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Subject: Gurupie 20 - 2014 / 2015 Preseason Discussion


  Posted by: Species - [2471649] Tue, Sep 16, 2014, 19:37

Okay it's early, but with a quick moment and training camps getting ready to open soon, why not start the preseason?

First order of business: Roll call! Are you coming back for the season??

I have already had one manager state a high unlikelihood they will return........so we are likely to need at least one manager, and possibly more. Feel free to offer suggestions for replacement managers.

I will get some rosters up, post last year's trades and standings, and send out a league email via ESPN.

Looking forward to a good season -- particularly since my team rocks.
 
1Species
      ID: 2471649
      Tue, Sep 16, 2014, 19:39
Last year's trades:

The following managers have had their 2014 draft picks altered via trade:
11-2-13 Meatwads receives GO's 1st for his 6th (Gay)
11-7-13 Great One receives PD's 1st for his 3rd (Evans)
12-6-13 Meatwads receives Pete's 1st for his 4th (Duncan)
12-29-13 bmd receives skinneej's 1st for his 6th (Bosh)
1-9-14 Meatwads receives Dave R's 1st for his 3rd (Walker/Rose)
1-23-14 bmd receives WG's 3rd for his 5th (Gortat)


The following managers have had their 2015 draft picks altered via trade:
11-2-13 Meatwads receives GO's 1st for his 4th (Gay)
1-16-14 Great One receives Species' 3rd for his 6th (Dunleavy)
1-23-14 bmd receives WG's 3rd for his 6th (Gortat)
2-4-14 RSF receives Dave R's 2nd for his 3rd (Augustin)
2-7-14 RSF receives Perm Dude's 1st for his 2nd (Turner/Collison)
 
2Species
      ID: 2471649
      Tue, Sep 16, 2014, 19:41
Last year's effing standings:

Standings

1. Wazaaap Guy 155
2. Team Nashty 150.5
3. Endangered Species 143
4. SAN FORDORS 140
5. youngroman's Luschen 125
6. Skinnee J's 120.5
7. GO Second City Saints 119.5
8. Naptown 'Nados 112
9. Roto Guru 109
10. Kevin Love Fan Club 101
11. Hard To Be A KnicksFan 86
12. 3 Blind Mice 84
13. Total Bucks Homer 78
14. coldwater coyotes 66
15. beastie miked 64
16. Blurred Crusaders 60
17. Team Perm Dudes 56
18. Vampire Weekend 52
19. Mighty Meatwads 40
20. Team Slamdunkers123 28.5
 
3PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Tue, Sep 16, 2014, 19:46
In
 
4Meatwads
      ID: 98511618
      Tue, Sep 16, 2014, 19:51
In
 
6GO
      ID: 344132921
      Tue, Sep 16, 2014, 19:57
In it to win it. And beat Species.
 
7Coldwater coyotes
      ID: 49725166
      Tue, Sep 16, 2014, 21:02
I will not be able to participate this year.
 
8VampireWeekend
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Tue, Sep 16, 2014, 22:19
In
 
9Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 00:19
In
 
10youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 08:20
In
 
11Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 09:44
in
 
12RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 22712514
      Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 10:36
For 2015 draft:

2-22-14 RSF receives Pete's 5th for his 6th (Brian 'Bip' Roberts)



In.
 
13WG
      ID: 552431321
      Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 13:17
In
 
14 Pacers Rule
      Leader
      ID: 910311210
      Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 22:44
Not sure I have the time to compete at this point. If anyone is interested in taking the lead role co-managing my team, email me.
 
15Perm Dude
      ID: 431013412
      Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 23:26
In
 
16Species
      ID: 2471649
      Thu, Sep 18, 2014, 06:18
OUT:
coldwater coyotes
Pacers Rule (with possible co-managing situation)

Yet to check in:
Dave R
skinneej
KnicksFan
Toral/Ref
bmd
PistolPete
dpr

coldwater's roster:

C Robin Lopez, Por C
G Monta Ellis, Dal SG, PG
G Jimmy Butler, Chi SG
F Markieff Morris, Pho PF
F Jeff Green, Bos SF
UTIL Patrick Beverley, Hou PG
Bench Cody Zeller, Cha PF
Bench Vitor Faverani*, Bos C
Bench Miles Plumlee, Pho PF
Bench Nate Wolters, Mil PG
Bench Jodie Meeks, Det SG
Bench Jeff Taylor, Cha SG

Pacers Rule roster:

C Roy Hibbert, Ind C
G Mike Conley, Mem PG
G Ben McLemore, Sac SG
F Blake Griffin, LAC PF
F Trevor Ariza, Hou SF
UTIL Manu Ginobili, SA SG DTD
UTIL Samuel Dalembert, NY C
UTIL Tyler Zeller, Bos C
Bench Dwyane Wade, Mia SG
Bench Andrew Bynum, FA C
Bench Lance Stephenson, Cha SG PF
 
17Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Thu, Sep 18, 2014, 07:06
IN
 
18Toral
      ID: 1710311217
      Thu, Sep 18, 2014, 07:08
In
 
19 Bean
      ID: 5292191
      Thu, Sep 18, 2014, 11:47
If you need another manager, I am up for it
 
20Species
      ID: 2471649
      Mon, Sep 22, 2014, 23:12
Still waiting on:

skinneej
KnicksFan
bmd
PistolPete
dpr

Thanks Bean for throwing your hat in. Anyone else? Any other nominees?
 
21skinneej
      ID: 11192115
      Mon, Sep 22, 2014, 23:23
In
 
22KnicksFan
      ID: 36824238
      Tue, Sep 23, 2014, 09:24
In
 
23Species
      ID: 2471649
      Fri, Sep 26, 2014, 09:53
OUT:
coldwater coyotes

Back in with new co-manager Wolfer:
Pacers Rule

Yet to check in:
bmd
PistolPete
dpr

Somebody with their email addys please email these bums.
 
24dpr
      ID: 45839267
      Fri, Sep 26, 2014, 10:23
I should probably sit this out. I have not been very attentive the last few years and my fantasy sports attention has been trending downwards as well. My apologies for the slow response.
 
25Pacers Rule
      Leader
      ID: 910311210
      Tue, Sep 30, 2014, 19:38
Welcome Wolfer to the league. It's a great league...which is why I couldn't bring myself to leave altogether even though I find myself lacking time and energy.

Wolfer asked me a great question which I didn't have the answer to. Can someone point him to league constitution/bylaws/yadayadayada?
 
26wolfer
      ID: 44824920
      Tue, Sep 30, 2014, 22:10
I just want to know so when the draft comes around I can be more prepared..............
 
27Species
      ID: 2471649
      Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 20:14
25: Here is a really old version. I will look to edit this to fit things in the current millenium......but they should be materially the same.

I'll post it on ESPN as well:


I Site / Stat Source / League Fees

All game, roster and scoring rules will be governed by NBA. There is no fee for using NBA.

II Draft

The Supplemental Draft consists of a slow draft and held on the basketball standings board at rotoguru.com and (or via email to all should the boards go down). Beginning in 07, Time limits will be three hours for individual picks and 8 hours cumulative clock. You may draft until your picks run out or you have reached twelve (12) players. The clock will be stopped from midnight – 9 a.m. ET but picks may be made during that time. If you time out, you will be skipped and may select at any time. If you have been skipped and have not made up that pick and it becomes your turn again, you will be skipped for that pick as well. If you leave a Q and that person is available to post your pick, you will not be charged any time on your cumulative clock.

The draft order will be reverse of last year's regular season finish and it will NOT snake. Only players currently in the NBA database are eligible to be drafted. Waivers Priority will begin in the same order as the basic draft order (lottery excluded). Please note: The bottom 14 teams will be in the lottery similar to the actual NBA draft. Top three picks for next year will be selected via lottery. 4th-14th picks will be selected based on inverse order of standings.

Trades Involving 2007 Draft Picks:
2-7 GO receives bj21s 4th round pick for his 6th rounder (Nachbar/Parker deal)
2-27 GL gets Ref's 3rd rounder. Ref gets GL's 5th rounder (Delonte West/James Posey)
2-28 Peter N gets Ref's 1st Rounder. Ref gets Peter N's 3rd rounder (Tinsley/Devin Brown)
3-10 Tosh receives BJ21's 1st and 3rd round picks for his 3rd and 5th rounders (Gooden)
3-18 GO receives PD's 2nd rounder for his 5th rounder (Alston)

III League Settings:

Draft Type:
Offline Draft and E-mail draft

Max Teams:
20

Scoring Type:
Rotisserie

Max Moves:
No maximum

Max Trades:
No maximum

Trade Reject Time:
1

Trade End Date:
March 18, 2007

Waiver Time:
1 day

Can't Cut List Provider:
None

Trade Review:
League Votes (7 needed to veto)

Post Draft Players:
Follow Waiver Rules

Max Games Played:
88

Weekly Deadline:
Daily - Tomorrow

Start Scoring on:
Tuesday, Oct 31

Roster Positions:
G, G, F, F, C, Util, Util, Util, BN, BN, BN, BN

Stat Categories:
FG%, FT%, 3PTM, PTS, OREB, REB, AST, ST, BLK

IV Trades

All trades during the season must be submitted via the website’s offer trade feature to the league for review. If there is a draft pick it needs to be posted in our thread at rotoguru.com and needs to be confirmed by both parties. You might want to rationalize your trade as it takes just 7 members to reject the trade. You have one day to reject it so please check the site at LEAST once per day (many will have the email feature that emails all accepted trades). Remember with a Keeper league there may be draft picks involved so take the time to check those before rejecting it. Please only reject a trade based on the trade and not the teams involved. A trade by its very nature should help both teams either now, the future or both. All off-season/preseason trades will be governed by a commish.

V Keepers

Returning owners will have a deadline to declare what players from their team they wish to “keep” Each owner may keep up to 6.

You may keep less than six. You may trade keepers after you have declared, but you may not go over six until all 20 teams have officially declared at the Keeper deadline. At that point you may go up to 12 players.

If you keep less than six, the only way you can add a sixth keeper is via trade. You may not drop a player until after the draft is complete.

If you do not name your Keepers by the deadline, the commish(s) will choose those for you and they will be final. If you post your Keepers after the deadline but before the commish posts, your Keepers will be honored. Typically the commish(s) will start figuring out uncommitted Keepers as soon as the deadline has passed.

All “un-kept” players will go into the draft. A player MUST be in the NBA database in order to be kept.

The only off-season transactions that will be allowed are trades. No free agents may be picked up after the end of the season. Trades of a player for a draft pick are allowed.

VI Prizes

A fine plaque will be engraved and shipped to the winner courtesy of the previous year's winner. The trophy will be yours to proudly display with your other cherished mementos for 1 year. It will be the winner’s responsibility to engrave it and ship it to the winner. There will be an added nominal fee to help cover expenses related to the engraving and shipping of the plaque.

A separate cash prize pool has also been established. It is strictly voluntary. Only those who participate will be eligible for this prize. $15 USD entry must be paid by the season opener. The exact method of prize distribution will vary from year to year depending on participation. We focus payouts so it will NOT be winner take all. Six owners will have a chance to “win something.” Prize pool funds are due by Opening Night.

2006-07 Payout has 17 managers paid:
1st $100
2nd $60
3rd $35
4th $25
5th $20
6th $15
Total Payouts is 17 X $15 = $255

Ineligible for prize pool:
PD, Pistol Pete, Mike D

If any of the non-participants qualify, the prizes will be reallocated by the commissioners. Managers will move up payout position(s) and any remaining funds will go into the trophy fund.

VII Owners

As commissioners, we reserve the right NOT to extend an invitation to or remove any owner for any reason. Primary reason for being excluded would be abusive behavior (beyond friendly trash talk, harassment), purposeful rules violations (i.e. colluding on a trade), inactivity (i.e. leaving injured players in as starters repeatedly), unresponsive to other owners or commish(s), missing deadlines (i.e. keepers, draft picks, etc.). If an owner is NOT invited back next year. A new owner will be recruited to take over the vacated team in its exact state.

