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Subject: Gurupie 20 - 2016 / 2017 Preseason Discussion


  Posted by: Species - [07724916] Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 11:56

Happy Autumn all! It is time to start to get our shizz together in Hoops! Congrats to Pete for finally pulling through after 3 straight heartbreaking 2nd place finishes. Last year's standings:

Standings

1. Drummond and Curry Inc 155.5
2. Wazaaap Guy 151.5
3. Endangered Species 133
4. Hard To Be A KnicksFan 132
5. youngroman's Luschen 130
6. twolves 20 122
7. SAN FORDORS 117
8. Mighty Meatwads 115
9. Kevin Love Fan Club 104
10. Skinnee J's 88
11. In Giannis We Trust 87
12. coldwater coyotes 86
13. Jay dog 75.5
14. Bean's Buckeyes 75
15. Roto Guru 69
16. Team Perm Dudes 63
17. beastie miked 55
18. GO Second City Saints 52
19. Vampire Weekend 50.5
20. Naptown 'Nados 29

First order of business: PLEASE confirm whether you will be returning or not!

I'll get to proposed dates and stuff when I can.

Welcome back!!
 
1youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 14:13
I'm in
 
2twolves
      ID: 811161317
      Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 14:57
I am in
 
3Species
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 15:58
The following managers have had their 2016 draft picks altered via trade:

11-26-14 Toral receives Species' 3rd for his 6th (D. Green)
10-15-15 RSF receives Species' 4th for this 6th (D. Williams)
11-14-15 bmd receives Pete's 1st for his 5th (Collison)
11-27-15 PD receives RSF's 4th for his 6th (Capela)
03-14-16 Meatwads receives Pete's 2nd for his 6th (Rose)
 
4Species
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 16:04
Naptown Nados only had 602 games played vs. a minimum of 656, for a shortfall of 54. However, if my calculations are correct, a demerit is assigned for every 8 games the team is short, with only full integers involved. As such, he would be penalized 6 draft slots (vs. the 6.75 demerits 'earned'), as we only count full integers.

That would result in him being slotted 14th in our lottery and all subsequent draft rounds. Everyone from Vampire Weekend down to Bean would move "up" in the lottery.
 
5Species
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 16:21
The NBA regular season starts on October 25th. Last year the draft took about 5 days. Im considering the following schedule:

- Keeper Deadline: Friday October 14th, 12:00pm ET
- Draft turned on: Sunday October 16th, 12:00pm ET
- Clock starts: Monday October 17th, 12:00pm ET

Thoughts or concerns welcomed.
 
6Bean
      ID: 41052279
      Tue, Sep 20, 2016, 22:11
I am in
 
7PeteN.
      ID: 19721320
      Wed, Sep 21, 2016, 11:11
I'm in!
 
8Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Sep 21, 2016, 11:43
I am in.

However, I'll be traveling from Oct 4-19, and my internet connectivity will be spotty. As such, do not count on me for any commish-type duties during that time frame. I'll have my hands full just drafting my own players.

As I recall, I am the "owner" of the league draft at Draftime, and I'll renew that once NBA drafts are available.

I can run the lottery any time prior to Oct 4.

 
9coldwater coyotes
      ID: 499401819
      Wed, Sep 21, 2016, 11:56
In - Thanks
 
10KnicksFan
      ID: 11842111
      Wed, Sep 21, 2016, 12:04
In
 
11GO
      ID: 17312218
      Wed, Sep 21, 2016, 12:49
In. Please warn when the lottery will be. Need to get my good luck trolls out of storage.
 
12Tosh
      ID: 057721710
      Wed, Sep 21, 2016, 13:29
I'm in.
 
13VampireWeekend
      ID: 538552113
      Wed, Sep 21, 2016, 14:55
In
 
14Species
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Sep 21, 2016, 18:56
Tallying for my records:

In:
Species
youngroman
twolves
Bean
Pete
Guru
coldwater coyotes
KnicksFan
GO
Tosh
VampireWeekend

Pending response:
bmd
PermDude
wolfer
Jaydog
RSF
skinneej
Meatwads
Dave R
WG
 
15RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 268262122
      Wed, Sep 21, 2016, 23:26
I'm in for crushing fools!
 
16Meatwads
      ID: 142562814
      Wed, Sep 21, 2016, 23:45
I'm in.
 
17youngroman
      ID: 57047243
      Thu, Sep 22, 2016, 04:08
training camps haven't really started yet and I am already one keeper body (Khris Middleton) down for the season. the season could not have started worse.
 
