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| Posted by: Bean
- [12552510] Wed, Sep 14, 2022, 11:28
Constitution
I Site / Stat Source / League Fees
All game, roster and scoring rules will be governed by Yahoo. There is no fee for using Yahoo.
II Draft
The Supplemental Draft consists of a slow draft and held on the Draftime.com website. Time limits will be three hours for individual picks and 8 hours cumulative clock. You may draft until your picks run out or you have reached twelve (12) players. The clock will be stopped from midnight to 8 AM ET but picks may be made during that time. If you time out, you will be skipped and may select at any time. If you have been skipped and have not made up that pick and it becomes your turn again, you will be skipped for that pick as well. If you leave a Q and that person is available to post your pick, you will not be charged any time on your cumulative clock.
The draft order will be reverse of last year's regular season finish and it will NOT snake. Only players currently in the NBA database are eligible to be drafted. Waivers Priority will begin in the same order as the basic draft order (lottery excluded). Please note: The bottom 14 teams will be in the lottery similar to the actual NBA draft. Top three picks for next year will be selected via lottery. 4th-14th picks will be selected based on inverse order of standings.
III League Settings:
Draft Type: Offline Draft and E-mail draft
Max Teams: 20
Scoring Type: Rotisserie
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Trade Review: League Votes (7 needed to veto)
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules
Max Games Played: 720 (enforced by position)
Roster Positions: G, G, F, F, C, Util, Util, Util, BN, BN, BN, BN, IL
Stat Categories: FG%, FT%, 3PTM, PTS, OREB, REB, AST, ST, BLK
IV Minimum Games Played / Penalties
A team must accumulate a minimum of 656 GP (82 GP/pos) over the course of a season. For each 8 games of shortfall (1 GP/pos), a team is assigned one demerit. Demerits will be integer values only. Thus, a team with 1-8 games of shortfall will receive one demerit, 9-16 will receive 2 demerits, etc.
If a team finishes in the money for prize pool purposes (ranked 1-6), then demerits will be ignored.
For lottery teams, the following penalties will be applied to every pick in the next year's supplement draft:
If a team accumulates more than 10 demerits, then it will be removed from the lottery and assigned the 14th pick in all rounds (i.e., behind all lottery teams, but ahead of any prize pool teams.)
For teams with less than 10 demerits, that team is pushed forward one place in the supplemental draft rankings for each demerit. For example, if a team finishes in last place (20th) and has 5 demerits, then that team will be treated in the draft rankings as though it finished in 15th place (and the teams actually finishing in places 16-20 will each move down one place.)
If more than one lottery team has a demerit, then the lottery rankings will be successively applied starting with the worst finisher and then moving up to the next worst finisher, etc.
Note: While the maximum number of games is measured on a GP/pos (enforced by the ESPN site), the minimum number of games is NOT. For minimum games, all measurements are based on total games played without regard for position.
V Trades
All trades during the season must be submitted via the website's offer trade feature to the league for review. If there is a draft pick it needs to be posted in our thread at rotoguru.com and needs to be confirmed by both parties. You might want to rationalize your trade as it takes just 7 members to reject the trade. You have one day to reject it so please check the site at LEAST once per day (many will have the email feature that emails all accepted trades). Remember with a Keeper league there may be draft picks involved so take the time to check those before rejecting it. Please only reject a trade based on the trade and not the teams involved. A trade by its very nature should help both teams either now, the future or both. All off-season/preseason trades will be governed by a commish.
VI Keepers
Returning owners will have a deadline to declare what players from their team they wish to keep. Each owner may keep up to 6.
You may keep less than six. You may trade keepers after you have declared, but you may not go over six until all 20 teams have officially declared at the Keeper deadline. At that point you may go up to 12 players.
If you keep less than six, the only way you can add a sixth keeper is via trade. You may not drop a player until after the draft is complete.
If you do not name your Keepers by the deadline, the commish(s) will choose those for you and they will be final. If you post your Keepers after the deadline but before the commish posts, your Keepers will be honored. Typically, the commish(s) will start figuring out uncommitted Keepers as soon as the deadline has passed.
All un-kept players will go into the draft. A player MUST be in the NBA database in order to be kept.
The only off-season transactions that will be allowed are trades. No free agents may be picked up after the end of the season. Trades of a player for a draft pick are allowed.
VII Prizes
A fine plaque will be engraved and shipped to the winner courtesy of the previous year's winner. The trophy will be yours to proudly display with your other cherished mementos for 1 year. It will be the winner's responsibility to engrave it and ship it to the winner. There will be an added nominal fee to help cover expenses related to the engraving and shipping of the plaque.