VIII Activity

Activity will be monitored. Every team and circumstance is different. Not every team will want to change their lineup every day. Not every manager will be able to respond to every trade the same day it is proposed. Not every manager will be able to answer emails immediately. Not every manager will make as many transactions (add/drops or trades) as others. Albeit, if we notice some inactivity (leaving injured players in lineup or leaving healthy studs on the bench) or it is brought to our attention, we may send out a friendly inquiry to that owner. Things happen in real life that is more important than this silly game, but for the integrity of the league we must do this. Every game is important! Please do not take offense if you receive one of these. Just let us know what is going on (if anything). Also let us know if there is anything we can do to assist you. Inactivity may result in a warning letter. Please understand that we are trying to work with you to resolve the inactivity. You are expected to respond to all trades/emails in a timely manner whenever possible. Activity on our threads in the Rotoguru boards is not required on a regular basis but appreciated by the league. An inquiry or a warning letter is not required before removal.
 
28Species
      ID: 2471649
      Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 21:01
OUT:

coldwater coyotes
dpr

Waiting to hear:
Pistol Pete
bmd

I have an email for bmd and I just emailed him. If anyone has an email for Pistol Pete, please reach out ASAP!

For the two (or more) slots we have open, we will have a random draw for managers to have the right to pick the franchise they wish to take over.

The NBA regular season starts on October 28th. Last year the draft took one week. I'm considering the following schedule:

- Keeper Deadline: Wednesday October 15th, 12:00pm ET
- Draft turned on: Thursday October 16th, 12:00pm ET
- Clock starts: Friday October 17th, 12:00pm ET

Thoughts/concerns?
 
29Species
      ID: 2471649
      Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 21:04
Oh.......I am offering Bean one of the franchises. He has been interested in our leagues for a year or two now and has received positive feedback from managers.

We need to recruit at least one, and I'm fearing two more new managers. I'm making a separate post on the Board for this. Please introduce prospective new managers here and have them post their email addresses so I may contact them.
 
30beastiemiked
      ID: 5911312710
      Thu, Oct 02, 2014, 22:28
Yes, I'm in.
 
31GO
      ID: 065299
      Fri, Oct 03, 2014, 13:32
Please let me know in advance when we plan to run the lottery. I have a prayer group I'm conducting with all my players and I need to know when to have it start within a 24 hour period. I plan to tweet all the guys on my team and make them aware.
 
32Species
      ID: 54740122
      Fri, Oct 03, 2014, 23:54
We need managers. I am not giving PP much more time. Please hit up your other leagues.
 
33Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Oct 04, 2014, 15:49
Species - FYI, I'll be traveling from Oct 9-13 and unable to run the lottery during that period.
 
34Species
      ID: 54740122
      Tue, Oct 07, 2014, 16:59
Guys -if we don't recruit replacements, we will not have a league. Please help!
 
35Coldwater coyotes
      ID: 49725166
      Wed, Oct 08, 2014, 13:25
I can stay in the league if needed

 
36Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Oct 08, 2014, 16:09
My son (Jaydog) said he could take a team if needed.
 
37Species
      ID: 54740122
      Wed, Oct 08, 2014, 18:10
35: We don't want you staying if your heart and attention is not in it. I am being a little dramatic in order to spawn action because I can't do it all myself. You are welcomed to stay, but we don5 want you to do it with a gun to your head.

Be honest and let us know. Thanks!

36: Thanks Guru. Jaydog is in. Bean is also in.

I am assuming Pistol Pete is out. If cc is out, we need one more. We will use the timeline in post 28.
 
38coldwater coyotes
      ID: 325102619
      Wed, Oct 08, 2014, 19:10
100% effort and motivation. Looking forward to winning ...
 
39Species
      ID: 54740122
      Wed, Oct 08, 2014, 19:56
Ok!!! League is set then.

Anyone: please run a dice roll or other random generator to determine who gets to have their first pick of the two available franchises between dpr and Pistol Pete. Call Bean heads and Jaydog tails (or whatever).

Once they pick their teams, I will add them to ESPN and begin getting Draftime set up.

I will post the rosters later tonight so Bean and Jaydog can review.
 
40skinneej
      ID: 11192115
      Wed, Oct 08, 2014, 22:47
Players available for pick upgrades:

Darren Collison
Amare Stoudemire
DeMarre Carroll
Henry Sims
 
41Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Wed, Oct 08, 2014, 22:52
Players available for pick upgrades:

Kevin Martin
JJ Redick
Rodney Stuckey
DJ Augustine
Ramon Sessions
 
42RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 2895822
      Wed, Oct 08, 2014, 23:05
Just ran a 1or2 generator at Random.org.

Bean = 1
Jaydog = 2

The result was 2.

Is that what you needed Species?
 
43RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 2895822
      Wed, Oct 08, 2014, 23:16
As it sits right now, open to pick swaps for the following:

J.R. Smith, NY SG (3s, steals, dimes, decent boards, lunacy)
John Henson, Mil PF (blocks, boards, upside)
Nikola Mirotic, Chi PF (euro-pimp now stateside)
Andrea Bargnani, NY PF (blocks, 3s)

I probably value Henson and Mirotic the most. Homer for the Bucks and Rooks.

Picks for next season's draft are more my speed.
 
44beastiemiked
      ID: 5911312710
      Wed, Oct 08, 2014, 23:17
I'm going to need 1 keeper. Prefer someone that can shoot FT's and someone that ISN'T a shot blocker.
 
45Species
      ID: 2471649
      Wed, Oct 08, 2014, 23:28
42: Thanks RSF.

Congratulations Jaydog. You get your first pick of available franchises. You have the choice between:

dpr: Keep in mind, this team finished last, and has the #1 slot in our lottery (and the #1 pick in rounds 2 - 6) - it rigged for Wiggins!

Roster:
C Enes Kanter, Uta C
G Marcus Thornton, Bos SG
G Bradley Beal, Wsh SG
F Derrick Williams, Sac PF
F Klay Thompson, GS SG
UTIL Marc Gasol, Mem C
UTIL Kelly Olynyk, Bos C
UTIL Al-Farouq Aminu, Dal SF
Bench Nerlens Noel, Phi C
Bench Shabazz Muhammad, Min SF
Bench C.J. McCollum, Por PG
Bench Bismack Biyombo, Cha C


Blurred Crusaders: This team finished 16th and is seeded 5th in our lottery (and 5th in rounds 2 - 6)
Roster:
C DeAndre Jordan, LAC C
G Chris Paul, LAC PG
G Arron Afflalo, Den SG
F Otto Porter Jr., Wsh
F Donatas Motiejunas, Hou PF
UTIL Greivis Vasquez, Tor
UTIL Martell Webster SF
UTIL Patrick Patterson, Tor PF
Bench Al Horford, Atl C
Bench Nikola Vucevic, Orl C
Bench Alex Len*, Pho C
Bench Dwight Buycks, Tor SG

Upon your choice of franchises, I will assign you to them in ESPN and you can start looking around.

Please do so ASAP! Thanks!
 
46RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 39939822
      Wed, Oct 08, 2014, 23:40
How the hell did that squad finish 16th?
 
47Species
      ID: 2471649
      Wed, Oct 08, 2014, 23:40
I have a variety of interesting players with upside possibly available:

Tobias Harris
Jonas Valanciunas
Kyle Korver
Nick Young
Alec Burks
Andrew Bogut

I can only keep 2.

I can consider trading one of my PG's (unlikely Westbrook, but Parker or Lowry) with one or more of the above for a more significant player than the PG. The new teams should certainly call on those!
 
48Species
      ID: 2471649
      Wed, Oct 08, 2014, 23:42
NEW TEAMS: Keep in mind, we have NINE categories......your standard 8 (FG%, FT%, REB, BLK, STL, PTS, 3, AST) PLUS Offensive Rebounds! A little weird, but fun.
 
49Jaydog
      ID: 13743720
      Wed, Oct 08, 2014, 23:48
I'll take the worst team (dpr)... no where to go but up!!!
 
50Species
      ID: 2471649
      Wed, Oct 08, 2014, 23:58
Wonderful!

Invites have been sent from ESPN to both Jaydog and Bean. Once they accept as a "2nd owner", I can delete PP and dpr......and you will have full control of your franchises.
 
51PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 09:10
Players available for pick upgrades:

Omer Asik
Tim Duncan
Jamal Crawford
 
52 artofmonk
      ID: 239699
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 10:06
I have not done fantasy bball for awhile, but I would like to join a league.
 
53Bean
      ID: 5292191
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 12:04
I'm looking for a #6 keeper whose ADP is #100 or better. I'd prefer a PG. I'll give up my 3rd round (3.05) for your 6th for him. Any offers?
 
54Species
      ID: 54740122
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 12:44
52: Thanks for your interest monk. We just filled up last night.

Thank you Jaydog and Bean for your swift entries into Draftime. Draftime is all set up....and holy schnikies Meatwads has 4 1sts plus his 2nd at 2.02 for 5 picks in the first 22! If the rookies perform, watch out!
 
55RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 39939822
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 12:51
Artofmonk, if it's any consolation, I don't think I've played fantasy bball in years either...if my record is any indication.
 
56Meatwads
      ID: 98511618
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 13:25
54 : Thanks for the free advertising, Species. I've been looking forward to this draft for a while! A lot still riding on that lottery.

I'm looking to add 2 keepers better than Jeremy Lin.

I have those 5 picks in the top 22 this year, two 1sts next year. I'll start sending out emails to people about trades. If anyone wants to contact me, I'll get back to you.

I'm looking for guys that can help this year. I'm also open to players that I think will be good keepers moving forward. I have a good idea who I like so I'll be able to let you know if I'm interested.
 
57 Species
      ID: 54740122
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 14:26
Guru is traveling. Can anyone else take an excel grid and post it here? This would help in draft pick trade talks.

Email me. Thanks.
 
58Bean
      ID: 5292191
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 14:30
<46> This prolly explains it, 3 best players:

Paul 62 Games
Horford 29 Games
Vucevic 57 Games

tough on counting stats
 
59RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 11937913
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 14:37
Yeah, I forgot about Horford breaking.
 
60RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 11937913
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 14:38
Species send me the SS.
 
61RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 14:41
Holy crap. I just 'did the Guru Validation'...I haven't donated in 5 years. Dude...
 
62GO
      ID: 065299
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 14:42
Can we do the lottery via Skype with representatives from each team at a podium with trolls and rabbit feet?
 
63RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 14:47
OK...just fixed that.
 
64Species
      ID: 54740122
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 16:47
62: We will have Guru run the lottery, as usual, upon his return....he is out through the 13th.

RSF: Grid sent. Thanks!
 
68RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 18:56




















Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 5 Round 6
1 Jaydog Jaydog Jaydog Jaydog Jaydog Jaydog
2 Meatwads Meatwads Dave R Pete N. Meatwads GreatOne
3 Vampire Vampire Vampire Vampire Vampire Vampire
4 GreatOne PermDude PermDude PermDude PermDude PermDude
5 Bean Bean Bean Bean Bean Bean
6 bmd bmd bmd bmd WG skinneej
7 coldwater coldwater coldwater coldwater coldwater coldwater
8 RSF RSF RSF RSF RSF RSF
9 Toral Toral Toral Toral Toral Toral
10 KnicksFan KnicksFan KnicksFan KnicksFan KnicksFan KnicksFan
11 Tosh Tosh Tosh Tosh Tosh Tosh
12 Guru Guru Guru Guru Guru Guru
13 wolfer/PR wolfer/PR wolfer/PR wolfer/PR wolfer/PR wolfer/PR
14 Meatwads GreatOne PermDude GreatOne GreatOne GreatOne
15 bmd skinneej skinneej skinneej skinneej skinneej
16 youngroman youngroman youngroman youngroman youngroman youngroman
17 Meatwads Dave R Dave R Dave R Dave R Dave R
18 Species Species Species Species Species Species
19 Meatwads Pete N. Pete N. Pete N. Pete N. Pete N.
20 WG WG bmd WG WG WG

 
69RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 18:56
Uhg...
 