18Bean
      ID: 41052279
      Thu, Sep 22, 2016, 10:32
<4> According to the rules, he is penalized 7 draft slots not 6. You round up. If you are one game below min you get dinged for a whole round....you round up.
 
19Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Sep 22, 2016, 12:04
Here is the rule on demerits, as posted on the league site:
A team must accumulate a minimum of 656 GP (82 GP/pos) over the course of a season. For each 8 games of shortfall (1 GP/pos), a team is assigned one demerit. Demerits will be integer values only. Thus, a team with 1-8 games of shortfall will receive one demerit, 9-16 will receive 2 demerits, etc.
Although the statement "Demerits will be integer values only" could be interpreted several ways, I believe the intent is as Bean mentions in post 18, since a 1-8 games shortfall clearly results in one demerit.
 
20Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Sep 22, 2016, 12:08
Draft grid from Species, amended to push wolfer down one extra slot (per posts 18-19)
  Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 5 Round 6
1 Vampire Vampire Vampire Vampire Vampire Vampire
2 GO GO GO GO GO GO
3 bmd bmd bmd bmd Pete N. bmd
4 PermDude PermDude PermDude PermDude PermDude RSF
5 Guru Guru Guru Guru Guru Guru
6 Bean Bean Bean Bean Bean Bean
7 Jaydog Jaydog Jaydog Jaydog Jaydog Jaydog
8 wolfer wolfer wolfer wolfer wolfer wolfer
9 coldwater coldwater coldwater coldwater coldwater coldwater
10 RSF RSF RSF PermDude RSF Species
11 skinneej skinneej skinneej skinneej skinneej skinneej
12 Tosh Tosh Tosh Tosh Tosh Tosh
13 Meatwads Meatwads Meatwads Meatwads Meatwads Pete N.
14 Dave R Dave R Dave R Dave R Dave R Dave R
15 twolves twolves twolves twolves twolves twolves
16 youngroman youngroman youngroman youngroman youngroman youngroman
17 KnicksFan KnicksFan KnicksFan KnicksFan KnicksFan KnicksFan
18 Species Species Species RSF Species Species
19 WG WG WG WG WG WG
20 bmd Meatwads Pete N. Pete N. Pete N. Pete N.
 
21GO
      ID: 388562222
      Thu, Sep 22, 2016, 23:56
Anyone looking for big guys (and I know that's many of you).... I've got like 4 young bigs under 25 and I'll need to move at least 2.

Alex Len
Cauley-Stein
Embiid
John Henson
Bobby Portis

Looking for picks or to upgrade Brandon Knight or Ryan Anderson if you want buy 2-3 for your 1.
 
22WG
      ID: 35338278
      Fri, Sep 23, 2016, 07:50
In
 
24skinneej
      ID: 14911313
      Fri, Sep 23, 2016, 20:13
In
 
25 PeteN.
      ID: 8550318
      Fri, Sep 23, 2016, 20:19
For anyone short on keepers, I have the following players available:

Wes Matthews - Sharp shooter who can also get steals. Someone has to score the ball in Dallas. Showed how durable he is last year after suffering a freak injury the year before.
Will Barton - Will the Thrill found a groove in Denver. 6th man of the year threat and only 25.
Derrick Rose - Ahhh, Mr Rose. Will a change of scenery help? Will he stay healthy? Former MVP. He's about to turn 28 so the time is now to get his career back on track.
Darren Collison - Likely facing a suspension, but the starting PG gig is his when he returns. He flourished when Rondo was out last year.
Marvin Williams - Had a career year last year and was rewarded. He has the skill set to show last year wasn't a fluke.
Al-Farouq Aminu - A do-it-all forward who will see significant minutes at PF and is only 26.

I'm looking for draft pick upgrades, 2 for 1s, 3 for 1s. Open to any ideas. Let me know if you have any interest.
 
26Perm Dude
      ID: 24812216
      Fri, Sep 23, 2016, 21:16
in
 
27 Meatwads
      ID: 142562814
      Sat, Sep 24, 2016, 15:02
Any of these players are available for a pick upgrade..

Ed Davis, F/C, POR - 27 yrs old
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, G/F, DET - 23 yrs old
Jerami Grant, F, PHI - 22 yrs old
Trey Lyles,F, UTA - 21 yrs old
Nemanja Bjelica, F, MIN - 28 yrs old
K.J. McDaniels, G/F, HOU - 23 yrs old

Also open to discussing my projected keepers if anyone wants to get their keepers involved.


