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| Posted by: Species
- [456182615] Wed, Sep 23, 2015, 11:29
Happy Autumn all! It is time to start to get our shizz together in Hoops! Some schlep won last year, so it's time to see if that moron has the skillz to stay at the top this year!
Last year's standings:
Standings
1. Endangered Species 160
2. Drummond and Curry Inc 157
3. Total Bucks Homer 137
4. SAN FORDORS 133
5. Bean's Buckeyes 126.5
6. coldwater coyotes 123.5
7. Mighty Meatwads 116
8. Hard To Be A KnicksFan 99.5
9. Jay dog 94
10. Naptown 'Nados 87
11. youngroman's Luschen 77.5
12. Wazaaap Guy 76.5
13. GO Second City Saints 74
14. beastie miked 67.5
15. Skinnee J's 65
16. Kevin Love Fan Club 60.5
17. Team Perm Dudes 60
17. Vampire Weekend 60
19. Toronto Huskies 59.5
20. Roto Guru 56
First order of business: PLEASE confirm whether you will be returning or not! We have one confirmed departure (Toral) and twolves has expressed interest. We may have another spot, so if you have friends who are interested, please have them chime in.
I'll get to proposed dates and stuff when I can.
Welcome back!!
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| | | 1 | Species
ID: 456182615
Wed, Sep 23, 2015, 11:39
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The NBA regular season starts on October 27th. Last year the draft took about 5 days. I'm considering the following schedule:
- Keeper Deadline: Friday October 16th, 12:00pm ET
- Draft turned on: Sunday October 18th, 12:00pm ET
- Clock starts: Monday October 19th, 12:00pm ET
Thoughts or concerns welcomed.
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| | | 2 | Bean
ID: 14147911
Wed, Sep 23, 2015, 11:52
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I'm in
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| | | 3 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Sep 23, 2015, 12:03
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in
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| | | 4 | wolfer
ID: 138132311
Wed, Sep 23, 2015, 12:13
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in
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| | | 5 | skinneej
ID: 478182311
Wed, Sep 23, 2015, 12:18
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In
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| | | 7 | twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Wed, Sep 23, 2015, 13:32
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In if opening. Toral Team? or yet to be determined?
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| | | 8 | youngroman
ID: 57047243
Wed, Sep 23, 2015, 13:32
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In
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| | | 9 | Species
ID: 456182615
Wed, Sep 23, 2015, 13:45
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twolves -- it depends on how many teams are available and how many nominations are put forth. We know Toral isn't returning......we'll take roll call and go from there.
Thank you for your interest.
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| | | 10 | Tosh
ID: 307102122
Wed, Sep 23, 2015, 14:19
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In
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| | | 11 | Meatwads
ID: 544371712
Wed, Sep 23, 2015, 15:11
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In
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| | | 12 | VampireWeekend
ID: 128262319
Wed, Sep 23, 2015, 20:26
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In.
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| | | 13 | PeteN.
ID: 8550318
Wed, Sep 23, 2015, 20:31
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In
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| | | 14 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 22712514
Wed, Sep 23, 2015, 20:47
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In
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| | | 15 | GO
ID: 39727167
Wed, Sep 23, 2015, 21:56
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In
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| | | 16 | WG
ID: 539431423
Thu, Sep 24, 2015, 00:33
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In
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| | | 17 | Jaydog
ID: 32747318
Thu, Sep 24, 2015, 15:52
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I'm in
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| | | 18 | Species
ID: 54740122
Thu, Sep 24, 2015, 18:43
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Yet to respond:
Dave R
KnicksFan
bmd
Perm Dude
Known to be replaced:
Toral (aka Team Ref)
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| | | 19 | Species
ID: 152521713
Fri, Sep 25, 2015, 10:38
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And FYI.........the team formerly known as Toral:
Taj Gibson, Chi PF
Trevor Booker, Uta PF
Isaiah Thomas, Bos PG, SG
Damian Lillard, Por PG, SG
Brook Lopez, Bkn C
Anthony Bennett, Min PF
Julius Randle*, LAL PF
Gerald Green, Pho SF, SG
Brandon Bass, Bos PF
Drew Gooden, Wsh PF
Kris Humphries, Wsh PF, C
Mitch McGary, OKC PF, C
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| | | 20 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Fri, Sep 25, 2015, 22:21
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in
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| | | 21 | beastiemiked
ID: 481162721
Sat, Sep 26, 2015, 14:02
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In.
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| | | 22 | Perm Dude
ID: 307141618
Sat, Sep 26, 2015, 21:16
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in
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| | | 23 | KnicksFan
ID: 368272911
Tue, Sep 29, 2015, 12:27
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In
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| | | 24 | Species
ID: 54740122
Tue, Sep 29, 2015, 14:02
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Everyone who was expected back is back! Excellent.
Before finalizing our replacement for Toral....any other nominations?
Everyone should please check Draftime. The league has been renewed so you should see our draft in their queue. Any objections with the proposed timeline in post 1??
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| | | 25 | Species
ID: 456182615
Wed, Sep 30, 2015, 10:55
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It is time to readdress our discussion for a minimum games played rule. Last year I suggested the same type of vague activity rule that we have in baseball........one that we are in the process of replacing with something concrete to avoid interpretation. As the one having to do the interpretations, I appreciate this. Many of the teams in this league have been involved in G20 leagues for years and understand/appreciate/accept the general "spirit of the league". However, we have had enough turnover and have also had enough new blood come in to suggest that a concrete rule needs to be adopted. I agree.
For a refresher, please go to last year's thread and browse from post 262 on.....particularly Bean's proposal in 272 and Guru's reply in 273.
I support Bean's proposal of an easily measurable draft position penalty if minimum GP are not met. His proposal is simple --- once a minimum GP/position are established, any manager that falls below that threshold will be assessed a penalty equal to one draft slot per average GP they are short.
Example: if we adopt an 85 GP/pos/year threshold, and 'Team A' averaged only 83 GP/pos, they would be penalized 2 slots in every round of the draft. If 'Team A' finished 15th, normally they would receive the 6th slot in the draft. They would be penalized 2 spots, and be awarded the 8th slot in the draft instead. This penalty would be applied prior to the creation of the draft lottery and assigning of virtual ping pong balls.
The league is trying to both promote more activity and deter 'tanking' for better draft position. I believe this effectively does both.
To start.......we'd need to establish the minimum. As noted in last year's thread, post 281, at 82 GP/pos only 5 teams would have needed to be incentivized to be more active. At 85 GP/pos, 8 teams would have needed to be more active.
I personally would start at 85 GP/pos.
I would like a bit of discussion before finalizing the minimum GP/pos and the wording of the rule.