70Species
      ID: 2471649
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 19:59
Good enough! Will allow potential traders to see what they have to work with.
 
71Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 20:51
Trade announcement

Dave R trades JJ Redick and pick 4.17 to Bean for pick 2.05
 
72GO
      ID: 344132921
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 20:51
Where is a list of all the outstanding trades?
 
73Toral
      Leader
      ID: 2111201313
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 20:53
Or even just the very good ones?
 
74GO
      ID: 344132921
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 20:55
and some crappy ones...
 
75Species
      ID: 2471649
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 21:05
72: See post 1

It's also on the ESPN page.

Dave R Please also process that trade on ESPN (so Bean may presumably use Redick as a Keeper).
 
76Bean
      ID: 1696920
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 21:06
<71> Confirmed
 
77Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 21:11
I guess I got to get some player back from Bean right?
 
78Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 21:39
Keepers
Joakim Noah, Chi C
Jeff Teague, Atl PG
Kemba Walker, Cha PG
Derrick Favors, Uta PF
Paul George, Ind SF O
Anthony Davis, Nor PF, C
 
79RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 39939822
      Thu, Oct 09, 2014, 23:27
Also see post 12. !!!!!!!!!!
 
80Perm Dude
      ID: 431013412
      Fri, Oct 10, 2014, 18:33
I've got both a horrible player list from which to pick keepers, and no #1 pick (which means I'm highly unlikely to trade away either of my #2 or #3 picks).

It very well could be that some of you guys get stuck with having to drop very good players that you aren't able to move. I'd be very much in the market for moving mid and low round picks if any of you guys want to get at least something of value.

So if you've got a keeper-level player (or even bubble player) that you have to cut loose, let me know. Even a mid or late-round draft swap is something for nothing.
 
81Bean
      ID: 1696920
      Sat, Oct 11, 2014, 14:59
Is this still the schedule?

- Keeper Deadline: Wednesday October 15th, 12:00pm ET
- Draft turned on: Thursday October 16th, 12:00pm ET
- Clock starts: Friday October 17th, 12:00pm ET

Just mark the keepers in ESPN or do you need them posted here as well?
 
82Perm Dude
      ID: 431013412
      Sun, Oct 12, 2014, 11:07
I've received a number of queries already--thanks. I'll sort through them today and tomorrow. Appreciate the offers.
 
83Species
      ID: 2471649
      Sun, Oct 12, 2014, 11:45
81: YES

I will open an official Keepers Thread for posterity tomorrow. But YES, please please please please please remember to mark your keepers on ESPN as well!!
 
84Meatwads
      ID: 98511618
      Sun, Oct 12, 2014, 18:08
TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT

WG gets :
Dennis Schroder, G, ATL
Archie Goodwin, G, PHO
Pick 1.19

Meatwads get :
Reggie Jackson, G, OKC
Gorgui Dieng, C, MIN
Pick 4.20
 
85GO
      ID: 344132921
      Sun, Oct 12, 2014, 20:04
Tyson Chandler is my 6th keeper. If you can improve on him with one of your leftovers for cheap... OR want to do a deal involving him cause you need some rebounding, let me know. I think I'm good with my other big guys.
 
86 WG
      ID: 552431321
      Sun, Oct 12, 2014, 22:11
Anyone want Amir Johnson, David West, George Hill, Danny Green, or Kendall Marshall?
 
87Pacers Rule
      Leader
      ID: 910311210
      Mon, Oct 13, 2014, 01:10
Wolfer and I are looking at keeping Hibbert, Griffin, Conley, Wade, Stephenson, and either Ariza or Sullinger. Both are keeper level guys so we'd be looking for an offer on a pick upgrade for one of them maybe even for next year. PD it's not a specific offer but may be right up your alley. Ariza's more at his prime while Sullinger is coming into it with youth on his side. Should have a nice year in Boston as a starter.

If anyone is in 'win now' mode Wade could be discussed for a younger quality keeper or something more future oriented.
 
88Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 14, 2014, 09:54
Preparing to run the draft lottery. Here are the team included, showing the number of chances per 1000 of being selected for each pick:

GO 4
Naptown 'Nados 7
Guru 10
Tosh 13
KnicksFan 18
Ref/Toral 24
RSF 32
coldwater coyotes 44
beastie miked 59
Bean 81
Perm Dude 109
Vampire Weekend 148
Mighty Meatwads 200
Jaydog 250

Lookup spreadsheet with lotto ball combinations is at http://rotoguru1.com/hoop/G20/G20-Oct14-14x4_balls.xls

I'll send audit copies of the random numbers to Species, Tosh, and Ref.

Stand by...
 
89Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 14, 2014, 09:59
Lottery results:

Pick #1: Beastiemiked

Pick #2: Mighty Meatwads

Pick #3: Perm Dudes
 
90Toral
      Leader
      ID: 2111201313
      Tue, Oct 14, 2014, 10:17
TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT

Toral gets:
Otto Porter, F, Was
Pick 6.05

Bean gets:
Pick 4.09
if a balancing player is needed, Dante Cunningham, F, Min
 
91Bean
      ID: 1696920
      Tue, Oct 14, 2014, 10:24
<90> Confirmed
 
92Species
      ID: 54740122
      Tue, Oct 14, 2014, 11:24
Dayum. Jaydog got screwed.

Grid updated with the recent trades and lottery. Draftime too.
 
93Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 14, 2014, 11:35
Updated draft pick grid

  Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 5 Round 6
1 bmd Jaydog Jaydog Jaydog Jaydog Jaydog
2 Meatwads Meatwads Dave R Pete N. Meatwads GreatOne
3 GreatOne Vampire Vampire Vampire Vampire Vampire
4 Jaydog PermDude PermDude PermDude PermDude PermDude
5 Vampire Bean Bean Bean Bean Toral
6 Bean bmd bmd bmd WG skinneej
7 coldwater coldwater coldwater coldwater coldwater coldwater
8 RSF RSF RSF RSF RSF RSF
9 Toral Toral Toral Bean Toral Toral
10 KnicksFan KnicksFan KnicksFan KnicksFan KnicksFan KnicksFan
11 Tosh Tosh Tosh Tosh Tosh Tosh
12 Guru Guru Guru Guru Guru Guru
13 wolfer/PR wolfer/PR wolfer/PR wolfer/PR wolfer/PR wolfer/PR
14 Meatwads GreatOne PermDude GreatOne GreatOne GreatOne
15 bmd skinneej skinneej skinneej skinneej skinneej
16 youngroman youngroman youngroman youngroman youngroman youngroman
17 Meatwads Dave R Dave R Dave R Dave R Dave R
18 Species Species Species Species Species Species
19 WG Pete N. Pete N. Pete N. Pete N. Pete N.
20 WG WG bmd Meatwads WG WG
 
94GO
      ID: 065299
      Tue, Oct 14, 2014, 14:16
Well if there was ever a draft to get bumped a few picks, its probably this one. There are rookies you'd want through the first half of the first round.
That said, I'd explore trading #3... either for 2 1st rounders... or once the draft starts for a couple veterans.
 
95Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Tue, Oct 14, 2014, 15:31
Trade Announcement

Dave R trades Kevin Martin and pick 6.17 to Perm Dude for pick 3.14
 
97Perm Dude
      ID: 431013412
      Tue, Oct 14, 2014, 18:01
Confirmed.

Thanks for the offers, guys. There were 15 total players being offered, it seems, and it took awhile to sort through it. Really appreciate the trade offers.
 
98 Pacers Rule
      Leader
      ID: 910311210
      Tue, Oct 14, 2014, 20:14
Naptown 'Nados front office has decided to keep Sullinger and put Trevor Ariza and his 1.6 steals minimum 5 of the last 6 seasons up for bids. Ariza has improved his shooting and made 2.3 threes a game last year at a 40% clip. Shot .456 from the floor on his way to 14 ppg with 77% FT%. Add in 2.5 dimes and over 6 boards a game and what's not to like? Surely he can help some G20 teams this season....at the low low price of a mid-round pick in 2015! Hurry, first good offer takes him....running out of time.
 
99Species
      ID: 2471649
      Tue, Oct 14, 2014, 23:23
Keepers are due by Noon Wednesday.

Please mark your keepers on ESPN!!!


Post in the keeper thread as well.
 
100 beastiemiked
      ID: 5911312710
      Tue, Oct 14, 2014, 23:24
Still looking to add 1 more keeper. Looking to use 3.06, 3.20 or 4.06 in order to obtain one. Send me your best offer.
 
103beastiemiked
      ID: 5911312710
      Tue, Oct 14, 2014, 23:44
bmd trades 3.20 to Skj for Collison and 6.15.
 
104RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 22712514
      Tue, Oct 14, 2014, 23:47
bmd...just remember that you can always make Desmond Mason a repeat #1 pick.
 
105skinneej
      ID: 11192115
      Tue, Oct 14, 2014, 23:48
Confirmed
 
106Bean
      ID: 1696920
      Wed, Oct 15, 2014, 00:24
<93> Table does not reflect my trade with DaveR in <71>

"Dave R trades JJ Redick and pick 4.17 to Bean for pick 2.05"

Unless Dave wants to let me keep 2.05
 
107KnicksFan
      ID: 36824238
      Wed, Oct 15, 2014, 09:29
TRADE

KnicksFan trades pick 3.10

Pacers Rule/wolfer trade pick 6.13 & Trevor Ariza
 
108Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Oct 15, 2014, 12:01
From the G20 Hoops Treasurer:

Prize pool dues for 2014-15 will again be $15. Your payment is due by the end of the league draft. If you do not pay by then, I reserve the right to hound you privately and ridicule you publicly!

For those new to the league, the pool is funded by annual $15 donations from each participating manager. The top six teams receive payouts, based on the total size of the pool. The league champ typically wins about $100, while the sixth place team gets $15.

There is no trophy pool assessment this year, as the trophy fund is still adequate for this year. (The league champ is eligible to receive a trophy each year).

One member has permanently opted out of the prize pool: Perm Dude. The other 17 returning managers are in the pool, and expected to contribute each year. The two new managers will need to decide whether to participate. In the past, we have allowed new managers to wait until the start of their second year to decide. That decision then becomes binding for all future seasons (i.e., you cannot opt in or out from year to year).

The following 9 members already have sufficient funds on account - either from last year, or from G20 baseball - to pay the full amount, and therefore owe nothing this year:
Dave R
Guru
Species
Meatwads
Beastiemiked
WG
Youngroman
Skinneej
Toral

Everyone else owes the full $15:
Coldwater
RSF
Pete N.
Great One
Vampire
Tosh
KnicksFan
Pacers Rule/wolfer
Jaydog (optional this year)
Bean (optional this year)

You may send your payment in one of two ways:
1. Mail a check for $15. Address will be provided on request.

The check should be payable to Dave Hall.

2. Paypal

Send to davehall@rotoguru2.com. Designate your payment as "sending money to family or friends." If you include a note, just say "G20 payment".
 
109coldwater coyotes
      ID: 325102619
      Wed, Oct 15, 2014, 12:32
Are there any changes to the list of keepers in the "keeper' thread?
 
110Meatwads
      ID: 98511618
      Wed, Oct 15, 2014, 13:04
Didn't Ariza and Collison get traded before the keeper deadline? They both appear on the free agents now.
 
111KnicksFan
      ID: 36824238
      Wed, Oct 15, 2014, 13:17
Yes, Ariza is one of my keepers now. PR will confirm later tonight.
 
112Species
      ID: 54740122
      Wed, Oct 15, 2014, 13:26
110: Collison was listed in bmd's keepers. I will make a change and remove him from the free agent list.

Technically KnicksFan did not update his Keepers in the Keeper thread....if we wanted we could enforce that. However, we have always taken obvious intent into account. KF needs to clarify his new keepers today and I will honor it.

So, assume Ariza will not be a FA.

I will most likely turn on the draft without a clock tonight. Clock starts Friday.

Any other questions?
 
113Species
      ID: 54740122
      Wed, Oct 15, 2014, 13:28
Scratch part of that. KF claimed Ariza as a keeper by the deadline.
 