 
28Bean
      ID: 41052279
      Sat, Sep 24, 2016, 21:21
Well these at my top five players:

Lebron James
Al Horford
Nicola Vucevic
JJ Redick
Harrison Barnes

Though I am leaning toward keeping 6th man Jamal Crawford, I haven't decided yet. The remaining bunch are:

Andre Iguodala
Bojan Bogdonavich
Dion Waiters
Ty Lawson
Jerryd Bayless
Frank Kaminsky

Some have a chance to start (Bogdonavich has been anointed and Waiters looks to take Wade's place).

Anyway two of mine for one of yours or pick upgrades is what I am looking for, just like everyone else.
 
29Jaydog
      ID: 106132311
      Mon, Sep 26, 2016, 12:23
Hey all... I'm in for this season.
 
30Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Sep 26, 2016, 14:54
Our tally:

Pending response:
bmd
wolfer
Dave R

I will reach out to bmd and Dave R and have zero concerns they will be in. I am, however, concerned about wolfer given his activity last year. We may need to consider back up plans there.
 
31Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Mon, Sep 26, 2016, 14:58
In
 
32Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Sep 26, 2016, 15:25
I just noticed an error in my Draft Grid. I owe twolves a 3rd for his 6th via an old trade with Toral. I have updated my grid and we will post a new grid once the lottery is completed.

Question for the group: if Wolfer doesn't return and we have to bring in a new manager, do we apply the demerit penalties for the lack of GP last year?

Or would we waive it so as not to penalize a manager who was not in control of the team in the first place?

Or, do we split the difference and slot that team somewhere other than 1st but not all the way down in 8th? 4th perhaps?
 
33Bean
      ID: 41052279
      Mon, Sep 26, 2016, 20:20
My thoughts are that the lack of GP is why he finished so poorly. Had he kept his roster full, he would have higher numbers in all counting stats.

I can see offering a higher draft position as a carrot to a new team, but only if you have a problem getting a rep.
 
34Bmd
      ID: 825715
      Mon, Sep 26, 2016, 22:31
Sorry for the delay. I'm out(going out with Kobe). Thanks for the fun times!

PS, never quitting baseball.
 
35Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Sep 27, 2016, 11:32
Out:

bmd

Yet to respond:

wolfer

Everyone else is in. Everyone, please reach out to other hoop peeps to see who might want in. Thanks.
 
36Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Sep 27, 2016, 11:33
bmd's team:

Serge Ibaka, Orl PF
Brandon Jennings, NY PG
Zach LaVine, Min PG
Kyle Korver, Atl SG
Jordan Hill, Min PF
Kobe Bryant, LAL SG
Jabari Parker, Mil SF
Andrew Michael Bogut, Dal C
Cole Aldrich, Min C
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Cha SF
Andrew Nicholson, Wsh PF Roy Hibbert, Cha
 
37 maspero
      ID: 34847289
      Wed, Sep 28, 2016, 11:02
I am sure you won't have problems finding one / two new member(s).
But if you have, I would like to join.
I played with a lot of you.
I was in the RIHC until last year (never above AAA) when I took a sabatical, while I am in AAA of RIBC and this year for the first time I joined RIFC.
Let me know !!!
maspero
 
38 Florian
      ID: 3391899
      Wed, Sep 28, 2016, 22:56
I'd be interested in joining the league, but would need to know the rules first. Would also like to know what kind of team or picks I would get. Bmd's team looks fairly weak...
 
39RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 16381418
      Wed, Sep 28, 2016, 23:08
Florian, check out post #60 here for rules.

BMD's team is fairly weak (who'd leave with a great team??) but you have to realize its a 20 team league with keepers, so they aren't *that* bad. Although that Jabari Parker guy should be cut or just dealt to In Giannis We Trust for a low draft pick...
 
40Florian
      ID: 3391899
      Wed, Sep 28, 2016, 23:42
I'm interested. How do free agents work?
 
41maspero
      ID: 34847289
      Thu, Sep 29, 2016, 03:39
"The only off-season transactions that will be allowed are trades".
Does it mean that free agents pickups are not allowed during the regular season ?
 
42Florian
      ID: 3391899
      Thu, Sep 29, 2016, 07:51
Have to say that after sleeping on it, I'm having second thoughts. Other than Ibaka and Parker that team is really bad. And the rest of the league is pretty deep, so other than rookies the draft does not offer an easy way to build a team. The idea of spending 5 years being the Philadelphia 76ers to try to get a reasonable lineup is not very appealing.
 
