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Subject: Gurupie 20 - 2017 / 2018 Preseason Discussion


  Posted by: Species - SuperDude [07724916] Tue, Sep 19, 2017, 13:11

Happy Autumn all! It is time to start to get our shizz together in Hoops! Congrats to RSF for beating the odds and prognosticators early in the season last year and finishing off a great G20 win last year.

Last year's standings:

1. Freak Like Me 142
2. Wazaaap Guy 141
3. ttu cowboy 136
4. SAN FORDORS 126
5. Endangered Species 124
5. Jay dog 124
5. twolves 20 124
8. Roto Guru 114
9. Kevin Love Fan Club 111
9. Skinnee J's 111
11. youngroman's Luschen 102.5
12. Hard To Be A KnicksFan 90
13. coldwater coyotes 80
14. Mighty Meatwads 75
15. Bean's Buckeyes 72
16. Team Perm Dudes 58.5
17. beastie miked 50
18. Vampire Weekend 41
19. GO Second City Saints 38
20. Naptown 'Nados 30

First order of business: PLEASE confirm whether you will be returning or not! You never know if there will be a team that drops out, so if you have friends who are interested, please have them chime in.

I'll get to proposed dates and stuff when I can.

Welcome back!!
 
1KnicksFan
      ID: 78191912
      Tue, Sep 19, 2017, 13:19
This is my year!
 
2Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Sep 19, 2017, 13:26
Last year the season started October 25th. This year it starts October 17th. We have to start a week early.

Preliminary proposed dates:

- Keeper deadline: Friday October 6th, 12:00pm ET
- Draft turned on: Sunday October 8th (whenever I get around to it)
- Clock starts: Monday October 9th, 12:00pm ET
 
3Dave R
      ID: 530392313
      Tue, Sep 19, 2017, 13:29
I am in
 
4Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Sep 19, 2017, 13:29
in
 
5wolfer
      ID: 68301912
      Tue, Sep 19, 2017, 13:30
in.
 
6Coldwater coyotes
      ID: 528531912
      Tue, Sep 19, 2017, 13:54
In
 
7ttucowboy
      ID: 8550318
      Tue, Sep 19, 2017, 14:02
In
 
8Tosh
      Dude
      ID: 057721710
      Tue, Sep 19, 2017, 14:24
In
 
9youngroman
      ID: 19238238
      Tue, Sep 19, 2017, 15:01
In
 
10WG
      ID: 35338278
      Tue, Sep 19, 2017, 15:11
In
 
11Meatwads
      ID: 5863742
      Tue, Sep 19, 2017, 16:27
In
 
12Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Tue, Sep 19, 2017, 16:36
In
 
13RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 5352110
      Tue, Sep 19, 2017, 17:07
In
 
14Vampireweekend
      ID: 448221916
      Tue, Sep 19, 2017, 17:22
In
 
15twolves
      ID: 128331918
      Tue, Sep 19, 2017, 19:33
In
 
16GO
      ID: 565491620
      Thu, Sep 21, 2017, 00:17
In.
 
17Bmd
      ID: 825715
      Thu, Sep 21, 2017, 14:29
In
 
18Perm Dude
      ID: 49829217
      Thu, Sep 21, 2017, 14:42
in
 
19Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 11:49
Waiting to hear from:

skinneej
Jaydog
Vampire Weekend

------------------------------

We have some draft order issues to attend to:

1) Demerits
Only wolfer failed to meet the GP minimum last year. He posted 609 GP vs the 656 minimum. By my calculations that is a 47 game shortfall. As such, he is hit with 5 demerits (one short of a full 6). As such, he drops from the #1 slot in the draft (and lottery seeding) to #6.

2) Dice roll to break ties
We have 2 sets of ties in the standings. Guru, at your leisure, please run dice rolls to seed the teams that tied for fifth (twolves, Jaydog and myself) and ninth (Tosh, skinneej).

For purposes of draft order, the "winner" of the dice roll gets the preferred/higher seeding. For example, twolves, Jaydog and I are rolling for the 14th, 15th and 16th draft positions. The winner of the dice roll gets 14th.......then 15th........then 16th.