One question for the group -- where is 'the line' for a 'full round' penalty. In my example above, if we adopted an 85 GP/pos minimum, and a team is at 83.01 GP/pos, I think that is only one round. Anything from 82.01 - 83.00 is 2 rounds, etc. In other words, you have to reach a full integer before another round of penalty is applied.
Thoughts? Thanks.
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| | | 26 | youngroman
ID: 57047243
Wed, Sep 30, 2015, 14:13
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number of teams that would have reached the avg games goal, stats since 2009, 2012-stats are reduced by 16 games
80: 17, 19, 19, 18, 15, 14, 18
81: 16, 19, 19, 18, 15, 13, 17
82: 16, 17, 19, 18, 15, 13, 15
83: 16, 15, 19, 18, 15, 13, 15
84: 16, 14, 17, 14, 13, 12, 12
85: 16, 14, 17, 13, 13, 12, 12
86: 13, 12, 14, 12, 13, 11, 12
87: 12, 12, 14, 9, 12, 11, 9
88: 8, 12, 12, 6, 11, 10, 7
89: 5, 8, 9, 4, 7, 8, 5
90: 0, 1, 2, 0, 3, 4, 3
I don't see a huge change in these numbers other than that 2013 + 2014 had more teams below 80 games.
minimum games over the years:
74.75, 79.875, 77.25, 59.875, 71.625, 68.875, 79.375
average games over the years:
85.9375, 86.7125, 87.43125, 69.7375, 85.18125, 84.275, 85.79375
the easiest to enforce rule would be if the minimum number of games per fantasy team needs to be the average number of regular season games per real life team + x. this would usually be 82+x games, but would have also covered the 2012 season or if any team plays less games than others, for whatever reason. I also think that for getting a draft slot penalty you need to be 1 game off the mark, so with a target of 85 games you could go for 84.125 and you would be safe. GP could also be the 1st tie-breaker before we flip a coin to determine draft order if 2 teams had the same number of points.
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| | | 27 | Meatwads
ID: 544371712
Wed, Sep 30, 2015, 17:07
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Anywhere from 82-85 GP/pos seems about right to me. Over half the league is already reaching that threshold on a consistent basis, so it shouldn't be too difficult for most managers to get there.
My only concern about making a minimum games played is forcing rebuilding teams to cut players that may become keepers for them in order to stream random players sitting out on the free agents deep into the season.
As an example, if I recall correctly, bmd was devastated by injuries to several key players last season. It seems like him being forced to cut even one of those potential keepers for a scrub, while sitting in 14th place would hurt his team long term.
Of course this could be avoided by adding a couple DL spots. I'm sure the idea of DL slots has been brought up several times throughout the years. I'm also sure there is a good reason as to why we don't want to use DL slots so I doubt it's an idea that would pass.
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| | | 28 | Bean
ID: 14147911
Wed, Sep 30, 2015, 17:30
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<27> If the number of injuries is high, and assuming there is no DL then the owner can respond without giving up his top players.
1) This is basketball, not baseball, the teams only play every other day and streaming is much easier UNLESS you wait til the end of the season to do it.
2) Even if there are a ton of late season injuries, the owner can just accept the penalty and press on. Afterall, if he didn't get the injuries and consequently missed the games, he would have finished higher in the standings and therefore doesnt really need the "parity" bump.
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| | | 29 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Sep 30, 2015, 18:22
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Is a DL slot even plausible? I don't think the NBA has a disabled list anymore.
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| | | 30 | GO
ID: 39727167
Wed, Sep 30, 2015, 21:09
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Correct, there is no official Injured List in NBA anymore so its all very open to interpretation.
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| | | 31 | Species
ID: 456182615
Thu, Oct 01, 2015, 19:20
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Meatwads does have a point in post 27, but even bmd would admit it was a pretty far outlier and unlikely to happen on a frequent basis. It is worth acknowledging but IMO that legit example shouldn't deter us from a rule change/clarification that will have very positive influence on making the league as competitive as possible.
The NBA regular season starts on October 27th. Last year the draft took about 5 days. I'm considering the following schedule:
- Keeper Deadline: Friday October 16th, 12:00pm ET
- Draft turned on: Sunday October 18th, 12:00pm ET
- Clock starts: Monday October 19th, 12:00pm ET
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| | | 32 | Species
ID: 456182615
Thu, Oct 01, 2015, 19:36
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Welcome twolves to G20 hoops. I have sent you a team owner invite in ESPN. Please sign in and feel free to take control of your team effective immediately.
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| | | 33 | Pacers Rule
ID: 3919122
Thu, Oct 01, 2015, 23:19
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Thanks everyone for years of good competition. It's a good league. Good luck Wolfer.
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| | | 34 | twolves
ID: 57491413
Sat, Oct 03, 2015, 08:10
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Thanks--it should be fun. Are last years results/standings found anywhere that show specific category numbers? I joined the ESPN league but I need the drafttime info/directions to sign in there.
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| | | 35 | twolves
ID: 57491413
Sat, Oct 03, 2015, 08:32
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I did find the prior years results. I assume Team Ref was Toronto Huskies last year but not sure about which team from the year before that
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| | | 36 | Species
ID: 54740122
Sat, Oct 03, 2015, 11:45
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35: In previous years it was Ref's team.....I think it was 3 Blind Mice. Just look for Dirk Nowitzki (GO dig there)!!
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| | | 37 | Species
ID: 54740122
Sat, Oct 03, 2015, 11:46
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33: Thanks PR for your years of competition! Looks like I should take him off as a co-owner.....wolfer??
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| | | 38 | Meatwads
ID: 544371712
Mon, Oct 05, 2015, 10:21
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Since we're getting close to the keeper deadline I want to let everyone know what's available on my team. It looks like I have 8 players being drafted inside the top 100, so it's pretty safe to assume I have 2 extra keeper worthy players.
At this point, I'm leaning towards making Korver and Rondo available for draft pick swaps to the highest bidder. I might be willing to consider dealing Rose or Dieng in the right deal as well, but other keepers would need to be involved. I'd also be open to doing a 3-for-1 similar to the Carmelo deal that just went down. It seems fairly unlikely I'll be dealing Aldridge, Wiggins, Monroe or Jackson.
Anyone interested in upgrading their keepers, feel free to send me an email. I'll start sending out emails within the next couple days to any managers that I think might be open to an upgrade.
michaelpatrickrichards@gmail.com
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| | | 39 | Species
ID: 54740122
Mon, Oct 05, 2015, 13:35
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Sent Guru the draft grid for posting. With baseball over....and the grid posted....hopefully we will see some action.
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| | | 41 | Species
ID: 54740122
Mon, Oct 05, 2015, 17:38
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Thanks Guru.
I have also let Guru know he can run the lottery at any time. We run it without regard to traded picks. GO and PD traded their lottery picks, but we keep their names in the lottery and apply trades afterwards. So....if PD wins the lottery....RSF benefits.
