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| Posted by: RecycledSpinalFluid
- [5411522221] Wed, Oct 18, 2017, 21:53
The season is here! Good luck all. I'm aiming for that 4th place trophy! |
| | | 1 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5411522221
Wed, Oct 18, 2017, 21:53
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Stanley, thanks for the kick to the nuts. 0-13...really dude.
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| | | 2 | Bmd
ID: 825715
Wed, Oct 18, 2017, 22:00
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Darren Collison - 21 points 11 assists 2 steals. He's available for a 1st round pick.
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| | | 3 | jaydog
ID: 57213279
Thu, Oct 19, 2017, 10:28
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Nerlens Noel - 16 points, 11 boards (2 offensive), 3 blocks, 1 steal, 6-6 from the field, 4-4 from the line.
He's available for your two best players...
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| | | 4 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5411522221
Thu, Oct 19, 2017, 10:36
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Andre Roberson and Dillon Brooks? No way.
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| | | 5 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5411522221
Mon, Oct 23, 2017, 21:55
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Not a bad first week...both the Eastern and Western Conf. Player of the Week.
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| | | 6 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5352110
Wed, Oct 25, 2017, 12:28
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While I did pickup Diallo, I certainly hope the Brow is ok. He's rippin it up and is fun to watch.
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| | | 7 | WG
ID: 35338278
Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 11:24
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So, anyone want Gordon Hayward??
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| | | 8 | beastiemiked
ID: 481162721
Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 12:46
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Running away with the "moves" category. I love employing a new scrub everyday.
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| | | 10 | Species
SuperDude
ID: 07724916
Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 16:28
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Dayum RSF - starting a G20 thread yourself? Know your role, bro. Only the Commish does that. Penalty is vacating your 2016/2017 title!
I have interest in veteran players with low keeper value. Hit me up!!
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| | | 11 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5352110
Sat, Oct 28, 2017, 01:38
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As "REIGNING WORLD CHAMPION" I override the commish's decision. Instead, I will forfeit my previous championship...since it was about 2 decades ago.
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| | | 12 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5411522221
Mon, Oct 30, 2017, 00:04
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Its been a few years, but welcome back John Henson. Welcome back.
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| | | 13 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5411522221
Mon, Oct 30, 2017, 00:06
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And I love the bmd - Species trade, just because it has Zipser going back to bmd for atleast the 12th time this season.
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| | | 14 | Bmd
ID: 825715
Mon, Oct 30, 2017, 09:27
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Species sends 2018 1st round
Bmd sends 2018 4th round
Zipser is terrible but he notches a game played for me. That's all I really ask from him.
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| | | 15 | Species
SuperDude
ID: 07724916
Mon, Oct 30, 2017, 12:40
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Confirmed.
May have a barn owned by my 4th cousins former stepmom to mortgage too........
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| | | 16 | GO
ID: 565491620
Mon, Oct 30, 2017, 21:49
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I am looking to trade a F for a G. I've got like 6 forwards. Doesn't need to change the world, lots of mid level guys producing pretty well actually like Ingles, Skal and Prince. Also would move Blake who has been awesome for a more top level guy.
I'm making some offers the next few hours until football is over.
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| | | 17 | Species
SuperDude
ID: 07724916
Mon, Nov 06, 2017, 16:15
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Vampire Weekend - please hit me up. Sent some things your way to whatever email is linked to ESPN.
Thanks.
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| | | 18 | GO
ID: 565491620
Mon, Nov 06, 2017, 22:54
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Thanks for ESPN for finally updating Ben Simmons position of PG and fixing my lack of G problem. Only took 1/8th of the season. Frustrating considering he's never played an NBA game at PF and the ESPN player page even calls him a PG. I have no clue how they come up where there positions. I found some stuff on the Help page but it basically just says its open to their interpretation.
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| | | 19 | Meatwads
ID: 5863742
Wed, Nov 08, 2017, 05:54
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I'd like to thank Skinnee J's for picking up Greg Monroe off free agents. I've felt trapped for the last 3 years keeping him. Unable to trade him, unable to cut him, unable to compete with him, unable to truly rebuild with him around. The last remaining piece from the days when I used to compete.
Paul Millsap on the trade block
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| | | 20 | blue hen
ID: 5254718
Thu, Nov 09, 2017, 11:36
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Looking to trade Conley, Wade, Gay, and Iguodala for younger players. Let me know if you see a fit.
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| | | 21 | WG
ID: 53213822
Thu, Nov 09, 2017, 23:03
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Looking to trade Hayward for an uninjured player. Let me know if you see a fit.
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| | | 22 | ttucowboy
ID: 8550318
Fri, Nov 10, 2017, 00:03
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Looking for a healthy CP3. Let me know if you find him.
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| | | 23 | GO
ID: 13471611
Thu, Nov 16, 2017, 07:27
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I said it before when I didn't even consider picking him.... Lonzo jump shot is a joke and won't work in the NBA. How are you prepared your entire life practicing to be in the NBA and your shot looks like my 4 year old pushing a kickball at a regulation rim? Nobody ever fixed it?!
Nice game Ben and Embiid
TTP
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| | | 24 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Thu, Nov 16, 2017, 11:14
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Given his brother's propensity, I should have far more steals from Lonzo.
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| | | 25 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 18150916
Thu, Nov 16, 2017, 18:42
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Doh!
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| | | 26 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5411522221
Fri, Nov 17, 2017, 01:11
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Cliff Paul is going to be scary when he gets more court time with the Rockets. There were an easy 3-5 more dimes he could have had where you could tell guys are not used to each other yet.
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| | | 27 | Meatwads
ID: 5863742
Sat, Nov 18, 2017, 11:13
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Here's a general example of the type of trade talks I've had over the last 3 seasons...
Me : My best player if available
You : I'm interested. What do you want?
Me : Looking for a young player with upside that fits well with the rest of my core.
You : (Silence) I'll offer you my 11th best player and a meaningless draft pick.
Me : I'm good. I thought you were actually interested in making a trade. The reality is you're interested in taking advantage of me, and when it doesn't work, you just move on.
You : (Pretend you didn't get the email)
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| | | 28 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5352110
Sun, Nov 19, 2017, 15:56
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Man I haven't even got step four done yet...or did I just jump to step six?
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| | | 29 | beastiemiked
ID: 481162721
Sun, Nov 19, 2017, 23:23
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I usually get stuck at step 1 when I tell them Paul Zipser is available.
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| | | 30 | Meatwads
ID: 5863742
Tue, Nov 21, 2017, 10:27
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RSF - Haha! No, you didn't jump to step six. I figured after reaching step three you already had enough. It's hard to make a deal with you because your players are either too good or not good enough.
bmd - At this point, Paul Zipser is more appealing than Paul Millsap. I guess he'll have to average a triple-double before the league values him properly, Zipser that is.
My little example of trade talks was mostly out of frustration, although extremely accurate. After years of rebuilding (horribly I might add), I'm still years away from even being in the top 10. It might just be time to stop projecting who could become good, since I'm obviously terrible at it, and start playing this league like a one-year each season. At least then I'd have an opportunity to get in the money, as oppose to unloading my non-existent bank account to the same 3-4 managers for the next decade.