3) Lottery
Normally the bottom 14 teams in the standings are in the lottery (per our rules). But there isn't any verbiage about ties for that spot. The intent of that rule was always to exclude the teams "in the money".

Considering that we had a 3-way tie for 5th, and thus there were 7 teams in the money, we will exclude all 3 teams that finished 5th from the lottery and instead run a lottery of 13 teams.

Once the above are all taken care of, I will refresh the draft grid and get it posted here. Assuming we have no managers to replace this year, everyone is already in Draftime and hopefully you all see G20 2017-18 in your Draftime queues.
 
20Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 11:57
Tiebreakers (based on random draw):
seed 14: Twolves
seed 15: Jaydog
seed 16: Species

for the other tie, Tosh wins over skinneej

I have a copy of the random draws, if anyone wants to audit.
 
21jaydog
      ID: 57213279
      Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 11:58
I'm in!
 
22Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 12:33
Adjusted for tiebreakers and demerits, I believe these are the proper "seedings" for the supplemental draft and the lottery.

1 RSF
2 Wazaaap Guy
3 ttu cowboy
4 SANFORDORS
5 Endangered SS
6 Jay dog
7 twolves
Lottery teams
8 Guru
9 Skinneej
10 Tosh
11 youngroman
12 KnicksFan
13 coldwater coyotes
14 Mighty Meatwads
15 wolfer
16 Bean
17 Perm Dude
18 beastiemiked
19 Vampire Weekend
20 Great One
 
23Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 13:37
20: Well that sucked!

I am updating the draft grid (pre-lottery) and will forward to Guru for posting.

We had a couple of conditional trades to now finalize:

10-17-16 bmd receives skinneej's 1st for his 6th* (Matthews)
*If Wesley Matthews does not play in 60 or more games in 2016/2017, this pick becomes a 2nd rounder instead


Wes Matthews played 73 games (!) last year, so it remains a 1st for a 6th.

01-15-17 Sanfordors 1st Round pick in 2017 for GO 2nd Round Pick ONLY if its in the top 10; otherwise pick will convey in 2018 as Sandforders 1st Round for GO's 4th Round (R. Anderson/Biyombo)

Since Dave R's pick is going to be 17th in the first round, I interpret this trade to mean that the final trade will instead be Dave R's 2018 1st (for GO's 4th).
 
24Vampireweekend
      ID: 448221916
      Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 13:44
Still in - see 14
 
25Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 14:01
  Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 5 Round 6
1 GO GO GO GO ttucowboy Species
2 Vampire Vampire Vampire Vampire Vampire Vampire
3 bmd bmd bmd WG coldwater WG
4 PermDude PermDude PermDude PermDude PermDude WG
5 Bean Bean Bean Bean Bean Bean
6 wolfer wolfer wolfer wolfer wolfer wolfer
7 Meatwads Meatwads Meatwads RSF Dave R ttucowboy
8 coldwater bmd coldwater coldwater coldwater coldwater
9 KnicksFan KnicksFan KnicksFan KnicksFan KnicksFan KnicksFan
10 youngroman youngroman youngroman youngroman youngroman youngroman
11 Tosh Tosh Tosh Tosh Tosh Tosh
12 bmd skinneej skinneej skinneej skinneej ttucowboy
13 Guru Guru Guru Guru Guru Guru
14 twolves twolves twolves twolves twolves twolves
15 Jaydog Jaydog Jaydog Jaydog Jaydog Jaydog
16 GO Species Species Species Species Species
17 Dave R Meatwads Dave R Dave R Dave R Dave R
18 GO skinneej PermDude ttucowboy ttucowboy ttucowboy
19 bmd Meatwads skinneej WG WG WG
20 RSF Meatwads RSF RSF RSF RSF
 
26Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 14:06
Will plan to run the lottery this evening.
 
27Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 20:24
Lottery results:

Pick #1: Great One
Pick #2: wolfer
Pick #3: Bean

Audit copies of random draws were emailed to Species, Tosh, and Youngroman.