114coldwater coyotes
      ID: 325102619
      Wed, Oct 15, 2014, 13:37
Who did Collison replace?
 
115Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Oct 15, 2014, 15:22
Updated draft grid

  Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 5 Round 6
1 bmd Jaydog Jaydog Jaydog Jaydog Jaydog
2 Meatwads Meatwads Dave R Pete N. Meatwads GreatOne
3 GreatOne Vampire Vampire Vampire Vampire Vampire
4 Jaydog PermDude PermDude PermDude PermDude PermDude
5 Vampire Dave R Bean Bean Bean Toral
6 Bean bmd bmd bmd WG skinneej
7 coldwater coldwater coldwater coldwater coldwater coldwater
8 RSF RSF RSF RSF RSF RSF
9 Toral Toral Toral Bean Toral Toral
10 KnicksFan KnicksFan wolfer/PR KnicksFan KnicksFan KnicksFan
11 Tosh Tosh Tosh Tosh Tosh Tosh
12 Guru Guru Guru Guru Guru Guru
13 wolfer/PR wolfer/PR wolfer/PR wolfer/PR wolfer/PR KnicksFan
14 Meatwads GreatOne Dave R GreatOne GreatOne GreatOne
15 bmd skinneej skinneej skinneej skinneej bmd
16 youngroman youngroman youngroman youngroman youngroman youngroman
17 Meatwads Dave R Dave R Bean Dave R PermDude
18 Species Species Species Species Species Species
19 WG Pete N. Pete N. Pete N. Pete N. Pete N.
20 WG WG skinneej Meatwads WG WG
 
116Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Oct 15, 2014, 18:12
[108] prize pool dues received today from Tosh, GO, and Jaydog. Thanks.
 
117Pacers Rule
      ID: 329241517
      Wed, Oct 15, 2014, 18:27
[107/111] confirmed.

Nothing like coming down to the wire. Thought we were going to have to let him walk for nothing. Sure hope we made the right move keeping Sullinger over him. Sully has youth on his side and has been hot in the preseason. Hopefully that bodes well for the decision but it hurt a little saying goodbye to Ariza's numbers.

Just so everyone knows, I'd appreciate it if any correspondence re: team Naptown gets sent to both Wolfer and I.

 
118VampireWeekend
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Wed, Oct 15, 2014, 22:57
I am going to be without access for most of tomorrow - so may be a delay depending on how quickly the first 4 jump in...
 
119beastiemiked
      ID: 5911312710
      Thu, Oct 16, 2014, 00:07
CC, Collison didn't replace anyone as I only had 5 keepers marked. I marked after the trade went down assuming the commish would assign Collison as my 6th keeper. Thanks Commish.
 
120Meatwads
      ID: 98511618
      Thu, Oct 16, 2014, 01:05
Should each manager add the players on ESPN as we draft them on Draftime? I think it's nice having a continuously updated player pool during the draft. Can we set that up?
 
121Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Oct 16, 2014, 11:28
[120] yes - with caveat

In order to do this, we need to effectively close the draft on ESPN now - which I just did. All non-keepers are now currently on waivers, and will clear early Saturday morning. Until then, only someone with commissioner powers can add drafted players to rosters.

Once waivers have cleared, each manager can add his own newly drafted players.

When the draft is over, we'll probably have to reset/re-enter the draft in order to re-initiate the waiver clock.
 
122Species
      ID: 54740122
      Thu, Oct 16, 2014, 11:34
120: YES. That is what we will be doing.

To clarify for all league members ----- Guru will be correcting the Collison / Ariza moves and telling ESPN that our draft results were entered. That makes all of the remaining players Free Agents.

It is then incumbent upon each team to pick up their drafted players on ESPN . This helps the entire league be able to sort through available players without having to print ranking sheets and cross off all the keepers, etc.

I really want to start imposing a fine for teams that don't pick up any of their own players!!! Get the freakin app already, will ya???

I will work on Draftime this morning, enter keepers and turn on the draft without a clock.
 
123 wolfer
      ID: 31756119
      Thu, Oct 16, 2014, 12:48
Is there any way I can be Co-Admin with Pacers Rule on Drafttime?
 
124Species
      ID: 54740122
      Thu, Oct 16, 2014, 13:02
Keepers are entered, and AWAY WE GO!

- No clock today
- Clock starts at Noon ET tomorrow
- Draftime is the ultimate domain of available players - remember ESPN is a guide, but teams may be late picking up players. Just because they show available in Espn does not make them available on Draftime.
- There are TWO exceptions to that:
1) Evan Turner for some reason is not listed in Draftime. If KKB adds him, he is NOT available to draft.
2) Players who are in Espn's database but not in Draftime's database are eligible! You can use a free form player entry into Draftime.
NOTE: we do not allow the drafting/stashing of players that are not drafted onto NBA teams. This includes foreign players, HS stars, guys who are skipping college and playing in Europe or China, etc. There's no prospect list in this league! That said, players who were drafted but got sent to the Developmental League (and are in ESPN's database) are eligible.


123: Dunno. I show you as a second email addy on Draftime. I think PR just has to give you his pw (?). That's a power domiciled in his account....not me as Draft Admin.
 
125wolfer
      ID: 31756119
      Thu, Oct 16, 2014, 14:09
re 124.

Scratch that. I am good now.
 
126Species
      ID: 2471649
      Thu, Oct 16, 2014, 18:27
bmd apparently missed the memo..........
 
127GO
      ID: 344132921
      Thu, Oct 16, 2014, 21:42
I've gotten offers and have a feeler out the other way on 1.03 so even when mine hits it might take me a bit to pick. I am confident in who I will take if the offers don't pan out, so just need to check in with the other managers first.
 
128RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 2895822
      Fri, Oct 17, 2014, 00:53
Of course a Buck goes number 1!
 
129GO
      ID: 065299
      Fri, Oct 17, 2014, 09:09
Taking Embiid certainly a very long term move just like the real Sixers. But I think its the kind of investment I need to make to retool this squad for the long haul. Any games played this year are a bonus, I expect him out for the season.
 
130RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 39939822
      Fri, Oct 17, 2014, 13:11
Nothing wrong with that pick. Was wishing he'd slide more but knew better.
 
131coldwater coyotes
      ID: 325102619
      Fri, Oct 17, 2014, 14:08
ESPN - adding players not possible ... going on waivers
 
132Species
      ID: 227262710
      Fri, Oct 17, 2014, 16:20
131: Commishes are doing it until they get off waivers.
 
133Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Oct 18, 2014, 09:51
[124]-1 - I noticed that Even Turner is in the draftime pool now. I removed him for this league, so he can't be drafted.
 
134RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 39939822
      Sat, Oct 18, 2014, 12:41
Thats odd...
 
135Perm Dude
      ID: 431013412
      Sat, Oct 18, 2014, 13:40
He should be added to my draftime keepers.
 
136Species
      ID: 54740122
      Sat, Oct 18, 2014, 14:12
135: cant do that once they have been entered.

He has been removed from the draft and cannot be drafted. We're good.
 
137Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Mon, Oct 20, 2014, 19:24
A lot of players gained position-eligibility overnight.

I wonder why ESPN did that? There were several players I liked in round 2, but I took Samuel Dalembert because I needed a C. It turns out I did not need him, and I now have multiple Cs.
 
138WG
      ID: 539431423
      Mon, Oct 20, 2014, 20:02
Sorry for the delay
 
139Bean
      ID: 1696920
      Mon, Oct 20, 2014, 21:32
<137> I had similar issue, passed on many good players because I had nobody that was Forward eligible. Suddenly I have a bunch. Big affect on how I drafted.
 
140Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 20, 2014, 22:27
I don't think anyone on my roster had any position eligibilities added.
 
141beastiemiked
      ID: 5911312710
      Mon, Oct 20, 2014, 22:41
Ibaka and Jordan Hill both gained eligibility. I probably still would've taken Varejao when I did but if he was gone I probably would've taken some center I really didn't like. Not really shocked that they decided to add eligibility now. Espn is known for doing stupid things.
 
142Meatwads
      ID: 98511618
      Mon, Oct 20, 2014, 23:01
ESPN did the same thing last year. I was personally expecting them to add the positions. It doesn't have as much impact on this league because we only use G/F/C.

But yeah, if people like Tosh were making selections based on thinking he needed a center, that's a good enough reason to be annoyed. At least everyone will know to expect it next season.
 
143youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Tue, Oct 21, 2014, 08:00
while looking through players for my last pick I wondered about the first page (sorted by ownership) of free agents and their 2015 projections.

I see Jason Kidd at 27.3 projected minutes per game. where does the projector live? in 2010?

Shaq has on ownership of 0.9%, Iverson of 0.7%. How long are they out of the league now? are there so many dead keeper leagues? why is ESPN still counting these leagues into the totals?

it also looks like Boston is in for a long season and some overtime games because if you count their projected minutes you end up with 354.7 minutes or 71 minutes per position. when was the last game that went into the 5th overtime? they have Boston projected to do this every night and will score almost 148 points in these games.

they also have Denver at 344.6 minutes. Minnesota and Miami at over 330.
most other teams average double-overtime, with only a few teams that seem normal. on the other hand these teams only have a projected 8 or 9 man rotation, which is also unlikely, even when these teams stay healthy.

I hope you don't rely too much on some of these ESPN projections. not that other projections are any better. Rotowire/Yahoo and CBS project have all teams to score more than 120 points on average. it looks like we are in for a long and high scoring season.
 
144Perm Dude
      ID: 431013412
      Tue, Oct 21, 2014, 16:45
It is clear in the FA numbers as well. Blatche and Beasley are both overseas this year. At the very least they should have zeroed out their projections for this year.

 
145RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 2895822
      Tue, Oct 21, 2014, 20:26
I had Jason Kidd queued up.
 
146Perm Dude
      ID: 431013412
      Tue, Oct 21, 2014, 23:35
Heh. Isn't there a rule about mentioning undrafted players that we all just violated?
 
147Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Wed, Oct 22, 2014, 13:16
[143] - Solomon Hill is projected to play 3656 minutes in 103 games. And shoot an amazing 0-1545 (0%) FGs, and 0-350 FTs.

You know that you're in a deep league when the 2nd most-owned FA is Shaq.
 
148Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Wed, Oct 22, 2014, 16:09
Nice draft everyone.

The draft has been re-set, and re-entered. Please check for accuracy.

All players are now on waivers.
 
149skinneej
      ID: 14911313
      Wed, Oct 22, 2014, 16:27
Will waiver order be reset as well?
 
150Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Wed, Oct 22, 2014, 16:35
I made a mental note to do that. I should have written it down.

Thanks for the reminder. Done.
 
151GO
      ID: 065299
      Wed, Oct 22, 2014, 17:07
My 1st rounder is for sale for a productive player. Anyone rebuilding already?
 
152Species
      ID: 2471649
      Wed, Oct 22, 2014, 22:53
148 and 150: The ghost of Tosh appears! THANK YOU for jumping in an re-entering the draft results so we may reset waivers. MUCH appreciated!

Thank you everyone for a good draft. Nice to have some time before the season starts.

Good luck to everyone this season!
 
153RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 39939822
      Fri, Oct 24, 2014, 18:37
Just reviewing my roster...this year you are all bucked. Easy win easy win.
 
154GO
      ID: 344132921
      Fri, Oct 24, 2014, 20:43
Did you draft Joe Alexander?
 
155RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 39939822
      Sat, Oct 25, 2014, 13:21
I'm using him in my PROSPECTS slot.
 
156RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Tue, Oct 28, 2014, 01:07
I'm pretty excited to see what Steven Adams does this season, even if he's not on my roster...although I wish he was.
 
157GO
      ID: 065299
      Wed, Oct 29, 2014, 12:22
Almost took Julius Randle for immediate stats over Embiid. Now Embiid might play before Randle. Crazy.
 
158RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Wed, Oct 29, 2014, 14:53
Man, Omer Asik, Anthony Davis, Ryan Anderson and Nikola Vucevic went for a combined 436 rebounds last night (approximately). Did anyone actually hit their first shot?
 