A separate cash prize pool has also been established. It is strictly voluntary. Only those who participate will be eligible for this prize. $15 USD entry must be paid by the season opener. The exact method of prize distribution will vary from year to year depending on participation. We focus payouts so it will NOT be winner take all. Six owners will have a chance to win something. Prize pool funds are due by Opening Night.
If any of the non-participants qualify, the prizes will be reallocated by the commissioners. Managers will move up payout position(s) and any remaining funds will go into the trophy fund.
Treasurer will announce payouts and non-participants.
VIII Owners
As commissioners, we reserve the right NOT to extend an invitation to or remove any owner for any reason. Primary reason for being excluded would be abusive behavior (beyond friendly trash talk, harassment), purposeful rules violations (i.e. colluding on a trade), inactivity (i.e. leaving injured players in as starters repeatedly), unresponsive to other owners or commish(s), missing deadlines (i.e. keepers, draft picks, etc.). If an owner is NOT invited back next year. A new owner will be recruited to take over the vacated team in its exact state.
IX 2022 Draft Pick Trades:
# Date - Sends - Round - For - Round
1 2022-03-05 WG 5 WWCBD 6
2 2022-03-01 GO 2 BBtheBall 6
3 2022-02-01 SkinneeJ 3 PermDude 4 (from ttucowboy #7 below)
4 2022-01-13 WG 3 R-Money 6
5 2021-12-04 WWCBD 1 youngroman 6
6 2021-11-02 ttucowboy 2 PermDude 5
7 2021-10-18 ttucowboy 4 PermDude 6
X League Champions:
2003 Peter N
2004 A Perfect 10
2005 Twarpy
2006 RecycledSpinalFluid
2007 beastiemiked
2008 beastiemiked
2009 Ref
2010 Pete N.
2011 Pacers Rule
2012 beastiemiked
2013 Great One
2014 WG
2015 Species
2016 Pete N.
2017 RecycledSpinalFluid
2018 RecycledSpinalFluid
2019 RecycledSpinalFluid
2020 RecycledSpinalFluid
2021 WG
2022 skinneej
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| | | 1 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Wed, Sep 14, 2022, 11:44
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DEMERITS
GP DE Team
534 15 Weekend Over (R-Money)
643 02 PT's Pleasant Team (twolves)
646 02 GO Sixers
652 01 Spida (artofmonk)
STANDINGS
PL PTS TEAM
01 158.0 Skinnee J's
02 150.0 WWCBD
03 148.0 Wazaaap Guy
04 125.0 RSF - Fist Full of Rings
05 119.0 Bean's Buckeyes
06 109.5 Mighty Meatwads
07 109.0 Munson Mobsters
08 108.0 ttucowboy
09 107.0 GO Sixers
10 092.0 Philly Busters
11 088.0 Air Tosh
12 084.0 SANFORDORS
13 078.5 Spida
14 074.0 KnicksFan
15 065.0 Weekend Over
16 061.5 Roto Guru20
17 059.0 BB the Ball
18 056.0 Fred's Team
19 053.5 PT's Pleasant Team
20 045.0 youngroman's Luschen
I'll post a link to the draft Matrix soon.
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| | | 2 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Wed, Sep 14, 2022, 11:54
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PROPOSED SCHEDULE
FRI 30 SEP Team Owners Locked
FRI 07 OCT, 11:59 PM EDT Keeper Deadline
SUN 09 OCT Draft Turned ON
MON 10 OCT Draft Clock ON
TUE 18 OCT Regular Season Starts
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| | | 3 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Wed, Sep 14, 2022, 11:59
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I've renewed the league at Yahoo and will renew at Draft Time when able. I need ALL previous owners to let me know if they are returning. Please do not assume that if you are in Yahoo, I now your plan...SOUND OFF HERE.
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| | | 4 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Wed, Sep 14, 2022, 12:00
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I am in
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| | | 5 | WWCBD - Duff
ID: 37841411
Wed, Sep 14, 2022, 12:04
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I am in, ty
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| | | 6 | skinneej
ID: 73141110
Wed, Sep 14, 2022, 12:06
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I'm in
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| | | 7 | Philly Busters
ID: 311122313
Wed, Sep 14, 2022, 12:21
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I'm in.
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| | | 8 | GO
ID: 27492217
Wed, Sep 14, 2022, 13:26
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I'm back for another run at 2nd place.