Spreadsheet with lottery results is here: http://rotoguru1.com/hoop/G20/G20-Oct17-14x4_balls.xls
 
28GO
      ID: 565491620
      Sat, Sep 23, 2017, 00:13
Hooray!
So. A few things worth noting.

I lean towards Fultz. Which means I will have too many Sixers. So here are things I'm exploring... trading Embiid, could package him with other of my extra 1st rounders. I'd probably also trade my extra 1st rounders for a 1st next season.

Blake Griffin for sale.
New starter Allan Crabbe for sale.
Package deal?

Lots of options basically if anyone wants to explores stuff.
 
29GO
      ID: 565491620
      Sat, Sep 23, 2017, 00:16
Oh, I'd also do something with like 1.16, 1.18, 2.01 and 3.01 to get back in the top 10 picks or so if a combo intrigues you to slide back.
 
30 Meatwads
      ID: 5863742
      Sat, Sep 23, 2017, 05:14
Congratulations GO!

I too am looking to talk preseason trades. My team can go many directions, so I'm open to discussing all kinds of deals.

Draft picks I currently own...
1.07, 2.07, 2.17, 2.19, 2.20, 3.07

Anyone is available in the right deal. If keepers were due today, I would keep C.J. McCollum, Andrew Wiggins, D'Angelo Russell, Paul Millsap, Thon Maker and Tyler Ulis.

That leaves Greg Monroe, Ivica Zubac, Juan Hernangomez and Dejounte Murray on the outside looking in. Obviously, these guys could be had for a proper pick upgrade or part of a package. I think there's some good upside in this group.
 
31skinneej
      ID: 42692211
      Mon, Sep 25, 2017, 17:15
I'm in
 
32Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Sep 25, 2017, 18:10
Great. All 20 teams are back. All teams should already see the draft in Draftime. I have edited ESPN for the Keeper Deadline and Draftime for the proposed start time of the draft as outlined below:

- Keeper deadline: Friday October 6th, 12:00pm ET
- Draft turned on: Sunday October 8th (whenever I get around to it)
- Clock starts: Monday October 9th, 12:00pm ET
 
33youngroman
      ID: 19238238
      Fri, Sep 29, 2017, 17:25
anyone interested in some youngsters? namely
Taurean Prince (starter for rebuilding Hawks)
Moe Harkless (most likely starter for the Blazers)
Norman Powell (probably starting for the Raptors)
Jahlil Okafor (talent is there but he needs a trade to have value)
 
34GO
      ID: 13471611
      Sat, Sep 30, 2017, 08:20
I am scanning leftover guys selling my 3.01 pick so be sure to post more like this. I probably need 1 guy if it can upgrade my last slot.
 
35Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Sat, Sep 30, 2017, 10:48
My bubble guys:

JJ Reddick
Bojan Bogdanovich
Courtney Lee
Denzel Valentine (projected starting SG with Wade's departure)

Am leaning toward keeping Reddick


 
36 twolves
      ID: 128331918
      Sat, Sep 30, 2017, 16:45
My current available:

Larry Nance Jr.
K. Bazemore
TyLer JOHNSON
Terrance Ross
Danny Green
Taj Gibson
 
37 ttucowboy
      ID: 8550318
      Sat, Sep 30, 2017, 19:55
My current available:

Derrick Rose
Darren Collison
DeMarre Carroll
Yogi Ferrell

If any interest you, let me know. I'm looking for a draft pick upgrade.
 
38Pacers Rule
      ID: 8915323
      Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 00:15
Good luck all.
 
39jaydog
      ID: 57213279
      Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 09:27
Players available... I'm also likely keeping 4 guards, so would love to trade a guard for a forward, possibly even combine a few for an upgrade.

Patrick Beverley
Enes Kanter
Elfrid Payton
Gary Harris
 
40coldwater coyotes
      ID: 499401819
      Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 11:30
Anybody interested in Markieff Morris?
 