159Perm Dude
      ID: 431013412
      Thu, Oct 30, 2014, 10:23
Dammit, now Oladipo is out a month. Kevin Martin and Lyle O'Quinn twisted ankles, and everyone else is rusty.
 
160Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Thu, Oct 30, 2014, 14:55
I noticed a couple days ago that Shaq's ownership percentage was +.1 (up to 1.0%). So when I wanted to join the bandwagon and went to pick him up today, I find that ESPN has removed him from the database. Dammit.

Iverson's ownership was +.3, up to 0.9%. He's gone too.
 
161Perm Dude
      ID: 431013412
      Thu, Oct 30, 2014, 16:00
Jason Kidd is gone, too!
 
162RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Fri, Oct 31, 2014, 17:48
I have 5 starters on my squad? Who drafted this mess?
 
163RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Sat, Nov 01, 2014, 22:46
Guru, any chance that you are going to setup the "per/game" stats again? I'd love to see how bad I'm crushing everyone.
 
164GO
      ID: 065299
      Thu, Nov 13, 2014, 09:10
Anyone know where on ESPN to see positional eligibility? I know in MLB it was right on the screen you get set lineups.

In my other league I've got some G's that I think have been playing SF and I'd like to see if they'll pick up extra eligibility.
 
165RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Thu, Nov 13, 2014, 23:30
You can see starts by generic position (G,F,C) on each player sheet under "Splits".
 
166GO
      ID: 065299
      Fri, Nov 14, 2014, 09:04
Ok, that helps confirm if they are playing a different position. Then I found this... do they not make in season changes?

POSITION ELIGIBILITY
Before each season begins ESPN will determine the primary position of every NBA player available in the game. The criteria will primarily be the past year's playing time. This includes rookies as well as veterans. The listed primary positions are fixed and will not change for the duration of the season.

NOTE: In custom leagues the League Manager CANNOT change the listed position of any player in the game
 
167RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Fri, Nov 14, 2014, 23:24
Ersan is freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...
 
168Perm Dude
      ID: 431013412
      Sat, Nov 15, 2014, 01:06
He's been very inconsistent.

Of course, tonight Kendrick Perkins, Kevin Martin, and Gerald Green went 0-14 for me.

It will be a long season.
 
169Bean
      ID: 121011511
      Sat, Nov 15, 2014, 12:01
He's all yours fellas.

Taking a chance on Gooden getting more minutes instead (Nene hurt?). Gooden is always productive with minutes.
 
170RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 2895822
      Sun, Nov 16, 2014, 18:43
I think I've got my quota (or more) of Bucks.
 
171Species
      ID: 54740122
      Mon, Nov 24, 2014, 16:50
Dear Russell Westbrook:

Please take good care of your healed hand when you return.
Please dish out a lot of assists.
Please hit a lot of threes.
Please steal the ball a lot.

Thank you.
 
172RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Mon, Nov 24, 2014, 21:30
Why did I just envision Species kneeling down beside his bed, when he recited post 171, finishing with "Aaaaamen".
 
173Species
      ID: 2471649
      Wed, Nov 26, 2014, 11:00
** Trade Announcement **

Species receives:

Danny Green
Toral's 2015 6th

Toral receives:

Marco Belinelli
Species' 2015 3rd
 
174Toral
      Leader
      ID: 2111201313
      Wed, Nov 26, 2014, 11:06
Confirmed.
 
175 beastiemiked
      ID: 27652721
      Sun, Nov 30, 2014, 20:42
Josh Smith is on the block. Looking to win this year.
 
176Species
      ID: 2471649
      Thu, Dec 04, 2014, 10:57
Kinda like the standings this morning. I'm thinking of closing off the season effective today.......
 
177 PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Thu, Dec 04, 2014, 19:17
Lol Species. Enjoy it while it lasts. :-)

Omer Asik is on the block. I'm looking for a keeper quality guard who can knock down 3s.
 
178PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Tue, Dec 16, 2014, 23:18
Trade with Tosh includes my 2015 3rd round pick in exchange for Tosh's 2015 6th round pick.
 
179Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Tue, Dec 16, 2014, 23:26
178 - Confirmed
 
180 beastiemiked
      ID: 5911312710
      Tue, Dec 16, 2014, 23:45
Ugh, I guess Jabari Parker is available. Kid is only 19 so I'm not going to let go of him lightly. Looking to win this year with little regard to the future. Make me an offer. Josh Smith also available but judging by the silence nobody wants him :)
 
181Species
      ID: 2471649
      Wed, Dec 17, 2014, 21:12
I can't wait for Cousins to come back. Missed 10 games now.

I can't wait for Bogut to come back. Missed 5 games now.

I can't wait for Parker to come back.

Yet I'm still in the top 4.......I know everyone has injuries, but dammmmnnnnnnn I am feeling good being down on games (for the most part) yet still hanging in the top 4!
 
182Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Thu, Dec 18, 2014, 07:11
I can't wait for Paul George to come back. Missed 26 games now.


Oh wait, that's next year. Sorry Species, I hardly feel sorry for you.
 
183RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 011111814
      Thu, Dec 18, 2014, 15:11
Dear Fantasy Gods (no, I'm not talking to any of you schmoes),

Please arrange for Brook Lopez to be traded from the Nets so Mason Plumlee can continue to kick ass.

Thank you,

RSF
 
185RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 011111814
      Fri, Dec 19, 2014, 09:33
Species,

Could you puuuuuleeeeeze update the "trades" section of the Constitution to also reflect on this trade:

2-22-14 RSF receives Pete N's 2015.5th for RSF's 2015.6th (B.Roberts)

Thanks
 
186RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 4711411920
      Fri, Dec 19, 2014, 21:41
Watching the Portland-San Antonio game on TV. Epic battle between Matt Bonner and Chris Kaman.
 
187Species
      ID: 2471649
      Sun, Dec 21, 2014, 12:22
185: Done
 
188beastiemiked
      ID: 27652721
      Tue, Dec 23, 2014, 11:14
Lol, Josh Smith released. Nobody wants him. Of course, his fantasy value can only go up on other teams. Stop shooting the damn ball!
 
189Perm Dude
      ID: 431013412
      Tue, Dec 23, 2014, 12:54
Wow--that is a surprise. As a result, it looks like Greg Monroe is going to get back to getting A-list minutes.
 
190Perm Dude
      ID: 431013412
      Sun, Dec 28, 2014, 22:01
The trade just accepted included PD's 2015 6th round pick for Meatwads' 2015 3rd round pick. The full trade is:

PD sends:

2015 6th round pick
Nick Young
Gerald Green

MW sends:

2015 3rd round pick
Marreese Speights
Nene Hilario

 
191Meatwads
      ID: 98511618
      Sun, Dec 28, 2014, 22:14
190 : Trade confirmed
 
192RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Tue, Dec 30, 2014, 01:08
It sure is fun watching my young bigs evolve. Plumlee, Henson and Len. Shot blocking monsters. Now if Sanders would pull his head out, things would be lights out. These Kidd rotations are a bitch.
 
194RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 4711411920
      Tue, Dec 30, 2014, 23:05
And there goes the Plumlee bubble...
 
195Perm Dude
      ID: 431013412
      Wed, Dec 31, 2014, 00:02
With Lopez back and Plumlee in foul trouble, he spent a lot of time on the bench.

But given Lopez' injury history, there is probably no better speculative center out there right now.
 
196GO
      ID: 065299
      Wed, Dec 31, 2014, 10:27
During the game they said he was outright "benched" for Teletovic after halftime.
 
197RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 4711411920
      Wed, Dec 31, 2014, 19:03
He still did good things in those 17 minutes, but with BLopez balling, those minutes are going to have to be earned. Hollin's is a hard ass, so he's going to ride both Plumlee and BLopez hard. Still fun to watch.
 
198Species
      ID: 54740122
      Thu, Jan 08, 2015, 18:06
Holy 7 point loss in one night!!!!! Wtf happened to my percentages???

Welcome to 1st, bmd.
 
199RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 4711411920
      Thu, Jan 08, 2015, 20:12
Was looking at the trades made and noticed an issue:

1-16-14 Great One receives Species' 3rd for his 6th (Dunleavy)

11-26-14 Toral receives Species' 3rd for his 6th (D. Green)

Unless Species has two 3rd rounders, GO and Toral only get half a body each.
 
200Bean
      ID: 121011511
      Thu, Jan 08, 2015, 21:28
Caveat Emptor
 
201GO
      ID: 344132921
      Thu, Jan 08, 2015, 22:30
I'll just take his 2nd for 5th the next year.
 
202Toral
      Leader
      ID: 2111201313
      Fri, Jan 09, 2015, 03:13
Nwyaa ha ha...it's the guy who got the second disposition of the draft pick that gets the higher one if the trader doesn't have it...
 
203RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 22712514
      Fri, Jan 09, 2015, 18:55
Trade details:

RSF Gets:
Tyson Chandler
GO's 2015.3rd Rounder

GO Gets:
Ryan Anderson
RSF's 2015.1st Rounder


No...it doesn't include Species Floating-Point-Error 3rd Rounder.
 
204GO
      ID: 344132921
      Fri, Jan 09, 2015, 23:39
Anyone looking for big guys and rebounds I'm moving Dirk and David Lee.
 
205Species
      ID: 80541218
      Mon, Jan 12, 2015, 19:54
199: Good catch. I noticed that a month ago, and had been intending to discuss with Toral a renegotiation. That discussion has borne an agreement:

Toral will now receive:

Species 2015 4th rounder
Species 2016 3rd rounder

So for delaying his receipt of the agreed upon 3rd, he adds a 4th for his trouble. IMO, this also gives his team an extra year of maturity so he can see what he has in Randle, Bennett, LaVine, Stauskas, Porter, etc.
 
206Toral
      Leader
      ID: 2111201313
      Mon, Jan 12, 2015, 20:02
Confirmed.
 
207 WG
      ID: 539431423
      Tue, Jan 13, 2015, 21:30
Anyone interested in any of my guys not named Kevin??
 
208Species
      ID: 54740122
      Fri, Jan 16, 2015, 15:17
Gortat trade includes my 2015 2nd for WG's 6th.
 
209 Meatwads
      ID: 98511618
      Fri, Jan 23, 2015, 07:39
Pretty devastating blow to my mediocre chances of winning this year with the loss of LaMarcus Aldridge. For the time being, I'm still open to adding the right players if anyone is looking to sell.

The best players I have to offer in theory are Aldridge (I would need a stud keeper back), Rajon Rondo (I would need an elite assist man back), Reggie Jackson (Quality keeper when he gets a starting job), K.J. McDaniels (Shows a very roto-friendly game as a developing rookie).

I'd prefer to hang on to Derrick Rose, Andrew Wiggins, Gorgui Dieng, Greg Monroe and Kyle Korver. Gerald Green, Nick Young and Tony Allen probably have more value to my team as specialists than as trade pieces. I'm open to discussing anyone but the players I named are most likely to be dealt in the right situation. I also have two 1sts and a 2nd. Anyone interested in discussing anything let me know.


 
210 beastiemiked
      ID: 5911312710
      Sat, Jan 24, 2015, 23:35
Jamal Crawford and Mo Williams available. Best offer gets them. Looking for draft upgrades.
 
211 WG
      ID: 539431423
      Mon, Jan 26, 2015, 18:41
Anyone want Brian Roberts or George Hill?
 
212RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 59130108
      Tue, Feb 10, 2015, 09:31
It kills me when I see how decimated BMD's team is.

Speaking of which, you should trade me that Jabari scrub...for cheap.
 
213RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 59130108
      Tue, Feb 10, 2015, 09:33
Could someone explain the McGary thing to me? Wouldn't he go to the waiver wire, not free agency? I didn't put in a claim, but it just seems strange that it goes like that.
 
214 WG
      ID: 539431423
      Wed, Feb 11, 2015, 13:43
Not quite sure.

Anyone want any of my guys???
 
