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| Posted by: Bean
- [304422310] Sun, Nov 08, 2020, 11:28
Constitution
I Site / Stat Source / League Fees
All game, roster and scoring rules will be governed by Yahoo. There is no fee for using Yahoo.
II Draft
The Supplemental Draft consists of a slow draft and held on the Draftime.com website. Time limits will be three hours for individual picks and 8 hours cumulative clock. You may draft until your picks run out or you have reached twelve (12) players. The clock will be stopped from 11:00 p.m. – 9 a.m. ET but picks may be made during that time. If you time out, you will be skipped and may select at any time. If you have been skipped and have not made up that pick and it becomes your turn again, you will be skipped for that pick as well. If you leave a Q and that person is available to post your pick, you will not be charged any time on your cumulative clock.
The draft order will be reverse of last year's regular season finish and it will NOT snake. Only players currently in the NBA database are eligible to be drafted. Waivers Priority will begin in the same order as the basic draft order (lottery excluded). Please note: The bottom 14 teams will be in the lottery similar to the actual NBA draft. Top three picks for next year will be selected via lottery. 4th-14th picks will be selected based on inverse order of standings.
III League Settings:
Draft Type: Offline Draft and E-mail draft
Max Teams: 20
Scoring Type: Rotisserie
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Trade Review: League Votes (7 needed to veto)
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules
Max Games Played: 720 (enforced by position)
Roster Positions: G, G, F, F, C, Util, Util, Util, BN, BN, BN, BN, IL
Stat Categories: FG%, FT%, 3PTM, PTS, OREB, REB, AST, ST, BLK
IV Minimum Games Played / Penalties
A team must accumulate a minimum of 656 GP (82 GP/pos) over the course of a season. For each 8 games of shortfall (1 GP/pos), a team is assigned one demerit. Demerits will be integer values only. Thus, a team with 1-8 games of shortfall will receive one demerit, 9-16 will receive 2 demerits, etc.
If a team finishes in the money for prize pool purposes (ranked 1-6), then demerits will be ignored.
For lottery teams, the following penalties will be applied to every pick in the next year's supplement draft:
If a team accumulates more than 10 demerits, then it will be removed from the lottery and assigned the 14th pick in all rounds (i.e., behind all lottery teams, but ahead of any prize pool teams.)
For teams with less than 10 demerits, that team is pushed forward one place in the supplemental draft rankings for each demerit. For example, if a team finishes in last place (20th) and has 5 demerits, then that team will be treated in the draft rankings as though it finished in 15th place (and the teams actually finishing in places 16-20 will each move down one place.)
If more than one lottery team has a demerit, then the lottery rankings will be successively applied starting with the worst finisher and then moving up to the next worst finisher, etc.
Note: While the maximum number of games is measured on a GP/pos (enforced by the ESPN site), the minimum number of games is NOT. For minimum games, all measurements are based on total games played without regard for position.
V Trades
All trades during the season must be submitted via the website's offer trade feature to the league for review. If there is a draft pick it needs to be posted in our thread at rotoguru.com and needs to be confirmed by both parties. You might want to rationalize your trade as it takes just 7 members to reject the trade. You have one day to reject it so please check the site at LEAST once per day (many will have the email feature that emails all accepted trades). Remember with a Keeper league there may be draft picks involved so take the time to check those before rejecting it. Please only reject a trade based on the trade and not the teams involved. A trade by its very nature should help both teams either now, the future or both. All off-season/preseason trades will be governed by a commish.
VI Keepers
Returning owners will have a deadline to declare what players from their team they wish to keep. Each owner may keep up to 6.
You may keep less than six. You may trade keepers after you have declared, but you may not go over six until all 20 teams have officially declared at the Keeper deadline. At that point you may go up to 12 players.
If you keep less than six, the only way you can add a sixth keeper is via trade. You may not drop a player until after the draft is complete.
If you do not name your Keepers by the deadline, the commish(s) will choose those for you and they will be final. If you post your Keepers after the deadline but before the commish posts, your Keepers will be honored. Typically the commish(s) will start figuring out uncommitted Keepers as soon as the deadline has passed.
All un-kept players will go into the draft. A player MUST be in the NBA database in order to be kept.
The only off-season transactions that will be allowed are trades. No free agents may be picked up after the end of the season. Trades of a player for a draft pick are allowed.
VII Prizes
A fine plaque will be engraved and shipped to the winner courtesy of the previous year's winner. The trophy will be yours to proudly display with your other cherished mementos for 1 year. It will be the winner's responsibility to engrave it and ship it to the winner. There will be an added nominal fee to help cover expenses related to the engraving and shipping of the plaque.
A separate cash prize pool has also been established. It is strictly voluntary. Only those who participate will be eligible for this prize. $15 USD entry must be paid by the season opener. The exact method of prize distribution will vary from year to year depending on participation. We focus payouts so it will NOT be winner take all. Six owners will have a chance to win something. Prize pool funds are due by Opening Night.
Subject to change, 2019-2020 Payout has six managers paid:
1st $100
2nd $60
3rd $35
4th $25
5th $20
6th $15
Total Payouts is 19 X $15 = $ 285 ($30 to trophy fund and for Draftime costs)
Ineligible for prize pool:
PD
If any of the non-participants qualify, the prizes will be reallocated by the commissioners. Managers will move up payout position(s) and any remaining funds will go into the trophy fund.