Ultimately I just want to encourage people to bring back trading in this league. G20 Baseball is so much more involved. It kinda just seems like everyone is going through the motions of setting lineups and finishing wherever they finish. The typical trade in this league is an older keeper from a rebuilding team for a draft pick. That's never going to change the power in this league, it's just too insignificant. Anyway, good luck to everyone. I'll be waiting on Bol Bol in 2019. Yes, that's a real person.
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| | | 31 | Species
SuperDude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Nov 21, 2017, 12:01
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30: I put a lot of that on me. I just do not push this league as I do baseball.
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| | | 32 | blue hen
ID: 5254718
Tue, Nov 21, 2017, 14:20
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In that vein, the Itinerant Wanderers are looking to get some youth in exchange for our older players. Rudy Gay, Dwyane Wade, Andre Iguodala and even Mike Conley have no business on the roster of a seriously rebuilding team. So let's get those offers in!
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| | | 33 | ttucowboy
ID: 8550318
Tue, Nov 21, 2017, 20:01
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I think trying to compare g20 hoops to g20 baseball is not an accurate comparison. Less positions, less players, less number of supplemental draft picks, no prospects/prospect picks. All of that is going to lead to less trading opportunities and makes it a different animal. With that said, I'm wondering what step I've made it to with meatwads. Lol
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| | | 34 | beastiemiked
ID: 481162721
Tue, Nov 21, 2017, 23:22
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I think young player with upside that you are looking for doesn't usually exist. If they have high upside they are probably already producing. If they are already producing they aren't that much of a downgrade from Millsap. Since they aren't that much of a downgrade this season a contender will usually look to upgrade somewhere else rather than trade off their contributing future superstar.
This is coming from a team that held onto Kobe for too long and got NOTHING in return and ultimately has been stinky for the last 10 years(at least it seems that long).
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| | | 35 | Meatwads
ID: 5863742
Wed, Nov 22, 2017, 09:56
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ttucowboy - That's a fair statement. Although, my first year in the league I talked with 12 managers in the week leading up to keepers. Maybe it was just because I was new and people were testing me out. At that point it was the most active basketball league I had ever participated in. As for what step you've made it to, I'd say 0 because we haven't talked about a trade this season. In the past, we have done the usual veteran for draft pick deal. Those types of deals have been very easy to make with you. Unfortunately those types of deals won't get me out of the basement.
bmd - Your team is filled with young players who have upside, and aren't currently producing at a high level. Jusuf Nurkic, Brandon Ingram, Marquese Chriss, Zach Lavine, Jabari Parker, Markelle Fultz and Jonathan Isaac all fit the criteria I'm talking about. Each of them has been significantly less valuable than Millsap, and each of them could be more valuable in the near future. Obviously you and I won't make a Millsap deal since you're in the same boat as me, but the type of players I'm talking about definitely exist.
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| | | 36 | GO
ID: 565491620
Wed, Nov 22, 2017, 23:31
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I'm selling 21 year old Skal Labassiere paired with a 1st round pick for a veteran G/F.
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| | | 37 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 18150916
Mon, Nov 27, 2017, 18:55
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Good lord, please tell me there are like 8 1st rounder for 6th rounder picks going to PD in that deal.
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| | | 38 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Tue, Nov 28, 2017, 01:12
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Oladipo having a pretty good year (22.8 pts/game). If he's causing trouble in the locker room or demanding a trade, I could've helped ;).
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| | | 39 | Species
SuperDude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Nov 28, 2017, 19:28
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37: I do agree that this trade is difficult to understand.
I can see that Barton could be emerging into a solid young player, however some of his time is due to the injury of others, leaving his mini-breakout up for debate. But IMO there is no way that he is the equal of Oladipo.
I think Greg Monroe is an obvious misfit in today's NBA. While he can be productive in Fantasy and has a place somewhere, in the real NBA he is often a liability so IMO he is not someone to target at all in keeper leagues. He has a place on teams for sure, but his move to PHO is not some precursor to a return to 30 mpg type playing time.
Oladipo has thrived and has turned into a stud. High %s, 23 ppg, 5 boards, nearly 4 ast, 2.5 threes PLUS over a steal and block a game.
MAYBE you can suggest Barton and Monroe could equal him.......but to add Ryan Anderson (admittedly a flawed player but 3 threes and some boards with decent FG and strong FT) to it doesn't add up to me.
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| | | 40 | Perm Dude
ID: 471057309
Thu, Nov 30, 2017, 10:58
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Sorry I didn't see this discussion previously. I actually came by to ask a question (that I'll ask separately, below).
Essentially, I feel like I am selling Oladipo high. He's having a career year, but his stats as *so* much higher than his career averages I feel he's going to drop down to earth soon. He's been on my team since 2014 and he's been a steady source of treys, steals, and some points. But he's inflated this year, a lot, and it is time to move him.
Anderson, of course, is a three-point specialist, which I really don't need. I need the rebounding help of a Monroe (also, because Whiteside is my only Center-eligible player).
Nene is a throw-in.
Barton has some upside to him and I think he's in a system which will give him a lot of lead.
Johnson, similarly, is on a team where he's going to put up a lot of numbers going forward.
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| | | 41 | Perm Dude
ID: 471057309
Thu, Nov 30, 2017, 11:03
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Maybe this has been discussed before but I've never seen it.
I've been poking around about the right ratio between points and rebounds. In the past I've probably overemphasized points as the most flashy of the stats which not emphasizing rebounds enough.
Looking at some historical data, it looks as if those who finish near the top might have a ration of about 30-35% for rebounds to points, meaning that all other things being equal a guy pulling down 8-9 rebounds/game is about as valuable in the rebounding category as a guy knocking down 25 pts/game.
[putting aside associated stats--the shooter is likely to get better FT% while the rebounder is likely to get better FG%, etc]
I'm curious is other managers also find some stats to be ones they tend to value more, and if this is reflected in drafting and waiver pickups.
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| | | 42 | Perm Dude
ID: 471057309
Thu, Nov 30, 2017, 11:08
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I'd been thinking about the above question for some time, but it was more focused after seeing Kyle O'Quinn's stat line of last night: 4/4 from the field, 1/1 from the line with 7 rebounds an assist and a steal.
That's a stat line I'll take from a F position any day of the week, despite only getting 9 points.
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| | | 43 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Mon, Dec 04, 2017, 22:38
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E'twaun Moore making me look like a genius. 18, 19, 27 pts in three games since i picked him up.
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| | | 44 | Tosh
Dude
ID: 057721710
Tue, Dec 05, 2017, 17:47
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7 weeks into the season ... How am I in first place?? I didn't have great keepers. I didn't get any steals in the draft. My first round pick was useless. I have three Atlanta Hawks. My players (except Love) are not playing above their heads.
Great keeper - Towns
Good keepers - DeRozan, Schroder, Love
Iffy keeper - Saric
Shouldn't have been a keeper - Aminu
1st Round pick (Lin) - Lost for season on Game 1
My starting 8 ... Using current ESPN rankings for season-to-date --
Towns - 6th
Love - 11th
DeRozan - 53rd
Schroder - 56th
Bazemore - 76th (Pick 2.11)
Saric - 85th
Green - 100th (Pick 5.11)
Randolph - 102nd (Pick 3.11)
I must be in first place just because of 'Games Played' ... Where I'm currently in 2nd. I expect that RSF, Species, TTU, and Stanforders all pass me by the end of the month.
