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| Posted by: Bean
- [304422310] Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 23:11
Constitution
I Site / Stat Source / League Fees
All game, roster and scoring rules will be governed by ESPN. There is no fee for using ESPN.
II Draft
The Supplemental Draft consists of a slow draft and held on the Draftime.com website. Time limits will be three hours for individual picks and 8 hours cumulative clock. You may draft until your picks run out or you have reached twelve (12) players. The clock will be stopped from 11:00 p.m. – 9 a.m. ET but picks may be made during that time. If you time out, you will be skipped and may select at any time. If you have been skipped and have not made up that pick and it becomes your turn again, you will be skipped for that pick as well. If you leave a Q and that person is available to post your pick, you will not be charged any time on your cumulative clock.
The draft order will be reverse of last year's regular season finish and it will NOT snake. Only players currently in the NBA database are eligible to be drafted. Waivers Priority will begin in the same order as the basic draft order (lottery excluded). Please note: The bottom 14 teams will be in the lottery similar to the actual NBA draft. Top three picks for next year will be selected via lottery. 4th-14th picks will be selected based on inverse order of standings.
III League Settings:
Draft Type: Offline Draft and E-mail draft
Max Teams: 20
Scoring Type: Rotisserie
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Trade Review: League Votes (7 needed to veto)
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules
Max Games Played: 720 (enforced by position)
Roster Positions: G, G, F, F, C, Util, Util, Util, BN, BN, BN, BN
Stat Categories: FG%, FT%, 3PTM, PTS, OREB, REB, AST, ST, BLK
IV Minimum Games Played / Penalties
A team must accumulate a minimum of 656 GP (82 GP/pos) over the course of a season. For each 8 games of shortfall (1 GP/pos), a team is assigned one demerit. Demerits will be integer values only. Thus, a team with 1-8 games of shortfall will receive one demerit, 9-16 will receive 2 demerits, etc.
If a team finishes “in the money” for prize pool purposes (ranked 1-6), then demerits will be ignored.
For lottery teams, the following penalties will be applied to every pick in the next year’s supplement draft:
If a team accumulates more than 10 demerits, then it will be removed from the lottery and assigned the 14th pick in all rounds (i.e., behind all lottery teams, but ahead of any prize pool teams.)
For teams with less than 10 demerits, that team is pushed forward one place in the supplemental draft rankings for each demerit. For example, if a team finishes in last place (20th) and has 5 demerits, then that team will be treated in the draft rankings as though it finished in 15th place (and the teams actually finishing in places 16-20 will each move down one place.)
If more than one lottery team has a demerit, then the lottery rankings will be successively applied starting with the worst finisher and then moving up to the next worst finisher, etc.
Note: While the maximum number of games is measured on a GP/pos (enforced by the ESPN site), the minimum number of games is NOT. For minimum games, all measurements are based on total games played without regard for position.
V Trades
All trades during the season must be submitted via the website’s offer trade feature to the league for review. If there is a draft pick it needs to be posted in our thread at rotoguru.com and needs to be confirmed by both parties. You might want to rationalize your trade as it takes just 7 members to reject the trade. You have one day to reject it so please check the site at LEAST once per day (many will have the email feature that emails all accepted trades). Remember with a Keeper league there may be draft picks involved so take the time to check those before rejecting it. Please only reject a trade based on the trade and not the teams involved. A trade by its very nature should help both teams either now, the future or both. All off-season/preseason trades will be governed by a commish.
VI Keepers
Returning owners will have a deadline to declare what players from their team they wish to “keep” Each owner may keep up to 6.
You may keep less than six. You may trade keepers after you have declared, but you may not go over six until all 20 teams have officially declared at the Keeper deadline. At that point you may go up to 12 players.
If you keep less than six, the only way you can add a sixth keeper is via trade. You may not drop a player until after the draft is complete.
If you do not name your Keepers by the deadline, the commish(s) will choose those for you and they will be final. If you post your Keepers after the deadline but before the commish posts, your Keepers will be honored. Typically the commish(s) will start figuring out uncommitted Keepers as soon as the deadline has passed.
All “un-kept” players will go into the draft. A player MUST be in the NBA database in order to be kept.
The only off-season transactions that will be allowed are trades. No free agents may be picked up after the end of the season. Trades of a player for a draft pick are allowed.
VII Prizes
A fine plaque will be engraved and shipped to the winner courtesy of the previous year's winner. The trophy will be yours to proudly display with your other cherished mementos for 1 year. It will be the winner’s responsibility to engrave it and ship it to the winner. There will be an added nominal fee to help cover expenses related to the engraving and shipping of the plaque.
A separate cash prize pool has also been established. It is strictly voluntary. Only those who participate will be eligible for this prize. $15 USD entry must be paid by the season opener. The exact method of prize distribution will vary from year to year depending on participation. We focus payouts so it will NOT be winner take all. Six owners will have a chance to “win something.” Prize pool funds are due by Opening Night.