VIII Owners
As commissioners, we reserve the right NOT to extend an invitation to or remove any owner for any reason. Primary reason for being excluded would be abusive behavior (beyond friendly trash talk, harassment), purposeful rules violations (i.e. colluding on a trade), inactivity (i.e. leaving injured players in as starters repeatedly), unresponsive to other owners or commish(s), missing deadlines (i.e. keepers, draft picks, etc.). If an owner is NOT invited back next year. A new owner will be recruited to take over the vacated team in its exact state.
2020 Draft Pick Trades:
RSF 1st for Florian 4th
GOs 3rd for RSF 6th
Meatwads 5th for ttu 3rd (2019 draft swap)
ttucowboy 6th for ttucowby 3rd owned by Meatwads (Jordan/Wood)
ttucowboy 5th (warren) for meatwards 2nd (reddish)
GO 2nd to r$money 6th (Bledsoe/Tybulle)
League Champions:
2003 Peter N
2004 A Perfect 10
2005 Twarpy
2006 RecycledSpinalFluid
2007 beastiemiked
2008 beastiemiked
2009 Ref
2010 Pete N.
2011 Pacers Rule
2012 beastiemiked
2013 Great One
2014 WG
2015 Species
2016 Pete N.
2017 RecycledSpinalFluid
2018 RecycledSpinalFluid
2019 RecycledSpinalFluid
2020 RecycledSpinalFluid |
| | | 1 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Sun, Nov 08, 2020, 11:30
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Last Year's Standings
1. RSF - Mr Big Bucks
2. GO Sixers
3. Skinnee J's
3. coldwater coyotes
5. Mighty Meatwads
6. youngroman's Luschen
7. PT's Pleasant Team
8. SANFORDORS
8. Weekend Over
10. Bean's Buckeyes
11. Fred's Team
12. Munson Mobsters
13. Kevin Love Fan Club
14. Florian’s Team
15. ttucowboy
16. Wazaaap Guy
17. KnicksFan
18. BB the Ball
19. Roto Guru20
20. gerren z's Team
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| | | 2 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Sun, Nov 08, 2020, 11:35
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Proposed Schedule:
MON 30 NOV - Teams Owners locked
FRI 11 DEC 11:59 PM Eastern - Keeper Deadline
SUN 13 DEC - Draft Turned On
MON 14 DEC 11:59 PM Eastern - Draft Clock on
TUE 22 DEC - Season Starts
Tentative 72 Game Season
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| | | 3 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Sun, Nov 08, 2020, 12:14
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Need last years owners to let me know if they are returning. Also, our two sophomore owners (Geren & Rick) need to let us know if they will be playing for cash during this roll call. If you are reading this, and know another owner, please let him know to check in.
Meanwhile, take a look at pick trades & payouts above for accuracy. I added the IL slot to the rules above, probably need to update the Prizes section too.
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| | | 4 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Sun, Nov 08, 2020, 12:14
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I am in
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| | | 5 | ttucowboy
ID: 21029813
Sun, Nov 08, 2020, 14:29
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In
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| | | 6 | twolves
SuperDude
ID: 811161317
Sun, Nov 08, 2020, 17:50
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In
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| | | 7 | Tosh
Dude
ID: 057721710
Mon, Nov 09, 2020, 02:56
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In
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| | | 8 | WG
ID: 89402220
Mon, Nov 09, 2020, 10:54
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In
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| | | 9 | GO
ID: 517342812
Mon, Nov 09, 2020, 11:59
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Of course.
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| | | 10 | youngroman
ID: 515013
Mon, Nov 09, 2020, 12:43
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In
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| | | 11 | WG
ID: 89402220
Mon, Nov 09, 2020, 14:49
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Btw, RSF winning this league 4x in a row has got to be one of the more impressive feats across Gurupie land.
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| | | 12 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 31526820
Mon, Nov 09, 2020, 21:35
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I'll be back with my bunch of scrubs...
Lots of talented teams, so I suspect the reign may come to an end soon.
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| | | 13 | Fosten
ID: 131049118
Wed, Nov 11, 2020, 09:26
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I'm in
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| | | 14 | Meatwads
ID: 561011117
Wed, Nov 11, 2020, 10:29
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I'm in.
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| | | 15 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Nov 11, 2020, 13:34
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in
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| | | 16 | B.B. the ball
ID: 78142813
Fri, Nov 13, 2020, 23:17
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In
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| | | 17 | GO
ID: 517342812
Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 13:20
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League renewed, thanks Bean.
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| | | 18 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 18:09
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Still have not heard from:
3. Skinnee J's
3. coldwater coyotes
8. SANFORDORS
8. Weekend Over
11. Fred's Team
14. Florian’s Team
17. KnicksFan
20. gerren z's Team
I'll send out e-mail soon to get them engaged.
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| | | 19 | KnicksFan
ID: 481022168
Mon, Nov 16, 2020, 09:31
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In
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| | | 20 | Florian
ID: 298441917
Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 09:21
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I will not be returning. Good luck to everyone.
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| | | 21 | Philly Busters
ID: 311122313
Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 10:34
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I'd be interested in joining if you need a new manager to replace Florian.
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| | | 22 | R-Money
ID: 59710815
Thu, Nov 19, 2020, 20:17
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Sorry Bean - I am in - Weekend over.
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| | | 23 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Fri, Nov 20, 2020, 11:08
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<21>Phil, thanks you're in as a replacement manager for sure. We will likely have other managers letting us know they wont be returning or perhaps not posting anything, and letting us figure it out ourselves.