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| | | 45 | ttucowboy
ID: 8550318
Tue, Dec 05, 2017, 18:37
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I get CP3 back for several games and now Steph will miss at least a couple of weeks. Whyyyyy. Grrrrrr. On a serious note, I'm surprised it's only a couple of weeks. That was a nasty ankle roll.
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| | | 46 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 18150916
Wed, Dec 06, 2017, 18:40
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Curry's ankle looked like it did a complete 90 degree angle.
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| | | 47 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Fri, Dec 08, 2017, 23:59
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I can honestly say, I never thought I would sniff first place with my team. And, I don't even have the highest GP.
Gonna enjoy it while it lasts.
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| | | 48 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5352110
Sun, Dec 10, 2017, 13:13
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I'm enjoying that there are so many (10+?) legitimate competitive teams playing, not just a handful.
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| | | 49 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5352110
Thu, Dec 14, 2017, 00:42
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Some day I will have all 6 of my keepers healthy at the same time...maybe.
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| | | 50 | Bmd
ID: 825715
Thu, Dec 14, 2017, 22:45
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3 of my 6 keepers are out(2 since the start of the season). My 3 first round picks are all out. All guys under 24. Since my team is obviously not competing it's not a bad thing. It's just not fun shuffling crappy guards just so I can meet the minimum games played. Also doesn't help that in always end up missing 1-2 starts a week because I forget to reshuffle my lineup. End rant
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| | | 51 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Fri, Dec 15, 2017, 09:35
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Reshuffling your lineup is the definition of staying active in the league. If you are not doing it, you aren't really even playing the game.
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| | | 52 | beastiemiked
ID: 481162721
Fri, Dec 15, 2017, 23:35
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I've been doing it. I've missed a handful of games since I sometimes forget or incorrectly think I set my lineup and in reality I didn't. I have 30 more transactions than anyone else so I don't think you could say I'm not really playing the game.
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| | | 53 | GO
ID: 565491620
Sat, Dec 16, 2017, 00:06
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Sure would be nice if ESPN added the one-click "start all active players" button like Yahoo.
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| | | 54 | ttucowboy
ID: 8550318
Sat, Dec 16, 2017, 01:44
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CP3 is good at basketball. Get well soon Steph!
I also echo what RSF said in post 48. It's great to see so many teams competing. Should be fun the rest of the way.
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| | | 55 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5411522221
Sat, Dec 16, 2017, 14:55
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I've been from first to worst back to first. There are periods in that whole phase where I'll forget to make some moves. Shit happens.
I think the bottom five (from experience) offers another type of competition. Fantasy players have been doing "The Process" long before Sam Hinkie. I enjoyed being terrible. Dealing mediocre players for 1st rounders...hell yes. Tanking for better picks...oh...I never would do that...(no need to look back on that...) Rotating through the ass end of the player list, looking for the next guy you can flip (or keep). I remember having and holding Mirotic when he was still a year away from the league. I also remember drafting Des Mason over Dwight Howard, although I'm not sure that was a bad move, as his FT% kill most roster builds.
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| | | 56 | Bmd
ID: 825715
Sat, Dec 16, 2017, 21:55
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GO, that feature would be so nice.
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| | | 57 | Meatwads
ID: 5863742
Tue, Dec 19, 2017, 13:14
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I know I'm late to this discussion, but I want to throw in my two cents.
Perm Dude said, "Essentially, I feel like I am selling Oladipo high"
I want to make something clear. You are well within your rights to trade anyone you want. But there are 18 other managers in the league who could've matched or significantly beat the offer you accepted. Oladipo is 25 years old, entering his prime, as a former #2 overall selection who is currently among the top 10 players in the league right now. If you were selling high on him you would've gotten a much better package. YOU DIDN'T EVEN LET THE LEAGUE KNOW HE WAS AVAILABLE. It's truly mind-boggling.
As far as I'm concerned, you traded your best player for replacement level players. Now Oladipo will remain on his new roster for the next 5-7 years and you'll be left with a 6th man (Barton) and a big man (Monroe) with little to no chance of becoming significantly valuable again. I truly believe this trade takes you out of contention for the foreseeable future. For your sake, let's hope I'm as bad at breaking down trades as I am at rebuilding.
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| | | 58 | Species
SuperDude
ID: 07724916
Mon, Jan 08, 2018, 17:19
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I need to announce that I will be stepping down as Commissioner of this league at the end of the season.
This league has not flourished as baseball has due to (in my opinion) my overall lack of leadership/pushing/prodding/etc and the league deserves better. While I enjoy G20 Hoops, I do not have the same passion for it that I do baseball, and I am done doing it half-assed.
I reached out to a few managers last year to see if any had interest in replacing me. The responses were basically a combination of "Not it!" and "Good luck". So, I have to do it the hard way and just throw it out there that I will not return to the duties, and if the league wants to continue that someone else will need to step up.
Please contact me directly to discuss. Thanks.
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| | | 59 | GO
ID: 565491620
Tue, Jan 09, 2018, 22:20
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Well thats no good. Not the leader I was hoping would be out of power in 2018.
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| | | 60 | GO
ID: 13471611
Fri, Jan 12, 2018, 14:43
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TRADE Blake Griffin + GO worst 1ST round pick to WG for Gordon Hayward. GO must keep at least that one 1st round pick so it can be conveyed at draft.
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| | | 61 | WG
Donor
ID: 35338278
Fri, Jan 12, 2018, 15:05
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Confirmed
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| | | 62 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5352110
Fri, Jan 12, 2018, 20:04
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I知 trying to understand the pick swap. Is that his first for your worst first?
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| | | 63 | GO
ID: 565491620
Fri, Jan 12, 2018, 21:19
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Just my worst first rounder. I have 3 of them. And i guess for his last round pick if we want to clarify.
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| | | 64 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5352110
Fri, Jan 12, 2018, 21:44
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OK, thanks. I was just confused, which isn稚 too unusual.
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| | | 65 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5352110
Fri, Feb 23, 2018, 12:46
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This looks all too familiar.
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| | | 66 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5411522221
Tue, Feb 27, 2018, 10:34
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Trade Announcement:
With the NBA trade deadline having passed, coldwater coyotes and I have completed a waiver wire trade of Stanley Johnson for Robin Lopez. No draft picks are involved.
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| | | 67 | ttucowboy
ID: 7657213
Tue, Feb 27, 2018, 12:39
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65: I'm trying to make things interesting!
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| | | 68 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5411522221
Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 00:39
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Is BH going to reach 656 GPs?
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| | | 69 | beastiemiked
ID: 825715
Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 09:39
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Doesn't even look possible.
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| | | 70 | Species
SuperDude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 13:04
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68, 69: Does it matter if we do not have a league next year?
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| | | 71 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5411522221
Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 00:37
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Is there a mass defection occurring? I understand that you are leaving the Commish role, but is that the harbinger of doom?