2017-2018 Payout has six managers paid:
1st $100
2nd $60
3rd $35
4th $25
5th $20
6th $15
Total Payouts is 19 X $15 = $ 285 ($30 to trophy fund and for Draftime costs)
Ineligible for prize pool:
PD
If any of the non-participants qualify, the prizes will be reallocated by the commissioners. Managers will move up payout position(s) and any remaining funds will go into the trophy fund.
VIII Owners
As commissioners, we reserve the right NOT to extend an invitation to or remove any owner for any reason. Primary reason for being excluded would be abusive behavior (beyond friendly trash talk, harassment), purposeful rules violations (i.e. colluding on a trade), inactivity (i.e. leaving injured players in as starters repeatedly), unresponsive to other owners or commish(s), missing deadlines (i.e. keepers, draft picks, etc.). If an owner is NOT invited back next year. A new owner will be recruited to take over the vacated team in its exact state.
The following managers have had their 2018 draft picks altered via trade:
01-15-17 GO receives Sandforders 1st for his 4th Round (R. Anderson/Biyombo)
10-10-17 GO receives ttucowboy's 1st for his 6th (2017 pick)
10-11-17 bmd receives RSF's 2nd for his 6th (2017 pick)
10-11-17 Meatwads receives ttucowboys' 2nd for his 6th (2017 pick)
10-30-17 bmd receives Species' 1st for his 4th (Collison)
League Champions:
2003 Peter N
2004 A Perfect 10
2005 Twarpy
2006 RecycledSpinalFluid
2007 beastiemiked
2008 beastiemiked
2009 Ref
2010 Pete N.
2011 Pacers Rule
2012 beastiemiked
2013 Great One
2014 WG
2015 Species
2016 Pete N.
2017 RecycledSpinalFluid |
| | | 1 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 23:14
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Last Year's Standings:
1 Freak Like Me RSF 144
2 ttu cowboy ttucowboy 135
3 SAN FORDORS Dave R 134
4 Kevin Love Fan Club Tosh 123.5
5 GO Sixers GO 119
6 twolves twolves 111
6 Bean's Buckeyes Bean 111
8 Jay dog Jaydog 109
9 skinnee Js skinneej 108
10 Wazzup Guy WG 107
11 youngroman's Luschen youngroman 103
12 Roto Guru Guru 95
13 Hard To Be A KnicksFan KnicksFan 91
14 Endangered Species Species 84
15 coldwater coyotes coldwater 77
16 Vampire Weekend Vampire 76
17 Team Perm Dudes PermDude 69.5
18 beastie miked bmd 43
19 Mighty Meatwads Meatwads 37
20 Itinerant Wanderers BH 13
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| | | 2 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 23:19
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Departing Owners: Species; Blue Hen (BH); and beastiemiked (BMD)
Replacement Owners: Florian; Fosten; and BB the Ball
Here are the rosters:
bluehen
Frank Kaminsky
Frank Ntilikina
Malik Monk
Dwight Powell
Lance Stephenson
Dwyane Wade
Caleb Swanigan
Zach Collins
Mike Conley
Rudy Gay
Dragan Bender
Justise Winslow
Species
Pau Gasol
Russell Westbrook
Troy Daniels
Carmelo Anthony
Tobias Harris
Wilson Chandler
Darren Collison
Ryan Anderson
DeMarcus Cousins
Evan Fournier
Emmanuel Mudiay
Corey Brewer
BMD
Jusuf Nurkic
Markelle Fultz
Frank Mason III
Jabari Parker
Jonathan Isaac
Brandon Ingram
Lauri Markkanen
Montrezl Harrell
Marquese Chriss
Zach LaVine
Willy Hernangomez
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
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| | | 3 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 23:29
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Dave R sends his 1st
GO sends his 4th
ttucowboy sends his 1st
GO sends his 6th
RSF sends his 2nd
bmd sends his 6th
ttucowboy sends his 2nd
Meatwads sends his 6th
Species sends his 2018 1st round
BMD sends his 2018 4th round
GO sends his worst 2018 1st round
WG sends his 2018 last pick
GO sends his 2018 1st round
Guru sends his 2018 4th round
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| | | 5 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 23:36
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Current Schedule:
FRI 28 SEP - Draft order posted, team selection order posted
MON 01 OCT - Team selection conplete
FRI 05 OCT 11:59 PM Eastern - Keeper Deadline
SUN 07 OCT - Draft Turned On
MON 08 OCT 11:59 PM Eastern - Draft Clock on
TUE 16 OCT - Season Starts
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| | | 6 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 158151719
Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 00:14
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Most important addition to initial post...
2018 RecycledSpinalFluid
(and then at end of season:)
2019 RecycledSpinalFluid
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| | | 7 | ttucowboy
ID: 545112110
Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 04:00
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Timeline outlined in post 5 looks good to me. Welcome to the new folks! I'd also like to thank Bean for taking the bull by the horns and keeping the league going. I'm ready for some basketball!