43Bmd
      ID: 825715
      Thu, Sep 29, 2016, 09:23
Can I have my team back? I want to crush RSF. Lol at 5 years for a rebuild. Understand if I lost the chance but my team isn't that bad and have 3 of the top 25 picks in the supplemental draft.
 
44Florian
      ID: 3391899
      Thu, Sep 29, 2016, 09:40
If bmd wants his team back I have no objection (not that I actually have a vote).
 
45Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Sep 29, 2016, 11:35
bmd may have his team back. An OG, he is welcome in all G20 leagues.

Florian - please accept this as a buddy (even on a message board) giving you a hard time, but I have to call you out on being a bit of a wuss. You are a hard core hoops player who should be able to find those hidden gems and breakouts with the best of them. With twenty teams, of course there are going to be some teams in transition -- but a big part of the fun of this league is the challenge in building a winner in the first place. MAN UP!

I am going to email wolfer again.......and give him until Tuesday the 4th to respond. I will take suggestions on replacement managers and direct them here so they can familiarize themselves with the rules.

41: Yes, free agents/waiver wires operate normally during the season. The point of the rule you quoted is avoid any team being able to swipe a player off the free agent list because of new offseason news.
 
46Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Sep 29, 2016, 11:38
wolfer's team:

Timofey Mozgov, LAL C
Dwyane Wade, Chi SG
Justise Winslow, Mia SG
Jared Sullinger, Tor PF
Marcus Morris, Det PF
Luis Scola, Bkn PF
Austin Rivers, LAC SG
Dirk Nowitzki, Dal PF
Mike Conley, Mem PG
Paul Pierce, LAC SF
Channing Frye, Cle PF
Rudy Gay, Sac SF
 
47wolfer
      ID: 53842911
      Thu, Sep 29, 2016, 12:04
I am in. my bad.
 
48Florian
      ID: 3391899
      Thu, Sep 29, 2016, 13:17
Species - you're right. I was being a wuss. I'll join if somebody wants out, but it looks like bmd and wolfer want back in :(. If someone changes their mind I'll take their team assuming you guys are still willing to have me in your league.
 
49Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Sep 29, 2016, 13:28
Excellent. Thanks maspero and Florian for voicing your interest. Lurk in the thread and keep tabs on us.......you never know when there is a new opening.

The NBA regular season starts on October 25th. Last year the draft took about 5 days. Im considering the following schedule:

- Keeper Deadline: Friday October 14th, 12:00pm ET
- Draft turned on: Sunday October 16th, 12:00pm ET
- Clock starts: Monday October 17th, 12:00pm ET
 
50RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 16381418
      Fri, Sep 30, 2016, 01:16
"I want to crush RSF."

That's AWESOME!
 
51Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 02, 2016, 17:57
Species told me to go ahead and run the lottery.

I'll do it later tonight.
 
52 beastiemiked
      ID: 481162721
      Sun, Oct 02, 2016, 21:58
I'll be looking to acquire 1-2 keepers via trade. Will be looking for youth. I'm not in a huge rush but thought I'd let some managers with extra "keepers" to keep me in mind.
 
53Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 02, 2016, 22:37
Lottery Results:

Pick #1: GO
Pick #2: Bmd
Pick #3: Vampire Weekend

details are in http://rotoguru1.com/hoop/G20/G20-Oct16-14x4_balls.xls
 
54Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Oct 03, 2016, 22:54
Congrats Great One.

Sorry Vampire Weekend.......the curse of the highest lottery odds continues. I don't believe there has been more than 1 (IF THAT) last place team that has actually received the first pick in any hoop / baseball G20 league since we started doing lotteries. Kinda weird.

The league has been renewed in Draftime (thanks Guru). Would all teams please check your Draftime registration to ensure the best emails are there. If you want a partner or backup to have access, be sure to get their emails in there as secondary emails as well.

Since there have been no objections, we will move forward with the timeline as outlined in Post 49.
 
55VampireWeekend
      ID: 091249
      Tue, Oct 04, 2016, 14:39
I was hoping that was the practice lottery...
 
56twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Tue, Oct 04, 2016, 15:17
Available players but will keep one:
CJ Miles
Danny Green
Taj Gibson
Henry Sims
Tim Frazier
Mario Hexonja
B. Biyombo

Interested in keeper trade or draft upgrade.
 
57Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Oct 05, 2016, 10:27
Pretty set in my keepers, but I do have Dallas PG Deron Williams available. Sure, he comes with a reputation of getting hurt, but he has only played less than 65 games once in his entire career. He just turned 32 so he is not ancient.

He is the clear #1 PG in Dallas. He hits 1.5 threes, will get 5-6 assists and a steal per game and is worthy of a spot on your G20 squad.
 
59 KnicksFan
      ID: 11842111
      Wed, Oct 05, 2016, 11:04
I have too many keepers, so I'm willing to consider business for the following guys:

Dwight Howard
Trevor Ariza
Robert Covington
Tristan Thompson
Seth Curry
Luke Babbitt
 
60Species
      ID: 46252312
      Fri, Oct 07, 2016, 12:03
One week to go before the Keeper Deadline.

I will set up a keeper thread soon. However, please be sure to mark your keepers on ESPN!!

I will correct the draft grid.....but Guru is mostly unavailable so.....can someone else volunteer to post it for me? Thanks.
 
61Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 08:32
  Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 5 Round 6
1 Great One Vampire Vampire Vampire Vampire Vampire
2 bmd GO GO GO GO GO
3 Vampire bmd bmd bmd Pete N. bmd
4 PermDude PermDude PermDude PermDude PermDude RSF
5 Guru Guru Guru Guru Guru Guru
6 Bean Bean Bean Bean Bean Bean
7 wolfer wolfer wolfer wolfer wolfer wolfer
8 Jaydog Jaydog Jaydog Jaydog Jaydog Jaydog
9 coldwater coldwater coldwater coldwater coldwater coldwater
10 RSF RSF RSF PermDude RSF Species
11 skinneej skinneej skinneej skinneej skinneej skinneej
12 Tosh Tosh Tosh Tosh Tosh Tosh
13 Meatwads Meatwads Meatwads Meatwads Meatwads Pete N.
14 Dave R Dave R Dave R Dave R Dave R Dave R
15 twolves twolves twolves twolves twolves Species
16 youngroman youngroman youngroman youngroman youngroman youngroman
17 KnicksFan KnicksFan KnicksFan KnicksFan KnicksFan KnicksFan
18 Species Species twolves RSF Species Species
19 WG WG WG WG WG WG
20 bmd Meatwads Pete N. Pete N. Pete N. Pete N.
 
62Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 11:32
I tried to go into Draftime to set the order. But, somehow, wolfer had two accounts tied to our league in Draftime. That would seem to be just fine - we are all allowed to have multiple email accounts to which we receive Draftime emails. But when I went to input the draft order, it showed we had 21 teams.

I tried to remove one of wolfer's teams, but it removed him completely. I have sent wolfer a login to re-register for Draftime. I need him to do so ASAP please.

Reminder: The Keeper Deadline is Friday. Please mark your keeper in ESPN!!!
 
63wolfer
      ID: 99331210
      Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 11:33
Re-registered
 
64Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 13:11
Awesome. Thanks wolfer.....that was a big help.

Draft order and trades are entered in Draftime. We will be ready to go this weekend after the keeper deadline.

Trading continues to be open for business.

Keeper thread up.
 
65Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 21:30
wolfer - heads up, you only listed 5 keepers. You may keep up to 6.
 
66Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 12:29
Trade with Pete -

I get Al-Farouq Aminu and Pete's 6.20

Pete gets my 4.12

 
67PeteN.
      ID: 19721320
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 13:11
Confirmed.

Willing to do a similar type of deal for Matthews, Barton or Williams (none of which will still be available by then).
 
68wolfer
      ID: 39901314
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 15:01
That's what I get for trying to be in two leagues at the same time, but I digress.


Anywho, I have a trade to announce. I have acquired Alex Len and a fourth round pick from GO for my second and fourth.

Alex Len becomes my 6th keeper, which I will post in other thread.
 
69Species
      ID: 46252312
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 16:19
All - Be sure to make these trades in ESPN! We need them to process keepers.

Offseason trades are approved by the Commish....so I can push them through before tomorrow.
 
70 skinneej
      ID: 42692211
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 18:20
Any interest in these players?

Chris Bosh
DeMarre Carroll
Matt Barnes
 
71Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 20:26
68: that would leave GO with 7 picks and you with 5 picks. Was that your intention?

Did you mean GO gets your 2nd and 4th and you get his 4th and 6th plus Len???
 