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| | | 72 | Species
SuperDude
ID: 07724916
Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 13:09
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71: Well, in the absence of anyone stepping up to volunteer to take over, what else am I supposed to assume?
I realize my apathetic leadership has allowed the league to fall into disrepair, so I place most of the blame upon myself and apologize to all of you. That said, I am really disappointed by the equally apathetic lack of response by the league.
I have received ONE email (and only after my recent post) with an offer to possibly be a steward for the league for a year or two. Not exactly the enthusiastic permanent passing of the torch I was looking for. The league needs work in raising the standards of the participants to create a much more vigorous competition for the top, resulting in more trading and discussion. Perhaps my comparison to baseball is not fair, as Hoops is just inherently less active without prospects or more ways to transform bad teams into good teams.
I will not be returning. The league will also need a replacement for the team that blue hen jumped into at the last minute.
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| | | 73 | ttucowboy
ID: 35226100
Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 08:11
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My team picked a lovely time to catch the injury bug. Steph done, CP3 hobbled, Warren about to miss 6th straight game. Ugh, so close too!
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| | | 74 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 18150916
Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 17:42
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I will be sorry to see you go, as a long standing owner. Since this is my only fantasy sports team (outside my recent dalliance with RG-AAA), I'd hate to see this league disappear. There are definitely active teams top to bottom, so I doubt it disappears, but perhaps it does. We'll have to discuss that. Maybe you can email me activities involved as the commish, because I know I put in way to many hours into my team to be considered healthy, so I'm definitely invested.
We should definitely see if there are other owners that want in (and conversely out), otherwise, Contraction? Complete redraft? Partial redraft? Hand the titles over to me in perpetuity? Change keeper structure? Add prospects? Stuff.
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| | | 75 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 22:34
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I cant imagine we dont have at least 10 of 20 teams wanting to return. If we shrink the league its really no big deal, though we will have a dillema like the Big 12. Plenty of time to figure this out.
BTW, I was the one who Species mentioned in <72>, but I told him I would do it only if nobody else was interested, and I would not want to do it for more than a year or two.
So, bottom line is this, as is always the case with these leagues. Come next July/August we do a role call, find replacement managers, decide if the league needs to be shrunk or not and press on. Nothing unique about this league in that regard.
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| | | 76 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Apr 07, 2018, 16:51
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Trade:
GO gets Kyrie Irving plus Guru's 4th round pick in the upcoming draft.
Guru gets Dennis Smith, Taurean Prince, and GO's first round pick in the upcoming draft.
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| | | 77 | GO
ID: 14143919
Sun, Apr 08, 2018, 01:04
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Confirmed
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| | | 78 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 10:28
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Grats RSF; dominating performance.
Had fun in the fight for 6th this year.
Hope to see you all here in this thread next year.
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| | | 79 | twolves
ID: 5311152613
Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 12:56
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Congrats to RSF. Interesting fight for 6th place again this year especially with GO sixers rapid late surge.
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| | | 80 | Species
SuperDude
ID: 07724916
Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 13:18
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Congratulations RSF. Back to back is hella impressive.
In terms of next year, Bean has volunteered to be a steward to the league and Commish for a year or two. For now, I have added him to having League Manager authorities (along with Guru and Tosh who already have those authorities). I will wait until next summer/fall when the league is re-organizing before transferring full Commish powers to the elected commissioner of choice. That will be up to the league. My hope would be that someone steps up to lead the league forward with better, more active managers resulting in more discussion, trading and overall activity.
I am sorry I stopped being that guy.
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| | | 81 | ttucowboy
ID: 35226100
Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 21:45
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Congrats RSF! Well done and well deserved.
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| | | 82 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5411522221
Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 00:53
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Definitely don't think it was dominance, as it was within 1 pretty late in the season. Frankly I am surprised at the lead size...but will gladly take it.
I was fortunate that I didn't have any major injuries to my top 4 keepers. #5 (Gallo) and #6 (Hood), on the other hand, could just not stay healthy at all. Ask Species about stud injuries. That Boogie injury just decimated his team.
I think the real kicker for me was FA pickups Niko Mirotic, Bobby Portis and John Henson. Those guys killed it (especially Bobby against Niko).
Weirdest stat? 7 points on 3-Pointers, while featuring James MVP Harden. I think he might have accounted for my whole 3P total.
Favorite Player? Jrue Holiday. Easy to say Harden and Giannis, but it was great to see a fully healthy Jrue. Its been a while.
Favorite Non-Previous-Keeper? Jarrett Allen. He's probably my new #6 keeper. Dude is still 19. This years rookie class is phenominal, so much so that this guy barely registers, but thats fine my me. Capela 1.1.
Thanks for everyone who stayed commited til the end. Thanks for everyone who rejected my silly trade offers. So wanted to pull the trigger on a GO trade, but just couldn't do it. (Mumbles something about believing in Gallo returning to help with 3s...arrrrgg!)
Good luck and don't forget to tip your waiter.
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| | | 83 | Tosh
Dude
ID: 057721710
Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 01:21
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Congrats to RSF!
I had the lead for awhile, but knew I didn't have the horses to compete against the big-3. I've got a studly Karl-Anthony Towns ... but RSF, TTU, and SANFORDERS all have multiple studly guys better than my #2 (DeRozan).
On 01/30, Kevin Love got injured. Two days later, on 02/01, the 'Kevin Love Fan Club' fell out of first place. It was a fun ride for a few months.
Still not bad, considering that I lost my round 1 pick for the season on game #1 of the season.
Until next time ...
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| | | 84 | skinneej
ID: 42692211
Fri, Apr 13, 2018, 14:14
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Congrats to RSF again on winning it all, and all the other managers that were still fighting for top 6 up until the last few days. I did everything I could to squeeze into 6th, but ultimately fell short. Wall and Booker missing big chunks of the season cost me and couldn't make up the shortfall with replacements. I've still got a pretty good young core of keepers, so hoping to stay relevant next year.
I'm sorry to see Species step down as Commish, but understand the time commitment that is needed and desire to focus on G20 baseball. I've run keeper/dynasty leagues in the past (although not this big) and I'm willing to help out as needed, but don't have the time to fully commit either.
NBA Hoops is my #1 sports passion, and I even found myself not all that engaged early this season after the draft was over. I'm usually a "check the boxscores every night" kind of player and it was Dec before I really got into it. I think our hoops format is a little different than other fantasy sports and is harder to make trades that fit both parties. I've been guilty of throwing out some wild initial offers at times just to see if we can get a discussion going, and I'm surprised sometimes by the responses in a league this deep and with long running managers. Maybe in our older ages we are less receptive to these type offers than we used to be. I used to not care what was offered, I would always look for a counter, but the last few years I think there are only a handful of managers that seem willing to really negotiate. I think my one big trade earlier in the season was the only one of note in several years for me, so I'll go back into my hole and hope to develop my team through the draft and waiver pickups.
I look forward to next year, and given the 1-2 holes we need to fill I'm hopefully we can do that and not lose anyone else. I'd like to see this league stay at 20 and not be forced to contract.
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| | | 85 | beastiemiked
ID: 481162721
Sat, Apr 14, 2018, 12:35
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Congrats rsf.