I am going to write a GP proposal in line with Bean's recommendation, and will use an 85 game minimum. We need that voted on before the season to implement immediately.
Any other rule changes/updates in need of addressing?
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| | | 42 | GO
ID: 1585278
Mon, Oct 05, 2015, 21:15
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Anyone interested in trading 1st rounders next year? My end result is just to have somebody else's pick other than mine. Meatwads benefits with my lottery pick this year.
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| | | 43 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 11:46
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I need to be very transparent with the lottery run this year, since I am in the "pole position." Here are the selection odds for each team: | Mighty Meatwads | 0.50% | | Hard To Be A KnicksFan | 0.70% | | Jay dog | 1.00% | | Naptown 'Nados | 1.30% | | youngroman's Luschen | 1.80% | | Wazaaap Guy | 2.40% | | GO Second City Saints | 3.20% | | beastie miked | 4.40% | | Skinnee J's | 5.90% | | Kevin Love Fan Club | 8.10% | | Team Perm Dudes | 12.85% | | Vampire Weekend | 12.85% | | Toronto Huskies | 20.00% | | Roto Guru | 25.00% | These odds are applied using a simulated "ping pong ball" method, where four random numbers are selected from 1-14, and each 4-number combination is mapped to a specific team. A spreadsheet with all of these mappings is posted here. I use random.org to supply the sets of random numbers. Copies of these random number sets will be sent directly from the generating script to several managers, for audit purposes - Species, youngroman, Ref, and Toral. I'll plan to run this sometime early this afternoon.
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| | | 44 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 14:33
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Well, this sucks.
Lottery results:
Pick #1: Kevin Love Fan Club (4-6-11-13)
Pick #2: Youngroman (4-5-6-11)
Pick #3: Mighty Meatwads (4-5-11-12)
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| | | 45 | Species
ID: 54740122
Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 14:46
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Been there.....done that!!
Sorry Guru. Congrats Meatwads.
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| | | 46 | twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 16:53
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I agree that sucks. AS newcomer looks terrible but cannot say fixed or conspiricy as first time seeing this in operation. Congrats to the lottery winners
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| | | 47 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 23:05
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After being screwed so many times in the lottery, I have to say that I am happy to have finally moved up!
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| | | 48 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5352110
Wed, Oct 07, 2015, 00:00
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Did I just go from fourth to sixteenth or something??
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| | | 49 | Meatwads
ID: 544371712
Thu, Oct 08, 2015, 11:15
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@ Species - Thanks! I feel very fortunate to have beaten such unlikely odds to land in the top 3. Maybe now would be a good time to start researching some players I didn't expect to have a shot at.
@ Tosh - Congratulations on getting the #1 pick this season. Maybe there's someone out there that can become a franchise cornerstone for you. :)
@ Everyone - I am open to trading any of my picks in the right deal. And also to anyone that missed my earlier post, Kyle Korver and Rajon Rondo are available for pick upgrades or as part of a 3-for-1 package that includes Derrick Rose or Gorgui Dieng.
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| | | 50 | Species
ID: 11730119
Thu, Oct 08, 2015, 18:29
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I am putting forth our minimum GP rule as follows:
Minimum GP:
A team must accumulate a minimum of 680 GP (85 GP/pos) over the course of a season. For each 8 games of shortfall (1 GP/pos), a team is assigned one demerit. Demerits will be integer values only. Thus, a team with 1-8 games of shortfall will receive one demerit, 9-16 will receive 2 demerits, etc.
If a team finishes “in the money” for prize pool purposes (ranked 1-6), then demerits will be ignored.
For lottery teams, the following penalties will be applied to every pick in the next year’s supplement draft:
If a team accumulates more than 10 demerits, then it will be removed from the lottery and assigned the 14th pick in all rounds (i.e., behind all lottery teams, but ahead of any prize pool teams.)
For teams with less than 10 demerits, that team is pushed forward one place in the supplemental draft rankings for each demerit. For example, if a team finishes in last place (20th) and has 5 demerits, then that team will be treated in the draft rankings as though it finished in 15th place (and the teams actually finishing in places 16-20 will each move down one place.)
If more than one lottery team has a demerit, then the lottery rankings will be successively applied starting with the worst finisher and then moving up to the next worst finisher, etc.
Rationale: the primary incentive for a team to fall short of GP or IP minimums is to improve draft standing for the following year.
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| | | 52 | Species
ID: 11730119
Thu, Oct 08, 2015, 20:02
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Guru - I used youngroman's data in post 26. At most 8 teams would've had to increase their activity.
Like my rationale in the baseball thread, I kind of put a maximum of 10 as a general thought as to how many teams I wanted to have to increase their activity. It looks like at 85 games it required 8 teams to step it up.
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| | | 53 | beastiemiked
ID: 5911312710
Thu, Oct 08, 2015, 23:14
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That's crazy. We already have short benches(only 33% of our guys are bench) and then we want to add a minimum that's ABOVE the GP for an NBA team? That's over 8.5 starters that play EVERY game. The rule would totally screw managers that get hit with serious injuries and/or trying to stash a guy away for next year. Not starting a player would be asking for trouble later in the season. I think teams should have to make decisions on if Player A is good enough to start rather than I HAVE to start Player A even if he projects to have 8 minutes.
I propose we lower the games played limit to 82 games per position. 90 is way too many for the depth of our bench. With 7 counting categories it kills any team with injuries. My official rule proposal is "Should we lower the maximum number of games per position?" If that passes then we can have a run off on by how much they should be lowered. Have 3 tiers of new proposed games per position 87, 85, and 82.
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| | | 54 | Species
ID: 54740122
Thu, Oct 08, 2015, 23:58
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bmd: We noticed you had a crazy number of injuries last year......but it is my opinion (just 1 of 20) that it was a pretty rare instance. As noted, only 8 teams would have needed to increase GP to hit the 85 GP minimum.
Basketball is way easier to stream players and go over the 82 games per position. I wonder if the 90 game max is too low, personally, but figured getting the minimum GP rule in was a higher priority.
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| | | 55 | youngroman
ID: 57047243
Fri, Oct 09, 2015, 06:05
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totals for team 1 in 2015
just change the teamId (1-20) and seasonId (2009-2015) parameter to whatever you want to see the stats. if you want the totals in a handy excel just email me and I send it over.
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| | | 56 | PeteN.
ID: 8550318
Fri, Oct 09, 2015, 07:45
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Bean / PD - I went ahead and proposed the agreed offseason trades on ESPN.