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| | | 9 | ttucowboy
ID: 278331412
Wed, Sep 14, 2022, 13:33
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In
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| | | 10 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 45103890
Wed, Sep 14, 2022, 13:41
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I'm in.
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| | | 11 | twolves
ID: 327211910
Wed, Sep 14, 2022, 13:48
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In am in
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| | | 12 | Fosten
ID: 10031913
Wed, Sep 14, 2022, 14:22
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In. And I have a truckload of extra keepers to sell before the deadline. Email me for more details!
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| | | 13 | Bb the Ball
ID: 578371414
Wed, Sep 14, 2022, 15:38
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I’m in
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| | | 14 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Wed, Sep 14, 2022, 21:18
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I'm in
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| | | 15 | R-Money
ID: 32122023
Thu, Sep 15, 2022, 05:59
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in.
Not sure if reading the rules right, but instead of 5th pick I get 14th pick in every round?
Either way, willing to trade multiple picks to move up, and definitely trade for a keeper.
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| | | 16 | WG
ID: 89402220
Thu, Sep 15, 2022, 09:27
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In!
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| | | 17 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Thu, Sep 15, 2022, 10:51
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<15>Yes, your team will draft 14th in rounds 2-6. Draft order for the first round is subject to lottery results.
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| | | 18 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Thu, Sep 15, 2022, 11:35
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So far, 13 of 20 have indicated they are returning. Still awaiting response from:
Mighty Meatwads
Air Tosh
Spida
KnicksFan
Roto Guru20
Fred's Team
youngroman's Luschen
If you know them, ping them.
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| | | 19 | Tosh
Dude
ID: 057721710
Thu, Sep 15, 2022, 13:29
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In
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| | | 20 | youngroman
ID: 515013
Fri, Sep 16, 2022, 04:02
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In
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| | | 21 | Guru
ID: 29629212
Fri, Sep 16, 2022, 13:22
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In.
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| | | 22 | Perm Dude
ID: 71111821
Fri, Sep 16, 2022, 13:26
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In
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| | | 23 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Sat, Sep 17, 2022, 10:15
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So far, 17 of 20 have indicated they are returning. Still awaiting response from:
Mighty Meatwads
Spida (Art of Monk)
KnicksFan
If you know them, ping them.
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| | | 24 | Meatwads
ID: 458281821
Sun, Sep 18, 2022, 22:28
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Apologies for the delay. I've been deep into baseball. I am in.
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| | | 25 | artofmonk
ID: 407421813
Tue, Sep 20, 2022, 11:15
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I am in.
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| | | 26 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Tue, Sep 20, 2022, 12:30
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Just need to hear from Knicksfan now, all others are returning. If you have a way to contact Knicksfan other than his yahoo league e-mail address, please do so.
Meanwhile if you have a friend who may want to take his team, should he become a no show, let me know ASAP. Team lock is scheduled for the end of this month.
If anyone would like to propose a rule change, now would be thee time to do so.
Let the trading begin.
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| | | 27 | KnicksFan
ID: 178502118
Wed, Sep 21, 2022, 19:50
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I’m in!
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| | | 28 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Thu, Sep 22, 2022, 09:24
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Draft Time is set up now. Make sure you still can log on and you should see our draft amongst your active ones.
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| | | 29 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Thu, Sep 22, 2022, 12:14
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Draft Matrix here.
Still needs lottery results inserted for the first round. Also any trades before the draft.
Let me know if you see any issues.
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| | | 30 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Sep 22, 2022, 12:15
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Are the standings posted in [1] already adjusted to reflect the listed demerits, or do the demerits still need to be applied?
I can't find anywhere on the Yahoo site that shows the actual standings at the end of last season.
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| | | 31 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Thu, Sep 22, 2022, 12:16
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Any interest in Harrison Barnes for a pick upgrade?
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| | | 32 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Thu, Sep 22, 2022, 13:22
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<30> Draft Matrix should be correct including demerits and pick trades. There were no ties.
Matrix should just need lottery results applied to round 1. The only round one pick trade involved a non-lottery team.
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| | | 33 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Thu, Sep 22, 2022, 15:12
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I've started a new thread for your keepers. Everyone is required to post their keepers in that thread. You need not mark them in Yahoo, in fact, I will ignore that.
FRI 7 OCT, 11:59 PM EDT - Keeper Deadline
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| | | 34 | WWCBD - Duff
ID: 37841411
Fri, Sep 23, 2022, 00:38
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I'm looking to make a 2f1 or even 3f1 trade with some of these guys to consolidate and/or trade players for pick swaps. If there is any interest let me know.