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| | | 8 | GO
ID: 14143919
Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 09:59
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Bean I can do spreadsheet posts too, I am pretty good with them. However I cant post from work as I am mobile only. So it limits how quick I can get things posted.
Is there anything in particular you need help with at this point? Or throughout the season? As the one who trades the most I could be I charge of the trade list... Guru does Treasury?
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| | | 9 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 10:14
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GO,
Would be great to have a minister of rules. Maintain the constitution, put new proposed rule changes to vote, etc. Species historically kept track of pick trades in the constitution. That something you could volunteer for?
Guru, as one would suspect, has been a great help so far. Yes he is treasurer, and I believe he and Tosh(?) have historically helped out during the draft. I think they have ESPN league accesss as well, so can help out with Oh shit kinda stuff during the season.
All in all, Species left us in good order, and there is nothing but bright days ahead (even if an uphill climb for some). If you get a chance send him a note of thanks.
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| | | 10 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 10:45
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I just renewed the draft at draftime. Returning managers are automatically enrolled. New managers have been sent registration instructions via email.
Bean and I are currently set up with admin capabilities at draftime. Anyone else want to be a co-admin?
Next step is to run the lottery, and then to produce a random ordering of the three new managers so that they can select their teams. I'll do that shortly.
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| | | 11 | GO
ID: 14143919
Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 10:52
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Sure. I can maintain rules, trades. I may need some kind of additional access on ESPN to update that constitution after deals. If Guru is Treasurer, guess that would make me Secretary.
I do have draftime access at work so could help there if more people needed.
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| | | 12 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 11:26
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For the first time I can recall, the lottery went "chalk"
Pick #1: blue hen
Pick #2: Meatwads
Pick #3: BMD
Spreadsheet with results is here:
http://rotoguru1.com/hoop/G20/G20-Sep18-14x4_balls.xls
Audit copies of the random number sets were sent to youngroman, Tosh, and Bean
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| | | 13 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 11:29
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Random selection of new managers:
1. Florian
2. Fosten
3. BB the ball
So Florian gets first choice of the three open teams.
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| | | 14 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 11:43
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2018-19 G20 Hoops Draft Grid
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| | | 15 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 12:24
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If anyone can't read the grid in the previous post, let me know and I can send you a direct link to the sheet on Google docs.
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| | | 16 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 12:31
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From the treasurer:
Prize pool dues for the coming season are $15. There is no assessment for a trophy fund again this year, as that continues to be amply funded.
As background for the new managers, we have an optional prize pool. All participating managers contribute $15 at the start of the season, and the pool is distributed at the end to the top six finishers. The actual award amounts are subject to the total amount in the pool, but generally range from about $100 to the winner down to $15 for the #6 team.
New managers do not need to opt into the pool in their first year. But by the second year, they must decide to be in or out. Once you opt in, you must remain in the pool each year to continue in the pool. If you should ever opt out after the first year, then you can never opt back in.
The only manager who has opted out is Perm Dude. The three new managers have the choice to opt in now or to defer their decision until next year.
Several managers have funds on account to cover all or part of the dues for 2018:
Bean, Dave R, Fosten (if he opts in), GO, KnicksFan, RSF, twolves.
So you guys are already paid up.
In addition, the following managers should win enough from G20 baseball to cover their dues for hoops:
Meatwads, Tosh, WG
Once the baseball season ends, I'll transfer over $15 of your likely winnings. So sit tight for now.
Everyone else owes $15, according to my records. If you think I have missed any funds on account for you, please let me know.
Payments can be sent in either of the following ways:
1. Paypal: please send to davehall@rotoguru2.com. (Recipient will probably appear as Uncommon Cents LLC.) Designate this as send money to friends and family, and mark the payment only as "G20 hoops". Do not say "prize" or "pool". Those words are red flags for Paypal.
2. Snail mail: check can be sent to the address listed at the bottom of this page:
http://rotoguru2.com/gurupatron-info.html
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| | | 17 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 13:30
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<11> GO, I've given you LM privileges at ESPN. Don't know if we will need more help during the draft, but I added you to co-admin there too.
<10> Guru, once the teams are chosen, I'll set up the draft picks at draft time. When we get the keepers, I'll take care of loading those as well. As the draft progresses I will periodically put players on rosters, so that people can use the ESPN "players available" tool to help them with their draft picks.
So, what I'll need from the three coadmins (Guru, Tosh and GO) is for someone to check my work before I start the draft, and possibly be around to fix stuff during the draft if applicable (or just stop the draft if something goes awry). I will be monitoring the draft, but may be pre-occupied at times (I go to my Pikes Peak Browns Backers Bar on Sundays for example, and I will be glued to the set for Indians and Rockies Playoffs).