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| | | 57 | Bean
ID: 14147911
Fri, Oct 09, 2015, 10:02
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Accepted
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| | | 58 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Oct 09, 2015, 10:17
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Updated with lottery results: | | Round 1 | Round 2 | Round 3 | Round 4 | Round 5 | Round 6 | | 1 | Tosh | Guru | Guru | Guru | Guru | Guru | | 2 | youngroman | twolves | twolves | twolves | twolves | Species | | 3 | Meatwads | Vampire | Vampire | Vampire | Vampire | Vampire | | 4 | Guru | Pete N. | Perm Dude | Perm Dude | Perm Dude | Meatwads | | 5 | twolves | Tosh | Tosh | Tosh | Tosh | Pete N. | | 6 | Vampire | skinneej | skinneej | skinneej | skinneej | skinneej | | 7 | RSF | Species | bmd | RSF | Bean | WG | | 8 | skinneej | GreatOne | bmd | GreatOne | GreatOne | Species | | 9 | bmd | WG | bmd | WG | WG | Species | | 10 | Meatwads | youngroman | youngroman | youngroman | youngroman | youngroman | | 11 | WG | wolfer | wolfer | wolfer | wolfer | wolfer | | 12 | wolfer | Jaydog | Jaydog | Jaydog | Jaydog | Jaydog | | 13 | Jaydog | KnicksFan | KnicksFan | KnicksFan | KnicksFan | KnicksFan | | 14 | KnicksFan | Meatwads | Perm Dude | GreatOne | Meatwads | Meatwads | | 15 | coldwater | coldwater | coldwater | coldwater | coldwater | coldwater | | 16 | Bean | Pete N. | Bean | Bean | Bean | Bean | | 17 | Dave R. | RSF | Dave R. | Dave R. | Dave R. | Dave R. | | 18 | GreatOne | Perm Dude | Dave R. | RSF | RSF | Pete N. | | 19 | Pete N. | bmd | Tosh | Perm Dude | RSF | Pete N. | | 20 | bmd | WG | GreatOne | twolves | Species | Species | | | | | | | | |
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| | | 59 | KnicksFan
ID: 368272911
Fri, Oct 09, 2015, 10:27
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I'll take draft pick upgrade or keeper offers for Dwight Howard.
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| | | 60 | Pacers Rule
ID: 3919122
Fri, Oct 09, 2015, 19:09
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37: You're welcome. You're a great commish. And yes, you may remove me from the team. Wolfer has it covered. Best of luck all.
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| | | 61 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5352110
Sat, Oct 10, 2015, 11:39
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Where's the juicy bits on the Perm Dude trade?
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| | | 62 | PeteN.
ID: 8550318
Sat, Oct 10, 2015, 12:49
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61: I acquired PD's 2nd for my 5th.
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| | | 63 | PeteN.
ID: 8550318
Sat, Oct 10, 2015, 13:37
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Correction to post 62. PD acquired my 4th
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| | | 64 | Species
ID: 11730119
Sat, Oct 10, 2015, 14:02
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I wasn't very clear. I am putting forth our minimum GP rule for a league vote as follows:
Minimum GP:
A team must accumulate a minimum of 680 GP (85 GP/pos) over the course of a season. For each 8 games of shortfall (1 GP/pos), a team is assigned one demerit. Demerits will be integer values only. Thus, a team with 1-8 games of shortfall will receive one demerit, 9-16 will receive 2 demerits, etc.
If a team finishes “in the money” for prize pool purposes (ranked 1-6), then demerits will be ignored.
For lottery teams, the following penalties will be applied to every pick in the next year’s supplement draft:
If a team accumulates more than 10 demerits, then it will be removed from the lottery and assigned the 14th pick in all rounds (i.e., behind all lottery teams, but ahead of any prize pool teams.)
For teams with less than 10 demerits, that team is pushed forward one place in the supplemental draft rankings for each demerit. For example, if a team finishes in last place (20th) and has 5 demerits, then that team will be treated in the draft rankings as though it finished in 15th place (and the teams actually finishing in places 16-20 will each move down one place.)
If more than one lottery team has a demerit, then the lottery rankings will be successively applied starting with the worst finisher and then moving up to the next worst finisher, etc.
Rationale: the primary incentive for a team to fall short of GP or IP minimums is to improve draft standing for the following year.
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| | | 65 | Perm Dude
ID: 431013412
Sat, Oct 10, 2015, 14:12
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Which is it? 85 G/p or 680 GP?
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| | | 66 | twolves
ID: 57491413
Sat, Oct 10, 2015, 18:00
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AS newcomer, it seems a bit ridculous argument and need to vote for anything more that number of regular season games--82 to be played per position. I think there should be an accommodation made to the demerit system for injured players on rosters based on how many days our due to injury as it is hard to drop a real "keeper" during the season the way league is set up or am I wrong? in the GP formula, It sounds like "tanking" has been a problem??
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| | | 67 | PeteN.
ID: 8550318
Sat, Oct 10, 2015, 18:05
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I'd be in favor of a min of 82 GP/pos, but not 85.
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| | | 68 | Meatwads
ID: 544371712
Sat, Oct 10, 2015, 20:11
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As I previously wrote in post 27, anywhere between 82-85 GP/pos is fine with me. Whatever the majority of managers wants in that range, I will vote for.
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| | | 69 | twolves
ID: 57491413
Sun, Oct 11, 2015, 10:01
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I also think based on roster size that a max of 88 games(if I am reading right) which is allowed now is too much. I think it makes it more sense and interesting strategy at the end where some teams have fewer games to play. I like making it max 84 since on ESPN (or Yahoo) you can still get few extra games to count by using the system or does that not happen in this league?
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| | | 70 | Perm Dude
ID: 431013412
Sun, Oct 11, 2015, 12:58
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Can someone clarify max number of GP? Is it 720 for each active position (i.e., 90 games for Center position, 180 each for Guard and Forward positions, and 270 for Util position)?
If so, and we have a min number of GP as Species has suggested, that means for the Center position we need to have played between 85 and 90 GP (inclusive), for example?
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| | | 71 | twolves
ID: 57491413
Sun, Oct 11, 2015, 13:44
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If it is like other ESPN BB games if the league limit is set at 88 then my guess if center has only one player the max is 88 and will say that. You cannot get any more. If guard and forward are not specified but grouped then ESPN may allow 176 total in grouping and utility will say 264 since any 3 players. You may be able to get extra game(s) when number is grouped usually.
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| | | 72 | GO
ID: 39727167
Sun, Oct 11, 2015, 13:55
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If I remember correctly... ESPN doesn't count games by individual position. At least not the way we have it set up.
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| | | 73 | Species
ID: 54740122
Sun, Oct 11, 2015, 16:30
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65: My intention in my proposal is 680 total game minimum. This equates to an average of 85 GP/pos. But you are not required to get 85 games at center (for example).....just hit the total minimum.