Fred VanVleet
Jimmy Butler
Rudy Gobert
DeAaron Fox
OG Anunoby
Jaren Jackson
Anfernee Simons
Kyle Lowry
Miles Bridges
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| | | 37 | WWCBD - Duff
ID: 37841411
Thu, Sep 29, 2022, 10:09
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Trade:
Duff (WWCBD) gives:
Jimmy Butler
6th Rounder
Permdude (Fred's Team) gives:
1st rounder
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| | | 38 | Perm Dude
ID: 71111821
Thu, Sep 29, 2022, 10:58
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confirmed
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| | | 39 | WG
ID: 89402220
Thu, Sep 29, 2022, 14:15
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Chris Boucher, F/C + Isaiah Jackson, F/C for one big, anyone? Bigs more value here with the two rebounding categories.
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| | | 40 | GO
ID: 288332716
Thu, Sep 29, 2022, 18:10
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and I'm open to moving the #2 pick overall paired with Ben Simmons and any of my other leftovers for an upgrade.
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| | | 41 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Sat, Oct 01, 2022, 10:13
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One week to go, and we only have 9 of 20 teams who have submitted keepers. Might want to post something now, as insurance from missing the deadline.
Updated Draft Matrix
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| | | 42 | GO
ID: 288332716
Mon, Oct 03, 2022, 15:03
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REMINDER - Keepers Due - Monday, October 17, 2022, as your league's deadline for declaring your keepers.
Or GO's cat picks your keepers for you.
***YOU MUST SELECT THEM ON THE YAHOO WEBSITE -- USING A DESKTOP***
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| | | 43 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Oct 03, 2022, 19:39
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The NBA season starts on Tuesday, Oct 18. How can the keeper deadline be Monday, Oct 17?
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| | | 45 | GO
ID: 34025146
Mon, Oct 03, 2022, 20:55
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Looks like the above we picked....
FRI 7 OCT, 11:59 PM EDT - Keeper Deadline
I just copied whatever note was on the Yahoo keeper selection page.
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| | | 46 | GO
ID: 34025146
Mon, Oct 03, 2022, 20:57
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Changed the yahoo selection deadline...
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| | | 47 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 20:29
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GO,
Thanks for adjusting stuff on Yahoo. Helps for all things to kinda be in synch so people aren't confused.
For everyone, this is what I said in <33> above. Nothing has changed.
I've started a new thread for your keepers. Everyone is required to post their keepers in that thread. You need not mark them in Yahoo, in fact, I will ignore that.
FRI 7 OCT, 11:59 PM EDT - Keeper Deadline
You may get a notice that keepers are closed on Yahoo before the deadline. Please ignore that. It is happening because I dont wait until the deadline to start entering stuff in Yahoo.
Thanks for your support.
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| | | 48 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Wed, Oct 05, 2022, 13:13
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FRI 7 OCT, 11:59 PM EDT - Keeper Deadline
With less than three days left before the deadline, we only have 12 of 20 managers who have posted their keepers in the keeper thread. I still need keepers from the following:
Skinnee J's
Wazaaap Guy
Mighty Meatwads
Munson Mobsters
SANFORDORS
Weekend Over
PT's Pleasant Team
youngroman's Luschen
Let's get this done guys. If you don't choose, I choose for you, and I suck.
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| | | 49 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Thu, Oct 06, 2022, 09:43
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FRI 7 OCT, 11:59 PM EDT - Keeper Deadline
With less than two days left before the deadline, we only have 14 of 20 managers who have posted their keepers in the keeper thread. I still need keepers from the following:
Wazaaap Guy
Mighty Meatwads
Munson Mobsters
SANFORDORS
Weekend Over
PT's Pleasant Team
Let's get this done guys. If you don't choose, I choose for you, and I suck.
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| | | 51 | Skinneej
ID: 34911617
Thu, Oct 06, 2022, 18:12
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I’ve had some ongoing discussions, but only looking to break up my core 6 for a significant upgrade to acquire a top 20 type player. I can package Derozan, Siakam, Myles Turner, and/or Mo Bamba in a 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 scenario if the deal is for the right player.
Also willing to deal Bamba or Okongwu for a pick swap if u need a final keeper.