Typically, we create a random selection order for new managers to take over vacated teams. Please stand by.
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| | | 24 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 31526820
Sun, Nov 22, 2020, 23:11
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Man, what a dizzying couple of days. I don't know who is where anymore.
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| | | 25 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 15:48
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Just realized we are a month out from the season start...
I am IN, sorry for the delay
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| | | 26 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Wed, Nov 25, 2020, 14:38
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Per Fred at Draft Time in response to my asking when it will be available:
I have it on my to do list this weekend. I'm hoping most of the free agency and other contacts will be done by then... *fingers crossed *
Look for renewal of Draft Time next week.
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| | | 27 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Wed, Nov 25, 2020, 20:23
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Still have not heard from:
3. coldwater coyotes
8. SANFORDORS
11. Fred's Team
20. gerren z's Team
Florian is leaving and Philly Busters is our only new person so far.
Have sent a third e-mail to these four via Yahoo. If anyone has another way to contact them please do so.
Meanwhile, if you have a friend who might be interested in taking over a vacated team, please have them leave a message here or send me an e-mail with an obvious subject line.
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| | | 28 | Perm Dude
ID: 3310302519
Wed, Nov 25, 2020, 20:30
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In!
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| | | 29 | Perm Dude
ID: 3310302519
Wed, Nov 25, 2020, 20:31
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(Fred's Team)
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| | | 30 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Wed, Nov 25, 2020, 21:12
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I'm in
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| | | 31 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Mon, Nov 30, 2020, 10:21
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I have renewed the league at Draft Time. I've sent Gerren and coldwater coyotes yet another e-mail and I have posted a search for replacement managers thread in the event of an increasingly likely need.
Morgan (Art of Monk) has offered to take over one team. So we may need another still, please continue to canvass your friends.
Meanwhile, please check draft time to ensure you have been enrolled in the gurupie 20 league's draft. And if you haven't already, make sure you are enrolled in the Yahoo League too.
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| | | 32 | artofmonk
ID: 4210203010
Mon, Nov 30, 2020, 11:20
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I am interested.
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| | | 33 | Coldwater coyotes
ID: 010133016
Mon, Nov 30, 2020, 17:13
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I resigned from this league (see previous postings) following the obvious collusion between friends - trade of Eric Bledsoe for Matisse Thybulle.
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| | | 34 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Mon, Nov 30, 2020, 20:31
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Ok CC,
Appreciate your response. We'll hopefully find a replacement.
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| | | 35 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Dec 01, 2020, 10:27
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Only 2 teams failed to reach the prorated GP minimums for last season, of those managers have decided to withdraw from the league. Our practice has been that we waive any lottery penalties associated with failure to reach GP minimums when the team is transferred to a new manager.
I will be running the lottery momentarily.
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| | | 36 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Dec 01, 2020, 10:33
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Well, that was fun.
Lottery results:
Pick #1: Guru
Pick #2: Gerren's team
Pick #3: Fosten (Munson Mobsters)
Spreadsheet with details is here:
http://rotoguru1.com/hoop/G20/G20-Dec20-14x4_balls.xls
Random number draws were also automatically sent to Bean via email.
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| | | 37 | Perm Dude
ID: 3310302519
Tue, Dec 01, 2020, 10:45
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Am interested if you need a manager.
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| | | 38 | Perm Dude
ID: 3310302519
Tue, Dec 01, 2020, 10:46
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Sorry--I meant I know someone who is interested!
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| | | 39 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Tue, Dec 01, 2020, 10:46
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From above:
2020 Draft Pick Trades:
RSF 1st for Florian 4th
GOs 3rd for RSF 6th
Meatwads 5th for ttu 3rd (2019 draft swap)
ttucowboy 6th for ttucowby 3rd owned by Meatwads (Jordan/Wood)
ttucowboy 5th (warren) for meatwards 2nd (reddish)
GO 2nd to r$money 6th (Bledsoe/Tybulle)
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| | | 40 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Tue, Dec 01, 2020, 10:48
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Hehe, you trying to play two teams PD? Have the guy who is interested post here.
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| | | 41 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Tue, Dec 01, 2020, 11:10
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Here are the three vacated Teams. Player ranking is AVG stats 2019-20 Season.
Coldwater Coyotes (finished tied for 3rd)
019 J. Butler Mia - G,F
029 R. Gobert Uta - C
035 D. Fox Sac - G
038 F. VanVleet Tor - G
059 J. Jackson Jr. Mem - F,C
060 K. Oubre Jr. GS - F
097 O. Anunoby Tor - F
122 J. Richardson Dal - G,F
125 P. Washington Cha - F
180 J. Crowder Pho - F
228 J. Clarkson Uta - G
364 N. Reid Min - C
404 B. Knight Det - G
No pick trades
Florian's Team (finished 14th)
16 Bradley Beal Was - G
32 Zach LaVine Chi - G,F
39 Brandon Ingram NO - F
56 LaMarcus Aldridge SA - F,C
77 Lauri Markkanen Chi - F
113 RJ Barrett NY - G,F
114 Norman Powell Tor - G,F
143 Robert Williams Bos - F,C
154 Delon Wright Det - G,F
192 Goga Bitadze Ind - C
283 Furkan Korkmaz Phi - G
2000 Jonathan Isaac Orl - F
2020 Draft Pick Trades:
RSF 1st for Florian 4th
Gerren's team (finished 20th)
66 Tyler Herro Mia - G,F
80 Derrick White SA - G
81 Wendell Carter Jr. Chi - C
91 Michael Porter Jr. Den - F
133 Luke Kennard LAC - G,F
134 Marc Gasol LAL - C
222 Kris Dunn Atl - G,F
248 Anfernee Simons Por - G
262 Bruno Fernando Atl - C
272 Shabazz Napier Was - G
288 Chris Boucher Tor - F,C
407 Norvel Pelle Phi - C
2001 Klay Thompson GS - G,F
No pick trades
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| | | 42 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 31526820
Wed, Dec 02, 2020, 02:22
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Bean, just so you know, I appreciate you.