215Species
      ID: 54740122
      Thu, Feb 12, 2015, 11:54
Looking at the bright side.......Pete almost literally can't really improve his point total much :) FT and blocks is about it! Not sure I can get into the mid-150's. I need him to fall back a bit.
 
216Bean
      ID: 121011511
      Thu, Feb 12, 2015, 12:31
Looking to make a move for this year's championship run? Got a pathetic team that could use another keeper quality player?

These players available for a draft pick:

JJ Reddick (late 1st/early 2nd)
Aaron Afflalo (late 1st/early 2nd)
David West (late 1st/early 2nd)
Dion Waiters (late 3rd/early 4th)
Corey Brewer (late 3rd/early 4th)
Harrison Barnes (late 3rd/early 4th)

 
217Perm Dude
      ID: 431013412
      Thu, Feb 12, 2015, 14:46
Unbelievable that someone with a 1 in a category is winning this league by a not-insignificant amount. The next team in the standings with a 1 is in 10th. In a league this big, that is crazy.

At just about the ASB, I find I am pleasantly surprised to be in 14th after a horrible draft and bad set of keepers (and a brief stay in 20th place). Some choice FA pickups (Lou Williams/Hassan Whiteside) gives me a little more upside than I otherwise would have thought.
 
218RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 22712514
      Fri, Feb 13, 2015, 00:08
Perm Dude, I think you should ease up a little. Better for your health and all...

-----

I've figured I'm going for 3rd, behind Species and PeteN. Going to the 150s is near impossible with this roster. Been a tough row to hoe. I swear I've had 2 of my keepers out for most of the season, sorta doing a rotation of who its going to be.
 
219Perm Dude
      ID: 431013412
      Fri, Feb 13, 2015, 00:53
I turn 50 at the end of the month. I've got until then...

:)
 
220 beastiemiked
      ID: 11501819
      Wed, Feb 18, 2015, 21:04
Anybody want Kobe? He's gotta have gas in the tank next year. Looking for some draft swap or somebody that will crush this year. I want to beat RSF(barring I trade Crawford or Williams).
 
221 Species
      ID: 54740122
      Fri, Feb 27, 2015, 12:34
Hot in conversations for threes. My 1st could be in play. Inquire within !
 
222Species
      ID: 54740122
      Fri, Feb 27, 2015, 20:19
Trade with bmd includes my 2015 1st for his 2nd.
 
223beastiemiked
      ID: 481162721
      Fri, Feb 27, 2015, 22:16
Confirm
 
224 beastiemiked
      ID: 481162721
      Fri, Feb 27, 2015, 22:20
Mo Williams available. He's played 37+ minutes in 3 of 4 games since being traded. Great option for cheap!
 
225 PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Sat, Feb 28, 2015, 12:10
I'm looking for blocks.
 
226Beastiemiked
      ID: 3221438
      Tue, Mar 03, 2015, 22:06
Another 20+ point 10+ assist game for Mo Williams. Give me a reasonable offer(draft pick upgrade) and he's yours.
 
227RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 51213418
      Wed, Mar 04, 2015, 19:14
Trade details:

RSF Gets:
Mo Williams
BMD's 2015.4th Rounder

BMD Gets:
O.J. Mayo
GO's 2015.3rd Rounder
 
228Species
      ID: 54740122
      Fri, Mar 06, 2015, 09:45
Tough loss for Pete with Matthews. Sadly for me, I think his cushions in those key categories are just too strong. I can't catch him!
 
229PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Fri, Mar 06, 2015, 19:59
Species, yeah it was tough to see him go down like that. This one is far from over though. When is the trade deadline? I tried to find it, but can't.
 
230RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 51213418
      Fri, Mar 06, 2015, 20:08
Hmm:
Trade Deadline : No Deadline
 
231Bean
      ID: 14147911
      Mon, Mar 09, 2015, 00:38
Is there a rule governing the minimum games played in this league?
 
232RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 22712514
      Tue, Mar 10, 2015, 00:13
Wow Bean. I'm all for tanking, but Wow.
 
233Bean
      ID: 14147911
      Tue, Mar 10, 2015, 00:41
Dude, this is a money league right? Just want to play by the rules. I opted for no money this year,so there is no glory in finishing top 6.
 
234Bean
      ID: 14147911
      Tue, Mar 10, 2015, 00:54
Hehe better step up your game bro.
 
235Species
      ID: 6031912
      Tue, Mar 10, 2015, 09:27
Bean - as much as it would benefit my team to have you continue that, I need to ask you to field a lineup. While perhaps not against a specific rule (although we do have such a rule in Baseball -- time for some lazy ass commissioner-type to update our hoops rules), benching your roster is certainly against the spirit of our league.

The closest we have to a rule is this:

"VII Owners

As commissioners, we reserve the right NOT to extend an invitation to or remove any owner for any reason. Primary reason for being excluded would be abusive behavior (beyond friendly trash talk, harassment), purposeful rules violations (i.e. colluding on a trade), inactivity (i.e. leaving injured players in as starters repeatedly), unresponsive to other owners or commish(s), missing deadlines (i.e. keepers, draft picks, etc.). If an owner is NOT invited back next year. A new owner will be recruited to take over the vacated team in its exact state. "

There is a fight for the title, and your team CAN have an effect on this. I am behind you in OREB and you are right behind me in REB. I am only 2 behind Pete, so in fairness to him it is my opinion you need to play out the string with, at least, a valid starting lineup. You don't have to sub in and necessarily maximize games, but a valid starting lineup (even untouched) should be a minimum.
 
236Bean
      ID: 14147911
      Tue, Mar 10, 2015, 11:41
Awshucks, OK.

So, its OK to tank as long as nobody notices then right? With the large upper GP limit in this league, its easy to tank by just not rotating players, which appears to be common. Would be nice to have a specific criteria.

I use minimum GP in the keeper league I run. The penalty is to be subject to a vote for retention. A third of the owners have fallen below the threshold in each year so we didnt vote for fear of decimating the league.

I'm thinking of altering the rule to an automatic draft order penalty instead. Difficult to encourage full participation without destroying parity.
 
237Species
      ID: 54740122
      Tue, Mar 10, 2015, 17:23
236: Thanks for understanding.....and thanks for the suggestions. I will endeavor to put something down that we can discuss, vote upon and implement. I love the idea of a draft penalty.
 
238PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Tue, Mar 10, 2015, 20:01
Trade with BMD includes my 2015 2nd for his 2015 5th.
 
239beastiemiked
      ID: 262131019
      Tue, Mar 10, 2015, 20:13
Confirmed
 
240RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 22712514
      Sat, Mar 14, 2015, 21:38
Which one of these players is in the top 10 in blocks per game?

Roy Hibbert
Marc Gasol
Andrew Bogut
Brook Lopez
DeMarcus Cousins
Dwight Howard
Marcin Gortat
Al Horford
Joakim Noah
John Henson

Hint: it's not any of the first nine names...

Please JKidd...please please please...
 
241RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 22712514
      Mon, Mar 16, 2015, 23:53
More fun with John Henson:

Bucks record by the minutes Henson plays

25-38 Minutes - 7 Wins 2 Loses - 77.8 Win Percentage
20-24 Minutes - 6 Wins 6 Loses - 50.0 Win Percentage
15-19 Minutes - 9 Wins 10 Loses - 47.4 Win Percentage
00-14 Minutes - 12 Wins 14 Loses - 46.2 Win Percentage

Hey Kidd, you see a pattern there?
 
242GO
      ID: 432341310
      Tue, Mar 17, 2015, 13:34
Or does he only play in garbage time?
 
243RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 22712514
      Tue, Mar 17, 2015, 20:01
Don't ruin my delusion!
 
244youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Sat, Mar 21, 2015, 04:25
stat of the night: Zaza Pachulia with an NBA record of 18 offensive rebounds.

Trivia: who are the other 2 players that achieved that feet? (it is an official stat since 1985)
 
245RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 22712514
      Sat, Mar 21, 2015, 20:23
Cheating, you can see it at Basketball-Reference.com.

But really, all that matters is that he's a Buck! :)
 
246Species
      ID: 54740122
      Wed, Mar 25, 2015, 23:26
A real battle royal between Pete and I down the stretch. Sadly I am losing players/games left and right! Got to hang on!

Good luck down the stretch Pete.
 
247PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Thu, Mar 26, 2015, 09:16
Good luck to you too Species. My team max is 155 roto points so you'll have to fall back for me to have any chance.
 
248Species
      ID: 54740122
      Sun, Apr 05, 2015, 12:30
Just when I thought Pete and I were more or less maxed out......we reach new heights. Crazy!
 
249RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 22712514
      Mon, Apr 13, 2015, 09:12
Thinking of my best way to snag a point or two from Species. Only chance is assists. Nothing like a good tie for first.

Funny thing, tanking would not help my team at all. If I have this correct, I hold the following draft picks next season:

1st - Perm Dude
2nd - Dave R
3rd - GO
4th - Beastiemiked
5th - Mine (what!!!)
5th - Pete N

Sheesh, all I need to do is deal my 5th and I no longer have any of my own picks. Mike D would be proud.
 
250Species
      ID: 54740122
      Mon, Apr 13, 2015, 12:35
Thanks RSF. I might be able to accomplish that and my own by losing a point in 3s. Good gawd I hope Westbrook's suspension gets overturned. That would suck!

Getting sooooooo close. I mortgaged my ass off for this......can't blow it now!!!
 
251Species
      ID: 6031912
      Tue, Apr 14, 2015, 12:57
Two days to go.

FYI --- once the season is over tomorrow, no free agent pickups will be allowed. If you have any stashes you'd like as potential keepers, pick them up today or tomorrow.
 
252RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 51213418
      Tue, Apr 14, 2015, 23:05
*just as long as they aren't waiver claims...
 
253PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Thu, Apr 16, 2015, 08:23
Congrats Species! Nicely done.
 
254RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 22712514
      Thu, Apr 16, 2015, 09:02
Good job Species!
 
255Bean
      ID: 14147911
      Thu, Apr 16, 2015, 10:04
Grats
 
256Species
      ID: 6031912
      Thu, Apr 16, 2015, 10:22
Final Standings:

1 Endangered Species 160 +1
2 Drummond and Curry Inc 157 +0
3 Total Bucks Homer 137 +1
4 SAN FORDORS 133 -2
5 Bean's Buckeyes 126.5 -0.5
6 coldwater coyotes 123.5 +1.5
7 Mighty Meatwads 116 +1
8 Hard To Be A KnicksFan 99.5 +0.5
9 Jay dog 94 +2
10 Naptown 'Nados 87 -1
11 youngroman's Luschen 77.5 -1
12 Wazaaap Guy 76.5 +1
13 GO Second City Saints 74 +0
14 beastie miked 67.5 -2.5
15 Skinnee J's 65 -3
16 Kevin Love Fan Club 60.5 +0.5
17 Team Perm Dudes 60 -1
17 Vampire Weekend 60 +2
19 Toronto Huskies 59.5 -0.5
20 Roto Guru 56 +1
 
257Species
      ID: 6031912
      Thu, Apr 16, 2015, 10:32
Wow. What a grind......pretty shocked but hella stoked!!! I was losing key players left and right down the stretch like Demarcus Cousins, Kyle Lowry and Jamal Crawford.....but thankfully I had enough depth to limp to the finish line....

I mortgaged the hell out of my team, trading my first 4 picks and will start next year with bmd's 2nd as my highest pick (yeeesh!)........but to win is divine and I am thrilled.

MVP: Kevin Durant

As Kevin Durant faltered, Russell Westbrook simply became a MACHINE. For the year he averaged 28 PPG, 8.6 assists, 7.3 REB, 1.9 OREB, 2.1 STL and hit 83.5% of his 10 FT a night. That pales in comparison to the work he did while Durant was out -- a triple double machine to say the least. And these weren't Jason Kidd 11-point triple doubles.....these were triple doubles with 30 and 40 points on top of the assists and rebounds. Crazy.