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| | | 54 | Fosten
ID: 10031913
Thu, Oct 06, 2022, 19:16
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Fosten's Amazing Unbelievable 29-hour Clearance Sale
Attention hoops fans! Our store manager has put up the wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube men. The warehouse workers are blasting music over the loudspeakers. There is a guy in a chicken suit twirling a sign in the parking lot. And yours truly, Fosten, will be burning the midnight oil, right up until 11:59pm Friday night, with crazy deals and insane prices.
My last keeper:
G/F Devin Vassell, SAS
My top cuts:
F Franz Wagner, ORL
F Tobias Harris, LAC
G Caris LeVert, BKN
G Davion Mitchell, SAC
F/C Alexsej Pokusevski, OKC
G Russell Westbrook, OKC
C Goga Bitadze, IND
Email me today to receive the best players on the trade market! We are open for all your g20 keeper deadline needs!
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| | | 55 | WWCBD - Duff
ID: 37841411
Thu, Oct 06, 2022, 22:18
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Trade:
WWCBD gives:
Rudy Gobert
2023 4th Round Pick
SANFORDORS gives:
Gary Trent Jr.
2023 1st Round Pick
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| | | 56 | Dave R
ID: 568551821
Thu, Oct 06, 2022, 22:19
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confirmed
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| | | 57 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Fri, Oct 07, 2022, 10:43
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FRI 7 OCT, 11:59 PM EDT - Keeper Deadline
With less than 24 hours left before the deadline, we still have 3 of 20 managers who have not posted their keepers in the keeper thread. I still need keepers from the following:
Mighty Meatwads
Weekend Over
PT's Pleasant Team
Let's get this done guys. If you don't choose, I choose for you, and I suck.
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| | | 58 | WWCBD - Duff
ID: 37841411
Fri, Oct 07, 2022, 19:18
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TRADE:
WWCBD gives:
Lowry
5th rounder (18th pick)
Weekend Over gives:
3rd rounder (15th pick)
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| | | 59 | R-Money wknd ovr
ID: 32122023
Fri, Oct 07, 2022, 19:24
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Confirm
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| | | 60 | artofmonk
ID: 50940718
Fri, Oct 07, 2022, 19:40
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art trades 2nd pick to
Fosten for
F Franz Wagner, ORL and 5th rd pick.
Move Wagner to Keeper and remove A. Gordon.
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| | | 61 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Fri, Oct 07, 2022, 20:06
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Guys,
If you have had a last second trade that has resulted in changing YOUR keepers, then repost YOUR keepers in THE KEEPER THREAD. Don't depend on me to make sense out of what you have done. I am simply not that smart.
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| | | 62 | Fosten
ID: 10031913
Fri, Oct 07, 2022, 23:37
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Confirm 60
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| | | 63 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Sat, Oct 08, 2022, 12:40
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I have started the draft. Please check to make sure I have entered your keepers and draft picks in Draft Time correctly, and notify me ASAP to minimize the impact. Easiest way to do that is to look at all picks and sort on manager.
You may make your picks and load queues now. There is no clock until Monday morning, but proper etiquette is to pick within four hours of when it becomes your turn. There will be a few that don't adhere to the norms for whatever reason, please be patient.
I'll be double checking the entries of players in Yahoo, so in a few hours you should be able to use the Yahoo players list to help you decide who to draft. I'll try to enter players in Yahoo as they are drafted in Draft Time. That should keep the Yahoo players list a useful (but not perfect) tool for you throughout the draft.
Good Luck
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| | | 64 | WG
ID: 89402220
Sat, Oct 08, 2022, 12:44
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Thanks Bean. Before any issues arise, though he didn't update the keeper list I'm guessing PD meant to keep Jimmy Butler who he traded the 1.01 for, in lieu of Brook Lopez probably? Or Gordon Hayward?
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| | | 65 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Sat, Oct 08, 2022, 12:53
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Yeah that would make sense WG, thanks. What I will do for him is remove the guy with the lowest Yahoo rating (Lopez), and replace him with Butler. I'll pause the draft for now.
Give me a few minutes everyone.
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| | | 66 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Sat, Oct 08, 2022, 13:32
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Hoping Fred at Draft Time can reset the draft and allow me to swap keepers. If not, I can remove Butler from the draft and if someone wants to draft Brook Lopez, they'll need to let me know. Meanwhile, we are all at a stand still, while I wait to hear from Fred.
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| | | 67 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Sat, Oct 08, 2022, 14:57
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Draft has been restarted, Swapped Lopez for Butler as keepers. I think its all good now. GO is up.