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| | | 43 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Wed, Dec 02, 2020, 13:19
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Made a couple of changes to settings at Yahoo.
Trade Deadline is 9 APR, the latest they would let me set it. Last Season we used 4 weeks before season ends. So, best I could do.
Max Games of 80 per position vs our customary 90 per position. This is due to a 72 Game schedule vs the normal 82 game schedule.
Along the same lines, minimum GP will be adjusted to 576 (72 GP/position) vs the usual 656 (82 GP/position).
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| | | 44 | GO
ID: 517342812
Wed, Dec 02, 2020, 15:18
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Thanks Bean, that all sounds good. I need to copy that for Jeepers Keepers as that all makes sense.
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| | | 45 | WG
ID: 89402220
Wed, Dec 02, 2020, 17:24
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Thanks for your administration and efforts, Bean.
TRADE
WG gets Gordon Hayward and Brook Lopez
GO gets CJ McCollum
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| | | 46 | GO
ID: 14143919
Wed, Dec 02, 2020, 20:42
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Confirmed.
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| | | 47 | BB the Ball
ID: 5110333020
Wed, Dec 02, 2020, 20:48
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Are there any trade restrictions while we wait for managers or are we free to deal?
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| | | 48 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 31526820
Wed, Dec 02, 2020, 22:23
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I'd assume we can make trades, as it doesn't really affect ownerless teams. Now if you make a trade with one of those teams, there might be an issue...
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| | | 49 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Thu, Dec 03, 2020, 10:00
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Trade away guys. All parties must post here to start a 48 hour clock. If you don't like a trade say something. If there's enough noise during those 48 hours we'll vote on it.
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| | | 50 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Thu, Dec 03, 2020, 10:15
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Just so we are all on the same page here. I am waiting to hear from PD's friend to say he is ready to take one of the three vacated teams. Once he does that, we'll random the order for choosing teams. The new owners will choose, then I will give them their teams in Yahoo, and we'll get PD's friend into Draft Time.
We're running out of time though, so if I don't hear from his friend soon, it gets a little dicey. Without him joining us here, or someone else stepping forward in the next couple days, we may have to go with just 19 teams this year. So, stand by.
Meanwhile, I'll post the draft matrix and create a keepers thread today. You'll have til 11 DEC to post keepers in that thread.
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| | | 51 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Thu, Dec 03, 2020, 11:14
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I have Harrison Barnes as my 6th starter for now, but that may change before the deadline.
Can only keep one of these guys:
Harrison Barnes, G, SAC
Spencer Dinwiddie, G, BKN
Kevin Porter Jr, G, CLE
Jakob Poeltl, C, SA
Thadeus Young, F, CHI
JJ Reddick, G, NO
As you might expect, looking for a 2 of mine for one of yours upgrade or pick(s). E-mail me if interested.
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| | | 52 | Skinneej
ID: 11931511
Thu, Dec 03, 2020, 11:44
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Bean if you end up needed a 20th manager let me know I have a couple potential managers that may be interested in taking the last spot if PDs friend doesn’t. I don’t want the league to end up with 19, but I will not press on them unless we end up needed someone.
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| | | 53 | Perm Dude
ID: 3310302519
Thu, Dec 03, 2020, 12:20
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Just heard from my friend, so has to back out, unfortunately.
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| | | 54 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Thu, Dec 03, 2020, 12:48
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Skinneej,
Guess PD has giving you the marching orders.
Have one of your friends post here that they are ready to play. I'll need an e-mail address for him/her to get the invites rolling.
Thanks
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| | | 55 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Thu, Dec 03, 2020, 16:38
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Ok I'll reach out and see who is most interested
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| | | 56 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Thu, Dec 03, 2020, 16:43
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Here is the link to the G20 Draft Matrix
Let me know if you find an issue.
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| | | 57 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 31526820
Thu, Dec 03, 2020, 17:47
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Current 6th Keeper is Miles Bridges, because of my previous investment in him, but tossing things around:
Bojan Bogdanovic Uta - F - Scoring dynamo
Duncan Robinson Mia - G,F - Elite 3s and continued development
DeMarcus Cousins Hou - F,C - Interesting what he and Wall can do together, or what juice he has left
Kevin Knox II NY - F
OK, maybe not Knox the Second.
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| | | 58 | BB the Ball
ID: 5110333020
Thu, Dec 03, 2020, 19:53
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LOL RSF--- trades with ownerless teams are frowned upon in this league :) I will make sure to note it!
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| | | 59 | BB the Ball
ID: 5110333020
Thu, Dec 03, 2020, 20:03
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Anyone have an interest in Conley, Bogdan Bodanovic, Rudy Gay Justice Winslow, or Montrezl Harrell for some draft position?
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| | | 60 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Thu, Dec 03, 2020, 21:50
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Ok my buddy Graham is in. I sent him the link to this thread to post.