72 Bmd
      ID: 825715
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 21:27
Still potentially looking to upgrade a keeper. Looking for youth or a vet I can flip after keepers are declared. Looking for cheaper options. Shoot me an offer on your leftovers.
 
73PeteN.
      ID: 19721320
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 21:59
Trade Alert

I get 4.03

Bmd gets Matthews and 5.03
 
74beastiemiked
      ID: 481162721
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 22:00
Latest trade includes these pick swaps.
Pete gets 4.03
Bmd gets 5.03
 
75GO
      ID: 388562222
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 22:01
Confirmed -- just his 2nd for my 4th
 
76PeteN.
      ID: 19721320
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 22:06
I'm still looking to deal Will Barton and Marvin Williams for cheap. Both are starters who offer plenty of value in a league like this.
 
77Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 22:45
Trades noted and approved.

Trades updated in Draftime. But I am unlikely to update the draft grid. PLEASE CHECK ALL OF YOUR PICKS once I start the draft.
 
78Species
      ID: 46252312
      Thu, Oct 13, 2016, 23:08
Oh.....and my own trade:

PD gets Deron Williams and my 6th for his 4th.
 
79Perm Dude
      ID: 24812216
      Fri, Oct 14, 2016, 07:38
#78: Confirmed
 
80RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 5352110
      Fri, Oct 14, 2016, 08:52
Trade:

PD gets Plumlee + 5.10
RSF gets Vinsanity + 5.04

Welcome to the team Vince!
 
81Perm Dude
      ID: 24812216
      Fri, Oct 14, 2016, 09:16
Ha! Confirmed.
 
82 WG
      ID: 35338278
      Fri, Oct 14, 2016, 09:24
George Hill available if anyone wants/needs a PG
 
83wolfer
      ID: 22958148
      Fri, Oct 14, 2016, 09:58
re 68 and 71

Trade is amended for me to pick up GO's 6th. So its my second and my fourth for Alex Len, his fourth and sixth.
 
84GO
      ID: 17312218
      Fri, Oct 14, 2016, 12:22
Confirmed
 
85GO
      ID: 17312218
      Fri, Oct 14, 2016, 12:24
I would likely move 2.02 + 2.07 to get into the top 10 anyone looking for depth.
 
86Voice Of The People
      ID: 091249
      Fri, Oct 14, 2016, 14:20
Don't forget to note keepers in ESPN
 
87Perm Dude
      ID: 24812216
      Fri, Oct 14, 2016, 20:50
hmmm. No players to keep on my team page.
 
88Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Oct 14, 2016, 21:14
The lead for dumbasses of the year is a three way tie right now:

- WG for not entering keepers in ESPN
- PD for not entering keepers in ESPN
- coldwater for not inputting keepers in the Keeper thread

I have fixed all of the above and "finalized" our offline draft. All players are now on waivers.

The draft will be held on Draftime. I hope to have time to enter keepers Saturday night and turn on the draft. The clock does not start until Monday.

As with baseball, we will pick up our players off of the Free agent list in ESPN.
Keep in mind that Draftime is 'official' -- a player may show up available in ESPN but may have been drafted.

I ain't your effing mom......I am going to be absolutely swamped next week after missing 2 weeks of work for jury duty. I may not pick up other people's players on principle. Just pick them up yourself. Please. Pretty please.
 
89Perm Dude
      ID: 24812216
      Sat, Oct 15, 2016, 13:23
Thanks, Species!
 
90 Bmd
      ID: 825715
      Sat, Oct 15, 2016, 21:44
Wesley Matthews available. Looking for 2017 picks.
 
91GO
      ID: 388562222
      Sun, Oct 16, 2016, 19:06
This could be an in-season kind of thing but I'm looking to move Blake Griffin for a guard. So he's for sale + 2.02, 2.07

I know people always looking for big guys in this league. Blake at 27 years old is firmly in his prime for the next few years.
 
92RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Sun, Oct 16, 2016, 22:09
Is there any way to create a queue Draftime right now? My availability during work hours is going to be crap, at best.
 
93Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Oct 16, 2016, 22:56
Ditto [92] - If I can't set up a queue tonight, I may not be able to do so until it's too late tomorrow.
 
94GO
      ID: 388562222
      Sun, Oct 16, 2016, 23:17
Also note you can GREATLY speed up making a list of names (and then just move them around in order) by using the importing feature in the pre-rank.