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| | | 68 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Sat, Oct 08, 2022, 17:43
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Hopefully Yahoo has everything entered correctly up to pick 1.02 now. Let me know if you see a mistake.
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| | | 69 | WWCBD - Duff
ID: 37841411
Sat, Oct 08, 2022, 18:00
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I believe I should still have my 4th rounder this year and WeekendOver should have my 5.18 pick this year.
I traded my 2023 fourth rounder, not this year's.
2 trades:
Lowry
2022 5th rounder (18th pick)
Weekend Over gives:
2022 3rd rounder
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WWCBD gives:
Rudy Gobert
2023 4th Round Pick
SANFORDORS gives:
Gary Trent Jr.
2023 1st Round Pick
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| | | 70 | WWCBD - Duff
ID: 37841411
Sat, Oct 08, 2022, 18:04
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Based on the "all picks" screen I don't have a 4th and the 5.18 is still under my name. Thanks Bean
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| | | 71 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Sat, Oct 08, 2022, 19:28
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<69> Yeah, guess I missed the 2023 thing in <55> above. That should be an easy fix.
Not sure how I messed up <58>, but I think its right now.
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| | | 72 | artofmonk
ID: 50940718
Sat, Oct 08, 2022, 20:34
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bean thanks for reposting my keepers. just getting back online.
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| | | 73 | WWCBD - Duff
ID: 37841411
Sun, Oct 09, 2022, 17:07
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If anyone in the first round is looking to trade back for additional picks, I'm up for dealing the 2.19 and 3.14 for your pick.
Ask yourself, what would Bill Belichick do?
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| | | 74 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Mon, Oct 10, 2022, 10:38
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Clock is on. Four hour limit. Daily pause is 12 am ET - 8 am ET.
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| | | 75 | artofmonk
ID: 407421813
Mon, Oct 10, 2022, 11:39
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Bean, thank you for keeping this league going. Draft is moving at a good pace.
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| | | 76 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Mon, Oct 10, 2022, 12:14
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I have my cattle prod at my side throughout Morgan. Seems to be working pretty good.
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| | | 77 | GO
ID: 288332716
Mon, Oct 10, 2022, 13:34
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So the things I meant to bring up and didn't have time from last year were... a second IL slot and the demerits.
So I suppose they could be for next year if people feel strongly. But I think the demerits could be immediate at least.
In G20 baseball if you finish in the $$$ demerits aren't applied so that seems fair.
Do we have that rule here? I also feel like something being Top 5 in moves made should make you exempt. Cause you are obviously trying.
And a second IL slot... currently we have one IL and it can be used for anything? maybe just making it keeper specific but having more of them would solve it.
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| | | 78 | GO
ID: 288332716
Mon, Oct 10, 2022, 13:37
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and to your point Bean, I know we don't want to monitor who is in the IL slots... we just have a gentlemen's agreement in baseball, and everyone just keeps an eye out and self-reports. I don't think a formal review of the slots need to be conducted. Hasn't been an issue yet.
Or we just keep it wide open IL for whatever player you want... but I think even in that several noted maybe we need a second slot with the way injuries have gone lately (and illness).
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| | | 79 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Mon, Oct 10, 2022, 14:27
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GO, You know how I feel about self policing and "keeper" only rules.
Sometime back you agreed to be the keeper of the constitution. I'll leave it to you to get folks to talk about this, and, if you get enough who have thoughts on it, put it to a vote.
So, you are in the drivers seat, have at it.
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| | | 80 | GO
ID: 288332716
Mon, Oct 10, 2022, 14:48
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I fully agree we don't want to be monitoring anything for violations.
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| | | 81 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Oct 10, 2022, 15:33
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From the Treasurer:
(also sent via email to all managers via Yahoo)
Prize pool dues for the coming season are $15. There is no assessment for a trophy fund again this year, as that continues to be amply funded.
As background, we have an optional prize pool. All participating managers contribute $15 at the start of the season, and the pool is distributed at the end to the top six finishers. The actual award amounts are subject to the total amount in the pool, but generally range from about $90-$100 to the winner down to $15 for the #6 team.
New managers do not need to opt into the pool in their first year. But by the second year, they must decide to be in or out. Once you opt in, you must remain in the pool each year to continue in the pool. If you should ever opt out after the first year, then you can never opt back in.
Three managers have opted out: Perm Dude, BB the Ball, and ArtofMonk.
Eight managers have sufficient funds on account to cover the dues for 2022:
Bean, RSF, GO, Tosh, Meatwad, WWCBD, WG, and Skinneej.