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| | | 86 | Species
SuperDude
ID: 07724916
Mon, Apr 16, 2018, 10:42
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ROTISSERIE POINTS
RK TEAM PLAYERS TOTAL
PTS TOTAL
CHG
FG% FT% 3PM OREB REB AST STL BLK PTS
1 Freak Like Me 20 11 7 18 19 13 16 20 20 144 +0
2 ttu cowboy 19 6 10 19 20 16 18 10 17 135 -1
3 SAN FORDORS 10 19 18 8 9 19 15 17 19 134 +2
4 Kevin Love Fan Club 5 20 19 16 17 11 11 6.5 18 123.5 +0.5
5 GO Sixers 16 4 6 15 18 17 13 19 11 119 +0
6 twolves 20 8 18 17 13 7 10 8 15 15 111 +2.5
6 Bean's Buckeyes 13 14 20 2 12 20 6 8 16 111 -0.5
8 Jay dog 17 15 8 14 11 9 7 14 14 109 -3
9 Skinnee J's 9 10 11 11 8 15 20 11 13 108 -1.5
10 Wazaaap Guy 14 17 12 4 10 18 9 13 10 107 +0.5
11 youngroman's Luschen 15 16 9 17 15 8 12 4 7 103 +1
12 Roto Guru 18 12 5 20 16 3 10 2 9 95 +0
13 Hard To Be A KnicksFan 6 1 16 7 13 12 14 18 4 91 -1
14 Endangered Species 4 7 14 12 14 14 4 3 12 84 -1
15 coldwater coyotes 3 13 4 9 3 6 17 16 6 77 -1
16 Vampire Weekend 7 9 13 3 5 7 19 5 8 76 +0
17 Team Perm Dudes 11 8 15 10 6 5 3 6.5 5 69.5 +0.5
18 beastie miked 12 2 2 5 4 2 2 12 2 43 +1
19 Mighty Meatwads 2 3 3 6 2 4 5 9 3 37 +1
20 Itinerant Wanderers 1 5 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 13 +0
SEASON STATS
RK TEAM PLAYERS GP MOVES
FG% FT% 3PM OREB REB AST STL BLK PTS
1 Freak Like Me .4909 .7788 862 1056 4520 2264 735 611 11444 721 40
2 ttu cowboy .4838 .7676 949 1181 4593 2457 754 396 10928 723 31
3 SAN FORDORS .4616 .8140 1113 735 3597 2632 734 455 11139 718 23
4 Kevin Love Fan Club .4522 .8366 1124 906 4283 2099 658 375 10933 719 13
5 GO Sixers .4716 .7199 821 899 4306 2483 667 500 9830 705 16
6 twolves 20 .4567 .8133 1105 830 3533 2076 621 427 10766 724 14
6 Bean's Buckeyes .4682 .7897 1200 628 3942 2673 614 377 10849 722 10
8 Jay dog .4779 .7924 917 866 3853 2069 617 426 10713 707 14
9 Skinnee J's .4574 .7772 950 792 3580 2394 828 403 10120 721 38
10 Wazaaap Guy .4685 .8077 960 670 3658 2619 625 423 9817 720 61
11 youngroman's Luschen .4713 .7969 919 992 4170 2056 663 352 9418 724 23
12 Roto Guru .4796 .7812 814 1236 4206 1600 632 333 9678 712 3
13 Hard To Be A KnicksFan .4532 .6932 1026 730 4009 2222 698 479 8635 715 18
14 Endangered Species .4516 .7713 963 810 4118 2349 600 339 9968 665 10
15 coldwater coyotes .4474 .7861 747 740 3277 1861 738 437 8900 696 11
16 Vampire Weekend .4556 .7768 961 649 3367 2000 767 371 9570 696 3
17 Team Perm Dudes .4617 .7714 991 786 3497 1753 557 375 8896 693 39
18 beastie miked .4642 .6981 506 708 3292 1275 476 415 7238 678 128
19 Mighty Meatwads .4446 .7129 573 729 2830 1638 603 392 7581 692 19
20 Itinerant Wanderers .4315 .7500 462 425 2001 1124 362 212 4779 582 8
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| | | 87 | GO
ID: 565491620
Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 01:01
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Congrats to RSF
Sorry to see Species step down, I would also help commish in some type of CBC (Commish by Commitee? Cabinet)... does Guru already do Treasury? Perhaps we can have a Secretary of Draft. Trade Minister. Social Media coordinator. VP of Enthusiasm and Trade Talk.
I probably made more trade offers than anyone all year. And I got a few rude responses. The deals get blurry after a while when you don't get useful feedback so there probably were some bad offers. But they are always just a starting point like 2SJ said. We had only 3 in season deals. And I got 2 of them done, so A for effort.
My squad made a late push I think just from being behind on GP, and set up pretty well with keepers.I am not married to either Kyrie or Gordon Hayward, I just saw good fits to trade package deals to condense my keepers. And I really don't think I want both Celtics (considering I have 2 Sixers Trust The Process!). So anyone with Irving and Hayward interest inquire within for comparable players.
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| | | 88 | GO
ID: 565491620
Tue, Apr 17, 2018, 01:07
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Congrats to RSF
Sorry to see Species step down, I would also help commish in some type of CBC (Commish by Commitee? Cabinet)... does Guru already do Treasury? Perhaps we can have a Secretary of Draft. Trade Minister. Social Media coordinator. VP of Enthusiasm and Trade Talk.
I probably made more trade offers than anyone all year. And I got a few rude responses. The deals get blurry after a while when you don't get useful feedback so there probably were some bad offers. But they are always just a starting point like 2SJ said. We had only 3 in season deals. And I got 2 of them done, so A for effort.
My squad made a late push I think just from being behind on GP, and set up pretty well with keepers.I am not married to either Kyrie or Gordon Hayward, I just saw good fits to trade package deals to condense my keepers. And I really don't think I want both Celtics (considering I have 2 Sixers Trust The Process!). So anyone with Irving and Hayward interest inquire within for comparable players. I would even package either with Cauley Stein was was incredible the last part of the season and helped push me into a top 5 finish if the pairing got me up to a 1st round talent.
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| | | 89 | Species
SuperDude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Aug 21, 2018, 17:28
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I hope everyone is having a good summer.
So, a friend called me out a little bit in regards to my rather harsh attitude about stepping down from the league. He said I could have done it a lot better and not sound like I was crapping all over the league.......
While he was spot on, honestly it was very purposeful on my part.......and not because of any wish to see the league stop or be hurt in any way, shape or form.........but mostly I did it the way I did as a wake up call for somebody to legitimately step up and lead the league in the manner in which it deserves. I became very frustrated with the lack of response so I decided to go with the shock factor.
G20 is a difficult league to win, and it takes a lot of attention to keep it running smoothly. You have to check in on managers, monitor activity, but most of all you need to promote a vibrant community where everyone is challenged to succeed. Stagnancy is the death of this type of deep keeper league, and I was NOT doing my job. I just kind of administered it.
So, please accept my apologies.
But it is also soon time to get down to business, and it is up to the 19 of you to figure out what you want to be and who can lead it. I still hold the keys as "league founder" and that needs to be transitioned sometime soon.