41GO
      ID: 13471611
      Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 20:40
I would also consider selling picks even 1.01 for one top keeper + another top 100 type leftover if you want to shake things up with a young stud guard.
 
42Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Oct 05, 2017, 10:11
Keepers are supposedly due tomorrow. But I don't see a keeper thread anywhere. Are we just marking them on ESPN?
 
43Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Oct 05, 2017, 11:00
Thanks for that. Snuck up on me!

Thread created and reminder email sent.
 
44RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 18150916
      Thu, Oct 05, 2017, 13:43
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope is a "Lou Williams Special", FA-Waiver Claim that completed after the season was completed (next morning after the last game).
 
45 Bmd
      ID: 825715
      Thu, Oct 05, 2017, 14:35
Michael Kidd-Gilcrist available for super small upgrade.

Looking at possibly swapping some
2017 picks for picks in 2018. Looking to upgrade my 2018 picks.
 
46Meatwads
      ID: 5863742
      Thu, Oct 05, 2017, 17:20
Paul Millsap is on the trade block.

I'm looking to do a 2-for-1 deal, where I receive two young players that I want to keep going forward. I already have one offer on the table, so there is a certain level of players that need to be involved to get into the discussion.

If anyone wants this roto-stud entering a very favorable situation in Denver, and has the pieces to get it done, please email, text or find me on gmail chat. I'll be locked in all night until I get my keepers settled.

 
47Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Oct 05, 2017, 17:42
44: Are you sure RSF?

If so, that is an ineligible keeper. Will ping skinneej.
 
48RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 43936517
      Thu, Oct 05, 2017, 18:37
TransLog
Thu, Apr 13 4:30 AM Transaction
Add/Drop SKJ dropped Mindaugas Kuzminskas, NY PF to Waivers
SKJ added Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Det SG from Waivers to Bench SKJ Roster
 
49Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Oct 05, 2017, 21:50
I have dropped KCP from his roster.
 
50GO
      ID: 13471611
      Fri, Oct 06, 2017, 07:15
Traded my 3Rd for Prince. Youngroman can post the details when confirming.
 
51youngroman
      ID: 19238238
      Fri, Oct 06, 2017, 07:16
trade with GO (Prince) includes his 3.01 for my 6.10

anyone interested in Norman Powell? looks like he will score a ton this season, no matter if he starts or comes off the bench.
 
52 WG
      ID: 35338278
      Fri, Oct 06, 2017, 09:39
Keeping 6 forwards right now. Would love to swap one for a guard if anyone is interested?
 
53jaydog
      ID: 57213279
      Fri, Oct 06, 2017, 11:11
With 50 minutes left in the deadline I'd still love to swap a guard for a forward, especially one with decent rebounding stats. I have a few offers out there, but with so little time left, thought I'd see if anyone else had any interest.

Gary Harris looks to have the potential of a pretty elite scorer, with a much better FG% than most "chuckers" (.502% last season w/ 2 3's per game).

Patrick Beverley is also now the starting PG for the Clippers. Should be a nice source of steals, assists, and boards, while chipping in some decent scoring numbers.

Also open to packaging either of the two above with Nerlens Noel if anyone is looking for a 2-1 deal with some really high upside players.

 
54Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Fri, Oct 06, 2017, 12:28
I will have some cleanup to do. I didn't get to the trades before the deadline so I will make those adjustments.

Sadly, skinneej did not notice my email nor the posts in our threads. I am giving him until Midnight ET tonight to provide the name of a replacement keeper.
 
55skinneej
      ID: 14911313
      Fri, Oct 06, 2017, 21:58
I emailed you earlier as well, but Wesley Matthews is my 6th keeper now
 
56Bmd
      ID: 825715
      Sun, Oct 08, 2017, 21:44
New rule, if you don't mark your keepers you lose them... Species going to put the hurt down on those that didn't.
 
57Speciesd
      ID: 46252312
      Sun, Oct 08, 2017, 23:59
Guys.....I will not have the draft open on time. Busy weekend. Will have time tomorrow but after 12:00 ET.
 