Our rules do limit max games at 720. This IS tracked by the website on a 90 games per position basis. I realize there is a disconnect there....but to me, since the site does track total GP during the year, wording our rule as a minimum number of total games (without concern for each position) makes it easier for all teams to track and offers greater flexibility on how you get there.
I reached the 85 GP number by using youngroman's data. Only 8 or 9 teams needed to pick up the pace over the past two years -- so 680 games should not be that daunting.
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| | | 74 | twolves
ID: 57491413
Sun, Oct 11, 2015, 17:23
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I am not sure why the emphasis on games played beyond 82 (regular season if your player stayed healthy the whole season) unless tanking by not playing games has been an issue at the bottom. FT and FG % not effected. Also are you going to monitor who plays those games since it seems to me you would get same effect as playing the rookies or subs as teams do.
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| | | 76 | Bean
ID: 14147911
Wed, Oct 14, 2015, 02:30
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Umm when are keepers due, how are they communicated and when does draft start?
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| | | 77 | Perm Dude
ID: 431013412
Wed, Oct 14, 2015, 09:05
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We usually have a separate thread for keepers. Time to get one up, I think.
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| | | 78 | twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Wed, Oct 14, 2015, 13:58
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Where does the draft take place? Draft time? Is it up yet to to join?
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| | | 79 | beastiemiked
ID: 5911312710
Wed, Oct 14, 2015, 22:28
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I'm looking to add at least 1 keeper. I've got 2 1st rounders, a late 2nd rounder, and 3 3rd rounders. Shoot me an offer. Would prefer young guys but am open to older guys as well.
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| | | 80 | Species
ID: 11730119
Wed, Oct 14, 2015, 22:51
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Draft will be held on Draftime. I sent twolves a link.
The keeper deadline timing was communicated to the league both on September 23rd and October 1st in this thread. Admittedly this has seemed to sneak up on a lot of people!
- Keeper Deadline: Friday October 16th, 12:00pm ET
- Draft turned on: Sunday October 18th, 12:00pm ET
- Clock starts: Monday October 19th, 12:00pm ET
Official Keepers will be declared within our keeper thread. However, you MUST mark your keepers on your ESPN team page as well!! It is below your team name and has Friday's deadline!!!!!!!!!!
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| | | 81 | KnicksFan
ID: 368272911
Thu, Oct 15, 2015, 11:19
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Vampire weekend, I sent you an offer via ESPN.
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| | | 82 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Oct 15, 2015, 15:21
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From the league treasurer:
DUES NOTICE FOR 2015-16
Prize pool dues for 2015-16 will again be $15. Your payment is due by the end of the league draft. If you do not pay by then, I reserve the right to hound you privately and ridicule you publicly!
For those new to the league, the pool is funded by annual $15 donations from each participating manager. The top six teams receive payouts, based on the total size of the pool. The league champ typically wins about $100, while the sixth place team gets $15.
There is no trophy pool assessment this year, as the trophy fund is still adequate for this year. (The league champ is eligible to receive a trophy each year).
One member has permanently opted out of the prize pool: Perm Dude. The other 17 returning managers are in the pool, and expected to contribute each year. The two newest managers will need to decide whether to participate. In the past, we have allowed new managers to wait until the start of their second year to decide. That decision then becomes binding for all future seasons (i.e., you cannot opt in or out from year to year). Twolves has already indicate his check is in the mail. Bean must decide whether he is in for this year. (He opted out in his first season.)
Several managers have ample funds on account (from prior winnings) to fully cover dues, and therefore do not need to pay this season:
Dave R
RSF
Species
Tosh
BMD
WG
Youngroman
Some managers have enough funds on account to cover a partial payment, so they only owe the following for this season:
Meatwad: owes $5
Jaydog: owes $11
Everyone else owes the full $15.
You may send your payment in one of two ways:
1. Mail a check for $15. Use the address on the GuruPatron donation page (near the bottom).
The check should be payable to Dave Hall.
2. Paypal
Send to davehall@rotoguru2.com. Designate your payment as "sending money to family or friends." If you include a note, just say "G20 payment".
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| | | 83 | beastiemiked
ID: 34951411
Thu, Oct 15, 2015, 21:30
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Bmd trades 3.07
CC trades Zach Lavine and 6.15
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| | | 84 | Coldwater coyotes
ID: 258392311
Thu, Oct 15, 2015, 21:40
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83 agreed
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| | | 85 | Species
ID: 11730119
Thu, Oct 15, 2015, 23:30
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Get that in ESPN so you can include Lavine in your keeps!
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| | | 87 | Species
ID: 11730119
Fri, Oct 16, 2015, 10:45
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Trade:
Species gets Deron Williams and RSF's 2016 6th.
RSF gets Species' 2016 4th.
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| | | 88 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5352110
Fri, Oct 16, 2015, 10:54
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Yep, that's the deal. Sad to part ways with ya, but it was time Deron.
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| | | 89 | beastiemiked
ID: 34951411
Fri, Oct 16, 2015, 13:35
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Thanks to whoever marked Lavine as a keeper.
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| | | 90 | KnicksFan
ID: 368272911
Fri, Oct 16, 2015, 15:31
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Screw all of you for making me get stuck with Dwight Howard for the 12th year in a row!
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| | | 91 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Oct 16, 2015, 16:56
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So I guess GO and WG aren't keeping anyone this year?
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| | | 92 | Species
ID: 11730119
Fri, Oct 16, 2015, 19:39
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91: In response to a trade inquiry, GO gave me his tentative keepers. Then this morning, realized he couldn't mark his keepers on the ESPN app and asked me to mark them. I was unavailable.
His keepers are:
Lawson
Nowitzki
D. Lee
R. Anderson
Gay
Knight
I know WG was traveling outside the country. Still, he should've had his schizz together. Per our rules, if you don't designate your own keepers, they will be chosen for you. I will review.
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| | | 93 | Meatwads
ID: 544371712
Fri, Oct 16, 2015, 20:03
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For what it's worth, I did see WG's team page the night before with 6 players in his lineup. If my memory serves me correctly it was...
Kevin Durant
Paul Millsap
Gordon Hayward
George Hill
Jordan Clarkson
C.J. McCollum
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| | | 94 | Species
ID: 11730119
Sat, Oct 17, 2015, 06:01
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93: That's what we're going with.
I "ended" the draft......so all of the available players are on waivers. Entering keeps into Draftime and will get that open today.
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| | | 95 | Species
ID: 11730119
Sat, Oct 17, 2015, 07:25
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Ok........the keepers are all entered in Draftime. Hopefully I entered the keepers correctly......please review both picks and keepers for accuracy.
Feel free to make picks.......but no one is obligated to do so. Clock starts Monday.
Once players are off of waivers, each team must pick up their players from ESPN!
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| | | 96 | beastiemiked
ID: 34951411
Sat, Oct 17, 2015, 10:19
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Thanks Species!