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| | | 90 | beastiemiked
ID: 35282121
Mon, Aug 27, 2018, 16:05
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I am resigning as well. I just don稚 follow hoops anymore and as much as I壇 like to win this league again, I don稚 know if I have the commitment to do so. Thanks everyone for the ride. Good luck!
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| | | 91 | GO
ID: 565491620
Tue, Sep 11, 2018, 21:27
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Species, any thought to just playing in the league and enjoying yourself?
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| | | 92 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 10:06
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Time for a roll call. Who is in?
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| | | 93 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5352110
Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 14:31
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Like everyone here I have way too much stuff on my real life plate, so of course I知 in.
I can稚 believe we are already 2 weeks away from camp starting.
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| | | 94 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 15:59
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in
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| | | 95 | Tosh
Dude
ID: 057721710
Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 17:30
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in
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| | | 96 | twolves
ID: 316312520
Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 20:53
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in
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| | | 97 | ttucowboy
ID: 51737190
Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 21:28
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In
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| | | 98 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 22:38
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In
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| | | 99 | youngroman
ID: 20555612
Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 02:59
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In
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| | | 101 | WG
Donor
ID: 35338278
Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 15:44
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In
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| | | 102 | Vampireweekend
ID: 40857145
Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 06:57
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In
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| | | 103 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 13:48
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Apparently Species gave me Commish privileges for the league. I have renewed the league on ESPN and you should get an invite to rejoin. Please do so quickly so we can get an idea how many new managers we need.
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| | | 104 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 13:55
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There was some talk last season about a shared responsibility for this league. If you would like to help, please let me know what role you would like to have. I know Guru is the treasurer, and I believe there were a couple people who usually help with the draft. If someone ones to take ownership of rules and the constitution, that would be a big help.
All of that said, our #1 objective needs to be the roll call and replacement managers. If you know someone who hasn't chimed in here, and have access to them via other methods besides this forum and the e-mail at ESPN, please remind them to chime in for roll call.
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| | | 105 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 16:21
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I will renew the draft on draftime. I can't commit to setting up keepers or handling draft snafus, though, as I'll be traveling from Oct 3-9, which is probably prime time for those activities.
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| | | 106 | Coldwater coyotes
ID: 49833150
Sat, Sep 15, 2018, 01:33
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In
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| | | 107 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Sat, Sep 15, 2018, 02:17
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So far there are three managers who are leaving:
bluehen
Species
BMD
There are five others I have not heard from:
skinneej
jaydog
Perm Dude
KnicksFan
Meatwads
If you have candidates who would be interested in this league please let us know. We have three openings at least. If you know any of the five no shows above, please inform them that we are doing a roll call.
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| | | 108 | Jaydog
ID: 485157
Sat, Sep 15, 2018, 08:05
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Im in!
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| | | 109 | Meatwads
ID: 88481611
Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 12:48
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In
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| | | 110 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 14:16
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Tentative Calendar:
SAT 29 SEP - New manager search ends
MON 01 OCT - Assign team selection order for new managers; team selection starts
FRI 05 OCT 11:59 PM Eastern - Keeper Deadline
SUN 07 OCT - Draft Turned On
MON 08 OCT 11:59 PM Eastern - Draft Clock on
TUE 16 OCT - Season Starts
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| | | 111 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 14:36
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In
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| | | 113 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 16:19
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So far there are three managers who are leaving:
bluehen
Species
BMD
There are two others I have not heard from:
Perm Dude
KnicksFan
If you have candidates who would be interested in this league please let us know. We have three openings at least. If you know Perm Dude or KnicksFan, please inform them that we are doing a roll call.
Here are the five rosters currently available, though KnicksFan and PermDude may still be claimed:
bluehen
Frank Kaminsky
Frank Ntilikina
Malik Monk
Dwight Powell
Lance Stephenson
Dwyane Wade
Caleb Swanigan
Zach Collins
Mike Conley
Rudy Gay
Dragan Bender
Justise Winslow
Species
Pau Gasol
Russell Westbrook
Troy Daniels
Carmelo Anthony
Tobias Harris
Wilson Chandler
Darren Collison
Ryan Anderson
DeMarcus Cousins
Evan Fournier
Emmanuel Mudiay
Corey Brewer
BMD
Jusuf Nurkic
Markelle Fultz
Frank Mason III
Jabari Parker
Jonathan Isaac
Brandon Ingram
Lauri Markkanen
Montrezl Harrell
Marquese Chriss
Zach LaVine
Willy Hernangomez
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Perm Dude
Hassan Whiteside
Austin Rivers
Joe Harris
Jerami Grant
Reggie Jackson
Tim Hardaway Jr.
Will Barton
Tyreke Evans
DeMarre Carroll
Ed Davis
Kosta Koufos
Emeka Okafor
KnicksFan
Rajon Rondo
Wayne Ellington
Draymond Green
Robert Covington
Kyle Kuzma
Trevor Ariza
Dwight Howard
Malcolm Brogdon
Andrew Harrison
Yogi Ferrell
Kyle O'Quinn
Noah Vonleh
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| | | 114 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 16:55
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Here is a list of the pick trades I could find:
<14>
Species sends his 2018 1st round
BMD sends his 2018 4th round
<60-63>
GO sends his worst 2018 1st round
WG sends his 2018 last pick
<76>
GO sends his 2018 1st round
Guru sends his 2018 4th round
Have I missed or misrepresented any?
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| | | 115 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 158151719
Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 20:15
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From last years preseason thread (double check'em)
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(84)
bmd 2018.6th
For
RSF 2018.2nd
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(67)
ttucowboy 2018 1st
for
GO 2018 6th
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(91)
Meatwads 2018 6th
for
ttucowboy 2018 2nd
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| | | 116 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Tue, Sep 18, 2018, 10:10
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Perm Dude checked in via e-mail last night
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| | | 117 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Tue, Sep 18, 2018, 10:48
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I have a prospective owner who asked a good question. If we end up needing to contract, how are pick trades handled, when one of the teams is going to be dissolved?
I think we should set the order, assign the traded picks, THEN remove the teams.
Thoughts?
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| | | 118 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Sep 18, 2018, 10:57
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We still need to run the draft lottery, right?
Looks like the only team that failed to reach the GP minimums was blue hen, but our precedent is that if a manager leaves the league, any activity penalties (i.e., lottery seeding) are waived for the new manager.
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| | | 119 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Tue, Sep 18, 2018, 14:16
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<118> Yes, guess now is as good a time as any to run it.
Haven't researched it, but if that is our precedent, then no penalty.
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| | | 120 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Sep 18, 2018, 15:45
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Here's the question. Do you want the lottery run now, before new teams are assigned?
Or wait until after new managers are selected and assigned to teams? The issue is whether, when selecting a new team, a new manager will know whether the team has wona premier lottery pick, or whether the lottery is still TBD. The three teams up for replacement are currently "seeded" 1, 3, and 7 in the lottery.
There may be a precedent, but I don't know what it is.
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| | | 121 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Tue, Sep 18, 2018, 16:36
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How bout we ask the replacement managers what they would like to do prior to finding out what order they pick teams in?