This is a new feature of a pre-populated list determined from various ADP rankings averaged together... or something like that. Doesn't matter. It just puts the names in there for you which is something I suggested recently and Draftime built this year. Enjoy. Thanks Fred!
 
95Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Sun, Oct 16, 2016, 23:33
Working on it now guys. If you can hang on, I will get it open.
 
96RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Sun, Oct 16, 2016, 23:33
Guru, do I owe money for the prize pool?
 
97Meatwads
      ID: 142562814
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 00:05
GO - Thanks for the tip about the importing feature. It's pretty cool that it only populates your queue with the players left in the draft still. Definitely a game changer in the queue setting world.
 
98Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 00:10
draft open!
 
99Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 00:21
Will send out prize pool info later next week.
 
100GO
      ID: 388562222
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 00:34
Ben Simmons pick made...

Excitement of the pick a bit dampened by the injury... Waiting half a season, or even a whole season at worst is not the end of the world in the big picture. I don't think I've had a 1st round fantasy caliber guy in this league. Even in the year I won it was a bunch of mid-level guys. Think I finally got my centerpiece. And man is he fun to watch if you haven't seen him yet. Sucks to have to wait, but its all part of The Process.
 
101Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 11:15
I opened the draft. bmd can sue me if he wants......but I am going to get busy at work so I did it while I had a second. If bmd wants a clock reset or something, I will give it to him.

PLEASE PICK UP YOUR PLAYERS IN ESPN! Guru is traveling. I am busy and am not your Mom! Seriously. I am going to make up my own demerit system for managers who do not show me and this league the basic courtesy of picking up your players. I may dock you draft pick slots. I am not joking!!

GO - that means you!

We all have )(#&$_)(#&)^T phones. Pick up your players.
 
102Bean
      ID: 41052279
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 12:46
Should the Indians get to the World Series, I will be driving to Cleveland from Colorado on Sunday. I'll do my best to keep up if the draft isn't done by then.

Go Tribe!
 
103Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 12:52
What a shame the Indians are without Carrasco and Salazar. IMO they would be a shoo-in with them........but obviously are kicking ass without them!
 
104Bmd
      ID: 825715
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 14:51
To clarify, looking to trade Wesley Matthews for a 2017 first round pick or I'd trade him for a pick this year(1st rounder or early 2nd rounder).
 
105GO
      ID: 388562222
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 18:26
Either of my 2.02 or 2.07 for sale for a 1st next year. If you are a contender, not much of price to pay assuming you'll be like the 1.18 pick or worse next year.
 
106Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 20:33
Trade Announcement

Species receives from Great One:
2016 2.02
2016 2.07
2017 6th

Great One receives from Species:
2016 2.18
2016 6.18
2017 1st
 
107GO
      ID: 17312218
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 20:38
Boom.
 
108Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 20:38
Slight correction in GO's favor -- he gets my 6.15 this year (6.18 went to PD in Williams trade).
 
109GO
      ID: 17312218
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 20:38
2.18 and 3.02 for a 1st next year? Lol...
 
110Bmd
      ID: 825715
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 21:06
Bmd gets:
6.11 and SkinneeJ's 2nd round in 2017(upgraded to SkinneeJ's 1st round pick in 2017 if Matthews plays in 60 or more regular season games).

SkinneeJ gets:
Matthews and bmd's 6th round pick in 2017
 
111 Bmd
      ID: 825715
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 21:13
Looking to possibly trade 1.20 and 2.03 for a 1st rounders next year. Might pick with one. Shoot me an offer.
 
112Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 21:40
Trade noted.

Be sure to get it in ESPN as well.
 
113Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 21:44
Teams already added to Species' $hit list for not picking up their players:

- wolfer (Kaminsky)
- twolves (Murray)
- KnicksFan (Dellavadova)

Guru got a pass because he is traveling and auto-picked.
 
114PeteN.
      ID: 19721320
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 21:45
Trade Alert

GO trades:

2016 2.18
2016 3.02
2017 5th

Pete trades:

2016 5.20
2016 6.13
2017 1st
 
115GO
      ID: 388562222
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 21:46
Confirmed. What is this, like the G20 MLB arms race? Slizz going to join and make a deal?!
 
116GO
      ID: 388562222
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 21:49
why do we have to see Boguts middle name?
 
117Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 21:50
Reminds me of James Michael McAdoo
 
118Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 21:51
Dayum!!

Maybe WG is working on a deal.......
 