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| | | 61 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Thu, Dec 03, 2020, 23:00
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Get Graham to post here skineej and we are off and running.
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| | | 62 | GraysonAllenBlows
ID: 11124322
Thu, Dec 03, 2020, 23:24
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Hey, this is Graham. As Eric mentioned, definitely interested in stepping in. Appreciate the invite.
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| | | 63 | ttucowboy
ID: 111144322
Thu, Dec 03, 2020, 23:50
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Bean - Thank you for all your work running the league!
New Folks - Welcome to the jungle!
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| | | 64 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Thu, Dec 03, 2020, 23:50
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OK now that we have our three new owners. I did a random order that they should have all received from this website I have been using. It requires 8 teams minimum but I just entered null fields for the other 5 teams. Here was the result that you all should have received:
Pick # Team Name
1 Ignore
2 Ignore
3 Ignore
4 GraysonAllenBlows
5 ArtofMonk
6 Ignore
7 Ignore
8 PhillyBusters
That reduces down to this:
#1 GraysonAllenBlows
#2 ArtofMonk
#3 PhillyBusters
So, Graham you get first pick of the three teams
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| | | 65 | GraysonAllenBlows
ID: 11124322
Fri, Dec 04, 2020, 00:30
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I'll take chalk here and stick with the Coyotes as my team pick.
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| | | 66 | Philly Busters
ID: 311122313
Fri, Dec 04, 2020, 09:16
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Ouch! Nothing like starting at the bottom to learn the ropes. I believe I'll opt out of $$ for this year since I'm not here to be a charitable organization. Maybe I can improve the roster and actually get a few players for next year who are starters for their NBA teams. All kidding aside, low expectations for this year but there are definitely a few guys here who have the potential to develop into serviceable, even desirable, fantasy assets. I'm sure there are multiple teams where all 6 keepers are projected to be better than my best. Good thing I enjoy a challenge! Looking forward to the season and thanks for the opportunity.
If anyone wants to trade me a throw away asset in exchange for a draft pick upgrade in rounds 4 - 6, let me know. Not giving up a 1 - 3 unless it's for a young, already productive player. I could really use a starting PG....
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| | | 67 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Fri, Dec 04, 2020, 09:23
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Upgrade my 6th and you can have Spencer Dinwiddie Phil. Hey, maybe Morgan will take Gerren's team. ;)
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| | | 68 | Philly Busters
ID: 311122313
Fri, Dec 04, 2020, 09:36
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Ha, ha, good one Bean! Dare to dream! Thanks for the offer. Dinwiddie is clearly not starting ahead of Flat Earth Irving. Maybe he'll fall off the edge before the season... I'll keep an eye on how things develop through the start of preseason camps and let you know. I'll also wait for the chance to access the league and review the rosters to get a sense of what will be available in the draft.
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| | | 69 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Fri, Dec 04, 2020, 09:44
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You got Morgan's e-mail....wanna borrow my cattle prod?
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| | | 70 | Philly Busters
ID: 311122313
Fri, Dec 04, 2020, 10:03
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What I think might work is access to his email account so I could choose a team for him, lol
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| | | 71 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Fri, Dec 04, 2020, 13:06
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Morgan selected Florian's team.
Sent invites to the teams on Yahoo.
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| | | 72 | Meatwads
ID: 231122523
Sun, Dec 06, 2020, 02:01
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Hey everyone. Welcome to the new managers!
I'm glad we were able to get all this together. I've always enjoyed this league.
Since keepers are due in less than a week, I want to get my trade options out there.
Every player can be traded for the right price, but I'll keep it realistic.
Ayton, Zion, and Shai are the core of my present and future. I'm not expecting to trade them within the next week.
D'Angelo and MRobinson are more available but unlikely anyone values them in trade as much as I would want.
That leaves Lonzo Ball, T.J. Warren and Dejounte Murray for my final spot.
I haven't committed to one over the others yet, so I'm open to hearing offers.
All three players are ranked between 52-64 on Yahoo, so clear keepers.
Lonzo is age 23. Dejounte is 24. Warren is 27.
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| | | 73 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Mon, Dec 07, 2020, 10:53
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OK, still outstanding on the to do list is who is playing for $ this year.
Sophomore player RMoney, needs to decide if he is permanently playing for $.
Of the Rookies, Phil has elected to defer the $ decision until next year. Still need to hear from Morgan or Graham.
Guru is the treasurer. I'll leave this in his capable hands now.
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| | | 74 | R-Money
ID: 59710815
Mon, Dec 07, 2020, 12:54
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Bean,
In for Money - remind me the damage pls.
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| | | 75 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 31526820
Mon, Dec 07, 2020, 13:20
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$15
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| | | 76 | artofmonk
ID: 301137713
Mon, Dec 07, 2020, 14:37
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I will defer until next year as well on the $.
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| | | 77 | artofmonk
ID: 301137713
Mon, Dec 07, 2020, 14:41
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can you resend me the league invite? I can't seem to find it.
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| | | 78 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Mon, Dec 07, 2020, 14:59
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Re-sent. Let me know if u got it.
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| | | 79 | WG
ID: 89402220
Mon, Dec 07, 2020, 15:34
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Few trade pieces here
1.06 pick
Gordon Hayward
Malcolm Brogdon
Blake Griffin
Derrick Favors
Also still looking to acquire another keeper if anyone sees a viable 1 for 2 from my end.