I may have two teams new owners now, anybody else got any bites?
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| | | 122 | Meatwads
ID: 7527232
Tue, Sep 18, 2018, 18:46
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I have one guy I'm planning to talk to tonight, but I'm not sure if he's an ideal candidate. We should view him as more of an emergency last minute fill-in. He'll do a good job drafting and trading, but once the grind of setting lineups for months kicks in, I'm skeptical he'll stay on top of it.
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| | | 123 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 18:03
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Florian has agreed to join us, though his friend has decided not to. I think most should know Florian from RIHC, and either looking forward to competing with him again, or dreading it.
In either case, welcome Florian.
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| | | 124 | Florian
ID: 298441917
Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 18:44
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Hello everyone,
Thank you for letting me join your dynasty league :). I知 looking forward to playing with you all.
I fully expect my team to be terrible to start, but will do my best to make my team competitive over the next couple of years.
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| | | 125 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 19:13
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Welcome Florian. I certainly remember some good battles in RIHC several years back. Good luck with one of these franchises!
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| | | 126 | Florian
ID: 298441917
Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 19:26
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Hello everyone,
Thank you for letting me join your dynasty league :). I知 looking forward to playing with you all.
I fully expect my team to be terrible to start, but will do my best to make my team competitive over the next couple of years.
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| | | 127 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 158151719
Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 20:55
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Excited to have new (old) managers! I'd try recruiting my brother-in-law, but I like you guys more than that.
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| | | 128 | Florian
ID: 298441917
Thu, Sep 20, 2018, 07:28
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Now that I致e committed to joining the league I知 super excited to pick my team :). I知 happy to pick my team sooner rather than later as the suspense is driving me crazy.
Assuming I get a choice I would prefer the draft lottery run before I pick a team as it will give me time to figure out who may be available with the draft picks the various teams may have.
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| | | 129 | GO
ID: 14143919
Thu, Sep 20, 2018, 13:46
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Welcome Florian, great addition.
I thought I had a 3rd 1st round pick which is why I sold off two of them. i will start the search... think I had mine, Pete and Sanforders...
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| | | 130 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 158151719
Thu, Sep 20, 2018, 15:40
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GO, here's another from preseason thread (23) you have:
Dave R's 2018.1st
for
GO's 2018.4th
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| | | 131 | GO
ID: 565491620
Thu, Sep 20, 2018, 21:33
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Sweet, thank you. I guess we should all take back a look back through and hope we catch everything.
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| | | 132 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 12:46
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<122> Any luck?
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| | | 133 | KnicksFan
ID: 14802515
Tue, Sep 25, 2018, 16:01
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I'm back. Didn't see any messages about the league, my bad.
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| | | 134 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Tue, Sep 25, 2018, 21:23
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OK, so, in summary, we have three open slots and only one fill. Come Saturday, if we dont have any additional managers we will go with 18 this year.
We can talk about possible re-expansion next season and how that might go, during this season.
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| | | 135 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Tue, Sep 25, 2018, 21:23
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OK, so, in summary, we have three open slots and only one fill. Come Saturday, if we dont have any additional managers we will go with 18 this year.
We can talk about possible re-expansion next season and how that might go, during this season.
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| | | 136 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 15:27
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So if we do contract 2 teams, do we run the draft lottery for all teams first and then let Florian pick which team to take before removing the other 2 from the draft?
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| | | 137 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 16:16
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If we contract two teams, I suppose all players on those teams, including the six presumed keepers, are just dumped back into the draftable F/A pool? Not sure who those players are likely to be, but that probably makes for a pretty juicy first round of the draft!
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| | | 138 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 16:18
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BTW - can anyone find a link to the ESPN player rater? It seems to have disappeared in the new site format.
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| | | 139 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 17:10
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Couldn't find it myself
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| | | 140 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 18:17
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<137> I guess I presumed we would simply dump all the players from the two dissolved teams into the FA pool. Frankly, I cannot imagine we would do it any other way.
Given that we haven't had any takers on the other two teams (I have tried), the first few picks could be pretty valuable.
<136> So, barring a ground swell of dissent, let's go with 1) Saturday morning, Guru rolls the lottery for us, then 2) Florian (assuming he is the only new manager we get) picks his team. Next, 3) we make the pick trades then 4) remove the other two teams from the draft. 5) A final draft order results. Guru has historically done the draft order table thing, right?
This should give us all a picture of what players are likely to be available at the top of the draft, and who has what picks. 6) Perhaps a trade flurry will occur, perhaps not.
7) I'll start a thread for keepers once we have a firm set of owners and a draft order. You will have until 5 OCT to post your keepers to that thread.
8) Meanwhile, just a heads up, Species has been trying to get help from ESPN admin, to help transfer ownership of the league to me. For keeper leagues that's not something that can be done easily on ESPN apparently. If necessary, we may have to recreate the league on ESPN. Another option is to leave him as a manager until we can get some help and just force that team to be last in every category. Stand by for further instructions on all of that.
9) As to Draft Time, Guru said he would renew the league soon. We'll let you know.
Questions? Concerns? Complaints?
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| | | 141 | Fosten
ID: 476192817
Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 19:25
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Bean - I'll take the 19th spot in this league if you can find #20.
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| | | 142 | GO
ID: 14143919
Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 20:27
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If Fosten is in and BB posted interest in the RIHC thread we got our 20...
Bean, can he add you as co-commish for now? And then get a co-manager for his team temporarily with the new guy? And then eventually get out entirely...
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| | | 143 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 20:58
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<141> Fosten, we dont have to have an even number, its not head to head like football, so you are welcome to take #19, even if we dont get a #20. Anyway, if you haven't already, check <110> for the schedule; <113> for the available rosters (bluehen, species and BMD only). <86> Has last year's standings, and seems we have pick trades listed in <114>, <115> and <130>. Remember, we will have a lottery for the draft order similar to NBA. Finally, send me an e-mail so I have your contact info.
<142> GO, yeah that will work as long as Species team isnt the odd man out (i.e. nobody takes it). Although, I think we could probably do something clever to leave him on one team or another, until we get this fixed. Let me think on this a bit. If ESPN admin is able to help us out it all may be moot.
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| | | 145 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 21:00
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<142> I already have co-commish but its the league history that could be lost and I wont have renewal authority next year either.
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| | | 146 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 21:14
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<142> I sent BB an e-mail as he asked. Hope he decides to join us. He and I played at NBA Stock Exchange and used rotoguru's stats all the time. As a result, we both joined RIHC together the following year and miraculously both finally qualified for the top league last year.
IIRC he lives in Eastern Europe somewhere, we havent talked much since coming to Rotoguru. He only plays RIHC here at rotoguru.
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| | | 147 | BB the Ball
ID: 198492518
Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 21:19
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I'm in-- thanks for having me.
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| | | 148 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 21:36
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I located the Constitution. Haven't had a chance to check the trades against other lists yet, but will:
Constitution
I Site / Stat Source / League Fees
All game, roster and scoring rules will be governed by ESPN. There is no fee for using ESPN.