Everyone else owes $15, according to my records. If you think I have missed any funds on account for you, please let me know.
Payments can be sent in any of the following ways:
1. Paypal: please send to davehall@rotoguru.net. (note: this is not my usual email address.) Designate this as “send money to friends and family”, and mark the payment only as "G20 hoops". Do not say "prize" or "pool". Those words are red flags for Paypal.
2. Snail mail: check can be sent to the address listed at the bottom of this page:
http://rotoguru2.com/gurupatron-info.html
3. I can also accept payment via Venmo. If this is your preference, let me know
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| | | 82 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 379401317
Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 18:40
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WWCBD - Duff starting the Wembanyama tanking HARD!
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| | | 83 | WWCBD - Duff
ID: 37841411
Thu, Oct 13, 2022, 22:57
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You know it!
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| | | 84 | artofmonk
ID: 407421813
Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 13:40
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the draft moved well, but it is still very hard to improve your team. I feel I am going to be stuck in the bottom half again. I wouldn't mind a 2nd IL spot as well. I like the demerit system. Best of luck
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| | | 85 | GO
ID: 288332716
Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 13:57
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Vote for 2023
1 - Extra IL slot added -- with no restrictions on who can be in it? YES/NO
I see above we already waive demerits for teams in the money.
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| | | 86 | WWCBD - Duff
ID: 37841411
Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 14:12
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I'm good with a second IL spot.
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| | | 87 | artofmonk
ID: 407421813
Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 14:25
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2nd IL spot
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| | | 88 | Philly Busters
ID: 311122313
Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 14:43
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yes on 2nd IL slot
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| | | 89 | WG
ID: 89402220
Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 14:56
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Yes.
Clarification sought, is the current IL for all or only keepers (like G20 baseball). Thought the former but since GO raised it for the second IL, thought I'd ask.
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| | | 90 | GO
ID: 288332716
Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 15:57
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No restrictions... anyone who is IL eligible per Yahoo guidelines.
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| | | 91 | Skinneej
ID: 199141415
Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 16:14
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Prefer to keep 1 IL spot with no restrictions. Keep it simple, no need to monitor or deal with keeper restrictions
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| | | 92 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 16:22
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Draft is done, your players are loaded to your teams. All undrafted are now on waivers, and the waiver priority has been set.
If you see any errors, let me know ASAP.
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| | | 93 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 16:47
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Meatwads is looking to find someone to take over his team. He'll manage the team until we find a replacement.
If you know someone who might be interested, please let me know. Simplest thing is to have him/her send me an e-mail mentioning you as a referral. beancline@comcast.net or the blue link.
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| | | 94 | Tosh
Dude
ID: 057721710
Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 17:29
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yes on 2nd IL slot
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| | | 95 | Perm Dude
ID: 71111821
Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 18:38
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I vote *No* on second IL slot.
Normally I like that but this is a large league and adding a second slot weakens the FA pool even more.
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| | | 96 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 21:26
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I am fine with adding a second IL lot.
While I understand PD's concern in [95], we have had a number of teams with multiple players on IL, making it difficult to achieve GP targets. I don't think adding one extra IL slot weakens the pool that substantially.
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| | | 97 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 21:51
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I vote yes on 2 IL.
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| | | 98 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 45103890
Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 01:27
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<84> artofmonk: I agree. Having gone from the top to the bottom back to the top, it's a slow process (frankly I enjoyed it, but I may be demented, and flat-out lucky to hit on Giannis.). I think the only way to get around it would be to drastically reduce keepers. 4...3...??? 3 might be too drastic. Someone shouldn't be penalized because they dig up nuggets. Maybe also have a "young keeper" where they are 3rd year or less? Dunno. Spit balling. I know we've tossed this stuff out there before.
As for 2nd IL. I'm no. Way too thin a FA market as is. Takes the fun of mining for scrubs, if the scrubs are already taken.
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| | | 99 | ttucowboy
ID: 21933157
Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 08:33
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No to 2nd IL slot since it wouldn’t be keeper specific.
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| | | 100 | bb The Ball
ID: 598491420
Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 16:56
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No on the 2nd IL slot for me-- thanks and good luck all!!
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| | | 101 | Fosten
ID: 129491521
Sat, Oct 15, 2022, 22:49
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Yes on the second IL spot
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| | | 102 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Sun, Oct 16, 2022, 18:25
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Meatwads team going to Tree
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| | | 103 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 45103890
Sun, Oct 16, 2022, 19:52
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Tree paying the $4,000,000,000 franchise (reentry) fee?