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| | | 97 | PeteN.
ID: 8550318
Sat, Oct 17, 2015, 16:19
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Thanks Species!
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| | | 98 | Perm Dude
ID: 431013412
Sat, Oct 17, 2015, 22:23
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Among other sources, I make use of RotoWire's hoops draft software. Thought you guys might find it interesting, after just the keepers, the projected standings:
Pete 150 points
Dave R 146
bmd 125.5
youngroman 124
Meatwads 111.5
Jaydog 110.5
coldwater 99
WG 98.5
skinneej 95.5
KnicksFan 94
bean 91.5
RSF 87
wolfer 82
PermDude 76
twolves 75.5
GreatOne 72
Tosh 69
vampire 66
RotoGuru 58.5
Species 58
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| | | 99 | Species
ID: 11730119
Sat, Oct 17, 2015, 23:00
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Welcome to the 2015 Gurupie 20 Supplemental Draft. While the draft is on, no one is under ANY obligation to pick between now and Monday. This is a good time for some self-auditing:
- Please check your keepers for accuracy ("All picks" link)
- Please check your draft picks for accuracy
Please also note that the ESPN player universe trumps Draftime in ONE sense: if a player is in ESPNs database but is not in Draftimes database, you CAN draft him. Just use the free-form entry system to do so. See above - our prospect list trumps Draftime and ESPN.
Conversely, if someone shows up in Draftime but IS NOT in ESPN, he is NOT eligible to be drafted.
Report in-draft trades of picks here. Guru and myself are Draftime admins and can enter those trades.
When you make a pick, PLEASE PICK UP YOUR PLAYERS IN ESPN. We all get frustrated when we see a player we want in ESPN that has actually been drafted. Do your part by picking them up. We all have phones that can do that.
Questions? Please post!
GOOD LUCK to everyone!
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| | | 100 | Species
ID: 11730119
Sat, Oct 17, 2015, 23:19
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98: I think you forgot my keepers, PD. :)
No way my 6 keepers are dead last.
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| | | 101 | Species
ID: 11730119
Sat, Oct 17, 2015, 23:48
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I am amending our minimum GP rule proposal down to 656 games (82 games played/POS) and calling for a vote:
Minimum GP:
A team must accumulate a minimum of 656 GP (82 GP/pos) over the course of a season. For each 8 games of shortfall (1 GP/pos), a team is assigned one demerit. Demerits will be integer values only. Thus, a team with 1-8 games of shortfall will receive one demerit, 9-16 will receive 2 demerits, etc.
If a team finishes “in the money” for prize pool purposes (ranked 1-6), then demerits will be ignored.
For lottery teams, the following penalties will be applied to every pick in the next year’s supplement draft:
If a team accumulates more than 10 demerits, then it will be removed from the lottery and assigned the 14th pick in all rounds (i.e., behind all lottery teams, but ahead of any prize pool teams.)
For teams with less than 10 demerits, that team is pushed forward one place in the supplemental draft rankings for each demerit. For example, if a team finishes in last place (20th) and has 5 demerits, then that team will be treated in the draft rankings as though it finished in 15th place (and the teams actually finishing in places 16-20 will each move down one place.)
If more than one lottery team has a demerit, then the lottery rankings will be successively applied starting with the worst finisher and then moving up to the next worst finisher, etc.
Rationale: the primary incentive for a team to fall short of GP or IP minimums is to improve draft standing for the following year.
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| | | 102 | PeteN.
ID: 8550318
Sun, Oct 18, 2015, 09:58
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I vote yes for proposal outlined in 101
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| | | 103 | beastiemiked
ID: 34951411
Sun, Oct 18, 2015, 10:38
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No way my keepers are 3rd.
I vote yes.
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| | | 104 | youngroman
ID: 57047243
Sun, Oct 18, 2015, 12:05
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re 98: I would love to see these standings after the draft. right now it depends on if you kept a balanced team or not.
re 101: I vote yes
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| | | 105 | Meatwads
ID: 544371712
Sun, Oct 18, 2015, 13:12
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I vote yes.
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| | | 106 | Perm Dude
ID: 431013412
Sun, Oct 18, 2015, 17:52
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I vote yes.
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| | | 107 | GO
ID: 432341310
Sun, Oct 18, 2015, 18:23
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YES
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| | | 108 | GO
ID: 39727167
Sun, Oct 18, 2015, 18:29
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If there is a contender out there interested in Dirk, David Lee and upcoming pick 1.18 I'm open to selling all of them.
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| | | 109 | Perm Dude
ID: 431013412
Sun, Oct 18, 2015, 19:31
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#104: Sure. I track the draft in the software as well.
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| | | 110 | coldwater coyotes
ID: 499401819
Sun, Oct 18, 2015, 20:41
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yes
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| | | 111 | skinneej
ID: 14911313
Sun, Oct 18, 2015, 20:58
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Yes
Still not able to get into Kafenatid for the draft. I emailed to reset password, but I cannot access my old work email that I originally signed up with.
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| | | 112 | Twolves
ID: 19961820
Sun, Oct 18, 2015, 21:07
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Can you go directly to draft time sports draft online and use ID and password should get you to the right place.if you are signed in
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| | | 113 | Species
ID: 54740122
Sun, Oct 18, 2015, 21:24
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111 -- then post who you want for now and we will override.
Email KKB: fred@kafenatid.net (or is it .com?)
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| | | 114 | twolves
Dude
ID: 811161317
Mon, Oct 19, 2015, 10:49
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What is the max number allowed currently? Is that up for discussion, too?
For minimum number I would vote yes as better than alternative. I assume it means can have more games at forward and less at g or c or utility) and still reach minimum (or any combination).
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| | | 115 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Oct 19, 2015, 11:08
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[111] you are using draftime.com, and not kafenatid.net, correct?
I usually find this email works well:
contact.us@draftime.com
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| | | 116 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Oct 19, 2015, 11:09
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And I'll vote yes.
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| | | 117 | skinneej
ID: 478182311
Mon, Oct 19, 2015, 11:19
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Guru, yes it was actually Draftime and not Kafenatid - I was trying to do it on my phone while I was on the road this weekend and kept getting errors. I was finally able to get in, but it didn't help that I couldn't reset my password due to an old email address. All good now and I updated my profile!
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| | | 118 | Species
ID: 54740122
Mon, Oct 19, 2015, 11:23
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I vote yes on 101. It passes.
I turned the clock on 45 minutes early. I will be in a meeting at Noon and didn't want to miss getting the clock rolling.
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| | | 119 | Species
ID: 54740122
Mon, Oct 19, 2015, 11:29
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114: Max is 720 games (90 gp/pos)
Anything is up for discussion. Setting a tangible minimum with penalties for comkng up short have been hot topics in both baseball and hoops....and we have passed rules for both this month. You are welcomed to dig deeper into max games (or anything else) if you'd like.