Least Valuable Player: Jamal Crawford Bad luck for me. Traded for him and he got hurt. Did not give me the 3s I desperately needed to improve or just hold steady in that category.........thank gawd for:

Most Critical Pickup: Hollis Thompson Former WG trade bait, I snagged him up at the end of March......and during those last 2 and a half weeks, Thompson lit it up for 3 threes a game. Look it up --- I ended up 23 threes away from losing 3 points in the standings.....and 26 threes away from losing 4 points in the standings. I might have held on without him (or with less from another FA pickup), but I sure as hell would have gotten an ulcer without him draining 3s like Steph Curry in practice. He also didn't miss a single free throw in the last 15 days. Sure, only 1.7 FT a game, but that was nice.

Key Trades: Trading early for Danny Green and in January for Marcin Gortat gave me key depth to run out a pretty solid lineup every night as people sat out games. Westbrook early on, Cousins with meningitis (or whatever the F he had), Lowry, Parker, etc etc. Green was solid with contributing numbers across the board: 2.4 3s, a block, a steal, 4 boards and a few assists a night. Gortat was a solid big man with good FG, decent points and strong offensive boards with a block and a half a game.

I feel bad for Pete -- three second place finishes in a row has to sting. But with Lebron only hitting 71% FT, and Andre Drummond doing a Dwight Howard in his prime imitation (both the GREAT and the sucky-ass FT%), I'm not sure how he manages his team any better than he did! Geezus -- if you just exclude the FT% category, Pete's team put up 155 out of a possible 160 points! That is totally nuts.

Congrats to RSF for turning James Harden and a relatively ragtag group of guys into a 3rd place finish! Very well done.

Dave R's SANFORDORS team will be a team to be reckoned with next year with a healthy Paul George back. What a set of keepers: Davis, George, Teague, Walker, Favors and perhaps Noah. Well rounded.

Bean managed very well with every roster spot taken by a contributing player. His entire ending roster has a player with a double-digit scoring average for the year -- pretty damned impressive.

coldwater coyotes went from questioning whether to play to a very high finish. Now he has high-upside guys like Butler, Gobert and Mirotic to form a really solid core.

Meatwads loaded up on picks and maybe someday Derrick Rose will play 60 games. He added a star in the making (or at least a really productive young pg) in Jackson to go with Aldridge, Rose, Rondo and Monroe. He has some bullets in his gun for more trades too.

And kudos to the rest of the league for their efforts as well. Thanks for making it fun!
 
258blue hen
      ID: 10354414
      Thu, Apr 16, 2015, 11:17
Congrats Species!
 
259Jaydog
      ID: 3216916
      Thu, Apr 16, 2015, 13:53
Wow... entering the season I thought my team would be lucky to finish out of the bottom 3, and I finished in the top half. I essentially punted the draft this season, stocking up on rookies with upside at the sacrifice of stability. Only Payton panned out (McDermitt and Warren were complete busts, and I gave up a bit too early on Rodney Hood). Strong runs from Elfrid Payton, Nerlens Noel, and Enes Kanter, coupling them with Beal, Klay Thompson, and Marc Gasol give me a real solid stable of keepers heading into next season.

Congrats to Species!!
 
260beastiemiked
      ID: 393311613
      Thu, Apr 16, 2015, 14:31
Congrats Species. Pete with best 2nd place finish ever. Very impressive.

Recap of my season can be summed up with one letter 'O'. 4 of my guys were "out" over half the season and another 3 were "out" the last few weeks.
 
261Perm Dude
      ID: 431013412
      Thu, Apr 16, 2015, 14:46
Nice job, Species! Everything fell into place, and you managed the hell out of your team to maximize what you had when things weren't breaking your way. Nicely done.
 
262Species
      ID: 42011619
      Sun, May 24, 2015, 18:17
Bean's point with a month or two left in the season brought up a good point. The Hoops rules are a little vague in terms of participation/fielding a full lineup. I would like to put to a vote adding two sections to our constitution. One, the activity section from our baseball rules......and secondly, a minimum number of games played.

1) Activity section:


Activity/Unforeseen Circumstances
Activity will be monitored. Every team and circumstance is different. Not every team will want to change their lineup every day or be able to respond to every trade or answer emails immediately. Not every manager will make as many transactions (add/drops or trades) as others. Albeit, if we notice some time of inactivity or it is brought to our attention, we will address it. Please understand that we are trying to work with you to resolve the issue. You are expected to respond to all trades/emails in a timely manner whenever possible. You are also expected to keep healthy and competitive players who are playing in your active lineup. Activity on our threads in the Rotoguru boards and on our league site are encouraged and required at times for league business, including rules discussions, drafts, etc. Should unforeseen scenarios arise, the commissioners will use their best judgment to settle any matters in the best interest of the league.

2) Minimum games played

An average of 70 games played per position is required.

----------------------

Please vote yes or no to each proposal. Thanks.
 
263Perm Dude
      ID: 431013412
      Sun, May 24, 2015, 18:23
Yes to both.
 
264Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, May 24, 2015, 18:34
An average of 70 games per position only works out to a total of 560 GP, right? That seems way too low. The two teams with the lowest GP this year averaged 79.375.

560 almost seems to give tacet permission to tank. Just keep on rotating in players with off days.

I'd prefer to support a minimum much closer to 80. Even that is more than 10% below the max.

My vote at this point is:

1) Yes
2) No





 
265PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Sun, May 24, 2015, 18:41
1) Yes
2) Yes
 
266Toral
      ID: 143242315
      Sun, May 24, 2015, 19:26
1) Yes

2) Yes
 
267beastiemiked
      ID: 481162721
      Sun, May 24, 2015, 19:29
1) No
2) Yes

Our bench is four slots. The line "You are also expected to keep healthy and competitive players who are playing in your active lineup." is too rigid. I had 5 guys out with season ending injuries and it was AFTER the trade deadline. Having to drop a keeper because of injuries would've caused me to quit the league.
 
268coldwater coyotes
      ID: 325102619
      Sun, May 24, 2015, 21:01
What would be the penalty for not meeting the minimum game requirement? Loss of first round draft pick?
 
269GO
      ID: 444591621
      Sun, May 24, 2015, 23:07
1. No
2. No
I say let people manage how they want. Use whatever strategy you want.
 
270Bean
      ID: 14147911
      Mon, May 25, 2015, 00:43
My concern is that without specific definition of what constitutes "active" participation, we leave too much up to the discretion of the commish, which will inevitably be subjective.

I agree with Guru that 70 is too few.

1 Yes
2 No
 
271youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Mon, May 25, 2015, 04:56
1. yes
2. yes

70 games is better than nothing, but I am with Guru here that almost anyone in this league will reach that. a higher limit should be chosen.
 
272Bean
      ID: 14147911
      Mon, May 25, 2015, 10:16
This is what I am looking to propose for a just completed 3rd year keeper league I commish.

We currently use 82 games per position max and our min rule is below 736 GP (78 GP/pos avg) subjects you to a vote for removal. One third of the members have been below the min each year, so we have never voted.

Instead of voting for removal, I am going to propose that for each average GP under the minimum you move up one full standing position for draft purposes.

So, lets say you finished 9 of 9 in my league, but only had 911 GP (75.92 GP/pos). Since that is 2 GP below minimum, you would move up two picks in every round of the following year's draft. So for draft purposes, it's as if you finished 7th instead of 9th.

If several players are below minimum, and they are below by varying amounts, then apply the penalty to the greatest offense last (i.e. apply the penalty in descending order of total GPs).

Anyway, this has the effect of setting a goal for GPs, while having a penalty that is proportional to the severity of the offense. It can discourage tanking, without destroying parity.

 
273Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, May 25, 2015, 12:20
I like Bean's idea of implementing a draft pick penalty for inactivity/tanking. And with this type of penalty, I'd certainly argue for a MUCH higher number than 70/slot.

Teams should be competing to be the best they can be. Even if there is no chance to finish in the money, in a roto-scoring format those teams can and do have a significant impact on teams that are still competing. So I think it is important to provide all teams with an incentive to keep lineups as active as possible.

My team really sucked this year, and it was clear early on that this was a year to begin to rebuild/reload. I was conflicted in the last month or so as how to manage. I always kept 8 active players in my starting lineup, but I did not actively rotate players in/out to maximize games. This still put me at a final GP total that was higher than 7 other teams (avg. 83.75). But I readily admit that I could have gotten even more GP.

In the event that a team gets overloaded with injured players of potential keeper quality, then that manager should be able to appeal for an exemption. The commish could grant the exemption, and his decision could be overridden by majority vote, if there is an outcry against the decision.

But in most cases, I think the decision to go "inactive" is that there is no incentive to do otherwise - other than the altruistic motivation to behave in the best interests of the total league.

So, while I agree with some others that the proposed rules are marginally better than nothing, I really don't think they will have any material effect as currently framed.
 
274Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, May 25, 2015, 12:21
In fact, as currently framed, the proposed rules would have given me comfort in being less active than I was.
 
275Bean
      ID: 14147911
      Mon, May 25, 2015, 13:12
Yeah that's exactly what I was getting at Guru. I have enough to feel guilty about, to not let a fantasy league burden me too.

If there is a rule that is unambiguous, then game it all you want guilt free. It's the judging that's painful, though I do like it when you feel judged, it gives me an edge, hehehe.
 
276wolfer
      ID: 14562611
      Tue, May 26, 2015, 12:56
1. No
2. No

I also agree with GO.
 
277KnicksFan
      ID: 253112010
      Tue, May 26, 2015, 16:21
1. Yes
2. No
 
278Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Tue, May 26, 2015, 16:36
1) Yes
2) No
 
279VampireWeekend
      ID: 354152714
      Wed, May 27, 2015, 15:15
1) No
2) No
 
280Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, May 27, 2015, 17:14
[264] Changing my vote to
1) No
2) No

After some thought, I decided that proposal (1) is not only insufficient, but also unnecessary. With something along the lines of Bean's proposal in [272], who cares if there are 8 actives on each roster? Just manage to the proper minimums for GP and all is OK.
 
281Bean
      ID: 14147911
      Wed, May 27, 2015, 20:45
With an average of 80 GP/pos as a minimum, only two teams would have fallen below the threshold this year and just barely. So, I would argue that any rule that would set the minimum below 80 GP would likely make participation worse, not better.

At 82, only five teams would have been incentivized to be more active, while at least five more would likely have been less active.

I like 85 as a minimum, where eight of twenty teams would have been forced to be more active or suffer the consequences.
 
282Dave R
      ID: 254251115
      Thu, May 28, 2015, 12:47
No for both
 
283Jaydog
      ID: 45482914
      Fri, May 29, 2015, 15:08
No for both... like some of the proposed options, but no to both rules.
 
284Toral
      ID: 31482917
      Fri, May 29, 2015, 18:08
266 I change my vote to:

1) No

2) No

Shifting from supporting the commissioner to joining the herd.
 
285Meatwads
      ID: 42412305
      Sat, May 30, 2015, 06:13
I agree everything in the Activity section except for "You are also expected to keep healthy and competitive players who are playing in your active lineup." I disagree with that for the same reason as bmd stated in post #267.

I think the 70 games played limit is also too low, for the reasons Bean stated in post #281.

1. No
2. No
 
286Perm Dude
      ID: 431013412
      Sat, May 30, 2015, 14:19
Changing my votes to "no" for the many reasons stated above. Good discussion.
 
287RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 22712514
      Sun, May 31, 2015, 16:21
1. no
2. no

I like tanking. No other way to get talent in this league than to suck, or swindle someone in a trade. Tanking doesn't guarantee shit, as you will notice that neither DeMarcus Cousins, nor Anthony Davis are on my team, despite near Hinkian efforts in both of those seasons. Fn' lottery.
 
288Bean
      ID: 14147911
      Sun, May 31, 2015, 17:30
So, when you confessed to tanking, what was the penalty you received? Or is the crime somehow excusable after confession? Just have to say three "World Be Frees" and all is forgiven? I like that rule.
 
289GO
      ID: 444591621
      Sun, May 31, 2015, 22:17
We should all trade ownership of 1st Round picks before each season. Like the guys who finished 17th and 18th swap their picks the next season. They should be comparable the following year and it eliminates tanking and gives you someone to cheer against.
Anyone want to swap with me for next year?
 
290RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 5352110
      Mon, Jun 01, 2015, 01:21
hinkian...trade off all vets, gamble on youth, grab a euro-stash guy, get better draft picks. Use those picks wisely (or not, in my case). Bottom out and work your way back up. It's sucked but the team is coming back around. World B. Free.
 
291Bean
      ID: 14147911
      Mon, Jun 01, 2015, 11:11
Got Tickets for Game 4 and Game 6 of NBA finals....Go Cavs
 
292beastiemiked
      ID: 5911312710
      Mon, Jun 01, 2015, 22:36
GO, just have a reverse order. The last place team can pick who's pick they'll get next year and so forth. I bet Species would get stuck with Pete's pick :)
 
293GO
      ID: 444591621
      Mon, Jun 01, 2015, 22:41
Now THAT is brilliant! You'd have the strategy of looking at the other teams and pick the one you think is in for a rough season.
 
294GO
      ID: 444591621
      Mon, Jun 01, 2015, 22:43
and then there would be no motivation to tank... and extra motivation to beat the guy who's pick you own.
 
295Bean
      ID: 14147911
      Tue, Jun 02, 2015, 11:06
Absolutely brilliant. Imagine the embarrassment someone would suffer from being the owner chosen as most likely to Suck Seed. Now there is incentive.
 
296Bean
      ID: 14147911
      Tue, Jun 02, 2015, 11:15
We could just opt for virtual tattoos...eg. allow the 16th place team to name the 20th place team for the following year etc. Pick an embarrassment, they're all good.
 
297beastiemiked
      ID: 481162721
      Wed, Jun 03, 2015, 20:40
I'd love to claim that as one of my original idea's but I heard it on 538. Some other fun suggestions there too.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/podcast-deflategate-and-we-pick-an-nba-draft-fix-winner/
 
298RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 5352110
      Thu, Jun 04, 2015, 01:17
Anyone laying odds on Deladouchebag rolling up on Steph Curry's (formerly) brittle ankles?
 
299Bean
      ID: 14147911
      Thu, Jun 04, 2015, 09:45
Know what we call a Dellavedova 3 PT make here in Cleveland? A Deli Trey....great at watch parties. DEL-E, DEL-E, DEL-E

I got 3.5:1 for game one early in the betting, other bettors must be stupid. Standard Home Court advantage is usually 1.5:1 for equal teams. I know the players on Golden State aren't that cocky.

Go Cavs
 
300Bean
      ID: 14147911
      Thu, Jun 04, 2015, 12:30
<297> The bear is pretty good. Did you see Adam Silver's response to the "futures" proposal?
 
301RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 22712514
      Fri, Jun 05, 2015, 00:30
Deli Trey! That is awesome.
 
302Bean
      ID: 14147911
      Fri, Jun 05, 2015, 09:05
ouch
 
303Bean
      ID: 14147911
      Wed, Jun 10, 2015, 11:06
Is the proposal dead now?

Go Cavs
 
304Species
      ID: 6031912
      Mon, Jun 15, 2015, 09:53
One of these days I will take some time and count it up. Not today. Off to work........
 
305Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Jun 15, 2015, 11:16
My quick count is that proposal 1 is losing 5-9, and proposal 2 is losing 3-11.

There does seem to be some support for a more meaningful limit in proposal 1, and/or a penalty involving draft pick priority. But it may be difficult to get enough focus until the fall.
 
306RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 5352110
      Fri, Jun 26, 2015, 13:11
Pretty excited to see Plumlee in the PDX. Don't really want to see Lopez go, but if it frees up time for Plum, then I can DSL with that.
 
307GO
      ID: 432341310
      Tue, Jun 30, 2015, 11:34
Can someone post any trades still on the books for next year? Can't see at work.
 
308Perm Dude
      ID: 431013412
      Tue, Jun 30, 2015, 20:55
I don't see any trades except on the individual team pages, and those don't seem to include any picks traded.
 
309GO
      ID: 444591621
      Tue, Jun 30, 2015, 23:04
Homepage...

The following managers have had their 2015 draft picks altered via trade:
11-2-13 Meatwads receives GO's 1st for his 4th (Gay)
1-16-14 Great One receives Species' 3rd for his 6th (Dunleavy)
1-23-14 bmd receives WG's 3rd for his 6th (Gortat)
2-4-14 RSF receives Dave R's 2nd for his 3rd (Augustin)
2-7-14 RSF receives Perm Dude's 1st for his 2nd (Turner/Collison)
2-22-14 RSF receives Pete N's 2015.5th for RSF's 2015.6th (B.Roberts)
11-26-14 Toral receives Species' 4th for his 6th (D. Green)
12-17-14 Tosh receives Pete's 3rd for his 6th (Asik/W. Matthews)
12-28-14 PermDude receives Meatwads' 3rd for his 6th (Young/Green / Speights/Nene)
1-9-15 Greatone receives RSF's 1st for his 3rd (Chandler/Anderson)
1-16-15 WG receives Species' 2nd for his 6th (Gortat)
2-27-15 bmd receives Species' 1st for his 2nd (Crawford)
3-10-15 bmd receives Pete's 2nd for his 5th (J. Smoove)
 
310 PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Wed, Jul 01, 2015, 16:00
LeBron James is on the block. If you are interested, let me know.
 
311PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Thu, Jul 02, 2015, 21:40
Trade Announcement

Bean Trades:

Chris Paul
DeAndre Jordan
Bean's 2015 2nd round pick

Pete Trades:

LeBron James
Jason Terry
Bmd's 2015 5th round pick

Bean to confirm..
 
312PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Thu, Jul 02, 2015, 21:42
Trade Announcement

PD Trades:

PD's 2015 2nd round pick

Pete Trades:

Zach Randolph
Pete's 2015 4th round pick

PD to confirm..
 
313Bean
      ID: 14147911
      Thu, Jul 02, 2015, 21:50
<311> Confirmed
 
314Perm Dude
      ID: 431013412
      Thu, Jul 02, 2015, 22:55
confirmed
 
315Species
      ID: 54740122
      Thu, Jul 09, 2015, 12:19
WHOAAAAAAAA!

Guess I shpuld have read the damned board. Wowza.
 
316RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 22712514
      Fri, Jul 10, 2015, 01:52
OKC...you've got to match that Kanter offer. Show Durant that OKC isn't a bunch of cheapasses.
 
318RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 5352110
      Sat, Jul 11, 2015, 00:42
DWill...how the mighty have fallen. Here's to the miracle workers in the Dallas medical staff. Ratchet those ankles up.
 
319Species
      ID: 456182615
      Tue, Jul 28, 2015, 20:36
You may notice that I renewed the league in ESPN. Not starting any preseason business yet......just was in there so I clicked the button.

We do have some improvements / clarifications / tweaks to consider in our rules. Will probably try to get that started next month sometime.
 
320beastiemiked
      ID: 12651297
      Wed, Jul 29, 2015, 08:51
I don't believe my trade in post 227 was accounted for.
 
321Species
      ID: 456182615
      Wed, Jul 29, 2015, 10:47
320: I have some updating to do. Will get around to that and refresh the trade list here and on the league page.
 
322RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 22712514
      Thu, Jul 30, 2015, 00:39
These are not the trades you are looking for...
 
323Species
      ID: 456182615
      Thu, Jul 30, 2015, 18:43
Constitution and updated trades posted on the league homepage:

The following managers have had their 2015 draft picks altered via trade:
11-2-13 Meatwads receives GO's 1st for his 4th (Gay)
1-16-14 Great One receives Species' 3rd for his 6th (Dunleavy)
1-23-14 bmd receives WG's 3rd for his 6th (Gortat)
2-4-14 RSF receives Dave R's 2nd for his 3rd (Augustin)
2-7-14 RSF receives Perm Dude's 1st for his 2nd (Turner/Collison)
2-22-14 RSF receives Pete N's 2015.5th for RSF's 2015.6th (B.Roberts)
11-26-14 Toral receives Species' 4th for his 6th (D. Green)
12-17-14 Tosh receives Pete's 3rd for his 6th (Asik/W. Matthews)
12-28-14 PermDude receives Meatwads' 3rd for his 6th (Young/Green / Speights/Nene)
1-9-15 Greatone receives RSF's 1st for his 3rd (Chandler/Anderson)
1-16-15 WG receives Species' 2nd for his 6th (Gortat)
2-27-15 bmd receives Species' 1st for his 2nd (Crawford)
3-04-15 bmd receives Great One's 3rd (via RSF) for his 4th (M. Williams)
3-10-15 bmd receives Pete's 2nd for his 5th (J. Smoove)
7-02-15 Pete receives Bean's 2nd for bmd's 5th (LeBron / Paul / Jordan)
7-02-15 Pete receives PD's 2nd for his 4th (ZBo)
 
324Species
      ID: 456182615
      Fri, Jul 31, 2015, 13:35
We have one confirmed opening for this season. I am extending Toral's resignation from Baseball to Hoops. The "Team Ref" team that he took over from Ref is available.
 
325 twolves
      ID: 57491413
      Fri, Aug 14, 2015, 14:50
I would be intersted if there is an opening but would like to see league setup,rules,scoring, draft, etc. before decidng--ie need to look at time committment that might be needed.

 
326Species
      ID: 54740122
      Fri, Aug 14, 2015, 15:34
twolves -- rules are in post 27
 
327twolves
      ID: 37391813
      Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 14:45
Offensive rebounds? not turnovers? The numbers/points look pretty much like RIBC leagues. Anyplace to see previous draft results? I think I would be interested but remember the timberwolves are known for tanking with generally bad results especially with draft picks until very recently.
Who is on the team that might up for grabs?
 
328RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 147431821
      Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 22:43
The team formerly known as Toral
Taj Gibson, Chi PF
Trevor Booker, Uta PF
Isaiah Thomas, Bos PG, SG
Damian Lillard, Por PG, SG
Brook Lopez, Bkn C
Anthony Bennett, Min PF
Julius Randle*, LAL PF
Gerald Green, Pho SF, SG
Brandon Bass, Bos PF
Drew Gooden, Wsh PF
Kris Humphries, Wsh PF, C
Mitch McGary, OKC PF, C

A couple of nice pieces and a few other kinds of pieces. Bt hey!!! You'd build around twolves future in Bennett!
 
329twolves
      ID: 57491413
      Sat, Aug 22, 2015, 08:36
A couple of nice pieces worth keeping but not sure of much else. For leagus (ESPN?) is it 2 guards PG/SG, 2 forwards PF/SF, one center, one additional guard, one extra forward, and 3 others so 10 could play at a time? With only 12 players seems hard to get all the games in if injuries and would require a lot of pickups and drops.
What is the general thought/philosophy on who to keep in the league--highest ranked players for production or potential for the upcoming season to determine how to build team.

If I build the team around Anthony Bennett--I assume as a keeper which he must have been last year--I might be suspect of tanking, low BB IQ, or crazy brilliant(if one thinks he will play like a #1 pick) before the season started. Anyplace to view prior drafts and has draft order been determined for this year?

If Bennett had a breakout season and still on timberwolves(thoughts here are he may get traded before season starts), I would be ecstatic as the timberwolves might actually be good this year.
 
330Species
      ID: 456182615
      Sat, Aug 22, 2015, 11:31
twolves -- just 8 starters: G G F F C UT UT UT with 4 bench.
 
331twolves
      ID: 57491413
      Sat, Aug 22, 2015, 16:01
Makes sense with only 8 players and this team had only 3 eligible guards and one SF--so no position designation with guards and forwards either. Thanks.
 
332beastiemiked
      ID: 481162721
      Sat, Aug 22, 2015, 17:06
Hoops is by far the easiest sport to rebuild in. I don't think anybody has ever had a rebuild project last longer than 1 year. Our short bench forces contending teams to utilize all their slots and not have them tied up in the future with guys that might not be playing much now.
 
333twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 11:44
I am interested in filling manager position--especially now that the fantasy football draft is done can at least look forward to BB. With a large group it should be hopefully fun and interesting.