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| | | 104 | Tree
ID: 4741579
Sun, Oct 16, 2022, 19:56
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happy to be here! thanks for having me.
Also, i was told some dude....RSF or something....was paying that 4 billion dollar fee..so lemme know, and i'll get him my routing number.
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| | | 105 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Oct 17, 2022, 10:31
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Tree - see post 81 regarding the prize pool in this league. It works similarly to the one in G20 Baseball.
As new league member, you have two options for this season:
1) Pay $15 and join the pool this year, or
2) Skip this year, and defer your option to join the pool until next year.
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| | | 106 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Mon, Oct 17, 2022, 10:44
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Heads up,
WG let me know that I did the waiver priority wrong. I put them in exactly the reverse order that I should have.
Its fixed now, but Tosh won Okoro through waivers. If you also bid for Okoro, let me know, and I will see if you would have won the bid and fix it. You'll need to let me know who you would drop. You have two days. Meanwhile, I am leaving Okoro on his roster.
Sorry bout this.
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| | | 107 | GO
ID: 288332716
Mon, Oct 17, 2022, 10:49
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That is an easy one to miss, done it before myself on these offline manual drafts.
Thank you for all the hard work Bean and to the league (WG in this instance) as a whole for helping keep an eye out for these things.
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| | | 108 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Mon, Oct 17, 2022, 11:01
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Update,
WG told me that the Waiver Offers tab under Recent Transactions would have had an entry if the claim on Okoro had been challenged. I looked at one of my baseball teams, and it seems to work as he describes.
There was no entry in G20 Hoops Waiver Offers. Therefore, it would seem that Tosh's waiver claim was unchallenged.
I'm thinking we need to get WG to commish next year.
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| | | 109 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Oct 17, 2022, 19:09
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[81] I'm still awaiting $15 prize pool payments from:
KnicksFan
twolves
R-Money Weekend Over
Payment is due by the start of the season (i.e., tomorrow). If you have a check in the mail, please let me know.
Guru
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| | | 110 | KnicksFan
ID: 23926189
Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 10:26
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Payment sent to Guru
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| | | 111 | KnicksFan
ID: 23926189
Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 10:28
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Yes on 2 IL
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| | | 112 | GO
ID: 288332716
Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 15:40
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Summary so far...
9 YES to a second IL slot next season
3 NO to a second IL slot next season
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| | | 113 | skinneej
ID: 73141110
Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 17:13
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I was a NO on 91 on 2nd IL, and then I count 4 more (95, 98-100) so think it is 9 YES and 5 NO currently (assuming 87 is a YES since it was not clarified).
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| | | 114 | youngroman
ID: 515013
Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 17:14
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no to 2nd IL slot
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| | | 115 | GO
ID: 288332716
Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 17:27
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Adding me in as a Yes to 2nd slot... its 10 YES, 5 NO
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| | | 116 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 23:28
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[109] All prize pool dues have now been received. Let the games begin!
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| | | 117 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Oct 20, 2022, 11:54
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I wonder if dropping from 1st to 19th place in one day is a record free-fall?
Admittedly, my first place standing after the first day was solely due to having more GP that day than anyone else.
Still, it was fun to be on top of the standings for a day - even though I'll never be there again all season.
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| | | 118 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 45103890
Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 02:17
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Woah woah woah...pump the brakes. No need to declare me the champion already.
Wait, that's just me talking aloud.
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| | | 119 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 13:46
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<115> Doesn't seem to be anything in the Constitution, but I would think simple majority, or 11 YES votes would be required to pass this.
Have you reached out to the 5 owners who have not voted yet?
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| | | 120 | R-Money
ID: 32122023
Fri, Oct 21, 2022, 14:52
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Yes Second IL spot.
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| | | 121 | artofmonk
ID: 59222410
Mon, Oct 24, 2022, 11:22
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yes to the 2nd IL spot
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| | | 122 | GO
ID: 288332716
Mon, Oct 24, 2022, 11:25
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That puts us up to 12, so i'd say that about does it.
2023 we'll add a 2nd IL slot
Now I need a way to remember to add the damn thing lol...
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| | | 123 | Bean
ID: 12552510
Mon, Oct 24, 2022, 13:36
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This thread is now closed. Please move your conversations to the Regular Season thread now.
You'll note I have edited the Constitution in that thread. Specifically paragraphs III and IX, reflecting the increase in IL slots for next year, and the pick trades for year respectively.
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