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| | | 80 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 31526820
Tue, Dec 08, 2020, 18:54
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How many IR slots do we have? As much as I initial bitched about them last year, I see a valid need for them this year with missed COVID games.
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| | | 81 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Tue, Dec 08, 2020, 20:29
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From rules above:
Roster Positions: G, G, F, F, C, Util, Util, Util, BN, BN, BN, BN, IL
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| | | 82 | Philly Busters
ID: 311122313
Tue, Dec 08, 2020, 21:35
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As a new manager, I'm not looking to suggest changes but thought I'd share an opinion on IL slots. It seems to me that the minimum game penalty combined with the shortage of IL slots and the frequency that NBA teams put players on IL forces managers to choose between incurring the penalties or dropping quality players. Is that the intent?
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| | | 83 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Tue, Dec 08, 2020, 21:57
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We only first started doing IL last season when we moved from ESPN to Yahoo. If I remember right, we voted for only ONE slot, and that was when COVID wasn't even a rumor yet.
For the new guys, we kinda run this league by committee. GO handles rule changes and the constitution. I'll let him field questions/issues about this. If there is a need/desire to change the rule, he will be handling that.
Just don't propose ANYTHING that requires me to monitor something during the season. It simply wont happen. I need to load manage.
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| | | 84 | twolves
SuperDude
ID: 811161317
Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 09:56
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I would be for possibly increasing IL to 2 for just this year if Yahoo allows but with small squads one position may be all that is needed since we survived without it until last year. Otherwise, drop/reduce required games played for this year only since likely everyone will have players with COVID who cannot play or if games count as DNP probably does not matter.
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| | | 85 | KnicksFan
ID: 31111589
Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 12:33
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Trade
KF receives Malcolm Brogdon + Pick 5.05
WG receives Pick 2.04
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| | | 86 | WG
ID: 89402220
Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 12:45
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confirmed
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| | | 87 | ttucowboy
ID: 111144322
Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 15:01
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I’m not sure if Yahoo does, but most platforms have had a Covid taxi squad option for football. Seems like a good idea here if possible.
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| | | 88 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 19:13
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Awaiting keepers from the following:
GraysonAllenBlows
Dave R
R-Money
Perm Dude
Fosten
Guru
Deadline is 11 DEC 11:59PM EST
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| | | 89 | R-Money
ID: 59710815
Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 21:08
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Looking for a 6th Keeper. Email me please. Rickmahan at yahoo.com
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| | | 90 | GraysonAllenBlows
ID: 11124322
Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 21:59
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Got five of my keepers locked in but currently debating my sixth (Oubre or Anunoby).
If anyone is intrigued by either of those gentleman feel free to email or reply (duffuga00@gmail.com).
Locked in keepers:
Jimmy Buckets
Goebert
Jaren Jackson
VanVleet
De'Aaron Fox
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| | | 91 | GraysonAllenBlows
ID: 11124322
Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 22:00
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Also, wherever I owe money just lemme know and I'll shoot it out.
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| | | 92 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 11:08
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I'll post about prize pool fees within the next few days.
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| | | 93 | Fosten
ID: 3111131015
Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 16:20
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Hey folks, it's your friendly neighborhood Fosten here. I had grandiose plans to write up an eloquent post packed full of jokes and riddles, and then track down a few trade partners who I might match up well with. But here it is Thursday already and time is running short, so I'll make it brief. As you may have noticed, I love me some of them there deadline deals! This is my 3rd year in the league. I made 2 pre-keeper trades in year #1, 2 pre-keeper trades in year #2, and I'd like to keep that streak going in year #3! Willing to get creative and trade players from the top, middle, or bottom of this list.
C Bam Adebayo
PG Russell Westbrook
PF Tobias Harris
SF Caris LeVert
C Jusuf Nurkic
G Jarrett Culver
SF Mikal Bridges
SG Kevin Huerter
PF Moritz Wagner
PF/C Harry Giles
SG Lonnie Walker IV
PF Marquese Chriss
SF/SF Josh Jackson
If any of these players are of interest to you, be sure to reach out. I plan on refreshing this page up until 11:59pm Friday. Deadline warriors unite! Peace.
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| | | 94 | Meatwads
ID: 1411541010
Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 22:01
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Trade Announcement
Meatwads trade
T.J. Warren, F, IND
Pick 6.16
WG trades
Pick 3.05
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| | | 95 | WG
ID: 89402220
Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 23:54
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confirmed
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| | | 96 | WG
Donor
ID: 35338278
Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 10:27
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TRADE
WG gets Kelly Oubre and 1.17
GraysonAllenBlows gets 1.06
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| | | 97 | GraysonAllenBlows
ID: 11124322
Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 10:39
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Confirmed
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| | | 98 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 11:25
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Awaiting keepers from the following:
GraysonAllenBlows
R-Money
Perm Dude
Fosten
Deadline is 11 DEC 11:59PM EST
That's TODAY guys!!!
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| | | 99 | artofmonk
ID: 301137713
Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 12:43
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Hey Fosten, Shoot me an email about a trade. morganboyack@yahoo.com. I am in Bam, Russ, Harris, Nurkic and Bridges. Maybe swapping some keepers and picks.
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| | | 101 | Perm Dude
ID: 111541112
Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 14:00
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posted!
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| | | 102 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 31526820
Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 14:14
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PermDude...we have 6 keepers.
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| | | 103 | Philly Busters
ID: 311122313
Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 16:22
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Bean! Need to reset the keeper deadline. It was 3:00 AM this morning.