I am also commish of another keeper league that Florian also plays in, so I kinda planned to devote time to drafts this season, I'm retired and my wife is tolerant, so it should all be good. I'm anxious to see if they put all of this year's NBA draft picks in the players pool at draft time, or if we will need write ins for some.
Anyway for the three of you, anything else I should be thinking about before we get rolling on the draft?
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| | | 18 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 13:49
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Sounds good. Be aware that I'll be traveling from Oct 3-9, and while I will have internet access throughout (although often only via cell phone), my ability to handle issues quickly will be significantly constrained during that period.
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| | | 19 | Florian
ID: 298441917
Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 17:17
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Ill take BMDs team. Just cant resist that collection of young players and draft picks :). I actually want to keep about 7 players, so Im open to trades.
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| | | 20 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 22:23
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Your pick fosten
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| | | 21 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 22:23
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Your pick fosten
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| | | 22 | Fosten
ID: 228282721
Thu, Sep 27, 2018, 22:59
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Species is cool. blue hen is weird. Weird is cool. Therefore, I select Species' team.
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| | | 23 | BB the Ball
ID: 198492518
Fri, Sep 28, 2018, 07:33
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Tough choice for me!! BH is close enough to BB. Guru I will opt in. Payment to follow this evening.
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| | | 24 | Florian
ID: 298441917
Fri, Sep 28, 2018, 09:00
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I will not opt in financially this year - I will defer my choice on whether to opt in financially until next year
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| | | 25 | Florian
ID: 298441917
Fri, Sep 28, 2018, 09:12
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I am in the fortunate position of having 7 young (age 23 or younger) players I would really like to keep (Markkanen, Isaac, Fultz, Nurkic, Ingram, Parker and Lavine). I have two other young players (Chriss, Hernangomez) Im not expecting to keep, but would be happy to throw in with a trade or for a small draft pick upgrade. I also have 5 of the top 43 draft picks (and 2 of the top 7). I obviously cant keep all these assets as I can only have six keepers now and by the end of this year need to be down to 6 again.
Basically I need to make trades. Im open to trading up (draft picks), trading for a high level veteran, etc
Email me if you are interested.
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| | | 26 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Fri, Sep 28, 2018, 11:54
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Invites to ESPN for the three new owners have been sent out. Fosten, you will note that you are a shared owneer with Species. Hopefully we'll get that sorted out before the season starts.
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| | | 27 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Fri, Sep 28, 2018, 12:05
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Sent Draft Time invites as well
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| | | 28 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Fri, Sep 28, 2018, 13:02
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Any interest in these? I can only keep one:
J.J. Reddick
Buddy Hield
Dirk Nowitzki
J.J. Barea
Kyle Korver
Happy to do my two for your one or draft pick upgrades for one or more of mine.
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| | | 29 | B.B. the ball
ID: 78142813
Fri, Sep 28, 2018, 14:14
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Guru I apologize for my misreading of the opt in. Based on my rebuilding year I would prefer to defer my pool participation this year if possible.
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| | | 30 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Sep 28, 2018, 14:17
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No problem. It's pretty normal for new teams to wait a year to get a better sense of the league and their team's longer-term outlook.
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| | | 31 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 158151719
Fri, Sep 28, 2018, 15:35
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Leaning toward keeping
Nikola Mirotic
and
Jarrett Allen
as my 5th/6th guys, with these guys in the mix to:
Danilo Gallinari (stud FT attempts, FT%, high brittle-AF%)
Bobby Portis (3Pt big, hellava Right Hook)
Rodney Hood (Should be Starting SG on a crappy CLE team, 3pts galore, 1+ steals)
Open to offers or just letting them ride in draft.
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| | | 32 | BB the Ball
ID: 198492518
Fri, Sep 28, 2018, 21:55
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In the event a team chooses fewer than 6 keepers how would that impact draft? Would extra picks be at end of draft? Thanks to all for your help and guidance so far!!
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| | | 33 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 158151719
Fri, Sep 28, 2018, 22:15
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You have more talent in your top 6 than you'd get at the end of the 6th round.
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| | | 34 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 10:09
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<32> It's never come up before BB, but I suppose we could add a seventh round. That said, even the last pick in the 6th would be better. I think you'd be better off trading 6th picks for someone's discard.
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| | | 35 | Meatwads
ID: 7527232
Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 12:23
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Hey guys, I'm excited to start a new season. It's good to have a few new managers. I'm hoping for an active preseason talking trades. I know I would take offers for the #2 pick in draft, if that helps spark things.
Besides that, I'm looking at trading 2-for-1 or trading one for a draft pick. I'd be open to adding more vets to pair with McCollum and Millsap, or going the other way and dealing one or both for someone in the same age range as my other youngsters. But anyone with any ideas, reach out to me. I'll be sending some emails too.
My current keepers, plus one...
C.J. McCollum, G
D'Angelo Russell, G
Josh Jackson, G/F
Andrew Wiggins, G/F
Jordan Bell, F/C
Dejounte Murray G
Paul Millsap, F
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| | | 36 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 14:46
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I've started a keepers thread for you to post your keepers. The deadline is FRI 05 OCT 11:59 PM Eastern.