119skinneej
      ID: 42692211
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 22:12
110 Confirmed
 
120beastiemiked
      ID: 481162721
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 23:27
Looking to trade current pick for 1st rounder next year. Headed to bed so will pick in the morning if I haven't heard from anybody.
 
121RecycledSpinalFluid
      Dude
      ID: 204401122
      Mon, Oct 17, 2016, 23:32
Favorite picks from Round 1:
1.04 - pd - Nurkic, Jusuf - Destroying it in preseason. Malone knows what to do with bigs.

1.05 - guru - Adams, Steven - Interesting to see his growth this year.

1.20 - bmd - Chriss, Marquese - preseason numbers look sweet, but soooo young.
 
122Species
      ID: 46252312
      Tue, Oct 18, 2016, 11:03
Looking for a G20 baseball repeat--

Bogut and Korver equal

Iwakuma and Lackey
 
123Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Oct 18, 2016, 11:55
121: totally agree on the Chriss pick.

Like most of the 1st rounders these days, with them mostly being so young, it is an investment that is hard to hold in your portfolio.

Kind of like the idiot who drafted James Harden....when he was to be relegated to the 6th man in OKC, that idiot let him go, only for him to flourish as the sixth man and get traded to Houston.....and look at him now. Very painful.
 
124Bmd
      ID: 825715
      Tue, Oct 18, 2016, 19:20
Pachulia available for a 2nd rounder in 2017 or 2018
 
125Perm Dude
      ID: 24812216
      Tue, Oct 18, 2016, 21:19
Hate to pick up another Laker. Or another center. But Mozgov could easily double his numbers from last year as the locked-in starter and lots of PT.
 
126Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Oct 19, 2016, 19:00
Bean is on his way to Cleveland!

BTW - You don't have to road trip it......they have invented the airplane and rental cars.....unless you have aviophobia (?)
 
127RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 5352110
      Thu, Oct 20, 2016, 11:43
Is bean really Tony Kornhieser?
 
128Bean
      ID: 41052279
      Thu, Oct 20, 2016, 14:11
Kornheiser is a Canada fan, I wasn't rooting for the Blue Jays.

I am driving so that I have my car while there for three weeks (leaving Sunday from Colorado). Had I planned to stay for a lesser time I would fly. I am retired Air Force, no flying phobias.

Planning to go to Games 1, 6 & 7 while there, should they all be necessary. Just sold my tickets to the Cavs home opener when they will raise the banner. Oddly the two venues are adjacent and Game 1 of the World Series is the same time as the banner raising.

Its gonna be a mad party in downtown Cleveland Tuesday Night, I should have gotten a hotel room, none left now but will stay that night at a friends house near the Rapid Transit (Cleveland's light rail system). I can use it even if drunk, but of course that might lead to a free night's stay, courtesy the Cleveland Police.
 
129Species
      Dude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Oct 21, 2016, 12:42
We have 10 picks to go. Great job everyone.

A reminder of what happens from here. At some point over the weekend if/when I have time (or if Tosh jumps in), we will re-enter the entire draft so that all free agents go on waivers. As such, please be aware that, upon the completion of the draft, no FA moves are allowed until the draft is re-entered and all players have been placed on waivers. Once that happens, then the league functions as normal.

Let me know if you have any questions. Good luck!!
 
130Tosh
      Leader
      ID: 057721710
      Fri, Oct 21, 2016, 16:44
The draft has been re-set, and re-entered. Transaction counter is re-set. Waiver order has been updated. All players are now on waivers.

Please check your teams for accuracy. Thanks.
 
131Bmd
      ID: 825715
      Thu, Mar 23, 2017, 11:19
Ibaka trade includes

Wg get bmd's 5th round in 2017

Bmd gets WG's 1st round in 2017
 
132Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Mar 23, 2017, 12:45
Still awaiting $15 dues payments from Vampire Weekend, Skinneej, Wolfer, and Meatwads.

Meatwads, you also have to decide if you are in or out of the pool for baseball. Send an extra $15 if you are in for that sport too.
 
133skinneej
      ID: 42692211
      Thu, Mar 23, 2017, 12:57
Been traveling the last few weeks, so thanks for the reminder. Just paid.
 
134Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Sat, Sep 16, 2017, 19:11
2017/18 season starts on 17 OCT. Roll call, keeper declaration, draft dates?
 
135twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Mon, Sep 18, 2017, 16:14
Earlier start to season and thus longer. Will have to be ready sooner for draft now.
 
136Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Sep 19, 2017, 12:59
Ok. Will seek to get a thread rolling tonight.