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| | | 120 | Species
ID: 11730119
Mon, Oct 19, 2015, 14:41
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wolfer is having trouble getting into Draftime. The account that is attached to G20 was Pacers Rule's old account (although wolfer had access to it last year). I have asked him who his pick is, and advised him to reach out to Draftime support.
I don't know if I can kick out the old PR account and put him in at this point......
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| | | 121 | GO
ID: 432341310
Mon, Oct 19, 2015, 17:43
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Thanks for inquiries. Happy with Cauley Stein.
Dirk and Lee still available.
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| | | 122 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Oct 19, 2015, 18:33
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[82] Treasurer update
The following still owe $15:
Coldwater Coyotes
Vampire Weekend
Skinneej
Also, Meatwads owes $5
Everyone else has paid.
If you've sent a check, please let me know.
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| | | 123 | PeteN.
ID: 8550318
Mon, Oct 19, 2015, 18:59
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I just got home from work and will pick shortly. Sorry for the delay.
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| | | 124 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5352110
Mon, Oct 19, 2015, 20:16
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Damn...I forgot Paul Pierce was still alive and in the league.
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| | | 125 | beastiemiked
ID: 34951411
Mon, Oct 19, 2015, 20:42
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Will pick in a bit.
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| | | 126 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 22712514
Mon, Oct 19, 2015, 21:15
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Then again, I'm pretty sure Tyson Chandler is a reanimated corpse, concocted by BALCO plus the Dallas and Phoenix medical staffs
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| | | 127 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5352110
Tue, Oct 20, 2015, 00:22
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I officially hate GO.
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| | | 128 | skinneej
ID: 478182311
Tue, Oct 20, 2015, 10:12
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[122] payment sent thru paypal
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| | | 129 | GO
ID: 432341310
Tue, Oct 20, 2015, 10:25
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So how did I get Cauley-Stein anyway? did anyone else almost take him? Seems like too far to fall to me for what he does. Were you all doing best player available or going for need?
I am guessing RSF want the Bucks shot blocker? I am not married to him so make an offer. I actually had him in there Que specific thinking I would get a shooter first round.
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| | | 130 | Species
ID: 11730119
Tue, Oct 20, 2015, 11:26
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129: Great question. Also wondered why Justise Winslow fell to 2.07.
It was nice drafting with you. I will be back at 5.20 to DOMINATE the end of the draft --- 5 out of the last 21 picks :)
PS - sorry I forgot to activate the overnight draft pause. That has been fixed.
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| | | 131 | Bean
ID: 14147911
Tue, Oct 20, 2015, 11:34
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<129> I was on the fence between Kaminsky and Cauley-Stein at 1.16. Cauley-Stein is projected to start, but I like Kaminsky's stretch 4 game more, and think he has a chance to be more valuable over the long haul.
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| | | 132 | coldwater coyotes
ID: 499401819
Tue, Oct 20, 2015, 11:39
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$$$$ will be leaving California for Connecticut today in the mail.
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| | | 133 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5352110
Tue, Oct 20, 2015, 11:43
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Love the WC-S pick. Think back to the start of last year in college basketball. It was wee Willie that was getting the preseason early season hype for player of the year. Maybe he can fullfil that hype now. Low pressure situation with lots of minutes...just don't expect big points with Boogie on the court.
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| | | 134 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5352110
Tue, Oct 20, 2015, 11:45
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LOL just read species post. 5 of last 21 picks. That should be interesting.
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| | | 135 | Species
ID: 11730119
Tue, Oct 20, 2015, 11:46
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WCS' upside is a Tyson Chandler type. Very valuable -- moreso in real basketball than fantasy.
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| | | 136 | Bean
ID: 14147911
Tue, Oct 20, 2015, 12:17
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<133> I saw Kentucky play in the sweet 16 in Cleveland. The guy I was impressed with was Booker, a great shooter. Problem with him is that he may take a few years to grow into the Ray Allen role.
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| | | 137 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 20, 2015, 12:53
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82][122] With coldwater's "check in the mail", the only one I'm waiting for now is Meatwads, who only owes $5.
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| | | 138 | PeteN.
ID: 8550318
Tue, Oct 20, 2015, 18:49
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Sorry fellas. I had Turner and Caldwell-Pope in my queue. F!
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| | | 139 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Tue, Oct 20, 2015, 23:31
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It appears to me that the overnight draft pause is still not activated.
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| | | 140 | Perm Dude
ID: 431013412
Wed, Oct 21, 2015, 00:43
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That's right--looks like we're going to get a skipped pick in about 45 minutes.
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| | | 141 | Species
ID: 54740122
Wed, Oct 21, 2015, 10:32
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139 - Weird. Swore I added it. Sorry guys.....it should be in there now.
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| | | 142 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 21, 2015, 11:57
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[141] You've done this before. I think it's easy to miss the final step of the pause confirmation, because you have to scroll way down the page to find the button.
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| | | 143 | WG
ID: 552431321
Wed, Oct 21, 2015, 12:10
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I was torn between WCS and Portis and decided to reach on Portis instead.
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| | | 144 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Wed, Oct 21, 2015, 13:00
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It's heartening to see that we have picked up the pace to the extent we are now scheduled to finish only 3 hours after the opening night tip off's.
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| | | 145 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5352110
Wed, Oct 21, 2015, 13:18
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I'm looking to move up into front half of the 3rd round for my 4.07 pick and a swap of next years picks.
Have I mentioned I hate all my picks so far?
BMD's are the most interesting to me so far. Veteran player collection. Good possibilities for either 'float until my players are back health' or 'deal em later for pick swaps'...or both.
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| | | 146 | Species
ID: 11730119
Wed, Oct 21, 2015, 13:42
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144: with 5 picks from 5.20 on, I wholeheartedly support this slow pace so I may have the advantage of all of the late-preseason news of who won the starting jobs! ;)
142: Good point. I realized where I forgot to confirm the confirmation of the already confirmed confirmation of the )_(*#$_(*#&_* draft pause. Geez.
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| | | 147 | Species
ID: 11730119
Wed, Oct 21, 2015, 14:38
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Does Wilson Chandler have malaria or something? Why on earth did he fall so far?
youngroman with 9 REALLY solid players. If Lowry returns to 2013/2014 form, he's looking really good. He lacks superstar power, but will peck you to death with so many productive players.
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| | | 148 | Perm Dude
ID: 431013412
Wed, Oct 21, 2015, 15:00
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Agree on youngroman's squad.
Nobody else seems to have noticed that, through crafty trading, bmd is just about done with his draft already and we haven't yet finished the third round. Sometimes the game-behind-the-game is what wins championships.