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| | | 104 | Meatwads
ID: 1411541010
Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 18:42
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Trade Announcement
Meatwads trade
Lonzo Ball, G, NO
Pick 5.06
R-Money trades
Pick 2.12
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| | | 105 | R-Money
ID: 59710815
Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 18:45
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confirm 104
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| | | 106 | ttucowboy
ID: 2311111119
Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 20:12
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Trade Announcement
ttucowboy trades:
4.06
GrayAllenBlows trades:
PJ Washington
6.18
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| | | 107 | GraysonAllenBlows
ID: 11124322
Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 21:24
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confirmed
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| | | 108 | GraysonAllenBlows
ID: 11124322
Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 22:06
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GraysonAllenBlows Keepers:
Jimmy Buckets
Goebert
Jaren Jackson
VanVleet
De'Aaron Fox
OG Anunoby
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| | | 109 | Perm Dude
ID: 3211421121
Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 22:44
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Thanks. The Yahoo app is a pita when it comes to figuring out keepers.
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| | | 110 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 23:05
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<103> Phil, I believe you are talking about Yahoo. If you didn't get them in there its not a big deal. I will just enter them manually. As I posted, the official keepers are those in the keeper thread.
<108> Graham, you're new, so I assume you are still coming up to speed with what we are doing here. I will transfer your picks to the keeper thread for you, on the assumption that you wont see this post before the deadline.
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| | | 111 | WG
ID: 89402220
Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 23:06
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Re 94, turns out TJ Warren is hurting a bit, and Meat and I weren't aware of it at the time of the deal. Meat has graciously and generously allowed me to reverse it, for which I am grateful. Bean also stated it would be ok if we both agree. I hope other league managers don't have an issue? Sorry for late post on this.
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| | | 112 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 23:08
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<94> Meat post a confirmation when you read this
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| | | 113 | WG
ID: 89402220
Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 23:17
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art, got an email for trade talks?
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| | | 114 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 23:35
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Been a long day guys, filled with drama of the non-fantasy sports variety. I am old and need a long rest tonight after that. If I missed anyone's issues, I will try to address them when I re-read all the correspondence in the morning.
We're still missing Fosten's keepers, I sent him a text. He's pretty good about this stuff, hopefully all is well with him. And you all as well.
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| | | 115 | Fosten
ID: 131049118
Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 23:54
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Fosten receives
2.04
WG receives
Mikael Bridges
6th round pick
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| | | 116 | WG
ID: 89402220
Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 23:54
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confirmed
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| | | 117 | Meatwads
ID: 1411541010
Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 01:03
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<111> Confirming that we are reversing that trade. I hope nobody has an issue with this as well. It didn't feel right making WG keep someone who might be out for an undisclosed amount of time. Looking forward to the draft!
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| | | 118 | Philly Busters
ID: 311122313
Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 09:36
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Can't imagine that anyone would have an issue with reversing the trade. Especially since all you'd have to do is execute a 2nd trade that sets things back to the way they were. Good luck to all in the draft! Looking forward to it!
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| | | 119 | GO
ID: 14143919
Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 09:58
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Trade them back or it doesn't count! Lol
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| | | 120 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 16:01
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I have updated the Draft Matrix with your picks including all trades to date. Hopefully, I didn't miss anything.
Check it out.
Let me know ASAP if you find an error.
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| | | 121 | WG
Donor
ID: 35338278
Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 16:52
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My 2-6 with Fosten doesn’t appear to be reflected. Thanks Bean.
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| | | 122 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 17:20
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Fixed, thanks WG
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| | | 123 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 17:22
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OK you can check the "Draft Results" in Yahoo to see both your picks and keepers. Also, now the players tab should only show the non-keepers now
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| | | 124 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 19:00
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I plan to open the draft tomorrow morning sometime. Probably around 10 AM EST. Hopefully, I haven't messed up inputting the keepers or picks.
If you see something wrong, let me know ASAP and I will fix it or figure out the work around.
There will be no clock initially. There will be a four hour clock in effect Tuesday morning. There will be a daily clock pause midnight to 8 AM EST daily.
Our pace is around a round per day once the clock starts. This is not a break neck pace. Dont be that guy please, use queues whenever you can.
If you make a trade during the draft, I will try to respond to it as quickly as I can. Understand this, we will not stop the draft so that you can clear the 48 hour protest window. If the you make the trade and enough people vote it down, you will receive the player that was picked in your spot. This isn't negotiable. So be damn sure you have a fair trade or just wait until after the draft and make my life simpler.
Most of you know, I am commish for three rotoguru leagues this year, all using draft time. Your patience isnt just appreciated, its mandatory.
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| | | 125 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 19:11
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Oh, one more thing.
The lack of a clock is to give people time to get their queues in order, and find mistakes I may have made. Its essentially the morning coffee after the wake up call.
Its not there so you can drag ass to gain more time to see what trade rumor is materializing, watch usage of your guy in a preseason game etc. So, dont be that guy.
Though there is no clock, pretend that there is one. Thats a rule of thumb you can easily understand.
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| | | 126 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Sun, Dec 13, 2020, 12:07
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Draft has started. No Clock til Tuesday Morning. Sorry for the delay.
Check to make sure that your keepers and picks have been loaded correctly and let me know ASAP if you find an error. Start loading a queue now, dont wait until its been your pick for 3 hours and 55 minutes to start your research.
The proper etiquette here is that you should be picking as if you were on a four hour clock, you just wont be skipped if you screw that up. Please be considerate of the other 19 managers.