58Tosh
      Dude
      ID: 057721710
      Mon, Oct 09, 2017, 00:06
On ESPN ... I just processed a couple of late trades, and added the keepers to THREE teams that did not click them as instructed. Please check your rosters for accuracy.

Near as I can tell, the ESPN site is correct, and ready to begin the draft.
 
59coldwater coyotes
      ID: 499401819
      Mon, Oct 09, 2017, 10:45
I noticed that Kobe Bryant is available to be picked up and is owned by 11.1% !!!
 
60Bean
      ID: 304422310
      Mon, Oct 09, 2017, 11:26
Must be making a come back, wants to retire a third number.
 
61Species
      ID: 2191810
      Mon, Oct 09, 2017, 12:21
Draft will be up within the hour.......
 
62Species
      ID: 2191810
      Mon, Oct 09, 2017, 12:56
OK. Draft is open.

Please carefully review the draft order. I did it custom so I wouldn't have to enter all of the offseason trades. I did just enter the yr/GO 3rd/6th swap.....
 
63Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Oct 09, 2017, 12:59
PS - special thanks to Tosh for the assist. He cleaned up ESPN and processed the trades so that the ESPN database is clean.

My tardiness has left us, for now, with no way for teams to pick up their own players. That will have to reside with me until everyone clears waivers.

Once waivers are done, it will then be each managers' responsibility to pick up their own players in ESPN! Please do so judiciously to help your leaguemates scour the available players.
 
64GO
      ID: 13471611
      Mon, Oct 09, 2017, 13:26
1.01 Dennis Smith picked after weeks of deliberation.

I’m looking to do one of two things my extra picks.

Package 1.16, 1.18 and 2.01 to trade up to the top 10.

I’d also trade any of them for a 1st rounder next year. I am not going to need this much depth right now.

Why not speed up your timeline and use next year’s top pick this year instead!?!
 
65Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Oct 10, 2017, 10:45
From the treasurer:

Prize pool dues for the coming season are $15. There is no assessment for a trophy fund again this year, as that is amply funded.

Several managers have funds on account to cover all or part of the dues for 2017:
Species, WG (via baseball winnings), and Youngroman are fully covered.

BMD owes only $7.50, as he had $7.50 on account.

Perm Dude has opted out of the pool, so owes nothing.

Everyone else owes $15, according to my records. If you think I have missed any funds on account for you, please let me know.

Payments can be sent in either of the following ways:
1. Paypal: please send to davehall@rotoguru2.com. (Recipient will probably appear as Uncommon Cents LLC.) Designate this as “send money to friends and family”, and mark the payment only as G20 hoops.
2. Snail mail: check can be sent to the address listed at the bottom of this page:
http://rotoguru2.com/gurupatron-info.html
 
66Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Oct 10, 2017, 16:06
Thank you commissioners for your assistance in picking up with draft picks on ESPN.

NOTE TO MANAGERS: When waivers clear tonight, please make your way to ESPN and pick up your drafted player from the free agent pool and place him on your team! THANK YOU!
 
67ttucowboy
      ID: 8550318
      Tue, Oct 10, 2017, 16:49
Trade Alert

GO Trades:
2.01
2018 6th round pick

ttucowboy Trades:
6.18
2018 1st round pick

GO to confirm..
 
68Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Oct 10, 2017, 16:50
From GO via email:

Trade:

GO receives:
2017 6.18
2018 1st

ttucowboy receives
2017 2.01
2018 6th

Updated in Draftime. Fire away.
 
69Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Tue, Oct 10, 2017, 16:50
I call that confirmation!
 
71RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 5411522221
      Tue, Oct 10, 2017, 21:39
Blank...
 
72Species
      ID: 46252312
      Wed, Oct 11, 2017, 00:16
I have stopped the draft due to wolfer's picks. While Caleb Swanigan can possibly be defensible, Ty Lawson is not. Lawson is out of the NBA entirely.