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| | | 149 | skinneej
ID: 478182311
Wed, Oct 21, 2015, 17:58
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Almost took Chandler before opting to go with Old Man Joe Johnson (at 34 he looks and plays like he's over 40). I felt Joe was a better fit for my team this year. If I thought Chandler was a potential keeper, I would have opted for him, but these are solid vets that can help balance out squads at this point.
I did find it interesting that most of my queue made it from my 2nd to my 3rd pick, but now 5 out of the last 7 picks have emptied what I had left. Guess it's time to figure out my next round options.
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| | | 150 | beastiemiked
ID: 481162721
Wed, Oct 21, 2015, 21:55
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RSF, I always favor vets over rookies in basketball. Looking back at last year I had some great vet picks(1.15 Jamal Crawford, 4.06 Mo Williams, and 6.15 Lou Williams), unfortuntaley Lou was getting like 16 minutes a game in the early season so I dropped him before he started getting 20+ minutes every game. Could've turned him into another draft pick upgrade. With Jennings out til Christmas and Jabari still not back either I might be trading all my vets early. Contenders never want "possible" keepers. They want guys like Korver.
One of these years I'm going to completely blow up my team and draft 6 guys under 22. Would be so much fun but stinks throwing a year away. Maybe next year after I can finally not keep Kobe.
That said, is anyone rebuilding? I'd be interested in a nice solid veteran player :)
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| | | 151 | Species
ID: 11730119
Thu, Oct 22, 2015, 17:06
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Everyone.
Please.
Pick up.
Your players.
I ain't your Mom. You have a phone. Get off your ass.
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| | | 152 | Perm Dude
ID: 431013412
Thu, Oct 22, 2015, 18:51
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My bad! Picking up now.
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| | | 153 | Species
ID: 11730119
Thu, Oct 22, 2015, 18:56
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Finally starting to look at my 2nd pick at 5.20. Needless to say.......it's slim pickins!!!
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| | | 154 | Species
ID: 11730119
Fri, Oct 23, 2015, 13:18
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You know its bad when you are pissed off that scrubs like Aaron Brooks and Kent Bazemore get picked in front of you...........ugh
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| | | 155 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 22712514
Fri, Oct 23, 2015, 15:13
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I went to get my recently made picks and they were already there.
Thanks Mom!
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| | | 156 | skinneej
ID: 478182311
Fri, Oct 23, 2015, 17:18
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Yeah Brooks was the last player in my queue, so I had to spend time looking for more players that will be the first to be dropped.
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| | | 157 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Sat, Oct 24, 2015, 22:15
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The draft has been re-set, and re-entered. The PD-RSF trade has been processed. Transaction counter is re-set. Waiver order has been updated. All players are now on waivers.
Please check your teams for accuracy. Thanks.
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| | | 158 | Species
ID: 54740122
Sun, Oct 25, 2015, 14:11
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Tosh.....you are the effin' MAN. Thanks for jumping in at the end to help out. It is greatly appreciated!!!!
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| | | 159 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 22712514
Sun, Oct 25, 2015, 20:28
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Because I felt like rambling...my draft review.
Meyers Leonard, POR, C-F
Hoping this turns into my new Ryan Anderson, a big that bombs 3s and grabs boards. Preseason showed it might come true.
Gary Harris, DEN, G
Sucked his rookie year, but I hope his defense he flashed in college will translate to pros. Preseason numbers are fools gold, but he did put up fair numbers. Crowded SG slot in Denver, but I hope a youthful tandem of Harris and Mudiay prevails.
Steven Adams, OKC, C
Not sure how this will play out, but he is the defense to Enes' offense. Besides, he's got that full on crazy Kiwi look going.
Shabazz Muhammad, MIN, F
Put up quality numbers last year when teamed with Wiggins, before getting hurt. Pretty empty stat line, but I'm just asking for points here. Made a big push for minutes with his last few preseason games, drop 19 and 18 points.
Derrick Williams, NYK, F
Did I mention career disappointments? Totally buying the preseason numbers on this one, but another crowded front court makes this a gamble. Hoping Phil can work some voodoo here.
Thomas Robinson, BKN, F
You know he sucks. You know he rules (the glass). I just can't not have him on my roster. He has officially replaced Anthony Randolph on my 'dumbass I have to have' list. Sigh... Probably going to get Center eligibility once the BLopez injury happens. And that Net roster just sucks. OK...I might believe myself now.
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| | | 160 | Perm Dude
ID: 431013412
Mon, Oct 26, 2015, 14:38
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RotoWire's projected final standings, based on keepers + draft:
Pete N 152 points
Dave R 144.5
coldwater 121.5
skinneej 1165
KnicksFan 115.5
Meatwads 111.5
Jaydog 111.5
youngroman 101.5
bean 95
Perm Dude 92.5
RSF 90
bmd 85.5
wg 80.5
Species 79.5
Tosh 79
twolves 77.5
Great One 69.5
RotoGuru 69
wolfer 68.5
vampire 29
A pre-caveat caveat: RotoWire's software doesn't include Nate Robinson's projects for some reason, so vampire is missing stats for Robinson.
Caveat: Assumes no WW pickups, trades, or underperformance (or overperformance). Your results may vary.
This is all broken down in the software, but I'm not seeing the ability to copy and paste the projected full standings and it is too much to type out by hand. But it is interesting, nevertheless. For myself, the software helps me to hone in on category targets better in the later stages of drafts. But there you go.
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| | | 161 | Perm Dude
ID: 431013412
Mon, Oct 26, 2015, 14:38
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*projections, not "projects."
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| | | 162 | GO
ID: 432341310
Mon, Oct 26, 2015, 17:02
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Anyone interested in swapping 1st rounders next year? You are getting a lottery pick!
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| | | 163 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Mon, Oct 26, 2015, 17:33
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Interesting while looking at the FA list. Only 10 players available that ESPN projects to have greater than 1 minute played this season.
Seems like their projection guy missed a few players!
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| | | 164 | Vampireweekend
ID: 129582617
Mon, Oct 26, 2015, 18:58
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29?!?!?!?!? I figured 31 minimum...
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| | | 165 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 22712514
Tue, Oct 27, 2015, 00:04
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Apparently BMD can't draft for squat.
I'm not sure I'm trusting that predictive model...although I did use my awesome drafting skills to move up one whole slot to an awesome 11th place!
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| | | 166 | skinneej
ID: 478182311
Tue, Oct 27, 2015, 14:37
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Haven't used Rotowire before, but I normally purchase a draft kit from one of the expert sites each year, and then draft accordingly so my team is almost always projected to finish in the top 5 based on expected results. It didn't work so well last year with all the injuries I had, but in prior years it did help me have a few top 5 finishes. I will be interested to see how it turns out this year as I winged it without any "expert" data. I did use a similar approach, but may be too veteran heavy and not enough upside for this team.
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