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| | | 127 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sun, Dec 13, 2020, 12:34
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From the treasurer:
Prize pool dues for the coming season are $15. There is no assessment for a trophy fund again this year, as that continues to be amply funded.
As background for the new managers, we have an optional prize pool. All participating managers contribute $15 at the start of the season, and the pool is distributed at the end to the top six finishers. The actual award amounts are subject to the total amount in the pool, but generally range from about $90-$100 to the winner down to $15 for the #6 team.
New managers do not need to opt into the pool in their first year. But by the second year, they must decide to be in or out. Once you opt in, you must remain in the pool each year to continue in the pool. If you should ever opt out after the first year, then you can never opt back in.
Two managers have opted out: Perm Dude and BB the Ball.
The three new managers this year have the choice to opt in now or to defer their decision until next year.
Six managers have funds on account to cover the dues for 2020:
Dave R, RSF, GO, Meatwad, Youngroman, and Skinneej
Also, one manager has already graciouisly paid the dues for Bean in recognition of his diligent service.
So you 7 guys are already paid up.
Everyone else owes $15, according to my records. If you think I have missed any funds on account for you, please let me know.
Payments can be sent in either of the following ways:
1. Paypal: please send to davehall@rotoguru2.com. (Recipient will probably appear as Uncommon Cents LLC.) Designate this as “send money to friends and family”, and mark the payment only as "G20 hoops". Do not say "prize" or "pool". Those words are red flags for Paypal.
2. Snail mail: check can be sent to the address listed at the bottom of this page:
http://rotoguru2.com/gurupatron-info.html
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| | | 128 | Philly Busters
ID: 311122313
Sun, Dec 13, 2020, 13:25
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I'm opting out for this year
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| | | 129 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Sun, Dec 13, 2020, 23:39
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<127> First, thank you to whomever it was that picked up my tab. The secret Santa thing is nice, I'll be sure to pay it forward.
We managed to take a big bite out of the draft today, thank you to all for your excellent performance.
I have posted picks through 1.17 to Yahoo. If you see a mistake let me know.
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| | | 130 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 31526820
Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 12:18
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Getting pretty excited for my first pick in the draft. Nothing like finding and selecting the 160th best player in the league!
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| | | 131 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 31526820
Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 16:34
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Meatwads just became my mortal enemy...
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| | | 132 | Meatwads
ID: 1411541010
Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 17:46
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Does that mean I accidentally took a good player for once? Oh boy! My cat selected Blake Griffin in round 1, so we're still sorting things out.
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| | | 133 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Mon, Dec 14, 2020, 23:50
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I have posted picks through 3.05 to Yahoo. If you see a mistake let me know.
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| | | 134 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 12:09
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4 hour clock is in effect
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| | | 135 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 31526820
Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 16:43
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Patrick Williams...you were thisClose...
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| | | 136 | GraysonAllenBlows
ID: 11124322
Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 19:11
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I was pretty surprised he even got back to me. Let's go Bulls...
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| | | 137 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 31526820
Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 22:35
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Tosh grabbing the home grown, Tacoma's own, Malachi Flynn...local-ish enough. Nice.
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| | | 138 | Tosh
Dude
ID: 057721710
Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 23:48
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I can smell Tacoma from my house!
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| | | 139 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Wed, Dec 16, 2020, 00:38
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I have posted picks through 4.15 to Yahoo. If you see a mistake let me know.
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| | | 140 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 00:26
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I have posted picks through 6.04 to Yahoo. If you see a mistake let me know.
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| | | 141 | GO
ID: 517342812
Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 01:15
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Look out folks! I got 4 picks in the last 20 of the draft. Including Mr. Irrelevant +also Mr. Vice Irrelevant.
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| | | 142 | RecycledSpinalFuild
ID: 422332219
Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 10:51
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I may be breaking draft etiquette with this suggestion, but for Mr. Irrelevant, you should select...Jay Scrubb.
Then promptly cut his ass.
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| | | 143 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 11:21
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Still awaiting dues payment from Pete N, twolves, Fosten, and R-Money. Assuming that artofmonk will defer decision on participation until next year (unless I hear otherwise).
Thanks to the rest of you for your prompt payments.
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| | | 144 | GO
ID: 517342812
Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 13:53
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I was legit going to make Bol Bol the last pick you jerk.
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| | | 145 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 31526820
Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 13:58
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Two people that have Meatwads as mortal enemies???? Is this the start of the Evil League of Evil? Sweet!
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| | | 146 | ttucowboy
ID: 2311111119
Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 14:43
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Payment sent
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| | | 148 | GO
ID: 517342812
Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 16:03
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Taco and a 2nd or 3rd rounder next year available for a good veteran player! :)
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| | | 149 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 31526820
Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 16:43
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I just realized I drafted 5 SGs of my 6 selections...uh...I might have a slightly imbalanced roster design.
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| | | 150 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 17:32
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Draft is done.
Players are loaded to your teams in Yahoo.
All undrafted non-keepers are on waivers now.
Initial Waiver order is set.
If you find an error let me know.
Good luck.
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| | | 151 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 31526820
Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 17:38
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Many thanks Bean!
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| | | 152 | BB the Ball
ID: 5110333020
Fri, Dec 18, 2020, 17:36
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Thanks Bean for all of your work-- thanks to everyone for a fun awesome draft
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| | | 153 | Bean
ID: 304422310
Sat, Dec 19, 2020, 18:15
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This thread is now done. Please move correspondence to the Regular Season thread.
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