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| | | 37 | WG
Donor
ID: 35338278
Mon, Oct 01, 2018, 13:13
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A bit late to check in here but
Am probably looking for one keeper to trade for (either a pick or a 1 for 2?). Let me know if you have excess??
Have Rozier but am unlikely to sit on him for a year until Kyrie leaves... anyone want him? Rozier for an old guy??
Someone emailed me asking about Jokic and I was unable to respond through the site. Feel free to make an offer but honestly I am unlikely to move him unless Im blown away by something.
Thanks!
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| | | 38 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Tue, Oct 02, 2018, 12:59
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I have the following players that are potential for my 6th keeper spot, so let me know if you are interested in any of them. Looking for draft pick upgrades or 2 for 1 deals.
Kent Bazemore SG, ATL - starting SG in Atlanta and could be #1 scoring option to start the season on a bad team
Jeremy Lin, PG, ATL - likely starting PG in Atlanta as they work Trey Young in and could see a lot of small ball lineups with Lin and Young on the floor with Young playing more of a 2 role
Jonathon Simmons, SG/SF, ORL - Contributes in pretty much every category across the board, and was consistent as a starter or as the 6th man.
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| | | 39 | Vampireweekend
Dude
ID: 24100310
Wed, Oct 03, 2018, 11:34
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Have received multiple inquiries on Dunn. Rightly or wrongly I like my 6 so probably just interested in a draft pick. In such a deep league I suspect he will go in round one given his starter status and upside. Either send me your player proposal or your best draft choice offer or let the fates of the draft decide his destination.
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| | | 40 | Florian
ID: 298441917
Wed, Oct 03, 2018, 19:47
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My likely keepers are
Lauri Markkanen, F, Chi
Jonathan Isaac, F, Orl
Markelle Fultz, G, Phi
Brandon Ingram, F, LAL
Zach LaVine, G, Chi
Jabari Parker, F, Chi
I guess I am now a Bulls fan since half my keepers play there
I would like to keep Nurkic, but obviously cannot barring a trade. Ive sent out numerous proposals the last week or so and clearly have not managed to make a trade. Thank you to everyone who replied to my trade offers/questions. It is much appreciated :)
I have to say I am surprised and somewhat shocked by the number of managers who couldnt be bothered to email back at all. How long does it really take to reply no or not interested
At this point Im happy to trade Nurkic for a small draft pick upgrade or just let him go and have someone else draft him.
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| | | 41 | Florian
ID: 298441917
Wed, Oct 03, 2018, 19:49
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Oops - wrong thread - Ill repost in the correct thread.
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| | | 42 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 158151719
Wed, Oct 03, 2018, 20:07
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I'd trade you Bobby Portis for him so you can have another Bull. Man, at one point I offered (2) 1st Rounders + some player for Nurkic. Living in PDX area perhaps blinds me to his talent level.
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| | | 43 | Florian
ID: 298441917
Wed, Oct 03, 2018, 20:43
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LOL. Sometimes the trades you dont make are as important as the ones you do.
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| | | 44 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5352110
Wed, Oct 03, 2018, 21:59
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I think hed be a great keeper pickup for many teams.
I say put him in the draft and let him slide to the 20th pick!
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| | | 45 | BB the Ball
ID: 198492518
Wed, Oct 03, 2018, 22:25
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Is there a grid with last years final numbers?
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| | | 46 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Wed, Oct 03, 2018, 22:36
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<45> Are you asking for last year's standings?
If so, go to the league at ESPN. There is a pull down that says 2019, select 2018 there. You'll find on the right a full standings link.
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| | | 47 | Florian
ID: 298441917
Wed, Oct 03, 2018, 23:23
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I made a trade with Skinnee Js. Nurkic and pick 5.03 for pick 2.12
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| | | 48 | Skinneej
ID: 11931511
Thu, Oct 04, 2018, 00:40
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Confirmed
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| | | 49 | Florian
ID: 298441917
Thu, Oct 04, 2018, 08:21
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I am fortunate to now have two first round picks (1.03 and 1.07), three second round picks (2.03, 2.12, 2.20) and an early third round pick (3.03). I would ideally like to get another first round pick or upgrade my first round picks. I am willing to trade multiple second round picks to get another first round pick (which picks obviously depends on the first round pick being offered). I could also throw in Willy Hernangomez if anyone wants him. Let me know if you are interested
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| | | 50 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Thu, Oct 04, 2018, 12:54
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Just to confirm, we should all be selecting our keepers on the ESPN site as well so that it matches what is posted in the keeper thread right? This should make it easier when the commish starts the draft process and cuts the non-keeper players.