II Draft
The Supplemental Draft consists of a slow draft and held on the Draftime.com website. Time limits will be three hours for individual picks and 8 hours cumulative clock. You may draft until your picks run out or you have reached twelve (12) players. The clock will be stopped from 11:00 p.m. 窶 9 a.m. ET but picks may be made during that time. If you time out, you will be skipped and may select at any time. If you have been skipped and have not made up that pick and it becomes your turn again, you will be skipped for that pick as well. If you leave a Q and that person is available to post your pick, you will not be charged any time on your cumulative clock.
The draft order will be reverse of last year's regular season finish and it will NOT snake. Only players currently in the NBA database are eligible to be drafted. Waivers Priority will begin in the same order as the basic draft order (lottery excluded). Please note: The bottom 14 teams will be in the lottery similar to the actual NBA draft. Top three picks for next year will be selected via lottery. 4th-14th picks will be selected based on inverse order of standings.
III League Settings:
Draft Type: Offline Draft and E-mail draft
Max Teams: 20
Scoring Type: Rotisserie
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Trade Review: League Votes (7 needed to veto)
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules
Max Games Played: 720 (enforced by position)
Roster Positions: G, G, F, F, C, Util, Util, Util, BN, BN, BN, BN
Stat Categories: FG%, FT%, 3PTM, PTS, OREB, REB, AST, ST, BLK
IV Minimum Games Played / Penalties
A team must accumulate a minimum of 656 GP (82 GP/pos) over the course of a season. For each 8 games of shortfall (1 GP/pos), a team is assigned one demerit. Demerits will be integer values only. Thus, a team with 1-8 games of shortfall will receive one demerit, 9-16 will receive 2 demerits, etc.
If a team finishes 窶彿n the money窶 for prize pool purposes (ranked 1-6), then demerits will be ignored.
For lottery teams, the following penalties will be applied to every pick in the next year窶冱 supplement draft:
If a team accumulates more than 10 demerits, then it will be removed from the lottery and assigned the 14th pick in all rounds (i.e., behind all lottery teams, but ahead of any prize pool teams.)
For teams with less than 10 demerits, that team is pushed forward one place in the supplemental draft rankings for each demerit. For example, if a team finishes in last place (20th) and has 5 demerits, then that team will be treated in the draft rankings as though it finished in 15th place (and the teams actually finishing in places 16-20 will each move down one place.)
If more than one lottery team has a demerit, then the lottery rankings will be successively applied starting with the worst finisher and then moving up to the next worst finisher, etc.
Note: While the maximum number of games is measured on a GP/pos (enforced by the ESPN site), the minimum number of games is NOT. For minimum games, all measurements are based on total games played without regard for position.
V Trades
All trades during the season must be submitted via the website窶冱 offer trade feature to the league for review. If there is a draft pick it needs to be posted in our thread at rotoguru.com and needs to be confirmed by both parties. You might want to rationalize your trade as it takes just 7 members to reject the trade. You have one day to reject it so please check the site at LEAST once per day (many will have the email feature that emails all accepted trades). Remember with a Keeper league there may be draft picks involved so take the time to check those before rejecting it. Please only reject a trade based on the trade and not the teams involved. A trade by its very nature should help both teams either now, the future or both. All off-season/preseason trades will be governed by a commish.
VI Keepers
Returning owners will have a deadline to declare what players from their team they wish to 窶很eep窶 Each owner may keep up to 6.
You may keep less than six. You may trade keepers after you have declared, but you may not go over six until all 20 teams have officially declared at the Keeper deadline. At that point you may go up to 12 players.
If you keep less than six, the only way you can add a sixth keeper is via trade. You may not drop a player until after the draft is complete.
If you do not name your Keepers by the deadline, the commish(s) will choose those for you and they will be final. If you post your Keepers after the deadline but before the commish posts, your Keepers will be honored. Typically the commish(s) will start figuring out uncommitted Keepers as soon as the deadline has passed.
All 窶忖n-kept窶 players will go into the draft. A player MUST be in the NBA database in order to be kept.
The only off-season transactions that will be allowed are trades. No free agents may be picked up after the end of the season. Trades of a player for a draft pick are allowed.
VII Prizes
A fine plaque will be engraved and shipped to the winner courtesy of the previous year's winner. The trophy will be yours to proudly display with your other cherished mementos for 1 year. It will be the winner窶冱 responsibility to engrave it and ship it to the winner. There will be an added nominal fee to help cover expenses related to the engraving and shipping of the plaque.
A separate cash prize pool has also been established. It is strictly voluntary. Only those who participate will be eligible for this prize. $15 USD entry must be paid by the season opener. The exact method of prize distribution will vary from year to year depending on participation. We focus payouts so it will NOT be winner take all. Six owners will have a chance to 窶忤in something.窶 Prize pool funds are due by Opening Night.
2017-2018 Payout has six managers paid:
1st $100
2nd $60
3rd $35
4th $25
5th $20
6th $15
Total Payouts is 19 X $15 = $ 285 ($30 to trophy fund and for Draftime costs)
Ineligible for prize pool:
PD
If any of the non-participants qualify, the prizes will be reallocated by the commissioners. Managers will move up payout position(s) and any remaining funds will go into the trophy fund.
VIII Owners
As commissioners, we reserve the right NOT to extend an invitation to or remove any owner for any reason. Primary reason for being excluded would be abusive behavior (beyond friendly trash talk, harassment), purposeful rules violations (i.e. colluding on a trade), inactivity (i.e. leaving injured players in as starters repeatedly), unresponsive to other owners or commish(s), missing deadlines (i.e. keepers, draft picks, etc.). If an owner is NOT invited back next year. A new owner will be recruited to take over the vacated team in its exact state.
The following managers have had their 2018 draft picks altered via trade:
01-15-17 GO receives Sandforders 1st for his 4th Round (R. Anderson/Biyombo)
10-10-17 GO receives ttucowboy's 1st for his 6th (2017 pick)
10-11-17 bmd receives RSF's 2nd for his 6th (2017 pick)
10-11-17 Meatwads receives ttucowboys' 2nd for his 6th (2017 pick)
10-30-17 bmd receives Species' 1st for his 4th (Collison)
League Champions:
2003 Peter N
2004 A Perfect 10
2005 Twarpy
2006 RecycledSpinalFluid
2007 beastiemiked
2008 beastiemiked
2009 Ref
2010 Pete N.
2011 Pacers Rule
2012 beastiemiked
2013 Great One
2014 WG
2015 Species
2016 Pete N.
2017 RecycledSpinalFluid
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| | | 149 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 22:11
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[140] Species always put together the draft order grid. I just posted it from a spreadsheet he sent me.
I can probably do it, though, as long as all of the pick trades are listed above.
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| | | 150 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 22:20
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Honestly I dont know the syntax for posting a spreadsheet. I can do the spreadsheet, if you can do the posting. I will send it tomorrow sometime.
Seems the three references with seven total trades in <114> <115> and <130> are correct and agree with the five in the constitution. So, I will go with the seven as final.
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| | | 151 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 23:39
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I have started a new pre-season thread. At the top is our constitution, followed by a summary of pertinent information. Consider this thread closed now.
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| | | 152 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 23:39
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I have started a new pre-season thread. At the top is our constitution, followed by a summary of pertinent information. Consider this thread closed now.
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