I have emailed wolfer for clarification. Even so, I am not sure what answer would fulfill me:

1) Oops. Didn't know. I thought he was starting.
2) I despise this league and am screwing it up on purpose because you voted for Obama in 2008.
3) Is there a 3rd option?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Give me some time in the morning to consider options. Thanks.
 
73Perm Dude
      ID: 49829217
      Wed, Oct 11, 2017, 11:02
Is it too late to blame Obama?

:)
 
74Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Oct 11, 2017, 13:13
After much anguish, I have decided to remove wolfer from the league and draft effective immediately. I did this after conferring with a small handful of managers before arriving at this decision.

In discussing this, considering wolfer's longtime participation in Rotoguru leagues (including the current RIHC AAA, which he is drafting responsibly), I have come to the conclusion that he is not purposefully drafting poorly, but is simply unprepared to properly manage a team in this league. If you cannot research enough to see that Ty Lawson has signed with a Chinese team and is not in the NBA, that does not meet the standards of this league. Adding to that the lack of management last year as the only team not to meet GP minimums (and by quite a bit) and this decision is made easier. I don't mean to crap all over a guy, and I am really sorry to have to even explain it, but it requires explanation. Nothing personal.

One thing I would like the league to keep in mind is that wolfer stepped up to work with PacersFan in the first place to help him co-manage his team......and as PacersFan pulled away he took over. For that, I thank you and I do wish you well.

Unfortunately I do not see a way to turn back the clock and re-do pick 1.02. We just have to pick up the pieces from here and go forward.

==============================

Here is what we are doing:

1) Fred at Draftime is going to replace him in our draft with a second account of mine I just created (how many have been around long enough to recognize the name I made?). I am also hopeful he can reverse the Ty Lawson pick. If not, I will announce a replacement pick and we will move on.

2) WG and I (perhaps with other counsel/input - anyone want to volunteer to assist??) will complete the remainder of the draft for this franchise. We will do so with the thought of setting this franchise up with some upside assets for someone to take over sometime during the year.

3) A good idea in our discussions this morning was made --- the thought of possibly offering this franchise compensatory consideration heading into 2018. Perhaps a 7th keeper....perhaps a compensatory pick like in football in the form of an extra 1st rounder at the end of the round (i.e. 1.21). Think of it like an expansion franchise.

4) blue hen has generously accepted the job of being a temporarily custodian of the franchise just so we can replace wolfer in ESPN right away. He can help with daily roster moves and is wholly authorized to make waiver moves as well.

=========================================

Hopefully this is the best way to handle an unfortunate situation in a decisive manner. Feel free to post comments here -- although flames should be directed to me personally!! In all seriousness, please feel free to reach out to me via email with any concerns.
 
75Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Oct 11, 2017, 13:19
As soon as Fred can remove wolfer from the draft we will make the switch, correct the pick and turn the draft back on. We will be drafting a rookie so teams behind this pick can get their queues ready with that assumption.
 
76Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Oct 11, 2017, 13:33
I am using a workaround to get the draft re-started. Instead of drafting Ty Lawson, this franchise is taking Frank Ntikilina, PG, NY.

I have removed him from the Draftime database......so any managers that do not see this message will not be able to draft him. I have picked him up (and released Lawson) in ESPN.

The draft is now ready to proceed.
 
77RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 18150916
      Wed, Oct 11, 2017, 14:19
You're awesome Species! I think that is the best outcome for such a short timeframe. I like the extra keeper idea and could go either way on the compensation pick (dropping 5th and 6th rounder, if a 7th keeper is involved).
 
78RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 18150916
      Wed, Oct 11, 2017, 14:20
I wonder if my 1 person queue can last the approximate 100 selections until my next pick (3.20).
 
79twolves
      Dude
      ID: 811161317
      Wed, Oct 11, 2017, 14:21
Thanks,

Sounds like a good plan. I am happy to get draft moving since I will be very busy out of town from early Friday morning.

 
80KnicksFan
      ID: 78191912
      Wed, Oct 11, 2017, 14:34
Oh man, I thought the legend KB8ers had joined the league.
 