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| | | 51 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Thu, Oct 04, 2018, 13:14
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Yes, selecting your keepers in ESPN will help. In some cases ALL of the keepers will not be available (Nurkic, for example, who was just traded). Just select the ones you can. Ultimately the keeper thread is the official list, selecting them at ESPN too just makes my job easier.
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| | | 52 | Meatwads
ID: 43056268
Thu, Oct 04, 2018, 14:14
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Paul Millsap is available for a draft pick upgrade. Someone should jump on this because he's worth soooooo much more. Please contact me on ESPN, through my gmail or via text message. I'll be available about 2 hours from now, and up until keepers are due.
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| | | 53 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Thu, Oct 04, 2018, 14:43
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13/20 owners have posted their keepers. These 7 have not:
BB
Dave R
Fosten
Jaydog
Meatwads
WG
youngroman
No need to wait to the last second fellahs, you can always update it if you get word of an injury.
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| | | 54 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Thu, Oct 04, 2018, 14:43
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13/20 owners have posted their keepers. These 7 have not:
BB
Dave R
Fosten
Jaydog
Meatwads
WG
youngroman
No need to wait to the last second fellahs, you can always update it if you get word of an injury.
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| | | 55 | Fosten
ID: 15941320
Thu, Oct 04, 2018, 19:50
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Trade Announcement
Fosten trades
Troy Daniels
2.7
VampireWeekend trades
Kris Dunn
6.5
Trade Announcement
Fosten trades
Corey Brewer
4.7
ttucowboy trades
Caris LeVert
6.16
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| | | 56 | ttucowboy
ID: 545112110
Thu, Oct 04, 2018, 20:10
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Confirmed
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| | | 57 | Vampireweekend
Dude
ID: 24100310
Thu, Oct 04, 2018, 20:23
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Agree re Dunn aspect.
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| | | 58 | Fosten
ID: 15941320
Thu, Oct 04, 2018, 20:45
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Listening to offers on DeMarcus Cousins, Tobias Harris, Evan Fournier, and Darren Collison.
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| | | 59 | Meatwads
ID: 7527232
Thu, Oct 04, 2018, 21:39
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Trade Announcement
Meatwads trade
Paul Millsap, F, DEN
2019 6th round pick
GO trades
Richaun Holmes, C, PHO
2019 2nd round pick
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| | | 60 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Thu, Oct 04, 2018, 22:05
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<59> I assume this included Meatwads pick 5.02, he has no 6th round pick.
These are Meatwads picks:
1.02
2.02
2.19
3.02
4.02
5.02
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| | | 61 | Meatwads
ID: 7527232
Thu, Oct 04, 2018, 22:38
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Bean - The draft picks involved are for next season.
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| | | 62 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Thu, Oct 04, 2018, 22:53
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Oh sorry, did not see that. Thanks.
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| | | 63 | WG
ID: 53213822
Thu, Oct 04, 2018, 22:56
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Anyone keeping too many PG and want Blake Griffin for one of them in some deal??
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| | | 64 | Meatwads
ID: 7527232
Fri, Oct 05, 2018, 03:00
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Last minute dangle of a few young guys. Maybe a rebuilding team wants one for cheap? I'd take a pick upgrade this year or next.
Jakob Poeltl, C, Spurs
Thon Maker, C, Bucks
Tyler Ulis, PG, Warriors
Kevon Looney, PF/C, Warriors
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| | | 65 | GO
ID: 14143919
Fri, Oct 05, 2018, 07:51
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Trade confirmed. Picks for next year.
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| | | 66 | GO
ID: 14143919
Fri, Oct 05, 2018, 07:54
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Available cheap
Willie Cauley Stein
Or packaged with Irving or Heyward for a similar player... don't want both Celtics
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| | | 67 | WG
Donor
ID: 35338278
Fri, Oct 05, 2018, 09:21
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TRADE
WG gets Willie Cauley-Stein, Joe Ingles, GOs last 2 2018 picks
GO gets WGs 2018 3 and 4
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| | | 68 | GO
ID: 578392522
Fri, Oct 05, 2018, 10:17
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Confirmed.
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| | | 69 | coldwater coyotes
ID: 29945215
Fri, Oct 05, 2018, 10:30
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Anybody interested in some solid assists and 3Ps for this year?
George Hill - PG, starter and leader of Cleveland.
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| | | 70 | KnicksFan
ID: 14802515
Fri, Oct 05, 2018, 10:33
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Accepted a RSF trade offer on ESPN. Just waiting to hear from him about the particulars before confirming it here.
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| | | 71 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 158151719
Fri, Oct 05, 2018, 11:32
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The agreement was you send me your next four #1 picks...
KF, emailed you back through the espn mail.
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| | | 72 | KnicksFan
ID: 14802515
Fri, Oct 05, 2018, 11:37
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I figured you just knew something about Andrew Harrison that no one else did. Sent you a message back.
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| | | 73 | KnicksFan
ID: 14802515
Fri, Oct 05, 2018, 11:44
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Trade with RSF is voided. Bean, can you cancel the ESPN transaction of Mirotic for Harrison? Thanks!
