see the minutes necessary to be valuable but at this point in the draft you have to gamble on players like him. A have a few more similar type players on my list for my last 2 picks.

update: according to Cousins he should be starting. I can only hope that the coaches do also think like that.
 
142Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:18
for Dave R
13.08 Tristan Thompson PF/C Cle

At this point in the draft, I was hoping to catch lightning in a bottle. Virtually every site includes the words " sleeper " or " breakout potential " when discussing Tristan for the upcoming season. Unfortunately the same terms have been used when discussing some with a similar name, Tyrus Thomas, over the past few years. I'm hoping Tristan lives up to the hype.

He's young, only his second year. It looked like he was going to start for Cleveland, but now it's not as certain.

None the less, in limited time last year he averaged 8 ppg, 6.5 Rb's, and 1 block per. I'm hoping for a nice uptick in those numbers. Plus he fits right in with the rest of the guys on my team who are abysmal from the stripe.
 
143Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:19
13.09 Kosta Koufos, PF/C, Den
A real flier. Will apparently open the season as starting center for Denver. Had some stretches last season when he was playable. At age 23, could still be developing. We’ll see.
 
144Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:19
for Swinganamiss
13.10 Nikola Vucevic, C, Orl
I wanted another big guy, as mine are dropping like flies before the season even starts. This guy has some big shoes to fill, and obviously he won't do it alone, but should be serviceable for now.
 
145Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:20
for mailedfoot
13.11 Carlos Delfino, SG, Hou

Delfino should get a fair amount of minutes on a Houston team that seems to be a bit of a mess. He should help with my thinness at guard and I am hoping he kicks in some 3's and assists mainly.
 
146 Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:21
for Swish
13.12 AJ Price, PG, Was

Truthfully, i made these next 2 picks after about 5 beers on the night before i got married. I remember clumsily marking up my cheatsheet and not liking any of the names that were left. This is also the point in the draft where there can be some value in picking up replacements for injured starters, and that was my thinking here.

Price is locked in as the Wizards starting PG until Wall returns. Shelvin Mack was released, so he's basically got the gig to himself. My expectations are modest - some 3s and assists and a low FG%, but you know what? That's fine at the end of round 13.

14.01 Chris Copeland, PF, NYK
The Knicks have been devastated by injuries and Copeland has been the primary beneficiary. He's had an excellent preseason, and i don't see why that cannot continue whilst the Knicks roster is lacking bodies. That Euroleague experience in Belgium will mean he's NBA-ready. Basically, this was just a gut call. If i can get some monster games out of him in the first few weeks whilst the roster situation is murky, that's a good result. But maybe he'll grow into a role and be more of a keeper. Again, that's a reasonable risk reward scenario for round 14.

 
147Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:21
for mailedfoot
14.02 Enes Kanter, C, Uta

Kanter lost a lot of weight in the off season and has been one of the best players in the preseason. I have concerns about how much time he will get once the regular season starts, but decided to take a flyer on him here.
 
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:21
for Swinganamiss
14.03 Aaron Brooks, PG, Sac
Came home from a late night out, it was my turn, and the draft was paused. So I looked at a few sleeper predictions, and this guy's name kept popping up. I don't know how much he will play. Depends on how well Thomas does at PG. Seems like a reasonable gamble.
 
149Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:22
14.04 Wilson Chandler, SF, Den
I was reviewing all of the players on my roster and their respective position eligibilities. In the process, I discovered that the only player eligible at SF was Gallinari. I figured I should look for some flexibility, especially in the event that he was ever injured.

As fate would have it, one of the highest ranked remaining players at SF was also on Denver, Wilson Chandler. I don’t consider this a classic handcuff situation, although it does seem reasonable that if Gallinari were to be injured, Chandler would see extra playing time. But it’s possible that Chandler will have value even if Gallinari stays healthy.

At some point, I’ll probably want a non-Denver SF as well, although not necessarily to start the season.
 
150Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:22
for Dave R
14.05 Nate Robinson PG Chi

Rose is out for a while, possible the year. Hinrich is the starter, and probably will be until Rose does come back. But he didn't do much to distinguish himself last year, and Nate should get decent minutes, which is all I'm hoping for at this point.

It didn't hurt to see him go off in a preseason game for 22 points and 13 assists right when I was drafting.
 
151Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:23
for youngroman
14.06 Chase Budinger, SF, MIN
he is currently doing great while filling in his minutes for Kevin Love. I expect him to be valuable until Love returns, especially when he is hitting threes. the surrounding stats may not be great but who cares when you take a 3pt-specialist in round 14. I'll let surprise myself if he is doing more than just shoot from the outside.
 
152Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:23
for Addicted
14.07 Andre Drummond PF, DET
I had Brooks and Chandler on my short list...
Since they were gone, I decided to go big as in POTENTIAL.
Andre has looked good in the pre-season.
I don't see him starting immediately, but if he keeps it up he'll get there.
 
153Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:24
for Florian
14.08 Shawn Marion, SF, Dal

Marion has ranked in the top 100 on the Yahoo player rater the last two years. Hopefully he'll manage a similar performance this year. He should be particularly valuable until Dirk returns from his knee injury.
 
154Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:24
for T-man
14.09 Andray Blatche, C, BKN
Since I only have 2 centers and 2 point guards, I felt the need to close out the draft with a center and point guard to bolster my depth in case injuries hit. Blatche has a new team and has gotten some pretty good run in the preseason. Here’s hoping that the change in scenery brings him back to fantasy relevance. Stranger things have happened.
 
155Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:24
for deejay
14.10 Caron Butler, SG-SF

Butler sounds healthy this year, he brings flexibility and starts on his team.
 
156Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:25
for twolves
14.11 Marvin Williams SF Utah

Realized I needed F/C as only 6 on my roster to fill 6 spots. Marvin seemed like a possible fillin with some across the board contributions and is starting in Utah at present. Hopefully, the new environment this year help his production.
 
157Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:25
for Jasonprof

14.12. Gerald Henderson, SG, CHA
15.01. Patrick Patterson, C, HOU

In these rounds I wanted Nate Robinson, and Jeff Green, but they was picked up by another managers before me. I realised I have only three guards who are starters so I focused to a guard at first.

Gerald Henderson could help my team mainly in points with relatively good percentages. I feel his starting position is stable. There are some risky factor in the busy roster, but the manager trust is in Henderson. Last year this was the situation, I hope this is not changed.

My last pick was Patterson. His productivity depends on how many minutes he will get. When he is on the court he doesn't waist the time, very effective. He can help me in rebounds and blocks, and maybe points too.
 
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:26
for twolves
15.02 Thomas Robinson PF SAC

Took a flyer on a rookie with some upside. If he becomes a starter early in the season would be great. If rides the bench alot will probably on the waiver wires.
 
159Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:26
for deejay
15.03 Steve Novak, SF-PF, NYK

Should I need 3 pointers, he seems my man then, Amare down might free some minutes for him, I know he doesn't do anything else than but drain 3's, and that's fine at this stage of the draft.
 
160Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:27
for T-man
15.04 Maalik Wayns, PG, Phi
Ok, I haven’t taken a complete flyer yet in this draft. That’s what the last pick is for, right? Maalik is an undrafted rookie from Villanova that really seems to be working hard to stay in the league. Hoping the hard work pays off for this underdog and that he at least secures the backup PG position in Philly and sees consistent minutes. If so, I won’t be afraid to use him as an injury fill in.
 
161Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:27
for Florian
15.05 Jose Calderon, PG, Tor

Calderon should put up decent assist numbers, even in 25 minutes off the bench. However this pick is based more on the possibility of Lowry getting injured or Calderon being traded to a team where he can start.
 
162Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:27
for Addicted
15.06 Tobias Harris SF, MIL
I had Robinson, Novak and Calderon on my list.
Might have taken Dunleavy.
Anyways, it's the last pick so I won't get to attached to him.
Somebody will turn up in the FA pool soon.
 
163Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:28
for youngroman
15.07 Al Harrington, PF, ORL
initially I wanted Steve Novak here to get me the amount of 3s that I am still lacking. that did not turn out because deejay took him a few picks in front of me.
now that Chandler seems to be back for the opener I only have Chris Kaman that seems to be IL eligible. since we have 2 spots and I can stash a drafted player directly into the IL slot I looked at all injured guys if someone would be worth drafting that can actually help my team in 2 or 3 months. Al Harrington is exactly that. It even seems that he is ahead of his scheduled mid-December return but I don't count on that. When healthy he should get around 30 minutes where. he is also able to shoot a lot of threes so there is even a fit with my team beside the injury status.
I also thought about some rookies that could see some playing time, but they are all uncertain and not starting right now. I don't name them here because I'll probably pick some of them up when I put Kaman and Harrington in the DL slots.
 
164Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:29
for Dave R
15.08 DJ Augustin PG IND

I was just trying to grab the best available with this pick, and DJ was at the top of my list. Hill is the starter at this point, but has been injured. I think DJ gets reasonable run.

In a timeshare last year with Kemba, DJ averaged 11 points, 6+ assists, nearly a steal per and 1.3 trey. Not bad production from round 15.
 
165Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:29
15.09 Taj Gibson, PF, Chi
Could put up decent numbers even if the Chicago bigs stay healthy. Additionally, with Boozer (as the old man) on my roster, Gibson provides some cushion in the event of Boozer downtime.
 
166Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:29
for Swinganamiss
15.10 Trevor Booker, PF, Was
Another big man who can get some PT early on. I remember him doing some good things as a WW pickup last season. Again, no sure thing to stick around, but w/ Bynum and Stoudemire out I better get some backup big men.
 
167Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:30
for mailedfoot
15.11 Terrence Jones, SF, Hou

Jones is an athletic rookie who put up good all around numbers for Kentucky last year. He has shown signs of promise in preseason, and I decided to take a flyer on him hoping he will be able to carve out starer's minutes for Houston. Was hoping to get Gibson with this pick.
 
168Guru
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      Mon, Oct 29, 2012, 10:31
for Swish
15.12 [no pick - getting married instead!]

Maybe the best selection in the entire draft!