81VampireWeekend
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Wed, Oct 11, 2017, 15:05
I appreciate the quick efforts and agree action was warranted. Not sure I see the need for anything compensatory now. The team now has two good young prospects. Maybe not the two you or I or we would pick but legitimate well thought of prospects. Now we just carry on business as usual in my opinion.
 
82Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Wed, Oct 11, 2017, 15:14
80 -- wouldn't that have been awesome?? It was more of a shout out to a Smallworld God!

Since then, it made more sense to transfer it to blue hen's own account. He can help with making the picks, etc.
 
83 Bmd
      ID: 825715
      Wed, Oct 11, 2017, 15:45
3.03 available for a 2nd rounder next year.
 
84RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 5352110
      Wed, Oct 11, 2017, 19:35
bmd's third is no longer available.

bmd 2017.3.02
bmd 2016.6th
For
RSF 2017.6th
RFS 2018.2nd
 
85RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 5352110
      Wed, Oct 11, 2017, 19:36
Err 2018 not 2016 :)
 
86Bmd
      ID: 825715
      Wed, Oct 11, 2017, 19:42
Confirm.

More reason to cheer against rsf.
 
87Tosh
      Dude
      ID: 057721710
      Wed, Oct 11, 2017, 19:58
[84] is processed at draftime.

Still needs to be added to ESPN league page.
 
88RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 5352110
      Wed, Oct 11, 2017, 19:59
Ha! Atleast this year you are only One year away from being two years away...
 
89ttucowboy
      ID: 7657213
      Wed, Oct 11, 2017, 20:01
Damn, rsf beat me to the punch!
 
90Meatwads
      ID: 5863742
      Wed, Oct 11, 2017, 21:22
Pick 3.07 is available

I'm looking for a similar return in value as the trade that just occurred.

I reached out to ttucowboy first since he showed the most public interest in a pick. I'll give him first crack if he writes me back in time.

Anyone else who is interested, please contact me.
 
91ttucowboy
      ID: 8550318
      Wed, Oct 11, 2017, 21:54
Trade Alert

Meatwads trades:

2017 3.07
2018 6th round pick

ttucowboy trades:

2017 6.12
2018 2nd round pick

Meatwads to confirm..
 
92Meatwads
      ID: 5863742
      Wed, Oct 11, 2017, 21:58
Confirm
 
93Tosh
      Dude
      ID: 057721710
      Wed, Oct 11, 2017, 22:21
[91] is processed at draftime.

Still needs to be added to ESPN league page.
 
94jaydog
      ID: 57213279
      Thu, Oct 12, 2017, 14:25
Jaydog and RSF agree on a trade:

Jaydog receives picks:
3.20
4.07
4.20

RSF receives picks:
3.15
4.15
5.15

RSF to confirm.
 
95RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 5352110
      Thu, Oct 12, 2017, 14:29
Confirmed
 
96Tosh
      Dude
      ID: 057721710
      Thu, Oct 12, 2017, 14:36
[94] is processed at draftime.
 
97Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Thu, Oct 12, 2017, 18:48
Thanks Tosh for all of the Draftime processing. I have notated all of the trades on ESPN.
 
98Tosh
      Dude
      ID: 057721710
      Sat, Oct 14, 2017, 20:04
This might be the worst 24 hour period I've ever had with a G20 draft.

11 picks in 28.5 hours?!? And three were auto-picks.

 
99Tosh
      Dude
      ID: 057721710
      Mon, Oct 16, 2017, 17:24
The draft has been re-set, and re-entered. Transaction counter is re-set. Waiver order has been updated. All players are now on waivers.

Please check your teams for accuracy. Thanks.
 
100Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Oct 16, 2017, 17:34
THANK YOU TOSH!
 
101Species
      SuperDude
      ID: 07724916
      Mon, Oct 16, 2017, 17:47
As a last FYI -- our poor speed in drafting has caused us to get to this point only 1 day before the season opens. As such, players will still be on waivers after opening night. That is the cost of some slow drafting....so we will all have to deal with any consequences equally.