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| | | 74 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Fri, Oct 05, 2018, 12:13
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<73> Vetoed it
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| | | 75 | WG
Donor
ID: 35338278
Fri, Oct 05, 2018, 15:25
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Open to dealing my 1.11 post keep... preferably for an older guy who can pass.
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| | | 76 | KnicksFan
ID: 14802515
Fri, Oct 05, 2018, 17:00
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TRADE
KF 5.08 + some scrub
for
ttucowboys 6.02 + James Johnson
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| | | 77 | ttucowboy
ID: 51737190
Fri, Oct 05, 2018, 17:05
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Confirmed
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| | | 78 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Sat, Oct 06, 2018, 21:59
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I have started the draft. No clock on Sunday & Monday or until we start the 2nd round whichever comes first. Four hour clock thereafter as long as we are not in peril of being ready for the start of the season.
If you find an error in your picks or keepers in Draft Time let me, Tosh, Guru or GO know ASAP so we can fix it.
I will periodically load your players into your rosters at ESPN, so the players tab can be a useful tool for drafting.
Good Luck
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| | | 79 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Sat, Oct 06, 2018, 22:05
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Just to be clear about the no clock. It's not there to abuse, its to give everyone time to get their queues loaded and to become aware that we have started. When I do start the clock there will be a daily pause between 10 PM and 8 AM EDT. You will still be able to pick during the pause.
Anything else that you all already know that I need to say?
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| | | 80 | Meatwads
ID: 7527232
Sat, Oct 06, 2018, 22:41
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Bean - I remember Species used to make us pick up players after we drafted them. I think there was a reason he didn't add the player to rosters as the drafted unfolded. Maybe because he ended up having to do it all again at the end. I could be out of my mind, so maybe someone more informed could chime in.
I've been looking for my franchise center for years. Welcome to the squad DeAndre Ayton!
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| | | 81 | GO
ID: 578392522
Sat, Oct 06, 2018, 22:46
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Thanks Bean, from what I've seen on Draftie it looks good. But I always say this in F101.
Making your 1st pick is you essentially signing off and attesting that all your picks are correct and you've reviewed them
We will always try and correct things if possible, but we're only human. Don't tell the league when the draft is over that you never got that extra 3rd rounder you were owed. You snooze, you lose.
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| | | 82 | GO
ID: 14143919
Sun, Oct 07, 2018, 07:49
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If you are hunting for extra picks, I will move picks for extra 1sts next year.
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| | | 83 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Sun, Oct 07, 2018, 10:51
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<80> Yeah, I just assumed it was to save him the effort. I prefer to control it myself, and avoid the issues that come with having to bird dog everyone to make sure they do it. I should be able to keep up with the draft for the most part. I believe you can check your roster regularly to check my work.
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| | | 84 | Florian
ID: 298441917
Sun, Oct 07, 2018, 21:47
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Is there any easy way to see which players are available? When I look at the ESPN site my roster (and all the other rosters) are now empty and all players look available.
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| | | 85 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 5352110
Sun, Oct 07, 2018, 22:43
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Trade announcement:
RSF.2018.1st + RSF.2019.1st
For
Tosh.2018.1st + Tosh.2019.2nd
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| | | 86 | Tosh
Dude
ID: 057721710
Sun, Oct 07, 2018, 22:51
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Agreed
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| | | 87 | GO
ID: 14143919
Sun, Oct 07, 2018, 22:56
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Florian if you need some names you can import preranked players on Draftime as well. Its about 300 players I think.
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| | | 88 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Mon, Oct 08, 2018, 01:33
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<84> When I look at the players tab at ESPN, I only see available players. I assumed everyone saw that as well. Is it only League Managers that see it that way?
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| | | 89 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Mon, Oct 08, 2018, 01:41
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<85> So, I guess tosh did the pick swap in Draft Time.
It's probably a rare occurence, but how have we historically handled it, if this trade were later disapproved via a ground swell of support for veto?
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| | | 90 | GO
ID: 14143919
Mon, Oct 08, 2018, 07:55
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My pick is for sale for a 1st next year. If no offers I will pick around 830 when I get to work.
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| | | 92 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 158151719
Mon, Oct 08, 2018, 10:33
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Outside of some crap that was pulled in last years redraft (non-trade related), I can't recall a vetoed trade during the redraft before. Valid question, especially considering the time constraints involved.
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| | | 93 | Florian
ID: 298441917
Mon, Oct 08, 2018, 10:38
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Somehow my ESPN leagues got switched. I now only see available players (and keepers are on their correct teams). Thank you :)
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| | | 94 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Mon, Oct 08, 2018, 11:06
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<89><92> I am inclined to think that the risk should belong to the trade partners. If the trade is later vetoed, they get to keep the players who were drafted in their original slots. To back the draft up would be too intrusive.
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| | | 95 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Mon, Oct 08, 2018, 13:26
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We are nearly done with the first round now. The draft has been running for well over 24 hours now. There was no mystery about when the draft would start.
WG has been on the clock for 4.5 hours now. I have sent him an e-mail (to two different addresses) telling him that if he doesn't make his pick by 1 PM EDT, he will be skipped. If you have an alternate way to contact him, and you actually give a damn, you may want to let him know.
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| | | 96 | Meatwads
ID: 7527232
Tue, Oct 09, 2018, 22:09
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Sorry for the delay guys. I came in a bit late tonight, and then started talking about trading the pick. The deal ended up falling through. I'll be selecting within 15 minutes. Again, sorry for the 2+ hour delay during prime evening time.
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| | | 97 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 158151719
Tue, Oct 09, 2018, 23:01
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I'm not sure there are any more rookies for Meatwads to select with his last pick.
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| | | 98 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 13:04
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Treasurer update:
I'm still awaiting payment from the following (see post 16 for details):
Coldwater Coyotes
ttucowboy
Youngroman
Skinneej
Fosten still has the option to join this year or to defer his decision to next season.
If anyone sent a check via snail mail, my mail has been held while I was away, so I'm awaiting delivery of the last week's mail.
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| | | 99 | Skinneej
ID: 11931511
Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 13:27
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Sent
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| | | 100 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 13:29
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Received. I also just got the held mail, and it included a check from Coldwater.
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| | | 101 | Meatwads
ID: 7527232
Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 07:46
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RSF - I found one more rookie to draft! I've officially used all 6 picks on rookies for the first time. I feel excitement and shame.
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| | | 102 | Meatwads
ID: 7527232
Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 09:34
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Side note, I want to give a shout out to Vampire Weekend. When I was looking over the rosters, I noticed he drafted Jayson Tatum and Donovon Mitchell!!! last season. It was the inspiration behind my rookie bonanza. I'm not expecting miracles, but I liked my 2.02 stab at Michael Porter, Jr. paired with Deandre Ayton long term. I also liked what Florian did with his rookie picks. Getting Wendell Carter and Mo Bamba has the potential to make a big difference down the road. Good luck to everyone this season!
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| | | 103 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 158151719
Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 10:41
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Funny thing is I knew you were taking that guy. Almost took him to cock-block you. Ha! I like Williams too, just not enough minutes for my roster needs. Had to take a boring-ass selection of Mason Plumlee. Welcome back to the squad Mase.
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| | | 104 | ttucowboy
ID: 51737190
Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 15:36
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Ok, mini rant here. I didn't have a pick until the end of the 3rd round. I've now had my queue picked clean for 3 out of the 4 picks I've had since I joined the draft party. Y'all can't even let me have the bums I want. Lol
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| | | 105 | Skinneej
ID: 11931511
Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 19:53
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That's why I rarely set pick queues with this group. I keep an overall queue and then when I get within 2-3 picks I start looking at those remaining players closer. Almost all of my picks this draft have been the B or C player I was looking at, but that's pretty much expected by now.
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| | | 106 | Vampireweekend
ID: 129531119
Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 20:53
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Mitchell in the second round no less. Sadly I have not had too many other draft successes through the years - talking to you Stanley Johnson....
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| | | 107 | GO
ID: 578392522
Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 20:54
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I like my double draft pick of Dennis Smith and John Collins (1.18) even better :)
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| | | 108 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 158151719
Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 20:55
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I've been Stanley'd too. Its painful.
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| | | 109 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 158151719
Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 21:01
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It's early yet, but I like Jarrett Allen as my 2017.5th Rounder. Everyone else on my keepers was either a trade or a waiver-wire add.
Damn, I just realized I drafted Mason Plumlee in last years redraft...in the 3rd round. I have issues.
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| | | 110 | KnicksFan
ID: 399501121
Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 22:50
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I want to select Allonzo Trier with 6.08 but hes not in Draftime or the ESPN game yet. Whats the protocol?
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| | | 111 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 23:04
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I was able to use my commissioner super-powers and add him. So I made the pick on your behalf.
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| | | 112 | KnicksFan
ID: 399501121
Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 23:07
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Thanks! Actually can you use those powers to put Giannis on my team?
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| | | 113 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Fri, Oct 12, 2018, 20:11
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Draft is over. Your players are entered into ESPN. Let me know if there is a mistake. Undrafted players are on waivers until Sunday.
Good Luck
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| | | 114 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Sat, Oct 13, 2018, 10:22
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<106><108> Guess its my turn to be Stanley-ed this year (6.14).
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| | | 115 | Skinneej
ID: 11931511
Sat, Oct 13, 2018, 21:39
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I flirted with taking him too, but couldn't pull the trigger. I think I had him on my roster for a short time last year as well, but maybe without SVG he will finally reach his potential.
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| | | 116 | GO
ID: 578392522
Sat, Oct 13, 2018, 22:57
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regular season thread started here...
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